Agreed ... Just really wish they offered the OG w/o auto start / stop or E-torque
@Bradimus16 ай бұрын
Not a chance - and I have the Hemi now.
@Blitzkrieg.u8126 ай бұрын
@@RotaxXS... not a smart comment..
@RotaxXS6 ай бұрын
@@Blitzkrieg.u812 how so?
@lilman2276 ай бұрын
I really like the I6 engines. Boosted I6 engines have always had a special place in my heart from the 2JZ to the diesel Cummins. I just wish they kept the Hemi as an option or something
@302Mustang136 ай бұрын
Just can't trust any engine from Stellantis. It needs time to prove itself for truck duty. Grand Wagoneer likely rarely performs towing or hauling more than a few people.
@lilman2276 ай бұрын
@@302Mustang13 We have a customer with a Grand Wagoneer at a detail shop, and she’s been loving it so far. It hasn’t been long enough for me to comment on reliability just yet. I’m hoping for the best though
@302Mustang136 ай бұрын
@@lilman227 I'm sure it's likable, just not feeling it for going the distance. That and I bet those turbos are expensive to replace.
@bubbleman20026 ай бұрын
@@302Mustang13 It has to tow and haul its chassis. That shit is obnoxiously heavy, 6,400lbs. Add a few obese children and that's more than enough load on the engine for it to have proven itself.
@karlschauff79896 ай бұрын
The 5.7 Hemi could have continued on but they really blew it when they decided to kick the can down the road and not modernize the 5.7 Hemi for the 2019 model year. They could have easily updated it with direct injection, a little more compression, and a revised cam to improve emissions and fuel efficiency. Look at GM, they're still making pushrod 16 valve V8's and announced that they are developing the next gen V8 for their trucks. I don't see why FCA/Stellantis couldn't have done the same.
@KubanKevin6 ай бұрын
There’s been plenty of innovation to N/A engines. The problem here isn’t the manufacturers. It’s the EPA. a smaller turbo charged engine consuming the same or slightly better MPG is going to score better on the emissions tests. This is why ESS is a thing even on Ferrari now.
@C-M-E6 ай бұрын
Nailed it right there. Most vehicles with former low stress V8s will outlast turbo V6s by a wide margin, and the fuel economy is rated right at that same V8 for normal driving or even worse when pulling cargo/towing. The emissions are what are driving cylinder reduction in engine options. Manufacturers were buying carbon credits prior to adopting turbocharged engines, but that's going away too.
@karlschauff79896 ай бұрын
@@C-M-E That all depends on how the engine is built. A turbo gas engine built with nodular iron cylinder liners, forged pistons, forged rods, forged crankshaft, beefy crank bearings and bearing caps... that engine can easily match the longevity of an engine like the 5.7 Hemi.
@MRChief-uh6el6 ай бұрын
Fax
@roddycreswell86136 ай бұрын
Doesn’t equal sales. They can keep them.
@PsalmFourteenOne6 ай бұрын
@@C-M-E "Carbon Credits" Damn dude. Start the next revolution already. Enough of that BS
@stephenbleakley86092 ай бұрын
I had a 2018 RAM with the 5.7 HEMI for the past 6 years and just traded in for a 2025 RAM with the I6 about 2 weeks ago. Loving it so far. Although I miss that HEMI purr, I can get used to the quietness and smoothness of this I6! Probably one of the best comparisons out there. Great job, man, thanks for the review and video!
@tylerburns54062 ай бұрын
Same boat here, miss the HEMI but I’ll get used to it. Just need to go get an older V8 toy now to supplement 😂
@avl10043Ай бұрын
You could work the crap out of the 5.7 V8 and still make 250K plus with very few repairs. I just feel you putting a lot of stress on that small 3.0L. Time will tell.
@MeatPez5 ай бұрын
So happy to see straight 6’s making a comeback just in general. They aren’t pretty or masculine in sound, but they make up for that in torque, low end, and reliability.
@bobhirdes67255 ай бұрын
without twin turbo chargers the straight six would be left in the dust.
@sgunsior4 ай бұрын
There used to be an entire room at the BMW museum in Munich showing off how great inline 6s were from an engine design standpoint. BMW got their start making inline 6 aircraft engines for WWI German airplanes. They are really nice engines - preferable to a V6 IMHO.
@bonecrusher29866 ай бұрын
Hemi all day long!
@blackericdenice6 ай бұрын
The inline 6 is a hemi.
@Deke16 ай бұрын
@@blackericdenice no it's not
@RoadieWingZZ6 ай бұрын
@@blackericdenice🤣🙄😳😳😳😳😳
@blackericdenice6 ай бұрын
@@Deke1 Yes it is. It has a hemispherical combustion chamber. They don't call it that but it is. As a matter of fact, the 3.6 v6 is also a hemi.
@bmartin8636 ай бұрын
Slap a tuned twin turbo set up on the hemi and the power shoots up . Tune it for fuel efficiency and it still has more power. Ya it may cost more in the end for what you’d be paying but in the end a N/A Hemi is leagues ahead for easily adding more power and Trucks are not for commuting. They are intended for work. That’s why this is happening to us . We are not using them for work and the industry has realized that. I still say the inline six will wear out sooner than a V8 .
