ogx360 Build and Review

[@aprofondir]

I love how Australians are single handedly keeping the og Xbox alive (you and MVG)

[@21stCenturyGuy]

We need to try harder!

[@technocxt]

@@21stCenturyGuy Damn, why are we all out at 2:45 in the morning lol

[@danoV1c]

We need their collab in some form or shape

[@evertonc1448]

Oh yeah, let's ignore all the developers working behind the scene (like Ryzee, the guy that spent dozens of hours creating and testing ogx360 and open sourced everything to the community) and give all the credit to two KZbinrs making 20 minutes videos.

[@Hepglon]

don't forget Green Ham Gaming!

[@mini-_]

"Big thanks go to you for watching this video" has the same positive vibes as a game's *special thanks* credit part having "And you!" in it.

[@bland9876]

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[@johnmurcott1273]

yes

[@korumann]

or PBS, this broadcast is made possible in part by viewers like you!

[@itsCh4rl1e]

On the pressure sensitive buttons on the PS2, *all* of them were pressure sensitive, including the start/select buttons! I only ever saw one game make use of this though, Smugger's Run 2's map overlay would change opacity depending on how hard you held the select button. A kinda cool feature

[@adc_ax]

Metal Gear Solid 2/3 make prominent use of pressure sensitive as well, I think (pressing square to aim your gun - pressing it harder to shoot)

[@giovanniruggiero469]

Also gran turismo 4

[@Kyharra]

As a kid I'd always just press down the buttons really hard for no reason 🤣

[@cmsterranova5959]

Ive also notived gta san andreas make use of the analog button, pressing x lightly accelerated the car slower than if you were to press it harder

[@pepsiforbread1416]

L3, R3, Start and Select doesn't have pressure sensitivity. I would know since I have a PS2

[@Dyl_Apple]

3:18 I instantly recognized that iconic desk, I watch the 8 bit guy all the time, amazing channel

[@tjsase]

I see it now! Great channel, can't wait for his new studio

[@Dyl_Apple]

@@tjsase I know, I’ve been rewatching the studio videos, can’t wait

[@BenjaminAster]

Thanks for the subtitles, I really appreciate them!

[@CartoonNetworkGlitches]

All the KZbinrs that take the time to create captions right before uploading gets my respect

[@zachbrown7272]

as an EE, my mind is blown you got the results you did from your equipment, but that iron hurts my soul. I highly recommend grabbing a better one and even a cheap hot air reflow station if you want to do some more stuff like this. great video!

[@plasmagaming1886]

“Perifractic could be” a fellow retro recipes fan I see.

[@thecorruptedbit5585]

MattKC and his smooth references

[@argonptg]

Pcb stands for perifractic controller board. doesn't it?

[@Ocean_Breeze]

For future builds, you should invest in a hot air station. It makes reflowing chips super easy and you can do all the pins on a chip at the same time.

[@Beppe-cd3co]

So, where's lego island xbox360 edition? We all know you got it.

[@marschapo3917]

True

[@Tvrtko.]

Yeah

[@PureWar58073]

True

[@tchitchouan]

Yeah

[@becky1544]

True

[@WigWamSupernova]

This channel gets nowhere near the amount of views it deserves. Thank you for making such cool stuff and inspiring me!

[@cjaymeme]

Found my OG xbox for 20 USD at a thrift store. Worked fine, also found all the cables and a controller seperately in other aisles. Very happy and impressed with the console, considering its time. Glad to see appreciation for the console.

[@EriolGaurhoth]

The OG Xbox Dashboard was still the most stylishly awesome dashboard out of all the ones Microsoft has made.

[@notmuch_23]

*tests with Burnout 3 * Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.

[@sorakafutanari]

I see you too are a person of culture.

[@AmaroqStarwind]

A few questions/comments: 1 - Does it work with Xbox One controllers, like the Elite controller? 2 - You should get the XboxHDMI mod and the mClassic HDMI upscaler. Great combo. 3 - I love your channel and your content. Don't stop. 4 - You can probably use soft-modding to remove the analog button functionality on either a Global or a Per-Game basis.

[@petepromedio9159]

"ogx360 Build and Review" is definitely the best song from Kurohyou 2

[@rakesiar]

So true!

[@rley6428]

I cried when Tatsuya said "I am the Kurohyou 360" and ogx'ed Ryo in a blink. That's truly the most Black Panther moment!

