Tense Confrontation | Cobra Kai: Season 4, Episode 5 | Now Playing

[@pendafen7405]

1:25 Zabka is so subtle and intelligent with his acting, like the way in this split second he takes a couple of paces back from Kreese and looks down, showing the highschool kid inside him is still scared of his Sensei. It also doubles as a moment of Johnny checking footwork--both his own and his prospective opponent's--as all good martial artists do out of habit.

[@miguelpasamano4995]

That kind of happens when your own teacher tries to murder you once when you're just a teenager then twice more in your own dojo a few and a half decades later!

[@ThatoneGuy-zd4rl]

Daniel always a hothead. True to his character - love him and Johnny on the same side as best buds.

[@NightmareChronicles77]

The fact that even people watching the show actually believe terrys apology was genuine shows how good of a manipulator he is

[@JG-ef4ut]

I think Silver was genuine in his apology as he made peace with the past. It was Kreese’s meddling and Daniel’s reaction to Silver’s apology attempt that finally pushed Silver over the edge.

[@jeronimo196]

Nah. Just because he apologized, he shouldn't expect Daniel to accept his apology.

[@ChineseSausage]

He's a psicopath. He would act civilized and all, but without really meaning it

[@KGBeast.]

Terry: I've changed Daniel: Bullshit Mike Barnes: I've changed Daniel: Yeah that's all good man

[@mokujin9993]

chozen: Kuresai!

[@GG-zk3de]

Did Mike Barnes pretend to be Daniels friend and then mentor?

[@spyrath1935]

Difference is that Mike got hit really hard and changed course. Daniel went crazy on him until he realized that he's not a danger anymore, and he's remorseful. Silver went through the consequences too, lost everything, but here he is again next to Kreese.

[@manuellim6284]

I think it’s because Terry Silver is next to John Kreese and Daniel doesn’t believe Silver has changed after 1985

[@josseeduardo6557]

Ccmcs

[@ninacarmosino6905]

Daniel really wasn't happy to see Terry silver and I wasn't either. Seeing Kreese and Silver together was still twisted.

[@dumitriuflorentina6137]

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[@anacatarina1388]

Daniel is more afraid of Silver then Kreese.

[@ronaldshank7589]

In a way, though, Daniel Larusso brought this fight on himself. Think back, to where he told his own Daughter, Samantha (Sam), that Mr. Myagi had taught Daniel Larusso:"There are no enemies." Daniel Larusso apparently forgot that little lesson. It was very hypocritical for Daniel to extend his forgiveness to some...but not all. I know of the pasts of both Sensei John Kreese, and Sensei Terry Silver. That being said, though, they BOTH tried to apologize to Daniel Larusso.....and what does Danny-boy do? As I said:He forgot what Sensei Myagi taught him, about not holding grudges, and learning to be forgiving. One cannot be forgiven, if he will not be forgiving. Daniel Larusso is so full of hate and bitterness towards what should be his FORMER ENEMIES, that they remain his enemies, and this event shown here, kick-starts a whole new war between the now-present teams of four Senseis-Daniel Larusso and Johnny Lawrence on one side, and John Kreese and Terry Silver on the other side. All because Daniel Larusso is too hard-headed, too hard-hearted, too stubborn, too bitter...and too unwilling, to forgive and forget... And to move on in life!

[@husbandssam]

