Ok Now We're REALLY Playing Troll Levels

I was informed that the troll level I thought was soooooOOOoo cool was actually just the tip of the iceberg...
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[@adamtaurus5380]

Ryu is so innocent with troll levels... and yet he still dodges more trolls than Carl.

[@mage4242]

Helps that Ryu isn't CarlBlind

[@leonc4653]

the reality of things

[@KCzz15]

There are three toed sloths that live in remote forests and have never even seen a human being (never mind a troll level) that dodge more trolls than Carl. It's not a high bar.

[@bbbelt_far]

@Xscorpion stingX dgr is carl

[@myaccount__7269]

Here’s a secret. Carl is just as good a player as Ryu. Carl plays dumb and into the trolls because it’s funny and content and his audience likes it.which it is. Plus he likes seeing what creative things people make so he tries to hit every single troll. Love Carl and Ryu though.

[@saisyuumaho]

I like how Ryu is dodging things left and right because he hasn't been conditioned by playing through tons of 'modern' troll levels beforehand.

[@johnktejik9847]

Detail nah if you watch his early videos he has so much experience dodging trolls. He knows the tricks

[@saisyuumaho]

That's why I said 'modern' troll levels. Specifically the ones popularized by and made for a certain handful of streamers. There's been an arms race since the early days in terms of their 'meta' and 'sophistication', and a lot of stuff in them preys on the user's prior knowledge and them having been being conditioned to respond a certain way by previous levels.

[@Nyah420]

That's right. If he continues, there'll come a day when he already knows a bunch of possible outcomes and ends upt like Carl: not knowing which one it will be next.

[@Luteloots]

@@saisyuumaho It also definitely helps that his experience with troll levels is basically only from endless super expert. He knows all of the "standard" tricks that you might expect to be more common to the point where they more or less don't even register with him it seems. More elaborate tricks he's never seen but also doesn't know to expect really so he doesn't try to get into mind games about what will or won't happen, he just reacts in the moment. Carl's biggest enemy is that he tries to think through everything as he's playing to "beat" the troll which is really just playing into it and that's basically the "arms race" of the entire thing as you're saying.

[@Underworlder5]

@@Luteloots so the answer is to trust your instincts?

[@DGR_Dave]

YESSS...Ryu has joined the realm of trolls...our number grows stronger...

[@julianthaler2741]

Hey DGR how you doing

[@ash.g155]

Before this comment gets over a thousand likes, let it be known that I got the seventh.

[@froggydops9210]

firestarter 9999 I’m the 24th

[@Eeveon7]

At least naked mushroom stalks and pipes aren't in the first level

[@LazyCatOfficial]

I think he already played some troll levels in the past too. So if you want DGR_Dave you can watch those videos also

[@koentjoep3683]

1:38 RYU: wait for the fish. Yoda: There is another

[@BenMarru]

Yoda: Another there is*

[@DiMono]

The original version of Defender's level had the psychedelic effect on the flagpole, to drown out the victory music. Geek got got _so hard_ by that when she played it, she thought it was a real CP1 right until the victory screen.

[@Adi-oc7vu]

TheDiMono who is geek ?

[@DiMono]

@@Adi-oc7vu There's a Twitch channel called Freak and Geek Gaming, which is a couple of sisters who stream. Geek is the woman.

[@Willowisp927]

@@Niels835 Sisters can be couples...

[@DiMono]

@@Niels835 My mistake, I misremembered how it was described to me. I'll edit my comment to be accurate.

[@Oyasumi05]

@@kronosomni2805 what

[@CarlSagan42]

Welcome home Ryu, welcome home 😈

[@zekelockman1477]

Yes Larl, you are so right

[@davids4031]

The salt is real.

[@dudaseifert]

i feel like ryu didn't appreciate how insane the fact that the flagpole was there, because you pass through that section the first time. defender's video explaining it is so brilliant

[@abstractnonsense803]

Eduardo Seifert I think It might be that he just passed through CP1 so quickly while avoiding so many trolls he already forgot he was there lol

[@PtylerBeats]

The dude is a genius

[@Luteloots]

I half expected Ryu to figure out how to cheese it by accident more or less and end up clearing the level straight from the first time you see CP1. I want to say the video explaining it mentioned there was some insanely small window of time (maybe a single frame?) that you could jump up and actually hit the flag pole to finish the level instead of CP1 originally.

