Looper | Meeting Abe

[@JBoy551]

"Your expecting for us to break your fingers with a hammer, something awful.....thats not gonna happen" The Hammer is right on the table lolol

[@WerZiger67]

You're/You are. And that's why you go to school kids

[@jayhache5609]

@@WerZiger67*…school, kids.

[@rat_boy_u]

Joseph Gordon Levitt really did an excellent job, he even did a decent job making the facial expressions Bruce Willis uses.

[@mourad505]

"I'll show you how much I know you. I'm not even gonna break you, I'm just gonna set you back aways..." That line always stuck with, even years after seeing this movie. Something so cold about that line and how Jeff Daniels delivers it.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

I don't understand how this movie just came and went... barely a blip. It's so under-rated. JGL did a *fine* job in this film... the script was good, the cast was good, the *story* was good. There are literally no downsides.

[@DuckSmokezQuack]

the nonsensicle and poorly thought out use of timetravel was pretty tough to swallow ... I would say thats a pretty massive downside The directors saying "lol its not about the timetravel" seems to fundamentally misunderstand the premise of his ow film

[@TROOPERfarcry]

@@DuckSmokezQuack How was it poorly thought out? They sent people back. That's it. Are you critical of the execution? Meaning, were you displeased with the appearance of the time-machines, or the special-effects surrounding their use? Or the lack of an explanation? The story wasn't about time-travel, though that's obviously a component of the story. Much like how Benjamin Button never explains _WHY_ it's happening, that's not the point -- in Looper, time-travel provided a context, but the protagonist didn't have access to use it, and therefore it was merely a framework in the story, and not an interactable object. What would you have done differently if you were in charge of the film?

[@DuckSmokezQuack]

@@TROOPERfarcry they couldn't make up their mind on which flavour of travel they wanted They tried to have it both ways and it was jarring

[@TROOPERfarcry]

@@DuckSmokezQuack I don't know what you're talking about. There's no reason to continue to have dialogue, because you're not good at communicating. I'd be meeting you waaay over half-way, and not getting anything out of the effort.

[@DuckSmokezQuack]

@@TROOPERfarcry didn't ask

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

I love how Joe does a call back to Abe's "so I changed it"

[@torrijosisnice5750]

The entire ending is a call back... He could see the bad version of the kid angry and alone... the bad path

[@kikoitanhas]

It took me time to notice that in the end Joe repeats exactly Abe's words before killing himself and changing his whole loop

[@alexshank1414]

I noticed that too. Abe saying the “Bad version of your life. Like a vision.”

[@ptit-monsieur]

Looper was one of those movies I didn't expect and yet I desperately needed it

[@ryannarby4519]

I love Jeff Daniels in everything.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

This is Abe being reasonable. Nothing gets someone to do what you want faster than threatening their money.

[@punkhop23]

"they can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with, some men just want to watch the world burn."

[@earthwormjim]

Since Seth was hiding where the money was stashed, there was no scenario where Seth wasn't found. Protect Seth, then he is discovered when they seize the money.

[@charlesku4308]

The best part about Looper came in an interview with the writer and director who said that Kid Blue IS Abe...blows your mind.

[@J_C_CH]

You can't blame Joe too much for having to give up Seth. Remember, he hid Seth inside the floor safe, which is where Joe was keeping his stash of silver. Even if he chose to protect Seth, they'd almost certainly find him when they went to take half his silver away. So Joe wouldn't just lose his silver, but Seth would've been caught anyway.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

And Abe almost certainly had a general idea of where Joe has hidden Seth. When he's telling Joe that he can either give up Seth or half his silver, he's actually not giving Joe _any_ choice at all. Joe can't give up his silver and simultaneously protect Seth because Seth is hiding in the floor safe. If he tries that option, the Gat Men will either go with him to retrieve it or go by themselves, find Seth anyways, and Joe will get punished as well.

[@JaquzziJones]

Abe being future kid blue is something I fuck with. Who the fuck doesn’t get pissed off thinking about their past self?

