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My Hemi Tick is GONE - 2022 Ram 1500 Purrs Like a Kitten Now!

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Күн бұрын

No more curious looks from bystanders when I first start my truck now. Cool! #ram1500 #hemitick #trucks

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@4-LOW
@4-LOW Жыл бұрын
2012 owners manual: "NOTE: Vehicles equipped with a 5.7L engine must use SAE 5W-20 oil. Failure to do so may result in improper operation of the Multi-Displacement System (MDS)." 2014 owners manual: "NOTE: MOPAR® SAE 5W-30 engine oil approved to Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395 may be used when SAE 5W-20 engine oil meeting MS-6395 is not available" 2016 owners manual: "MOPAR SAE 5W-20 engine oil approved to FCA Material Standard MS-6395 such as Pennzoil, Shell Helix or equivalent is recommended for all operating temperatures." 2022 owners manual: "We recommend using Mopar® SAE 0W-20 Full Synthetic Engine Oil which meets the requirements of the manufacturer Material Standard MS-6395. Equivalent full synthetic SAE 0W-20 engine oil can be used but must have the API Starburst trademark NOTE: Hemi engines (5.7L) at times can tick right after startup and then quiet down after approximately 30 seconds. This is normal and will not harm the engine. This characteristic can be caused by short drive cycles. For example, if the vehicle is started then shut off after driving a short distance. Upon restarting, you may experience a ticking sound. Other causes could be if the vehicle is unused for an extended period of time, incorrect oil, extended oil changes or extended idling. If the engine continues to tick or if the Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) comes on, see the nearest authorized dealer." So with the EXACT SAME engine with MDS, we went from "you MUST use 20 weight oil" to "it's OK to use 30 weight" to "we recommend even thinner 0W20 weight" and then finally they admitted that the watery 20 weight oils cause ticking because the viscosity is too thin and the lifters bleed down too fast, plus there is improper lubrication.
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying it for years. And you can look at the 3.6 Pentastar as proof. That motor started using 5W30 when it was released in 2009. Very few lifter/cam failures. In 2014 they went to 5W20, we saw an uptick in lifter/cam failures. In 2017/2018 they switched to 0W20 and lifter/cam failures became common. I'm no rocket surgeon, but it doesn't take a PhD to correlate the reduction in viscosity with the increase in failures. I ran Redline 5W30 in my 2013 and 2017 5.7 Hemi's without issue, and run it in my 2012 and 2021 Wrangler/Gladiator without issue. I run Redline 5W40 in my 6.4 without issue. Those thinner oils aren't being used for anything other than FCA chasing a fraction of a percent better fleetwide fuel economy ratings.
@watchman11000
@watchman11000 Жыл бұрын
I could care less about that MDS system operating, it's annoying kicking in and out and sounds like crap. I turn it off with the manual shift buttons every time I drive, I don't calculate a difference in fuel economy at all.
@jasonangamarca
@jasonangamarca Жыл бұрын
@@watchman11000 yea i hated it so i got a tune that can turn that on and off, really sounds like shit with a aftermarket exhaust too
@davidporter7051
@davidporter7051 Жыл бұрын
Honestly your understanding of motor oils is very off. The 0W20 will be the same or more "thickness" as 5W30 in use. This is because 0W20 shears a lot less because it has a combination of better base stocks and less viscosity improvers. Also the difference between a SAE 30 and SAE 20 is about the width of a human hair. This is also why you can use a 5W30 without issue because the width of a human hair makes no difference.
@NXT_LVL
@NXT_LVL Жыл бұрын
@@davidporter7051 I was always told that the second number was the weight AFTER the additives. So once that's gone your down to the first number, 0, 5, 10 etc. Thats why when you first ran a Model T you used Vegetable oil, but by the time it was a junker, the clearances and tolerances were so bad you could have run maple syrup. Obviously tech has changed over the last 120+ years. But the thinner the oil, the less affective oil pressure you have in the system, to create the barrier to save the parts from wear, due to it being so freely moving in the system. Now, throw in some cold temps, maybe a Canada winter and we have a whole new ball of wax to discuss/argue/speculate on who's right or wrong. Running 0w20 means the tolerances are supper tight for the rod bearings etc but is the oil pump the same in all these engines of the last decade? Whats the oil pressure at idle vs under load? and was it enough to pump it to the top side of the engine to keep the lifters happy.
@CDNGoMangoSRT
@CDNGoMangoSRT Жыл бұрын
Took your advice, 5w-30 full synthetic. Engine runs smooth and quiet, no tick even after sitting for a week on cold start. This is great 👍
@RudeRaptor
@RudeRaptor Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to switch 5w-30 myself. 2013 ram 1500 5.7l 106k miles
@CDNGoMangoSRT
@CDNGoMangoSRT Жыл бұрын
@@RudeRaptor Give it a go, can't hurt.
@conative598
@conative598 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 5.7L Hemi with 99k miles gonna try this 5-w30 full synthetic.....GoMangoKitty did this fix you're tik issues situation?
@m3ttro660
@m3ttro660 Жыл бұрын
@@conative598have you tried it yet? I’m having the same problem on my 19 ram 41k miles. Driving me insane 😩
@thaslickguy
@thaslickguy Жыл бұрын
​@m3ttro660 did you change the oil? Did it do anything?
@williamakers3990
@williamakers3990 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys auto tech here currently for dodge and worked a little bit for gm You are spot on sir All vehicles with the 0w-20 weight and 5w-20 weight That weight is too thin Helps give these new vehicles a couple extra miles per gallon but reliability goes way down After talking to some guys who’ve been doing it longer than I’ve been alive and in combination with my own experience If you switch to a thicker weight 5w30 or 10w30 You’ll lose a couple extra miles per gallon however the extra thickness really helps coat that cam and the lifters Just thought I’d chime in you were spot on with your video
@scottcpan68
@scottcpan68 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the thinner oil is all about better fuel economy. Back in the day 10W40 and 20W50 were what we ran, especially in older V-8 muscle cars.
@williamakers3990
@williamakers3990 Жыл бұрын
@@scottcpan68 what’s really insane is that if they didn’t have the active fuel management (afm) or if deleted and ran the thicker oil I would be out of a job These cars are actually made very well and borderline bullet proof what’s screwing everything up is the emission laws being passed by legislation. I have plenty of friends who again have done this a while Built their own race cars Hell they’ve forgot more about cars than I could ever know And even they agree with that statement Take away the afm bs and you got yourself a bullet proof machine
@MoparMafia5.7
@MoparMafia5.7 Жыл бұрын
Hemi engine do not like anything over 10-30 because it’s starts to restric in the passages and so forth exspecially in order gums up engines ! Also a Mopar tech been building Mopar for years !! Drag racer/builder
@Kgio-2112
@Kgio-2112 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I ve been saying this for years. The thinner oil nowadays is all for better fuel economy. Also, newer engines have a higher oil capacity than years ago. Probably cause the thinner oil burns easily and having an extra quart or two in the bigger oil pan helps keep it lubricated. I remember 4 cyl engines from the 80s tool 3.5- 4 qts . Now they are up to 6 qts in some brands.
@gunsmoke487
@gunsmoke487 11 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 5.7 Hemi 180,000 miles I’m going to try 5/30 or 10/30 first before I replace the cam and lifters it’s not a loud tick but I notice it more in drive not moving. It might be broken exhaust manifold bolt a shop told me it’s the cam and lifters but that’s what I’m going to confirm myself.
@dalemllns
@dalemllns Жыл бұрын
I've told several people to run 5w30 in their Ram 1500 5.7s. The owners manual even says you can in hotter climates. I've ran several of these engines to 200k on 5w30 with zero issues. I'm also a Gen 3 Hemi builder and I've had well over 500 of these apart, and mine with 5w30 were all clean inside. 5w30, 5k religiously intervals.
@J0897
@J0897 Жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true engine builder, however, i still do a 2k oil change like there is no filter! Imagine how clean my engine would be if i ever bought anything brand new?
@mrtopcat2
@mrtopcat2 Жыл бұрын
@@J0897 That is why I am soo happy to have bought our Wrangler JK made to order brand spanking new (my first new vehicle). I even asked the dealer to leave it as is as it arrived and they kindly followed my request. It was there in the back of the lot, all original and the dealer let me to take off all the protective plastics. No one has worked on the vehicle since, no one has sat behind the wheel since. I have done everything on the vehicle since, even the car washes. Just sent my oil to a lab for testing, which is a first for me too. 5W30 all the way, despite the (ill) recommend factory 5W20. Some day, I would like to buy another new vehicle, but sadly there is less and less new vehicles that interest me. Anything more than 6-speed auto is out of the question for me, which already excludes (like all???) new vehicles. Also the recent locking of ECM, via Security Gateway Module (SGM) does not sound too encouraging. As if accessing the ECM was not already hard enough. This is just what we 'needed'.
