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OkCode

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@hazydayyyss
@hazydayyyss Жыл бұрын
Putting this here so I can come back to it later 😅 3:00 - Destruction 5:06 - The Hunt 8:51 - Erudition 13:18 - Harmony 18:51 - Nihility 22:00 - Preservation 26:10 - Abundance
@eboyjailer
@eboyjailer Жыл бұрын
you're a godsend! thank you!
@JesseTheGameDev
@JesseTheGameDev Жыл бұрын
All he would have to do is copy paste this into the description and it would create chapters for us 🙃
@Guy_0306
@Guy_0306 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@sekcbeast6713
@sekcbeast6713 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. 🔥
@orsdekany2594
@orsdekany2594 Жыл бұрын
About the Destruction light cone, it's actaully really good. You just need to not hit DR with attack, and with speed boots, elemental dmg bonus orb or whatever, and crit cape, the only "thing" that gives you attack% is supports. If you run a hypercarry comp, currently buffing attack is the go to, but if you have herta shop destruction light cone, you can cut like a bronya, to a welt or pela for example or a breaker. The question is, would you trade a light cone for a support, and i think it will have applications. I am not saying, its the best broken, all in light cone, but its pretty good now, and will be good later, because you can compensate to not hit DR.
@llunnarration
@llunnarration Жыл бұрын
The Seriouseness of Breakfast is not just technically free but can be looted by anyone on Hertas Space Station in the (Base Zones) sealed room . You need 3 key cards to unlock the terminal. 2 of those most will have already looted from chests and the last one you get by exhausing "Afro Guys" dialog (the one in the middel of the Master Control Zone). Tldr: completely free 4 star light cone for ya
@Utrilus
@Utrilus Жыл бұрын
I ignored that quest after talking to 3 different afro guys to no end. Thanks for narrowing the search down.
@tsumia
@tsumia Жыл бұрын
@@Utrilusyou also have to talk to him 5 times
@raghavpatil.4409
@raghavpatil.4409 Жыл бұрын
this helpd a lot thanks bro. btw , bro do you know any other chests that we can go for a 4 star light cones ?
@DestructoMonkey
@DestructoMonkey Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why i got two passkeys randomly in my inventory when i didn't seem to have a quest attached to them
@johnd7760
@johnd7760 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, random guy. was wondering how that opens but never bothered to google lol. i alr had that cone but yeah.. sad it's not that great +2 achievements for completing all lootables and looting specific stuff
@looots1320
@looots1320 Жыл бұрын
To people wondering why diminishing returns exist in games, it's there so that people dont just build 1 stat
@themantheycalle8234
@themantheycalle8234 Жыл бұрын
Bofuri.
@krissjp_2040
@krissjp_2040 Жыл бұрын
@@themantheycalle8234 yeah Maple would have something to say to that lol
@Astonthepunk
@Astonthepunk Жыл бұрын
Shampoo and DOT mains: that sign can’t stop me because I can’t read
@furkancakir3417
@furkancakir3417 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's actually diminishing returns. It's just opportunity cost, which accurs naturally. It means, that the relativ damage increase from gaining one stat is lower than from another stat. Since you could've gotten the better stat instead of the worse one and there is a limited amount of total stats you can get, you lost the opportunity of the increase difference the better stat would've gotten you. Basically, when rolling 3 stats Actual diminishing returns: 1atk+0,9atk+0,8atk Star rail: 1atk+1atk (100% increase in atk)+1atk (50% atk increase)
@SmugHomura
@SmugHomura Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people also misuse the term, there's actual implemented diminishing returns which is where you just get less benefit from a stat the higher it gets because the developers coded it that way, and there is relative diminishing returns which means the value of the stat is the same but the value of other stats go up because of the way those stats influence each other. This always comes back in the tension between ATK% and DMG% because the more you have of one, the more value the other gets even if there are no systems in the game that actively devalue your stats. This is also where the 1:2 crit rate/damage ratio comes from. You mathmatically get optimal benefit from both stats if they are in this ratio, if they are out of balance you start losing value point for point (the stat still increases by the same amount but the benefit vs the cost of the stat isn't the same anymore).
@johnemad8336
@johnemad8336 Жыл бұрын
"Why does AMBER give u DEFENCE but DEFENCE gives u HP?" Had me rolling😂
@astro-byun
@astro-byun Жыл бұрын
i literally read this comment while he was saying it. it made it 10x funnier XD
@unuaigbie
@unuaigbie Жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the video
@nitsujchan
@nitsujchan Жыл бұрын
This rant earned my like for this video 😂
@JosoLifts
@JosoLifts Жыл бұрын
SO FUCKING FUNNY LMFAO
@foxiki387
@foxiki387 Жыл бұрын
Landau is more advisable on gepard because you can combine it with his taunt trace and solve your energy problems through the art of being beat up
@jelly2882
@jelly2882 Жыл бұрын
Gepard a masochist confirmed
@backpackpepelon3867
@backpackpepelon3867 Жыл бұрын
His bis weapon in trade shop, moment of victory or something, also got passive taunt 💀.
@yyny0
@yyny0 Жыл бұрын
Gepard + Integrity (trace) + Landau + March 7th is a ~95+% chance for him to get targeted from my experience (excluding AoE and such)
@emberthecatgirl8796
@emberthecatgirl8796 Жыл бұрын
Landau’s Choice is a lot better against bosses, because bosses have decent effect RES and can resist Taunt, while stacking Aggro ignores any CC immunities.
@lespretend
@lespretend Жыл бұрын
@@yyny0 Sure but you don't want gepard and march on the same team. March's slot is better used for pretty much anything else.
