oh jeeze I hope not

The Acoylyte in Star Wars could potentially change Palpatine's story and Plagueis'.
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[@river9548]

I find it quite atrocious that a show based on a part of Star Wars that so many people love and are intrigued about might get ruined by people who want to move forward so much that they abandon the very foundation on which they need to relie

[@gregmize01]

lucas film/disney in a nutshell

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

It’s more than that, too. They’re keep hiring people who either don’t like Star Wars to some degree or another, or seem to like the idea of a movie only half the audience enjoyed a little too much.

[@jameslikesit]

I was just thinking this lol. Like why is it so hard/bad for them to just keep what was already created in mind and expand around that? It's so arrogant to think that they can just do something completely new and disregard what made Star Wars what it is.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

How is that surprising? Disney are hell bent on destroying and subverting SW.

[@gunslingeras3867]

@jameslikesit: I agree. In my honest opinion Disney would have done alot better if they expanded upon the already existing lore. With spinoffs and such like they did with rogue one. Yeah it would take more time to make their profit back,but they would have had more success and a lot more hits than misses.

[@commonpotato]

Disney’s problem is that they don’t honor characters that have already been made they need to respect the characters George Lucas made

[@Himmiefan]

And honor the story overall.

[@arkangelgaming35]

They don't even respect their own characters. Reva for instance, she wasn't needed in Obi-Wan, I liked some parts of her, she had a somewhat likeable portrayal but some really conflicting writing and story so it's a character that should be developed further.

[@commonpotato]

@@arkangelgaming35Disney makes there characters too passive were they are not needed in the story

[@trvpmusic2569]

Yup they sh*t on every character George Lucas makes and make random new mary sue characters rather than build and evolve from his work

[@trvpmusic2569]

The acolyte can be a cool story and twist as long as it lines up with history and makes sense i heard the main protagonist the sith girl will be gay and exploit homosexuality due to the creator wanting a self insert and portrayal of herself i hope thats not true

[@fatnakedjimmyneutron]

If yall dont think theyre going to sideline Plagueis and totally retcon Tenebrous for strong diverse women characters, then yall have another thing coming.

[@JGburneraccount]

Oh I can't wait. The thing I look forward to the most nowadays is the critical drinker video that comes out after the starwars movie/show. His videos are way more entertaining and coherent than anything Disney has put out in years 😂

[@godisbald784]

„ThE fOrCe Is FeMaLe”

[@secondchance6603]

To paraphrase Churchill: Never have so many beloved characters been destroyed by so few for so long.

[@slanphere]

Star Wars new content isn't bad cuz "sjw" "woke." Its bad cuz of multiple other reasons. I wouldn't mind if tenebrous is a "strong diverse women character" as long as she is a good character, im good.

[@slanphere]

@@godisbald784 The force is female was Nike's branding thing back in the day, it has very little correlation to the stuff they put out nowadays. It was none of Kennedy's fault and has no correlation to the sequels, except for the fact, rey is the poorly written powerful main character, who tends to be a woman

[@phantomkrieger2744]

Nothing can top the novel’s characterization of Plagueis and palpatine’s relationship. The master who forged the greatest sith who ever lived, yet forgot to leave a place for himself. Rest easy in your grave Plagueis.

[@DavidWalker1987]

Agreed, the audio book chapter where Palps turns on Plagueis is beyond comparison. Theres nothing else in SWs like it.

[@senateurpalpatine]

Darth Plagueis was weak. I destroyed him.

[@nicklibby3784]

Which book is it again? I really really really want to read stuff about plagueis but I have no idea where to start or if there is multiple books or a reading order I have to do. I just got into the books last week and started reading shatterpoint, Kenobi, and Lords of the sith. But all the legends stuff kinda confuses me as to what books are apart of what series or how to get into legends

[@Spellweawer]

@@nicklibby3784 Darth Plagueis - legends and Tarkin - canon (he is mentioned)

[@DavidWalker1987]

@@nicklibby3784 Darth Plagueis - by James Luceno. Its a fantastic book/audio book. Lots of the old EU has aspects of it which are silly, or perhaps a little too flashy and not enough substance. Happens in any universe with lots of content. But the Plagueis novel has a subtle depth to it that puts it above everything else (imo). Its slow burn. So if youre wondering about it after a chapter or two. Just do it the justice and give it a full read. Guarantee that it will put The Phantom Menance in a new light for you.

[@satansforeskin8164]

The worst part about acolyte is knowing, like most star wars projects, that it could be SO COOL. if it wasn't in Disney's hands

[@DrEnginerd1]

I have a feeling whatever they do, it will be a major let down

[@viciouswindstalkers]

More and more, it seems like that. It's a hard feeling to get past. Maybe it taints the water, but what can I say? Maybe a dozen times bitten, forever shy?

[@michaelross499]

In Episode 1 Ki-Adi-Mundi mentioned that the Sith have not been seen in a millenia (when Qui-Gon told everyone that he fought Maul), which is a 1000 years. So if the Acolyte show is going to be set a few hundred years before EP1 that means the threat is largely going to remain not serious enough for the WIDER Jedi to acknowledge.

[@117MasterSpartan]

What’s the point of Sith training that girl then if no Jedi until obi wan and qui him face darth maul?

[@kurtmccathron3781]

Also “The Rule of Two” is explicitly stated in The Phantom Menace. So if there are many Sith it’s going to be pretty odd…

[@rector0455]

This was a bit of a plot hole in Episode 1, Mundi claims they're extinct with near certitude, yet Mace and Yoda know about the Rule of Two near the end of the movie. This is bandaged weirdly enough in the Plagueis novel (or it may have been Bane) where the Jedi become aware of the Rule of Two yet just due to lack of notable presence seem to suppose that the Sith simply went extinct sometime after it's creation. Which seems reasonable to me, after all with how often Sith turn on each other, it's something of a miracle that the Rule of Two survived for a thousand years. But you're right, for it to remain in step with the movie canon, these Sith need to be covert, illusive, and any conflict with the Jedi needs to end in no witnesses. Maybe it will... Though honestly, I'm not optimistic about Disney respecting the lore at this point. The more immediate problem I have is with the title, 'Acolyte'. The unspoken consequence of Bane's Rule of Two is that Sith Acolytes became a relic of the past. Acolytes were roughly the equivalent of Jedi Initiates, or students without a dedicated master, and the Rule of Two eliminated the need for them all together. There was only the Master and the Apprentice.