[@radiantansel202]

Hey Matt, is been a long funny ride watching your videos, I really like your sense of humor. Something (seeing that you really like doing these types of things) that you can do on your cheapo knockoff controllers is to try to make arcade sticks with them, seeing that the console is already soft modded, you can totally access emulators and add a bit of spice to it, is not that hard and I had done that in the past myself. Still, thanks for this video! The OGXBOX scene is really goddamn wild sometimes.

[@markpdyson]

Wow -- this was so much more interesting than I originally expected. Thanks for posting!

[@coaleb]

Glad to see another perifractic fan.

[@spamton_main]

This is my favourite Kurohyou 2 OST song

[@Arcticly]

Fr

[@SheWhoExists]

If you do more work with surface mount components, I highly recommend investing in solder paste and a toaster oven to stencil the components on and reflow them. It's a lot more reliable and precise. The components also partially align themselves when you reflow the paste which is super convenient

[@smithincanton]

Toaster or reflow oven I think is what you were thinking of. Microwave would make for a bad time 😅

[@SheWhoExists]

@@smithincanton Toaster Oven. Oops

[@TheIronRafael]

Why I choose to still play games on an OG Xbox if I can: 1. Most of the games of that era run on DirectInput on PC, meaning that if you try to plug in your Xbox 360 controller or a Dualshock 3/4 you probably will get some conflicts in the controller because of the analog triggers. 2. I bought the OG Xbox official component cables and if you pair that with an OSSC you'll get a superb image quality. 3. You can also go for HDMI mods or plug and play HDMI cables, but I don't know about the quality of image of the latter. 4. You can have up to 16tb on one system if you mod it properly, although I do think that's a little overkill. 5. Insignia means Xbox Live 1.0 is coming back. So yeah, I'd really recommend the OG Xbox to anyone who can get it at a decent. Unfortunately, where I live it's still really expensive for a retro console, but I'd say still worth the buy if you can get it at a decent price.

[@Hexauslion]

i love this! i found out about the ogx360 about 2 months ago when i was looking for alternate ways to play steel battalion without the real controller called the mega jockey 9000 and ogx360 was the way to go utilizing scripts. "=yes the ogx360 can do scripts! unfoutunatly i have not been able to get my hands on one but i have seen video of this working!

[@MickeyMishra]

there's something about having original Hardware that just makes you happy.

[@Lethaltail]

“You’re special.”

[@jackcrawford304]

The Xbox 360 was already out for a year when I was born, but I grew up with the ps2 and burnout 3 was my game. I had a racing wheel and pedals and this was my favorite ps2 game and just played it last week!

[@NoodleCollie]

On a tangentially related note, I was looking at an open hardware GitHub repo with "Gerbers" myself today and I had no idea what they were for, but now I know! If I can actually build what I wanted to use instead of having it delivered then that should make my life a lot easier, given nowhere in the EU will ship to me any more after fucking Brexit. Thanks for the informative video!

[@Sheevlord]

Nice project! I was worried that such a device would add latency, but as your experiment demonstrated it isn't an issue. As for SMD soldering and unreliable contacts - I guess using a hot air rework station would help. If you are unsure if the part makes good contact with the pads just add flux and blast it with hot air. That's my guess at least - I don't have a hot air station myself. I really need to get one of those.

[@mronewheeler]

I bought a cheap after-market Gamecube controller recently. It was $20 and it was actually really good. The cord is a bit short but the joysticks feel amazing and the buttons are nice and snappy. Not quite first-party quality but not far off. As for durability though, that's anyone's guess

[@ryanmillar1314]

If you want an easier solution Brook wingman xb adapter now supports original xbox. You do need to purchase a separate og xbox to usb connector to make it work. But the adapter effectively lets you use most any modern controller on any generation of xbox.

[@TheNews1990]

@MattKC you can use a soldering station with a magnifying glass, and arm attachments.

[@GeneralChangFromDanang]

Helping hand. I got one for Christmas and really like it.

[@brendanrandle]

and a good helping of flux makes life easier

[@Revansstuntdouble]

I remember being able to buy type S controllers for $15 at Walmart. This was a few years after the Xbox 360 was released. I always thought they'd remain cheap, lol.

[@busterscrugs]

My homies and I still have Halo 2 LAN parties on OG Xbox. It's a really fun way to spend time with friends, especially when beverages are involved ;)

[@MellowJelly]

I'm sorta surprisd that the old controllers had pressure sensitive buttons like that! I had no idea. I can see how it would be annoying though

[@KapiteinKrentebol]

Also interesting is when you add a 360 chatpad to the controller you can play Steel Battalion with it.