@zzweiii13
@zzweiii13 Жыл бұрын
I learned that I should build physical natasha
@NoName-ek2ij
@NoName-ek2ij Жыл бұрын
Swordplay counts on each hits of the skill, not the whole action. So for multi hits skills like Seele's or Dan Heng's, you can instantly get 4 stacks in a single turn
@mateusrodrigues3835
@mateusrodrigues3835 Жыл бұрын
what about sushang's multihit passive/skill?
@skinnylegend1542
@skinnylegend1542 Жыл бұрын
​@@mateusrodrigues3835from my experience she only gets 2 per skill
@jaminonthisbeet3650
@jaminonthisbeet3650 Жыл бұрын
if anyone wonders (i know no one asked) Seqing skills gives you full stack and normal hit gives you four.
@DanielVKim
@DanielVKim Жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that swordplay stacks individual hits, an example would be when Seele uses 1 skill it gets 4 stacks. It's really strong compared to the others especially with high superimposition.
@karuiGaming
@karuiGaming Жыл бұрын
OH Shit really? I was avoiding it because I thought the stacks were per action. Thanks for the fyi dude!
@Rex13013
@Rex13013 Жыл бұрын
​@@karuiGaming Same lol but that is amazing on Yanqing then
@Rex13013
@Rex13013 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info btw
@chaptereight3406
@chaptereight3406 Жыл бұрын
@@Rex13013 Yangqing builds 4 stacks whenever he uses E with swordplay which is pretty good
@chadachi3970
@chadachi3970 Жыл бұрын
@@Rex13013 Dan Heng is also very strong with it because his skill hits 4 times, so Ult -> Skill gives him max stacks in 1 turn, not to mention he has Wind resistance shred. Pair with Bronya Ult + Skill vs bosses with Wind weakness and you have a ridiculous combo. Now imagine you also throw in Tingyun for Atk buff and focus on Crit/Speed in relics, pretty insane for bossing. Though obviously this combo applies to every Hunt character, just the ones with multi hit get so much insane benefit in comparison.
@caebeans
@caebeans Жыл бұрын
abundance's battle pass light cone is neat if you enjoy simulated universe because the 2% healing activates all healing-triggered abundance blessings, including any of the stat-buffing ones, so it makes your healer a relatively consistent applier of abundance blessing buffs
Жыл бұрын
Big brain stuff
@gss0097
@gss0097 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the 1 star blessing that have a small chace to recover a skill point when heal proc occured. Dont have the light cone but used team that can heal {some units self heal like Hook and fire mc}. I never run out of skill point.
@EGO.BReAKERR
@EGO.BReAKERR Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's cool but honestly if you don't want it outside of SU don't go for it lmao SU is easy to beat, MoC isn't
@darccus627
@darccus627 Жыл бұрын
0:00 Intro Best Light Cones 0:32 Rule #1 Dmg% > ATk% 1:03 5 star Atk bonus LC VS 4 star DMG bonus LC 2:03 Results of star BS 4 star LC 2:26 Rule #2 Diminishing Returns 2:59 Best 5 star Destruction Light cone s 3:33 Best 4 star Destruction Light cones 3:51 Scam Destruction Light Cones 4:11 Best 3 star Destruction Light cones 5:06 Best 5 star Hunt Light Cones 5:37 Rule #3 Priorities 6:01 Best 4 star Hunt Light Cones 7:58 Best 3 star Hunt Light Cones 8:52 Best 5 star Erudition Light Cones 10:10 Best 4 star Erudition Light Cones 12:32 Best 3 star Erudition Light Cones 12:56 Summarized Best Erudition Light Cones 13:19 Best 3 Star Harmony Light Cones 13:49 Best 5 Star Harmony Light Cone 15:14 Best 4 Star Harmony Light Cones 16:00 What is Action Advance 17:10 Scam to be Careful of (for now) 18:18 Summarized Best Harmony Light Cones 18:55 Best 5 star Nihility Light Cone 19:15 Best 4 star Nihility Light Cone 20:55 Best 3 star Nihility Light Cone 21:46 Summarized Best Nihility Light Cones 22:00 Preservation Light Cones 22:25 Scam Preservation Light Cone 22:49 Best 4 Star Preservation Light Cones 24:54 Best 5 Star Preservation Light Cones 25:11 Best 3 Star Preservation Light Cones 26:01 Summarized Best Preservation Light Cones 26:13 Best 5 Star Abundance Light Cones 26:29 Best 4 Star Abundance Light Cones 27:00 Best of Best Abundance Light Cone 27:43 Worst Abundance Light Cone 28:10 Best 3 Star Abundance Light Cones 28:25 Worst 3 Star Abundance Light Cones 28:42 Summarized Best Abundance Light Cones 28:56 Rule #4 what you need to know 29:09 Outro
@UlmaAum
@UlmaAum Жыл бұрын
thank you angel from heaven
@Cer049
@Cer049 Жыл бұрын
25:00 the effect hit rate from gepard's cone is actually low-key useful when you consider the relic from world 6 In simulated universe that gives you a bonus 15% def if you're over 50% hit rate
@lazydog7583
@lazydog7583 Жыл бұрын
imo On the fall of an aeon isnt as bad as you think specially on characters like clara who can do counters and stack the attack buff quickly and specially since we be able to refine it to max in future we be able to stack up all the attack in just one turn in aoe situation so 64% atk% but i could be totally wrong though what you guys think? edit :- and also increases dmg for 2 turns after breaking an enemies weakness
@Binaeroooo77
@Binaeroooo77 Жыл бұрын
yes it's good for clara, especially since its free. not really cool to skip over it in this video and say its garbage without explaining anything
@kr00t0n
@kr00t0n Жыл бұрын
@@Binaeroooo77 Plus he completely ignored the DMG% up on break
@lazydog7583
@lazydog7583 Жыл бұрын
@@kr00t0n haha yeah i totally forgot about that
@kr00t0n
@kr00t0n Жыл бұрын
@@lazydog7583 haha, I was actually referring to the video creator :D
@haohao3032
@haohao3032 Жыл бұрын
@@kr00t0n ikr dude I was like "I cant be the only one who noticed this". When he just straight up said aeon is trash I had to cringe so hard
@OkCodeTV
@OkCodeTV Жыл бұрын
- some lightcone that stacks on multiple hits may be fully stacked in 1 or 2 turns due to characters hitting many many times with their animation - the 5* herta cone can still be of used later on as u can max it for free - in a normal proper build u have 2 to 3 slots for atk% but only 1 piece of relic can get dmg% and 1 piece can get crit% mainstat, atk% is the easiest stat to get hence why getting dmg% or crit% on lightcone is more important, this game has same damage formulae with other hoyoverse game so the concept remains the same, its not really diminishing returns but more opportunity cost
@dan_963_
@dan_963_ Жыл бұрын
Bro hands down best light cone /stats explaination video. So many other KZbinrs don't explain it like you do. Learned a lot thanks
@HakimJamil94
@HakimJamil94 Жыл бұрын
​@@dan_963_ Nah, this is terrible. Typical crit/dmg wanker. The guy forgot about how useful atk is for critless/dmgless break/speed/effect builds.