[@Sultan_Vader_VI]

Not rly bc the Jedi don’t KNOW the Sith got found

[@Sultan_Vader_VI]

Plus it might just be a thing like Darovit in the Bane trilogy where they either think that they’ve finally ended the Sith or that it’s just someone whose been driven mad

[@zacharyfett2491]

The current situation is nothing is canon. Things get retconned left and right with this universe and it’s really difficult to keep emotionally invested in the storyline if nothing matters.

[@seangrey]

wrong. everything pre disney is canon and everything after is just some angry lesbians poorly written fan-fic.

[@villadavid1997]

Nothing was retconned

[@zacharyfett2491]

@@seangrey I approve of this narrative. 😂

[@MV1890HHT]

Let's be honest here: Disney absolutely screwed up in the most spectacular way possible by trashing the Expanded Universe novels (which were approved by George and mostly considered canon). There was an established and highly regarded outline already in place that they simply needed to transform into live-action stories. Literally decades worth of celebrated material to draw from. Yet Disney decided to throw it all out and do their own thing. Then they had the audacity to belittle and berate their core audience for not approving of what they've done. That's like going to a car dealership to buy a new Ferrari only to be offered a used Fiat, and then told you're the asshole for not liking the car that they're trying to sell you. You're not going to want to go back to that dealership, and that's where I am right now with Disney's version of Star Wars.

[@markgregorygacosta531]

Not to mention KK had the audacity to say there was no source material. WTF!

[@zackzeed]

Good point. I'm one the same page as you. I haven't even watched anything after the second season of The Mandalorian, if i remember correctly. I have ZERO motivation for watching naything new Star Wars related these days because. Heck even since the sequals came out i've been disgusted by Disneys "work" with the Star wars franchise. No i don't think Everything is / was bad. My point is that my general motivation is zero. Which is sad cuz I do love Star Wars and everything related to it...

[@slanphere]

a lot of them weren't highly regarded. The only highly regarded ones were the yuuhzan vong, Darth cadeus, Star Wars legacy and Jedi lore (first schism, second great schism, founding of Sith order etc.) Most of the other stuff is not very highly regarded.

[@brooklyn8376]

​@slanphere so the Thrawn books, Bane Trilogy, and Plagueis novel weren't highly regarded?

[@slanphere]

@@brooklyn8376 forgot those, mb. I still think most legends content is pretty mediocre, with a minority of it being amazing

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

Tbh I've always been nervous about Acoylyte. I feel like it's gonna be the tipping point for a lot of people.

[@loliamnot13]

I think the tipping point done already tipped for most people dude

[@smeagol9119]

​@@loliamnot13 Every new show is the tipping point for these weak people

[@XxOM3GA75xX]

Kenobi was the tipping point Well at least for me

[@smeagol9119]

@@XxOM3GA75xX yet you're still here. Why? It's never gonna be 2006 again

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

@@loliamnot13 nah a lot of people say that, but then still watch all the content anyway. There's still people clinging on.

[@MaverickPilgrim]

They just can’t help themselves.

[@loliamnot13]

My greatest hope is that the sith in acolyte are “pretenders.” Plagueis mentions that he is the only sith ~ in the Bane line ~ but that there are many other pretenders. These are piss poor rivals to the true sith and it would be cool as fuck if the show ends with a confrontation of the main characters with tenabris and plaguis and they just demolish the protagonists and it’s sets them up for their own show

[@_MaZTeR_]

Tenebrous had multiple apprentices apparently trained in the ways of the Sith, but didn't have the title of Sith Lord as they obviously hadn't beaten one to claim it, such as "Darth" Venamis. It would be interesting to see if the show has multiple Sith pretenders trained in the Dark Side, which the true Sith use to their advantage to throw off the Jedi into believing there's nothing but children playing the real thing and are little better than the common criminal.

[@arkangelgaming35]

Tenebrous would train Plagueis then Venamis. Plagueis would then use Venamis as a test, he would kill him and resurrect him over and over mastering the ability to revive the dead... The day he would master this ability and would also hide his notes on it, he would be murdered by Palpatine.

[@captainflint89]

Sadly Disney are incapable of good ideas like this

[@Cobra1098]

Whenever I see a new Disney project these days, I take comfort knowing that there's people like Star Wars Theory who are either making their own Star Wars content or evolved and started making original content like Theory's Tales

[@garrettviewegh9028]

At this point, anything you choose, is canon in Star Wars. The EU? It’s not cannon. But Disney has muddled so much up with little consistency, that you *could* consider non-canon stuff canon. A headcannon. The way the EU, and first six films bridged many narrative gaps, past, and future, just made more sense.

[@brandonmunsen2790]

I’m not sexist but hopefully it’s not a woman director

[@dreamawake2670]

​@@brandonmunsen2790You're weak.

[@slanphere]

for him to complain about bricks and screws?

[@slanphere]

@@brandonmunsen2790 it wasn't a woman who directed the sequels. KK is only presidents of lucasfilms and gets the blame

[@fredrick42572]

I've been nervous about the acolyte since it was announced. I'm pretty sure the plagueis novel will not be honored and it's a shame. This show will most likely be non-canon for me as a sith enthusiast.

[@evildrporkchop4628]

I mean doesn't really matter what fans say lmfao its official canon no matter what

[@Cyborg647]

​@@evildrporkchop4628 boy the corporate will love you i bet

[@fredrick42572]

@@evildrporkchop4628 You do you man.

[@Needler13]

​​@@evildrporkchop4628official canon doesn't matter, especially if nobody buys it or watches it.

[@FriarJoe66]

People need to relax about canon. Some people like the new canon, and it has the advantage of having new content constantly put out. If you don’t, that’s okay, you can enjoy legends, and new canon fans shouldn’t demand that you “accept the new canon.” Everyone can enjoy Star Wars in their own way without hating each other. This is the way.

[@jibril2473]

Acolyte is going to be the TLJ of Disney+ Star Wars.

[@Mr.DirtNasty]

It’s so unfortunate the way this product has been treated. It will never ever ever recover under Disney. A lost cause at this point till some other company buys the scraps off them.

[@rawnchydeard4669]

My kids didn’t ask for anything SW this year for Xmas. They lost this generation.

[@villadavid1997]

​@@rawnchydeard4669Maybe yours didn't. But if you ever go to a Star Wars Celebration you will see that most of the kids wearing Rey or Kylo Ren cosplays. They didn't lose this generation at all

[@ZeroShaneBob]

@@villadavid1997 to be fair, that's a small tiny fraction of people. We can't know if they've lost the generation until about a decade from now. All we can do now is look at toys sales, and engagement with the brand...but all of that can be from adults buying the stuff as well, so those stats are not reliable.