[@kronosomni2805]

@@Luteloots Defender admitted to such, yes, he also said that explains the 45 second world record.

[@Oyasumi05]

@@Luteloots what's CP1?

[@kevintotems6097]

Damn ryu dodged so many trolls that first level!

[@alyssar1505]

DGR: Inches forward carefully and considers every possible scenario. Ryu: Sprints on through and sees what happens as it happens.

[@jacobstory8895]

I enjoy seeing you play well designed troll levels.

[@hollowknightfanatic7693]

Yeah, so we dont have too!!!😆

[@Triiiplz]

“Is there nudity” *Smiles Intently*

[@dependsonwhosasking]

TBH I was expecting clown car on clown car action

[@rileyhair8263]

S D same

[@Pulse_kS]

The "PG13" was because the original level had a lot of cannon + sawblade phallic shapes, but got deleted by Nintendo. This was the censored reupload. If only Ryukahr had seen what the "censored" room used to be

[@mr_confuse]

@@Pulse_kS oh no...

[@Pulse_kS]

@@mr_confuse here's a clip of FreakAndGeek playing the original. Viewer discretion is advised. clips.twitch.tv/embed?clip=VibrantBlueLeopardBrokeBack

[@diegohernandocubillos6464]

Ryukahr is too inocent for this kind of trolls. He's not traumatized enough to be shipped in a Carlbox

[@kronosomni2805]

Ones does not simply get shipped in a Carlbox, one is trapped inside for all eternity, or until the troll kills you.

[@TimeturnerJ]

Innocent? Ryu himself has made troll levels meaner than this. ;)

[@lazice]

chuckles. he's in ====== *a carl box

[@guilhermefeitosa3640]

Troll levels Because having fun is not fun

[@Jesse__H]

And NOT having fun is very entertaining 😅

[@basilicon.]

@Alfonso Razo What if I make good troll levels and play the game Kappa

[@bastik.3011]

Troll levels can be fun, if they are not complete unfair bullshit Its like playing a prank can be fun but it easily can go majorly wrong

[@ImTheWarlock64]

you just describe any team based game ever created

[@panos21sonic]

Fun was never an option...

[@TheUCruz]

I read the hint: “I ran out of doors” *Eastern European Ryu read the hint*: “I run out of door”

[@AnnathePiana]

Most Troll levels are so annoying and pointless, but some are amazingly creative!

[@fawazalanazi3793]

Exactly

[@Willowisp927]

Dumb kids should learn from levels like this...

[@LFPman]

I have no words Edit: I mean seriously... if the first level was bad enough, Then in the words of Michael Angelis, “There was worse to come.”

[@basilicon.]

I know, right? These troll levels are crazy!

[@imvirpil]

14:42 Ryu finally talking about the more important things

[@stevo1922]

17:00 you shouldn't restart in a situation like this. good troll levels will never have a softlock unless the level breaks, and restarting can ruin the flow of the level.

[@uretheworld1776]

Well he didnt follow the signs, he could have got out of there, but Ryu laxks experience with anti-softlocks xD

[@rickrolled8737]

I think he didn't want to wait through the anti-softlock

[@rowanjohnson9892]

Ryu: "What makes a Mario Maker level PG-13? Is there nudity?" Me: *thinks back to all the PG-13 movies I've watched* Me: yEs.

[@sandrosmaximus2121]

14:00 "i thought ... was the answer but he knew that I would think that" defender in a nutshell

[@alexbehlmann3258]

Why do I love watching people play Mario levels so much.

[@viikable]

Yeah I mean I haven't even owned a single Nintendo console myself since Gameboy Color, but somehow really got into watching these Mario Maker videos for a long time now.

[@zaj334]

This is so relatable haha.. it’s in my daily life even though I don’t play it

[@Willowisp927]

I just love seeing RYU playing Mario levels mostly.

