Oh No! Alex Jones Can't Use Bankruptcy to Avoid the Sandy Hook Judgments

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[@LegalEagle]

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[@senorchewie]

Can we get a funny video. So much sadness in the world I want funny law man to make me laugh.

[@MijmerMopper]

I will keep asking you to cover the Sovereign Citizen movement. Cargo-Cult for Legalism.

[@eattherich9215]

@SupermanPrime777: speech has consequences as Jabba discovered.

[@nian60]

You have a spammer in the comments, if you haven't seen it yet.

[@CelticNotts]

I don't know but could I ask whatever it is can you not use the phrase welch in it. its a racist phrase used to discriminate historically against Welsh (originally welch) people

[@Rin-jc1kp]

I will forever remember the judge in the sandy hook case saying “You are already under oath. You have already violated that oath twice, today. (…) You may NOT tell this jury you are bankrupt. That is not true. You may not say it again.”

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

For me it was when his lawyer accidentally sent a copy of Jones' phone that included a bunch of evidence he previously claimed not to have! That's not a self inflicted gunshot wound, that's a self inflicted _cannon_ wound!

[@olstar18]

The thing is. Is it that he is not bankrupt or that the companies he is involved with are not bankrupt.

[@Rin-jc1kp]

@@olstar18 She meant both. He told the jury that day both that he was bankrupt and that his company was bankrupt & making no profit except on supplements, which the plaintiffs then disproved with proof of how much money his company makes per news segment and per year, as well as the thousands of dollars he personally spends on lavish expenses in a month. So… yes. Just yes. Lol 😂

[@olstar18]

@@Rin-jc1kp Nope just nope. How many of those lavish expenses were cost of running business. Have no reason to believe anything from the prosecution in political witch hunts.

[@lordofinnistrad8757]

He is bankrupt in a couple ways. Namely, morally and ethically.

[@jonro1091]

‘The default judgements meant I couldn’t defend my cases’ ‘What led to the judgements?’ ‘Not complying with discovery orders’ Not quite on the level of sending sensitive documents to the opposing counsel, but still top tier defence there.

[@Bird_Dog00]

My read is that he knew he was going to lose badly either way. So he went the course that allowed him to paint himself more as the victim for his target audience. Now, to any person blessed with even half a working brain, the "look how the corrupt, leftist, woke, commie-nazi, ect... courts wouldn't even let me defend myself just because I refused to take part in the procedings" -stick wouldn't fly off course. But his fans will lick it up...

[@wildcardftw]

@@Bird_Dog00this is the classic right wing move- giuliani, bannon, and trump have all used the tactic, you lose a bunch of money in sanctions BUT you can grift back ten times as much from your cult followers!

[@gurkagurkadurka6688]

@@Bird_Dog00 You know they will. To them the world isnt about facts, its about feelings. They like Jones, so he can do no wrong in their eyes. They like Donnie, so he can do no wrong in their eyes. There is scant rational thought between their waxy ears. Just a lot of swirling emotion.

[@JindraAG]

By refusing to participate in the case, I was denied the ability to participate in the case, which I am now claiming is my right.

[@martijnvangelder1902]

@@gurkagurkadurka6688 and then other similarly politically minded people claim that facts don't care about people's feelings. Well, I don't care about Alex Jones' feelings.

[@GothMoth_exe]

Love that the fact that Jones admits on his show he wants to "keep them in the courts for years", and the victims' lawyers respond by using those same courts to tighten the financial noose. Props to them.

[@nerag7459]

I'd be upset if he could do a villain monologue and the court pretended he never said anything.

[@neonwired4978]

he really doesn't help himself by giving them evidence of his intention to abuse process.

[@esmith8818]

Hell, they were even able to play clips of his show where he's badmouthing the judge, the lawyers, the plaintiffs, the witnesses, and even THE JURY

[@wadespencer3623]

That's cause they actually have good lawyers, and Jones has no filter and just talks about his plans on air.

[@randomations11]

He literally can't stop contradicting himself. He lies about it every day on his show, and then the lawyers find it and use it as evidence. The only people dumber than Jones are his viewers, who's only view on this case has been what he says about it.

[@devinphillips9704]

"Alex Jones could've avoided all this drama if he just paid what he owes." He could've avoided paying it entirely if he hadn't decided to make his living by being a liar.

[@Tjalve70]

Alex Jones wouldn't be Alex Jones if he didn't make his living by being a liar. No more than a cat can stop being a cat.

[@aceofspades9503]

Or even if he had the good taste to not loudly and repeatedly slander families that had lived through a national tragedy.

[@YvonTripper]

@@Tjalve70 He admitted in his divorce proceedings that it was all an act. He can tell the truth when he wants to, he just realized that people will send him money for peddling false hate propaganda.

[@carlholland3819]

most of the public figures in this country make their living by being liars

[@nelsonquintanilla748]

Alex Jones has been right on what he said

[@FrankiePhoenix]

If Alex Jones is worried about money, all he has to do is pull up his bootstraps and get to work! He lives in America, he has all the opportunities. All he's gotta do is stop buying coffee and cancel Netflix, and his debt will be paid off in no time, just like he suggests people with medical debt should do. He'll be fine, he shouldn't be worried as long as he's as hard of a worker as he expects us to be, he should still have plenty of money left over.

[@PeteOtton]

OHHH He owes so much money, it would take him a few crooked life times for him to pay it all back. I kinda wish there was the ability to keep him alive just long enough for that to happen, while he lives in a squalid studio apartment and drives a car he doesn't know if it will work or not. Preferably working in a factory on a line working 4 shifts.

[@aceofspades9503]

Yeah, he just has to stop buying avocado toast for breakfast and he will be fine! 🤣🤣

[@Plexiux]

​@@PeteOtton From my cursory search, his income under the bankruptcy agreement would be about 520k, He only needs to work for 3000 years to pay off the debt, and that is assuming he has no other expenses or taxes to pay on that.

[@watcher235711]

Yes! Cancel that expensive cell phone plan Alex. (I loved your comment sir!)

[@PeteOtton]

@@aceofspades9503 He looks more like a pound of bacon and three eggs kind a guy to me.

[@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121]

Any bad news for Alex Jones is great news in my books. You don't get to claim bankruptcy to avoid accountability and then.... continue to spend money and own assets. I'm glad this worked out the way it did, but it really should be a no brainer

[@shnellmybitenshtaag300]

Yes you do actually, its litterally what its for

[@aleksandracomolaola]

Alex Jones is to pay 1,5 dollars for defamation pretty much, Merck settled for less then 5B dollars for injuring 60 000 people with vioxx, after they made 12 B dollars on the med. Do you really think this is fair?

[@lVideoWatcherl]

@@shnellmybitenshtaag300 US bankruptcy law is for avoiding legal repercussions due to guilty judgements in court? Seems oddly specific, and also terribly unjust.

[@isaiahgeorge906]

@@shnellmybitenshtaag300 No, it's for a financial fresh start, not to get out of paying people what they are owed via a legal court order.

[@JFergel]

@@shnellmybitenshtaag300 fahrt schnell TF outta here

[@pansepot1490]

Blows my mind how much money some people make by lying and scamming people. And it’s perfectly legal.

[@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr]

yeah, how can our excessively complex system of 10s of thousands of laws not cover such an obviously malicious and morally wrong act. if the system can't punish this man, then the system is severely broken.

[@GabrielRodriguez-oe9li]

@@hefayu1075”but are they lies” …YES, duh

[@garettanderson6772]

Just look at the DNC.

[@ilmostro16]

@@hefayu1075In this case, with Jones, yes, yes they are lies. Look beyond your cognitive dissonance.

[@H240909]

@@hefayu1075 They are. That’s what this whole thing was about.

[@erf3176]

Alex Jones: Refuses to show up to trial or pay judgements against him because he doesn't recognize the authority of the courts. Also Alex Jones: Wants bankruptcy court to protect his assets.

