Ogre Kingdoms DLC Discussion & Predictions: What Morsels Will the Great Maw Receive?

[@swiatlowiekuiste]

The thumbnail is simply... beautiful.

[@eta2670]

I just clicked on this to say the same, absolutely spot on

[@loremasterofsotek]

Skeleton cooked like CRAAAZY with this one. I love it so much

[@marvinvasquez9437]

@@loremasterofsotekis there a Generic lord for the Ogres?

[@fredslipknot9]

*Perfection*

[@SleepyFen]

​​​@@marvinvasquez9437we already have Tyrants and Slaughtermasters, so the only thing left, I think, are Gnoblar Head Honchos. There's not a lot of information on them, but basically it would be a Gnoblar-focused lord. Maneater captains as generals aren't a thing on tabletop afaik, so if they want to stick with the official army list as much as possible, I think the honcho is the one we'll get.

[@OldManZolla]

I know it's a long shot but I think a mechanic that worked like the Ice witch training for a Maneater type Hero would be awesome. Start with an ogre and decide where he goes to hire himself out. Say he goes to Nippon, he get stalk and then they can use the ninja maneater model. Something along those lines would be fun.

[@loremasterofsotek]

Oh that would be SUPER neat for a Ogre Maneater Captain to really have some crazy unique flair! I feel like that could be a really fun unique mechanic for Golgfag's campaign.

[@josephdoria5237]

I hope CA sees this comment. That would be awesome!

[@schmiddi5768]

Could see that working as Golgfag's mechanic; hiring and training up a circle of Maneater lieutenants, doling out loot to keep em happy and get buffs, etc. Pair that with bonuses to the (presumably HEAVILY reworked) ogre contract system and you've got the makings of a pretty fun mercenary campaign

[@tamastorok6066]

good as the ice witchs they so trash and so bad mechanic new factions with bad mechanic TRULY CA THING

[@stratedmusic5139]

*insert Ogres, my Lord meme or any ogre pun*

[@loremasterofsotek]

LORD MY OGRES!

[@jiado6893]

I would like the choice of mercenaries to hire showing up on the world map again. It doesn’t even just have to be ogres.

[@TheFlibidy]

Really looking forward to the "Armoured (for a gnoblar)" trait xD

[@CommanderBohn]

Ogre Stuff we need: - Bruisers - Gnoblar Head Honchos - Yhetess - Thundertusks - Mounts for lords and heroes - Blood Vultures were unexpected as a unit, but a pleasant one - Other Gnoblar units like Manbiters - Remaining lores for Ogre Butchers and Slaughtermasters Edit: OK, make the Head Honcho into a generic lord, but add in also the generic Honcho. Also I'm now on team Gnoblar. Khorne Stuff: - Slaughterbrutes - Bloodbeasts - Khorngors - Juggernaut Chariots - Khorne Priests and Bloodfathers as replacements for Sorcerers Greenskin Stuff: - Honestly there is so much of this I don't know what to choose...

[@hoodedwizard4695]

I'd honestly rather have the maneater captain. I feel that the head honcho is mod material, like a fimir generic lord. As for the greenskins DLC, this is what I think: Gorbad Ironclaw Borgut Facebeater Savage Orc Warboss Savage Orc Big Boss Colossal Squig Mangler Squigs Big Stabba The Goblin Balista Honestly the fifth slot could either be Squig Gobba or Arachnaroc Web Flinga.

[@GrimgorTheImmortal]

Mounts for lords 🙏🏻

[@metrana0724]

Honestly playing ogres for the first time just yesterday and I was surprised tyrants didn't have mournfang mounts. Feels a tiny bit silly that hunters just become a free stonehorn fairly early into the game and just become absolute gods of war and my tyrant is still waddling and Lord dueling, I mean... Someone has to do it but a little bit more speed and mass for some better unit charging once the Lord is dead would be nice

[@tunencio7288]

ogres following a gnoblar? is like swore fealty to your lunch

[@CommanderBohn]

@@tunencio7288 Unless the Head Honcho knows how to get enough meat to make the Ogres listen to him.