[@acebasher1st360]

I like your way of playing troll levels (and regular levels as well). Carl's actively trying to get trolled or just stands there and is waiting to take it. Or he's explaining what he's going to do for 5 minutes just to get fucked anyways. You on the other hand are just playing the level like a normal person. Thank you for that, Ryu.

[@danielcarithers3345]

ryukahr: What makes a Mario Maker level PG-13? *Says this as Mario literally get burned to death by a giant ball of magma*

[@akumjh]

14:10 He knew that you knew that he knew that you knew that he knew that you knew.

[@AbbyRemix]

14:10 “I’m ready for a checkpoint.” Actually gets a checkpoint.

[@TheRaven123]

Mario looking dummy thicc at 14:45

[@tracerwg8328]

quite round* lmao

[@hurkyl1560]

16:50 - the trick to keep all of the powerups from spawning is to keep moving left and right while jumping. So you start in the bottom-left corner, then jump right, arc back against the spikes at the top of your jump, land in the bottom-left, and repeat.

[@RinrinFran]

Ryu's next intro: "Hello my friends and welcome to the TRyulled series, A series showing it can be a lot of fun to play garbage levels"

[@ryanshenkman9467]

Rinrin Fran i

[@TheWorldsStage]

14:42 "Luigi, its-a me, Mario! I am-a trying to-a save-a da princess, but I'mma dummy thicc and my ass keeps clapping and warning-a Bowser!!"

[@masontrout2605]

2:46 reminded me of Pulp Fiction: "We should be f***ing dead." "I know, we was lucky." "No, that s*** wasn't luck, this was DIVINE INTERVENTION."

[@MichaelNunya-iu6kw]

1:31 2+2 be like

[@MarceloHenrique-zs7fe]

Only true gamers will understand

[@timtompkins8774]

This is all I wanted for Christmas. Run playing good troll levels

[@leons.kennedy4596]

Hopefully he doesn't Ryu away from them

[@IAmUnderscore]

01001111 01110111 01100101 01101110 sa +1

[@orugma]

I really wish Ryu had continued to play recommended troll levels. It's so fun to watch.

[@joviviz]

Mario Teabagging isn't real he can't hurt you 18:12

[@Reibonne]

Ryu playing troll levels is the greatest Christmas gift. You did excellently, please consider mixing these in with your regular runs.

[@perry7660]

Ryu you should do a series of the Escapists. I think it would do really well on your channel.

[@aurilio5633]

So what we've learnt? The less you think about troll levels the more you dodge them. Poor Carl...

[@valentds]

especially when you not have time, if you stop enemies random block u

[@ghms_211]

O Carl cai literalmente em todas as baits possíveis kkkkkk

[@gtv1676]

Nobody: Absolutely no one: Minecraft Villagers: 2:06

[@kronosomni2805]

That wasn't even close man, wrong pitch and wrong sound, the villagers say "hm?" and ryu said "huh?"

[@luislaracuente]

It's nice to see other streamers uploading troll level playthroughs. I originally saw these particular 2 levels being played by Carlsagan 42. I must admit that if I haven't seen Carl's playthrough, I wouldn't have appreciate this video as much as I did. Something amazing about Carl is his passion for deconstructing levels and questioning, while being trolled and mezmerized, how the heck creators come up with the setups. I think a great deal of the troll enjoyment comes from appreciating the weird contraptions and technical detail that comes into magic to make it work. I'm glad Ryu enjoyed it!

[@Oakshield2]

It's funny watching you play trolls levels because they go against your exploring nature. It's either move fast and get trolled or wait too long and get trolled.

[@oceanman5592]

My brother loved the first part of the video. He’s so happy that he’s rolling around on the floor

[@karlcossaboon7072]

Why is ryu so good at everything Mans is already better at these than dgr and Carl

[@Vesperwow]

lol dude, those guys fall for trolls on purpose for content, you can see carl pretending

[@jaeusa160]

To be fair, the Troll Level meta can be really weird sometimes. There's troll levels which are good at catching inexperienced players off guard, but there's also troll levels (typically those made expressly for someone like Carl or Juz) which are better at catching players off guard who play a lot of troll levels. In doing so, though, sometimes the level is easier for a less troll-savvy player. Defender's level here, for example, was made with a lot of streamers who play troll levels in mind, so it's skewed to prey on the expectations of players who have "seen it all" as it were.