[@Nixeu42]

I know, right? Dude apparently wants to be a martyr for his cause...without actually suffering even minor inconvenience for said cause. I'm sure his followers would say something about how that would be letting the system win and stifle his voice or whatever nonsense. But the truth is, Jones could just lose it all and start over from the ground up. He's not going to jail, and he's not getting executed. Nothing is stopping him from going bankrupt, paying his debts, and then starting Infowars 2: Electric Boogaloo. Nothing. If the cause is all he's interested in, he would let himself become an example of how the government is corrupt. King did it. Gandhi did it. Lots of people have done it, and suffered far worse than losing a fortune. But Alex Jones, quite frankly, doesn't have the backbone to stand by his words. He doesn't have the courage to stick to his story under pressure. He tries to weasel out of responsibility every time. I'm just gonna come out and say it: the dude's a coward. He wants to be able to stand up to authority, but he can't do it when face-to-face with authority. Or when he's faced with the people he harmed with his lies, for that matter. He can only do it when he's tucked away safe in his studio. And that, honestly, is really what disgusts me about Alex Jones.

[@alienworm1999]

I don’t think he really expects any of these tactics to work. It seems like he just honestly believes (or wants his supporters to believe) that he is simply above the law, and that participating in due process would hurt his brand image

[@carsonc29]

@@alienworm1999 I think youre right on that last part..he wants to SEEM like he is above the law and "fighting tyranny"...im 100% sure he KNEW this case wasnt gonna end well for him

[@firefly4f4]

Summarizing Jones' arguments for why the default judgements shouldn't count: "I wasn't allowed to participate because I refused to cooperate with with requests to participate!"

[@pyrock0227]

His actions and filings read as someone who thought they found a series of loopholes in the system, i.e. "If I don't participate, no evidence gets entered into record. If they enter a default judgement against me they can't prove the tort to be intentional and I'll just declare bankruptcy!" Then he found out his clever loophole wasn't so clever, or an actual loophole.

[@AegixDrakan]

@@pyrock0227 It was another *kind* of loop. And he's just now realizing how badly it snagged him. XD

[@bobspldbckwrds]

Oh come on, he cooperated. He handed that phone right over.

[@jlev1028]

Same logic as Trump.

[@donaldwert7137]

"I shot myself in the foot and now it hurts. No fair!"

[@TLDelapore]

One of the biggest faults of our court system is how repeated, malicious perjury in civil cases cannot rise to a criminal offense.

[@zorimanar2247]

​@@cheechandjong897 Perjury isn't an opinion, it's legally proven LIE. A lie isn't an opinion, you're just wrong, and you knew it. If it's an opinion, it's not perjury. If it's perjury, it's not an opinion.

[@Octa9on]

​@@cheechandjong897perjury isn't an opinion. it's taking an oath to tell the truth, then saying things you know are not the truth

[@rasengdori13]

@@cheechandjong897

[@simplyharkonnen]

@@cheechandjong897you “MUH FREE SPEECH” people are just as bad as Sovereign Citizens at this point

[@dandotvid]

@@cheechandjong897 opinion and stating things as fact are two different things.

[@Michalosnup]

Pro legal tip: if you want to use trickery to disobey court orders, it's probably not a good idea to brag about it on social media

[@MrClickity]

"I really pulled one over on that fool. He's such a sucker!" "Dude, I'm standing right here." "...shit"

[@wavestrider2160]

And if they do, they should be punished with a bigger senteance It shows that those people didnt feel guilty about their crime

[@gmailisaretard]

I disagree, makes the judges job pretty easy from the looks of things.

[@sterlingmarshel6299]

narcists can't help themselves - he will be a footnote in history. Contributed nothing to society

[@LucanVaris]

Me: "Pfft. Like the Feds will ever figure out that I embezzled millions from the Swedish Embassy." Feds: *_"Ahem..."_* Me: "...I ...plead the fifth?"

[@dasstigma]

Love how proven liars use "I am very honest and they are lying to you" as the last defense. Hate how there seriously are millions of humans who fall for it. To quote one of them: Sad.

[@yossarian00]

"It is easier to scam someone than to convince them that they are being scammed."

[@jd190d]

All the trump supporters continue to fall for that lie.

[@sasserine]

Jones' refusal to comply with the discovery process prevents him arguing he was denied the opportunity to defend his actions. He played himself.

[@boeingseven6939]

Yes!! Was just gonna say the same. But he did state his case on a popular podcast show. He admitted that the initial complaint of fans going to CT was after him rambling on the air. And once he took notice that fans were going up there to start trouble, he tried to rebuke that initial rambling and ask his fans to stop what they're doing. But as you just said, when the law asked him to show up for discovery he ignored it (or refused). So now... he has no choice but to appeal right?

[@WMDistraction]

His bankruptcy defense was literally, “Judge, I wasn’t proven guilty of these things IN COURT (because my conduct outside of court and during pre trial was so flagrant it didn’t need to be put to trial).”

[@mikearendt9221]

Honestly, considering some of the witnesses that would have been called, this was probably the best possible outcome for him. If Dan Bidondi had taken the stand, it would have been disastrous for Jones. Dude is like Alex x2 and even less articulate.

[@Narrator1]

@@WMDistraction More specifically, "Judge, I wasn't proven guilty because I wasn't given my shot in court to defend myself. Please ignore that I willfully refused to show up in court on multiple occasions and bragged about my refusal to do so in front of a live audience."

[@santiagogarza8121]

Not really. He knows that admitting that he's a liar and a grifter means his career is over, while here, even if he loses a lot of money, he doesn't lose his credibility to his audience and thus can keep on making money.

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

Alex Jones: *brags about avoiding paying victims* Court: *punishes him* Alex Jones: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@JapanesePiano1]

Just a reminder that when Regal Stone Ltd spilled 53,000 gallons of oil into the San Fransisco Bay, they only had to pay $44.4 million. His judgement is purely political.

[@kid10249595]

Probably because he thought he could weasel out of this like a lot of other companies do. The trick in the hat though is that he doesn't have nearly as much money as they do so he can't pay to make this go away.

[@pierrecurie]

@@kid10249595 The other trick is to be sneaky and not publicly brag about doing the weasel thing.

[@Haan22]

This ongoing Finding Out for Jones is balm for the soul.

[@jonathonpolk3592]

Honestly, I think it's because these people have become so effective at fighting in the court of public opinion by politicizing facts that they're utterly unprepared when an actual court doesn't let them get away with it.

[@Mrinsecure]

As it turns out, repeatedly and publicly bragging about how you're going to abuse legal process to avoid accountability is not something that the courts find amusing, especially when you spend literal years dragging out your trial due to failure to comply with basic requests.

[@jeremydale4548]

Honestly the fact that he isn’t in jail RIGHT NOW for contempt of court is sickening

[@Mrinsecure]

@@jeremydale4548 Perhaps, but I suspect if Jones continues to screw around, he will find out just how good accountants can be at finding money that other people are trying to hide.

[@SugarandSarcasm]

Who could have foreseen that?

[@blakksheep736]

Didn't know it's possible to publicly incriminate yourself worse than SBF did, but here we are.

[@horrorhotel1999]

turns out it lets you enjoy the high life for all those years, gives you publicity, and doesn't carry any additional penalties though, so overall it is still a net positive for Jones, especially since he still gets to spent all the money he technically owes without any restrictions

[@callumprice1710]

Choosing to deliberately not comply with discovery so as to try and hide your money, as well as file bankruptcy, and say you are filing bankruptcy to avoid paying money SHOULD BE CRIMINAL. He should be in JAIL and assests TAKEN.

[@thebargainshack6901]

If you leftists think that awarding a bunch of middle class people BILLIONS of dollars because they essentially got their feelings hurt, then you're sick, twisted, and insane. This is nothing more than political persecution. And, you can't get blood out of a rock. Jones doesn't have, and will NEVER have billions of dollars. He can't even earn any serious money anymore since he was cancelled, which underscores the real reason behind this ludicrous verdict. It was all about destroying Jones, and not about compensating the families. Btw, he did comply with discovery. He sent over his entire phone, complete with all records.

[@nyctomint]

@@thebargainshack6901 oh look, mr bargainshack is here again to give us great discounts on his intelligence. thanks bud, glad to have you around

[@BBJBS]

I hope Alex can find solace in the fact that no judge will ever be able to block his moral bankruptcy.

[@GrandmaLoves2Scuba]

Good one!