[@adrienwarad]

ogres my lord

[@Zettern96]

The Maneater Captain and Manbiters make sense with Glolgfag and I think Gnoblar flingers would be a great addition to the Ogre roster.

[@pieguy5323]

Really like the idea of having more "customizable" lords/heroes like how you mention with the Maneater captain. Just makes the roster and armies more diverse in a cheep and easy way and makes you more attached to your armies. More fun!

[@battleknoedel5581]

Your thumbnails just keep getting better and better. At this point I'm just waiting for you to cosplay as Alarielle.

[@jiado6893]

I would like it if the Rhinox got a brand new model, so they’re they’re bigger, and not just retextured Mournfangs. (The ones that pull the Scrap Launchers & Ironblasters could as they are now. The canon says those are younger ones, so it’s fine if they look different.). It would fit well if they’re releasing a character who rides a Rhinox… or a mechanical one.

[@ogretyrant8531]

What I think would be interesting is if they use the Daniel the demon prince mechanic for Mr man eater and the man eater captain lords which will allow you to equip weapons and armor on them instead of them having a skill tree or something. I don’t know somthing similer to Daniel would be interesting and would allow variations and you could have themed equipment from across the world like an empire set,Araby set,Cathay set and more.

[@mikkelangelokers9965]

Bro you are cooking. I never even thought of this. Ogres are the race that makes the most sense for this mechanic.

[@ogretyrant8531]

@@mikkelangelokers9965 thanks! Yeah it seems like a waste to use it only on the Demon prince and if was gonna be used for anyone else I feel like a mercenary faction like ogres or dogs of war would be the ones to use it on and who better then the man eaters who are known for being so different and diverse in their equipment. Seems like the best move to me.

[@leowei771]

So long they fix it by allowing the LL to equip ancilliaries and banners, it'll be great. Daniel isn't able to do that and he suffers quite a bit because of it (No extra movement, banners and benefits.)

[@OldManZolla]

Okoii's favorite video on this channel.

[@parkerdixon-word6295]

I would love it if the melee Ogre character had multiple variants- Dark Elves can train a Dreadlord and choose between sword&shield or sword&crossbow options, so it feels like you could get something along those lines for at least Maneater characters, since they're supposed to vary so wildly. But that also turns into a lot of wqork for CA.

[@charlesman8722]

Pig back riders but only if they get Sotek got to “AAAAAAH!!!” For the audio

[@david7019]

I can definitely see Bragg with an ability to remove Immune To Psychology to combo with some new Terror sources.

[@Mopars2456]

Ghark Ironskin, or Braugh Slavelord, would be great unique flc lords

[@chiddy786]

I agree. Would love to see Ghark and a mechanical Rhinox. That would be awesome

[@nagashtheundyingking4404]

honestly more late game gnoblars would be fantastic as they are a huge part of ogre lore and seeing all there late game armies with no gnoblars is a bit sad.

[@albertdrevdal4233]

I agree that there should be some sort of support gnoblar or mechanics to encourage ppl to use gnoblars in late game armies (some sort of sacrifice thing would be cool) but gnoblars units by themselves were always going to be crap, anything else would be wierd. If nothing else a menace below-esque summon ability would be nice

[@tylerhill3226]

Good morning, OGRES!

[@Shar482]

Ogremaster of Sotek, if you will

[@Vaegarion]

Man Biters, Pigback Riders, and Head honcho for sure. Though I wouldn't mind the Maneater captain

[@Zictive]

GIVE ME GNOBLARS!!!!

[@shark_2283]

i really want the pug back riders just for the jokes at bretonians expense

[@eomat]

I’d love to see CA make Ogres look like the races they would join. I want Ogre Mercenaries for the Empire like the one in Mordheim.

[@krikuvre]

Hello Sotek. Do you have any plans to uploading the Lorebeards Wednesday specials to the spotify playlist?

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Braugh Slavelord would be cool.