@dan_963_
@dan_963_ Жыл бұрын
@@HakimJamil94 Could you pls explain a bit more for us pls?
@HakimJamil94
@HakimJamil94 Жыл бұрын
@@dan_963_ *Break Damage Ranking* 1. Physical break & Fire break tie 3. Wind break 4. Lightning break & Ice break tie 6. Quantum break & Imaginary break tie *DoT Damage Ranking* Imaginary Entanglement doesnt have damage over time. Physical Bleed is a wild card cuz can be strongest especially against bosses with insane HP or otherwise especially against enemies with small HP, but Physical break will likely kill them anyway. By not accounting Physical Bleed, then: 1. Wind Shear 2. Quantum Entanglement 3. Fire Burn & Lightning Shock tie 5. Ice Freeze 5 Star Light Cones with high ATK are not trash. They allow characters who wants to have both sustained damage & Break damage to use Break, Speed, Energy and/or Effect Hit main stat on your Relics without losing out on damage, especially if you're trying to run Crit as well.
@HakimJamil94
@HakimJamil94 Жыл бұрын
@@dan_963_ Break Effect is like EM from Genshin. Break Damage is triggered when the character break the white Toughness gauge bar (aka enemy shield) above the red HP gauge bar. DoT that was proc by Break is also affected by Break Effect%
@ahmadghazaliismail2679
@ahmadghazaliismail2679 Жыл бұрын
When OkCode remind us dont build physical Natasha. It reminds me of him malding chat to not build dps diona 🤣
@finebook281
@finebook281 Жыл бұрын
ATK does not get diminishing returns at a certain number. Rather, because the formula is ATK * skill multiplier * (1+DMG%) * (1+Crit damage) if you crit, if you overinvest into ATK, DMG%, or Crit, you would gain more damage by investing proportionally into the other two stats. However, because there are a lot of ways to increase ATK, it's easiest to overinvest into, so the more ATK you have, the more damage you would gain by switching some of your damage to DMG% or Crit. However, theoretically, we could get a character in the future who can get so much DMG% that investing into ATK becomes better like Xiao, or a character that gets so much Crit that investing into ATK becomes better like Ayaka.
@sanae99.9.9
@sanae99.9.9 Жыл бұрын
Nah, Xiao And Ayaka is scale better with Atk % because Swirl multiplier is really low and swirl damage cannot crit like overload and Freeze doesn't increase damage at all, it just help you get more crit rate thanks to blizzard set. That why instead make their reaction damage higher, increase their personal damage is better.
@finebook281
@finebook281 Жыл бұрын
@@sanae99.9.9 that's why they scale better with ATK than with EM, which is not what I was talking about. Xiao can prefer ATK over DMG% because he gains so much DMG% from his burst. Ayaka can prefer ATK over crit because she gains so much crit rate from Blizzard Strayer and cryo resonance that now you're stacking all your crit into crit damage and you just get so much. Please read my comment before replying. Also crit rate does increase damage lmao. Critting more often = more damage.
@bletwort2920
@bletwort2920 Жыл бұрын
Xiao immediately came to my mind when he said ATK% has diminishing returns.
@shareye8783
@shareye8783 Жыл бұрын
25:18 I came originally came looking for what light cone to use for my characters, but never had i expected getting a laugh out of it as well. 😅 I never even payed attention to the fact that they named these two cards so wrong. Then it gets funner when he switches to the derpy panda costume lol. 😂 In all seriousness thank you for the helpful tips cause this is really gonna help my team. (And ty for the laughs lol. X3)
@ShapeshifterOS
@ShapeshifterOS Жыл бұрын
Himeko's damage is reliant on dot inflicted by weakness break, so her cone is built around that. With Kafka being a dot buffer I feel this'll be very effective in niche dot damage teams in the future.
@boredbrocc
@boredbrocc Жыл бұрын
i don’t know if i should be happy that i got jing yuan lightcone on accident or if i should still be sad
@thelostpuppy5483
@thelostpuppy5483 Жыл бұрын
Bro the heck, jingyuan lightcone by far the strongest erudition lightcone. It is consistent and super strong.
@Masterom2000x
@Masterom2000x Жыл бұрын
The abundance cone that moves action forward every basic attack is really underrated. It adds so many more skill points allowing you to run 2 skill point hungry people easier, or just be able to spam heals if needed due to banking a lot of skill points.