[@erinmalone2669]

👏👏👏

[@CourageOfMyConvictions]

Underrated comment

[@blakksheep736]

👍🏾

[@yusriyahbagheri8843]

Just wait like 10 years and it's gonna turn out to be true. Knowing all the bull going on who the hell knows.

[@PlutoniumBoss]

See that's the crazy thing, you can't argue that you haven't had a chance to defend yourself in court when you have made every attempt to avoid showing up in court.

[@GuyInAChair3]

Alex did have the chance to defend himself in court. Connecticut and Texas have the strongest anti-SLAPP laws in the country. In the 4 cases (3 in TX and 1 in CT) he filed an anti-SLAPP lawsuit. Lost all 4, then he appealed and lost all 4, then he appealed to the Supreme Courts and lost all 4 again. Alex has had more then enough chances to fight this in court and has lost every time.

[@MrOnay-px1jx]

He was found guilty before he even showed up and wasn't allowed to defend himself. They only wanted him to show up as a mock trial and make an example out of him with the biggest order to pay in history

[@nosuchperson5578]

​@@MrOnay-px1jxlmao when's the last time you lived on earth

[@GuyInAChair3]

@@MrOnay-px1jx You should read the comments you reply to before replying to them. Alex had 12 opportunities to argue his case in court through the anti-SLAPP laws. Alex was found liable because he didn't comply with discovery. He was given the opportunity to put on a defence at trial, in CT he choose not to, and in TX arguably his defence was worse then doing nothing at all.

[@laplongejunior]

​@@MrOnay-px1jx Yeah, because the other 12 times he REFUSED to defend himself in court, and told publicly he did it on purpose to drag the trial. Mr. Jones decided to not be defended in court and shouldn't be surprised to be found guilty due to lack of a proper defense.

[@christopherg2347]

So, he is dumb enough to: - not participate in discovery, at threat of default judgement - get a default judgement against him - try to argue the default judgement is not valid

[@cmdraftbrn]

wait for the sovereign citizen shit to come out. and then wait for the "christian persecution complex"

[@AndyCutright]

He's not dumb, he's a con artist. He's pitching this at his marks, so they keep buying his products.

[@asheronwindspear552]

And then Trump copied the exact same legal strategy in the NY civil case...

[@paulmahoney7619]

I think this is mostly public performance, keep the spotlight on him and keep playing the martyr to rile up his fanbase.

[@TheNzFox]

Its my personal opinion that he thought whatever finical punishment he got via not participating in discovery would be less than that what he would lose if it came out he knew it was fake and was just conning his audience. Jones banking on the fact he could cry they 'never saw the evidence and are all bias', exactly like he is trying to do now, he just never imagined the punishment would be this high

[@cygnusereve4779]

Reminds me of bullies saying "I was just joking" after being a piece of shit and hurting their victims.

[@carlholland3819]

hurting with words or hurting with physical action?

[@cygnusereve4779]

@@carlholland3819 both. (But not necessarily at the same time). Like spreading rumors about someone (words). Or pushing someone around and knocking them down "by accident" (physical actions)

[@asterya6913]

@cygnusereve4779 Please don't waste your time with this person. Their an Alex fanboy and are arguing in bad faith in multiple comments.

[@ChristianNeihart]

​@@asterya6913 firstnamelastname bunchanumbers? Yeah that checks out.

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

I love how one of Jones' arguements basically boils down to "They sued me in a way to prevent me from weaseling out of paying, therefore I should be allowed to weasel out of paying."

[@suitov]

Yeah. More projection than a planetarium there, and practically an admission that they were right about his intentions.

[@audiblevideo]

I struggle not to say reprehensible things about reprehensible people, or wishing ill will on anyone, BUT Alex Jones brought this all on himself. I hope he shares a homeless tent with Rudy.

[@andrewharrison8436]

Furthemore, I won't believe he is bankrupt until he is sharing that tent.

[@TangoCharlie-mz8lh]

Bruh, I don't even want them to afford a tent

[@stevechance150]

Boiling hot tar, and feathers. It sent a message to all who witnessed the criminal. The message was our town, our community does not tolerate his behavior.

[@deriamis]

It’s good that nobody really needs to say anything about him, then. The facts are damning enough on their own. The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine. Alex was always going to end up where he is now because he is a terrible person who is literally incapable of discretion. We only had to wait for him to finally screw around with someone who had the motivation and resources to do something about it.

[@isaacmcdaniel6278]

The tent would melt from the sheer heat generated by Jones ranting and Rudy's mystery chemicals he calls hair dye

[@NybergCarl]

That Alex Jones can drag this out as much as he has is a shortcoming of the US legal system. Having to spend 15+ years of one's life to get justice in a case where the harm is ongoing... it's not right.

[@fingerboxes]

Plus it's not like winning in court is going to make the people who listen to Alex Jones stop threatening the families. I wouldn't be surprised if it made the targeted harassment worse because it makes the alleged scheme seem deeper and to have more actors involved than initially thought.

[@MaBallzItch]

the harm is ongoing?

[@MERCENARYTAO1]

@@MaBallzItchI wouldn’t be surprised if they get a few hundred threats a week from his fan base. Even if only 1% is credible that’s still to much.

[@iamcuttlefish]

​@@MaBallzItchthe families continue to be harassed by jones supporters to this day, the longer he drags it out too

[@NybergCarl]

@@MaBallzItch Did Alex Jones stop harassing the Sandy Hook families when he was sued?

[@brandondavidson4085]

Every idiot ever: "I'm not going to show up to court" Every court ever: "Well, then you're automatically guilty of everything" Alex Jones: "Now, wait a minute..."

[@Haileycartero]

It’s the fact that he was openly taunting the families that he would file for bankruptcy to avoid paying them for me 💀

[@craigh5236]

The Devil will have to open up a new circle of Hell just for him.

[@Elaborance]

Yeah, he's so much worse than anyone ever before.@@craigh5236

[@exodia_right_leg]

@@RoganBits Grandpa, I think you have dementia…

[@christophergreen6595]

​@@RoganBitsbruh take your daily bleach supplement and look thru some back episodes.

[@GabrielRodriguez-oe9li]

@@RoganBitsthey already did in court lol Try again

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

I still can't believe Alex Jones is only 7 years older than me. Being angry all the time really ages you into 'old man' real fast. Doesn't kill you, in fact it can sustain a person seemingly indefinitely. But it DOES age them into old man face.

[@thebargainshack6901]

No, it's his drinking that's aged him (and screwed up his voice). And, he's passionate, not angry.

[@blakksheep736]

​@@thebargainshack6901 he's probably both.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

@@thebargainshack6901 Man I don't know what to call that if not anger. Passion can be restrained. What he's doing is just vomiting bile.

[@thebargainshack6901]

@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Many of things I've seen him rant about simply repulse and disgust him, like child traffickers, groomers, tyrannical government, corporations that pollute our food and water, etc.

[@joeblog2672]

The heart and mind must be sustained at all cost, whether they be filled primarily with good or bad. Lack of either is literal madness and thus one will choose one or the other at all costs. This is why some of the greatest and the worst can live beyond the numbers. Moral choices among all with beating hearts.

[@MixNix_]

Alex Jones is the type of person to cartoonishly keep running into rakes

[@scriptorpaulina]

Grrrrrr

[@notyourdamnbusiness8795]

"Psycho Bob"

[@darknight1220]

Surely THIS take is a Crisis Actor autistic demon space gremlin from Venus or something

[@BackYardScience2000]

​@@notyourdamnbusiness8795Sideshow Bob, you mean? From the Simpsons?

[@notyourdamnbusiness8795]

@@BackYardScience2000 in reference to Sideshow Bob.....but Jones is the entire mental institution.

[@WZahnle]

You can't refuse to participate, then turn around and complain that you didn't participate, and expect to be taken seriously.

[@DrakeSmar]

As a law student interested in Bankruptcy, you did an excellent job analyzing the problems with Jones’ bankruptcy filing and the issues within the case in a simple but effective way. Well done and well covered!

[@jackhemsworth7515]

Collateral Estoppel to me is legal speak for "You owe it, shut up, and pay up"

[@susanlynch1966]

Definitely, I'm English and our law system is quite different. It's great to be able to listen to this and have the situation explained.