[@Lord-H]

Glorious Thumbnail 👏

[@OmegaIdiot]

2 handed mauls are winners for yetis imo. Soo good esthetic

[@Blastercadre]

I feel like the gnoblar head honcho can NOT be a lord. So it has to be the Man Eater Captain, and maybe they'll touch up the tyrant to differentiate the two. A gnoblar head honcho feels like it has the Gorgutz issue of very few ogres would respect them enough to make an army, and they could have a bunch of restrictions, but that seems lame. I guess they could be a hero or a buffing unit, but the many ogre heroes are enough and who is taking fewer ogres to have better gnoblars?

[@donpizzaplays8529]

I highly agree that CA should rework all the lords in the game to have most if not all of them buff a certain type of unit. This has worked extremely well with the new empire lord and hero engineers where it opened the way for some sick gunpowder armies for the empire. Having something similar for all lords and heroes could be awesome. This way it gives you more reasons to recruit a certain lord over another and it can make some armies more viable and fun.

[@GutsOfRivia]

I feel like Maneater would have come kind of mechanic to get Empire units through his mercenary dealings just like how Tamurkhan can get Chorf units.

[@funnylittlewormyguy4926]

i just really hope they go all-in on really nailing down the maneater identity, and use that as a basis for re-tooling the currently awkward contracts-and-camps system. Also love the idea of maneater captains (if not base maneaters as well) being highly customizable, like on the level of Daniel in terms of visual expression

[@yayomh]

In the mountains of the moor, you should have your normal cities, while other Ogre cities should be scattered all over the map, always located in mountains similar to how Chaos Warriors have it. However, the rest of the cities should be your main food source, so that you can raid them all the time, or build a city there and start getting food from the first building (the main slaughterhouse). You should be able to build up to three more buildings: Another slaughterhouse with -growth and +food. Growth building to maintain growth, possibly at the cost of gold. Defense building because these cities have very poor defenses. All of these buildings should be buildable multiple times, so if you like, you can have one main slaughterhouse (the main building) and three defense buildings to create a strong fortress. The camps should be mobile but with limited movement -75% compared to a normal army. You should be able to recruit and buff armies from them. They should have a stance that they lose buffs and recruitment but only suffer -20 movement. It would take one turn to pack up and one turn to build everything down. The main way to make money is contracts.

[@lightbringer1237]

Simply ogreful

[@GutsOfRivia]

I hope they give him a ranged weapon. Not a lot of people played with the Throne Of Chaos units back in the day on the table top but Bruckner had a pistol in his wargear but sadly they didnt give it to him.

[@sassyviking6003]

I have 3 majotlr wants for this DLC. I probably will not get all of them. But I would be extatic if I did. 1. The most important. They need something akin to the greenskin scrap system. This should be based on a courency they earn from completing contracts. I could spend paragraphs detailing how this is thematically and lore wise warranted. 2. We need a heavily armored maneater option. Heavy armor was always an option for them on tabletop, and given how expensive they were, it was basically mandatory. This would also shore up a glaring weakness of the roster. 3. Most out there, I think we should get a unit preferably, but even an ROR would suffice, of pistol wielding mournfang riders. It was an option on tabletop, it would increast an incredibly new dynamic to the roster, and the idea of ogre sized pistoliers is just cool as heck.

[@Shimatzu95]

How about giving golfang the greenskin scrap/augment mechanic, allowing him to "equipt" maneaters in that way.

[@Clottedone]

Just finished work… time to paint and enjoy this video

[@derekthomas2940]

Brother I waited so long for this. Great stuff.

[@Sticksnstones77]

Ogres need a Landmark at The Galleon's Graveyard. I don't care what it does but I would squeal if it did something insane like unlocking the Lore of the Deep for Butchers. Imagine the lore implications of a butcher eating fishy foods to cast water-based spells.

[@AJCherenkov]

I remember seeing a Dwarf roster mod that used the mount system to give engineers multiple weapon options. It would be really cool if CA used something like that to let Golfag or Bruisers switch weapon types between battles.