[@villadavid1997]

@@ZeroShaneBob Toy sales went down for every big franchise. Kids nowadays don't want toys. Not to mention the economic recession and inflation in most advanced countries in the last few years, which also makes people to spend less money on these things.

[@ethangilbert4896]

@@villadavid1997nobody likes rey or kylo ren, they are cosplay kathleen kennedy characters, not real star wars

[@TheSuperSnake313]

Shes going to be the most evil and most poweful Sith to ever exist, without her there would be no Palpatine. Come on we know how this works by now 🤦

[@tyroneraman6395]

Yup, it's so obvious these days. Sad actually.

[@lukeharmon3454]

After taking a dump on obi wan, Luke, palps, bobba and Han I'd be shocked if they paid any amount of respect to our man Plague

[@banastic]

it would just de-canonize alcolyte, no chance that would be canon if they're just changing movies

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

The Acolyte being not canon would still harm the fandom and the franchise, the least of reasons being non-canon stories are still faithful to the source material.

[@banastic]

which is a reason why theory is on about won't happen@@teleportedbreadfor3days

[@BC08]

Decanonize the sequels, it’s the only way to save Star Wars

[@josermaiz]

The acolyte in high republic era phase 3

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

My fear for the Acolyte is many, but if I was asked to name my biggest concern for the series, it’s how they’ll approach the Jedi Order. I think this idea they had for the Jedi is interesting and is the kind of plot Disney+ has been lacking when they try to stretch out their shows. However, my problem also lies in the perceptive of the main character. The Jedi have been criticized by members of the fandom well before Disney as being hypocrites, cultists, kidnappers, most of which comes from those critics seeing the Order make mistakes and outputting them as therefore being evil. But it’s simply not true. The Jedi represent a higher ideal that we can strive to be; Living above temptation, helping those in need like it’s natural, unity, etc.. Star Wars isn’t telling us to be exactly like the Jedi, but that also doesn’t mean they’re emotionless sentry bastards, because they aren’t. And they’re still people, people make mistakes. The plot of the Jedi being the antagonists only works if the main character is an unreliable narrator. The fundamental truth is, they would never, ever abandon a world, let alone lie about their word, because they’re meant to be better than that. With all this stuff we’re hearing, coming from the people behind the Acolyte’s production, not even counting Disney’s history of mishandling Star Wars, I worry the Jedi will be portrayed as genuine bastards, that the Jedi who promised to protect this world in a manner that made them sound less like guardians of peace and justice and more like marauders, in exchange for a Force Sensitive child, are not pretenders as they seem to be, the least of reasons being this is not at all how Force Sensitive children are taken in by the Order. The Acolyte sounds like it will be Star Wars’s most damaging media yet. Just when we thought things couldn’t seem any darker for Star Wars.

[@a_fine_edition2746]

When I first read the synopsis and statements, I assumed it was referring to the Jedi as “the villains” in the sense that they were the antagonists for the Sith/Dark Side characters. Not that they themselves were evil. This new info has me much more worried. Jedi don’t just make deals and exchanges, especially for protection. Defending the innocent is one of their sacred duties, they don’t shirk that just because someone won’t give up a Force sensitive child. I sincerely hope there’s some sort of added twist or nuance to it, because otherwise this’ll tarnish the Jedi reputation even more than they already have. That’s like my #1 criticism of Filoni’s work, and doubling down on it is not what I want to see.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@@a_fine_edition2746 Ordinarily, you naturally believe they’re not gonna actually be *the villains* because the Jedi are literally supposed to be the opposite. But when you know the usual pattern Disney and Kennedy and co. has done in the years since the purchase, you find yourself also assuming the Jedi will really be exactly how the plot describes them as in contrary to what you naturally believe as a Star Wars fan. If the Acolyte will truly make the Jedi the bad guys, it will truly harm Star Wars more than anything Disney had pumped out since the Disney Trilogy, especially in the face of a fandom that holds members who thinks the Dark Side can be used for good and, most of all, those who think exactly what the Acolyte will seemingly paint the Jedi and their Order as: Arrogant, sociopathic, hypocritical, kidnapping, brainwashing, cultish hobo monks. It’s very likely this is a story written by somebody who does not understand the Jedi at all, who are meant to be something much bigger than us and thus something we are supposed to strive to be like.

[@sigmacademy]

The thing with the Jedi, though, is that they got involved in the local politics of a star power (Old Republic), and that is what eventually led to their downfall - trying to play nice with the current political administration of their day, and then getting burned in a regime change. They tried to pander to the Old Republic politicians in exchange for certain political benefits, but the Sith was ALSO in the political arena and vastly better at the manipulation of the masses and manipulating the right kind of compromised people than the Jedi was. Some of the highest ranks of Jedi also studied Sith holocrons (know thy enemy) for ways on how to understand the Sith and what their weaknesses was, but that also opened the door for subtle corruption at the highest levels of the Jedi Order (not to mention giving Palpatine is a TREASURE TROVE of Sith artifacts that he would have had to rely on other Sith to find for him over time (and being Sith, highly unreliable for the task, acquiring artifacts for their own ascent to power). Lastly, the Jedi couldn't allow family connections to cloud the purpose and vision of those they trained. This might have helped cut off potential avenues of manipulation or blackmail, but it also left the Jedi younglings with probable trauma of being ripped away from their families, and losing out on MANY years of connection with family, all of which could be contributing factors to Sith corruption.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@@sigmacademy There’s a problem in what you’re saying versus what the Acolyte seemingly wants to do to the Jedi: Whether you’re right or wrong about anything you mentioned, the Jedi never acted like what the Acolyte wants to portray and not even Palpatine, who purposefully blurred the line that laid out the Order’s independence in the Republic into all but dissolving via his own influence as a secret Sith Lord, turned them into the bargaining marauders the Acolyte has planned.

[@nicholasbaldwin5050]

I still don’t understand why people are even willing to give the show a chance? The warning signs for this show have been there since its announcement (which was shady in itself since it was done behind Disney PRs back). They don’t care if you like the show, a view alone, even a hate/curiosity view, gives them validation to continue doing what they are doing. At some point we just need to say enough is enough.