@gamingadda3577
@gamingadda3577 Жыл бұрын
I just feel that destruction light cones are just too good compared to other path light cones
@sanae99.9.9
@sanae99.9.9 Жыл бұрын
Because destruction class are pretty mediocre compared to others classes so they need broken things to help them
@Shiraion
@Shiraion Жыл бұрын
@@sanae99.9.9 Svarog want to know your location 🗿
@ila_lily
@ila_lily Жыл бұрын
@@sanae99.9.9 you call destruction mediocre but Clara can solo so tell me how is that mediocre
@sanae99.9.9
@sanae99.9.9 Жыл бұрын
@@ila_lily clara then what? 1 good unit doesn't mean the whole class is good
@Fylixe
@Fylixe Жыл бұрын
@@sanae99.9.9 Destruction isn't weak. Clara aside, Hook and Sushang are about par in usefulness (Hook actually outDPSes her single-target in general situations at E6 straight up, but Sushang has better SP economy due to E1 and therefore a better fit with Bronya). Hook is solid. Better general use than Dan Heng at E0, and only 10% less average damage than he does for Single-Target at E6 (both spamming skills under favourable conditions (buff proc'd etc.) while enough multi-target damage to help clear adds. DH gets a reset on Ult kill only, so if you use it on an add your boss DPS actually goes down. If your team needs emergency SP, Hook doesn't lose anywhere near as much damage not using her Skill compared to DH, since her Talent basically doubles her Basic ATK efficiency. She also doesn't really need special attention - over a span of 6 turns, she recovers a minimum of 40% HP automatically AND she gets free Effect RES, alleviating pressure on healer/shielder. She's a better Fire carry than Himeko ffs (I have both, I built both, Hook outputs about 60% more damage than Himeko while dying significantly less). Arlan has a special niche as a zero SP-cost unit. Hard to use, but he has a place on SP hungry teams that also have shields. His base damage is actually decent, his skill at 30% actually beats Dan Heng's buffed Skill without consuming or generating a skill point, and he abuses Secret Vow LC. I wouldn't call that weak, just extremely niche and waiting on teammates, since his best teammates don't exist yet. But has the potential to be useful in the long run as the only ATK scaling zero-SP we know, unlike Dan Heng who's immediately outclassed by Seele on Day 1 (they have the same function, Seele does it better), and Yangqiu, who loses out to Sushang unless you have Gepard. Reminder that Clara exists, and can solo hard-carry in certain situations harder than anyone else, even Seele. So no, I wouldn't classify Destruction as weak. Better to specifically say Seele is busted, and even then, she's the first limited 5*, so you can't compare that to other units. The next three limited units are equally as busted in their class compared to Standard/4*s. Really, with how bad Himeko is for a 5* (she barely beats out Serval) and how irrelevant Herta is, Erudition is the one currently suffering the most. Serval is meh (she deals significantly less damage than you'd like and is a non-factor during bosses), and Qingque is RNG incarnate. They also have really, really shitty cones. Really, if Jingyuan weren't releasing in Phase 2, Erudition would be a joke of a class for the next 4 patches. But you instead go after Destruction...?
@itsmantras
@itsmantras Жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with your content but your model changing every few minutes is very entertaining
@3b0d1999
@3b0d1999 Жыл бұрын
Multiplication actually has great potential for Abundance characters. If you build the healer with really high speed and slap this on her, the healer could turn into a skill points regeneration machine for points-hungry teams. It could be difficult though given the slow base speed on healers.
@christopherflores5405
@christopherflores5405 Жыл бұрын
I bet it'd be great with lou cha based on what you said on your comment. Lou cha heals based on his atk stat and his ult has a purge effect, useful for removing enemy buffs. Having as much speed on him as possible would allow him to deal decent chip dmg and generate skill points plus generate energy for himself so he can spam his ult for added dmg and purge.
@iVertical8871
@iVertical8871 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Ceo for the detailed 30min guide, quenches my content thirst and learnt useful stuff too
@demon_spawn1535
@demon_spawn1535 Жыл бұрын
About swordplay, something I noticed, multi hit skills, like Seele and skill and Dan heng skill, which bit 4 times, stack it 4 times immediately. So its far more consistent than it looks.
@arrazi8625
@arrazi8625 Жыл бұрын
Watching OkCode videos is like listening to your friend rant about the meta, which is why I put this on repeat from 9 to 5 at work so I know I'm not the only one suffering because of HSR meta. Amber and Defense .... really hoyoverse?
@mielmiel1
@mielmiel1 Жыл бұрын
ok pyhsical natasha
@kriszbay3702
@kriszbay3702 Жыл бұрын
Build dps healer guys
@bloody4558
@bloody4558 Жыл бұрын
Fermata is not just good for the corrupt merchant guy, it also works for Welt since Welt always has either Shock or Wind, or both on his team
@norjihads.4144
@norjihads.4144 Жыл бұрын
Jingyuan and his Light cone is what Im savinh for...both of them will come home😊
@babyfinesse_
@babyfinesse_ Жыл бұрын
Same here! Lost the 50/50 to himeko so I wanna save that guaranteee
@MisoMow
@MisoMow Жыл бұрын
Planetary rendezvous will be great for Tingyun later at least for me because I plan on running her with bail, JingYuan and bronya
@jammed_yam
@jammed_yam Жыл бұрын
exactly its already doing numbers for my arlan
@cvlvstia
@cvlvstia 11 ай бұрын
NEW HIMEKOS LC WAS TRASH SONCE I GOT IT STILL BUILT IT FOR JY ITS NOW LVL 80 IM PRETTY SURE ITS STILL SHIT (the fall of the aeon is super good now)
@k.t.aidara3989
@k.t.aidara3989 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr.Code, now I know how to build physical dmg Natasha :D
@taylorsps12
@taylorsps12 Жыл бұрын
the herta store lightcone for destruction has dmg % as well on the secondary effect which is good. just throwing it out there.
@KinderHades
@KinderHades Жыл бұрын
Sword play can be stacked in a single turn if you hit more than once like Seele or Dan Heng does.