[@JeffreyAllanBackowski]

Fake bankruptcy

[@jonathonpolk3592]

Agreed. The particulars vary somewhat based on which Chapter the debtor filed under, but the basics of dischargeability are the same regardless of Chapter. Hopefully the creditors were able to get some of those fraudulent transfers to his relatives put back into the bankruptcy estate.

[@jenni4claire]

Yes, my law student days are long behind me but I still find this channel educational

[@dannywatson4253]

Nice to see an irresponsibly rich man actually suffering consequences for his actions for once. Can only hope Trump gets a similar reality check soon.

[@AegixDrakan]

I will not be happy until trump is either in prison (unlikely) or reduced to starring in 3 AM infomercials to make ends meet. XD

[@FlyingFox86]

@@AegixDrakan In the same way that we should only be satisfied when Jones has actually paid his victims.

[@Raggu1]

​@@AegixDrakanI'd like to hear if you actually have a reason for hating Trump. I'm assuming you just go by majority rule and think "most other people hate trump so i will too"

[@noleftturnunstoned]

​@@Raggu1I mean January 6th seems to be a publicly accessible reason to dislike him. Once upon a time the right swore to uphold the Constitution.

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

They'll both have the last laugh and have a heart attack any day now.

[@evelynisland1816]

I do kind of find it funny that there is a law that basically says you can’t go to dad if mom already said no

[@reverse_engineered]

There has to be because you know plenty of people tried it.

[@bigbananabill]

it is very funny thats why a lot of funny laws are written someone does something so egregiously against the system something something its not illegal cause they haven't written it as being illegal, but it isn't legal either cause it goes against hte courts, have to come up with charges so on so forth iu think anyways

[@lukes9192]

@@reverse_engineered well for that and for the fact that incongruent rulings would create a disastrous situation for American law. It's one thing to judge shop, let alone find corrupt or incompetent judges (think the mob buying politicians or John Mullaney saying to find drugs by sorting yelp reviews of doctors from worst to best) It's one thing to reverse-double-jeopardy your case until it cracks or to hold the ruling in perpetuity. It's a whole third beast to have separate equally ranked courts producing mutually distinct legal precedents in identical situations, forget about the individual parties, that would just shatter the fabric of law in any remotely gray scenarios. At that point every court is judge Judy- probably still a very very high level expert on law, but ultimately can just throw the book out the window and arbitrate at their own discretion and do pretty much whatever they want, since hey, you can point to a different case that produced either result as an interpretation of law no matter what. And hey, that's allowed if parties agree. But probably shouldn't be the norm in the governments civil court, there's no room for the judicial branch to have that level of ambiguity. Both sides getting one bite at the apple, and having to elevate the case to specifically designed higher courts, is unheralded genius. If only we could figure out how to handle the top of that chain going corrupt before it destroys itself.

[@SpeckleKen]

It's essential for the common law to work, which is why it's been part of the system (as 'res judicata') since time immemorial. If something is still in use after 835 years it probably has merits!

[@WorldsTallestLeprechaun]

Isn’t admitting “I’m gonna keep them in court for years so they’ll never see a DIME of that money!” textbook moral turpitude? Shouldn’t Jones get into SOME kind of trouble for that?

[@bigbananabill]

probably. but then again it is the american legal system. I would say results ARE guaranteed, just not good ones, but that's false. people are lucky to even achieve something in the courts. if they're not filthy rich and criminally influential, anyways.

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

Only if he was poor.

[@fegrace_1]

Why hasn’t the government seized his assets? To hear how much he and his wife have continued to spend monthly on their lavish lifestyle is criminal and for them to abuse bankruptcy should have them living in the guts of a penitentiary!!!

[@dss-ri5zy]

RIGHT

[@somegeese]

pretty sure she divorced him and took the kids cuz he's crazy, right? like i don't find alimony to be crazy if he's making bank. or is this a different wife?

[@anjelica948]

Bc most of his assets are actually in his Parent’s name, not his. He transferred many assets/portions of his business into their name around the time the lawsuits were going south. Idk if that is a full proof way to keep the government from seizing it, but it definitely makes it more complicated and time consuming. But it is a common way fraudsters and crooks protect their assets, especially real estate. They often purchase property, but immediately set it up in a trust in a family member’s name. Therefore, legally, its not their’s, and therefore can’t be seized in situations like this. I think the only way the assets could be seized is if the government was able to prove that the defendant did this willingly and knowingly in order to hide their assets to keep them from the government, but that would be almost impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@LabGecko]

@@anjelica948Sounds like wire fraud / money laundereing to me.

[@martinsmallridge4025]

@@anjelica948I wonder if that places his parents own assets in jeopardy as well… I mean, they’re effectively trying to hide his assets so why should they not find themselves in the firing line…

[@deadcard13]

....how smooth-brained do you have to be to go on a publicly accessible broadcast and admit how you're gonna fraud your way out of a punishment?

[@nvelsen1975]

Makers of quantum stabilised atom mirrors study Alex Jones' brain to discover how to create even smoother surfaces. 😉

[@JargonMadjin]

You assume he has a brain?

[@Yewtewba]

​@@nvelsen1975that seems like a very wrinkly brained comment

[@WeebishSwed]

Especially when the lawyers/attorneys watch and keep up to date with his show.

[@wargamingsupernoob]

Couldnt his numerous clips of openly stating his intent to not comply be used against you?

[@sarazworld3811]

Not gonna lie, watching the legal system finally hold this guy accountable is MAD satisfying.

[@Unknown-jt1jo]

Sadly, the justice system seems to be the only thing that *can* hold these people accountable nowadays. I miss the 1970s and 1980s, when there were editorial standards, and mainstream media generally didn't publish outright lies.

[@gigmaresh8772]

And belongs in an issue of MAD Magazine 😅

[@genericscout5408]

@@Unknown-jt1jo That never existed, they just cared about reputation more. You still had people lying all the time, and careers being ended over lying. AKA McCarthyism.

[@Xur______]

I'm going to buy a bottle of super male vitality just for you

[@sarazworld3811]

@@Unknown-jt1jo Preach!

[@FireStormOOO_]

Alex Jones is the answer to "What if you did *everything* wrong in court?"

[@Pragabond]

*in life

[@NickiRusin]

​@@Pragabond*in the court of life

[@willywonka4690]

Trump might have him Trumped

[@Aaron.Thomas]

​@@PragabondI came here to say this

[@jackburton6462]

In life..... U sh*t on people like that for money and still think you did nothing wrong is just disgusting. I hope he enjoys it at the bottom. He laughed for a long time on top looking down. Welcome to the bottom Alex🫵

[@lukes9192]

You don't need to be a law expert to see how ridiculously embarrassing this strategy he's using is. "Judge, you can't apply the 'I can't retry a ruling I think is wrong' rule because I think they were wrong and want you to reach a different conclusion than they did"

[@joeblog2672]

Jones' approach so reminds me of the scripted WWF / E wrestling title matches where the bad guy commits some action to disqualify himself out of the match. By doing this, the miscreant cannot lose the title to the good guy due to his disqualification as he was not defeated by the good guy! Score 1 for the legal profession and 0 for buffoonery for now!

[@arturoaguilar6002]

@@joeblog2672 Yep! That's literally what he is trying to pull out (except that his audience sees him as the babyface and every opponent as the heel)

[@KnakuanaRka]

⁠@@joeblog2672How would that work? Wouldn’t that mean the heel loses the match due to disqualification? And yeah, I’ve heard comments that Alex Jones isn’t good at much other than hype, and would probably do great as a commenter or such in that industry.

[@joeblog2672]

@@KnakuanaRka In the wrestling analogy, the heel loses the match but not the title due to some corrupt idea in wrestling that the titles can only switch hands when they are won in victory, not handed over through disqualification. This relates to Jones' idea of trying to disqualify himself from the "title match" between the families trying to collect their money and Jones' resisting to pay. Normally this would be conducted through an appeal of the verdict and may yet come to that. But for now Jones tried to weasel (disqualify) himself out of the match by way of a bankruptcy write off. Jones' tried to lose the "match" via disqualification (bankruptcy) and thus leave the victorious families with only a moral victory yet no money (title) to show for it. I understand your confusion. When I made the original post it seemed a lot clearer in my head at the time. Realizing one's own mental clarity and putting such clarity to words can often be more challenging than one realizes! Thanks for your interest!