@wvjeepguy8178
@wvjeepguy8178 Жыл бұрын
@@mrtopcat2 Tacomas are still running a 6 speed auto for now.
@mrtopcat2
@mrtopcat2 Жыл бұрын
@@wvjeepguy8178 I agree and that is one more thing that I like about the Tacomas. But I heard that sadly 2024 models (maybe even already 2023 models) will be going to move to a 10-speed auto. I hope not. You might be a Tacoma fan and might know more. If so please share. We currently also have a BMW 440i with an 8-speed auto (same as the new Jeeps) and what can I say, we don't like it a bit and exactly the 8-speed auto part of it. It is like driving one of those 50cc motorcycles; you find yourself in 5th gear, while you are still driving at bicycle speeds. I have no idea who likes these auto transmissions with as many speeds like a semi truck. I hear some people find it it sporty. But that is sure not me.
@wvjeepguy8178
@wvjeepguy8178 Жыл бұрын
@@mrtopcat2 The 2023 models listed on the site are still showing the 6 speed auto, but i do know they will be going to different transmissions sometimes soon. A transmission isn't going to be inherently worse just because it has more gears. For example, the autos in newer Wranglers are far better than the older autos from just a few years ago. there are already kits to upgrade older wranglers to the newer autos.
@essasarkhy
@essasarkhy Жыл бұрын
Thanks a Lot man, I had a tick noise in my 2014 Hemi dodge ram so I fond your video and I change the oil to 5w30 and the Hemi tick is GONE ! .... Respect from Saudi Ariba.
@somap8380
@somap8380 5 ай бұрын
I thought in hot countries they run straight SAE 30. -- 0W20 is for very cold weather places. In Singapore they run SAE 30 even in Toyota Prius.
@tanktheram
@tanktheram 11 ай бұрын
I've been been upping the viscosity in all of my engines for years. The 5.7 Hemi loves 5w30 I can attest. Most notable was my recent Jeep Gladiator with the 3.6 and my mother in laws Compass with the 2.4. Both specified to run 0W20. Both were extremely noisy, under all conditions - especially at operating temp. Went to 5w30 in both, and they're silent and smooth sounding with zero loss of fuel economy. All this super thin oil is designed for the CAFE standard, and the measured fuel economy number during their initial test. It is not designed for hopping in, running to the grocery store or towing a trailer uphill - where you would never know the difference. Oil related wear failures are becoming some of the most common, across all brands. Keep your engines alive - up the viscosity.
@Iwillnotbepushed
@Iwillnotbepushed 3 ай бұрын
Switched my wife’s RAV to 5-30 high mileage and it cut oil consumption to 1 qt every 2000 miles.
@JasonRoman-uq7nc
@JasonRoman-uq7nc 3 ай бұрын
My 3.6 in wrangler would tick. Put in 5w20 pennzoil platinum. What Jeep recommends. Tick is gone.
@Iwillnotbepushed
@Iwillnotbepushed 3 ай бұрын
Did the same to my RAV4. 5W-30 and it doesn’t sound like a sewing machine on start up anymore. 220,000 miles and still driven 166 miles daily from North GA to Marietta GA.
@Iwillnotbepushed
@Iwillnotbepushed 3 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity how many miles on that 5.7 and have you had any cam and lifter issues.
@netsurfers9357
@netsurfers9357 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 RAM 4x4 and I typically use 5w-20 in the winter and 5w-30 in the summer of full synthetic. Another thing that I found that really helps stop the ticking as much in the beginning is a oil additive (metal penetrant) on top to reduce the wear significantly. From doing research many mechanics have said it is because the oil pressure doesn't allow to reach the top end of the engine, hence the 6.2 hemi engine performance oil pump is the way to go on a 5.7 hemi as it bolts right up and gives more performance volume to get that oil faster on the top end! Yes, the type of oil makes a significant difference as well, no doubt! The hemi engines of today also have problems with heat/thaw on the manifolds to snap bolts, which is very common and recommendations are to change the manifolds out to shorty sport tuned headers. Stainless steel headers heat/thaw at rates closer to the aluminum heads than cast iron! There is a big difference between a good quality header and the cheap ones that are out on the market! The recommendations are to have quality tuned shorty headers from what I have heard from many different mechanics! My wish is for people to take care of what they have and may it last for many years to come! I have not had very many problems with my truck since buying it and am thankful to all the engineers who worked hard with making a quality product as I hear stories out there on many different automakers of what can go wrong and/or will eventually! I changed to quality LED backup lights on my truck also, the cheap ones had resister problems and the new ones seem to by pass those problems that even extend to the key fobs with starting issues. Buy quality when you can, then they should last and perform correctly, lessons learned! Life is an adventure!... Love you brother!
@stevenhicks815
@stevenhicks815 Жыл бұрын
Like maybe some Lucas oil when you change oil?
@BigHRepair
@BigHRepair 11 ай бұрын
@@stevenhicks815 gotta watch it. I am a huge fan of Lucas products, and am new to hemi's. Not used to mds or anything like that. I did an oil change and only used about a quart of Lucas and got a misfire and the lifter code for reactivation. Changed the oil and have had no issues since. Glad I caught it soon.
@stevenhicks815
@stevenhicks815 11 ай бұрын
@@BigHRepair so Lucas oil caused problems you think?
@bmead144
@bmead144 10 ай бұрын
Not sure what the reasoning is by switching to 5w20 in winter as the cold viscosity is the same in both 5w20 & 5w30. Both are 5 weight when cold-the 20 and 30 are the viscosity when reaching operating Temps ~200°.
@jettamustang
@jettamustang 5 ай бұрын
As far as oil additives check out this video and what they have to say, Lake Speed Jr is extremely knowledgeable on engine oil, you can check out his KZbin channel called the motor oil geek - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHPVlWajedt5pJofeature=shared
@153eddy
@153eddy 8 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with this from my own experience. Bought my Ram and noticed the ticking symphony at start up. I then switched to Amsoil 5W-30 and Wix filter. The ticking symphony quit and went away immediately. Just run 5W-30 and a filter that flows well.
@wrathedarkwater4520
@wrathedarkwater4520 Жыл бұрын
I just tried what you recommended on my 2012 1500 5.7 117,000 miles and I gotta say that it made a big difference, it’s the best my engine has sounded, especially on start up, my idle is smoother as well, thank you for making this video!
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor Жыл бұрын
The oil filter is small, we have a 392 car it specks a larger oil filter. For some time written on dipstick was Mobil One. My wife's truck started the tick at 30,000 I bought 0w 20 or 30 it's been a while so I know the tick went away. Now that it is getting close to oil change I will try 0 w 30. 0 W oil is not watery, all the Mobil one stays cleaner longer. What a new motor has is break in oil. I do not change my break in oil until at least 3000 miles. Just because a oil may seen thin doesn't make it bad oil. The technology of today's oil especially full synthetic is made to penertrate your vital internal parts . Someone completely drained the oil and put back the drain plug on my son's truck when he parked it for a weekend. On his trip to work the warnings came on and I met him at auto parts store. Leaving filter on it held 7 quarts of oil. Did not leak a drop, and when he parked it there was no warnings like he had lost oil. Well it did manage to spin the main bering. Unfortunately he drove it 10 miles to meet me but I had figured it was shot by that time anyway even if he would have pulled off when warning came on it had gone more than half way. I sold him that truck when he was just old enough to take over payments.i used nothing but Mobil one. He drove it with the knock for a hundred miles to dealerships to trade it in it would not die. My regret was him trading it with all the nice parts I had on it lol He needed to get to dealerships. He bought a 2500 diesel due to pulling a trailer and tax write off. The dealer gave him a fair price it was a 2003 1500 off road Laramie. With any other oil it would not have gone a mile. You have to face it lose all your oil and drive it its gonna break. But it was running at second dearship where he bought at.
@Jay-js5ik
@Jay-js5ik Жыл бұрын
@@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor What the hell is this grammar? My god man. Even your own account name has a spelling error in it.
@aaronwillett820
@aaronwillett820 9 ай бұрын
0W-20 is still a 20 weight oil. The w after "0" stands for "winter". Meaning it will flow like a 0 wieght during the winter in order to be able to flow and not be too thick. Going from a 20 weight oil to a 30 shouldn't be a big deal.
