How I Just Built My Own Solar Cheaper!!

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Here are links to everything in the video The aims Inverter Charger amzn.to/3O3p5rK The Morningstar Charge Controller amzn.to/3OwY5m9 The Combiner Box amzn.to/3DzhnRm The Wiring for the panels amzn.to/47bCR4n

[@ArizonaTraditionalOutfitters]

I’ve been watching for awhile now and love the channel and what you have done.I think this is a great video for someone who don’t know about solar.Keep up the good work.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

I appreciate that!

[@briancaulfield1524]

I think this was your best video yet . Love your content. Keep up the awesome work. God bless 🙏

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Thank you! Will do!

[@SonOfCreator69]

You're Totally Awesome Bro! Thanks for sharing the Knowledge! 👍

[@Drillerusa1]

I really liked your video. It’s nice to see a job as its first put together before everything is neatly put away. You do a very good job of explaining yourself. Keep up the good work.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@vettegirl05]

This was really well done. Thank you for sharing your set up.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@noahsarkansashomestead]

Good video, Thanks for keeping it simple 👍👍👍

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

no prob

[@roddygelabale816]

Yep! Exactly what it sounds like! Brother I like how you get straight to the point.

[@gameshark0703]

Really good info. Much appreciated.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

right on

[@dannyj5688]

Simple explanation and understandable!!!! Thanks for the video

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

You bet!

[@shanetravel]

Actually learned about solar. Thank you man.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

good deal!!

[@mister.beastly]

cool sir. I recently stepped up to 25,000 watts of Solar Panels but I still like watching vids with various setups. I'm sure you've taught many. :) .. ...Anyways As far as the 25,000 watts of Solar Panels go. I really didn't need that much as it's definitely an overkill but I found a really great deal that I just couldn't pass it up. I see this vid was posted a year ago. I hope things are still going well for you. I just Liked & Subscribed

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@mister.beastly thanks for subscribing man and wow 25,000 watts is awesome.. yeah maybe that is an Overkill in some situations but man you have to admit you can run anything. What size is your battery bank? In what type of batteries are you using? But yeah for sure my system still running good right now I had to change the inverter out you may see that if you check out some of the other videos I went to a cheaper high frequency inverter but yet so far I've had no problems out of them. I upgraded to that eg4 3000

[@wdwtx2.0]

You can buy an all-in-one solar controller/inverter. EG4 makes a 6000 watt controller that sells for around $1500. Just plug your solar panels into it. It puts out 48V to your batteries, and 240v/120v AC output. One component controls everything.

[@realeyesrealizereallies6828]

You could also run all those panels in series, as long as your charge controller can handle that much voltage, which is more efficient..And you don't need a combiner box, but an in line fuse is a good idea..My system has 450 Volts of solar going into my charge controller, it can handle 500 volts, my system is a 48 volt system though..The best deals these days are all in one inverter/charge controller from mpp solar, and Lipo4 server rack batteries...Much easier, cheap, more reliable with ten year warranties..But, nice system, I had one just like it, a few years back, before going Lithium..

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

That's all good and everything man but I do not see we're raising the volts to 450 and then having to knock it down to 48 and then bring it back up to 120 is more efficient. The high-voltage is only efficient over long wire runs such as substations to telephone poles two houses. Running a high voltage on a short wire is just going to heat up your charge controller in order to bring it back close to the 120 you're trying to achieve in the end. The most efficient way is to bring your DC power up to around 120 and then transfer it to 120 AC and that's how you will lose the least power through heat burn off on the fins of the charge controller. But a system like that would require 120-volt DC inverter

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

I started thinking I bet you have the EG4 inverter/charge controller

[@brentjohnson6654]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRIDgood video. The idea behind the higher voltage is to carry less current requiring less cable size to carry the power. It is a good idea to run the PV input at a higher voltage then you don’t have to spend a lot of $ on thicker cable. You may realize this and I am not trying to school you in any way just thought I would give you a reason to run higher voltage. Hope this makes sense. If not ask me a question. All the best! God Bless you. Waving from north Texas.

[@realeyesrealizereallies6828]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID Sure do, two EG4 inverter charge controllers in Parallel and 2 server rack batteries, with more coming in the future, although I might build the next battery out of raw prismatic Lipo4 Catl cells..EG4 and MPP are the same product with different names, but Signature Solar sell them both..By More efficient I mean your using less wire, no parallel solar panel strings, no combiner box, faster charge times..Not concerned about losing some heat generated by the sun..The sun isn't going to burn out anytime soon, efficient for me, is the goal..And the products have long warranties with a great track record and build quality..