[@seanlyons2980]

I think maneater captain for the theme of the dlc Something people haven't talked about as an option is a head honcho as a hero instead. Give the gnoblar buffs that we want. Neither are merc themed, but sadly bruiser is more likely. Blood gnoblars as a regiment of renown like the boglars. Manbiters for theme and utility. Flingers sound like a good add, but my heart goes out to the pigbackers meme. I'm torn between Arbald the Undefeated and Ghark Ironskin for the FLC lord. I want both!

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

Ogre need a bit faction rework let camps walk they are sitting ducks 🦆 can’t protect themselves from anything who seeks them out 😅

[@Razielts1]

I'd say they could pack up and become an army in 2 turns for example.

[@hoodedwizard4695]

​@@Razielts1 nah, Camps should be like Black Arks on Land.

[@loganphillips2166]

Make him like Daniel the Demon, and then do something like the scrap mechanic for ogres. A non-permanent scrap mechanic so you can trade out armor piercing for anti-large or extended range for a blunderbuss shot as convenient. So that way you get that modifiable warband the same way greenskins do. And with how much CA is leaning towards the undercity type mechanics, I suspect that theres a chance that it might be the future of ogre camps.

[@johnny13x2]

I wonder if this DLC is gonna make me actually like Ogres. I'm already a HUGE Khorne and Greenskins guy. They are my main two factions. But if we get some real good mechanics and units? I'm definitely gonna be excited to play. Hopefully we get a good mercenary mechanic, I would really dig in at that point.

[@M0DIDDLY]

Predictions I think are pretty close to what we get. I think the Manbiters are pretty much in, and the 5th unit will either be one of the gnoblar variants, or a maneater variant of some kind. Maneater Captain as a lord also seems highly likely. I also wouldn't be opposed down the road for some kind of hunter lord (I've long held that every race SHOULD get at least 4 generic lords, but that every race NEEDS at least 3)

[@isthianlyon1706]

Nice video, big congrats for starting to move Queek out! Super excited to see it!

[@Cheletiba]

Great Ogre-haul and the Bruiser mod but just as the game? Also Golgfag Maneater being a standing up melee LL is enough for him to stand out tbh

[@nifo1013]

Loved this video! Always a pleasure! Really looking forward to this DLC! :D

[@meltingskeleton2082]

When I play Ogres, I use Mixu's mods to allow me to play the Shark tooth clan by Hexotal, in Port Reaver. I think Skrag is kind of lame and Goldtooth just doesn't feel like a leader, he feels like a gag that isn't that humorous in the first place. Man-eater's are so cool and the big Maneater himself is so cool. I look at him and think badass old-school Asian pirate. I also love me some Purple Sun of Xerus. I hope the lores of magic open up for more than just Ogres.

[@peytonbrown5394]

Hopefully we will get a full Dogs of War DLC that incorporates Maneater units, because I would also like to see Aranessa reworked as more of a living pirate faction that has access to Prometheans, Rotting Leviathans, Myrwyrms, Blood Vultures, Maneaters, Slayer Pirates, Sartosan/DoW units, Lore of the Deep, Lore of Tempest, Plus whatever artillery they deem appropriate. Something to that effect.

[@Noctani]

Gnoblar Head honcho, gnoblar flails.

[@mochiboot6502]

INCREDIBLY cursed thumbnail, ya love to see that

[@cdtray3940]

Drop the Bruiser for the Head Honcho and make them a hero rather than a lord and dropping the Maneater Captain. I wouldn't make aense having ogres in an army lead by a gnoblar, but having his favourite gnoblar as a hero leading the supporting hordes makes a lot more sense. Plus there's a lot of interesting things you could do with Maneater Captain and a bruiser will basicLly just be hero level tyrant which isn't as interesting. Then make the bruiser an flc bonus if you sign up/are signed up to that total war marketing thing.

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

I can already see an Ogre Army with Skrag and Bragg (heh, rhyming). Bragg rips, tears, and spills the guts while Skrag picks it all up and dumps 'em into his pot.

[@rabblerouserorc8649]

I will go with Maneater Captain, Manbiters, and Piggyback Riders; as those three will provide the most unique tweaks and styles to Ogres' gameplay.