[@Pickledman]

Found this in a Kurohyou 2 OST playlist.

[@krystiankowalski7335]

5:06 Anyone else see the “Kappa” Drive on the left?

[@jasperfox6821]

I found that over here in the UK at least, original xbox controllers are pretty cheap, I managed to get a official translucent blue one for £29.... I will say however, the 360 controller does help for games like Enter the matrix, because the shoulder buttons fire your weapons, instead on the white and black buttons.

[@chicagorc3967]

i play everything with the 360 remote and im there with you man! the OG xbox is something i will AWAYS love. Thanks for this

[@nu52927]

Whenever you upload it just makes me happy

[@Dogebreadzz]

I’ve been finishing the silent cartographer on halo on my og Xbox. It’s actually really fun and addictive

[@JonTheGeek]

THE PS2 HAD PRESSURE SENSITIVE BUTTONS WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BUT I KNEW PRESSING THE BUTTONS HARDER HELPED

[@lolcat]

Games like metal gear solid used it. Not all games

[@mason0190]

iirc only the x button and maybe the triggers were pressure sensitive

[@JonTheGeek]

@@mason0190 The ps2 is the reason I press X harder to jump to those this day I swear. This is an eye opener

[@misterbeetz]

Great video. I saw this one a while back and always wanted to build one on my own for fun. I finally just finished one and am really pleased with the results. By chance I ran into a very similar problem that you had. Initially I could not get the controller to pair up with the ogx360 so I flashed the debug firmware to run the tests which gave me the error: "MAX3421 Revision invalid. Value returned: 00" Upon googling this error I found that you encountered the same thing in correspondence with Ryzee119. After reading what was discussed I was able to narrow down the issue to the IC REG not fully soldered down to the pad. After fixing that everything works great.

[@jek__]

I dont think having to push the crap out of buttons is the fault of pressure sensitive buttons. I think its the fault of software developers not changing their code to work properly with pressure sensitive buttons. In theory you should be able to get more signal with a less sensitive press with a pressure sensitive button, assuming a binary button triggers at about the halfway point, but you need to code it to make the change at the tiniest detection, rather than just when reaching maximum value

[@fmwyt95]

the problem would then be a more worn out controller potentially registering false positives (think stick drift but for buttons) You could (somewhat) fix this by making the threshold something like 64 or 128 on a 1-byte signal but then it loses the response advantage you're arguing for since each type of button would have a similar actuation point. Personally I think unless you absolutely need analog precision, digital inputs are a much better choice due to sheer reliability, plus you could make binary buttons tactile without sacrificing precision and I am a personally a huge fan of tactile inputs

[@480i2]

I never thought I would be able to ad shoulder buttons on my Xbox. I’m buying mine today.

[@480i2]

Bought it today with a 360 controller

[@VintageTechRepairs]

I totally forgot about pressure sensitive buttons, ps2 had the same thing- still i can live without it. i need to finish building mine, Great Video

[@sbstndltn]

You absolutely need more subscribers.

[@catmachete2900]

The ogx-mini also exists now. It uses a raspberry pi pico instead. You just solder a usb port and flash the firmware and you’re done.

[@nuts5388]

Every time I see a new video from Matt I know I’m gonna have a good ten minutes

[@eukelarTV]

“All hands report to battle stations “ talk about fuckin nostalgic

[@arialbold2069]

Your nerdiness is so endearing.

[@joshuavincent7884]

10:28 you could just use a scope, one channel on the button contacts, and a second channel on the controller cable going into the Xbox, then compare the signals.

[@S己G]

When he said that you should never get a cheap aftermarket controller I knew I had to write this. I have a controller for xb360 that is aftermarket, and only has one thing, which may even be because it had come used with the console, the Y button was way too mushy. It is almost a perfect copy, except that the X button is closer to purple, (which I noticed when I compared it to my actual controller, included with my previous console when I got it new) and the fact it is a little lighter (Barely noticeable). It feels almost exactly as sturdy as the original one, which from what I know, is exceptionally sturdy. (How else would the original one survive a 6-7 years of being lucky if it weren't dropped at least once every 2-3 days)

[@ArtdesTests]

What I need is a vinyl record of the outro song

[@rustrp739]

Your background music enhances your videos so much, I love it

[@WarriorRazor]

That Perifractic reference was on point! I'd love one of these boards, I hate using the Duke's, I'll even take the broken one.