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@brentjohnson6654 yes sir thank you very much I'm actually about to do another system and I may be wiring it up to about 500 volts I'm doing some study on it it's just New Territory for me

[@kim0007]

Justin, many thanks. You made it so easy to be able to install everything. I checked the links you gave and it was worth the visit. I am wondering how you would go about checking the batteries when one or a couple are failing or drained out. To see which ones are shot. With a sharp-ended light-up fuse tester or ? Unhooked, hooked-up? If you unhook any lines, would it be best to cover the end which hooks onto the battery or the post, to prevent a mishap?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

always be careful when you have a powerful battery bank of this size ran together. never let anything touch or ground out...you will regret it. as far as the batteries you would fully charge them one day until they are in float mode...then unhook each battery from each other keep them independent until the next day...then come out in the morning and test each one with ah tester and voltage tester...and testing each cell with a hydrometer...all of these things will let you know if there is a problem from a certain individual battery

[@nancywilliams7997]

Thanks for showing this video.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

You bet!

[@jacobchadwellandfam4756]

Western Oklahoma here, dig your setup so much we have decided to pull the plug ourselves on anything and all mainstream . Thanks for the motivation brother This world I feel is about to go dark for a bit so folks better get their affairs in order and get prepped today...

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Right on..good deal...get prepared soon

[@paul_gilbert]

Really helpful video, thanks.

[@geeman4576]

New sub your channel is AWESOME 😎

[@joeylitz7444]

Great video

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Thanks!

[@dwatson4]

Find your local CED Greentech renewables distributor, ask about their graveyard modules and scratch and dent modules. You can get really good deals on solar mods this way. They may be a year or 2 old and be a lower wattage than the new stuff but just check the price per watt. Other open box parts may also be available.

[@asedcopf]

thanks for the vid - can you please put some caps on those battery terminals 😮

[@flolou8496]

At minute 7:58 when you mentioned your total watts from all your 48Volt panels is 3100 Watts, but is this just the peak wattage for 1 or 2 hours of strong sunlight ?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Yes highest power available

[@WayneTheSeine]

Awesome setup. The panel racks are fantastic, simple, clean and cheap. A few questions, how many watts is the inverter, how many amp hours of batteries did you say you have and their costs? What is the maximum wattage you use in your home and average wattage? Being in Oklahoma do you worry about hail? BTW, I use to fish Broken Bow quite a bit until they damn near killed me and a buddy of mine. Good video Justin.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

inverter 2000 watts with 6000 surge for 20 seconds...48 volts @200 ah ...max watts I use is probably around 1050 for short periods at once....that's daytime a/c fridge fan tv well pump here and there...

[@Electronzap]

Nice setup.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Thanks!

[@DavidCheok]

Those wires going into the charge controller without some sort of protective shielding against the sharp metal edges is a fire waiting to happen.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

they have a protective coating on the metal not really sharp..but ya i see your point thanks!

[@JonOffgrid]

This gave me a idra to try planels i. Srires of 2 right now i am doing them in 3 s

[@Lana_Warwick]

Hello, best "Off-grid Solar for Dummies" I've seen, after Many, in only 16min. However, I was still left a little dumb. Nothing mentioned about suitable switch/s in the combiner box (guess it was only one). 48v into 45amp charge controller, "have to be careful", what happens if your not? Should 65amp be used instead? Why 6v batteries vs 12v (lead). And what would the equivalent of lithium be for your set-up? Is 3000w inverter enough for you? Can you plug in one of those portable camping ones in the house if you need a little extra? What's your opinion of the equipment today, vs similarly priced Victron Energy MultiPlus-II ?

[@certainways1213]

I like the inverter. And charges too? Wow, cause I was wondering about the system like thinking does it store a charge when there's no sunlight till the source becomes available. Nice system Brother....