[@sinsinsinat5377]

This next DLC seems to be very good. Its thematically in tune and is a rework for that factions required it.

[@Coerciveutopian]

Maybe they could do golfags random magic items by taking Daniel's system (just for weapons) and they change every few turns

[@tylerwitte4307]

Loremaster! Your hands! How hunt achievements with cleavers?!

[@scottjackson8771]

Some of the ogre characters from the floren and Lorenzo books would be cool

[@karacox6979]

While the honcho has some interesting aspects, having a gnoblar as a lord for ogres is just too far.

[@stevengray7279]

I spent this whole video waiting for Pig Back Riders. Sotek blesses me

[@donjuan2001]

If they add Gnobblar heroes a blood vulture would make a great mount for them

[@murmurrrr]

I'd kill to get the piggyback riders, my favourite unit in the entire fantasy

[@derekthomas2940]

Im really hoping the Thundertusk comes out savage like Dread Saurian level good

[@Aethgeir]

How does the Thundertusk eat? Like, how does it actually get food to its mouth? With no trunk or arms, how can it get food past all those tusks?

[@trixus4768]

Honestly, I would be pretty happy with the Bruiser hero (Ogres currently don't have a dedicated melee hero). But instead of gnoblars I would like to have some sort of early game anti large infantry - probably a variant of Ogre Bulls... When it comes to gnoblars... yeah, they are kinda cool, but I'm not paying actual money for a joke...

[@taddad2641]

NMot gonna lie i kinda wish that they gave you 'weapon customization' for your hero and lord units, at least just the generic ones. basically what they got in the tabletop you can apply to the characters. could give it the ismply limitation of jsut like, one or something.

[@atilla34503]

Manbiter Gnoblar to push Greasus? Buff Gnoblar for more GP (Gnoblar Power) output. As for the maybes? Maneater Captain for generic lord, manbiters and flingers for units.

[@MrRasta3600]

TW:W 3 has made me fall in love with the ogre kingdoms. I am so excited for this dlc.

[@jdurthu4304]

This is the first time I have realised that noblad man-biters aeven in the name are literarly smaller man-eaters... and I am speachless

[@zodrickzheioh7318]

As much as it would make everyone angry, and they definitely shouldn't do it. It would be fun if they did a Gnoblar FLC lord instead of Arbald and we got both the captains and the Head Honcho.

[@Sabcy2]

the Gnoblar big boss could also be a cav unit.

[@justonhelf7513]

A unit number decrease and entity size increase for Rhinox Riders would be nice. They feel exactly like the Mournfang riders, just with better stats.

[@nobey1kanobey]

Great video as always man!

[@pedroaquiles2074]

I love these speculation videos, first time hearing about the piggie back riders, seeing them on the battlefield would bring me so much joy

[@magma1lord]

Id imagine that the Hunters buffs will work on both sabretusks and blood vultures

[@Malusdarkblades11]

I think orgers need some solid mid-tier unit that can hold the line and tank some damage

[@TheMrYadrian]

Do you guys know when can we expect this DLC? I really like new units to Khorne and Ogres.

[@ogretyrant8531]

@@TheMrYadrian well we still have a big update at the end of the month then they said we will get more news after that or at the end of the summer which is next month at the latest. The dlc it’s self will release at the end of this year and while we don’t have an exact date I’m hoping for an October or November release.

[@euromanijak]

"i think in some ways they'll work better then carrion" I mean the bar there isn't very high xD

[@Blecco]

Maybe I'm gonna have the answers in the video, but I have to ask. Why does the Thundertusk have Chaos undivided iconography both ingame and in the miniature? Edit: I just wanted to add, I'm genuinely surprised the Gnoblar unit you wanted beyond anything else aren't the Pigback Riders.

[@Tiberium10332]

I hope so much for the Gnoblar Pigback Riders.

