Ogre Battle Complete Series Retrospective

[@Xygor]

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[@dynastygirl2912]

The Knight of Lodis on the GBA, it’s easily the best one in my opinion. Also The Knight of Lodis is a direct prequel to Let us Cling together

[@Fojenstein3D]

Ive only played Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen. It was fun, but i was young and stupid and after beating the game my descendents overthrew and killed me at the end :-(

[@dynastygirl2912]

@@Fojenstein3D yeah you got the bad ending lol

[@CoffeePotato]

It's too hard to say. I love the mechanical ocean of TO Remake, love the constant wackiness of MOTBQ, love the unit growth of KoL, the sheer immersion of the original TO, the insanely good story adjustments that OB64, and the sheer ballsiness of whoever thought Prince of Zenobia was ok. It's my favorite series next to Armored Core. No relation, I just love perfect things.

[@shivasthong4924]

@@Fojenstein3D Baloney I say~! As if those underleveled beings could ever take out your units!

[@rhinesguard1]

Ogrebattle 64 was awesome, it had so many hidden items, quests, and characters!!!

[@psychzach1588]

I'm playing it now for the first time. So good so far

[@silassmith7322]

I never got the good ending time for a 50th run lol

[@STOCKHOLM07]

Spoilers: - - - If you get the bad ending, but Magnus is downed by Destin himself, you get a slightly altered neutral ending instead. I did not intend to find this out.

[@sylphsylph2118]

@@silassmith7322 it is hard to get a good ending in the first one but really it is understandable ,most people love to grind level instead of swirve and go around enemy unit ,you have to remember character alignment and to be lower level than the enemy to gain a better alignment which sometimes has to make you do ... weird decision like not pushing with a good unit but a weak one hoping you can lower the boss with 5 group of weak units instead of a few strong ones

[@Xygor]

Yes, lots of secrets!

[@jeremybarnett3945]

The fact this series has been left by the wayside is a travesty.

[@Zafersan]

Enix owns it. makes sense. they rather milk FF

[@goncaloferreira6429]

@@Zafersan and yet they dont milk FF tactics?

[@necrosim]

Fear not, it's successor should be coming next year if you were not aware

[@goncaloferreira6429]

@@necrosim not really

[@necrosim]

@@goncaloferreira6429uhh... not really what?

[@slimc.2280]

The knights of lodis was my first tactics game ever. I remember my mom taking me to KB games and I just picked it up not knowing anything about it. I'm grateful child me had good taste for amazing games.

[@Icynova]

Ogre Battle 64 is my favorite game of all time. Thanks for the video

[@Xygor]

Glad you liked it!

[@ChosenPlaysYT]

It’s hard to even articulate just how amazing the Ogre Battle games were for their time. My friend and I rented the SNES version as a joke cuz we thought the case art looked funny, then we were hooked when we actually tried it. I remember I fell asleep during a slumber party watching my friend playing SNES Ogre Battle when we were like 13. I’ll never forget waking up in the middle of the night and seeing that he passed out literally holding the controller trying to fight off sleep cuz he wanted to keep playing lmfao… that game was so damn amazing I miss those days.

[@Xygor]

Thanks for this memory! It really was ahead of its time.

[@theoriginaljealot5946]

Amazing - you could have been describing me and my friend during our childhood around the same age. Countless nights like this, and we would find creative ways to play all night long, like taking alternating shifts playing and sleeping, or working out and watching while the other played and switching again.

[@Thee_JC]

Ogre Battle 64 is not only my favorite in the series but a top 5 game of all time for me. I loved it. A shame the series has seen no love.

[@Xygor]

It truly was a gem on the N64, which didn't have that many in my mind.

[@sallgoodman2323]

Playing through it now. Very addicting and fun!

[@agent7142]

Doesn't get more underrated than Ogre Battle 64.

[@Jarekx2007]

What blows my mind is nobody has even tried to recreate it. The only tactics rpg's we get even remotely close are all inspired by Fire Emblem. The rest are FF: Tactics clones. Nobody has done the rts + auto-battler hybrid that is Ogre Battle 64.