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Yes it does absolutely....you have power 24/7

[@kim0007]

New to batteries, when hooking up a battery, 1. Positive first 2. Negative only after Positive. Black is negative which is ground ( grounding, makes the wires come to life). Unhooking batteries, 1. Negative first, always. 2. Positive last. Hooking up wrong can explode the batteries and damage you.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

well known but a good point to beginners

[@projectqueen610]

Wow! Thank you.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

welcome

[@donb6474]

Thanks for the story. I don't agree with all of your numbers. I am not saying you are wrong. I just have a different understanding. Lets start with 45. Your controller have 45 amps. To me this is the max amount of amps that go to the battery. Not the max amount of input amps. Your input PV is MAX 150 volts and 2400 watts for a 48 volt system. Now having extra watts helps on cloudy days but on sunny days it is just burned up. Anyways that is my understanding how things work.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Hey man I'm definitely not perfect when it comes to this stuff.. I only know what I believe I learned which isn't necessarily always correct. When I went to the morning start website and check what you were saying it does seem that you are correct and that the charge controller at 48 volts is only rated for 2400 watts.. I really don't like that idea so I am definitely going to be upgrading my charge controller because I am as we speak adding more panels. Well I've been running to systems like this for a long time and I have seen on one of the system's 3,200 watts on the meter and I have also seen 42 amps coming through. Now I don't know if that is just what the panels were producing or it was a total of what was going into the batteries and what was being used on the house at the same time. Like I said I'm not a professional just a do-it-yourself guy and I'm still learning

[@julespleeswoah859]

You got any earthing/grounding on that system big dog? Id recommend it.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

yes sir little kitty...two grounds 🤣

[@coziii.1829]

Also I’m looking at aptos DNA 440 watt solar panel bifacial Batteries is between fortress batteries and ark And inverter and stuff either Schneider or sol ark But I here sol ark has some issues . And plus I have no clue what other things I need etc Like wire or ground mounts Fuses , breakers Etc I might higher but I would love to do it I’m probably making it look worse than it is But right now I’m saving up to slowly piece it together

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

👍

[@RLoose9494]

I never observed any circuit breakers also wires were not protected going into charge controller? Be careful! Over all good deal!.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Four different circuit breakers in the combination box

[@LowVlogDrives]

U explained that perfectly!!!!!! And i understood 😂

[@flolou8496]

Dumb question time: Why the trouble of connecting two 24 VOLT panels instead of a sinlge 48VOLT panel? (do they not make them that large for residential application?)

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Never seen one...

[@creditcardhelp8824]

How long can you run your window air conditioner

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

all day long when the sun is out with no problems...but when sun goes down around 4 hours tops and batteries start to get 30% discharged and i dont like to go below that...could go longer with a larger batt bank

[@nothere928]

how many acres is that?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

30

[@coziii.1829]

I’m in Oklahoma trying to a solar thing Can’t decide off grid or hybrid Plus trying to figure out all the cost I not sure if I can do it myself as well Kinda scary

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

yes you can...and don't connect to the grid. Then they will know you have it...trust me

[@theadjuster151]

​@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRIDkinda sounds like he wants to hire you doesn't it?

[@frankmaze1972]

I paid $26 for each of my 235w panels from santan solar.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

My point made

[@hamadilawson4471]

Haven't seen a price that good in a while from San tan. What capacity are they?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@hamadilawson4471 check out fb market ...i find ware houses selling them all the time new in bulk on pallets for cheap

[@matthewknight5641]

It takes a fairly large array to be able to operate and still charge even on cloudy days. Lots of panels lots of battery atleast 200 amps of charge controllers

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@matthewknight5641 I float on cloudy days lots of not every time but lots of times

[@Golfreak]

You just can't do a solar system these days with lead acid batteries. Lifepo4 batteries are too cheap. You mentioned that money was in issue when you did this system and then you mentioned that the batteries were $1k-1.2k. This video is 3 months old. 4 decent 100ah lifepo4 batteries should run you ~$1k. Much better alternatives.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Thanks for all the advice. I built this system almost 3 years ago. I knew nothing about lithium batteries at that point. And I'm pretty sure they were a lot higher and not as available as they are now. I had eight 6 volt battery cores at the time. Also the one you're talking about that are around 279 Dollars plus tax 12v 100ah are mostly cheap Chinese made with a very fragile BMS.... Fast forward 3 years and I am now building systems with life po4 batteries and I plan on changing mine soon... But as it stands my batteries are still in excellent condition with about 7 years left... So I haven't quite decided what I'm going to do yet

[@ghz24]

​@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRIDBattery hookup has deals on batteries like santan does panels. Got 14 kWh of LiFePO4 in two prebuilt 24 volt modules for $1800 delivered. I'm confused on the whole need to classify the panels as 24 volt. Eg4 has a 3000 watt all in one inverter with built in mppt solar input up to 450 volt ($650) so you could have ran all the panels in series ditched the combiner box and ran the 420-330 volt single line to the inverter. Or two arrays of 5 panels each and still wouldn't need the combiner box.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@ghz24 I purchased the system almost 3 years ago in pieces that's why I have what I have... As far as eg4 equipment I know all about it if you'll take a look on my channel you'll see I did a video on a complete eg4 system that's pretty awesome with 20 kilowatts worth a batteries and the same inverter you're talking about