@T3hS14ppy
@T3hS14ppy Жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking a f2p friendly 5 * lightcone was called bad. I accept your apology, okcode.
@theLanceInPants
@theLanceInPants Жыл бұрын
Best explanation of the light cones and just general offensive stat prioritization that has been mostly overlooked that I've seen so far. It makes sense that people would overvalue the extra stats early on, but its good to keep in mind the stats we're going to want end game
@kojo2773
@kojo2773 Жыл бұрын
They changed march 7th's signature lightcone. It used to say "increases DMG RES of all allies by 8/9/10/11/12%.". Now it says "All-Type RES of all allies by 8%." Is this a buff or a nerf?
@XLbuffLive
@XLbuffLive Жыл бұрын
I think On the Fall of an Aeon is good for Clara, especially if you use crit rate chest. It's still a guaranteed statstick without gacha.
@kwayke9
@kwayke9 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, she stacks it super fast
@piu4595
@piu4595 Жыл бұрын
You think is worth it? I almost can buy it and wasn’t sure, people is telling me that is not good
@nghiemduonghung9750
@nghiemduonghung9750 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@piu4595 Yes Fall of Aeon is way better than secret vow. Half of Secret vow bonus damage only take effect if your enemies have higher or "equal" HP percentage compare to your character. So at the start of the battle you have 40% bonus damage (what you see in the video) but the next strike will have lower damage due to you having higher hp percentage. Late game, weakness break happens quite often (you have to) so with Fall of Aeon you can easily stacking bonus damage on it, that bonus damage alone surpassed bonus damage from secret vow already.
@piu4595
@piu4595 Жыл бұрын
@@nghiemduonghung9750 then Is okay if I buy it for Clara? I want to build her the best I can
@zykellight1484
@zykellight1484 Жыл бұрын
@@nghiemduonghung9750 the condition for secret vow if your enemies have higher not equal. so the bonus damage not even proc during that test. stacking buff in forgotten hall gonna be suck too. my bad, i went to test it the condition is higher or equal
@vymai7940
@vymai7940 Жыл бұрын
TLDR 4:59 - Destruction 8:43 - Hunt 12:55 - Erudition 18:18 - Harmony 21:48 - Nihility 25:40 - Preservation 28:11 - Abundance
@Daniel-du5ec
@Daniel-du5ec Жыл бұрын
idk...fall of the aeon looks a bit better to me than described here, after all you get 24% dmg boost on weakness break on top of the 64% atk boost on maxed aeon. that coupled with the base stats seems better than just a base 30% dmg boost. Ofc you need to be able to weakness break with your character for that. I'd still probably max hunt first then destruction, then continue to use the currency on standard pulls.
@mercurexi
@mercurexi Жыл бұрын
It's better. Pretty obvious. Easy to +5, better raw stats, +64% attack, easy to stack as Clara and finally, the break bonus damage boost will be up more and more as you reach endgame, since she will be in dedicated teams against, specifically, physical weakness bosses.
@kaito8247
@kaito8247 4 ай бұрын
4:01 wtf wdym higher than the 5* the ON THE FALL OF AN AEON REALLY GIVES U 60% atk and 24% more dmg when u break dmg and not this shitty 4* light cone with 12% atk
@bloonbrawler9872
@bloonbrawler9872 Ай бұрын
That opinion aged poorly
@noivern4346
@noivern4346 Жыл бұрын
The reason why diminishing returns exist is because of math. An increase of 20%atk + 20%atk is diminishing because of PEMDAS so 100(+20%atk +20% atk) is 140, if its +20%atk + 20%dmg it gives 20% of 120 when adding the 20% dmg resulting in 144 total damage
@bletwort2920
@bletwort2920 Жыл бұрын
DMG% also has diminishing returns because it is additive with other DMG% sources. For example, Let’s say my character has 200% CRIT DMG, 100% Elemental DMG Bonus and 100% Ultimate DMG Bonus. That is a total of 400% DMG Bonus on Ultimate. Now, if I add 100% DMG bonus buff. Then the damage my character does will only increase by 25% (400% DMG Bonus -> 500% DMG bonus is a 25% increase). If I add another 100% DMG bonus then, my character’s DMG will increase by only 20% this time (500% DMG Bonus -> 600% DMG bonus is a 20% increase). The more I stack DMG% the less value I get out of it. This is called diminishing returns.
@Hzul_
@Hzul_ Жыл бұрын
wish i wouldve stumbled upon this video before buying the preservation light cone from herta xD
@RyanRickyW
@RyanRickyW Жыл бұрын
Oh damn I already bought that destruction light cone. T.T
@spectralspooky
@spectralspooky Жыл бұрын
The first lightcone works perfect on clara because she attacks whenever an enemy hits her.
@abdurehmanmalik2980
@abdurehmanmalik2980 Жыл бұрын
It is literally made for Clara LOL.
@JuanReyes-dx8gh
@JuanReyes-dx8gh Жыл бұрын
@@abdurehmanmalik2980 i think he means the fall of an aeon one
@SunSun-sk4si
@SunSun-sk4si Жыл бұрын
Even with her stacking the buff quickly, she'll likely get more value out of A Secret Vow than On the Fall of an Aeon. She already gets plenty of atk% between 4pc Champion of Streetwise Boxing and even more if you're running atk% boots since she doesn't particularly need speed boots, so dmg% ends up having much more value on her once she's built decently well.
@mercurexi
@mercurexi Жыл бұрын
@@SunSun-sk4si Except she also gets dmg% out of it, as a breaker, which is what you usually need her for, along damage, against physical weakness bosses.
@verumregis5015
@verumregis5015 Жыл бұрын
Is the lightcone “something irreplaceable” will be good for the upcoming character Blade?