@jamesmcallen33546 ай бұрын
The innovation I want to see from manufacturers is a modern Diesel engine that won’t destroy itself with EGR and other emissions equipment. The EcoDiesel had enough noise to make me happy, it can easily get 25mpg combined in the real world. The problem is all the issues the engine has
@Marvin-fn7ks6 ай бұрын
I am a diesel fan . I had a 2016 eco and now have a 2020. Right now my EGR is stuck closed and am waiting for parts . I think the mileage is a bit less but part of me would like to leave the EGR stuck . I do believe the gen 3 solved a lot of issues and I would like to own this truck for a long time. Someone should have bought BMW’s inline 6 diesel as it was a great engine.
@jamesmcallen33546 ай бұрын
@@Marvin-fn7ks at 88,000 miles, the intake manifold on my 2016 EcoDiesel got clogged with wet soot and Ram refused to cover the repairs under the class action lawsuit settlement extended warranty. I believe Diesel is superior to gasoline, it’s a tragedy that the American government hates them
@jamesmcallen33546 ай бұрын
@@Marvin-fn7ks at 88,000 miles, the intake manifold on my 2016 EcoDiesel got clogged with wet soot and Ram refused to cover the repairs under the class action lawsuit settlement extended warranty. I believe Diesel is superior to gasoline, it’s a tragedy that the American government hates them
@keithwarstler95006 ай бұрын
Duramax 3.0. I love mine and with a 2 inch lift (Trailboss model) with all terrain tires I get 26 to 27 regularly. Best ever is 31 mpg. 22 in City all day long. Others without factory lift get 30 + regularly. So far no emission issues but they are reported from time to time. Can you imagine small displacement with diesels in cars the kind of mileage we could get? EVs are a joke. America - the Land of the Stupid!
@contractor5566 ай бұрын
So what I’m hearing is…. Abolish the three letter agencies
@jivetalk10456 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 RAM Longhorn Limited with the 5.7 liter HEMI eTorque. I love the truck. Great review, young man.
@FritzysGarage3 ай бұрын
That's the exact trim I am looking at in 24' (last year of Hemi w/etorque). How do you like it thus far? Any issues? Problem I am finding is in order to equip it how I want (ram box, pano sunroof, split tailgate, 4 corner airbags etc the payload is 1200lbs or less which is too low for me. Do you mind sharing how yours is equipped & your tire pressure sticker payload number?
@Redfour56 ай бұрын
I know you live in Salt Lake "I believe." Your observation on altitude is a key imho. I live in MT at 4500 feet. The turbo advantage in the mountains would be nice over my Hemi's but...
@wills451023 күн бұрын
I’ve driven both and just bought a 25 ram with the hurricane V6. The engine is better in every way, except for sound.
@SliderFury16 ай бұрын
You will tow nothing and you will be happy.
@musicandfender5 ай бұрын
Ram 1500 Soylent Edition
@bobluthart46814 ай бұрын
Tell us you know nothing about torque and HP, without actually telling us. LMAO
@kuraryuX4 ай бұрын
Or gearing or tire size and width😂@@bobluthart4681
@joebiker59924 ай бұрын
An inline 6 will always tow better than a V8. Always.
@davidcarder63644 ай бұрын
Wrong @@joebiker5992
@fordmuscleluis97106 ай бұрын
Super nice comparison between these two one is a 3.0 hurricane Inline 6 which is 6 inches long and the outgoing 5.7 Hemi
@JB_WhoWork6 ай бұрын
Thanks bro!
@alexwhitley51956 ай бұрын
My 2019 RAM has a Borla ATAK on it. She loud, and I'm going to miss the shit out of that sound when I do eventually get another truck. I've been super happy with this truck, so I plan on getting another RAM. That RHO might be in my future if this HO engine proves to be reliable. I'm in no hurry.
@SAMI-SEM-9976 ай бұрын
I want a ram too
@rodphilpot37846 ай бұрын
I have the ATAK on my 2023 Ram and I love it.. that sound is masculine, lol!
@stoveguy21336 ай бұрын
Hoo wee, hot damn. Redneck.
@InsomniaReal6 ай бұрын
dont hold your breathe on the I6 the chances its gonna be reliable are slim at best they just did a test run with them on the drag strip in a challenger and they had to replace the engine in less than 20 minutes
@BlackRam176 ай бұрын
I just deleted my muffler and it sounds great with the remaining resonators
@xrwby15425 ай бұрын
2009 Ram1500 5.7 v8 has 220,000 ml and is still running but I did change timing chain, and oil pump at 100,000 If you do oil change and maintain a vehicle they’ll last you a long time
@mdocod6 ай бұрын
I enjoy the 3.0L inline turbo 6 cylinder in my S60 T6 very much. It's an "older tech" turbo making only 100HP/L from a less sophisticated turbo and fuel system (port injected), but it's an absolute pleasure to drive. Near turbine smooth, power all over the RPM range, no vibration or noise. I would be the type who would probably prefer the inline 6, especially living at 7400ft elevation. The power advantages at high elevation are startling. I get 0-60 times up here that aren't far off what these do near sea-level.
@robertmitchell92766 ай бұрын
I moved from BMW to Volvo to live in a better area. Those I6 turbo S60’s were awesome. I had a chance to rip on an S60 Polestar. I’d take it over a 340i in a heartbeat back then. Special!
@rocavelli206 ай бұрын
aye factory port injection is better for mods anyway
@dylanmijer28904 ай бұрын
Having the camera eyeing the Ram Promaster while lining it up with the Ram1500 is gold👌🏾
@casmithc26 ай бұрын
Great comparison! Thank you for investing in high tech equipment. It makes your videos better!