[@dirtybattle3982]

Why would he smash his own hand tho

[@what_do_i_put_here_]

@@dirtybattle3982 Because he got his hand smashed by Abe 30 years ago, duh

[@gachapinCUEVA]

​@@dirtybattle3982 wouldn't blame him for beating the crap out of your younger self

[@gachapinCUEVA]

​@dirtybattle3982 you'd definitely beat the crap out of your younger self if you ever met them. It's basically saying, "good God, how did I make it that far in life"

[@TheRandomman1999]

Abe is smart kid blue is a dumbass

[@bozotheclown1142]

Being from the future seems a bit overpowered, I'm sure Abe could've made a killing with sports betting.

[@eurosalamander]

"Why the fuck French?" "I'm going to France. "You should go to China." "I'm going to France." "I'm from the future. You should go to China." There really isn't a good way to argue that last part.

[@LJJ-xw8lh]

The irony is that he did end up going to China.

[@J_C_CH]

Well it gets you thinking and makes you paranoid. You'd be thinking "what the hell happens to France in the next 30 years?" If a man from the future told you to avoid going somewhere, I think we'd all listen to him.

[@Csetnikke]

Aaand that's how the troubles started

[@sarcasmenul]

@@J_C_CH what the hell happens to France in the next 30 years? well latest reports indicate that most of western france is going to lack drinking water very soon, the south burns every summer. Mountains are literally crumbling appart because global warming is making them too fragile. So the unspoken here is that unstable climate creates social tension and the government eventually breaks down because western governments are incapable of changing anything, they just serve billionaires. No government means lawless wasteland, so yeah.

[@worm3654]

@@LJJ-xw8lh he listened and it set him on the shit path

[@Arbron]

Poor Joe really didn't have much choice in the matter, and I think Abe saw through that.

[@quadog9019]

Even if he agreed to be taxed and have half of his stashed bars taken, they would have found Seth anyway because he was locked in the safe hiding. The Gat Men would've opened it regardless, so Joe could either keep the money or lose it - Seth was a dead man either way.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

Loopers don't really have much common sense.

[@VenturiLife]

Abe knew the future and how to get exactly what he wanted from Joe.

[@mbaxter22]

I just want to see a movie about Abe’s life.

[@gamepoy5056]

Just look at Kid Blue, he's theorized to be the younger version of Abe!

[@T-800..]

"Im going to France" "You should go to China" "I'm going to France" "I'm from the future.. you should go to China"

[@Jack-yx5wf]

I love that you can see Jeff Daniels look completely flummoxed by the correction of him learning French instead of Mandarin, for just a split second, but he rolls with it for the sake of his pre-written monologue that he assumes/knows Joe will falter to. And also the minute Abe knows he's thrown Joe he throws in a haymaker about "Why French?" because it's not what he knows, it's about what he didn't anticipate. Which as someone from the future who has had the luxury of using that knowledge for his benefit, is probably a bit of a wild card a la "Is this going to lead to something I can't anticipate?" Which ironically it does, just not from that particular point in time. Like he said, it fries your brain like an egg

[@scottwall8419]

He acting like Bruce Willis of the future. Not himself before he becomes that. Brilliant

[@ct0760]

Im from the future. You should go to China That line just made me laugh and oddly enough its my favorite exchange in the film

[@torrijosisnice5750]

I have this theory about the movie that the TKs and The Rainmaker are the universe's way to correct the mess people from the future make... And in this scene we see exactly that... Abe was sent to just manage the loopers, instead he gets the gats and becomes the city's boss... That creates a ripple... In Bruce Willis' loop we see he did go to France at first... But in Abe's memory (our current looper's future) he went to china... And immediately Abe's is trying to correct Joe to go to china because he doesn't understand the changes he's introduced. All in all gangsters from the future mess everything up and the universe, loop after loop, creates TKs and the rainmaker to clean up all the time traveler's (which happens in the end with Bruce Willis).

[@marcoamadori4414]

What do you mean can you explain better?young bruce willis he is shown to go to China not france

[@danalexander2149]

Abe already knew where Seth was, which is why he threatened to take Joe’s stash.

