Oh Yeah, Well Back in My Day... a Top 10 List

[@michaelshane7832]

If a shooter isn't trying to embarrass a goalie, then he isn't trying to score.

[@bows4031]

Rangers fans paid to watch him play Instagram hockey

[@Heytherebuds]

If Panarin,Laffy,Kakko,Zib or Kreider tried it, they'd be singing his praise. Val played less than 50 games in the NHL ....hes opinion is void lol

[@tehbeernerd]

I can’t look at “back in my day” arguments anymore without thinking of that Gen Z NHL player commercial. Truly brilliant bit of marketing, that one.

[@blitz9742]

I never understood the statement that Jack Hughes tried to 'embarrass' Shesterkin - like isn't that...the point of the sport?

[@conorjohn490]

As a paid professional, he should have given only half effort. That way, he is less accountable and if the shot still happened to go in the paid professional goalie would be even more embarrassed. /s

[@MrSnowford]

The Rags defense (or lack of) along with Shesterkin himself are the cause of embarrassment all by themselves. Jack had nothing to do with it.

[@Shurehlm]

Michigan should be illegal. There's a reason "carrying" is penalized in basketball.

[@Jlalo747]

​@@Shurehlm sarcasm, or terrible take?

[@Shurehlm]

@@Jlalo747 Take it up with basketball. They understand that if let players carry, the game ceases to be the game.

[@JPMadden]

Back in the day, I was younger and less fat.

[@leerotten]

And back in the day the analytics department meant eye assesment of how many cigarettes a player smoked during intermission and of course, how overweight he was... 🙂

[@frederickacerra7766]

When people ask me if I used to play . I say yes fifty years and fifty pounds ago

[@bted]

As a Devils fan, I'm thrilled the Rangers want to set this precedent and this tone for their team and their fans. "It's disrespectful to try to score goals against our goalie."

[@GregAllenF1]

I’m thrilled that Devils fans think beating a bad Rangers team last night was a statement game for them. They are in for a surprise against good teams come playoffs in that case.

[@luciusprepus]

You got the same team as last year cry me A River dirty rags fan

[@GregAllenF1]

@@luciusprepus Was this English? I honestly didn’t understand what you are trying to say.

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

@@GregAllenF1bro you’re literally trying to take anything away from Devils fans by saying ”my team is so shit anyone could do it” That’s not a W.

[@GregAllenF1]

@@Nathanielhiggerson66 1) Devils fans said the same all last season lol. 2) it’s not a W it is a L. That is the point. The Rangers came in to the game the worst they have been in 4+ years having lost games to everyone except Montreal (which they almost lost). The Devils did exactly what was expected of them. That said, this wasn’t a statement game for NJ. A statement game would be if NY came into last night 4-1 or 5-0 in their last 5 games and NJ crushed them 5-1. They didn’t though, they had lost 5 of 6 coming into it. They just suck right now and anyone can and has beat them lol

[@Scantronimus466]

If the Rangers don’t like Hughes making hotdog moves on a breakaway, maybe don’t let him go on a breakaway?

[@PsychoHF]

@@Scantronimus466 this is so blown out of proportion. It was an analysis guy in the post game segment, not the entirety of the Rangers org. Guarantee you not a single player including Shesterkin had an issue with it

[@kyroha]

As far as running up the score, this very night the Sabres blew a 4-0 lead to the Avs.

[@Steve-lk1eb]

In regulation too…4-0 lead at home and didn’t even get a point 😱

[@w.l.graves7228]

back in my day , we made our own sticks from broom handles and beaver tails , we shared the 1 pair of skates the family had , the puck was made of coal we took when our shift was over at the mine , the goalie was the guy who owned the biggest jacket and the least amount of teeth , & if you were knocked out cold someone could borrow your skates until you woke up .now that was hockey \_

[@RRaquello]

And if you got a deep skate cut you just chewed some tobacco and slapped it on the wound then went out and played the rest of the game. We were real men in those days!

[@Plastpackad]

Your family got a whole _pair_ of skates? You lucky bastard!

[@w.l.graves7228]

@@Plastpackad only one skate had a blade tho ! so we had to learn to skate on 1 leg !

[@channingsmith7859]

The important thing was, Colton Orr had an onion tied to his belt, which was the style at the time.

[@doaftheloaf]

he's not even that old. i went to school with him.

[@XaviRonaldo0]

Had to laugh once when Liverpool FC got accused (yes I know, wrong sport) of running up the score. Dude, goal difference is the first tiebreaker in soccer!