[@IanOBrien-g7u]

I love how debt like credit card or medical debt can be canceled in bankruptcy, but there are no way to get rid of student loans.

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

Well, obviously we can't allow Those Damned Kids to get a free ride! What would happen if everyone were allowed to pursue the career path they wanted FOR FREE? People having economic mobility and the chance to better themselves? Why, just think of how stressful that would be for the millionaires and billionaires who own those colleges!

[@LostInTheRush]

It's almost like it's deliberately rigged in favor of the rich walking trash who made those rules... Curious 🤔

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

Ok medical debt sure, you literally don't have a choice or you would have died. But credit card debt, yeah obviously credit card companies don't have as good lobbyists as the student loan banks. Also most people would realize that there's a solid 10 years after college where you have no chance of building a life for yourself with student debt, so it's just logical to accept the mark on your record and file for bankruptcy the year after you graduate. If the price of school would actually pay off in any reasonable amount of time it wouldn't be a problem. But a majority of degrees dont increase your earning potential enough. It's literally a scam

[@Plexiux]

Senator Biden championed the bill that did that. I found it funny when he made aleviating student debt a platform of his presidential campaign.

[@trwortham]

From my understanding, around the time the price of higher education began to swell in the 80s, filing bankruptcy to clear student loans became more popular. Attorneys and doctors would rack up eyewatering debt then clear it off. Being a bankrupt attorney or doctor was a lower opportunity cost than being saddled with debt.

[@mranster]

"Why, oh why do bad things...occasionally happen to bad people?" You win the internet for today, sir.

[@shadowldrago]

"Of course Alex Jones could have avoided all this drama if he just paid what he owes." Or if he hadn't claimed that yet another school shooting was some secret anti-gun conspiracy.

[@carlholland3819]

ya dont have any unapproved ideas and you wont get into trouble

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@carlholland3819 This wasn't an 'unapproved idea', this was a part of an ongoing grift.

[@illusive012]

They took our guns though he was right!!! Why can't the judge see that he was speaking prophecy

[@GothWolfRants]

@@carlholland3819It’s always the same strawman from you clowns.

[@Medgator]

Except the fact that is certainly was a conspiracy.

[@sam1812seal]

So to summarise: if you’ve been a complete bastard to people, and then upset the trial judges enough that they enter summary judgement against you, don’t expect a bankruptcy court to be your get out of jail free card.

[@psilobom]

"The risk I took was calculated, but man... I am bad at math."

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

"Oh no the consequences of my own actioooons."

[@AegixDrakan]

Let's not forget how he was busted for perjury and utterly disrespecting the process of the court, and now has the gall to be surprised that they're not letting him dodge the penalty. XD

[@johnsmithe4656]

@@psilobom I read your quote in Alex Jones' voice..... it's PERFECT.

[@JargonMadjin]

Jones is the type of person to snatch a Get Out Of Jail Free card from a Monopoly box and try to use it as defense in court

[@chaoticklutz3633]

The biggest glaring issue is how they need to establish a payment date and keep to it on record while upholding punishments liable for breaking such things. All they often do is just go "Ok you need to pay up" but never establish a pay-by date. So no matter who is on the other end, it will always benefit the higher-income folk cause they can do all sorts of loophole junk to delay/not pay back in due time. 100% bet these families will be seeing a dime once he is in Hospice care or dead. It's like that one shitty friend in High School who'll ask to borrow a dollar, they say they will repay back but then for the whole 4 goddamn school years they'd just go "Dude, it's just a dollar, don't worry, you'll get it eventually" and then they just never did.

[@goblin-alley]

erica lafferty, a plaintiff and the daughter of the principal who was killed at sandy hook, has been diagnosed with orbital lymphoma and currently has a gofundme up to help pay for her treatment. woman is literally fighting for her life relying on the kindness of others. meanwhile, this clown gets to do the legal song and dance to delay paying a dime to his victims, when there are people among them who could be using it for life-saving treatment. it makes me sick.

[@nvelsen1975]

Not really. The judgement is in. The people who were awarded compensation can simply have items seized and sold at auction if Jones fails to pay. "We've not agreed when I pay" isn't a stay of execution of the writs the court have issued. If anything I'm surprised the families haven't acted yet. If it were me I'd have had a towtruck waiting during the final court session and the car Jones used to get there would've been on the bed faster than Jones can say "Buy my new bone enhancer 3000 pills!!!!"

[@ARockyRock]

On an unrelated note I quite literally got the 5 dollars I was owed from this one guy in my high school after a year of nonpayment.

[@catprowlin3451]

@@nvelsen1975 The motion discussed in this video is the families acting. Their hands are tied except for responding to the legal balloons Jones' lawyers keep floating. Nothing can happen until Jones' company bankruptcy and his personal bankruptcy are resolved. They are still disentangling the multiple overlaps to determine who 'owns' what. There have been multiple contracts with other parties entered into by both Jones and his company (as in three-party agreements) that have been canceled once there is consensus which of the two gets what portions of monies owed to them. There are also ongoing motions about other things like a new employment contract between Jones and the company he owns, happening because the company bankruptcy officer cut his salary, and he thinks it's time for a do-over. We'll find out shortly if he's paid his personal bankruptcy lawyers yet, he was in arrears by $1 million last month. Two sets of lawyers will get rich before the families see anything.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

@@nvelsen1975 They did act. Jones declared he'd go bankrupt and avoid paying, the families said "Nuh uh". This is PUNITIVE punishment. They don't care about the money. They want Jones to actually hurt.

[@sashasscribbles]

Do you remember the days where something being declared "Unconstitutional" actually meant something rather than just being the go to smear whenever a conservative doesnt like something?

[@GZilla311]

That was last the case roughly… a decade ago.

[@ogierkarl]

That was never the case,people in the USA use the constitution to justify the most insane and disturbing things since the start of the television.

[@aohige]

Don't forget "woke". If it's a legal issue, they say unconstitutional regardless of whether it's true or not. If it's a culture wars topic they replace it with "woke" whatever the hell they think that means. 😂

[@stephentorrey8727]

Well, the Constitution is supposed to protect against cruel and unusual punishments as well as excessive fines. If 1.5 billion dollars isn't excessive, cruel, and unusual to you then you either can't even comprehend that number properly or you're so biased that you can't see past it. How exactly do you rectify that in your mind, that the damage to these families was to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars, which there is absolutely zero chance that Jones has, has ever had, or will ever have anything nearing that amount. Let's not forget judges sidestepping the legal caps on punitive damages just for Jones' case, this is jot unusual and unfair treatment? To just unilaterally disregard the legal limit on punitive damages for one specific person?

[@stephentorrey8727]

I don't deny that Jones' wronged these people and rightfully owes them a ton of money... but billions? His damage is on par with Perdue pharma obscufating evidence that opioid painkillers are deadly which directly lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people? Same-same for these two legal questions? His damage is worth far more than the damage caused by tobacco companies hiding the evidence that their products are lethal?

[@petertaylor4954]

That man should be destitute and yet he still has $93,000+ a month to blow on personal expenses? Nice "Justice System"

[@digitalempirellc6118]

Considering its a corrupt attack on free speech the justice system is actually working

[@cynthiacrescent]

It's not justice; it's the law, and the law is very often unjust.

[@justinelliott3529]

Why should he be destitute?

[@petertaylor4954]

@@justinelliott3529 Because he is guilty of defaming and harassing the families of the victims of a mass shooting to promote his execrable lie machine and supplements business. I cannot think of anyone nore worthy of losing everything they have grifted over a period of decades of lying and calumny. Time for the bully to pay up. Way past time.

[@justinelliott3529]

@@petertaylor4954still haven’t convinced me. I can see finding him guilty for sure, but 1.5 billion in damages is way out of line. How much did each family receive? Are you sure that your malice isn’t because of political leanings?

[@Keira_Blackstone]

'Why, oh why, do bad things very occasionally happen to bad people?' is the best thing I've heard in a long time.