[@helldronez]

​@@XygorI want to see your "unicorn overlord" review when it came out 2024 switch ps5

[@takarahayashi4124]

I'm a die hard fan of the series and fell in love with it the second I played the March of the Black Queen when I was a kid. I still remember the entire story from all the games to date. In any case, you forgot to talk about the world lore. All of the games are inter-connected, the main character from the original game shows up and becomes a member of Magnus's army. Also Lans Hamilton was Destin Faroda (MC of first game) first ally, that shows up in Tactics Ogre alongside Warren Moon and Canopus, who were both members of Destin's army as well in the first game. And the reason for their appearances in those games are for lore reason, that they are investigating the Lodis Empire, who are responsible for all the wars and demon summonings. The GBA title, is the prequel to the whole series, and it's story is unique in that main character is actually the founder of the Lodis Empire, I find that really freaking cool.

[@Xygor]

Fair enough, maybe I should have delved deeper into that.

[@hypebrain4150]

Still holding out for this… please square let Ogre Battle live again!

[@Xygor]

Maybe it will, since Tactics Ogre: Reborn did so well!

[@tchrisbass5650]

@@Xygor looks like all we have is the new overlord game

[@FlavorsomeMusic]

The music may be repetitive because there's a limited selection of them, but tracks such as the one that begins at 5:50 are burnt into my mind as vgm classics.

[@fedupN]

4:28 battle theme, 0:30, and the choose your card music with Warren at the beginning still sticks with me. Hearing them instantly evokes old memories and feelings. I dont have the friggin time to dedicate to the game nowadays, but still respect the heck out of the thing!

[@Xygor]

True!

[@FlavorsomeMusic]

I have been playing TO: Reborn, and Wall of Defense, Santa's Coming and Thunder all made their way into it in full orchestral glory :D

[@somagai467]

Absolutely love Ogre Battle/Tactics. The best srpgs ever made, i think. And i believe we are long overdue for another masterpiece.

[@Xygor]

I think so too!

[@magickgeminid2944]

Especially with the ending of Ogre Battle 64

[@ricflair4052]

The Ending of Tactics Ogre : Let us cling together , was a incomplete one. The story continues.. where is the long overdue to be continued game ?

[@Dietrich_Kaufmann]

LET US CLING

[@nickmaestro]

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together on the PSP. My only gripe with that game was the weapons crafting system. Other than that, best story and best soundtrack.

[@quincymims2580]

Agreed. The definitive edition (outside of that complicated, super-tweaked modded PC version).

[@KCUFyoufordoxingme]

I honestly could not stand that version other than the storyline skipping around option. It got rid of what made ogrebattle unique for the sake of trying to encourage online vs. play.

[@quincymims2580]

@@KCUFyoufordoxingme What did it get rid of? It’s been too long.

[@shawnfox5568]

Ogre Battle 64 is my favorite game of all time. They need to make a new iteration in the series based on the overworld map system.

[@Xygor]

I honestly can't blame you for holding it in such high regard.

[@rpg500e]

Watching this while playing "Reborn" Let Us Cling Together. It's a marvelous age! After all the tactics games that came out in 2022, the future's looking bright!

[@Xygor]

True!

[@theconversationvancity2201]

I've been saying for ages ogre battle 64 is the best rpg on the Nintendo 64. Also my favorite tactics games

[@Xygor]

I agree with you!

[@roastedwalnut]

LUCT for PSP is the greatest tactics game of all time. Checks every box for me.

[@NecrosAcolyte]

We seriously need a new Ogre Battle game. Square Enix is never going to do it, though

[@Xygor]

Maybe someday!

[@HillHomeGaming]

Since they've begun releasing older titles to mobile and in particular to Steam I keep hoping the PSP Tactics Ogre ends up on Steam at some point. I doubt it will but... it would be great if it did!

[@TiamatZer0]

Fun Fact: Much of the Tactics Ogre dev team would go on to work on FFT Advance

[@HillHomeGaming]

@@TiamatZer0 I did know that! Shame FFTA wasn't nearly as good as T.O. is.

[@NecrosAcolyte]

@@TiamatZer0 I know, but tactics ogre isn't a real ogre battle game

[@MCastleberry1980]

Man, I poured God knows how many hours into The Knight of Lodis just trying to unlock certain classes

[@paulmiller7838]

Ogre Battle was an amazing game. Tactics Ogre was a complete change yet I still loved the game. I still think the original game was the best however.