@rickrick6933
@rickrick6933 7 ай бұрын
​@@Jay-js5ikhey Karen..act like a man..we here to talk about engines not hear some drama queen mag about grammar...
@zonedout5998
@zonedout5998 4 ай бұрын
Since I bought the truck new (2019 Ram 5.7 non-Etorque), I’ve only used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Full Synthetic 5w-20 oil and I have no ticks whatsoever. No noises at all My truck currently has 120,000 miles. I’ve may change it prematurely but I’d rather be safe than sorry. I change it every 5,000 - 6,000 miles. My mechanic says I can go between 7,000 - 10,000 miles, and I believe I can, but it’s more for peace of mind. And I’m ok with that. Truck still running smooth like when I bought it.
@alexecheverria8428
@alexecheverria8428 Жыл бұрын
I believe starting the engine would have been very positive and serve as further proof of the engine running better,thank you for the video.
@Elpapijun
@Elpapijun 22 күн бұрын
Wow, my 2500 just started with a tic crap about a month now, and this is something I'm really about to start. Thanks for this info! I'll keep you updated.
@rudigarcia1111
@rudigarcia1111 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video bud! This worked like a charm! No more ticking sound and the engine sounds great!!
@johnflood4910
@johnflood4910 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2022 Ram 1500 Limited 5.7 Etorque 4X4 at 1,000 miles I changed the oil installed a Pacbrake oil relocation kit and a Valvo max drain plug for no mess oil changes But most important I installed a S17 Kand P Engineering reusable stainless steel mesh oil filter that cleans to 5 microns this is the key advantage 7 TIMES MORE FLOW than a paper filter at hot idle in 85 degree weather I get 35PSI at 95 MPH 45PSI IMO the proper pressure is better than high pressure BUT MAXIMUM FLOW AND CLEAN OIL STOPS WEAR and I have an internal MAGNET to catch all the micro metals. Im about to install a BYPASS Filter to clean down to 1 micron. Flow is the answer I use 0W20 Amsoil I changed the oil again at 5,000 miles and will change again at 10,000 miles currently 8500 and she is quite as can be on cold start or hot idle. CLEAN, GREAT FLOW, MAGNET, BEST OIL AMSOIL SIGNIURE SERIES IMO will make it last I did the same thing on my 15 Longhorn Ecodiesel and had 175,000 miles no motor issues. Diesel Fuel just cost to much and with the Etorque Im at 22MPG on hwy same as the Eco but $1.50/gal less at the pump I put in a tune running 440 HP I enjoy this truck and I enjoy changing the oil now I dont spil a drop. Take care of your truck a long the way and you will have a great life together. I wash the engine every 2 weeks with Griots engine wash looks better than the day I bought it. I'm old man but I like to go fast and listen to that hemi roar HAHA yeah baby. What else am I gonna do I cant dance.
@carrillo1877
@carrillo1877 Жыл бұрын
Can you post a video of your tuned hemi etorque and what type of tuner did you do?
@treyroberts8124
@treyroberts8124 Жыл бұрын
That's really smart, may have to look into doing that myself, but I'm sorry, 22 highway is nowhere close to the Ecodiesel. 4wd Ecodiesels get 30 highway lol
@johnflood4910
@johnflood4910 Жыл бұрын
@@treyroberts8124 I had a 2015 Ram 1500 Eco for 7 years and never got close to 30MPG 22 max I get 24MPG with my 22 Hemi
@treyroberts8124
@treyroberts8124 Жыл бұрын
@John flood well the 2015 was the 1st gen Ecodiesel which was a nearly completely different motor, so not the same thing at all lol. 4WD Ecos are rated at 29-30 highway, and I personally know 3 people that average that driving to and from work.
@warmeds2009
@warmeds2009 4 ай бұрын
I have the 392 and it had the HEMI tick... I remembered this video so much appreciated. I went with 5w40 full synthetic - the manufacuer recommends 0w40 and wow its gone. I cant believe how much smoother the engine sounds, purrs like a kitten...the tick instantly went away = total win.
@toyhaulen
@toyhaulen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video! I have changed to 5W-30 in my 2015 Ram 1500 hemi, sounds Great now! No more ticking and clanking sounds. I have 51k miles on it and I tow a toy hauler that is 8300 lbs. Hopefully it will add longevity to the engine. Thanks again!
@tgamble1000
@tgamble1000 Жыл бұрын
Should have fired-up the engine while recording so the audience could hear it for themselves.
@franksluga8790
@franksluga8790 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 ram been running 5-20 synthetic since new , changing it every 6,000 has the tick on start up goes away in 30sec, it currently has 300,000 km on it and still going strong , but I’ll give the 5-30 a try🤙
@teebo5298
@teebo5298 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your manifold bolts. We all have it the bolts break 100 percent
@philip4193
@philip4193 Жыл бұрын
Experienced the exact same thing when I bought my Jeep JK Wrangler new off the lot back in '08. The old-school Chrysler 3.8L pushrod V6 in it was designed back in the 80's and originally ran on 15W30 oil, however by the time in ended up in my Jeep, Chrysler had changed the oil spec to 5W20 in order to meet the government-mandated CAFE targets since slightly better mileage was achieved with the thinner oil. From day one that engine was noisy with rattles, tics and knocks and always felt harsh with notable drivetrain vibrations under load and higher RPMs, and it also burned oil from new (plug fouling was also an issue); these engines in the early JK Jeeps were notorious for these characteristics until they were replaced with the new clean sheet designed 3.6L Pentastar V6 in 2011. Anyway, I started doing my own oil changes on it after a few initial dealer services and switched to a quality 10W40 oil, as I live in a hot climate and just wasn't confident that the thin oil was protecting my engine in the summer (which is why I went for a 40 instead of a 30 weight, as our summer days are often 38C/100F plus). On the first drain I did of the 5W20 myself there was noticeable glitter in the used oil, and it seemed very thin and watery draining out and was jet black. As soon as I started the engine up again on the fresh 10W40 the difference was immediately noticeable; the engine idled quietly without any of the usual tics, knocks & rattles, and when I drove it and gave it some RPMs under load the engine revved freely and was silky smooth and quiet, without any of the harshness and vibration from before. On the next drain there was far less glitter in the used oil, with none whatsoever from then on; 14 years and 130K miles later and the Jeep is still running strong with no engine issues. I suspect that Chrysler's attitude regarding using this super-thin oil in order to achieve their CAFE targets is that as long as the engines make it through the warranty period then all is good, even if the life expectancy for the engine is reduced significantly; what happens after warranty's up just isn't their problem.
@mrtopcat2
@mrtopcat2 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. There is much misinformation out there by people who should know better or frankly actively trying to scare people into using CAFE oils. They argue tighter engines, MDS needs it and alike, but none of that is true. Engines aren't built tighter than they used to be. Part tolerances are smaller, but parts design clearances have been kept the same as decades ago.
@Vadim_Andr.
@Vadim_Andr. 2 ай бұрын
The dirtier the oil, the better it works. this is the system.
@rodneybyrd9516
@rodneybyrd9516 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 300s 5.7 Hemi that I bought brand new and it had the startup tick from the showroom floor. I think the MDS lifters make the noise, but I'm not positive. The noise always goes away within a few seconds so I never sweat it. I changed the break-in oil at 2000mi and then the next change 3000mi later, both times using Penzoil 5w-20 Platinum synthetic (DEXOS) and a Purolator One filter (as you use). I have always changed oil at 3000mi intervals with my older (10w-30) engines, but I decided to try 5K intervals with this Hemi. For the first full 5000mi fill, I added "Bio Tech" Lubegard oil additive (blue bottle, 16oz), which is thin and does not really increase the viscosity. After 5K with that mixture, I can report the tick is almost completely gone since adding the BioTech and my gas mileage went up slightly and also oil temp increased slightly, indicating better heat absorption in the oil (better cooling of moving parts). I might consider following your lead and using the Platinum Penzoil 5w-30 after the engine gets some more miles on it (only 15K on it now) and see if the gas mileage suffers. I don't like the watery oil myself, but I do run 10w-30 in racing engines where others use SAE40 or 20w-50...
@Vadim_Andr.
@Vadim_Andr. 2 ай бұрын
The oil temperature increases with increasing viscosity - always as the pressure increases.
@abcinc.2297
@abcinc.2297 4 ай бұрын
I used Royal Purple. I had the tick previously and once I switched over to royal purple 💜 👌 totally changed the sound of my truck and its a 2021 Ram 1500 Limited. ROYAL PURPLE GUYS
@brentlafont5005
@brentlafont5005 Ай бұрын
I switched to valvoline and the tick quit same weight etc
@AlbeTurner
@AlbeTurner 5 күн бұрын
What weight RP?