[@thesilentknight4554]

He gave up the riddlers secret hiding spot. Ultimate score. Never have to find those damn trophies😊

[@marklipson]

One of the best scenes. I love the way it's written and think Jeff Daniels is the best. That scene just cooks along, like the best old noir dialogue...lived-in.

[@mikeyjohnson5888]

I was hoping so much the novice looper was actually gonna turn out to be Abe

[@editingbasket9728]

It is hinted so bad, but sometimes the final proof is not given.

[@kjk4795]

Which novice looper ?

[@rebootxd6012]

@@kjk4795 I think he means the gat-man who almost shot his foot

[@spaea2062]

When Abe talks about his great grandfather I realized I'm probably the same age as his great grandfather 😂

[@danielhoang289]

True, because present-day Abe is actually 30 years younger than in this scene. So his great-grandfather is also 30 years younger then

[@jimsheppard3166]

Jesus, Levitt channeled his inner Bruce Willis to a tee. 👏

[@VenturiLife]

You can see the moment when he realizes it's futile, remembers that Abe KNOWS the future, and already knows exactly how this will play out.

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

And just in general, Abe is actually giving Joe _zero_ choice in the matter given that Joe can't give up his silver and protect Seth since Seth is hiding in the floor safe.

[@wallymarx1]

@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 makes me think Abe knew he was in the floor safe but just forgot the code

[@Rack44-p4p]

What does that mean? "Men are like spiders. It's the little ones you have to be careful of?"

[@JacktheSmack]

It means the sneaky ones, not the big lumbering ones, are the ones that can cause the most harm to you.

[@gamepoy5056]

Huh. I remember thinking that Bruce Willis makeup was kinda distracting. Having not watched this movie in a while I'm now surprised it's held up surprisingly well. Not that this movie was poorly recieved but I can totally see it getting a big resurgence in the same veign as Blade Runner. It really has a cult classic vibe to it.

[@TheOuroboros84]

I watched it yesterday. I liked the movie somehwat when I watched it a few years ago....I liked it more this time around. It grows on you.

[@MexxProtect]

It’s a good movie but it’s lacking the poetic quality and depth of a blade runner to become a cult classic in my opinion

[@Arany-Csillag]

As long as star wars fans don't remember it for another few years it'll be fine. (They'll flame literally anything made by Rian Johnson)

[@randyangel9412]

Yeah Fr

[@larrygilbert7273]

I think he's trying to mimic Bruce Willis's facial expressions, but he looks more like he's doing a De Niro impression.

[@kie_1seven348]

Jeff Daniels in this role was 100% a great idea

[@devilfacedjedi]

Not enough is made of Gordon Levitts “Bruce Willis” in the acting of this movie. It really could be Bruce in youth cgi at times.

[@cap10kb94]

His look when the gun is drawn on him is spot on Bruce

[@Ybarra117]

Fr. Very underrated!

[@dummymuffet]

It’s strange because we’re not watching the main timeline unfold. In this scene you can clearly tell that we’re watching the alternate timeline unfold that was caused by making the rainmaker. His future self went back in time, which was the main time line we hear about in the intro, where he says no loose ends and how the rainmaker came to be. His future self goes back in time and kills the child’s mother who we figure out is the rainmaker from putting facts together, which ends up making the rainmaker who he is in the future. Thus causing an alternate timeline, the one we are watching. That’s why everyone is confused as to why he is learning French and not Mandarin. We see the main timeline in snippets of how Bruce Willis came back in time to change things to save his wife. But the time loop got so convoluted by being a time loop, it caused a tangent. The person in the loop figured out they were in a loop before the loop could have began in the future. Which is why he ended the loop before it could’ve began. Damn good movie when you use your brain and watch it a few times. Solid 9 out of 10

[@sammencia7945]

5:50 "Call the doc." Yikes

[@loksolidsnake]

JGL did a very good job in that movie to playing Bruce Willis.