[@Pulse_kS]

Carl doesn't fall for trolls intentionally unless he's already passed the section. All of his content is taken straight from his Livestreams, you'll see that his "pretending" is just how he always behaves

[@basilicon.]

@@Pulse_kS That assumes that Carl is paying attention to anything at all when he streams

[@Pulse_kS]

@@basilicon. carlBlind

[@vladspellbinder]

So many great trolls in Shano levels. The hearts mean that Defender loves you. Which is why he hurts you so. Ryu: "I have no idea what I was supposed to do there." Level: "STAY" Ryu, you know how to read right? Right to left, top to bottom? "Jump up, ON/OFF under skwer" And why does nobody seem to connect the ON/OFF switches there as being PART of the message and not just decoration? The Fire flower slash bounce ball anti soft-lock is VERY possible, you just have to be really fast with your siz-zag jumps to keep things from spawning. Plus I AM going to judge you for not doing it when so many others have. Ryu: -Jumps up and down makes one-way gate sounds- "Is there a cloud behind the door?" People's reaction to the fake anti soft-lock leading up to CP2 are always great to see. Ryu, Ryu, that's an "a'. Ryu, Ryu, Ryu, how are you reading that as a "u"? It looks NOTHING like a "u" Ryu. Do you need glasses? That face when the hidden goal was revealed. Thanks for the video Ryu.

[@PsychOsmosis]

Is Ryu really just discovering troll levels? He's been playing this game professionally for years! It's so funny. Troll levels are the best thing about Mario Maker IMO, so have fun!

[@Willowisp927]

*good troll levels. Most are kaizo spam garbage

[@HikaruOfTheWind]

Troll levels are a lot better in MM2 than in MM1, since people are using the new tools to focus on really creative setups, withholding information, reversing expectations, etc - basically making them more puzzle-oriented. There was some of that kind of thing with overlay pipes and hidden blocks and stuff back in MM1 too, but overall troll levels were a lot more skill-based, which made them pretty different than these ones. Also, the culture around them has really matured, with rules like "never softlock the player" (leading to the wonderful anti-softlocks) making playing troll levels in MM2 an entirely different experience than MM1, where you are absolutely guaranteed to be softlocked. I totally agree that troll levels are the pinnacle of Mario Maker gameplay, but troll levels have changed so much (and are a lot friendlier and more accessible now) that I don't think it's too odd for ryu to only now be discovering how good they've gotten.

[@PsychOsmosis]

@@Willowisp927 Enemy spam levels are not *Troll Levels™,* they are *Hot Garbage™.*

[@PsychOsmosis]

@@HikaruOfTheWind Except that there were troll levels that were just as good in MM1. Mostly they were made by the same crowd that makes troll levels in MM2. They're more popular nowadays, so that's why less people knew about them, but they were there. Just look at CarlSagan42's *Troll Levels* playlist on KZbin, and it's 71 videos of MM1 troll levels, with multiple levels in each video, and many of them are just as good as those in MM2, taking into account the evolution of the genre (eg. there are no anti-softlocks, sadly). Also, "don't softlock the player" always was a thing. It's just that taking a wrong turn back then led to death instead of an anti-softlock.

[@jameshackney4649]

I would love to watch Ryu play more troll levels. He is great at playing them and his reactions are so funny when he does get caught by good trolls

[@julianthaler2741]

The Escapists would be a really nice game to play for you

[@salj.5459]

Which one?

[@hw_yozoraVODS]

The first one, the second one is very hit or miss

[@proxy1035]

@@hw_yozoraVODS how? i've seen a lot of videos on the second one and it looks pretty dope

[@hw_yozoraVODS]

@@proxy1035 i like it as well, but its not as well received as the original.

[@tybertimus]

@8:44 That. That is the face of somebody who want so much to be mad, but just can't.