@michaelwaiwood5629
@michaelwaiwood5629 Жыл бұрын
I run the 5w 20 full synthetic but I also run the Lucas oil additive new car formula and engine tik is gone. I have over 60K on my 2019 fifth gen with no issues and been running Lucas additive since 20K. The 5W 30 is absolutely fine but the Lucas additive is thick and does the same thing basically. Good video brother and happy motoring!
@cjs9477
@cjs9477 Жыл бұрын
I had 2 hemi trucks that had higher milage I used that stuff in, thinking it would help but I got a really bad lifter ticking like almost knocking both times, seems like it gets in the lifters or something and makes them stiick maybe? I Really wouldnt use additives in these engines. just keep the oil really clean, thats just from my experience with lucas
@dannistackett9639
@dannistackett9639 11 ай бұрын
I also tried that and couldn't tell any difference
@johnalcala
@johnalcala Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what it is. Slightly thicker oil is what will get rid of the little ticking sound
@dannyg7823
@dannyg7823 5 ай бұрын
I had the same issues with my jeep with the 3.6. I just had this conversation with co-workers. My father ran 20w50 in everything and said the same. Low viscosity... he never had any issues. I started running 15w50, and it's super quiet now and gets better fuel economy.
@dan04r1
@dan04r1 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2021 and it feels like it’s a ticking time bomb sometimes. Thanks for the video! I will be switching over to synthetic from now on.
@mikehd3904
@mikehd3904 Жыл бұрын
Wtf dude, why wouldn't you right from the start
@MadMexism
@MadMexism Жыл бұрын
@@mikehd3904 Bet dude running 20W-50.
@zacharymarcum5628
@zacharymarcum5628 Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth Spouse has 14 grand cherokee overland 5.7 hemi with 74,000 miles-has been a great vehicle overall but noticed the hemi tick especially on startup that would settle down soon after startup. I have taken more of a role in maintenance on this vehicle and in addition to full synthetic changes I also add lucas full synthetic oil stabilizer and I feel that it has greatly if not completely cured the tick. Keep in mind I became a believer in the lucas oil stabilizer product when dealing with my civilian H1 HMMWV with the 6.5 turbo diesel. It is not my daily driver and when i would periodically start/use this vehicle there was a noticeable dry start "clack" for a few seconds that drove me nuts but i expected this as it may be weeks or months between use. Since using lucas oil stabilizer in the humvee it can sit 6 months and intial start is smooooth as silk......there is an undeniable difference. Just my experience take it for what its worth but I use it in my kubota diesel as well. appreciate the info and the channel.
@johnbeaudry9340
@johnbeaudry9340 Жыл бұрын
Good video ! I have been using 5w/30 for 2 years , since we bought our 2013 ram 5.7 . I also use a quart of lucas synthetic oil stabilizer . Change it before the "recommend" pre set 10k oil change interval . I might try rotella 5w/40 the next time its due for a change .
@Logan-te3iq
@Logan-te3iq Жыл бұрын
Lucas is great so is hot shots
@Thundarr995
@Thundarr995 Жыл бұрын
That Lucas synthetic oil stabilizer works great. I have a 96 5.2L Grand Cherokee. I bought it used with a little less than 150k miles on it. It sat in a garage for a long time...years. I think it had some stuck lifters. I flushed the engine with Seafoam. The valve train seemed to be a little quieter,but it had a shakey idle. A few days later I drained about a quart of oil and added a bottle of Lucas. Within a week, the Valve train quieted down and it runs really well. Been driving it nearly every day for over a year now. Took it on a few long trips. I trust it. I'm pretty sure that some of the lifters were stuck because sometimes the tick would come and go with just regular 10w30 oil. And it always had good oil pressure.
@samspace81
@samspace81 Жыл бұрын
Check your passenger side exhaust manifold, rear bolt is broken causing that "tick"
@redskinman0
@redskinman0 11 ай бұрын
2018 Ram 1500,started using Lucas 4 oil changes ago to try and help tick,tick has only gotten louder! 74,000 miles
@coreydavid2
@coreydavid2 Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi and I use penzoil ultra platinum 5w 30 also and I use the Boss purolator oil filter! I have no ticking sound at all! I'm staying with the 5w30 oil!
@cliffroberts1774
@cliffroberts1774 3 ай бұрын
I did this and was shocked that my tick was gone. Found this video the next day. I works fellow Ram folk
@ladiddle4912
@ladiddle4912 6 ай бұрын
Very very glad I took the time to watch this, thank you sir!
@greghale717
@greghale717 6 ай бұрын
Old post, but I took the advice in the video and changed out the oil at about 800 miles because I was getting tired of hearing the "sewing machine effect" on cold startup. Changed to Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic 5w-30, and VOILA, all ticking noises are GONE, I mean, engine is so quiet now. this 0w-20 oil they put in the hemi engines is almost of a pure water consistency. What a change the 5w-30 made. I'm confident this oil will be just fine for the engine.
@diyjeff1838
@diyjeff1838 Жыл бұрын
Update. I am now 15k miles since I took your advice and it does run much quieter. Thank you!!!
@ronwinkles2601
@ronwinkles2601 10 ай бұрын
I used to have the tick in my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 liter engine. It lasted until my first oil change at about 4500 miles. I asked the RAM dealership what oil to use, and they recommended semi-synthetic 5W-20 and not full synthetic due to possible damage to electronic monitoring sensors in the oil lubrication system. At any rate, I insisted on adding one quart of Lucas Engine Treatment. This obviously increased the oil viscosity, and the tick went away. I now have nearly 40,000 miles on my truck, and it has performed beautifully with no ticks or visible oil use between 4500 mile oil changes. Taking your advice, I plan to switch 5W-30 at my next change and continue with Lucas. My vehicle often sets for a month or longer between use, and the Lucas helps with dry starts versus 5W-20 that is long gone from the upper engine components.
@slim56
@slim56 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been running 5w30 in multiple 5.7 hemis. With a lot of mileage. They get 5psi better hot idle pressure and absolutely no valve train noise or issues.
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
Wow! 5 psi more? Interesting. Better sealing oil I guess
@chadparks9810
@chadparks9810 Жыл бұрын
Been running Mobil One 5w-20 since the first oil change on my 2009 Ram Sport with the 5.7 HEMI and changed oil religiously every 3000 miles. Never dealt with any ticking at all on the engine and now just over 220K miles. Have always used WIX filters at every oil change. I do add a "motor flush" application before every third or fourth oil change to soften up and remove any sludge/varnish in the journals and cavities to keep the oil flowing smoothly as with all my other vehicles and seems to be working like a charm. The only engine/drivetrain part replaced so far were the alternator and the serpentine belt. I've added a can of B-12 Chemtool to the tank at every other fill-up to keep the fuel system clean since it was new, and never had any starting/stumbling/performance issues at all.
@idontcaresapo8233
@idontcaresapo8233 Жыл бұрын
I only use amzoil signature series and I do the oil change every 5 k milles.
@newspaperlightbulb
@newspaperlightbulb 4 ай бұрын
same here with my hemi. pennzoil platinum full synthetic 5w20, wix/xp filters, and 3,000 mile intervals. i think there’s a case to be made for switching to 5w30 or 5w40 but i think playing around with oil viscosity is a dangerous game. simply using the best oil and filters as well as maintaining strict service intervals matters a lot more.
@JMark-zk5pj
@JMark-zk5pj Жыл бұрын
I purchased my 5.7 1500 new in 2004, currently 350k miles. I remember on my third dealer oilchange they changed from 5 30 to 5 20, on orders from Dodge.
@thyhangman
@thyhangman Жыл бұрын
My 2013 1500 5.7 new to me in 2015 tick went away after switching to Amsoil 5w-30 and keeping it at the top mark on dipstick which actually requires about 1/3 qt more than the 7 qts called for. 155K miles.
@sgtmuffinbadger6147
@sgtmuffinbadger6147 Жыл бұрын
Yup same here
@kevinl498
@kevinl498 6 ай бұрын
I made this change about a month ago at my last oil change, it's fixed the "ticking" issue.... Amazing!!!
@patrickkernaghan7346
@patrickkernaghan7346 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir, very mucn!! I"m picking up my 2019 ram 1500 at a dealership here in Canada on Fri. And it definitley has then ticking sound. Thanks
@dozervin
@dozervin Жыл бұрын
I run 5-20 full synthetic in all my HEMIs. Ram 1500 has 195k on it. Grand Cherokee has 120k on it. Charger pursuit has 120k on it. All run awesome.