[@subfail4810]

If you don't want teams to run up the score, try playing defense or make a save lol. It's not hard to comprehend

[@gabrielrockman]

I have seen enough instances of Toronto blowing big leads that I don't mind teams running up the score.

[@LSA30]

Germany did not get the memo in the 2014 World Cup😂

[@666kingdrummer]

In a sport like soccer, where the game ends on a 0-0 tie like 90% of the time, you'd think they'd be happy about that.

[@JaredLS10]

@@LSA30 Schweinsteiger!!

[@user-hd7ym6ve1k]

As a casual fan, he wasn’t trying to embarrass Igor (and for anyone that doesn’t understand this concept) Jack Hughes a highly competitive athlete is one on one with the best Goaltender in the NHL, you do what you think necessary to get the Goal, if that means trying to flip it over the glove (which is what some say was the idea) is something they should try

[@exeter1985]

At least hockey doesn't have as many 'unwritten rules' as baseball... thankfully.

[@conorjohn490]

Which is weird because some years there isn't a true 'brawl' in the MLB despite the mountain of baseball played.

[@jackmakackov7077]

@@conorjohn490 theres so much baseball played that any one regular season game isnt worth fighting over.

[@knightradiant4990]

Back in my day, my team was good 😞

[@totallykoolyeah]

You're kilometers ahead of other hockey channels🇨🇦

[@456yukon]

What's a kilometre, can you eat it?

[@BayBye2011]

@@456yukon 1 kilometer equals 0.62137119 miles...... every country in the world uses metric except the USA and maybe 1 or 2 others..so what he means Shannon is miles ahead of the rest.

[@dennish.7708]

@@456yukonAh, you used an alternate spelling. So, can one eat a kilometre, but not a kilometer?

[@shawncarey7018]

Canada/UK/AU/NZ = Kilometre USA = Kilometer June 30, 1864 - You know... We could always make it easier and much simpler for the people of North America!?!? NAHHH! The more confusion, the better. Plus, adults will fight over it on this thing called KZbin one day ;)

[@bartsanders1553]

please convert this to microeverests or beard fortnights. Or cheeseburgers.

[@Jimmy-Mc]

One thing players from the 90s seem to not understand is how fast games can flip. A 3 goal lead at the start of the third is not as secure as it used to be, and a team isn't going to give up and start fighting in that situation like they used to. The game was 2-0 in the first when Jack tried that move, not over by a longshot.

[@GizmoBeach]

During the worst periods of the Clutch-and-Grab Era a team ahead even 1-0 going into the *2nd PD* was bound to win. Terrible time for offense, for fans looking for excitement.

[@Bobaseaworth]

@@Jimmy-Mc I'll never forget the Devils season opener against Winnipeg a few years ago where we lost in the SO after having a late 4! goal lead 😭

[@dsc4178]

We had a basketball game back in HS, we were up by 15, coach put in the bench, a few minutes later it was tied and coach raced all back in the game; we lost by 1

[@saynotodrugs5765]

Clash of culture between the 90's NHL and players of today makes for great TV ratings. Please keep this stuff going!

[@grahamdamberger7130]

Just like back in the 90's when hockey then was compared to hockey in the 60's.

[@illydeewilliams3045]

Back in my day, the Whalers still existed. Also, if I was in Jack Hughes' situation, I'd be doing everything I can to score on Igor. Whether it's the Forsberg, or the ol' fashioned point somewhere else and ask "what's that?" in hopes that he actually looks, or something equally outrageous. Don't really see why Valiquette was bitching about it; maybe analyze why your own team sucks instead of dunking on someone who's actually playing good hockey.

[@illydeewilliams3045]

Also, Tarasenko pulled a Forsberg in the middle of a game (and scored) two years ago and no one said anything. I know my Rangers fandom is questionable at best right now, but I know a double standard when I see one.

[@lmnopqrs11]

Baseball definitely has this issue, a manager apologized that his player hit a home run just last year he said he should have known better and made the player apologize

[@saucetown222]

And pitchers will throw at guys' heads who showboat against them

[@KID_JEDI_76]

@@saucetown222 Baseball players, especially pitchers, have extremely thin skin. Too many unwritten rules and if any one of those are "violated" they're offended and act like babies.

[@666kingdrummer]

and people wonder why baseball is dying a slow death. 🙄

[@marfenperson8181]

That was hilarious. I hope Jack was trying to embarrass Igor, but I bet he was just trying to score. J. Hughes actually needs to mix it up a bit and not try to hold on like CMD every time. Surprise em with a quick shot here and there, you could see Igor didn't bite one inch.