[@shaunbauer78]

When it comes to anything Disney, it's better to not get your hopes up therefore you won't be disappointed

[@P-C-Principle]

Star Wars needs to be in the hands of someone like Sam Witwer. Not Disney. I pray one day Disney loses its stranglehold on the franchise. Lucas has to be angry how Disney is absolutely graping his blood, sweat and tears

[@sisigs4820]

What I don't understand is why George Lucas thought it was a good idea to sell it to Disney of all companies. I watched the interview where he explained why he wanted to and needed to sell it, which is fine, BUT WHY DISNEY?

[@brendondowdy5651]

​@sisigs4820 people say disney lied to him but when selling something worth as much as star wars George clearly didn't care what disney was going to do or he failed to do any research about disney lol. I've always thought disney sucks but it's clearly George's fault

[@s3p4kner]

@@sisigs4820 He said in interviews that he thought he had shaken hands with Iger who would keep his word - whatever that was? George isn't a people person and Iger is know for his charisma, so was George used? Didn't he bring his army of lawyers? What was the agreement? I doubt we'll ever truly know. JRR Tolkein left instructions to his son Chris that while he wasn't averse to selling the LotR IP to someone when that time came.... NEVER to Disney.

[@starwarskid01]

I think another major concern is Headland's comments about how this show's going to be a reflection of the modern world.

[@jacksonyon5276]

I’ve been on edge about this show ever since celebration and the absolute woke things the actors and actresses have said. Then of course Leslie and her comments plus her background

[@ian-flanagan]

Woke is a warning flag, but doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll be bad. But the things they said made me think they’ve never seen Star Wars…. implying they’ll have the first female leader character… making the fandom safe for black fans…. SW not about good vs evil….

[@paradox2210]

@@ian-flanaganthat one guy working for Lucasfilm saying that Star Wars isn’t about good vs. evil at Celebration was an absolute clown. Tarkin destroyed a planet after saying he wouldn’t. Leia gave him what he wanted and he still blew her homeworld up. THAT is evil.

[@ian-flanagan]

@@paradox2210 Yes. And I don’t know about him in particular, but they seem to always claim to be life-long fans. Clearly never watched it.

[@paradox2210]

@@ian-flanagan Reminded me of that Amazon Rings of Power 'influencer panel'. Amazon deleted the video it was that damaging to its rep!

[@coolbro9809]

Same concern too Theory, because I don’t think Disney could ever replace the Plaguis book, Plaguis will always be canon, no one can change that, May the Force be with you

[@Nick2703]

I’d be amazed if the Acolyte was any where near good. Leslie was put in the directing chair by Kathleen for one purpose an agenda. I’m sure they could care less about legends or George’s vision. Let me know how it is I’d trust the people in here’s opinions.

[@lb2696]

Leslye even directly said she doesn’t know how to direct and you just “fake it”. Just like Kennedy pretends to know how to run the company.

[@bugs1285]

Potential spoilers. I’ve got some more details. So these raiders attack the village. A master and a padawan called Melody arrive to help them. Afterwards they find the sisters mentioned in the video. One is 12 I believe the other 4 or 5. Now the latter is taken, the other is not because she’s too old to be trained. The one who is 12 also grows a friendship with the Padawan Melody. Time skips and the village is under attack again by the raiders. People die as the Jedi don’t arrive. The main lead now older loses her people and in a desperate moment unleashes her power and kills all the raiders. Then Melody does arrive, but because she’s too late the few surviving villagers force the lead to kill her. She does and feels all alone and leaves the village with a friend. I don’t know the exact details of the rest, but I do know that she finds a Sith Temple and gets trained with other acolytes. The description said that the audience knows they have to fight and kill each other, but the acolytes don’t know this.

[@blitzkrieg2928]

Considering Plagueis was like 115 ~ when he died and Tenebrous would come before him they will either make up new characters or just mess it up.

[@ThomasTenma]

i wish they would do a 12-episode Palpatine/ plegaus series showing palpatine time as a Sith apprentice with his live action actor narrating the series

[@Darthpsychonis]

Plagueis was said to have served his master Tenebrous for a century before he killed him. That would leave the show a bit less than a hundred years to make the story and the characters they want before having to align with what the book said. That is if they even bother to address anything from the novel at all.

[@RaikenXion]

I was never interested in the Acolyte as soon as i heard Leslie Headland was the showrunner, a ex-PA to one Harvey Weinstein and has a NDA out so NO ONE can ever ask her anything about her time working for that monster (whether she brought woman to his office to be blackmailed and propositioned while she just turned a blind eye to everything), that's something i always found very suspicious about her. I think Plagueis WILL appear somewhere at the end or final episode of this series, and that specific character will end up drastically changed from the EU stories and lore; and be made to fit how exactly Lucasfilm want it. and 4:24 theory you're right that's Exactly what they ALWAYS do and sadly the main reason WHY Disney do this is because they simply don't want to pay the EU writers of those books and characters they created, "Royalties". that's why they change these things up slightly, one of the first ever original EU writers - Alan Dean Foster explained all of this in a interview a couple years ago with Midnight's Edge. And it's really sad too because he explained that he's suffering now with the big C, and really kind of needs those residuals for his treatment; true story. Disney are just scummy.

[@DaPleasantPheasant]

You make some excellent points here. I am fully convinced they will not portray Plagueis or any other character in their legend forms for that exact reason now.

[@RaikenXion]

@DaPleasantPheasant Yes Sadly it's the truth, it's the main business reason why Disney even made the entire *Expanded Universe* into their "Legends". So they can basically mine that treasure trove of REAL Star Wars Lore for characters and elements they can use in their new stuff, change it up the old "25% different" rule, and that's how they get around not having to pay any Royalties to the very writers who created those classic things. It's horrible how Disney have treated Alan Dean Foster lately, they owe him residual cheques for his TFA Novel, Spliter of the Mind's Eye EU novel, and now they own the ALIEN franchise (though Fox) his Alien Covenant Novel. He said they sent him a few cheques then suddenly stopped, and when he phones and emailed Disney they have never replied. Sounds like they're just basically waiting for him to pop his clogs tbh, it's disgraceful. That's why you can really look at everything happening to Disney right now and chalk it all upto Karma. But u wish moat fans were aware of this truth, were NEVER going to get anykind of Adaptations of the Thrawn Trilogy, Shadows of the Empire, or any other classic EU story.

[@snorom11aru23]

Plagueis was murdered 10 years before the Clone Wars, and he was close to 200, maybe 230 at that point. Plagueis was still a child under 10 when Tenebrous took him as an apprentice. What we don't know was how old Tenebrous was at that time. They will at least have to acknowledge Tenebrous, or his master if they stick to the Plagueis novel. But I don't think they will. I think they will just ignore it because NOTHING has been fixed at Lucasfilm.