@williamsparks1521
@williamsparks1521 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. My purchased new 2012 RAM Laramie 1500 has 140,000 miles on the HEMI and still purrs like a kitten. I do change the oil every 3,000 miles. Regular oil.
@dozervin
@dozervin Жыл бұрын
@@williamsparks1521 I've always went full synthetic every 6000 miles. Wix xp oil filter.
@williamsparks1521
@williamsparks1521 Жыл бұрын
@@dozervin I've actually thought about it and never got around to it for reasons unknown. My RAM is simply an incredible vehicle.
@juanmikel7507
@juanmikel7507 Жыл бұрын
How’s your Ram running? I hear Ram trucks run great and last long even on high mileage. I fear my Ram will reach 200,000 miles in 4 years
@dozervin
@dozervin Жыл бұрын
@@juanmikel7507 My ole ram is still on the road. 198000 miles Just keep changing that oil. 5-20 full synthetic every 6000 miles
@PhatboyHD88
@PhatboyHD88 Жыл бұрын
My cousin has a jeep with the hemi in it , it also has the hemi tic , i just sent him this video. Thanks for the advice👍
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
These Hemis and their tics. Mine has crabs.
@williammathew9162
@williammathew9162 Жыл бұрын
I only put 5w-20 AMSOIL XL with a Royal Purple filter in my wife’s 2017 Durango R/T. It has 85k miles on it now and has never had a tick. Quality full synthetic oil and a good filter make all the difference in the world
@douglasshriver52
@douglasshriver52 Жыл бұрын
you are correct . I used redline 5w - 20 oil , oil change every 3000 miles . sweet engine .
@supermopar7497
@supermopar7497 2 ай бұрын
I took his advice. 017 withe a 392. Had cold stars tic. With 0-40. Went to 5-30. Best move I’ve made on truck. Great advice.
@BlackHawkPSU
@BlackHawkPSU Жыл бұрын
I admit I don't know much about this particular situation, but I find it hard to believe that this motor is the same as it was 20 years ago. With that said, I would say that the engineers do know more despite what's said in the video. In my experience I can clearly hear a difference between Mobil 1 and Valvoline. Valvoline made my engine much quieter and it was still 0W20. Oils with a high moly concentration are supposed to make engines quieter. Valvoline Extended Protection would be one of those with the moly.
@richarddonegan4666
@richarddonegan4666 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2021 RAM ProMaster last year as Thor Rize was my Camper Van choice. And it ran really good after I put in really good oil, put a K&N air filter and ran Lucas fuel stabilizer in it!!!!
@raywagner8016
@raywagner8016 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it has made a difference or not but I've always added 1 liter of diesel spec oil for all my gas engines at oil change and haven't had any issues. And a lifter from an '04 Hemi will fit and work in an '09 and later Eagle Hemi. So no, they weren't specifically designed for the zero weight oil.
@ThePeavey23
@ThePeavey23 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 hemi ram I bought with 12,000miles now has 118,000 never ticked besides the manifolds been running 5w30 with 1/4 bottle of Lucus oil stabler every 4500-5000 miles
@DopaSlides
@DopaSlides 11 ай бұрын
What a shame, all this work and time and you couldn't post the pudding!! We would love to hear the tickfree hemi!! ❤
@BBD40
@BBD40 3 ай бұрын
It works. I’ve been running 5w30 now for long enough to convince myself. Hemi tick is gone using 5w30
@arthursmith643
@arthursmith643 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Informative with a good clear voice no crappy music in the background. 5W/30 won’t hurt anything. The W stands for winter. The oil will be thin for starting in winter but thickens with heat. Napa oil is blended by Valvoline specs. Look on the back of the jug. Walmart full synthetic oil is excellent oil. Blended by Warren oil company. A very reparable company. He’s right don’t fall for pretty bottles and logos. Watch on KZbin . Conventional oil vs synthetic a lab owner sets us straight. Lab guys use what’s on sale. Best oil is clean oil.I change my oil and filter when I can’t see my oil dip stick level lines through the oil. Over fifty five years of doing it this way and never ever had an engine problem. Hey but what do I know. 😁
@jarretolsen2771
@jarretolsen2771 Жыл бұрын
Mine has the tick, but it’s actual lifter failure. Went from 5w-20 to 30 and no difference. Putting in new cams, lifters, timing chain, shorty headers and exhaust in a couple weeks. She will be right!
@jamiedinkins8593
@jamiedinkins8593 Жыл бұрын
I hear if you bolt on a hellcat oil pump it fixes it. It runs at a higher oil pressure. Keeps the lifters lubricated at idle.
@matthewmiller2268
@matthewmiller2268 Жыл бұрын
@@jamiedinkins8593 I have heard the same from another hemi mechanic here on KZbin.
@timg185
@timg185 Жыл бұрын
Just a word of caution. If it’s been running like this for a while. Your cam is probably destroyed and there’s probably metal shavings throughout the engine. I’ve seen engines broken down and the rod bearing , main bearings and cam bearing are destroyed. Maybe cut your oil filter open and see how much metal is in there.
@jarretolsen2771
@jarretolsen2771 Жыл бұрын
@@timg185 it’s already been done months ago. Running like a top, and oil is perfect at every oil change. It was only one lifter that was faulty, and barely. I’m just very aware of noises. Thanks though
@timg185
@timg185 Жыл бұрын
@@jarretolsen2771 👍
@eazer10666
@eazer10666 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try this out soon. 15K miles on my 22 Ram Hemi. I hear the damn tick at low RPMs.
@daveivins5968
@daveivins5968 Жыл бұрын
Just remember if your vehicle is new and under warranty..always use recommended oil weight in owners manual, there goal is try to find ways not to cover it, if they investigate and find wrong oil was used your SOL
@kevinscruggs730
@kevinscruggs730 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You just answered 3 questions I have been seeking the answers for awhile.
@hientruong4074
@hientruong4074 Жыл бұрын
I’d say run 0w-30 for even better cold start performance in the winter and use 5w-30 in the summer.
@cnfrisch
@cnfrisch Жыл бұрын
I use 6 1/2 quarts of 5W-20 Full Synthetic Castrol Edge Titanium Oil and STP Synthetic Oil Treatment (15 oz.) and no ticking whatsoever.
@dang5553
@dang5553 Жыл бұрын
The issue is not the lifter. This has been brought up many times. One person talk about camshafts failure like failed heat treatment than flake off the lobe into the lifter. Your idea is spot on if that roller is finds a thin spot on a lobe the roller could go through and tick. Sound advice in this video
@ronfellowsz0657
@ronfellowsz0657 8 ай бұрын
You can also run a 0W-30 as well to get the cold weather protection on cold start. Heck, 0W-40 would work well too!
@markwarnberg9504
@markwarnberg9504 7 ай бұрын
I´v read that such a wide span of Viscosity makes it hard for the oil to STAY IN GRADE! It might be due to the additive package being unable to work as well as with a shorter grade of oil like 5w-30 - 10w-40 - 15w-40
@DanielGarcia-zz9eg
@DanielGarcia-zz9eg Жыл бұрын
I use mobile 1 synthetic 6qts and 1qt of Lucas 203,000 miles and still going strong on my 09 from day 1 new
@mikedavis1626
@mikedavis1626 5 ай бұрын
I had a 2005 5.7 1500 2wd. Did this after my 3rd oil change. Great advice here people.
@blondebimbomarkus
@blondebimbomarkus Жыл бұрын
I basically agree. I nearly always use full synthetic 0w 40. I run it in everything from my motorcycles, to Japanese cars/trucks and now my 5.7 Chrysler car & truck. And way more important, I never ever wait 10k miles to change the oil! I always do mine within 5k miles. And on new vehicles absolutely no more than 1k miles for the 1st oil change. Fyi, Ive been a professional mechanic for over 10 years.
@barrymantei7795
@barrymantei7795 Жыл бұрын
Always do 5k oil changes
@JoseJimenez-xp2ym
@JoseJimenez-xp2ym 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 Ram 1500 5.7 ,I switch my oil after watch this video with 98,000 miles. Now the truck has 124,000 miles and is running like new, you can feel the engine very smooth and no sounds snd clicking noises at all. I use now 5-30 Pennzoil high mileage full synthetic every 4,000 miles and every 8,000 add a liquid molly oil additive, is like a wax. My engines performance is great right now.