[@captainzork6109]

The spark effect was genius. It overloads the visual attentional system, making you miss the first platform

[@IAmTNT]

Really surprised how much I enjoyed this, I usually don't like troll videos much, but the commentary was really good, and... Yeah 😝

[@valentds]

ryu commentary is relaxing and fun as fuck for not logical reason

[@a.r.e.j.1693]

"Let me touch it" Ryukhar, Dec 2019

[@bremusa322]

I just got this game last night, and I was nearly raging from the 4 star story mode levels. It amazes me that you’ve never destroyed a television, simply based on how these levels look. You have the patience of a literal saint lol.

[@basilicon.]

try CarlSagan42's "Please, Just Do Better"

[@davidwatt2875]

"I thought waiting was the answer, but he knew I would think waiting was the answer!" This is some Princess Bride level short.

[@jaeusa160]

[sees the intro] Oh, the end of Defender's brilliant level I see. :D

[@jaeusa160]

I hope to see Ryu do more of hopefully some well-constructed troll level recommendations. There's obviously a lot of garbage which shows up in Super Expert, but well constructed troll levels are a fun experience.

[@arbussman5003]

He's so adorably inexperienced in these

[@TheWispGuy]

21:15 Gotta admit, this part here was the perfect ending to the level.

[@ShehabEllithy]

It is so funny seeing Carl fall for absolutely every troll and then see Ruy with no troll experience breeze through the level like nothing

[@ShehabEllithy]

At least he's not as blind as Carl

[@hollyfindlay4051]

"Mario's rump looks... Quite round here... You ever notice..?" Ryu, you are fucking hilarious... Never change.

[@mayhem264]

The feeling when ur 2 minutes into the episode and the notification just pops up😤

[@oliverstoller]

For the first time while watching my jaw genuinely dropped at some of these trolls

[@kirralight]

That first level was the best. The looks on your face just cracked me up 😂

[@soccer4207]

Ryu and troll levels! Truly, the best Christmas present of them all.

[@name8895]

I was having a massive deja vu watching this and thought it was a reupload. Then I realized that I watched Carl play it and not you

[@rayikaikin]

my favorite mm content is watching people play good troll levels. if it looks like a fun level i will pause the vid and try to beat it sometimes too

[@TheMasterswordish]

Well designed troll levels are nice to watch in between. It showcases levelcreators as a nice intermission of your Mario platforming genius.

[@kirralight]

You got to do another batch of these troll levels! Watching you suffer through these was priceless 😂

[@Crumbling_Vortex]

Ryu: Hello Mr. Plant! Piranha Plant: Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru

[@Ethreal-su2sh]

I can’t believe ryu actually cheesed one of defenders levels

[@pietervannes4476]

where did he cheese it?

[@IAmAdamTaylor]

Where was the cheese? I didn’t spot that

[@manaspradhan8041]

Carl is gonna get jealous of his troll level skills lmao

[@registeredfunnyguy]

Where?

[@IAmAdamTaylor]

There’s a lot of dodged trolls but not any cheese imo

[@RetroDeath]

Overlay pipes are gone, that did not stop this man, we just uncovered a whole new hell.

[@Avrysatos]

Welcome to troll levels. Honestly they're my favorite kind of levels to watch, since everyone reacts to them differently. So long as you're having fun with the levels, it does show to your audience. Oh. That defender level. heh. If you ever want to try more, I know Carl's discord has an entire channel of user submitted troll levels. Also if you want to know how defender did this level.. I know there's a how he did it video here on youtube.

[@jaydenswagmeier5899]

This is a man whose perception of a level has been completely and utterly shattered, lol. Good stuff.

[@MrFedX]

Great watching Ryu play some troll levels and looking forward to more. Trying to think of what level would suit Ryu to play next, to really lure him into troll-land...

[@SlickONick]

"For My AusTROLLian Mates rev16+9" Was *THE BEST* Troll Level I've *EVER* Seen…!! 11/10 👍

[@Thai101full]

Ryu we all want to see you play more troll level , Juz is making some hilarious videos with them, you are missing on so much

[@paulahn2530]

"Don't be like that man .... don't be like this.... let me touch it" Ryukahr 2019

[@SenaStuff]

You've only just started yet your troll instinct is already way beyond Dave's.