[@williamthecreator2526]

Love you Theory! Helped me become a fan of Star Wars in general and I thank you for that

[@MariaSalazar-mr8rg]

Darth plagueis novel is my favorite book ever I would hate if they did anything to that masterpiece

[@nateavery2875]

"we had a deal." "pray I don't alter it any further."

[@arrannn123]

Just watch lesley at Star Wars Celebration this year and watch the part where she 'cries' and says "star wars changed my life".... that's all you need to realise that this show is going to be all about her beliefs, what she wants and the story she wants to tell. It's not for us, it's for her idea of the fans she wants :(

[@johnlhigh]

Darth Plagueis was a great book. Finding out how sidious came to be. He was evil before, so it fit

[@rector0455]

It blew my mind to learn that Palpy was still the Apprentice for half of episode 1, and that Plagueis was still alive in the shadows... Imagine a world where Disney isn't screwing everything up, and we could see Plagueis' time and maybe death animated in Tales rather than Ahsoka yassss slay qwen'ing as a toddler. 🙄

[@johnlhigh]

@@rector0455 palpatine took him out in his weakened state. Remember darth maul was palpatines apprentice. Rule of 2

[@hidude9919]

Plagueis didnt see maul as a true apprentice though. More of a trained assassin

[@rector0455]

@@johnlhigh Maul was trained as a Sith Assassin, a fighting machine, not a true Sith Apprentice, and this was with Plagueis' knowledge and blessing.

[@jamisonh911]

If they are going to have siblings on opposite sides I could see them potentially drawing from SWTOR with the twins, eternal throne, Vaylin as inspiration. To me that was a a very good story and after Luke/Leia and even SWTOR I think the twins thing has been done enough. Siblings, fine but maybe a younger sibling who the jedi wouldn't have sensed the force in yet with some resentment the Jedi took their sibling away and then the Jedi not come back pushes them over the edge. Plus, if Ahsoka/Ezra can teach Sabine the force then surely a group of Sith Lords could teach someone whose sibling was already force sensitive. Like how in the original trilogy Leia only showed force powers with sensing Luke but then later trains and trains Rey (sorry for bringing sequels into my comment). I'd be very interested to see Sith Lords potentially working together. Because all the average person or even above average fandom has seen is Palpatine. Just one Sith Lord. I am also curious about what they will do with Yoda. Even in the prequels Yoda is getting up there in age showing some lack of endurance. Make him a couple centuries younger and could we see Yoda in his prime? Maybe Yaddle, but that feels like a bit too wishful. We have all these great deceased Sith Lords lore that has never been explored in TV/film but video games and books explore it and people like it a lot. I just hate seeing prob like most Disney ignore all this well written already existing story content. I get you might not want to copy and paste, maybe have something unique but you don't need to change things just for the sake of changing them.

[@phatalphd5402]

Disney just needs to sell SW at this point....they have some ass witers, and a huge disconnect with the fans

[@jakethebank]

Plagueis does exist in the broad sense in canon even if the novel is considered non canon. There's a solid change we would get Plagueis by the end of the series. But as you said, they have no obligation to stick with anything Legends.

[@The_Stranger1986]

He's mentioned by Palpatine in ROTS so Plagueis is canon.

[@rector0455]

Darth Plagueis is mentioned by Palpatine in ROTS, so he does exist in canon in some form, though one could just as easily then say he was purely an invention of Palpatine to entice Anakin. The problem is that we know differently now and his story is one widely well regarded by fans, and Disney is almost certain to pave over it for something of worse quality.

[@AshanBhatoa]

​@@rector0455Yeah, I don't know - you folks just don't have a broad horizons..

[@rector0455]

@@AshanBhatoa You apparently lack the intelligence necessary to form a complete thought.

[@darthdracul8372]

Wait until we get a trailer

[@DerrickAliyas]

Palpatine-Anakin you ever hear of the legends continuity Anakin -No Palpatine-i thought not,it's not a story Disney would tell you

[@simplydezzy7930]

The "completely the other way" is so good😂💯

[@RaikenXion]

Acolyte will drop right toward the end of 2024, prob around Christmas i reckon, and i just don't think it's going to be what alot of people are hoping or expect. those words Leslie said regards George Lucas, that should be raising huge alarm bells to people right now regards this show.

[@cranberry2806]

Remember when you weren’t gonna cover Disney Star Wars anymore

[@PvtGuzman09]

KK: "we have no source material"

[@cameronhermann9400]

Firstly the Jedi wouldn’t have broken their promise, that’s the first issue. The other one is if this is supposed to be a show about Palpatines Sith lineage that these “Sith,” should be separate from Darth Plageis and Tenibrus, like a separate dark side sect independent of Palpatines Sith lineage

[@SuperAaron55555]

I still think there is like 75% to 80% chance that this show never sees the light of day

[@sharp52092]

It probably will, sadly. Now the Rey movie * shrugs * we'll see.

[@villadavid1997]

Dude, filming is literally done, and they are already doing some small reshoots. It's 100% that it will come next year around May or June.

[@SuperAaron55555]

We’ll see lol

[@Heyithinkhejust]

@@sharp52092hopefully that flops as well *farts* I’m tired of these soulless and forgettable starwars shows

[@captainhydra4291]

No we already saw. It's coming out next year. Cope

[@burtonthegrape9217]

They are going to change things, they think they know better then George Lucas and want to "Improve" his work.

[@_Dovar_]

"Oh my Gahd! The diverse acolyte! It's so inclusive and diverse and all that!"

[@alexisg1147]

If i remember well, Plagueis spieces lives for 450 years, and he was killed in fantom menace in his 200-250 and Tenebrus broke at least once the rule of two so if the people that are making the show care and know about star wars then that girl could be tenebrus first apprentice because Plegueis would be or a baby or a kid at this poit and if the species of tenebrus lives around 80 years then his other apprentice wouldn't even be born

[@Fracture_.]

The timeline is my biggest concern. Palpatine isn't born yet, nor is plagueis, potentially tenebrous, tho he would be very young, a child mostliky . But Tenebrous`s master is most likely alive then, and we don't know his name, but they are a male red twi'lek. Darth Plagueis was born 115 years before "The Phantom Menace." That alone leaves 85 years for the birth and training of Tenebrous, and the death of his master. Depending on Tenebrous`s age, his master is either very young, properly teenage, but that still leaves his master, which could be the sith that arrives at the village, we know nothing about him. But that kind of spoils the show, if they follow a similar timeline, so prepare for lore to be broken.