[@hrz_nrd4511]

I have build the open xenium from same author and is a lot of fun, but I should say prepare to spend money because is not cheap at all. Again if you enjoy doing electronics well is worth it.

[@GoTeamScotch]

The ogx360 is so great to play on. It supports xbox one and other bluetooth controllers too. Playing of Xbox games with an Elite v2 controller is luxurious AF. If you're looking for a pre-built internal version, get in touch with N64 Freak on the ogxbox.com forums. TEK Nemesis also offers good internal kits.

[@mossykr0w]

This video is like a nostalgia trip in someway? Showing that clip of footage from The Island and Burnout 3 Takedown.. wow that triggered many memories, great video! (Despite me being late by a month to watch)

[@mikeyp4690]

I love my OG Xbox! Recently made myself some DIY component leads for it, using the 360 component leads. Was looking at building one of these for my next thing to do.

[@epickiller30]

Man I'm a lucky guy, I always accidentally find some of the best channels that are not as popular as they should be

[@Patriot1791-BOR]

The og controller port was a proprietary USB 1.0 port.

[@tasty_cake6563]

Kurohyou 2 official OST moment

[@DevoutMeteor582]

here for the same reason

[@cosmicrdt]

Hey Matt just wanna say I love your content and every video is an instant watch. Keep up the great work.

[@lukemancini-crawford8614]

It videos are so addictive. I love them

[@Dyl_Apple]

Ikr, I can’t stop watching

[@alexs3216]

Now we need dualshock 3/4 for Playstation 2 😁

[@decameter]

The original Xbox was my first "Modern" gaming console! Previously I'd had a super beat up used PS1 when the PS2 was at it's prime...a beat up Sega Genesis when the N64 and PS1 were the IT thing...But then I had the XBOX original. It was the peak of performance in the era it existed. And I played SO MANY Games. Halo CE and 2 along with the Halo 2 multiplayer map pack. We ended up have 2 of the buggers, and would lan them together for parties! Playing Halo CE and 2 with 8 players WAS AWESOME! You know whats crazy? I have wireless third party controllers for Xbox Original! XD The quality of the 3rd party controller sucks but the wireless worked rather...well all things considering?

[@mysticprophecy5395]

>the PS2 had pressure sensitive button I always wondered why my car went the fastest when I pushed the X button hard when I grew up

[@Dyl_Apple]

My PS2 controller cable ripped so before fixing it I decided to at least try out a cheap ($10) after market PS2 controller and it actually felt great, exactly like a PS2 controller, I mean it did feel a little cheap but so did the original PS2 controller

[@Teste-gp7bm]

Cool. I owned both Xboxs and can think the controller S is still a bit better than 360 one. For analog games its the same but the 360 dpad is notorious for being badly designed and moving around, bumping the pad wall and not activating. Really frustrating for some games. I have some later revision 360 controllers and the issue is still there. Think one has to widen the dpad socket but never tried it. The fact that wired OG controllers had huge cables and the trip breakout was also great

[@ErdrickHero]

Aftermarket controller clones generally suck but Mad Catz made some really good ones back in the day. I had a transparent blue one for the original XBox, it was even smaller than the eventual Controller S redesign, though I got it for christmas when only the Duke was officially available. My dad wanted to play games with me on his XBox but my kid hands were too small for the Duke. Now I want a Duke for PC, but those hyperkin ones are too expensive. I don't have a soldering iron so I can't make my own adapter, and I don't even know if the unofficial drivers still work with modern operating systems.

[@Omegapork]

I forgot about the pressure buttons and thought my PS2 controller was broken when I was trying to play Gran Turismo 3 yesterday.

[@paolovisentin]

Please Matt, maintain this level of quality in your videos, it would be great, i love your humor and the windows 95 "beeep" for censoring your bad words xD

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

Finally, a good controller for the Xbox! I mean, the S was alright I’ll give it that but it’s not up to the standard of the 360

[@yesticles]

Logitech made really nice wireless controllers for the OG Xbox back in the day. Yeah, they're third party, but they were super high quality and compared well to the official S controller. Really nice d-pad, too.

[@HM-zk6rb]

I still enjoy popping in serious sam now and then on mine. As well as doom.