[@ghz24]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID I caught that, it was a suggestion for a source when you upgrade or add on. I found the server rack eg4 batteries to be pricey for the capacity so I went with the reclaimed modules. I did like the communication feature so I got a pricey BMS that gives me that feature according to reviews reporting it works. (Crossed fingers) Another suggestion you probably already know about but seems a perfect fit for you, have you seen the eg4 mini-splits with solar inputs? Probably have an installation video already, I'll go check out your channel now.

[@jacobchadwellandfam4756]

​@ghz24 what about the 52v for $1500, could you do it with just one module for a 48 v setup? Batteries are the most expensive part so just trying to figure it out. Thanks

[@jasonbroom7147]

Surprisingly, I liked this video. There are some things I definitely think you could improve upon, like burying the wiring in a conduit to protect it from damage, but overall this was a really good video on how to build a simple solar setup. The one thing where I strongly disagree with you is on the batteries you chose. These days, going with any lead-acid battery solution, over lithium iron-phosphate, just isn't a smart move, money-wise. You bought 8 of those 6 volt, 200 amp-hour batteries, but because they are lead-acid you should avoid discharging them below about 50% state of charge, if you want them to last more than a few years. That means you have about 100 amp-hours worth of capacity. You could buy four, 12-volt, 100 amp-hour, lithium iron-phosphate batteries for just a little more than you paid for those lead-acid batteries, but you'd get the full 100 amp-hours worth of capacity, plus they'd last a good 8 to 10 years. I'm willing to bet that in 3-5 years, when those lead-acid batteries are no longer able to keep up, you will sharpen your pencil a bit and realize you should have gone with the lithiums. The only exception to this is if you are often at risk of charging your batteries while the cells are at a below freezing temperature. Even that is very easy to fix with a heated battery box. Other than the batteries, I think you did a good job putting that system together.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Well to be honest with you it was circumstances as to why I got led acid batteries two years ago and not the lithium. Didn't have 3 k for lithium an d had cores for 6 volts. If I had the 3k at the time I would have got the more efficient batteries I understand that I can only run them 50 percent discharge if they are going to last I have another system with 16 6 volt batteries on there 8th year.

[@theadjuster151]

​@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID It's all good Justin. Most people think everyone has money like this guy who commented.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@theadjuster151 👌

[@theadjuster151]

I really wish you would do a video where you convert solar into watts, Amp, etc so us common folk would know how much we need to power basics like fridge, ac, lamps, etc. Seems like the solar voltage is different from regular ac voltage ⚡️ I don't know. Thanks brother keep up the great work!

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@theadjuster151 okay got you man I'll see if I can throw something together

[@rogue0921]

May I ask why you put your combiner box on the tree when you should've put it right there on your panel frame or the flagpole? Is there a reason you're using lead acid instead of lithium? Lithium is more cost effective.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

I put it there because when I built the system the panels were all laying on the ground with four by four blocks under them to give them the correct angle . I built the racks for the panels and got them off the ground a year later. I wasn't going to just throw the combiner box on the ground next to the panels. I used led acid because I did not have $3,000 for 200 amp hours of lithium. I paid 1000 for the led acid

[@rogue0921]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID that makes good sense. I was only asking because I purchased three new Lthium ion 100amh batteries, for a total of 300 amh for under $1000. I enjoyed watching your video and look forward to your future videos.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

@@rogue0921 where did you get those I'm currently looking for 100 amp-hour 48 volt batteries

[@mikefiatx19]

Does two 33v panels not make 66v? Not 48v. Does that mean you could run a 52v system instead of 48v?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

its always higher than the required voltage in order to be able to have the power to charge..example 12 volt cant properly charge a 12 volt battery...you need about 14.2 volts to charge 12 volt up

[@mikefiatx19]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID Thanks for clearing it up for me.