[@phantom21ize]

If a man from the future came back and lived here as long as Abe did and changed things so drastically, the mob he works for in the future probably wouldn’t exist anymore.

[@MsDragonbal776]

Or abe is a part of an ongoing cycle and it was necessary for him yo be there to begin with

[@sarcasmenul]

@@MsDragonbal776 boot strap paradox, Abe and his actions no longer have an origin.

[@Indrid__Cold]

"Time travel shit just fries your brain like an egg"

[@Indrid__Cold]

3:10 There's a scene where Joe/Seth nearly run over a kid, which is the spitting image of how Abe describes Joe when they bring him in for rolling the watch shop. It doesn't come into play, but it's another resonance in a move that is chock full of ressonences.

[@impersonal6650]

While it's not obvious, but Abe must've been really fucking smart. Although he is from the future, he had to build the whole operation alone. And the fact that they couldn't find Joe and eventually died from him, is ridiculous.

[@Spoopball]

If you send Albert Einstein back to live with the Roman's, there's barely nothing he could do that someone else at that time couldn't. You're limited by the resources of your time.

[@timewa851]

@@Spoopball Einstein's theories got proven one by one, after he hypothesized them. He could do that in ancient Rome, but the papyrus or velum would've been written over & perhaps lost.

[@Ocyla]

It's also ridiculous they played Kid Blue as a bumbler especially if you add the removed scenes. He locates old Joe when apparently no one else could, the first time. He gets his hand crushed once, crushed a second time, but still does a headshot from on his back when he's about to be killed (deleted scene). Tricks a cop by fast drawing the cops weapon before the cop himself can grab it (deletde scene). Catches old Joe a second time. Its really something that he's considered the dumb one 😆

[@duyvan247]

I think Abe is, "was" to be exact, the dude who likes spinning the revolver

[@Indrid__Cold]

The first half of the movie was incredibly captivating and engaging. I was so impressed that I paused it at the 15-minute mark and called my wife to watch it with me. It felt like discovering a hidden treasure, similar to finding $20 in the dryer when you're a child. However, the second half of the movie was unfortunately quite disappointing. It was like finding a $20 bill on the sidewalk, only to realize it's just a cheap car wash flyer when you get home.

[@joshuacarrier6388]

My boss plans to kill me in 30 years, I should tell him where I'm going so he can find me easier when the time comes.

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

Calling them “cravats” because the word “tie” is completely out of use is so cool

[@Watcher4111]

Krawat is tie in polish

[@peppermintfreak]

​@@Watcher4111the word kravat comes from the french word for a croat , more specifically hrvat, because way back when croatian soldiers wore neckerchiefs as part of their uniform which the french thought was stylish enough to adopt to their fashion and name it after them

[@wrmusic8736]

"I'm from the future - you should go to China" - that will age like a fine milk in a few years.

[@MozTS]

Lmao you kidding

[@CherryBomb_Games]

.... it's a movie

[@NikolayMIA]

Definitely better than staying in US lmao

[@wrmusic8736]

@@NikolayMIA average salary in China is $1000. Making $12000 a year sounds like an American dream alright.

[@wut3358]

​@@NikolayMIAHave you ever been tested for learning disabilities?

[@galletaazul6674]

Dont go to China, Im from the future!

[@GoldenTV3]

I wonder if anyone noticed this, but as he says "we're not going to break your fingers with a hammer" there is literally a top half of a hammer poking out from under some papers. I think if he didn't give him up, he would've, and taken the money.

[@zacharysheetz3701]

Future-man tells him to go to China. Apparently not this far into the future.

[@0megacron]

It's weird that Gordon-Levitt's impression of Bruce is somehow totally accurate... and yet not accurate at all. It's like that CGI teenage Jack Sparrow in PotC 5 - it looks nothing like a young Johnny Depp, yet looks exactly like a young Jack Sparrow.

[@devyn4048]

I fucking love this scene

[@DG9-q6f]

During my first viewing, I didn't catch how the "so I changed it" part of the dialogue rhymes with the final protagonist monologue.