@turboash786 ай бұрын
Manufacturers drooling to replace these over boosted small engines in 5 to 7 years at buyer's cost!
@briancavanaugh76045 ай бұрын
Super duper environmentally friendly to replace all those engines at short life intervals to boot! YAY for useful idiots.
@blackericdenice6 ай бұрын
I bought a 2016 F150 2.7 ecoboost new. The truck now has 101,000 miles. The only problem I have had was a bad cylinder head temp sensor @ 69,000 miles. This happen on a Sunday so I bought the $20 part from Autozone. When you first drive an ecoboost. You will put your foot in it and you are not going to get great mpg. After you learn not to get deep into boost. You will get better mpg than a v8. I don't have any problems towing when I need to.
@spartanboss41896 ай бұрын
Inline sixes always had a good track record in trucks, hope this one continues that trend
@vinmangob85556 ай бұрын
Hemi, true and tested, this new engine, good luck. Sane mileage.
@NoLimitsCommemorativ6 ай бұрын
People will keep leasing these, it's a great design with the exception of it not having port injection. Just buy a 2500 and get the 6.4 which is a much better build vs the 5.7 and doesn't get all the EPA bs regulations the 1500 are subjected to.
@frankmc51125 ай бұрын
@@AZFarmFun-hp1cu Yeah, but why are you using a truck as a commuter vehicle. I pretty much hate trucks anymore due to the fact people buy them to fit a particular image. Let's face it. No one is taking their $50 to $80k truck and filling it full of gravel or cement bags and using it to work with. So, it's kind of dumb to by something that is the equivalent of block going down the road and having the expectation of it getting great gas mileage. If I'm paying that much for the vehicle, why am I going to worry about gas mileage. Get a 2005 Corolla and save your money.
@briancavanaugh76045 ай бұрын
@@frankmc5112 Heaven forbid others have preferences that don't align with what you want them to do, what a good little comrade you are! NO ONE needs to justify a damn thing to you nor does anyone need you deciding what they do or don't need in life. Get fcked.
@toledojeeper29324 ай бұрын
I have owned 2 of them and while the 2500 is great for towing it rides like a lumber wagon.
@NoLimitsCommemorativ4 ай бұрын
@@toledojeeper2932 I agree, I wish they had IFS like the Chevy's 2500 but I can't come to grips with Chevrolet/GMC exterior design and interior comfort. I prefer Ford's and Rams interiors, but you can also find more Rams certified preowned for a better price I notice. One thing for sure is I won't buy a truck for more than 45k- I take care of mine but they take a beating with my work.
@ken2tou5 ай бұрын
I have a 2013 Ram 5.7 HEMI. This truck has been a solid performer. At 71k miles right now. My truck has a modified S&B cold air intake, a 48mm throttle body and an Edge tuner. It’s enough for me. Great, dependable driver. BRING BACK THE HEMI!
@ammogiant8245 ай бұрын
48mm t body. Did you mean a 84?
@crisjr64784 ай бұрын
That’s a throttle body for a Kia. 😂😂😂
@vertstang1236 ай бұрын
The noise level was interesting, I just happened to check that on my 2023 Gladiator Rubicon this morning. With the meter (phone app) in a mount attached to the dash, at 70 mph the reading was 70db. I feel like that's a damn good number for a Jeep.
@KubanKevin6 ай бұрын
I have the same truck as you. I have slightly more noise because I have the manual which is a noisy gearbox but yes, the secret to them being this quiet is the magic of the Falken Wildpeak AT3s
@leedanielson74526 ай бұрын
Great review! I wonder what aftermarket muffler would sound good on the hurricane??? On my Hemi I went with a Flowmaster 40 and it sounds great even though I would like it a little bit louder lol
@leedanielson74525 ай бұрын
@tdub2888 🤣🤣🤣
@peterj57516 ай бұрын
I’m not sure I would equate the turbo 6 as being ‘woke’. Soulless, yes, but not woke. For the record, I’d also have the Hemi by choice.
@SilverBackELTorro6 ай бұрын
It's definitely Woke. Neutered and woke. Shmdh
@robsolf5 ай бұрын
If you don't like something, that means it's woke.
@briancavanaugh76045 ай бұрын
@@robsolf While I don't think the engine itself is "woke" I do think the ideology and the useful idiots that propagate it are woke and this engine is the result of their "progress."
@The_Painter316 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 RAM 1500 Classic Warlock Edition with Hemi and 3.92 gears, the only mod I did was a full K&N filter and I love the MDS because at 74mph I'm getting 29 MPG. I love the launch with those gears and I leave the Tow/Haul mode all the time because with braking it gears down and slows me down quicker. I don't have to worry about range either with a 32 gallon tank.
@robertahrens48206 ай бұрын
My 04 Ram 1500 5.7 gets 16.3 mpg in the winter and up to 18 mpg in summer it has 3.91 anti spin differential 2100 rpm at 75 mph
@AndyE306 ай бұрын
What the hell is an "anti spin differential"?
@jaymoe5.76 ай бұрын
@@AndyE30 limited slip diff. That's just what Chrysler calls it on their order forms.
@1gr8oil5 ай бұрын
@robertahrens4820..............I have a 2020 RAM REBEL with the HEMI 5.7 and I never get over 14 MPG! I have the 3.92 Diff. I LOVe the truck, but the MPG SUCKS!!