[@Fools_Requiem]

Ryu diving head first into good troll levels. It's a hole you will never come out of, my friend. It only gets more fun from here.

[@johndough4422]

Very surprised Ryu doesn't know defender. I guess he normally runs into troll levels in Super expert and doesn't usually play them by choice. I guess I just thought that since Ryu and Carl run in similar circles he would've come across Defender previously. I remember Carl playing this level, and it was hilarious!

[@maegayagi2639]

5:35 Dgr will be like "He who waits not die" 😂😂😂

[@cctomcat321]

Carl beat the Flower Power anti softlock.... After finding every troll and dying to it twice.

[@KaminariHouse]

4:36 Gives Boom-Boom a whole new meaning.

[@kyorisi4326]

Hey Ryu, welcome to the world of good troll levels. Where it's not about dumb stuff like rando kaizos and mob spamming. But clever and inventive machinery, funny deaths and incredible surprises. Defender is amazing, and there's chunk of other amazing troll creators. Ask Carl or DGR for some good levels, I'm sure they'll find you some great ones :D

[@ThinkCleverAndSmart]

Yeah, that troll level by defender is the best one I know. The ending is amazing haha

[@jonhmojica6070]

I saw DGR play the same troll level by defender but it is funnier to see Ryu's reaction when falls into one

[@littlelooney8287]

That second troll level gave me a sense of deja vu. I believe DGR has played it before.

[@mikepinkman5788]

2:47 had me dying cx

[@an4r4k34]

I'm used to DGR just not understanding anything whatsoever but Ryu is just like: "wait l skipped 17 trolls? Ok cool"

[@Danikah23]

Ryu: I'm not too experienced in troll levels... Me: *flashbacks to when he made a glorious troll level in MM1* sure you are

[@diegotrigo7251]

Minecraft Ryu and now Trolled Ryu? This keeps getting better and better :D Happy Holidays Ryu and everyone else!!!

[@benjaminjames1495]

21:12 damn what a rollercoaster ride

[@WhosBadX]

SMM2: has level called PG13 KZbin: DEMONITIZED!

[@oscartorres3666]

You know these super Mario maker video from you are like Saturday morning cartoons just a good time

[@hoosiermama16]

Defender made a whole explanation video about how he made the AusTROLLian level. It's epic!

[@matticus4860]

This was one of my favorite videos as of late. Keep expanding those horizons!

[@陳敬智-s2f]

Can someone explain what happens at the end? If the goal is right there, why wouldn't Ryu win right after getting cp1 the first time? Sorry for the stupid question but I really don't understand

[@rockenbrains]

When he first comes through that pipe you’ll see there’s a block on a curved track, that serves the purpose of immediately pushing him left so that he doesn’t touch the flagpole. The spring will also push left if you jump, according to the level creator there is a frame perfect jump that will let you collect the flagpole the first time you come through that pipe, but not likely to happen during the first play through.

[@陳敬智-s2f]

@@rockenbrains Oh, I didn't notice that, thanks for explaining

[@sf6040]

Defender (the creator of the level) also made a 30 min making of the level video that explains how he built each contraption. It's well worth a watch

[@hw_yozoraVODS]

As people already explained i wont bother doing it as well, check out CarlSagan42. He is a microbiologist with a phd who is bad at mario (not really, but actually yes) he built a community in the last years around troll levels, his earlier videos featured one screen puzzles, rom hacks, troll hacks, "uno mas" (cool creator techs), and kaizo. He got world record for yoshi's island. He does not stream often, but when he does, its 100% fun.

[@adrianha]

it's not a stupid question. There is science behind that troll part.

[@crosssquirrel4293]

5:50 best trolled face ever :)

[@SoraFan23]

Barb would not even play any of these Troll levels, in fact whenever he sees one he likes to avoid it.

[@NoahNathanson]

This is my favorite troll level, love getting to see you and DGR play it

[@brockm.6261]

2:48, sorcery!

[@hapaxlegomenon2589]

Nobody: Ryukhar:Mario’s Rump looks quite round here

[@paulchapman8023]

This gives Kaizo Mario World a run for its money.