[@paulmiller7838]

Also fun factoid, they were not only Queen fans but fans of Robert E. Howard and specifically his character of Conan. The first game takes place in Zenobia who Conan marries and makes his queen (Hour of the Dragon). The second game Tactics Ogre takes place in Valeria another major love interest of Conan (Red Nails). As the Queen references stopped after the first two games so did the Robert E. Howard references sadly.

[@Xygor]

Yes it was!

[@mikek191]

Loved Ogre Battle 64. Thanks for explaining the link between FFT and the Ogre Battle series. Always thought those games were way too similar to be coincidence.

[@Xygor]

Glad you enjoyed it, I love the history/evolution of RPG series' so glad that part helped.

[@Birdseed99]

Ogre Battle 64 is still one of my favorite RPG’s of all time. It has inspired me In so many ways and im desperate to see anyone even try and recreate the love and care it had put in it.

[@jonheddleston8755]

It kills me that Nintendo won't release any of the series for the Switch. I'd love to just get comfy on the couch for an hour or two and play.

[@hassam363]

It would have to be Square, they own the series.

[@andrekaminski5596]

Ogre Battle 64 is my favorite game of all time. I'm pretty sure I spent more than 350 hours in the game. Choosing different strategies, different paths, different characters, different classes in each campaign. Even like 20 years after the game was released, I discovered new characters lines and cutscenes that I never got when I played the game when I read the forums on Gamefaqs. It's an amazing game. It's a shame that the franchise was dead for many decades. But now when Squarenix announced Tactics Ogre Reborn, I became excited again. My hope they someday bring a new Ogre Battle game to the Switch after the success of the Fire Emblem franchise.

[@helldronez]

Unicorn Overlord is what you seek it made by Atlus and Vanilaware it released in 2024 march, check it out the trailer, also the cover looks like ogre battle cover

[@COREcasual]

I actually liked tactics ogre better than FFT

[@geronuis2295]

def need more ogre battle

[@Xygor]

Yes, much more!

[@lonely0takulive828]

Ahh Ogre Battle the seed that sprout the best strategy games. Yasumi should be more recognized.

[@Xygor]

It really did, one of the trailblazers in the genre.

[@j644]

My faves were Person of Lordly Caliber and The knight of Lodis growing up. Two games that really defined my ideal gaming experience for rpgs and strategy games. Dark, gritty stories, tough combat, beautiful sprites and backgrounds, character customization, even that weird biorhythm stuff that secretly influences your fighting ability. My question to you is... do you press B to guard in these games like I do? I swear it works for Magnus

[@Xygor]

When it comes to the best in the series, there's really no wrong answer! You're totally right about the dark, gritty stories.

[@Darrel_B]

Found this video after watching the Tactics Ogre Reborn Trailer 100 times. As a huge Ivalice fan, I feel there's been a massive FOMO element to having not played any Ogre Battle games. Thanks for the video!

[@Xygor]

Glad you liked it, and glad Tactics Ogre is getting some love again through that remake!

[@wingkeung9979]

The first one was my favourite. I remember making the leader hit three times and then the other teams just destroyed the other army while the leader beat the boss. Worked til the last stage when enemies kept re spawning… Still remember the “LIBERATION” and “FIGHT IT OUT” voice lines.

[@helldronez]

Check unicorn overlord game it made by Atlus too for switch and ps5 it has those fireworks on top of city if won by liberation 😂

[@Spacebunnie777]

the original tactics ogre is my favorite video game of all time, but i honestly love the entire series so much, i have physical copies of the original ogre battle limited esition and the knight of lodis, and i am actually currently playing let us cling together on my adroid phone on an emulator. I honestly am not a fan of the psp version, but im glad it exists. Love them all so much. My favorite game series of all time. Matsuno is a creative genius and the entire quest team has blessed us all with their masterful works of art.

[@Xygor]

I don't blame you, that game is so good. Glad it got remastered finally.

[@alanaran1575]

I don't remember much of Tactics Ogre today, but I have some hella nostalgia for it. I was a big FF fan but somehow I ended up with TO instead of FFT. I remember my friends and I taking turns doing battles and leveling up characters together. Fun times.