[@StuckOnAFireHydrant]

Oh man those service corridors on the pillar of autumn really me messed with me and my brother the first time we played halo co-op 😂. We ended up making a deal with out Uncle that we would trade our og xbox for a ps4 and it made sense at the time cause I had a 360 and most games were backwards compatible. Man... I do miss playing on the of xbox though. Some great memories were made... (As well as some fights but uh let's look past that 🤣). I wonder when these consoles will appreciate. I might have to pick one up soon... You know to make money not to relieve childhood memories... 😂 Great video man, keep it up!

[@-.-smile]

This channel is pure nostalgia

[@stanleychen3298]

Wow I NEVER knew PS2 controllers had pressure sensitive buttons!

[@CrocoDylianVT]

I know there's breakaway cables for the OG Xbox because there was OG Xbox controllers that used that connection, so I wonder if you can plug a wired 360 controller that way, specially cause if possible it'd be not just cheaper, but way, way easier, Xbox 360 wired controllers are just as common and cheap as the wireless one, and the breakaway adapter can be bought anywhere

[@TheFrenchy82]

it was a great machine ! Now things are changing because you can access the developer mode on Xbox serie S /X and use retroarch, but the grand mother of emulation was the first xbox ! Microsoft unplugged it in order to rush the launch of xbox 360 (my first xbox 360 , day one lived.... 1 hour and 23.. then the infamous ring of death.... never had any problem with my xbox before !). good video ! :-)

[@inkrpen]

Nice video! I definitely am going to make a version you can make to plug inside of the xbox to make it completely hidden.

[@IkaraPopsicle]

I've forgotten what the driving game is and you saved me

[@EthisProtogen]

I love the og Xbox. It’s the first real console I played

[@BernardTheMandeville]

Red Dead: Revolver on Xbox was amazing

[@YouvegotmailAKAEP1C_GHOST]

Now all you need to do is wire the port to the board from the inside so you don't need it plugged in. Should work the same as a USB port

[@dodgydruid]

I too use my 360 controllers for pretty much everything, its nice when games like Forza Horizon 4 automatically maps out the controller. For NES and SNES I have a pair of them cheapo SNES USB's which work pretty well and a pair for a fiver I paid back then, bargain imho :) I stripped my controllers down last year to isopropyl away many years of mangunge buildups, thing is they worked superbly despite being quite a lot of congealed humanjuices in the crevices, I don't think you can beat an X360 controller and I did hate the OG's phat bugger a lot as it gave me strain injury on the web between thumb and forefinger.

[@joumama72]

Found this on a kurohyou ost list

[@killertruth186]

Although Razer did made their Wolverine controller which it is also can connect to the OG Xbox. Because you can take the USB-A off and use what OG Xbox controller had.

[@FinlayDaG33k]

Wait... the PS2 controllers had pressure sensitive buttons? No wonder why I always did the most damage in Tekken.

[@megadeth369]

So cool. didn't know this existed . Love the channel !

[@rakesiar]

Why is this in the Kurohyou 2 OST playlist?

[@clydemarshall8095]

I would have killed for this when I was younger. I played Halo 3 and Reach first on 360 before tracking down an OG Xbox to play the previous titles as the Xbox 360 Slim 4 GB wasn’t backwards compatible even after installing a hard drive

[@NamedKid10]

I remember having the Original Xbox but the disc tray broke. I just want it for nostalgia and I want to play on the duke.

[@Kyharra]

Wait the ps2 actually had pressure sensitive buttons? I always just slammed the buttons down since I thought it'd help I knew I wasn't just a crazy kid..

[@jeredek9901]

It did, but maybe like 1 or 2 games actually used them, hence why they abandoned it on the ps4. You were just crazy lol

[@calowo]

I honestly regret giving my og xbox away. I even still own some of the old games which mostly are backwards compatible with the 360 which I fortunately still own (hell I even still own a PS2 and play it every now and then)

[@BrigetAstila]

Do you have sly 3 honor among thieves for the ps2

[@calowo]

@@BrigetAstila nah.. but I own Gta Vice city and GTA San Andreas which are the main ones I play. I have a lot more games for the ps2

[@diamondjebgold9906]

For me I’ve never minded pressure sensitive buttons on my ps2, but I don’t know if there worse or something on og Xbox.

[@livingthedream915]

I like the original Xbox too, you're not alone here.

[@horseypig8631]

0:01 I thought he was going to start doing asmr mouth sounds 😂

[@yeetingcheese]

Still got my XBox 360 right next to me. Good old XBox 360.

[@sadidshaikh934]

Let's see who wins the giveaway

[@SyCoREAPER]

If you weren't in Australia I'd buy your two Dukes without blinking.