@foxyelpirata6698
@foxyelpirata6698 7 ай бұрын
You know I realized that they changed the passive of Day one to “increases all-type RES of all alíes by 12%” and I felt crazy since it was dmg res before. Glad to see that I’m not going crazy and it was dmg res not alltime blah blah
@nam6282
@nam6282 Жыл бұрын
Well it’s not like I had a choice because I pulled Night on the Milky way from the standard banner 🥲
@irh_xsu
@irh_xsu Жыл бұрын
thx for these vids, it really helps me before I go to TL40 mr chode YEP ok
@leeziyi5290
@leeziyi5290 Жыл бұрын
Day one of my new life lightcone description has changed from DMG resistance to All-type resistance now. So.. lost some bit of value there..
@ikophi7093
@ikophi7093 Жыл бұрын
The thing with fire MC Taunt is that when we'll go up and up in levels, the bosses will get more resist, and if you fail your taunt that's a fat man dropped on your healer's forehead. Aggro is unconditional, no matter the enemy resist, also if you have Gepard, who the fuck cares about damage mitigation ? Bro gives you a second health bar and if you put aggro on him he'll generate energy so much faster and give you another health bar after the 1st one is deapleated. Also for the 4* hunt one wich resets after being hit, it's not as bad as you think, it's not a matter of being hit, it's a matter of taking HP damage, so just shield the unit and voilà, it will never lose the buff
@MightyYoutubeEnjoyer
@MightyYoutubeEnjoyer 9 ай бұрын
i mostly use their 4* signature light cone. edit: the reason why dmg% is better than atk% is because atk% just goes towards your atk while dmg% goes to both your atk and critdmg
@Barbruhhhh
@Barbruhhhh Жыл бұрын
15:18 the 4 star lightcone dance, dance, dance reminds of the hit song from *RRR* 'naatu'. Or maybe I am just overthinking 😅.
@CombineHgrunt
@CombineHgrunt Жыл бұрын
I am purposely spreading misinformation on the internet
@Joutube_is_trash
@Joutube_is_trash Жыл бұрын
The value of the burn effect on tank isnt for them to do damage its just to apply as many burns as possible for your dire dps to utilize
@mobius730
@mobius730 Жыл бұрын
It's for DoT Team in the Future, Serval/Silverwolf, Sampo, Fire MC and Kafka
@krissjp_2040
@krissjp_2040 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I see so many CCs talking about prioritizing 5 star light comes when most 4 stars are just straight up broken lol
@ondjageredacted314
@ondjageredacted314 Жыл бұрын
Night on the Milky Way was the first 5 star item I got in the game... I used it to level Subscribe for More.
@Maruhodo
@Maruhodo Жыл бұрын
i knew "diminishing return" is going to be used incorrectly again. is it because the term is just catchy?
@themantheycalle8234
@themantheycalle8234 Жыл бұрын
bro i got shafted on pity but in exchange have a e4 fox lady and secret vow S4. im torn
@prixivus85
@prixivus85 Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt the 5* Destruction still be good on clara when she can counterattack many times in a round, plus higher base stat?
@Rime_Di_Michelangelo
@Rime_Di_Michelangelo Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Arlan's skill procs "something irreplaceable" light cone passive
@therpgloverreviews7399
@therpgloverreviews7399 Жыл бұрын
the destruction take is pretty mid due to comparing a free cone S2 vs a gacha one at S3 what you straight up might never get, kinda unnfair also not showing the 2nd effect of aeon
@Dark-ux4bi
@Dark-ux4bi Жыл бұрын
if you have welt, by far the best light cone ive seen for him is of all things a 3 star called "loop" if you get it to superimpose 5 its a staggering 48% damage increase, not attack increase DAMAGE increase. its insane
@jeremiahsmith916
@jeremiahsmith916 Жыл бұрын
Loop just might be the Thrilling Tales of HSR ahah. (The one actually great 3* item among other very mediocre ones)
@phantome7973
@phantome7973 Жыл бұрын
Bruh i just bought the destruction card from herta's shop 💀
@okitafan6315
@okitafan6315 Жыл бұрын
Good thing is i was super happy that i got Gepard’s signature Light cone on the normal banner then as i was rolling for Selee light cone i got Gepard’s light cone again so i have superimposiotion 2 right now but tbh i should have not done so but because im salty i didnt think rationally
@scyi.3665
@scyi.3665 Жыл бұрын
The destruction LC from Herta's shop is actually not bad for Clara so I took it. Maybe I should have taken the hunt one for Seele but Clara is too fun
@GamingAlex1
@GamingAlex1 Жыл бұрын
got it as well its good my clara hits like a truck on counters , and eventualy we will have all of them from the shop so doesnt matter to be honest !
@Axicalg
@Axicalg Жыл бұрын
On the Fall of an Aeon R5: 64% ATK increase + 24% DMG increase for 2 turns every time the wearer inflicts weakness break Something Irreplaceable R1: 24% ATK increase + 24% DMG increase until end of the next turn if character is hit or defeats an enemy (+ tiny heal) Both DMG increase procs are unreliable. So why is the first one (farmable in 5 weeks) so garbage compared to the P2W one? I feel like I'm missing something.
@carlosx8603
@carlosx8603 Жыл бұрын
Clara's one has better base stats, and getting hit is way easier than inflicting weakness break. Especially if paired with March who can make you more likely to be targeted. And the holder has to be the one to inflict weakness break which might not always happen.
@rz3264
@rz3264 Жыл бұрын
Because inflicting weakness break is not that easy on elite or boss, while you can getting hit for almost every turn especially clara+march 7 shield taunts.
@juniipurr22
@juniipurr22 Жыл бұрын
i understand the logic behind the diminishing returns when using the destruction cone from herta’s store but couldn’t u just use spd boots and maybe an energy rope to make use of other stats while still having good atk from the light cone?