[@doaftheloaf]

how come we didn't see any of this stuff when kucherov did the fake shot and let the puck slide between the goalie's legs? when mario put the puck through bourque's skates on the way to scoring that breakaway goal? the datsyuk flip shot over niemi in the shootout? those were surely more embarrassing.

[@Mike-ge7pe]

Baseball went through this. Showboat or jog too slow after a home run and someone was getting thrown at. It doesn’t happen as much anymore since the penalty for doing so has gotten more severe. The NHL could institute a “retaliation” penalty in similar situations. What has happened in MLB is that the announcers have stopped taking a negative position on celebrations and instead paint them as light-hearted expressions as long as there isn’t outright taunting, like pointing, yelling, or direct mocking of the opponent, and the players, for their part, have accepted it. Rarely do you see a pitcher pay much attention to a batter who’s just hit a homer off of them. They turn their attention to the next batter and the game goes on

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

Jack Hughes literally did a hockey move... Nothing to cry about. but of course the Michigan gets nothing but oh no the forsberg GRRRRR

[@RRaquello]

Baseball is idiotic on both sides. First, the idea that "flipping" a bat is some kind of exciting expression of personality. Second, that anyone would think such an idiotic and infantile display is worth getting mad about. I love baseball, but baseball players are the biggest bunch of prima donnas, crybabies and jackasses.

[@HexagonalMan6]

Getting Michigan'd is punishment for not defending behind the net, really.

[@doaftheloaf]

back in my day, so were like half of gretzky's assists. imagine how many fewer points he'd have if someone defended behind the net.

[@jeffreylewis8019]

Hughes didn't score, so whatever he was doing didn't work. This is a non-problem. Dumb comment from a witless commentator.

[@allisone9163]

Devils fan drinking game: Take a shot every time Ken Daneyko says that wasn't a penalty when he played

[@awwwshucks443]

#5 why Dino Cicarelli was so remarkable.

[@markhollingsworth3262]

Mr. Guy I loved your take on late 90s referees. I almost quit watching hockey, but then the Avs beat the Devils in 2001.

[@davesmith9451]

I can relate to the "I don't really have a day" concept. I too only played video games (mostly EA Sports NHL '96 that I still play today) and a lot of what you talked about was evident in that game. I also always thought the concept of retribution for "unwritten code" violations or hard plays on a star player was a bit useless since the damage was already done and the retribution rarely was directed at the other team's star player so it didn't really even things up. I could understand the teams wanting that retribution in the form of a fight in the only team sport that seems to allow it but, imho, it wasn't an effective deterrent. Just like now, the refereeing needed to be better and timely. Love your videos, thanks for the great discussions.

[@alicekeeran]

This was so informative! Thank you for this breakdown of generational differences.

[@andrewkraft2586]

Regarding analytics, they are 100% necessary. Data collection and making decisions based on data is a part of every industry. Why would it be different in sports?

[@jonmendelson1104]

2:38 "I haven't seen anybody get punched for attempting the Michigan." Definitely not a punch and all in good fun, but at the Sharks' Legends game it came down to a shootout and Marleau decided to go for a lacrosse-style shootout move. Nabby just tilted the goal forward knocking it down, then Patty threw the puck at Nabby's helmet.

[@exeter1985]

Watch a Red Wings broadcast. I feel like Mickey Redmond is one who likes to mention the way that things 'used to be'.

[@JaredLS10]

Had the same thought, especially when it comes to certain penalties.

[@RRaquello]

Butch Goring is another. Butch is especially that way on penalties, which is funny because he never got penalties as a player.

[@Lazzar1958]

'Back in my day', we had wooden sticks, a choice of either Bauer or CCM skates & minimal padding! 😐🏒

[@TheAcgtrs]

The celebration explosion is amplified, and to a degree, encouraged, by the blaring of bumping music, after the horn sounds… remember, in most buildings, it used to just be a horn, and maybe an organ… More often than not, the home team celebrates, more ecstatically, probably because of the music, and the crowd. I don’t notice the way teams celebrating quite as heavy, unless it’s a game-winning overtime type thing.

[@JaroKotiranta]

Michigan... back in the early 80's a wrap around was a new skill move that 99 or the very best Russians did... It's just another variations, ffs!