[@oliverje85]

Ogre Battle 64 is my favorite 64 game as well!!! I always loved the class system even when characters die you can upgrade and level people (Angel knights!!!) plus the special items and characters/classes that you get based off of the chaos frame system made this game so fun, with so much to aim for each playthrough. I always hope for some kind of news that a new one based off of the ogre battle 64 system will come out. There has not been anything like it since.

[@Xygor]

Thank you for your memories of it!

[@sphixion]

I love this game. So many secret characters, the 12 stones, trading the stones for crowns, making princesses, Brunhild, Princess + Lich = too OP.

[@MobiusPrime2028]

2 Liches and a Princess as leader in the back row, wyvern for high mobility in front. This unit alone can intercept and destroy entire armies. Liberation of towns done by other high ALI units.

[@MobiusPrime2028]

@Hi_Nu Ver 0 Zero_Tester As a long time player of JRPGs, grinding had become 2nd nature to me. Imagine my surprise when grinding too much was actually bad in this game!

[@Xygor]

So many great games in the series.

[@rayceeya8659]

The thing I miss most from the first game is just how BIG the maps were. There was so much to explore. Neither of the other two games replicated that. Even Ogre Battle 64 had smaller maps. Give me big complicated maps full of stuff. That's why even after almost 30 years I keep coming back to the first one over and over again. I still haven't found everything.

[@Xygor]

True, for the SNES they really were huge.

[@theoriginaljealot5946]

Same! The huge maps, the amazing artwork, the masterful music, and the amazing army management, unit management, and character management, then the strategy and tactical aspects... there is so much to like and enjoy (over and over again) about the original Ogre Battle. The rest of the series is great too, but to me, it is in large part because they pay homage to the first one.

[@TheBlackJester]

I looked everywhere for it, ended up playing on a rom, the original was brilliant. Comparitively most other tactic games beccome a let down.

[@Xygor]

It was such a fantastic game, wasn't it?

[@Tarrot]

Small addition: There was a 5th game in the Ogre Battle series released Japan only on the Wonderswan Color which followed Prince Tristam prior to meeting him in the 1st Ogre Battle game. I'm not sure if it had an English Patch (I played using map translations back in the day), but it was also in the series as a Gaiden/Side-Story game. It played very similarly to March of the Black Queen.

[@nintendokolekcjoner239]

I was on Neo Geo Pocket Colour

[@Xygor]

Thank you for this info.

[@toolman4745]

I love the Ogre Battle series, great video! Ogre Battle 64 is also one of my favorite games for the N64. As far the graphics go I always thought the sprites looked like claymation a little and I liked it. I think that's the "blurry" and "laggy" effect you mentioned. I always found it oddly appealing.

[@shaunholt]

Same. I just accepted it as graphics limitations at the time, and the dialogue pop-ups have cleaner images. Even now I still like how that game looks.

[@Xygor]

Thanks man, sorry it took so long to respond. Love chatting with you in the discord!

[@ogre27kain]

Favorite series ever! Can't wait to see this video! And my favorite game in the series is ogrebattle 64.

[@Wulfren]

Tactics Ogre filled many of my summer days as a kid. Will never forget the first time I got the the Kachua option and ... yeah =( I will never forget that feeling.

[@Xygor]

This was the same for both of us!

[@mythoceanas8874]

I remember playing Ogre Battle 64 so much and the story has always stuck with me. I would even say, I'm a different person today because I played Ogre Battle 64. It is definitely not a game everyone gets or enjoys, but the fans of it always rate it in their top games of all time.

[@Xygor]

Yeah, I really wish that one got more exposure!

[@nin_tendo6458]

Easily a top ten game of all time for me. I totally agree and have the exact same experience with it. Totally changed my life.

[@Undone007]

OgreBattle 64 is one of my all time favorites, Ive beaten that game at least 3-4 times and each times like 40-70 hours, very very few games hold my attention like that

[@Xygor]

Defintely a top 3 game on the N64.

[@HybridAngelZero]

Great video on a series that absolutely does not get enough coverage! I really need to give Knights of Lodis a try, but thankfully several of these games have been rereleased digitally! Ogre Battle 64 is available on the Wii U eShop for a mere $10, and the PSP version of Let Us Cling Together is available for the same price for PSP and Vita!