[@Jason-ul3bd]

yeah idk why theory has deluded himself into thinking plagueis and tenebrous will be in the show. i feel like he's purposely setting himself up to be disappointed when the show comes out. people can't appreciate an original story anymore

[@under_score3829]

​@@Jason-ul3bd Plagueis and Tenebrous don't have to be IN the show. I think most of us just don't want the lore to be contradicted. We're fine with original stories. You don't have to contradict what's there to be original. But the reason people expect they might be involved is because of the idea that the Sith are taking advantage of that girl's grief. So if the Sith are involved, those two are who the Sith were at that time. If you want to use different dark side characters, that's fine -- change your setting to an earlier year. Change your setting so that your original story makes sense. @Fracture_ Actually, Plagueis is older than that. I use the Ruusan Calendar, where A New Hope is year 1000. So Phantom Menace is 968. In 935, when Palpatine was 17, Plagueis told him "In human years, I would be well over 100." (Darth Plagueis, Ch 9) In Chapter 5, the narration says "One hundred years earlier, Tenebrous's Twi-lek Master had opened a small rend in the fabric of the Force, allowing the dark side to be felt by the Jedi order..." Meaning Tenebrous's master was alive a hundred years ago. We know Plagueis was recruited at a very young age (unclear; older than 5), and we know that he couldn't have been Tenebrous's apprentice while Tenebrous's master was still alive, at least not for a long time. Thus, Plagueis must have been a little kid (we know it's between 5 and 15; maybe 10) when the master was killed, and recruited by Tenebrous shortly after - 100 years before the novel. Thus, at the beginning of the Plagueis novel, he must be around 110 or so, fulfilling the "well over a hundred" line. The Acolyte takes place 100 years before the Phantom Menace, in 868. Plagueis, if these calculations are true, would have been 45 in that year, so Plagueis and Tenebrous would chronologically be the two Sith at the time of the Acolyte. So the timeline would be: 823 Plagueis is born 833 Tenebrous's master does the dark side thing; then Tenebrous kills his master and recruits 10 year old Plagueis 868 The Acolyte takes place when Plagueis is 45 933 Plagueis kills Tenebrous when he's 110 935 Plagueis meets a 17 year old Sheev Palpatine when he's 112

[@TheStarWarsCurmudgeon]

All you have to do is listen to the various interviews with the cast and crew to see what they are focusing on and what they think is good Star Wars. Bottom line is...Disney Star Wars is just bad fan fiction that I will NEVER consider canon with the possible exception of Rogue One and Andor.

[@DarthMalgusYT]

Id also like to point out that in cannon that one of the sith trooper legions is the tenabrous legion so i hope they add him in

[@jauregi2726]

"Darth Plagueis, probably the best Star Wars book ever written." 100% agree

[@editsmovementproductions]

Yeah totally I feel your concerns. Writers of these novels put time into research and imagination just for disney to come in like a bulldozer and completely disacknowledge there piece's. I feel it would let down the whole fanbase. Anyway, on a higher note, I hope someone writes a book about sith that come after snoke/palpatine such as darth talon. Anyway, great vid!

[@danscifi7370]

If this happens, i will not watch anything to do with Disney Star Wars. I will only enjoy George Lucas Star Wars.

[@mister_padilla6105]

It also became my favorite sw book when it came out.

[@madmikefollower6939]

That’s why they retconned the books and Plaguise’s appearance in the Lego game. Why retcon perfection?

[@cole71]

I can believe this m saying this but I’m done with Star Wars. Just exhausted at getting my hopes up to be disappointed. It’s so easy to just follow the path Lucas created with comics, books, and films. I’m out.

[@theinternetexplorer618]

This show is gonna the biggest pile of woke trash and we all know it. We all know it but we don't wanna say it for various reasons. Getting labled I suppose. Nothing about this show sounds good outside of the basic premise. It's a woke show and like most shows like that, there will be a hyper focus on identity above story telling. It's just obvious at this point what kind of show it's going to be.

[@nathaniel2366]

my man on his morty arc with the "oh jeez"

[@ariesstorm9577]

I mean the premise sounds good, it’s almost like the reverse of Seven Samurai with the Jedi not helping the village like they promised and it also helps to build resentment against the Jedi Order by the time of the clone wars and the rise of the Galactic Empire. We know from legends that one Sith Lord (Darth Millennial) broke away from the Rule of Two and instead of being hunted down and killed as a traitor, he began a cult of dark side prophets which Palpatine made use of a thousand years later. So what if the “Acolyte” does a similar thing and starts her own dark side cult or joins another like say, the Nightsisters of Dathomir and (this is far fetched as I am willing to go with this) becomes the Nightsister we know as Mother Talzin? In TCW when speaking with Dooku was Talzin referring to working with the Sith in the past? Or was it the Jedi?

[@Gevorg-Dvoyan]

Like this so Theory will see. I think a good thing to add in Vader Episode 2 would be Mace using purple Force Lightning on Vader. It would make sense because Mace would use his Shatterpoint ability to see a weakness in Vader’s suit and realize it’s vulnerable to Force Lightning. Mace would then use his dark emotions to conjure purple Force Lightning and win the duel with little difficulty. Please include this in the episode. It would be so cool.

[@Sultan_Vader_VI]

Honestly, if its 200 years before, hot take, it seems like its filling in time gaps in both canon and legends for who the rule of 2 sith were at any given time (since when guile and rampage were in power is not specified. That’s one of the things i feel canon and legends actually fit really well together with is filling the other continuity’s time gaps for who the banite sith were at certain times. For example, here is a compiled list of a rough canon+Eu chronology of the banite sith we know so far from bane to Sidious and his apprentices: Bane Zannah Cognus Millennia Sanguis Noctyss Vectivus Gravid Gean Caldoth Ry Nymbis Guile Ramage Tenebrous’s Master Tenebrous Plagueis Venamis Sidious Maul Vergere (kinda) Tyranus Vader

[@actiondk2279]

Wahoo! Happy holidays all!

[@Volthoom]

You can do a separate SIth organisation that sprung up from some rando Force users getting inspired by Sith artifacts and that, in the end of the story, get wiped the fuck out by the Rule of Two Sith in order to prevent the threat of Sith existence getting discovered by the Jedi. In theory, it can work.

[@UninvitedGhost]

And after doing a few vids with proper titles, we get this kind of title again.

[@Tomreese130]

Never forget that Leslie Headland was Harvey Weinstein's assistant.