[@Hockeynut73]

THG mentioned Gary Bettman hopefully he will check in before the four nations games 😂

[@rodchallis8031]

BACK IN MY DAY, I used to sit with pencil and paper (calculators being rare and cost prohibitive to ordinary folk) and play with the numbers. So as an old fart, I was certainly into "analytics" when it was first talked about. I've thought since childhood that reducing things to data is the best way to figure out what the hell is going on. However, getting a taste of stats and data collection through working Q.A. in manufacturing, I know that definitions, parameters and data collection have to be spot on or the numbers mean nothing. I suspect a lot of Analytics we are presented with are dubious due to inconsistent data collection, bad definitions, etc.

[@PigeonNHL]

Anyone else notice "celebations" on the board lol

[@alphaxion]

Vally was more talking about how passive and listless the rangers were, rather than what Hughes did being any sort of outrageousness. Their body language shows they were fully checked out rather than actually being in the game and not taking the events within it to heart. They aren't playing as a team and it speaks to there being something wrong in the lockers.

[@sthuckleberryable]

Thanks for your take on the Analytics. Analytics are getting way to much hate. People are cherry picking when they like it; like when it showed Jack Hughes wasn't a bust but not scoring goals. The advanced data showed, he was fine and now nobody can deny he's doing just fine

[@kjells3578]

Your days are right now, the Shannon era!

[@habinations]

back in my day tiger williams would ride his stick after a goal

[@LSA30]

Back in _my_ day, ice hockey was played with six skaters, in a natural rink, and there were no forward passes. The game is ruined!

[@FalloutUrMum]

If someone wants to watch 80s hockey they can watch the FPHL

[@Gamboot1]

Players and team should definately keep playing and run up the score. Pad those stats that help with contract negotiations and gambling spreads and stuff.

[@maxv658]

This video just reminds me that hockey boils down to, "hey, we're playing a game, but let's not have fun."

[@dennish.7708]

“Pulling back” in football, after a sizeable lead, is probably more about the players’ health. Football is more punishing than hockey, and don’t get me started about basketball or baseball.

[@JohnJMcEh]

Shannon has been releasing some bangers lately!

[@LARGO125]

The Connor Mcdavid move where he comes in along the icing line and banks the puck in off the side of the goalies' head. Absolutely wouldve started a war back in the 80's.

[@TheGrumpyCanuck]

Back in my day, Scott Stevens was on the ice. Or even further back, the Flyers of the 70s.

[@RRaquello]

Back in my day it was Steve Durbano on the meds he wasn't supposed to be on and off the meds he was supposed to be on.

[@andrewgreen815]

Back in my day, in the first NHL expansion somebody in the L.A. Kings organization overlooked a pair of nets. They got on that phone and found the Pittsburgh Penguins could accommodate. but it would cost them Defenseman Sheldon Kannegieser. Strangest trade in the NHL I have ever heard of.

[@davkatjenn]

Back in my day, I watched Western Hockey League games with the Gulls facing the Buckeroos, the Canucks, the Totems, the Roadrunners......... then back in my day I watched the WHA with the Mariners facing the Aeros, the Whalers, the Oilers and who can remember the other teams in the World Hockey Association? I, like the Hockey Guy never played hockey, other than table hockey and I was darned good at that, but that is another story in another league.

[@dustylover100]

That Michigan was a spontaneous move by a University of Michigan olayer in a game. Definitely not planned.

[@brendanwoerner3352]

If the announcer didn’t have any team bias I would maybe get it more. The announcer comment on Jack Hughes is simply because he’s upset his team wasn’t winning.

[@RRaquello]

Also, Valiquette was a goalie so that's additional bias. He might have thought a goalie bro' was being embarrassed.

[@rohy85]

Scoring goals is what counts. The more ways you can score the harder you are to stop.

[@johncox7169]

The only argument I always had in favor of "Why is the first unit out there" is that there is always the chance your stars are going to get hurt in a game that is already won. Especially back in the "Enforcers" era, because the enforcers might intentionally go after your stars for "Running up the score".

[@evog35viii]

You see, Shannon, you ALMOST got this right. The title is spot on, but everything should've ended with: with a stick!

[@WYBsilon]

Back in my days… you could just concuss your opponents. Where are the good old times when lives could be easily destroyed? Besides… Back in my days we didn’t need trapezoids - and the blue line was much closer to the goal! And back in my days… Mike Richter‘s mask was awesome!

[@dennish.7708]

It was easier to concuss an opponent back then, when the only thing between your stick or fist, and his skull, was his gorgeous hair.