@@ronaldshank7589 I understand your perspective, but I do not agree with you because there's a misunderstanding about Daniel's reaction to Terry Silver. Silver didn't just bully Daniel; he sadistically tortured him physically and mentally and made his life a living hell for months and months, and he enjoyed every second of it, which also deeply impacted Daniel's life and his relationship with Mr. Miyagi. Daniel has been deceived by Silver's apologies before, and given Silver's past actions and his change under Kreese's influence, it's understandable that Daniel remains cautious and does not trust him. True forgiveness requires consistent, meaningful actions, not just words. Silver, being wealthy, could have done something to earn Daniel's trust and forgiveness (and he should have) and demonstrated his sincerity through tangible acts of amends, such as making a genuine effort to make things right or showing consistent positive change over time. Instead, showing up with Kreese, who has his own grievances against Daniel, only exacerbates the situation. Silver's expectation that Daniel would easily forgive and forget everything that he did to him, and that they could just move on as if nothing had happened, shows a lack of understanding of the damage he caused. Additionally, Daniel has had a lot of trauma from what Cobra Kai did to him, which further explains his strong reaction and reluctance to easily forgive. Also, you are wrong-Kreese NEVER apologized to Daniel and continues to hold a grudge to this day, making his hostility ongoing. Kreese has always hated Daniel, ever since The First Karate Kid, simply because Daniel beat Johnny in the tournament that year. Kreese's inability to let go of that loss is evident in his extreme reaction, where he threw a temper tantrum and even tried to kill Johnny afterward. Prior to the tournament, when Mr. Miyagi and Daniel went to the Cobra Kai dojo, Mr. Miyagi respectfully requested that Kreese have his students leave Daniel alone. Instead of agreeing, Kreese refused and forced Daniel to fight in the tournament by threatening him and Mr. Miyagi with "open season" if they didn't show up. Kreese has never taken responsibility for his actions and refuses to move on from that tournament, which keeps the cycle of hostility alive. His refusal to let things go and his constant pursuit of revenge have only fueled the animosity between him and Daniel. As for Daniel, he is NOT full of hate. While he is not perfect and has made mistakes and has been a bit of a hothead, his actions and reactions are often driven by his experiences and the severe trauma inflicted upon him by Cobra Kai. Daniel has shown the capacity for forgiveness, as seen with Johnny, Chozen, and Mike Barnes, where each person made genuine efforts to make amends. His reaction to Kreese and Silver reflects the unresolved issues and the need for substantial proof of change. Mr. Miyagi's teachings are valuable, but they are not always a perfect fit for every situation. His wisdom provides important guidance, but real-life circumstances often require more nuanced responses. Not every principle applies perfectly in every situation. Daniel's decisions reflect his personal experiences and the need for genuine actions to earn forgiveness.

[@ZeeAttaCk316]

Daniel fears Terry Silver because Terry Silver is the master of manipulation and psychological warfare. That kind of person like Silver is very dangerous than the man who’s willing to break bones like Kreese

[@redips]

Johnny is Kreese's number one student, yet he never mentions Terry Silver to him at all.

[@hazard1319]

yes he does when kreese goes to go recruit silver he says johnny lawrence and then silver replies your champ

[@Hinshu85]

​@@hazard1319You got it wrong. OP said Johnny never knew about Terry.

[@terrrell7798]

@@Hinshu85 Silver didn't debut until Karate Kid III. That's why Kreese never mentioned him to Johnny in Karate Kid 1

[@nicolasdivirgilio7306]

0:11 0:21 Johnny wondering like “who tf is this guy how does he know larusso is there something I don’t know” really ashame Johnny didn’t know silver back when he was a teen in karate kid

[@kevinthompson3569]

It was really strange that Johnny knew nothing about Silver even though the latter was Kreese's best friend and knew about Johnny.

[@bigppenergy1875]

​@@kevinthompson3569because when kreese focused on training johnny and his students, silver was entirely focused on his bussiness I would assume

[@DEAN_23]

*KREESE:* Has it really come down to this? Johnny Lawrence, playing second fiddle, to little Danny LaRusso? *ME:* Has it really come down to this? Johnny Lawrence, taking life advice, from someone who tried to take it more than once?....

[@Creationmade555]

Two old men riding in a fancy car, and that's what I call a good head start

[@xavierlipko]

This scene is so good.

[@service2204]

Terry silver should have his own spinoff i love this character

[@williamlambert352]

Bruce Lee king of the martial arts Legend master best great martial arts fighter big fan of Bruce Lee

[@Formula577]

All the kids peeking through the door was funny.

[@mikeweidmann2640]

I wonder if Daniel had accepted Silver’s apology would things have been different.

[@ronaldshank7589]

I believe that Terry Silver's apology was totally sincere. Danny-boy needs to forgive and forget...and to get over himself!