@juststeve7665
@juststeve7665 Жыл бұрын
My 07 Hemi Megacab had very bad valvetrain rattle when cold with 0w20 Mobile 1... I switched to 5w30 Redline and the problem is gone. Non-MDS and gets 15mpg on level highway at 65 mph with 2 passengers and 300 lbs of tools onboard... 9 to 11 mpg off road or towing. You're right about the quality of the filter making a big difference in instant cold oil pressure too. Now if I could keep those exhaust manifold bolts from snapping repeatedly I'd be happy.
@rebelcowboy5.7l98
@rebelcowboy5.7l98 Жыл бұрын
U can. Make the face of the manifold perfectly flat by sanding or machining it after it already warped. Theres a couple videos on it. Also use so 10.9 or 12.9 bolts.
@TheRamGuy
@TheRamGuy Жыл бұрын
Why would you have ran 0w 20 in an '07. Makes no sense because it called for 5w30
@johnbeaudry9340
@johnbeaudry9340 Жыл бұрын
Need to just put shortie headers on it and never worry about the bolts again !
@johngarner9929
@johngarner9929 Жыл бұрын
My 2015 Ram’s lifters started going bad at 78k - problem was I allowed to engine to run at idle for 5 to 10 minutes each morning. At 130K two lifters failed. Best truck I ever owned - plan to buy another Ram with the new engine. Ran 5W30 the entire time and changed the oil every 5K.
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 Жыл бұрын
It’s idling not the oil that kills the lifters and I suspect part quantity issues. I have a 2015 hemi ram 144k have run 5w20 the whole time.
@racekar80
@racekar80 Жыл бұрын
Same as my 5.7 Ford, 5W-30 since the first oil change and it’s going on 200,000 miles. Many of these engines were developed for heavier oil but were overruled by corporate average economy standards.
@johnf.6942
@johnf.6942 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did on my 5.7. Full synthetic but I’m using 5w 20 , no tick no nothing.. good video..
@Moment2Forever
@Moment2Forever Жыл бұрын
Wow that's crazy that they would rather have their engine self destruct than upset the EPA
@underscr0e
@underscr0e Жыл бұрын
Also oil change interval length….should be 3000-3500 miles, not what the manufacturer recommends…lol all about making things look better, they don’t care if your engine fails after warranty.
@Tricolor610
@Tricolor610 Жыл бұрын
Hi .. my 392 2020 Challenger ScatPack HEMI ticks from the first day … and then I use 10w60 Castrol … the ticking is gone …. runs great very often full speed on German Autobahn… I use it for years in all my cars …also in my 2007 Audi A6 3,0 TDI ( Diesel) … , 1,8t New Beetle and in my IROC Camaro… Greeting from Germany
@JsGarage
@JsGarage Жыл бұрын
In my 14’ I’ve been running 5w-20 full synthetic since day one and never have valve train noise. I now have a passenger side exhaust manifold to replace causing some cold start up noise but that’s it. I know the heavy duty application of the 5.7L said 5w-30 never personally felt I needed to run it. Worth a shot I guess if you’re hearing noise.
@floydlarken3148
@floydlarken3148 Жыл бұрын
My 6.4 hemi makes noise on the passenger side under the truck and it sounds like exhaust or exhaust manifold noise and it goes away after about 30 seconds. Chrysler replaced the whole bank of lifters and it didn’t make one bit of difference. I have just learned to live with it
@watchman11000
@watchman11000 Жыл бұрын
@@floydlarken3148 Its broken exhaust manifold bolts, mostly goes away after cold start as the metal manifold swells with heat. After having to weld my broken bolts out of the heads I put a straight edge on the manifolds and found they were warped severely. This is common to all manufacturers according to the vids I've been seeing on youtube. I bought new manifolds and gaskets on amazon, they were china made but were true to the straight edge and no more cold start ticking since. However my HEMI does sound like a rattly diesel when driving, maybe changing to thicker oil will help that.
@floydlarken3148
@floydlarken3148 Жыл бұрын
@@watchman11000 Thanks for the info I will have to check more deeply into that. Appreciate it.
@PapawCulberson
@PapawCulberson 4 ай бұрын
I have used Valvoline Full Synthetic for more than 30 years now - and have always run a slightly heavier weight oil due to my personal driving habits. Currently I daily drive a 2002 Suburban with 190K miles on a 5.3 and it runs as good as new. I have used 10w-30 in it since it was new. I have owned 2018 Silverado, 2015 Silverado, 2006 Silverado, 2002 Silverado, we currently have a 2023 Kia Soul and we run 5W30 in it with great results. We also use Wix XP oil filters as well. In 45 years of driving I have used synthetic engine oil with the best oil filter I could find and have never had an oil related engine failure. For the record I used Mobil 1 prior to using Valvoline Full Syn exclusively.
@jewllake
@jewllake Жыл бұрын
my 2018 6.2 Sierra takes 0w20 and it's like water. I live in a mild climate and have used 5w 20 instead. I've been thinking of going to 5w 30. I also started using Amsoil also.
@americancapitalist9094
@americancapitalist9094 Жыл бұрын
I have an 18’ 5.3 and the tick has always bothered me. With my warranty expiring soon I might do the same.
@Pickleram
@Pickleram Жыл бұрын
I switched too amsoil years ago in my ram 5 30
@scottpearce7466
@scottpearce7466 3 ай бұрын
I use Mobil1 5W30 full syn with premium filter in my FORD 2.0L, BUICK 3.6L, Dodge 5.2L, & 3.6L.
@moonwalker8172
@moonwalker8172 Жыл бұрын
I believe the startup tick is caused by the Mopar filter. I’ve owned three Hemi’s and they rarely have a lifter tick on startup after sitting for up to a few days. I bought two 2019 5.7 Hemi Rams and they both had lifter tick at startup a couple times a week. After I switched to Mobil 1 or K&N oil filters on the first oil change the startup tick went away. I think Mopar filters have a leaky anti drain valve. I use 5w20 Full Synthetic with no tick. Sold my 2012 at 175k with no tick. Still ran perfectly. I have used many brands of oil with similar results.
@stevefick3919
@stevefick3919 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've always used the MOPAR filter on mine. I'll try the Purolator or the WIX and see how they do. My 2016 has always had 5W20 synthetic. I'm going to try the 5W30 as well.
@GNX157
@GNX157 Жыл бұрын
I’d be more inclined to believe it was the filter as well, but to be sure I’d have said stay with moparfilter and try Mobil 1 synthetic 0w20 again, because essentially he changed two variables here where the tick vanished, the filter and the oil at the same time.
@christianluggert9052
@christianluggert9052 Жыл бұрын
I have had the startup tick with both Mopar as well as Napa Platinum oil filters. But it is not really doing that very often. Trying K&N now. We'll see what happens.
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 Жыл бұрын
Have a 2015 hemi ram 144k have run 5w20 the whole time. It’s not the oil it’s idling and part quality issues, you use the oil that reflects the duty cycle and climate you put it through.
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid Жыл бұрын
I have the 6.4 in a Challenger. Dodge recommends a 0w-40 for that, Pennzoil. Valvoline makes an oil that meets the spec (FCA Material Standard MS-12633) as does Schaefer. My only worry would be if the car is under warranty. People can run what they want, but if you go too far off the reservation, you may have issues with a claim. FWIW, the owners manual for my car lists 5w-20 for the 5.7 and 5w-30 for the 3.6. I just order the oil off Amazon ahead of time and I use the Mopar 899 filter. I change the oil every 5k miles or 6 months. Mine is a 1320, so it has the 8HP70, it's an auto, so it has MDS.
@josephpuchel6497
@josephpuchel6497 Жыл бұрын
Hello Would you use 5W30 in your 6.4 Hemi? I would love to try different viscosity in a full synthetic ( Amsoil ) providing better lubrication and stopping tick tick. Pennzoil 0w40 isn’t readily available in stores.
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid Жыл бұрын
@@josephpuchel6497 Nope. It's under warranty and Amsoil, no matter how good it is, isn't specified. I mean, as long as one uses the right viscosity and API specs, you're pretty much covered, but Dodge does have a specific spec they'd like people to use and there's only 3 companies that make it: Pennzoil, Valvoline and I think Schmitt's. You're going off reservation on two counts. That said, some have said that using the 6.2/hellcat oil pump fixes the problem. The way I look at it, as long as my powertrain is under warranty, I'll use what Dodge recommends as there's nothing for them to back out with if something blows up. I use the oil they recommend and actually change it a little sooner. Another point to look at is that 5W-30 is heavier when cold and lighter at operating temps. Is that really better? Probably not.