@Luv2camp3165 ай бұрын
2016 ram with the 5.7. Tows my 6500 pound trailer no problem. 122000 miles and I can get over 20MPG in summer. Solid performer and no huge issues. I will take it all day long
@jaymoe5.75 ай бұрын
@@1gr8oil my 2012 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi gets 15/16mpg around town and 18-20mpg on the highway. I have 3.92 gears in mine as well and I only have the 6 speed transmission, so I wonder why your Rebel gets such bad mileage??
@JoseRodriguez-mp1bl4 ай бұрын
I got a 180 degree thermostat, tuned it, transmission bypass valve, and took off the radiator grill shutters on my 2019 classic 5.7 hemi. It never gets above 185 degrees even when it is hot and my transmission runs 25 degrees cooler with the $45 bypass valve. I’ll take my hemi any day over this V6 twin turbo.
@williammorgan59876 ай бұрын
My Hemi 0-60 was 5 seconds on the money with 35” tires. Did the work in my driveway to accomplish it. I’ve got an HO Cummins I’m tinkering with now, I’m really happy they are making this inline 6 half ton. Dodge had inline 6 gas engines for a long time and were very reliable
@mayckelrodriguez84615 ай бұрын
I'm a truck driver and I tell you the inline six with twin turbos can be very reliable.. Now I own a 2022 with the 5.7 and it's been flawless but I would definitely try that online 6 must be fun..
@kotzulla2 ай бұрын
i thought you should be an engine engineer to say so... but i now im think middle school education of truck driver is enough to make statements like dis...
@mayckelrodriguez8461Ай бұрын
@kotzulla Do you think truck drivers don't have college degrees.. Well let me educate you some of us have college degrees but we make more money as truck drivers.. And when you are going to reply yo a comment on you tube try not to be so ignorant..
@Rocky_Aspen60216 ай бұрын
First time watching ur vid and I don’t regret it at all, ur entertaining, funny, love ur way of thinking and comments about things, def gonna have to subscribe fss
@DouwGSteyn6 ай бұрын
Unique camera mounting point is great! Your better understanding of what’s important in reviews is refreshing. Interesting is the SST oil pressure is way lower on the Hemi.
@leemillard80686 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to see what kind of temps the hurricane would be showing if you were working the truck hard (towing) and getting some heat soak with the turbos
@TomYarkosky-dm5rz5 ай бұрын
I love my 2018 hemi V8. The power and economy is amazing.
@boomattack026 ай бұрын
All that time and wasted energy to be slightly faster and barely more fuel efficient than the NA V8 originally designed over 2 decades ago….. marvelous work there Stellantis 🤦🏼♂️
@bzinnj16 күн бұрын
Good review. Hit all my questions! "No replacement for displacement..."
@Desmo15 ай бұрын
The big comparison is what TFL did, in that they took the two big V8's offered on FORD and GM pickups and compared the mpg to the new hurricane twin turbo on the Ram. The giant surprise is that the 6 did THE WORST out of the bunch. Same exact test and controlled environment for all 3.
@justinb.55612 ай бұрын
Gearing and tire weight. Not a fair test.
@jackhammer26716 ай бұрын
Just went out two weeks ago and bought a new 2024 Rebel with the Hemi V8 before they are all gone...I don't want no 6cyl in my full sized truck I don't care how much power they put out...that V8 sound you can't replace period.
@jamesmisener30066 ай бұрын
Excellent review mate. I like inline 6 cylinder engines. They are inherently smoother by design but a 3 liter turbo charged one worries me for the Long run. I can't see how they will be more durable and long lasting given the tasks trucks are asked to do. Cheers 🇨🇦
@STEWDEE6 ай бұрын
The engine has a cast aluminum block, cross-bolted steel main bearing caps, a forged steel crankshaft, and forged steel connecting rods. The block is the only thing that might be the weak link strength wise..
@gladegoodrich22976 ай бұрын
Owned a half dozen Ram trucks and loved everyone of them. Thought I would try a Ford EcoBoost and love it also. I do miss the sound of the Ram 5.7 though.🙄
@sgunsior4 ай бұрын
V8s have a special place in my heart - I have a Camaro SS 1LE with the LT1 and a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi. BUT - if we're gonna have to go to a six, and inline six is the way to go. Hard to believe Stellantis is getting 540 HP out of 3.0L in the high output hurricanes. Sounds like a really interesting engine.
@danshobbies136 ай бұрын
I would have preferred the old 4.0 I6 with an added turbo. I don’t know how I feel about a 3.0. I tow a 9,000 pound trailer, so I need the 3.92 rear.
@mrhuntmasterable6 ай бұрын
Gearing is very important I'd like to see the engines compared with equal gear ratios. That 0 to60 would be very close . My brother and I both have F350s with 7.3 engines. The difference is Gearing I have 4.30 vs. his 3.55s. My truck has better 0 to 60 times , it tows more and has more payload. My brother's truck does get better mpgs though not as much as you would think, though he does have a heavy foot perhaps why.
@robsolf5 ай бұрын
The difference is from power delivering much earlier in the curve with the turbo system, where the V8 has to get to 4800 RPM before it finds its power band. Back in the old days of extreme turbo lag, NA V8's had the advantage. But much like auto vs. stick, the advantage has completely flipped over the past 10 years. Little to no lag means power is pretty linear from 2000 RPM on up on a turbocharged engine.