[@stefanss-q7m]

Best season in my opinion remember when I was excited to watch the season in 2021 and I saw the trailer for it can’t wait for season 6

[@win4man]

1:54 The first time Johnny Lawrence saw Silver 0:40 before their time

[@XFS540]

If Silver was still wearing his linen summer suits and didn’t have his hair in a ponytail, his apology probably would have been taken more seriously.

[@ugsita]

He looks like HIGHLANDER "THE highlander. there can be only one" and yet you picked the WRONG one, because the only Highlander is Corner, and silver looks like Dancan there's more: there can be only one IMMORTAL, but there are thousands of Highlannder, because every single person who liver in the Highlinds is a Highlander🤣

[@2Good2BeTrue45]

Tbh Duncan Macleod is more popular than Connor is. The man was 119 episodes plus a movie (we dont speak about the source) Even when I think of Highlander, I instantly think of Adrian Paul as Duncan Macleod more than I think of Christopher Lambert as Connor

[@armaan_7]

What would have happened if Daniel accepted the apology? What was Terry Silver's goal here?

[@DEAN_23]

I think he was legit in what he was saying - he wanted to win the All Valley, but do it the honourable way, but it was Kreese, always pressing the issue, the whole "Get him, because he got us"....

[@ronaldshank7589]

​@@DEAN_23Sensei Kreese may have been saying that, but- 1: Ultimately, Terry Silver has to be the one to choose whether to listen to John Kreese, or not. 2: Daniel's actions speak volumes! He decides to keep on hating what should be his FORMER ENEMIES, and, in doing so, restart this War! Terry and John both tried to make amends. They truly tried! This whole thing is Daniel's fault!

[@DEAN_23]

@@ronaldshank7589 Yeah - Silver truly tried. Whilst standing next to the guy that sent his students to attack Daniel's, and Johnny's, at the brother's house - yeah sure, let's just let bygones be bygones, right!?....

[@pendafen7405]

0:22 Johnny full himbo jock Strike First mode. he's like Daniel baby idk who this weird slimy old dude is but if you need me to I WILL kick his ass no questions asked

[@MoeunMaosweettreats1981]

I can’t explain why I find this scene so interesting although it shows how things can be between the good guys and bad guys.

[@JessicaChastainFan]

The long pauses in between sentences from Kreese. 😂

[@KevinRodriguez-vd7vf]

Badass

[@1990rable]

cant wait for the new season

[@bifftannen1598]

Silver should've thought that just showing up at the dojo out of nowhere might've not been the best thing to do, considering what he did 30 years before. Maybe having his secretary set up a meeting wherever Daniel wanted to meet would've been more productive. And not having Kreese with as Daniel had just fought him. I know, for show purposes it had to be done this way

[@prashanthsarma5895]

Compare silver’s encounter with Daniel to Mike Barnes’

[@pendafen7405]

Everyone saying it's strange that Johnny had no clue who Silver is--I agree. It smacks of bad retcons and lazy writing that no explanation is ever given. However, isn't it weirder that teen martial arts fan and local champion Johnny had also never heard of America's bad boy of karate Mike Barnes prior this season? Mike is someone who Johnny of the '80s might have thought was cool or looked up to.

[@arcanewarrior863]

Mike Barnes probably rose to popularity after Johnny left karate. In that sort of sport fads were common , champions rise and fall

[@jayzee7538]

As much as I love this series I think it's a whole retcon. Johnny after losing to Daniel was at peace and said "You're alright La Russo (as he hands him trophy), good match". Then, the parking lot incident with Kreese and then at start of Karate Kid 3 all his students left due to his behaviors and ways. Basically, Johnny has made peace and moved on to bigger and better things. Then, we are introduced to this show which implies for 33-34 years Johnny has been living in depression and screwed up ways and he's still bitter about losing a High School Karate Tournament and the kicker is he wants to go back to Cobra Kai, the dojo that nearly killed him and had him realizing at end of Karate Kid 1 and start of Karate Kid 2 was bad ways and toxic. Retcon at it's finest.