[@doaftheloaf]

hell, bill masterton even died on the ice. paul kariya doesn't remember scoring his most iconic goal.

[@bartsanders1553]

"We played a respectful game." -Gordie Howe, crushing Keith Oberman's neck with his stick

[@MarkCMG]

Thanks for the video! Let the rules be the rules. Change the rules if you don't like the rules. If someone gets their jock in a twist and they take a cheapshot, fines and suspensions should follow. Want to make a statement? Drop the gloves. If that gets you in trouble, maybe next time you don't drop the gloves.

[@kradz5172]

Back in my day Jesper Bratt never broke a smile when he'd score a goal. This year? He smiles. What a prima donna he's turned into.

[@Mayor_Of_Eureka17]

Back in my day Al Iafrate almost lit my hair on fire with a blowtorch 3 hrs before a game at the stick bench..... lighting a smoke.

[@BvG_Venom]

"Teams didnt run up the score". Wayne and Mario did that without even trying to

[@cronoros]

Back in my day we didn't even get 10, we got 8 and were glad to have em

[@georgewyatt2924]

I played (not professionally) a LONG time ago and I can understand some of the comments. My biggest beef concerns the use of the stick today. The slash on the wrist can be nasty, but we wore gloves that went up the forearm a bit instead of stopping so low. Of course a slash is going to hurt - there's no padding ... and players get more leverage on the shots. However, the accidental high sticking clip is getting ridiculous. "Back in the day" we got high sticking penalties when the stick was used as a weapon. Now a stick can deflect off many surfaces and hit an opponent, blood is drawn and there's a big penalty. OK, fine. Then it's time to make every player wear the full face shield, or at least a bar or two that prevents the stick from doing damage. They did it with helmets, then visors, which are really a half-hearted attempts to prevent injury. Let's do it properly. It's not going to hurt the game, but it will save incidental penalties and may stop significant injuries.

[@blakedubty8965]

Seems like they’re a little sensitive in New York 🤐

[@dreww47]

Another great video

[@kradz5172]

Late to the conversation (I'm sorry, I'll try to be better) but my take on the Hughes play was that he tried a move to catch Shesterkin off guard. It didn't work. That was it.

[@coreys450]

For a sport that is notoriously bad at marketing itself, it’s stars, and the excitement it creates (in contrast to the NFL and NBA) it blows my mind how many NHL old heads are opposed to just that- exciting, highlight reel plays by exciting, highlight reel players

[@InsignificantNick]

Colton Orr mentioned. Leafs legend!

[@bradleyminoski2020]

Back in the day the rover was an official position in the game and there were no line changes. Everything eventually changed. Another banger video, Shannon. Keep it up!!!

[@w.l.graves7228]

at this point unfortunately we have to accept the overtime , but the idiotic shootout is for non-hockey fans entertainment , as a goalie , you've played 60 minutes , then 5 minutes of breakaways on you , then what amounts to f'ing target practice on the goalies ,, after OT it's a tie , and for playoff reasons , go to head to head matches and division wins like football , it works fine !

[@zept2170]

That would actually make divisions matter again, don't give Bettman ideas, haha.

[@dealy9268]

Now come on. Jager did that move often on the Rangers in the late 80's!!!! The Mich should be called the Svech. He was the first in the NHL!!!

[@Jay87539]

Celebrating a goal, see Tiger Williams.

[@peterolbrisch8970]

My heroes are Laurence Terney as Elaine's father in Seinfeld and Wilford Brimley.😂😂😂

[@hankhillsnrrwurethra]

"Act like you've done it before" that was my high school coach

[@jackmakackov7077]

Back in my day we had the two line pass offsides. The game generally gets better over time. I used to hate explaining that rule to people because they would always ask a question I couldn't answer......Why?

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

Meanwhile Vally goes MIA when Zegras and everyone else does the Michigan or try. back in my day we didnt cry so much. Ive seen the forsberg move work a few years ago and noone cried. Im not a fan of the analytics, they are useful but so are the eye tests.

[@jonathancarson6270]

Not true. Vally has expressed many times that he doesn't like The Michigan.

[@samdiamondnl]

It's funny you mention the baseball example, there was a player who hit a grand slam off a pitch that "Your not supposed to swing at" and the other team was super salty about it, the unwritten code baloney, blah blah. The coach got in front of cameras and cried about it, and the batters own coach publicly disapproved of it. It was a load of crap

[@asci1732]

Number 11. Internet trolls didn't exist. Number 12. I didn't have dozens of hockey sources like this channel. Number 13. Going to the bar occurred after Coaches Corner

[@kokushi629]

I wonder what old time D-Men could adapt to today's hockey & do just as well?..