@tomdell98366 ай бұрын
Probably the biggest innovation for ICE in recent memory was the CamInCam introduced in the 08 Viper which allowed independently variable exhaust valve timing in a push rod engine. Unfortunately all of the push rod engines on the market today use simple cam phasing that can't not make changes to overlap.
@barktwid70575 ай бұрын
I love my Hemi, but as a Heavy-Duty Mechanic that has worked on big diesels for 25 years, I'm not scared, at all, of an inline 6.
@edwardschillmaier44056 ай бұрын
thanx for th comparison I have an old 2003 ram with 4.7 still running and a 21 challenger with 392 there is no replacement for v8 sound and feel funny thing the 392 gets better mileage than the 4.7 unless I'm gettin on it which is most of the time 😂 i will soon purchase another ram was wondering about the inline 6 and feul mileage if it's compatible will go with another v8 probably my last truck I keep things for along time and I'm pushing 60 I'll leave the ev for the youngsters
@MichaelSmith-sj7mp6 ай бұрын
Im keeping my Hemi. I think you better keep yours too. It's going to be worth a lot of money in a few years.
@GortOnEarth6 ай бұрын
If I wanted "quiet and smooth" I would buy a Lexus. Nice review if I was buying a truck and not intending to do truck things like pulling a boat or travel trailer, either way I wouldn't purchase either need a bigger truck to pull a 5th wheel so I'll just keep my 3 year old F250 a while longer.
@SliderFury16 ай бұрын
Exactly. All these big power numbers are meaningless when a nicely equipped Bighorn barely hits mid-size truck payload numbers, and fully loaded top trims have less than my Volkswagen 🤣
@PKDesigns20116 ай бұрын
honestly this is no different then what happened with diesels ... p.s. I like the Hurricane, it's a neat option but once you drive that actual non auto start / stop, no MDS good ole V8 grunt you forget about MPG or WHP
@mogulme61906 ай бұрын
V8 grunt 😂😂😂😂
@gladegoodrich2297Ай бұрын
I have owned a half dozen Hemis. My new 25 Hurricane SST will blow the doors off them. I honestly don't miss the V/8 noise.😊
@leedanielson74526 ай бұрын
You do an awesome job on these reviews!!! Thanks!👍👏🏻😊
@Ang3lUki6 ай бұрын
These comments prove to me that a lot of truck guys just have a truck for the looks. It's an accessory, not a tool to them. They don't care about the actual practical facts, they just care about nebulous things like "soul" and the sounds they make for other drivers sitting at the stoplight.
@InsomniaReal6 ай бұрын
I've always hated that people have trucks for no reason but as someone who needs one for work I'm not buying a turbo work truck. boost isn't reliable, it puts more strain on the engine which should be fine if you aren't already putting strain on the engine with towing or doing heavy supply runs and with a turbo your adding another point of failure. you have rpm, boost and displacement they're the 3 ways engines make power, the only one that doesn't add extra strain is displacement but it adds weight which matters but not for a work truck. the I6 is the engine that is for people who don't use their truck for work same with a Ecoboost. If my truck is out I'm out I'm losing money every minute that truck isn't working and when it breaks now I got to pay a shop or buy the parts to repair it myself. I've been watching the I6 Hurricanes development for awhile and they're making the same mistakes that were made with the Ecoboost. the I6 would be really good in a car not a truck it'd need to be at least 4L and diesel to work well in a work truck.
@Ang3lUki6 ай бұрын
@@InsomniaReal Enjoy your lifter tick. Fuel costs also eat into your margins, but you aren't actually a business owner, so I don't expect you to understand basic economics.
@InsomniaReal6 ай бұрын
@@Ang3lUki a truck breaking down is alot more expensive than 2-4 mpg. you dont understand engines if you think a turbo 3L making 400+ hp is gonna be reliable enough to compete with a 5.7 making 400. you need the same amount of fuel to make the same amount of power the only savings is when you dont need alot of power which works on a flat highway and those only exist in certain places i know when i go on the highway it has more curves and ups and downs than a toxic relationship with a latina.
@Ang3lUki6 ай бұрын
@@InsomniaReal As I said, enjoy your lifter tick. Parts and service divisions need to make their quarterly earnings, and they'll engineer in flaws for you to pay for, regardless if your engine is naturally aspirated or turbocharged. Turbos are even more efficient on hilly terrain, what goes up must come down, and when you're going downhill, there will be no load and the turbo won't be making boost, so the smaller displacement will move less air, and thus less fuel. It's like displacement on demand, but even more efficient, because as we all know piston rings are the greatest source of friction in an engine. You're not the brightest, are you?
@InsomniaReal6 ай бұрын
@@Ang3lUki We've completely migrated away from where we disagreed and its my fault for not properly conveying my argument. I wasn't talking about the hemi and the hurricane more just the idea of a higher displacement na vs a turbo for the same power and the inherent reliability problems but hemis have mds and that solidly levels that field. I have a question do and how do turbos change engine breaking and what would that change do to alter the efficiency of them going down hills because without engine breaking they'd just be a lot more efficient but with engine breaking would it make them just marginally more efficient or would there still be a lot of benefit gained. I don't know much about turbo engines past the basics.
@jf8564Ай бұрын
If your looking for the best fuel economy out there DONT BUY A TRUCK. buy a Honda civic or some shit. I think the modern V8s have outstanding fuel economy for what they are amd are INTENDED FOR.