@Luchamasterfit
@Luchamasterfit Жыл бұрын
Since the game specifically states when a dmg buff effects a DoT, I assume it generally doesnt. So in that case, if you wanted to go a more DoT focused playstyle with say, Hook, atk % may yield better damage over the whole fight. Aeons fall might not be bad for her
@rudyhyde7782
@rudyhyde7782 Жыл бұрын
One of the rewards for spending a certain amount of money at the "Jewerler's Pagoda" at Central Starskiff Haven is the light cone "Past and Future"
@kickrobotsintheballs5840
@kickrobotsintheballs5840 Жыл бұрын
I think Bronya's light cone works on Asta because it doesn't say *target ally with skill* it says *use skill and next ally will get buffed dmg* It's still best for Bronya because she will push that ally's turn forward but it should still work for any harmony character.
@denn2501
@denn2501 Жыл бұрын
It is only really good on bronya unless you have a way to manipulate action order other than using bronya skill. Its not guaranteed for the dps to take the next action which is why it is really only good on bronya who guarantees your dps to take action
@kickrobotsintheballs5840
@kickrobotsintheballs5840 Жыл бұрын
@@denn2501 it's still good because energy recharge and stats, there isn't any better cone for harmony as far as i know.
@Jaxrevanced-ol6tk
@Jaxrevanced-ol6tk Жыл бұрын
I got her light cone and not her... Just using on tingyun now
@kickrobotsintheballs5840
@kickrobotsintheballs5840 Жыл бұрын
@@Jaxrevanced-ol6tk Literally same except no Tingyun.............
@darkgrundi9543
@darkgrundi9543 Жыл бұрын
@@denn2501 It's still good if you run double dps.
@myersenpai
@myersenpai Жыл бұрын
but if they attack clara she then attacks so you get the stacks faster so i’d say it’s pretty solid
@kairu7815
@kairu7815 Жыл бұрын
I'm using the uneversal market on fire mc and hook my hook! become a fire demon you don't need to move just watch them burn. And hook passive she heal himself for every burn it's not supposed to be strong but that's the strongest thing i have seen so far. And if you have character or lightcone that can reduce element res like the upcoming character like silver wolf burning will become meta probably.
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 Жыл бұрын
I love how PomPom is suffering in "Day one of my new life."
@Kickdrawl
@Kickdrawl Жыл бұрын
I found 2 things regarding the swordplay light cone 1: It takes 5 instances of damage to stack, not turns or individual actions. Seele can max out the damage scaling on it instantly with her skill because it hits 5 times. 2: (Could absolutely be wrong) Swordplay is weird, but it seems like as long as you dont swap between two living targets you keep the damage buff. Say you kill a mob with it with Dan Heng, he uses his skill and it stacks up 4 times for every instance of damage his skill does. The enemy dies, if you move to another target after the target you were previously doing damage to dies, then you keep the damage bonus. Its only if you dont alternate between living targets.
@Kickdrawl
@Kickdrawl Жыл бұрын
im fairly certain it could be the best 4 star light cone for the hunt
@doraemon9365
@doraemon9365 Жыл бұрын
Um, can I ask whether to build Qingque with ATK% or DMG%. Like she can buff herself a lot of DMG% buff, especially when you have her at accession 4, I also have Night on the Milky Way R2 so I don't really know what to use on her.
@lanzzallen2000
@lanzzallen2000 Жыл бұрын
Also I think I need to say this according to my observation playing the game there is a difference between a base chance and fixed chance. Base chance can be resisted even if it is 100% if the enemy has resistance to it, it can still nullify it while fixed chance is guarantee percentage. For example if your crit rate has fixed chance of 100% it will crit all the time but if it's only base chance of 100% if the enemy has crit resistance and stuff you won't guarantee that crit. As for the mc tank skill it only has base chance of taunting that is why sometimes stronger enemies still manage to hit my other units with single target attacks and ignore the taunt of my tank mc
@ryuusha5339
@ryuusha5339 Жыл бұрын
Ryuu SHA 1 second ago "You have to crit to use crit-damage" - OkCode -2023
@TomatoesArentReal
@TomatoesArentReal Жыл бұрын
Using "this is me" on fire mc gets you portable nuke with shield
@Sapling-qp1cf
@Sapling-qp1cf Жыл бұрын
DMG% is also additive with other DMG% just like ATK% is additive with other ATK% (and flat). so if you are using Bronya to bring someone up, the difference between ATK% and DMG% will be smaller for example. My current setup, fully buffed Seele, ATK% is technically better for that turn with all buffs, than DMG% as my setup will have 170+ DMG% and around 150 ATK%, FOR THAT ONE TURN. so... click details and do math..? but ya in most cases DMG% > ATK%
@enollis1829
@enollis1829 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't we make an argument for the atk cone? If we take that cone it may allow us to get an energy recharge piece which in return could mean more burst = more overall dmg? Isn't that like the genshin formula? Fav weapons are not high atk weapons but you have so much er for team that ult spam does more damage.
@Goro_Maj1ma
@Goro_Maj1ma Жыл бұрын
Yeah using gepard on fire mc. Deal with it.
@alifsyafiq9940
@alifsyafiq9940 Жыл бұрын
They changed ‘Day one of my new life ‘ lightcone’s effect. Does it still have DMG res??
@kojo2773
@kojo2773 Жыл бұрын
This needs to be upvoted. I also wanna know whether the change is a buff or a nerf.
@barsark254
@barsark254 Жыл бұрын
idk about every hunt unit however the swordplay light cone seele/yanqing put 4 stacks on with a single cast of their skill they dont need 5 turns. yanqing specifically can also proc his follow up and get all 5 stacks with 1 hit so changing targets is minor issue at best if you absolutely must.