[@carlholland3819]

hearing your glee over his suffering, id watch out for your own karma

[@PunchyBeaver]

@carlholland3819 Ever heard of schadefreude, aka feeling good about bad peoplegetting their just desserts

[@matthiastheisen7307]

@@carlholland3819 if Karma was real then our entire government and media would have been obliterated by a meteor sometime in the late 2000s and we wouldn't even be having this discussion

[@erikdayne5429]

He should face jail time for harassment and inflicting undue emotional duress during a crisis. Those people had to deal with the unimaginable loss of losing a child and then to become targets from this psychopath during that time is one of the most inhumane things I have ever seen. He should be punished, what he did was arguably worse than punching them in the face. If I was mourning the loss of my child I would rather get punched in the face than have someone publicly disrespect and dishonor their memory.

[@SitaraAleu]

His followers were caught in the act of digging up the grave of one of my friends’ daughter who died in the shooting. The maintenance workers chased them off and the grounds alerted the family, but the cemetery has had to install guards to protect the graves now

[@Anne_Onymous]

Who did he "harass" exactly? Jail time for causing negative emotions with his opinion? Yeah, that sounds normal.

[@SitaraAleu]

@@Anne_Onymous He actively encouraged his followers to “do whatever it took to get the truth” Aaaaaand they harassed and attacked people and he not only didn’t stop them, he broadcast their actions and laughed at it

[@Anne_Onymous]

@@SitaraAleu So again, who did HE harass enough to lose his freedom?

[@Susono09]

⁠@@Anne_Onymousthe victims of Sandy hook, not really hard to comprehend bud

[@ChubbyUnicorn]

"Your attorneys emailed me their ENTIRE case file." 😂😂😂 The best courtroom moment ever. I truly hope those text messages made it onto theDOJ, FBI & many states attnys emails too.

[@TitaniumTurbine]

@@cheechandjong897 You’re being dense, stop trying to take away from your boy’s incompetence. Defense was supposed to share a specific text threads with the prosecution, instead they shared the entire phone backup.

[@berjanbeen7188]

​@@TitaniumTurbine Actually they should have shared that, but they didn't. The plaintiff lawyers getting the phone was in fact an accident and they wouldn't have shared it otherwise.

[@SnakebitSTI]

His defense only shared files they were required to share on accident. They deliberately withheld information, but accidentally sent that information to the prosecution.

[@bekenotsalony2905]

It's shocking that he honestly thought he could pull this after his lawyer handed the otherside a complete copy of his phone and records showing where he knew he was hurting people but that he didn't care because the money was too good and that he was lying about how much money he had or didn't have, and refused to take their calls when they called to inform him of the mistake long enough that they were allowed to use the data aginst him in the case.

[@Robert399]

Jones' argument that he wasn't allowed to fully participate because of the default judgements is like someone in a meeting saying they weren't allowed to participate because they got up and went and stood in the corner with their arms crossed.

[@carlholland3819]

not like it would have mattered either way. it was clearly a witch hunt

[@BluBlu777]

Moral of the story: don’t be a terrible person

[@jonahfalcon1970]

Moral of the story: The people you meet on your way up? You'll be meeting them again on your way down.

[@Medgator]

Moral of the story "USA has as much free-speech as Stalinist USSR"

[@hopefulmonsters4407]

Tragically, one of the awardees is struggling to pay for cancer treatment. There are deadly consequences for his stalling. He's a wicked, cruel man without an ounce of empathy or remorse.

[@thebargainshack6901]

Tragic, but how is that person's cancer or lack of money Jones' fault?

[@hopefulmonsters4407]

@@thebargainshack6901 The money he is trying to hide would buy her treatment which could save her life. Jones is spitefully hiding what he can and lavishly spending what he can't in an effort to deny his victims justice. The adage goes justice delayed is justice denied, but in her case it could cost her her life.

[@groundbird4904]

@@thebargainshack6901cancer may be attributed to undue stress, which increases certain cancer risks. Money… are you watching the video?

[@dr.blockcraft6633]

​@@thebargainshack6901Many of The awardees Were forced To move Due to The harassment They recieved From Alex Jones, And his Lackies. (Some even Felt that Their lives Were in Danger due To said Harasment) 2. Stress caused By the Lawsuits, and Alex Jones Harrasment, and There is A known Link between Varieties of Cancer, and Stress.

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

@@thebargainshack6901 It's not that the cancer is Jones's fault. It's that by delaying and attempting to get out of paying the money he owes, Jones is effectively endangering her life- because that money might be the difference in paying for a treatment that prevents her from dying. But that said, you could also argue that our nightmarish health care system is as much at fault as Jones is in this particular scenario.

[@KyleCorbeau]

7:10 I'm sorry but the man did the adult equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming "lalala I can't hear you" _to a court._ Willfully refusing to participate is different from not being given the opportunity. Just because you don't like what someone has to say _doesn't mean you don't have to show up for trial_ and calling "unfair ruling" after the fact is just the cherry on top of the childish tantrum cake.

[@feywild1758]

Alex Jones really trying to say "yeah I know I didn't comply with discovery orders and it went to default, but because I didn't comply I shouldn't have to pay the money that I have to pay as determined by the trial I failed to comply with!" Actually wild.

[@LeCrenn]

“If you’re ever hit with a $1.5B defamation judgment…” Hahaha!

[@mechanical_chaos]

All of this is super important because no sane news outlet will spout this level of crazy about victims again, unless ready to lose lawsuits. Feels weird he had to show us why it was a bad idea, and justice took a while, but the Find Out finally caught up.

[@LAK_770]

Same with Fox and Dominion, which is maybe even more relevant. It’s easy to write off Jones as a lunatic acting as an individual, but Fox sets an example for powerful mainstream organizations

[@iamwhoiam7887]

Feels weird how you guys celebrate the death of freedom of speech.

[@carlodave9]

All I heard is that he can use the courts to delay justice for the rest of his life. 12:56

[@thebargainshack6901]

If you leftists think that awarding a bunch of middle class people BILLIONS of dollars because they essentially got their feelings hurt, then you're sick, twisted, and insane. This is nothing more than political persecution. And, you can't get blood out of a rock. Jones doesn't have, and will NEVER have billions of dollars. He can't even earn any serious money anymore since he was cancelled, which underscores the real reason behind this ludicrous verdict. It was all about destroying Jones, and not about compensating the families.

[@intrinsicallylast5246]

My dude really tried to argue that because he didn't show up he didn't get to properly defend himself therefore its unfair that he lost.

[@artsyscrub3226]

This is the same defense the toddlers i teach give me when i tell them they lost their turn on the prize i gave them for being good. Alex is arguing like a toddler would.

[@notenoughmonkeys]

On an unrelated note, Trump claimed he had a buyer for Mar-a-Lago willing to pay $1.5 billion... guess that fell through!

[@dmgroberts5471]

If there ever _was_ one. If Trump said the sky was blue, I'd be worried that that had changed.

[@kellyalves756]

@@dmgroberts5471😂😂😂

[@DahVoozel]

Was it John Barron?

[@thomasbecker9676]

In American dollars or rubles?

[@originalscreenname44]

Mar-A-Lago was appraised to be worth maybe $20 million, so I'm sure they weren't willing to pay anywhere near that much, if there even was a buyer to begin with.

[@icetech6]

This is real.... Trump lawyer Alina Habba: That email isn't real! It was never sent! Prosecutor: Um, that email is a document that *you* entered into evidence

[@joyhartman330]

You know, it's so nice that he's finally being held to standards and being forced to pay

[@jakeknight1995]

Agreed. I have to ask though; this video says it went up 3 minutes ago. How did you comment 9 hours ago?

[@neruneri]

@@jakeknight1995 Shhh, don't question the time traveler. It might cause a paradox!

[@BackYardScience2000]

​@@jakeknight1995the video was private for a while to let supporters of the channel see the video first. It's usually explained at the end of videos in the "support", patreon, PayPal donations, etc section of the videos.

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

Serious question. How is he expected to pay? Even if he wanted to pay, he couldn't remotely come anywhere close to paying back 1.5 billion dollars. Was the large reward "symbolic" or something?