@2023DodgeRam5 ай бұрын
I got my 2023 ram Laramie with 18 miles on it. I have 3300 now, halfway through 2024. Love the truck! Love the sound when I start it up, the drive, the inside is good quality 👌 unfortunately it’s looking like it will be my last Ram. I want the v8, seems like Dodge is stepping away from v8s
@MetalTeamster3 ай бұрын
The in line six cylinder engine hauls 99 percent of everything we consume. Yes, they are very smooth
@asbrandonsconcerned6 ай бұрын
We'll see if the hurricane holds up in the long run. We've already seen fords ecoboosts, that aren't even making that much boost, dropping turbos and burning oil before 100k miles. The hemi will go 200k if it's taken care of properly and not idled to death.
@ziadajam54332 ай бұрын
Since everyone’s so obsessed with hearing the sound of a V8 go ahead and buy a V8. As long as this engine can prove it’s reliability I’m all for it
@MRektery5 ай бұрын
I have a Hemi 5.7 and I have never seen those temperatures on the coolant,oil, or transmission even in 90 degree heat. I’m not sure what the ambient temperature was outside but that truck was running hotter than it should have.
@topgunne126 ай бұрын
Alright now run them 400k and come back with results.
@lafosh72343 ай бұрын
They have…manufacturers legally have to stress test engines
@tizodd66 ай бұрын
The video is good, but maybe lay off the "w0ke" comments a bit? Opting for a turbocharged inline six with more hp, acceleration, and gas mileage, isn't exactly "w0ke" in most people's books.
@roddycreswell86136 ай бұрын
It is in mine.
@tizodd66 ай бұрын
@@roddycreswell8613 So you're actively choosing the engine with less power, slower acceleration, and worse gas mileage? Why would you intentionally prefer the objectively worse product? And more importantly, why on earth would you call the better engine "w0ke", of all things?
@roddycreswell86136 ай бұрын
@tizodd6 yep, the road isn't a race track and durability is why I choose a naturally aspirated V8. Less stress on the internals equals longer life.
@tizodd66 ай бұрын
@@roddycreswell8613 The longevity is based more on the engine build quality than the type of engine. I could see you point though, if you plan to do a lot of heavy towing. But in that case, I'd say just get a diesel. For 99% of people out there though, most of their driving is just city stuff. I still don't see what any of it has to do with being "w0ke" though.
@roddycreswell86136 ай бұрын
@tizodd6 blah, blah, blah. My favorite gas engine is 1 barrel 300 straight 6. Acting like you know engines better than I know engines shows what kind of person you are, hateful and conceited. These 3 liter engines are near their mechanical limits. I've put over 400,000 miles on a 300 making 140 horse power. It's w0ke bs just like it was in the 80's when they said 6 cylinders made more horsepower than V8's. Put the same induction on the V8 and level the playing field then get back to me. I went through this w0ke bs I the 80's. Some Nascar teams in the 80's started using V6's. They stopped using them because they wouldn't make it through the race.
@cliffweinan39076 ай бұрын
Engine design ideas behind V8 MDS and I6 turbo are similar: change volumetric efficiency by driver and load demand. Most MDS systems have had valve train reliability issues, often so bad that drivers wanted their MDS systems to be hack delected. RAM now trying something different, hopefully to stay away from expensive poor valve train reliability.
@SoonerMikeD6 ай бұрын
3:21 rear end killing that Hemi’s 0-60
@JB_WhoWork6 ай бұрын
Based off some of my previous runs, the 3.92 actually may hurt it with the extra gears… hopefully my buddy Matthew Anderson will explain this 👀
@JT-ko3rv6 ай бұрын
@@JB_WhoWork no chance I've owned and driven both plenty I can't stand the 3.21 gears but it's all I could find when I was used truck shopping. It was impossible to find the right truck with 3.92s. Ironically I bought the best used truck I could find because there was no chance of ever getting a 5th gen regular cab short box with a good engine lol. The 3.21 works at 80mph on flat ground 7th gear with 3.21 is almost the same as 8th with 3.92.
@SoonerMikeD6 ай бұрын
@@JB_WhoWorkthat’s interesting for sure. Especially just going to 60mph. Must just be a “seat of the pants” feeling with the 3:92 then if that’s all true.
@matthewanderson99126 ай бұрын
@@JT-ko3rvit’s very possible. I’d have to look up the gear ratios of the transmission and then figure out the tire height but if the 3.21 say hits 60 mph in 2nd gear and the 3.92 has to shift to 3rd then I would have little doubt the 3.21 would be quicker to 60 mph. If they both hit 60 mph in the same gear then sure, the 3.92 is probably quicker.
@vee9506 ай бұрын
For that hemi I and how big and heavy the truck is 4:10s would be better just my opinion
@bradleysmith39636 ай бұрын
The in-line 6 is one of the best most reliable engines ever built by every manufacturer, they should have never stopped making them in the first place
@scottpearce74666 ай бұрын
Was the standard engine in about all manufacturers from flat heads on up until the mid 70's!
@DirtE306 ай бұрын
I kinda like the Hurricane. Way preferable to a TT V6 in every way. That being said, just wait till the end of the year and they’ll be giving these thing away… Ram dealers are getting shafted by Stellantis…
@matthewdievendorf96096 ай бұрын
What i find interesting is the oil pressure being in the mid 40's on the 5.7 compared mid to high 20's when cruising on the inline 6.