[@Xygor]

Thank you, glad you liked the video!

[@vicetea86]

ogre battle was absolutely my favorite Super Nintendo game of all time. sooooo much to that game , still to this date one of the deepest games I've ever played ,so many hidden characters ,so many choices ,such awesome auto combat. This game was something special .

[@chavesa5]

Ogre Battle was amazing. Wish it would come back

[@TheGoul29]

Ogre Battle is by far my favorite game on the Nintendo 64...I pray for a remake on modern consoles since that day...

[@Xygor]

Maybe it will be, given Reborn is getting so much hype!

[@Titan360]

Ogre battle 64 has three endings. March of the Black Queen has TWELVE. Thirteen if you count Dragon's Haven. Just thought I should point that out.

[@Zafersan]

best series of all time with Shining Force

[@Xygor]

Both were fantastic SRPGs!

[@nevanV12]

The many hours I ran with Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen on an emulator. That game for me, timeless. I always remember my first playthrough coming in blind then finding out several missions later that there were chances I can recruit characters.

[@willalvarez6773]

How do I go about playing this on an emulator? I've heard of it but have no clue how to go about downloading it and finding this game.

[@Xygor]

There was so much replayability with it, wasn't there?

[@nevanV12]

@@willalvarez6773 you can either play the Snes version or the psp version. I'd still argue that the Snes version is still the best.

[@nevanV12]

@@Xygor absolutely. There were a lot of surprises that the game gives off.

[@willalvarez6773]

@@nevanV12 I played both SNES and PS1 versions. I did enjoy the PS1 version more. I'm currently trying to find a store on whatnot that actually has a sealed version of it. I did own the game years ago but no clue what happened to it. They should have added this game to the PS1 retro. I'm still searching.

[@kevinstreetgaming]

I wonder if we will ever get another Ogre Battle game. I guess that Project Triangle Strategy game is a sort of spiritual sequel since tactics games are mostly dead on consoles.

[@SeanUCF]

Check out super robot wars. They were only released in Asian countries but were translated into English for the Asian countries where English is the dominant language.

[@jakeland2274]

Disgea...fell seal... xcom... mario and rabbids... fire emblem... so many more. How can you say tactics games are dead?

[@kevinstreetgaming]

@@jakeland2274 I should have said they aren't as popular as they once were.

[@jakeland2274]

@@kevinstreetgaming they are MORE popular then they once were!

[@hassam363]

There is one other ogre battle game "Legend of Ogre Battle Gaiden: Prince of Zenobia". Only came out on the Neo Geo pocket and only in Japan so basically no one knows about it.

[@Xygor]

Thank you for this info!

[@LabrnMystic]

The original ogre battle on SNES is what got me into strategy RPGs. I was also amazed when you were able to recruit Deneb or Debonair, cuz there are few games I know of where you can recruit the boss you just fought

[@Xygor]

It was definitely a great entry point, a first for many people getting into the genre back then.

[@robertandersen4164]

I only played Ogre Battle 64, and absolutely loved it. It's one of the only cartridges that I still possess.

[@Xygor]

Wasn't it amazing?

[@petitknightcreations7431]

I remember renting Ogre Battle 64 as a kid, and it went wayyyyyy over my head. Wish I'd known how badly they needed the sales, and how I was sitting on a gem, I might have tried to get my folks to pick it up.

[@Xygor]

Maybe you can appreciate it more now then!

[@NickJaime]

My favorite of the series was the N64 version, I played it a few time's over.

[@Xygor]

I don't blame you for liking it so much!

[@raulgonzalez-lp2fi]

This series and Breath of Fire series deserves a remake, hope they happen someday.

[@zerwif]

There seems to be some major confusion about Tactics Ogre SNES/PS1's combat system. There was no skill system and unlocking classes are fully stat based, unrelated to quests. Everything described here were changes for the PSP.

[@Xygor]

Thank you, you're right

[@Graus4201]

The game managed to keep rpg elements to where i know where everyone is on such a grand scale.64 is my fav. just included so many classes. loved how the weapons changed and there was a tool tip for everything. everything press select its ok not to memorize what vitality is.just so many little things make this so it will always be my favorite game series.