[@arahmis]

0:31 yea & all those days ago I remember thinking you were alone in that sentiment. I knew it was gonna be ass or some drama was sure to surround it. Lol!

[@johnpoulton9446]

"Completely the other way!" ha !! I LIKE IT !!

[@jefferydriggers523]

Yeshua loves you all and he died for you confess and Repent and believe in Yeshua death burial and resurrection and you will have eternal life

[@StefanGoedhart]

How many times do we have to explain that LEGENDS is the real canon. If you keep getting your hopes up for Disney's rewriting of history, then you will keep getting disappointed. It's the definition of insanity.

[@christopherdorrin8790]

Through some of the legends material there was always a small mention of people who were interested in the sith and the dark side who were not necessarily sith themselves but more like groupies. There were also force users who were also dark side users also not tied to the true sith. This series could theoretically revolve around such people without actually stepping on the toes of legends material that we feel are still cannon such as Plagueis. After all Ventress was first introduced as a dark sider claiming to be sith but wasn't actually a sith.

[@P4NxC4K3]

Disney: "who is darth plagueis?" Us: "yeah, that checks out."

[@TeamDaemon1980]

*Godzilla* *x* *Kong* (pronounced Godzilla *and* Kong) I'm starting to think my most anticipated movie of 2024 will be Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire. I believe it can make over a billion dollars for Warner Bros. like Furiosa could. Since I was a child who loved animals and dinosaurs since watching Dumbo (1941), I've been a big fan of Godzilla and Kong. My first Godzilla toy was one for Mechagodzilla when I was about 6-years-old. Now I've never really been into kaiju movies. It's never really been my thing. Between kaiju or Jackie Chan films, I'd pick JC. The more attractive niche films. So far, I've seen only 7 Godzilla movies and 4 Kong movies with GvK included for both. But ever since watching Minus One about two weeks ago, all I've been doing is watching Godzilla videos on KZbin and scouring the Internet on which Godzilla toy to get next. I'm starting to think Godzilla is my favorite fictional character or at least top 5 and over a legendary character like Darth Vader! I mean, who are we really rooting for underneath that Vader suit? A charred up, decapitated Anakin? Godzilla would just stomp on Vader without knowing it. Add the fact that he heals so fast, has his atomic breath, and nukes won't kill him. So yesterday, I downloaded three movies not only in 1080p but in 10-bit HEVC (High-Efficiency Video Coding).... Thor: Ragnarok (my favorite MCU film) Avengers: Infinity War (2nd fav MCU film) Godzilla vs. Kong (my favorite G & K film) Man, they're so clear! There is a noticeable difference when downloading a regular 1080p over a 1080p in 10-bit. They look so nice on my Pixel 3 next to my Season 1s of Andor and House of the Dragon. I was planning to get more 1080p/10-bit for my favorite Indiana Jones and Star Wars movies but I couldn't find any at 10-bit and under 3 GB per movie is my limit. I was watching GvK yesterday and the way both move is the most realistic for any Godzilla and Kong film. Godzilla used his tail to split open a navy ship. In the Toho ones with a guy in a rubber suit, Godzilla can't move like a real animal or dinosaur. While I love the Heisei design the most among the Toho Godzillas, there are too many limitations to how Godzilla moves. He can't swing his tail like he can if he was in CGI. Ever since getting my Hiya Godzilla KOTM Exquisite Basic a day after my birthday (Dec 5), I'm starting to think the Legendary/MonsterVerse Godzilla is becoming my favorite Godzilla of all-time. I initially didn't like his design due to Godzilla having a smaller head which makes him look fat. But as I watch scenes from other Toho films, I'm starting to appreciate the second American design of him. I do like the Minus One design but he's back to the 1954 size of 164 feet. MV Godzilla is the most realistic design with the most realistic movements for a giant creature that stands at 355-393 feet. That's how he should move. Same applies to Kong. He's no longer a guy in a gorilla suit. Stop-motion and animatronics have their limitations. MV is also more accessible for an American audience like myself. It's a much deeper lore than you think if you read more into it. Wait for the next GxK trailer when we get our first glimpse of Shimu. Favorite Godzilla Designs 1. 2019/2021 (KOTM/GvK) 2. 1991 (GvKG/Suit A/Shinjuku) 3. 2023 (Minus One) Favorite Godzilla Films 1. Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) 2. Godzilla Minus One (2023) 3. ????????????????????????? I used to have Godzilla (2014) as my 3rd favorite. But I rewatched it recently and it's just too slow and dark for me. Bryan Cranston did act his ass off. Aaron Taylor-Johnson's character felt so bland. It's weird rewatching it now when ATJ and Liz Olsen portray a married couple in it only to be the Maximoff twins a year later. It's like watching incest between siblings or Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher portraying a married couple prior to making Star Wars. I don't really know what's my 3rd favorite Godzilla film anymore. Maybe KOTM 2019 because I like his design better because his dorsal plates got bigger over the 2014 ones. Went back to the 1954 spine design. Godzilla kicked ass in it while GvK feels more like a Kong movie. I didn't care about all the emo scenes involving Vera Farmiga and Millie Bobby Brown in KOTM though. Felt forced. Eleven is not even my favorite character in Stranger Things. Vera was great in Hawkeye. Or maybe my 3rd favorite is the 1954 one? Classic music. Classic Oxygen Destroyer story angle. Was the best Godzilla film until Minus One came out. GxK will end up being top 3 because I love both characters and it's going to be a blast watching them team up together. It's going to be silly like GvK was but it's the silly/campy fun from the 60s/70s Showa Era but looks far better thanks to CGI. I want Skar King and Shimu to also be badasses. MonsterVerse similar to Captain America: Civil War is becoming more WWE. The Godzilla IP's popularity is at an all-time high with MV and -1 and is capable of being the new big blockbusters replacing the waning interest for superhero movies. There is something badass watching titans / kaijus fighting while cities are getting destroyed around them. Think of all the Avengers films and Captain America: Civil War but multiply the character sizes by 50-60x more. Who doesn't want to watch giants fight? Watching Godzilla and Kong fight Shimu and Skar King will be epic. Watching Godzilla and Kong fight nearly 3 years ago was already epic for me since the first film I saw of them was their 1962 film. When we see both running in that GxK trailer, it's a copy of Infinity War's first trailer. I believe Godzilla will return the favor and save Kong's life this time. Kong will probably lose to Skar King. Kong may even die in it since he usually dies in his films from gunshot wounds. GxK is starting to look like a buddy cop movie in line with Lethal Weapon and Rush Hour but with kaijus! The two icons are going to end up being homeboys and I predict it's going to be my favorite or 2nd favorite Godzilla and Kong film ever right next to GvK. I think GxK is going to be the Infinity War for kaiju movies. GvK is more Batman v Superman / Captain America: Civil War. They fight for one film but team up later. I predict GxK is going to break a billion and it's going to make more money than Deadpool 3. 👀 People are tired of superhero shit. I thought some of y'all hate Disney and you want to watch them fail? I don't see another MCU movie by Disney breaking a billion until Secret Wars. GvK was the most pirated movie of 2021 and made $470M when most theaters hadn't reopened yet. The events of Monarch: Legacy of Monsters is between the 2014 and 2019 G films. It's going to leave clues in anticipation for GxK. Godzilla rules! I think he's better than Darth Vader and Vader was my favorite movie character for a very long time. As much as I love Indiana Jones and Star Wars when I was a kid, they're both outdated for action/adventure films. They were great in the 80s through 00s when we were still kids with lesser expectations and experiences, but their action sequences have been surpassed by modern IPs. There are too many hokey moments in IJ and SW. But once they cue John Williams' music, your nostalgia kicks in. I had Revenge of the Sith over Infinity War among my favorite films. But when I was rewatching Infinity War yesterday, I realized it really is the much better film. The action is way better. Not just space samurais with laser swords doing backflips and using telekinesis. And I find all the spaceship battles from any SW film boring to rewatch. Watching Anakin fight Obi-Wan and Yoda fight Sidious was cool in 2005, but it's not as cool as Godzilla fight Kong in Hong Kong. Without lightsaber duels, Star Wars is generally an overrated, boring franchise to watch for me regurgitating the same Anakin story. I only care for Andor among SW these days. Revenge of the Sith was cool to watch for 2005 but not in 2023. CGI and fight sequences have gotten so much better since 2005. At some point, certain action sequences for classic movies become outdated and it's our childhood nostalgia that keeps us at remembering them fondly. Godzilla x Kong and Furiosa are contenders at breaking a billion next year. Both coming from WB. Who predicted Barbie and The Super Mario Bros. Movie would become the highest grossing films of 2023? Nobody.