[@TheAssirra]

@@Ryan_DeWitt Maybe he should have thought about that ahead of time? We are not talking about "oh he did a booboo" here. The man harassed this family for years.

[@lillianward2810]

One of the most enlightening series I’ve ever heard is Knowledge Fight’s analysis of all the depositions in these cases. His legal team is breathtakingly incompetent and/or horrific. So frustrating that Erica Lafferty has a Gofundme to pay for her cancer treatments but Alex owes her hundreds of millions of dollars.

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

And, let's not forget, is taking vacations to Hawaii while he cries about how he has no money.

[@jbern2185]

I used to listen to knowledge fight. They were so funny. And great at pointing out what a self-promoting grifter and conman Alex Jones is.

[@KidVolcano]

"I have great respect for *KNOWLEDGE FIGHT"*

[@jbern2185]

Do they have a KZbin Channel? I only stumbled across their podcast a couple years ago.

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

@@jbern2185 I don't believe so, no. But they do have a Facebook group (Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.)

[@AlexMax2742]

"Sin, young man, is when you treat people like things, including yourself." Jones is a grifter who used the victims like things, and he will face judgement both in this life and the next.

[@AoiLucine]

Is that some Sir Terry Pratchett I see?

[@awkwardllama0509]

That is an excellent quote

[@JargonMadjin]

Jones is most certainly a thing, because he's clearly inhuman

[@tjthrash0143]

Jones is going to keep dragging his heels. Appeals on top of appeals. Probably spending more on his lawyers than what he owes the families. I hope the families harmed by him have a good will spelled out by a lawyer so that should something happen to them he still has to pay their estate.

[@TruthAndTattoos]

Yeah and that's total BS. I mean y do we even sue for damages in this country if the person at fault can just use a bunch of legal trickery to get out of it? Seems to me like it's just another carrot on a stick for average Americans.

[@Sonichero151]

​@@TruthAndTattoosbecause murder is still illegal........ so we can't just put Jones six feet under and be done with him for eternity

[@jonahfalcon1970]

@@TruthAndTattoos Because we don't do fascism and do arbitrary summary judgment. Jones already lost. He has no rep, and he'll die a negative meme.

[@reverse_engineered]

@@jonahfalcon1970 The two are not mutually exclusive. It's not "fascism" or "arbitrary summary judgement" to say that you can't just keep appealing a judgement and delaying responses in ongoing trials forever. While there are in fact limits on doing it, someone with enough money can draw it out long enough for it to be effectively infinite. Note how "enough money" is a requirement. It's just another case of rich people being able to manipulate the legal system.

[@thebargainshack6901]

You actually believe that his lawyers and appeals are costing him more than $1.3 billion?? Either way, Jones will never have $1.3 billion, so nobody will ever get paid.

[@cassandratastrophe9000]

It couldn't have happened to a better guy.

[@wrathfirex]

Hear Hear!

[@DwarfDaddy]

I can think of a few better guys but I’ll settle for captain chem trails here

[@gameb9oy]

Because a better man wouldn’t have slandered the families that lost their children to a tragic shooting and forced them to relive that tragedy just to prove they weren’t lying

[@Jumpstart342]

@DwarfDaddy at this level of deplorable, is it worth trying to rank them? Or can’t they all just be thrown in the “worst” bin?

[@deriamis]

This, but literally.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

After the horrors he inflicted upon families who had to identify their children's mutilated bodies after a mass shooting, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for him as he ruins his own life. Finally, he's held accountable.

[@GollumGollum1000]

He didn't inflict any horrors, he simply spoke and then other people committed crimes against the families. Free my boy

[@MileyCyclops]

​@@GollumGollum1000By your logic, Charles Manson didn't commit any crimes either. Not a good take.

[@GollumGollum1000]

@@MileyCyclops that's exactly my take actually. Those murders were the Tex Watson murders, not the Charles Manson murders. Also if you study the actual Manson criminal case you'll see that the logic doesn't really apply. The prosecution's case was that Manson's ideology in and of itself was an overt act of criminal conspiracy. Not even that he was directly responsible for causing the murders. To me, that's a completely absurd assertion. Unlike you I actual believe in upholding controversial speech and then prosecuting people that actually directly cause harm to others.

[@GollumGollum1000]

@@MileyCyclops Manson definitely committed some criminal actions at least in the aftermath of the murders and I think he reasonably could have been convicted of accessory and conspiracy. But to charge him with multiple first degree murders that he didn't actually commit is a travesty of justice imo

[@MrGhostTheBigRoast]

@@GollumGollum1000 you're the only travesty here lmao

[@alastairclarke]

Back in law school, I met a guy who was planning on declaring bankruptcy immediately after graduating. He was living it up and he had massive student loans. Then he learned that student loans (here in Canada) is not debt that can be discharged. LOL

[@catprowlin3451]

I know you can't name him publicly but it was my first thought, to make sure I would never accidentally hire that guy!

[@sterlingmarshel6299]

federal student loans are the same in U.S, You can't BK the loans away

[@mrbushi1062]

Just sucks that these parents have to relive the trauma over and over again because of this guy

[@leonstrand329]

And one of them is currently battling cancer

[@jonathanstorie1081]

I never understood why people liked him!

[@Mikelarson6112]

What’s the difference in the news constantly talking about everything. Real or not. Staged or not everyone is always talking about things that do not pertain to them. Just like we are now lol. Can’t imagine this Happening to my children but if it did I’m not going to sue cnn for reporting it

[@Medgator]

​@@jonathanstorie1081people liked and will always like him is because he has been predicting conspiracies like this one and has been correct all the time.

[@LiamDennehy]

I need to compliment this channel. Eagle does use some legalese, but the context always makes it understandable to the lay person. A great example of specialist communication to the masses.

[@juanf5391]

The saddest part of all this is that Alex Jones’ listeners SILL believe every conspiracy he peddles and send him money.

[@carlholland3819]

half of them have turned out to be true. remember jeffery epstein?

[@juanf5391]

@@carlholland3819 It’s all nonsense.

[@juanf5391]

@@qurqo It’s all nonsense.

[@Bob-the-1-and-only-blob-fish]

@@carlholland3819yeah and that totally makes this true yeeesh

[@Medgator]

​@@carlholland3819 lmao the guy avoided your reply 🤣

[@jacoporegini8841]

I shiver by the fact that in America people that suffer from cancer need a lawyer and not a doctor.

[@mori6434]

As an American, I have absolutely no idea what having cancer and getting a lawyer have to do with one another. That was a very weird aside

[@mikkelborby]

@@mori6434 bankruptcy call on medical debt.

[@GuacJohnson]

@@mori6434 a lot of people have ended up having to sue their insurance providers for trying to violate the agreed upon summary of benefits after a cancer diagnosis

[@GuacJohnson]

@@mori6434 that and it generally bankrupts people regardless requiring lawyers to navigate the process of declaring bankruptcy in the best way

[@winnerwannabe9868]

​@@GuacJohnsonas an American, that's just sad.

[@TooWalrus]

Thanks for covering this. It might be worth mentioning one of the victims, Erica Lafferty, is battling Stage II Orbital Lymphoma and cannot pay for it. Jones' stonewalling could very likely kill her. She has a gofundme, any donations go directly to her medical treatment. I'd encourage anyone to donate if they're able. Thanks again.

[@Linnitup7755]

Her life could also be saved if the medical industry wasn’t for profit. Poor lady is dying and here in America we tell her, you’re too poor go ahead and die? Welcome to America.

[@thebargainshack6901]

Tragic, but how is her cancer or lack of money Jones' fault? Besides, even if she could afford big pharma's chemo snake oil, she would probably die anyway, after months of radioactive agony, and hundreds of thousands of dollars wasted.

[@briandumas9975]

Everything dies

[@dissolvedpeafowl]

There's a quote popularly attributed to Twain I'm quite fond of for this kind of schadenfreude, "I've never wished a man dead, but I've read some obituaries with great satisfaction".

[@maxfieldstanton4541]

Wait! HE'S ACTUALLY BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE!? I thought this trial was in America? What's going on?