@chrispainter997
@chrispainter997 11 ай бұрын
@@nokoolaid any oil is going to be thicker when cold than it is at operating temp.
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid 11 ай бұрын
@@chrispainter997 And the relevance of that statement? Using heavier oil that specified for a particular engine can be a bad thing and lead to greater wear. In terms of the hemi tick, it's not from a viscosity issue, but oil flow at particular engine speeds and operating conditions and the overall design of the cam/lifters with that in mind. Some have found that the helllcat oil pump helps. It's higher volume. Of course it's your money.
@chrispainter997
@chrispainter997 11 ай бұрын
@@nokoolaid The problem with the hemi is, there are no oil journals for the cam. The oil is slung from the oil pan to the cam by the lobes on the crank. From my research, it is recommended to not idle for long periods of time, because unless you’re at roughly 1500 RPMs, you’re not slinging enough oil up there to keep things lubricated. From my experience, that appears to be true due to the fact, we had a lot of cam/lifter issues in the dodge pick ups where I worked due to the trucks idling for long periods of time. When you have a vehicle with long periods of idle time, between oil changes, the oil needs to be changed in hours, not mileage increments. So I don’t see how putting a high flow oil pump on a motor would just pump more oil out of the pan, and limit the amount of oil being able to be slung up to the cam and lifters.
@martinhenri9432
@martinhenri9432 6 ай бұрын
you might have a good point ,i never had a thick on my engine but since i went to the last oil change i now have one . thanks for the tip i will look that over ..
@marcusalex8533
@marcusalex8533 27 күн бұрын
Same here, after walmart changed my oil!
@TheNewenglandboys
@TheNewenglandboys Жыл бұрын
The Wix and Purolator oil filters do a great job of filtering. However, they can be too restrictive for the Hemi engine do to the lifters being so high up. You need instant flow especially in cold weather months. I use a K&N filter for two reasons. 1 it's less restrictive but still filters well. 2 it has a welded on 1" nut on the bottom for easy removal. Most any new filter will allow good flow for a while but when they begin to get dirty the tic will be back.
@dozervin
@dozervin Жыл бұрын
I live in the desert. Hardly ever gets below freezing. 👍
@Orr_s
@Orr_s Жыл бұрын
I was told Boss by purolator is the way to go especially for price but wondering if theyre too restrictive also…which K and N model do you use. I do Purolator Boss every 6k miles with Penzoil Ultra Plat. Or the gold label advanced synthetic from Valvoline…if the pureolator is good for 10-15k like it says (which id never go over 6500 with any filter or oil anyway) i wonder if flow is a non issue if im doing 6k interval changes?
@TheNewenglandboys
@TheNewenglandboys Жыл бұрын
@@Orr_s K&N 1017 for the 5.7 Hemi
@Orr_s
@Orr_s Жыл бұрын
@@TheNewenglandboys thanks!
@erickut677
@erickut677 7 ай бұрын
K&N performance gold and mobile 1 extended performance the two best high flowing oil filters Engine masters k&n was the best of the spin on type with mobile 1 not in there test in other test on KZbin mobile 1 extended performance oil filter beat k&n used k&n gold last 2 oil changes this one I’m using the mobile 1 and it was a few bucks cheaper 2
@michaelstout7652
@michaelstout7652 Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice…just basic common sense! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@jimm1234
@jimm1234 Жыл бұрын
i got rid of a hemi tick (only on startup) by treating my oil and gas with a can of seafoam after an oil change. stuff made a world of difference as u can actually hear it start working once added to your oil....this probably wont work if yours is very far gone or has been ignored. hope this helps someone
@petertensuda1192
@petertensuda1192 7 ай бұрын
Did you do this once or do you have to add it after every oil change?
@jimm1234
@jimm1234 7 ай бұрын
@@petertensuda1192 just changed my oil and I have not heard it at all but I suspect it coming back, 1/3 bottle of seafoam in the oil will be going into this oil change as soon as I get time
@Hans_P
@Hans_P 9 ай бұрын
Only drive my 17 Ram in the winter here in Canada after my Mustang gets stored. Ram is stored May to October. Using 0W20 Amsoil Signature oil. The Coyote engine in the Mustang ( 420hp) calls for 5W20 as well! Change it every 5,000 mikes ( 8,000 klm ) or less. Truck has 50,000 klm on it now and zero issues.
@chetlangford2144
@chetlangford2144 Жыл бұрын
#1 thing to do is to never let these engines idle for more than 4 mins. Just turn it off. Use good filters and heavy oil. Do a full flush every 30k. Change spark plugs to NGK . I like using amsoil.
@Searchin4tone
@Searchin4tone Жыл бұрын
Can't do that up north
@chetlangford2144
@chetlangford2144 Жыл бұрын
@@Searchin4tone what do you do...how far north
@Searchin4tone
@Searchin4tone Жыл бұрын
@Chet Langford Upstate NY. 2014 Ram 1500 Hemi with Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic 5w-20, K&N filter along with 5000 mile oil change intervals religiously. Truck has 125,000 miles and knock on wood no lifter tap/tick. Also, New York State Troopers use the Dodge Charger and we all know these vehicles idle 24/7. Maintenance division goes by idle hours for oil changes, not miles. If every cruiser failed due to idling, they would have gotten rid of the Charger. Yes, evidence is there for extended idling causing lifter failure but I believe oil changes before Rams recommend intervals can help.
@chetlangford2144
@chetlangford2144 Жыл бұрын
@@Searchin4tone we do every 3 but I meant to say was do a antifreeze flush every 30k
@wheels-n-tires1846
@wheels-n-tires1846 8 ай бұрын
I dont have a newer vehicle, but was on the verge of running a 5.7 Hemi in my 69 Dart, and itd of gotten the same oil ive run in everything for decades- the diesel-spec Chevron Delo 400. Its overkill, but its never failed me, even in high mileage engines, and its quieted older engines that were noisy when I got em. As a 20+yr diesel/heavy equipment mechanic, its been the choice of every big fleet ive worked on. My 99 Ram was neglected and abused when i got it, and I just hoped i could get 20k out of the noisy engine when i got it. 4yrs and 100k miles of hard use and towing later, it hit 250k yesterday, and is quiet as can be, still going strong. Good oil and 3000 mile oil changes make a big difference!!
@WBOS72
@WBOS72 Жыл бұрын
The 0W20 is to meet CAFE standards, nothing more.
@waldosniblets
@waldosniblets Ай бұрын
My 07 1500 5.7 Hemi does tick on startup, as does my 18 1500, but quiets down after 15 secs and no ticking can be heard on either one. I only use Penzoil or Mobile One 5W-20 Advanced Full Synthetic in my 18 Ram, but I have been using 10W-30 High Mileage Synthetic in my 07. Right now, I'm having overheating issues in my 07, but with 135,000 on my 18, it is still running strong. 💪🐏💪
@Maxwedge8263
@Maxwedge8263 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2006 Land Rover LR3 4.4, the oil I used was Castrol 5-w30 Edge and the engine ran great. But when I used the Land Rover oil from the dealership it ticked. Car manufacturers are using Thinner and Thinner oil I believe to reduce engine life. Thank You for the advice I’m going to change oil this weekend and I’ll use what I use to in the LR3.
@LinusScrubTips
@LinusScrubTips Жыл бұрын
It’s for mileage reasons. Thinner oil = less resistance = . 01 mpg better mileage. Bullshit. Run heavier oil in your engines for longer life.
@kodybracken518
@kodybracken518 7 ай бұрын
You are spot on … as a mechanic and someone who has an 03 hemi with 150 k I can agree 100
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
@JohnSmith-ev1sm Жыл бұрын
This isn't the classic hemi tick though, you're describing lifter bleed down and it's not "a problem", no damage is occurring (at least not fast enough to every worry about it). Hemi tick is usually the beginning of lifter failure; the needle bearings sieze up and begin to smash on the cam lobe instead of rolling over it. This is very worrisome and eventually your cam and lifter are toast needing thousands in a fix. Hemi tick is noticed on a warm/hot idle, it's not a tick you notice only for a few seconds on startup.
@virgilpalmer2427
@virgilpalmer2427 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@Alkatraz415
@Alkatraz415 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. My go to is Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and Purolator Boss filter. If not Ultra Platinum i try to get Valvoline Extended Protection or Restore and Protect. I have a fleet of about 10 vehicles and try to change oil every 5k miles.
@johnnyguzman8192
@johnnyguzman8192 Жыл бұрын
Im an avid follower and thank you for the good videos and the time you take to do them God bless
@mikehd3904
@mikehd3904 Жыл бұрын
gods a fairytale!