[@n0denz]

I was nothing short of blown away by the story of Ogre Battle 64. I was about 12 when the game came out in NA, and I'd never seen a game factor in politics. The scene that really hit home for me was when King Procus is confronted by Richard and cows to Lodis rather than asserting Palatinus' autonomy. In any other fantasy setting, the king holds absolute power, but in OB64, the king is so easily intimidated into submission and not even by another king but a knight who is just a glorified hatchet man. That amazed me at the time.

[@Xygor]

It was such a unique game for being so dark on the N64. Thank you for your memories of it!

[@Beshozyajstvennoe_Mylo]

Thank you for this adventure into the world of masterpieces!

[@Xygor]

Thank you for watching it!

[@AaronJLong]

I think the blur in 64 is baked into the system hardware, as every game on the system had that kind of blur. It really made the small text in the Pokémon Stadium games hard to read no matter how close I got to the TV. I could be wrong though.

[@Xygor]

Thanks for this info!

[@Kashikizu]

Tactics Ogre the Knight of Lodis is *the* game that got me into rpgs. Since I never got to play anything prior to Gameboy Advance games I never really got the opportunity to play all the rest of ogre battle games. Eventually I moved on but TOTKOL left such an amazing impression on me that every once in a while I go back and play the game over and over again. I was really hoping they would make a new or continuation of tactics ogre in ds or 3ds but I guess they took their time and we finally have reborn. I havent played it yet but ik what I will be playing soon. Thank you for the video! It really reminded me of the beauty of this series!

[@Xygor]

Excellent, Knight of Lodis is underrated!

[@Kashikizu]

@@Xygor I feel like calling it and all of the franchise underrated is just an understatement. These games are way too amazing (especially since I play games *for* the story) and I dont find anyone who played these games. I cannot stress enough how much this video filled my heart with joy! Thanks again for this video!

[@theyobby]

I played through Knight of Lodis on very long bus rides during an educational trip around Europe. It's still one of my fondest memories of the trip. Thank you for the kind words about it.

[@Xygor]

Glad you liked it, that was such a great game. One of the best GBA games by far.

[@uberpinkwarrior]

Ogre Battle 64 was my introduction into it, as a tiny babby. Despite being so young, I still found myself enjoying it. ...I also remember setting my birthday early and save-scumming for a particular sword which gave a massive performance boost to whoever had it (it was just a generic sword, but higher tier than you could otherwise get this early). Never beat it though.

[@Xygor]

Thank you for your memories of the series!

[@planescaped]

Damn... I shouldn't have returned March of the Black Queen to Blockbuster when I rented it. XD

[@nabilmasud4086]

I remember knight of lodis being my most favorite tactics game and one of the first that made me enjoy the genre. I've been on a huge tactics kick again lately after triangle strategy and am sad to see they just never did more tactics ogre games.

[@Xygor]

Top 3 GBA game for sure!

[@BradleyRose]

Thx for doing this vid. I grew up on Ogre Battle 64 with it being one of my fave games, and I'm revitalized now in pursuing playing the rest. I'm playing Final Fantasy Tactics right now for the first time and loving it, so I know these games are gonna be my jam. 🍻

[@Xygor]

Glad you liked the video, thanks for your memories of the series!

[@gkagara]

Never knew this exist before ogre reborn in PC

[@thelightwielder]

ogre battle 64 is my favorite N64 game

[@Xygor]

It's a really good one!

[@ukrpgfan4029]

We demand another Tactics Ogre game NOW!!!

[@Xygor]

Maybe we will get one now that Tactics Ogre: Reborn got so much love.

[@Malocyte]

Tactics Ogre for sure, I'm still waiting for a sequel to Ogre Battle 64, they left me waiting for answers! lol

[@Xygor]

Maybe there will be!

[@alexbotsama7086]

I've played all but the first extensively. I am pretty much always on the lookout for games that have similar systems to OB64. I don't understand why so few developers have tried to replicate it given the ratings that OB64 has.

[@jackbarnes4048]

Didn't really catch on outside of Japan sadly. But remaster's and re-release's are popular nowadays, could get a second wind.