[@GustavoRamirez-u1p]

This is abe hes from the future

[@Saberblast58]

Wow, the blue kid didn't know that the door is opened outward. And he almost shoot his own foot just like Joe and Abe said

[@KS-xk2so]

I could see the bad path of your life laid out........ so I changed it. I've seen this movie a few times... never caught that this was first said here by Abe before its repeated by JGL at the end.

[@J_GoTTi]

*”So i changed it…”*

[@ScottGalpin-u9z]

Imagine that..time traveling mob by sses.

[@tobiasjung7591]

5:00 epic: - Why the fuck french? - I'm going to France. - You should go to China. - Going to France. - I'm from the future. You should go to China.

[@magazineretriever9036]

Looper came out in 2012. So, it’s interesting that the main character had been arrested for stealing from a “watch shop” in the 2030s, because in 2014 the movie _The Intership_ is about two watch salesmen who lose their jobs because few people buy wristwatches anymore. 😆

[@Morfe02]

Abe say Mandarin and China M F he knows 😂😂

[@drwombat]

Abe's talk about putting him on... I don't understand if that was supposed to mean that happened in the past or if he robbed the watch store in the future and Abe changed that by putting him on? (I guess with the way time travel works in this film it could be both)

[@sammencia7945]

4:00 Bars on screen appear to be 100 oz. 3000 USD in 2024. Each.

[@antonios.1894]

His fumbling is a cause for concern, right?

[@EchoRhythmMusic]

McClain!!!!!!!

[@DanielWhite-v4e]

crustacean effects opposite one of my predecessors

[@devinthierault]

You know im pretty sure Abe being from the future he could still be the kid and just have repaired his feet.

[@qghjuy]

why does JGL look like a lesser version of himself?

[@Arkalius80]

They added some makeup to make him resemble Bruce Willis more, since Bruce plays the older version of this character.

[@sNNNNNable]

@@Arkalius80 They shoulda just left it alone. It's got this weird uncanny valley vibe

[@MOTM1234]

@@Arkalius80 it's not make up - it is CGI overlayed on his face - it really is annoying and I would have preferred JGL's regaular face.

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

​@@MOTM1234i think it's pretty cool

[@banele777]

what is the song in the background?

[@Priv007]

Couldn’t he give half his silver and then take Seth half to make his money back?

[@breezywriter6572]

The cgi in this movie must have been done by the same company that did Superman’s upper lip in Justice League.

[@Arany-Csillag]

What CGI?

[@breezywriter6572]

@@Arany-Csillag That’s not Joseph Gordon Levitt’s real face at the bottom. I don’t even think that’s his actual nose. I’d say from the nose down is cgi. They wanted to make Levitt look more like Bruce Willis. So, they combined the two actor’s facial features together to try and make that happen. But really all it did was make Levitt’s face look all weird and fake, just like Superman’s upper lip in the theatrical version of Justice League, which happened cause Henry Cavill wasn’t allowed to shave his mustache to reprise his role as Superman. They had to cgi it off and it looked sooooooooooooooo bad. 🍻

[@imanoldurango8213]

@@breezywriter6572you’re delusional if you think this is bad at all.

[@orlandoalessandrini2505]

It's all makeup

[@nikosalexopoulos6542]

It seems that Harry was not as dumb as he looked younger

[@jonasthemovie]

The makeup really takes me out of this movie.

[@FullmetalSP1]

That is a very bad edit when Kid points the gun at Joe. He looks up in fear - Cut to: he turns to look at high side-eye and mean.

[@alexshank1414]

I would much rather go to France, than China. Nothing against China, it would be me first choice.

[@MOTM1234]

mmmhhh, easy chief, it's 2023, you sound racists

[@FrancisBurns]

I just noticed, have the Chinese been financing this Ryons movies this long?

[@michaelanderson3096]

Vote Trump 😂

[@sneedfeed3179]

Awesome movie, shitty ending. No need for an annoying fucking sappy kid story

[@TheUnavaiIabIe]

Why is he CGd?

[@MOTM1234]

apparently to make him look more like Bruce Willis