[@cockles007]

what did I just read? 😂

[@mrrobovter4535]

Bro, please stop with these titles

[@mattias9411]

Id like a book or series on Darth Zannah after Bane

[@robertcollins2052]

Darth Bane trilogy are my favorite books. Really wish they would have gotten out a Darth Cognus book before they stopped with legends

[@michaelschuman117]

This show is going to be complete shit

[@Dr.Doomsday19]

this is 200 years before anything you can just say this is a couple generations of sith down the line

[@michaelbakhtiar9256]

Thanks for keeping us updated and totally agree with you wish to tie in canon or legends

[@originaldarkwater]

Completely aside from the fact that Disney doesn't respect the legacy of Star Wars at all, their constant efforts to paint the Jedi/good guys as evil and the Sith/Dark Side as sympathetic and even good are really weird and concerning.

[@DanielJohn19]

D has insulted the old fans while spoon feeding garbage to new fans.

[@josermaiz]

I want to see the nameless in acolytes very scary creatures

[@yinpalm9616]

200 years could easily be before tenebrous time in the sith, and these "sith" might not be from the line of bane, they could be a fracture from the sith empire, possible escaped sith brotherhood types, or people from the line of Bane that were culled before or during tenebrous early times.

[@CottonHill91]

Every time acolyte gets brought up i can't help but be annoyed by the fact we're still ignoring that the "force is female" crew has completely embraced weisnteins right hand woman.

[@simonpearson5150]

Happy Christmas theory

[@views4rmthasix596]

Palpatine never said plegus was “HIS” master. Plegus could’ve been a rule of 2 sith long before palpatine. That’s my mindset & it doesn’t break CANNON (RotS)

[@epiczk0n141]

I doubt anyone at Disney even remembers who Plagueis is. No way they’ll respect the novel

[@firenze6478]

There will definitely be some memba berries shoved in for some cheap nostalgia. That’s all Disney is good for these days.

[@epiczk0n141]

@@firenze6478 True but it’ll all be references to Palpatine’s eventual rise, nothing substantial or new

[@midnightzero3760]

The Plagueis novel is amazing im reading it right now, it deserves its own movie. Give star wars to James Luceno already!

[@ChiefCrewin]

Oh god...I just realized as you kept talking about Palps...what if they make it so there was a powerful wamen behind him all along...

[@Crystantemum]

The synopsis you outlined at the beginning sounds like such an entry level origin story and its so upsetting. I've accepted that some things will change. I just wish they took some of the Legends and changed it to fit the new canon. This character for instance, the Dark Side sister. I think it'd be much cooler if they just take Darth Zannahs story shell and interpose it here from the Rule of Two books. Bane slipped his way through history and mafe it to the new canon. But I wouldn't be upset with Zannahs consciousness surviving in her body because she was good with the more magical sides of the Dark Side. Then just like Bane, shes been passing her consciousness as well. Maybe her conscioueness has faded over the centuries but comes back because of the hate for the Jedi brought about by the failed deal. Then we have a mystery component through the show/movie hinting that an "Ancient" Sith has been active and thats another level of whats been messing with the Balance of the Force all this time leading to Anakin and the Skywalker prophecy. This may be too shoe-horned in, but I think it'd be an interesting base for new people and have tangible connections to get the Legend Era fans invested as well

[@haydenhughes2702]

I really hope they follow plagues, but I’m keeping my expectations low.

[@Mediocre_Spidey]

3:32 I believe that is the goal

[@adamfernandez5674]

I really believe they're going to toss out all that great story telling to "tell my own story".

[@josh7827]

The expectation is that the "Acolyte" becomes the good guy and chooses a path that isn't Jedi or Sith so she probably won't even be related to the Plagueis master and apprentice line. Disney has consistently introduced their bad guy characters and made them into their good guys in each of the spin-offs. Mando, Boba Fett, the sister in Kenobi... They'll do the same with this spin-off. No way Disney has the guts to center their show around an actual Sith.

[@MarcWeavers]

plagueis is canon, and in ep 3 in the mentioning of him, it seems implied that he was palpatine's master, from the theatre for the light show when palpatine talks about plagueis, and from when anakin finds out that palpatine is the sith lord, thats my interpretation of this.

[@Dayrile123]

Every new Star Wars project has to be watched with pretty low expectations at this point right? Which I never would have said before the sequels...