[@Big_Dai]

Seeing the new Nintendo Switch Tactics Ogre is both exciting and disappointing. Hope it sells well to see Knights of Lidia revamped as well.. but more importantly, for a new title to be created (and for it to finally surpass the SNES release that no game has ever topped)

[@MikeRetroModz]

I love tactical games like FF tactics, Disgaea and Advance wars but Ogre Battle has such a unique gameplay loop it''s a travesty that no one expanded upon it with a more modern game or that it's not even getting remastered.

[@nicest75]

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[@MikeRetroModz]

Holy shit that aged well

[@Arselpang]

Does anyone remember a game that is extremely similar to Ogre Battle and Gemfire? I don't remember if it was exclusively a japanese game but i don't think so. You could recruit units and had armies and conquered places just like in Ogre Battle, and heroes that lead them if im not mistaken. I got it! The name of the game is Warsong! Finally!

[@Sludgedump]

I miss these games

[@ryanmiller76]

Tactics Ogre has been in my GBAsp for years... and I don't see any reason to ever remove it

[@Xygor]

Have you played Reborn yet?

[@ryanmiller76]

@Xygor I have not, but it is officially on my list for 23!

[@Xygor]

@@ryanmiller76 it’s great!

[@MarkRushow]

I played 64 and loved it. I think it may be the only tactics type game I ever played. The initual draw was the art style, I loved it. Then the story got me. I still have fond memories of it.

[@Xygor]

It really was a unique classic on the N64!

[@bclinguist]

I remember being in a FuncoLand in the early 2000s, a broke teenager wondering if I should buy Ogre Battle 64 for 50 USD. I did, and I'll never regret it.

[@Xygor]

How could you! That's an awesome memory!

[@TheCrazierz]

I remember being introduced to the series in the 2000s on an emulator. I fell in love with March of the Black queen and I eventually bought it on ps1, to play on my ps3. Cost me $100. I still have it.

[@Xygor]

I think you made a good investment!

[@redfox7739]

Literally my favorite series ever. Gameplay to story its,incredible and underrated

[@Xygor]

Definitely one of the best Strategy RPG series ever.

[@p.d.692]

Played Tactics Ogre LUCT during a very difficult time of my life. Its one those games that I can go back to and still feel the magic of experiencing a great game for the first time.

[@hang0918]

You miss out Ogre Battle Gaiden: Prince of Zenobia in Neo Geo Pocker Color

[@jessewilliams9195]

Ogre Battle 64. The storyline was mature, with divergence for replayability. The relationship between the brothers Sir Richard Glendale and Sir Baldwin Glendale was complicated and fascinating. Richard, the leader of the Calignus Order (Knights Templar, effectively) treated his younger brother Baldwin harshly, yet deeply loved him. Richard Glendale was the patriarch of a powerful political family of warriors in the Holy Lodis Empire. Their family had been humiliated by their Pope/Emperor, and wanted to attain greater mythical power in Palatinus to overthrow Lodis and gain vengeance for their father's mistreatment and death. In fact, Richard wanted Baldwin to attain the "ultimate power" they search for the entire game. This directly contradicts Richard's harsh and callous treatment of his younger brother (this includes telling Baldwin the only reason he is alive after his failures against the protagonist, is because of his lineage).The character development is brilliant, complicated, and full of realistic characters you empathize with. In addition, the political dynamics were well thought out. The Holy Lodis Empire was effectively running Palatinus as a client state, making the protagonists revolution against not just Palatinus, but the Holy Lodis Empire. The inclusion of characters from previous titles made the game incredibly fun. Destin Faroda, Quass Deboair, you find yourself doing whatever it takes to attain them in your army. Thank you for posting this, Ogre Battle is an incredible series, with the 64 version being a true piece of art in graphics, game play, soundtack and story.

[@Xygor]

Appreciate your take!

[@The_Cosmic_Navigator]

Ogre Battle is my favorite of the strat/rpg genre. Also heavily influenced my world building.

[@Xygor]

I can't blame you for this opinion!

[@OriginalRyan]

I wish like with some RPGs being released nowadays, the Tactical RPGs did the same. These games took up A LOT of my video game time growing up. Ogre Battle, Tactics Ogre, FF Tactics, Ogre Battle 64, & more. Such great stories & simple yet intuitive gameplay.