@mypronouniswtf55596 ай бұрын
@goated313 My Hemi's were always 30 the lowest and that was with 185,000 miles...Hot weather in traffic 30 was the lowest I noticed,usually 33 when hot.
@2024hekyeah6 ай бұрын
I love the hemi though. I got a 1500 with 3.92 rear. I just fill her with 89 all the time and drive her hard, let the oil splash everywhere all the time and I don't have a single tick. She runs so clean and even does the farts in between shifts, sounds awesome!
@mbsbravofan86333 ай бұрын
Had a hemi for 12 years, just got a hurricane so far seems just as good, just quieter.
@2ndgendreamin7795 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Considering trading my 3.5 Ecoboost F-150 for a eTorgue Hemi Ram 1500, and I found this video informative. Only question now is do I wait for the Hurricane equipped 1500s?
@JHuffPhoto6 ай бұрын
What exactly is it you think they could do to both improve efficiency and increase power in a NA engine design? Turbocharging is the natural evolution of innovation in modern engine design. Yes it adds another level of complexity but that is the price you pay. Time will tell if the reliability is on par with the HEMI. Wheel-spin on the HEMI due to no turbo lag. No oil starvation on deactivated cylinders, why would you think that deactivation of the cylinder would cause oil starvation on the cylinder walls? Fuel consumption will be pretty similar, they have got the HEMI so well tuned that it really does pretty good. My Limited averages about 20MPG in mixed driving. Not gonna run to trade in my HEMI but I am also not totally afraid of the Hurricane even though it is not yet proven.
@scottpearce74666 ай бұрын
Mercedes been running a I6 turbo for 50yrs. Smooth & quiet. Most European cars are. 1 to 2.5L turbo or small diesel.
@avl10043Ай бұрын
Let me know when that 3.0 gets too 250k-300K miles like most Ram V8 5.7 last.
@Eightball25166 ай бұрын
I will still take the hemi all day every day the hemi is more reliable
@Alan-tr5uj6 ай бұрын
The HEMI had that awful penchant of eating camshafts if you let the engine idle for any amount of time longer than a few minutes, not exactly Toyota reliability. Making claims that one engine is more reliable than the other when the information simply isn’t yet available is more than a bit short-sighted.
@TommyBravo6 ай бұрын
Do you have data to support that claim? These are new and time will tell. I am willing to bet your comment won't age well. They wouldn't go all in like this and gamble the entire reputation of the 1500 ram if this engine was a problem child.
@aspecreviews6 ай бұрын
@@Alan-tr5ujThe eTorq is a hybrid. It doesn't idle.
@tylerm58626 ай бұрын
My favorite part is when he asked when are naturally aspirated engines getting their next generation? I mean, literally, he's driving the next-generation aspirated engine. Yeah, the V6 isn't as loud or doesn't sound as good; however, it provides as much power and much more efficiently. That's the entire reason for it
@Gustodomingo10 күн бұрын
Tuning that I6 is going to be amazing
@mrmoparrr6 ай бұрын
Towing comparison next please!
@scottleggejr6 ай бұрын
+1 and let's see mpg. The i6 = premium and hemi 87 octane so mpg = $/mile.
@Wranglerf82Ай бұрын
I test drove the sst I loved it I want the v8 but I remember my uncle Having a 1990 ford inline 6 loved it it pulled better than a v8
@damageincorporatedmetal43v736 ай бұрын
That's why I proposed making a solar shingle, but again what would happen ??? If your not using oil & steel thing get hidden ???
@richardljones5155 ай бұрын
Dodge is finally doing what Ford has done to their trucks, because that 3.5L EcoBoost beat the s*** out that hemi and got better gas mileage at the same time. So Dodge said why are we using bigger engines and still losing the battle against Ford, lets do what Ford is doing.
@brandonryan54225 ай бұрын
Except MOPAR rides a lot smoother. I have tons of miles behind the 3.5Eco, 2.7Eco and then the 3.6, 5.7 & 5.7e but I also drove the 5.7 Tundra, 5.6 Nissan and the 5.3, 6.2gm and I definitely would pick the Ram over the Ford or any other brand. When I was on the border I got to be in charge of fleet and drive all sorts of vehicles.
@WalkerTexasplumber6 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to see the RHO review
@wyo_garage206 ай бұрын
Crazy that the Hemi is within .2 0-30 but almost a second and a half slower to 60🤯
@bobt19316 ай бұрын
Hope they didn’t design the same cross cylinder coolant ports that Ford did in their Eco-Boost line. Lots of engines failing as a result. My daughter’s Explorer motor went just over 60K miles before it had to be replaced.
@jeffkiestler8131Ай бұрын
You nailed it with your statement about them trying to take the masculinity out owning a truck. Coming from 2022 Laramie Hemi to a 2025 Laramie... the luxury is realitively the same. Maybe it is because I am still new to the 2025 Ram but I really miss the hemi and my 2022 Ram.
@RickNethery6 ай бұрын
Id take the Hemi. Fuel mileage is about the same, really don't care about racing. It's a pickup truck.
@Michael_Scott_Howard6 ай бұрын
LOL no way mpg of HEMI is about the same. Hem 5.7L gets at most 15 city where as a 2.7L EB gets 21 city.
@RickNethery6 ай бұрын
@@Michael_Scott_Howard Did you watch the same video I did ?