[@NickiRusin]

exception to prove the rule I guess

[@gojira4036]

Contrary to popular beliefs people do sometimes get held accountable in this country

[@maxfieldstanton4541]

@@gojira4036 I'm sure he'll find a way out of it.

[@Pityuu2]

@@maxfieldstanton4541 Yeah, he's been weaseling out of paying for years, why stop now?

[@maxfieldstanton4541]

@@Pityuu2 you know, I don't even think he's really got any money. It's all just an act. His whole financial standing is a hoax. The show isn't real and his followers aren't real, they're all paid actors.

[@paulthew2]

To knowingly lie about such a horrific event to make money...he's scum.

[@Ian-mj4pt]

And the scum he incited to harass the families. Says alot about those who listened to him

[@simonharris4873]

Yep, justice wont be done until he's living in a cardboard box, eating whatever he finds in other people's trash.

[@Paelorian]

He spread false information, but he never lied. He's a credulous conspiracy theory believer who invited people who falsely believed Sandy Hook was a hoax on to his program. He entertained their false ideas. Later he correctly decided that they were false and apologized for promoting misinformation. If people who weren't right-wing were held to the same standard, the law would be changed and Alex Jones freed. The New York Times knowingly prints falsehoods and libel every day. I know because I read it. Major newspapers and television networks entertain promote harmful hoaxes and conspiracy theories all the time. Nobody will be held to account for years of coverage of President Trump as an agent of Vladimir Putin who cheated his way to the presidency.

[@Medgator]

​@@simonharris4873 you're the type of guy to look at the Jeffrey Epstein list and go "i wish i was there"

[@ChintzleMcGrundle]

Dudes been on several high end vacations this year alone, meanwhile one of the plaintiffs has cancer and is drowning in medical debt.

[@Frostbite08]

Considering how often people like this tend to accidentally tell the truth when they start ranting, I humbly suggest we look for Alex Jones' hidden funds on the moon.

[@nyctomint]

we could send him there to go get it

[@half-asleepcharlie]

alex jones looks like someone who would go bankrupt

[@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr]

well, he's already morally bankrupt

[@clairegutierrez7473]

Do Amon Bundy next! He's facing a property sale being reversed as a fraudulent effort to avoid paying legal judgements. I'd love to see you take on his situation.

[@DRourkey]

"I profited off of the deaths of children and exploiting their families and spent all the money. I can't pay it back. Please understand me and furgive me now that I've had my fun. No consequences please."

[@johanfk]

In Sweden going bankrupt doesn’t remove ANY depts, you just declare “I can’t pay this” and then as a result all money you have will be taken down to the bare minimum to survive for the rest of you life.

[@frozennorth3426]

I would love a Legal Eagle / Mark Bankston conversation. Bankston’s interviews on Knowledge Fight (the premiere podcast following the ongoing… um, experience …that is Alex Jones) over the last couple years have just been fascinating.

[@snickerdoooodle]

Every time a new video about Alex comes out, I like to sort by 'new' in the comments and wonder what people who still simp for Alex are getting out of it.

[@kr02201985]

How long will these poor parents have to wait. Our courts are so slow. A monster like this guy should be made to pay every penny he has and be made to beg on the streets

[@qurqo]

Forever AJ wont be paying those people nothing.

[@kr02201985]

@@qurqo Sad but you are probably right

[@daisyl9771]

oh no! there are consequences to your actions! 🤯🤯🤯

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

You see your honor, I acted like such a shitheel in court that a trail wasn’t even necessary to determine I was wrong. Therefore, it was never *proven* in trail that I was wrong! The Courts produce such wonderful esoteric arguments.

[@onlyflylikeabeetv]

He could have avoided this if he just didn’t make up conspiracies about other people's dead 6 year olds

[@carlholland3819]

speech is only free if it protects speech that you dont like

[@jlev1028]

​@@carlholland3819The 1st ammendment isn't unlimited. Do you not understand the consequences of libel and slander?

[@asterya6913]

@jlev1028 Their a fanboy defending Alex Jones in multiple comment and arguing in bad faith. Don't waste your time. This troll ain't worth it.

[@Turai12]

Should go to jail for a few decades on top.

[@GZilla311]

Sadly this is civil, not criminal.

[@Turai12]

I'll never understand why there's a difference. It's punishment for breaking the law in both cases.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

@@GZilla311 Yeah, but just imagine. You know what they do to middle-aged, doughy Republicans in jail?

[@cryochick9044]

​@@GZilla311they could try to press some criminal charges because of his actions, but that would be difficult.

[@Medgator]

​@@Turai12he never broke the law, free speech is a myth or what?

[@josefk7437]

Jones wasn't completely lying about being bankrupt. He is morally bankrupt. I remember that it is really hard to get any damages for defamation. Alex was right about the charges being hilarious because his attempts to use his bankruptcy to get out of paying are pretty funny.

[@penitent2401]

if he is transferring wealth to friends and family and claiming bankruptcy to avoid paying compensation damages as ruled by the courts, would that not be considered fraud?

[@Anvilman]

Yes

[@kaijew8930]

If he wasn't defrauding his audience out of money, this would be be perfectly hilarious

[@crazyscotsman9327]

If they are dumb enough to keep giving him money it’s their fault.

[@OrjanGrahn]

Some of them like the "entertainment" so why not pay a bit. 😢

[@aadpiraat7126]

Its stil pretty funny

[@thebargainshack6901]

I've never bought anything from Jones, but his products are legit. Nutritional supplements, DVD's, water filters, books, and other stuff. His prices are reasonable, so how has he defrauded anyone exactly?

[@LostInTheRush]

At least he's exclusively scamming hateful, ignorant trash people. I mean, having this circus of a person not only lose his money, but it being money that other horrible people are not in possession of anymore, I think is some cool beans all around ngl.

[@WildNorWester]

I must say, I like the attention to detail in these videos. Not just with the content, but the actual video itself. For example, when something's being highlighted, the animated 'highlighter marks' will have those blobs on the end just like the real ones. It's a nice touch.

[@TehNoobiness]

I'm not sure why Jones thought he could argue that getting hit with a default judgement _because he missed his deadlines_ was grounds for the trial being unfair. Sounds like a good way to piss off the judge, to me.

[@woIf]

Never forget he couldn't remember the names of his own children during a custody hearing. He told the court it was because he eaten "extra spicy chili" for lunch the day prior

[@ericcarlson6822]

His arguments aren't that far from the boy who kills his parents and pleads for mercy because he is an orphan.

[@omegagilgamesh]

4:40, "$3,388 on groceries" in July alone!? I spend about that much on groceries IN A YEAR, and I'm 95% sure that I both weigh more than him and am shorter. And I know he doesn't have custody of at least 3 of his 4 kids.

[@citrinehills7131]

he only eats out.

[@omegagilgamesh]

@@citrinehills7131 then that wouldn't be legally defined as "groceries."

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

For anyone on the fence about the default judgement and whether or not Jones had an opportunity to defend himself: _Three separate times_ in succession, when Free Speech Systems (his company) was required to send a corporate representative to answer question, the person literally had no idea what they were there for and were unable to answer any of the questions in deposition. The judge then gave very specific orders about what the corporate representative should be able to answer with definitive "yes, no, or we don't know" (as opposed to "I guess" or "maybe" ones) and _two more times_ their representative came in and gave essentially the same answers. He had every opportunity to defend himself. He just chose not to, because he thought that stonewalling and refusing to participate would get him out of trouble. As it turns out, the legal system doesn't like it when you try and end-run around things and he got his ass kicked for it.

[@Rubberman202]

I feel like Nelson Muntz from The Simpsons, in that I just want to go "HAW HAW!" at Alex Jones.

[@Aabergm]

Sounds like Alex Jones is beginning to understand the concept of "Reap what you sow" He knew what he was doing when he said those words, he knew what he was doing when he refused to attend court. He played a stupid game and its time to collect the prize.

[@kevinblatter2369]

It really must suck to be held accountable for your actions. Unlike some current politicians that like to hide behind the guise of "free speech" to spread their slander.

[@carlholland3819]

if you dont like free speech, there are plenty of places in the world without it

[@FredDamstra]

I love so much that you treat us as intelligent humans who can understand complex comments and follow difficult legal arguments.