[@phlaelym]

I rented the original Ogre Battle for the SNES from Blockbuster when it was released and never returned it - not intentionally, it got lost for about ten years. I still have that copy, as well as a second copy I got at Funcoland for $100. I remember turning Lanz into a vampire early into the game, then when I beat the game he stabbed the protagonist (the player-character) in the back and became emperor himself.

[@ravensinger5029]

I rented it from BB as well (several times). When I tried to buy it, I couldn't find it anywhere, even mail order. So I rented it again, and told them it was stolen out of my car, paid for the replacement. Crazy.

[@XaurielZ]

I would love to see a more modern game with mechanics similar to those of Ogre Battle and Ogre Battle 64, I'm not aware of anything else with that particular combination of JRPG and RTS.

[@Xygor]

Yes, that would be nice!

[@mikeakaspike]

Yup, like many others in the comments, Ogre Battle 64 is my favorite game. Probably out of any game ever. This really is an amazing IP not being utilized. We need the rest of the story!

[@Xygor]

It was fantastic! Maybe the series will be continued someday.

[@HillHomeGaming]

PSP tactics ogre is my favorite. It runs much faster than the old PS One version, you can use it on the PS TV (rare to own that but I do) and the battles aren't as long as the original Ogre Battle. OB 64 is also an awesome title though it is very, very long.

[@Xygor]

It was a really good version. Have you played Reborn yet?

[@HillHomeGaming]

@@Xygor Not yet though I did pick it up on Steam. I haven't time - just moved to a new place, new state, new job etc. Been super busy!

[@Xygor]

@@HillHomeGaming I can't blame you!

[@DaedalosC9]

tKoL was my first tactics genre game, instantly loved it despite the fact of not being able to travel/explore deeply (i was used to FF and DQ games back in the mid 2000s) then i played LUCT for PSP and i found the glory. The soundtrack, the artwork, the plot and the lore, everything from LUCT is sublime and once i found out about the best ending of tKoL it was like OMG I'd definetly love a tKoL remake ala PSP LUCT

[@Xygor]

Tons of great aspects. Thanks for these memories!

[@DhcTrixtor]

You have to checkout Symphony of War: The Nephilim Saga is you crave for more Ogre Battle. Amazing Spiritual Successor.

[@Xygor]

Thanks for the recommendation!

[@GYIYGABITE.]

We, the fans: "We implore you Mr. Enix! Releasing an Ogre Battle currently will calm everyone and shall please the locals!" Mr Enix: "The Council have heard your plea and we will not answer to it." Fans: "Then we will see you at the battlefield!" Narrator: FIGHT IT OUT!

[@Xygor]

Nice!!

[@hainesforohio7028]

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen changed the game. It was very rare to find in North America and even more rare to find the official strategy guide.

[@Xygor]

It really did, a totally standout game when there was really nothing else like it.

[@GhibliNova]

3 Fire Emblem games came out on the NES and is credited with inventing the genre, Ogre Battle was inspired by it, not the other way around

[@Xygor]

True, but those were grid-oriented and not exactly the same feel as the first Ogre Battle.

[@eqgmrdbz]

Haven't played Person Of Lordly Caliber, but if it's anything like the others I think I will love it, maybe I will give it a go sometime.

[@Xygor]

You would like it if you like the others!

[@VampguyN85]

Ogre battle was one of my first experiences on snes besides ff6 and 7th saga and breath of fire growing up. All amazing games I keep going back to.

[@Xygor]

Lots of great nostalgic memories from that time for me too.

[@MrNemitri]

I remember playing this game first on a SNES emulator, really liked it alot, the only thing that I disliked was the alignment system, and charisma, was really hard to understand or manage correctly, also a lack of explanation on part of the game, especially items.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

It's nice to see someone out there that remembers these games. While I hold no hope that Ogre series will ever return, it was a great, glorious series for its time, and incredibly impactful especially on the tactics side, where most Japanese tactics games have copied the systems of Tactics Ogre to one degree or another since its release.

[@Xygor]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed them! I actually think it's possible it may be resurrected because Tactics Ogre: Reborn did so well.

[@rockk9753]

Ogre battle is a majestic game that deserves more love than what it got

[@Xygor]

Totally true.

[@zachw2538]

I was always terrible at this game but it was fun trying.

[@Xygor]

Most of them were really hard!