[@jayros4269]

The title should say "What Mawsels"

[@RealEvilLordExdeath]

Great Video, I would love the piggyback riders. I have ine wish: For them to invent a new lore of magic for firebellies, i love thise boys so much, i would love to see them have a "Lore of the Firemouth"

[@gnarlynarly1350]

the manbiters and blood gnoblars would be nice upgrades for the normal gnoblars and trappers but still wouldnt be too good still gnoblars ofcourse. Also the head honcho as a hero buffing gnoblars and the scrap launcher and it would have a piggyback mount and later a rhinox with trappers or blood gnoblars on the back throwing daggers. Honcho would mostly be support and not to beefy. then a bruiser hero just a full on melee fighter with an iron fist and a hand weapon more of a tank. with a mournfang and later a rihnox mount or maybe even a thundertusk. will most likley only get one hero but would be nice with two as the ogres really need some flavor. feel like greasus should be able to be off his wagon as i feel that it feels sort of dumb just my opinion. Also the maneaters should come with three diffrent aesthetics like some would be empire looking some would be cathay/nippon altough would make more sense with a cathay looking one and then we already have the pirate look. but if we are lucky one more and that could be a dark elf look or maybe a araby one and all these would have diffrent utilitys that would mirror the faction they look like maybe the empire one have a halberd and a pistol and the araby one have dual scimitars as examples. the new maneaters should be part of the rework I think. And iron guts should get a version with ironfists. srry for rambling and bad english have a nice day guys.

[@cdtray3940]

The irony that Golgfag in tabletop (in 8th edition at least) was really overcosted, even if you rolled high for his magic allowance, but he actually made Maneaters worse. Normally Maneaters units could choose any 2 upgrades from a list of 8. Golgfag allowed you to upgrade a unit of Maneaters to Golgfags Maneaters for free, but they had no stat or equipment inprovements, you were forced to take 2 specified special rules (from the same list so nothing you couldn't do anywau but just without choice) amd he had tonjoim the unit, couldn't leave it, and no other characters could join. So his Maneaters were no better than regular ones, you could effectively make the exact same unit without him but you had more flexibility. It was incredibly disappointing.

[@schmiddi5768]

Honestly what I want most of all is some reworking for Greasus, I love my big fat boi but he's in a pretty dire spot rn. The obvious one is a new model; I understand why his gnoblar carpet concept might not be feasible, but it feels like he should at least be riding on something grander than his shitty lil cart (big throne of gilded mammoth bones on wheels maybe?). I'd also hope he'll get some unique mechanics related to facilitating trade through the Ogre Kingdoms, something like being able to set tolls for caravans when you hold key crossing points. Doesn't need to be crazy extensive but I wanna feel like a mogul when I'm playing Greasus

[@KarakUngor-kb8bg]

Yeah, or something similar to the nurgling palenquins

[@gglanouille3060]

Shrek as Legendary Hero confirmed ?

[@bartoszwaligorski3533]

Gnoblars! Gnoblars! Gnoblars! Pigback riders, manbiters, lucky gits, honchos!

[@zxnin3rkw885]

great thumbnail great video!

[@MyTomServo]

They need to give their camps layers. Like ogres

[@Gibson7Clans]

I so want the piggy back Noblars. 😁

[@shanechudzik8554]

Little off topic, but when are we going to get a Norsca dlc? As far as I'm aware, they haven't gotten any attention since TWW I.

[@hircenedaelen]

I think the gutman would be better as a hero rather than a generic bruiser

[@gelphaze1229]

God I hope they fix those dame camp issues, its such a problem keeping your camps alive as Ogres.

[@akumaking1]

The Loremaster really let himself go in the thumbnail.

[@DiscipleofWrex]

I like manbiters better, having that ability to tie down and potentially beat the ogres most frustrating opponent: low to mid tier spearmen

[@basinox]

I am 100% on team piggyback rider, simply because that is the kind of unit that makes an outsider fall in love with warhammer

[@pedroauerlemos]

Unrelated question, but how are the thunder tusks supposed to eat

[@pokcmvmxckm2715]

The modded bruisers by Calm&NormalTime is to good, if CA adds bruisers it has to be on par or better then the mod.

[@OldWitchDoctor]

We need maneater ninjas with stalk.