[@pendafen7405]

@@jayzee7538 you're right, it's AU fanfiction. But when male fanboys write it, no-one calls it that (wonder why)

[@jaybling6687]

The problem with what you're saying is that from the perspective of the first Karate Kid, there was no Terry Silver yet. People believed it was just Kreese at that point. So it can't be a retcon when it's never established whether Johnny knew of Silver in the first place. The show ultimately reveals that Silver was being forced to run his family business or be cut out of the family inheritance. So how often would Silver see the dojo? Couldn't Silver have just been a shadow benefactor whom the students never met?

[@calebsoria1901]

This got dark so fast because silver was the one who made Daniel become cobra kai

[@flintcityhc1524]

A lot of these issues could be resolved if Daniel and Johnny brought in Master Ken

[@H.K.5]

Or Dale Brown.

[@TheKingThewidowandRick777]

Daniel's fatal flaw throughout the show is refusing to show forgiveness at the right moment he refused to show forgiveness to Silver in this scene and it eventually turned him into a dangerous adversary again. He screwed over a remorseful Kreese during the in prison and encouraged Johnny to do the same and now has a vengeful Kreese on the loose to do battle with one last time in the upcoming final season who's far more terrifying and dangerous than he's ever been in the franchise thus far, even though they could have reconciled during the prison meeting. Daniel's just hypocritical and unforgiving and it's caused problems for himself and as well other the characters in the show because he can't let the past go and recognize that 30 years is a long time and people even past enemies can change.

[@Tommy_111]

Kreesr wasn't remourseful stop lying to fit your agenda. Kreesr strong armed them into a deal r7 benefit himself coz Silver betrayed him. And if Silver went back to being bad simply because Daniel didn't accept his first attempt at an apology after being cruelly tormented, then Silver's apology wasn't genuine at all.

[@TheKingThewidowandRick777]

@@Tommy_111 Kreese was remorseful to how he treated Johnny not to Daniel watch 4x10 again and you'll see that Kreese resents Daniel now more than ever because Daniel's completely turned Johnny who he looked at as the son he never had against him. Silver recognized that Kreese loved Johnny like a son and didn't want to hurt him and took advantage of that. I've said this before and I will say it again Daniel's fatal flaw is hypocrisy and his unforgiving attitude and that's what sets up the final season in the first place if Daniel kept his word and gave Kreese the lawyer's number during the meeting in the prison some of the events of the upcoming season 6 wouldn't have happened.

[@Tommy_111]

@@TheKingThewidowandRick777 that's ridiculous. Daniel didn't turn Johnny into anything. Johnny is a grown man who saw Kreese for what he is. He himself decided to turn on Kreese, Daniel didn't make him. There is nothing wrong with Daniel not forgiving either of them. What have Kreese and Terry done to earn his forgiveness? You do know that forgiveness is earned, right? If your first apology is rejected and you go straight back to hurting the person, the apology was bullshit. Imagine blaming Daniel for the decisions of 3 grown man. Ridiculous

[@moseslalmuanpuia8988]

​@@TheKingThewidowandRick777I get what your saying about daniel and kreese but I think you're completely wrong about kreese. Kreese completely hates daniel and has never stopped hating him since karate kid. The prison incident in season 5 wasn't a matter of forgiving either. It was just a matter of mutual benefits and kreese was swindled, which he had coming because of his no mercy policy.

[@hotpotat0es]

I've got a kreese in my butt cheeks

[@laneyhammett727]

Daniel and Johnny first he talk with him

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Kreese: LaRusso can sure hold a grudge. Pot, meet kettle. KK3 wouldn't have happened if Kreese didn't hold a grudge.

[@thefighter5182]

If Mike Barnes was there then Johnny Lawrence could join him and both of them can beat up Silver and Kreese.

[@kevinthompson3569]

Don't forget season 3. Kreese had his students terrorize Daniel's even after Miyagi-Do was shut down, and after Miguel and Sam saved the All Valley tournament.

[@shainalopezshainalopez8697]

Shainalopez

[@GaryTongue-zn5di]

Agreed! You can SMELL the sexual Tension between Daniel and Johnny in this scene! 😉

[@ChineseSausage]

You ruined it for everyone