@acelegend-ko8yb
@acelegend-ko8yb Жыл бұрын
You can easily gain 4 stacks of damage % from the swordplay lightcone using seele skill. It counts 4 hit because seele hit the enemy 4 times. @okcode so i think its good for seele. I dont know that is intended or not tho
@jriflen8230
@jriflen8230 Жыл бұрын
Id say battle isnt over can be used on asta since it only says when they use a skill not if you target an ally The problem for asta and tingyun using that instead of bronya is that you need to do speed tuning to make sure your nukers go after them to maximize the buffs. Or you could run one harmony triple nukers to solve it. Also say hello to my bruiser natasha. She helps out with damage because she rarely even uses her heals due to how many shields my preservation team deploys. Now if only i could get that E4 march and E6 nat to make them into true bruisers
@hill-2000
@hill-2000 Жыл бұрын
yh obviously you would recommend subscribe for more lol
@karuiGaming
@karuiGaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I have a Clara and she's rocking a Superimpose5 Collapsing Sky still and I was planning on getting the Destruction lightcone from Herta's shop as an upgrade. You have just the right timing to stop me lmao.
@gabbbsworld
@gabbbsworld Жыл бұрын
im too late huh
@karuiGaming
@karuiGaming Жыл бұрын
@@gabbbsworld Oof bro. I started playing like 3 days late but if I started day 1 we may be on the same boat
@sikkouvol.1996
@sikkouvol.1996 Жыл бұрын
This guy is wrong btw, listen to actual theory crafters not youtubers... The herta shop 5star lightcone is as good as clara 5 star LC at S5 and its much better than any 5s 4 star
@chadachi3970
@chadachi3970 Жыл бұрын
There is a slight thing he didn't mention and that is the bonus when you break shields, you gain 12%-24% DMG bonus on top of the stacking 8%-16%x4 Atk it gives. Destruction characters are a mix between ST and AoE with some tankiness, so it's going to be pretty easy to get that break bonus as well. Yeah it's only 2 turns, but in fights where enemies can spawn other enemies, it's a consistent damage source that resets each time you break a bar. It is not bad by any means, you can actually rely almost purely on the Light Cones stacking Atk% and focus on other damage stats in your relics since at max it's 32%-64% Atk that sticks to your character for the entire fight. Just some of the 4* Destruction light cones are really good as well, but the good ones are gacha, while this is guaranteed to be max refine relatively quickly.
@neil5458
@neil5458 Жыл бұрын
​@@sikkouvol.1996 can you link me one
@wynarizaki
@wynarizaki Жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips Mr. Code!
@anxioshcrg490
@anxioshcrg490 Жыл бұрын
My mistake in Star Rail were realizing Super impose late so my Tower Destruc Light cone is just capped to R2 & Level 50...
@gbtygfvyg
@gbtygfvyg Жыл бұрын
I know this is 2 weeks old, but the passive on the Harmony 5 star DOES work for Asta, same with the 4 star light cone Past and Future.
@Methuss87
@Methuss87 Жыл бұрын
Earned a sub from me, very usefull info that nobody talked about.
@momsaccount4033
@momsaccount4033 Жыл бұрын
Why am I attracted to most of your models
@legallydeaf
@legallydeaf Жыл бұрын
the tragedy I felt getting himeko's lightcone instead of gepard
@solidnikita
@solidnikita Жыл бұрын
Defense on March actually carries and/or clutches for me until sim 3 which by then natasha+clara bit**slaps Gepard phases 1-3
@jancojicanoder
@jancojicanoder Жыл бұрын
All I learned is that you must build DPS Natasha Thanks!
@adamcobb7892
@adamcobb7892 Жыл бұрын
I got Bronyas Cone from standard banner so I'll get her on my 300 if I don't get her now till then. I'm saving my guarantee for Jin young. I think that's the name of the lightening dude coming next. I see I'll have to get his cone too.
@darkredcool1
@darkredcool1 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt Planetary Rendezvous applies for other characters of the Element? That means if I run a team with Asta, Himeko and TB Fire, they all get boosted Fire DMG? Meaning they dont have to be all Harmony path characters, right?
@jineng6376
@jineng6376 Жыл бұрын
"But the Battle isn't Over" stacks with itself. I use it on Bronya and Tingyun and get 2 Skillpoints in 1 turn (every 2 turns). I main Sushang and she uses 1-2 skillpoints every time she is attacking because of her ult reset and with the 2 buffers on that light cone it's even more consistent.
@theLanceInPants
@theLanceInPants Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend a playthrough of bronya and sushang or just go f2p team until a better hypercarry comes out?
@sleepy7878
@sleepy7878 Жыл бұрын
@@theLanceInPants supports are harder to power creep so you're safe to build bronya; for sushang unless you get clara shes the only physical dps that we will have for a long time
@jineng6376
@jineng6376 Жыл бұрын
@@theLanceInPants same thing that @sleepy7878 said and also depends on your playstyle. if you like the gameplay of sushang solo carrying and getting 1-3 attacks every turn then go for it. keep in mind that sushang shines the most when she is the only dps in the team and the other 3 characters are there to support only her. I play: Sushang, Bronya, Tingyun, and Bailu. the 2 supports on "But the Battle isn't Over" and the healer on "Quid Pro Quo" so Sushang always has enough Skill Points, Energy and Turns to really melt the enemies.
@cleyra8550
@cleyra8550 Жыл бұрын
The Bronya light cone is literally just for her. Its the next ally taking action. She the only character that can guarantee your carry is gonna go next. You could use it on Tingyun and skill your carry, but who's to say Natasha or someone isn't moving right after her. You'd have to speedcraft the hell outta your squad, in a heavy rng based gearing system.
@thamismedina6394
@thamismedina6394 Жыл бұрын
funny thing about swordplay, the stacks are made by hit and not by an atack turn so if u character hit 4 times it get the 4 stacks, like dan hen for exemplo, and for that i think this pine is actually the best
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