@roxiilife380
@roxiilife380 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Sir for this video I’m getting my oil changed right now and I said I want EXACTLY WHAT THIS MAN IS PUTTING in his truck! So I’ll give you an Update ❤
@-a-strikelures1212
@-a-strikelures1212 8 ай бұрын
And the update please
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 Жыл бұрын
Most Hemi’s have there own sound and a certain sound of lifter noise. I do use synthetic oil Pennzoil. No issue yet but I have 5W-20. I live in a very cold winter climate in 🇨🇦. 5w30 should work here I think but scared to try it. Maybe after my warranty is over I shall try it. 👍
@bbrown5887
@bbrown5887 Жыл бұрын
I would run the 5/30 in warm summer months and then a little thinner for cold winter months. That was a common thing we did at a garage I worked at in 1980 with various brands and years of vehicles. The tolerances weren’t quite as slim then however the heavier oil viscosity on very cold days had gas engines hammering like diesels for easily 15 to 30 seconds while the pump tried to push dam near grease viscosity liquid through the oil journals. I have an original 1968 Dodge engine in my garage that’s never been rebuilt, doesn’t smoke or hammer. It was treated to the seasonal variety oil changes. Thinner winter, thicker summer.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 Жыл бұрын
@@bbrown5887 Makes sense B Brown. I used to use 10W-30 back in the day for summer and reduce to thinner oil in winter. Now just 5w30 straight through
@josephpuchel6497
@josephpuchel6497 Жыл бұрын
I thought being a full synthetic oil like Amsoil it wouldn’t get too thick like in severe cold days.
@elihernandez330
@elihernandez330 10 ай бұрын
The 5.7 runs really hot. Oil temps regularly get to 220 or more just driving on the highway on a regular day. The hotter the oil gets the thinner it gets.
@adamrodenberg1557
@adamrodenberg1557 Жыл бұрын
My 6.4 hemi in a 2019 Challenger without MDS (manual transmission) had a really loud tick at only 2500 miles. I noticed the same thing when draining out the original 0w40 synthetic that it looked like water. I visualized it all running back to the pan as soon as you shut engine off. Since then, I've been adding a bottle of STP oil treatment to it when I change the oil. The idea I thought might help is that it adds some "stickiness" to the oil and allow it to have a film of oil cling to the parts. It's been running quiet ever since with no other issues.
@mrhyde0705
@mrhyde0705 Жыл бұрын
Look for Redline oil. Little pricey but its designed for go fast cars. It also doesnt sheer as much as the off the shelf stuff.
@Clamjammer
@Clamjammer Жыл бұрын
I use valvoline 5w20 plus stp oil treatment. Think it’s a blue bottle but the fluid is thick! Anyway yeah it helps tremendously with the rattling ticking bullshit.
@ernestoyorba7813
@ernestoyorba7813 Жыл бұрын
So you still kept the 0w40 just added stp? If so what kind exactly? I’m in the same boat you were
@adamrodenberg1557
@adamrodenberg1557 Жыл бұрын
@@ernestoyorba7813 I'm still running 0w40 for now because I already had it, but now I'm thinking about using 5w40 next time I change it... Just regular STP oil treatment is what I'm using. STP has worked great in many of my old worn-out classic cars for years keeping them on the road, reduces blow-by and oil consumption, and keeps engines quiet.
@CarveLife
@CarveLife 7 ай бұрын
@@adamrodenberg1557have you tried it? I’m thinking about it for my 6.4
@ronphillips8941
@ronphillips8941 7 ай бұрын
I agree 100% so I always replace one quart of oil with Lucas HD oil stabilizer in every oil change in every vehicle I own. I have done that for years and it includes all my tractors. I use 20% Lucas HD oil stabilizer in my mowers, atv's, side by side UTV's, and all other four cycle small engines as well.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 Жыл бұрын
Hey can we hear the sound of your engine? Cold start and up close and personal.
@dslfrk59
@dslfrk59 Жыл бұрын
Same thing with my kia hybrid. 1.6 4cyl turbo they want 0w-20. Has valve clatter. Switched to 5w-30 and all gone. Plus you'd think with a small turbo engine with higher pressures and temps you'd want the 5w-30 standard.
@TheCompyshop
@TheCompyshop Жыл бұрын
This is problematic on your car because it's a hybrid. You want thin oil on a hybrid because it's going to do a lot of cold starts. You're prematurely wearing your engine using the heavy oil. Also don't use aftermarket oil filters on those Kias. Only use OEM filters from the dealer. I don't know why, but in my experience Hyundai/Kia products with aftermarket filters produces top end noise. Every time I buy one I put the OEM filter on them, the noise goes away
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 3 ай бұрын
Do not put 0w 20 oil into any engine. Unless it has specs of less than 2,000 of an inch for oil passage, you cannot get by with that there is not enough film strength in 0w 20 or any of those water oils. I had a 2007 300C and a 2009 300C at the same time, both black both blacked out windows . They ran great. A big deal here, never put standard plugs in a hemi. Put iridium spark plugs in this Mercedes inspired engine, and you will get better fuel mileage guaranteed. My 2009 when I put Bosch iridium plugs in it, driving down Woodward Avenue was getting 45 Mi per gallon. The mileage went up markedly. Always run at least half a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil about a week before you do an oil change to keep the inside of that engine spotless. And regularly like every other time you drive it you have to get the revs up over $2,000 to 2200 RPM to get enough oil up onto the lifters to not fail. Why they never put oil squirters to make sure they got oil on those lifters I don't know, obviously I think they hired some old General Motors Engineers who didn't think that oil on camshafts or proper hardening of camshafts was an important issue. I've only been wrenching on cars since 1964. Maybe I haven't learned a thing. Another neat trick with any engine is what about half a quart or even a full court in some of these high Reserve oil pens. The seals in the engine will love it.
@Taterchip871
@Taterchip871 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% and run 0w-30 in my 2021 ram. Smoother and got rid of the ticking that the 20wt oil had. My pentastar cherokee sees the same oil as well. The 0w-20 and 0w-16 oils is just manufacturers chasing fractions of mpg's.
@Orr_s
@Orr_s Жыл бұрын
Would it be more beneficial going to a 5W30 oil instead of the 5W20 my Ram Limited 5.7 etorque reccomends? Or should i go to 0w30…jus wondering if thats still too thin for the hot summers here and the cold winters, where as the 5w30 would be overall more well rounded of an oil for all seasons
@Taterchip871
@Taterchip871 Жыл бұрын
@DirtyOrr#4 If you can go with a 0w-30 that would be better than a 5w-30. Both are 30wt oils but have different anti thickening agents in them. Both should act the same at operating temp but the 0w will act as a zero weight does when it is 32 degrees out. When you look at oil the second number is the actual weight of the oil the first number with the W is how it acts at 0C or 32F. I have had good luck in mine with the 0w-30 less ticking at start up and better film strength at running temp.
@Orr_s
@Orr_s Жыл бұрын
@@Taterchip871 okay sweet. Thank you! Now im kicking myself going with 5W20 for my first oil change ive done on it, since its warming up here now quite a bit. But i did go with the pureolator boss and Valvoline Advanced protection full synth of course
@Taterchip871
@Taterchip871 Жыл бұрын
@DirtyOrr#4 one oil change isn't going to hurt. From here on out you can go with a 30 wt oil. Also to note I have noticed no difference with the 0w-30 for the mds system.
@Orr_s
@Orr_s Жыл бұрын
@@Taterchip871 good to know. From here out im going to run 0-30 Penzoil ultra plat. then, seeing as that will improve winter startups and wont have to bounce back and forth from 5-20 to 5-30 for seasons. Hopefully can still find at walmart as easy. What filter do you like? I read really good things about purolator one and boss filtration, but also heard the flow rate isnt as good for these engines and their lifters due to the oil pump and how far up the lifters are. My first Ram truck and i love my Limited. But always been a GM guy especially with the muscle cars
@dh4094
@dh4094 5 ай бұрын
What I find crazy is why people even care about the tick. Mine had been ticking for 120k miles. 0 issues
@radoliz2
@radoliz2 Жыл бұрын
The higher viscosity will also protect the timing chain guides better.
@josemaisonet1182
@josemaisonet1182 Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my 2018 ram! It was driving me crazy!! I thought it was the manifold the lifters!! Make a long story short I did the same thing what you did. And sure enough the tick went away!! 90,000 miles later runs and purrs like a dream!! No problem since!!!
@jeep4752
@jeep4752 Жыл бұрын
An oil filter with an anti drain back valve in it has gotta help this issue too.
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