[@dealy9268]

Okay we used to do the running in place celi all the time in the 80's. Watch 1980 gold medal highlights.

[@dennish.7708]

Just say ‘celebration’.

[@thomasator1139]

I think in some sports (nfl) the penalties getting called way too much for soft things argument is 100% correct. NHL… not really

[@seanpoulton2446]

NFL games are barely watchable anymore. The amount of penalties called is aggravating

[@scottgorski7541]

Stop doing the penalties! Maybe teams need to stop being lazy and play by the rules. Just like hockey. Stop making the refs jobs difficult and complaining both ways. They should call the book and teams/games should play by those rules. Crazy!

[@alhunt3587]

It's not my job to keep my puck out of your net, but there is value in resting your top two lines and getting your bottom two lines some ice time.

[@chrisbelos2834]

real ones remember when the slapshot was illegal because the puck should stay on the ice and no one really could manage to shot the puck with precision. then came Boom Boom Geoffrion with his precise slapshot and the league changed. neanderthal hockey fans will never not get angry over stupid stuff like this and it's been a staple of the NHL for a century.

[@hockeyhacks2.0]

Great Video, literally. The traditionalism is dying. The fact that these are the old/former player's best arguments is a sign they are losing. That MSG bloke is jealous Hughes has skill he never had. Also, it's called skill, and you have a natural hierarchy of it.

[@cousinjimmy2638]

I played college-level hockey in the 1990s. The game is better now. Hockey is an emotional game. The pure idiocy of getting mad when someone celebrated a goal was shocking. Getting jumped but the goon after doing a fist bump with a teammate after scoring a goal was horseshit. Jack Hughes and the Devils are appointment television. The game is better than it was BACK IN MY DAY.

[@surfwarrior]

The master of embarrassing your opponent: Pavel Datsyuk. Embarrasses both goalies and defensemen alike with his Datsyukian moves

[@henrywest7217]

Maybe the professed best goalie in the world should make a save once in a while. The guy at the other end made almost twice as many last night.

[@dsc4178]

We still call it a lacrosse goal

[@CoolHandRobb]

Well punching people is that guys Michigan. He figured out how to do something to help his team.

[@ianzellick4980]

Tatis Jr hit a grand slam on a 3-0 count in a blowout a couple years ago and got crapped on pretty hard for it, so baseball is not totally immune to it

[@l2mloyalty929]

Devils fan here, it was a dumb take, but whatever, no need to get annoyed or anything at the guy (though I guess I don't like him because Rags)

[@evgenymozgovsky]

Mate, you pronounce Шестёркин just perfectly. You are the Guy! Right

[@jeffreyrainey1015]

Baseball has its unwritten rules as well, and cockiness and dominence is frowned upon.

[@dustylover100]

I guess it's a matter of how badly the other team is being whipped.

[@bad_alien347]

Vally didn't point it out to call Jack Hughes out for the type of player he is or the move itself. He is just looking for any reason to call the Rangers out on what they might get riled up about... but they don't, they're sad and gutless. That's why Steve said it and I agree with his statement regardless... Shits too sweet in this league now

[@Falllll]

So in baseball, you do hear a bit about running up the score. A Chicago White Sox player got in trouble with his team's manager (basically the coach) pretty publicly a few years back after hitting a home run off of a position player who came in to pitch (which only happens in blowouts). Of course, said manager is also no longer managing, but you see these "old school" unwritten rules dinosaurs in every sport. And thankfully people generally push back on that stuff because it's archaic and silly. Who are you to tell a player when he can and cannot swing due to the "unwritten rules" or something, especially when he's a fringe MLB player and not a star who's guaranteed a spot on the team next year? People also moan about analytics changing how managers manage, how players play, and so on. Celebrating home runs has also been a point of contention, with some people upset about bat flips and watching the ball fly and some embracing that.

[@anthonybeam8003]

28gp 11g 22a 33p +8 is fine by me

[@austincable4367]

the move hughes tried just wasn't a "hotdog" move. there's obviously been a bunch of NHL goals scored with it. it's literally called the peter forsberg move, and he never got hunted down by a goon on the ice for doing it.

[@hayleyxfiona]

i can't even begin to get into the mindset of some of these people that just hate fun, michigan's are sick