@Whenindoubtthottleout6 ай бұрын
I’m happy with 5.7 2019
@JFitness88Ай бұрын
I love my diesel jeep.. I get 30mpg on the highway and the torque and sound is nice.
@davidd13953 ай бұрын
A Harley has more soul than a goldwing too. But, in every aspect of performance, the Goldwing kicks its butt.
@JPWarrior026 ай бұрын
I've had a few Hemis, as well as some friends. The 5.7 MDS engine self immolates camshafts after 100k. It's about time they dumped Hemi for a better powertrain. Hope the hurricane pans out.
@STEWDEE6 ай бұрын
You should have installed the Hellcat oil pump in 5.7L when it was new..0 cam issues after that. It's the low oil pressure at idle that is the root cause..Hellcat part fixes it
@manuelkorivu39666 ай бұрын
You’re right, Hemi have a big camshaft lubrification design flaw
@2024hekyeah6 ай бұрын
Unless you are a cop. How much do you have to idle?my hemi with 230000km with 1043 idle hours runs like a champ! I only run 89 octane though since day one and 0 issues
@BigCheese0076 ай бұрын
I would choose the I6 over the new four bangers that Toyota is putting in all their trucks 😂
@jaz50594 ай бұрын
I LOVE the Hemi. But if the Hurricane is anything like the B58/S58. Then its a game changer
@timtrinkaus70726 ай бұрын
Great review JB! I agree they should have kept the Hemi for another year or two until the new in-line 6 is proven their sales are going to decrease as most Ram buyers will be skeptical of this new powertrain until it has proven itself.
@JB_WhoWork6 ай бұрын
Thanks, it seems like running a 3.55 would have been a sweet spot too for performance if they kept it for a couple more years 👍🏾
@RotaxXS6 ай бұрын
Hey idiot. 3.0 has been around for several years already.
@chrishansen70046 ай бұрын
Ram should have made a small displacement dual overhead cam V8 instead…. 318 cubes with dual overhead cams would slaughter coyotes all day
@CZ-kz7ug6 ай бұрын
Only thing that has added power and mpg in gas engines (kind of recently) is raising compression, and adding a high pressure fuel pump. I wouldnt doubt seeing pump gas cars or trucks in next few years with 15 or 16:1 compression.
@JB_WhoWork6 ай бұрын
Good point, the manufactures obviously got lazy and weak when the government dropped these stupid regulations…
@jedwin48166 ай бұрын
I like and appreciate your views on what you like in a truck . Having 3.55 gears in the V8 Ram might have helped it get a tenth or two closer to the TT6 Ram 0 to 60. Thanks for a good truck comparison video where "infotainment" and "Apple Car Play" were not mention even once.
@bellasky834 ай бұрын
The mileage would have been worse too...
@Shenkosky6 ай бұрын
I love that they are down to 12k American workers and already fired all the engineers that made this new truck! Supporting them is like saying I love Joe Biden 💀
@zedexish5 ай бұрын
Fords sold eco boost like hotcakes for like 10 years. GM make the switch and so has Dodge.
@toledojeeper29324 ай бұрын
There are 38,000 UAW members at Stellantis in the USA.
@cliffweinan39076 ай бұрын
OEM engine has recently been all about emissions and reliablity during Fed mandated emission warranty.
@terrarecon5 ай бұрын
10:35 I hate this saying, "No replacement for displacement." Gee let me think, RAM 1500 Hemi 5.7 V8 makes 395 HP and 410 lb-ft of torque. The RAM 1500 Hurricane on the other hand is an 3.0 I6 makes 420 HP and 469 lb-ft. I think the 3.0 I6 from a power standpoint replaced the 5.7 V8 bruh...
@kevinvoyer50536 ай бұрын
IF I were to buy a new Ram 1500? Especially 4x4, i would go with a Hemi, with the automatic and 3:55 gears. In any of the trim levels. I’m interested in the times, I’ve never driven a late Ram, but have driven a Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6 now for a few years. With the timing equipment hooked up I was able to get a 0-60 time of 6.6, with 1/8 mile in 8.2@97 mph. seconds! The only other truck I’ve ran with timing equipment was a sweet 1996 Chevy C1500 short bed reg cab, with 5.7 Vortec 5 speed with 3:42 gears and G80 auto lock. That got me a decent 0-60 of 6.2, 1/8 mile at 7.9@99mph. The biggest difference between these two was efficiency, the late model Colorado get 17-25 mpg, while the V8 C1500 Silverado only got 14-20.
@Robi6155 ай бұрын
You can't bash the i6 engine, smoothly balanced. If you go back to the super hurricane 6-226 they were torque monsters back then, only 110hp but 190tq at 1400 rpm. Jeep 4.0/258, toyota 2JZ, Nissan RB26, Ford 300/Barra 4.0 all were stout engines that delivered. What could benefit them all is the turbo tech we have now along with port and direct injection combined for fueling at all rpm range. Then there's the diesels like Cummins and vw tdi.
@heykeiffers66843 ай бұрын
You can tell who doesn’t know engines here. Inline 6s are the style semis use, and are an old school engine. I’ve been saying for years they need to bring inline 6s back. They’re such a superior engine to the V8s for trucks.
@richardwilliams62566 ай бұрын
wow that 0-60 gap was shocking. Inline 6 twin turbo i guess Chrysler following Ford with turbo 6 cylinder. I hope to rent one of these from Enterprise for memorial day. I really enjoyed the Hemi i rented last time.