[@SarahStuff-p5u]

Short answer yes, he is a bit confused on things but has good intentions, with a step converter you can tech charge a 48v battery with a single 100w panel, the amps would take like forever though

[@kurtbatman8062]

​@@SarahStuff-p5uWhy incorporate more expensive power electronics when you could just configure your panels properly

[@creditcardhelp8824]

How much does this whole system cost

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

depends on the price you can find the panels on fb market or used or new....all your choice...but makes all the difference in the cost...the other equipment is listed in the description of the video with the links

[@slideoff666]

aw, nuts, did i miss it?? hey, buddy, what was that website you were talking about with the discounted solar panels? thanks!! 🙌

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

i can get them brand new just as cheap now...email me for the link

[@macdaddychief]

At 8:00, the message says 48 volts at 44 amps is 3100 watts. My math says it's 2,112 watts. That's assuming 100 percent efficiency, which doesn't exist in solar.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

the panels are rated at 3100 watts...i have seen 44 amps on the monitor and i believe somewhere around 24 0r 2600 watts when batteries where charging heavy and i had a load going the panels are 310 watts each..there are 10...let me know if I am confused...or we just have a mis understanding

[@matthewknight5641]

You will go over 33 volts on a really cold sunny day. It will actually do the voc if it's cold enough from what I hear but I'm actually not 100 percent on that

[@matthewknight5641]

If you might be interested in some leaf modules I can give you a really good deal on a bunch of them. I have 24 modules and my buddy has 48 for sale cheap also. I have active balancers already on them and they would be a game changer for you

[@bobcole3852]

May I suggest you mention DC to AC sometime? For beginners it might be handy. Just sayin'...

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

True story never crossed my mind sorry about that

[@CoverageAwarenessStudio]

have you ever thought about adding a Tesla power wall to store more power...

[@julespleeswoah859]

Why? It's just an overpriced battery?

[@offgridprep]

Great video! I have a cabin near Antlers Oklahoma i’m working on but just doing 12v system for now

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Awesome that's close to me

[@grampsradio]

7:58 - That should be 2,100 watts. 48 volts X 44 Amps = 2,112 watts.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

most times hits 2100 but more on cool days good sun days ect so more amps at times im sure..i don't watch it too close anymore because it runs everything just fine

[@Todd_G_FPV]

This looks like the guy who held his wife hostage in his bigrig because he thought she was cheating then tried to take out the cops but gto his engine shot by a 50 cal gun and made him come to a stop, then he soent 7 more years in prison after a nice tazing lol good job on the solar setup man, glad to see you doing better!

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Yeah well I'm sure I've had my jealous rages in my younger days but whoever the heck you're talking about was not me 😂

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID haha! I was just messing with u man, but seriously tho, I did just watch a episode of greatest police chases and a guy that kind of resembles you did do all that! Crazy story but true lol have a good day man

[@errndog]

Where's the video of going from the battery shed to your house breaker box?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

no vid yet..not much to it. rented a dredger ran 6 gauge 3 wire to the fuse box in the house

[@slideoff666]

"...literally." 🤣

[@JonOffgrid]

🎉

[@tweedeldee8122]

Walmart has Chins 100ah Lifepo4 12v for $266. I'm running two in series for a small 24v system. 8 of them would be $2128. You shouldn't run lead acid down to 10/15/20 % like you can Lifepo4. So you really don't get the AH like you do with Lifepo4. Lifepo4 should be good for 10yrs or more. No maintenance.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

yes sir.. this is true..money was an issue at the time i was building the system

[@tweedeldee8122]

@@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID I understand. My dad grew up making do with what ever he had, but it never stopped him from gettin it done. The American spirit of self sufficiency lives on in many of us, no matter what it takes.

[@samfish6938]

I WONDER DO YOU GET 3 SHADING

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

sometimes

[@onejohn2.26]

you mentioned that hooking them positive to negative is in series ...it is not it is in parallel secondly why would you run six volt batteries when you can run 12-volt batteries and have two Less batteries in the system?

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

first off..hooking them positive to negative is in series...second the 6 volt batteries here are 225amp hours per battery....good luck finding a 225 ah 12 volt battery for the same cost...it will be double the cost and double the size.which would defeat the purpose that you are trying to achieve. It has always been a well known thing to use 6 volt golf cart batteries for solar because of the massive amp hours.and finally if you used 12 volt batteries in this system it would not be two batteries less it would be 4......there is a total of 8 6volt batteries in this system to make 48 volts.

[@douglasrobbie9998]

Your system is doing ok, not great, as far as voltage drop/power lost in wires. 2 panels in series has 68v output mpp and probably 10amps so using 10g solar wire and 40' to combiner box you lose just .95v or 1.4%. DC going from combiner box to shed- 68v, 40amps, 10g wire and 40' distance leads to 3.8V drop or 5.6%. This is ok but not very good. Shed to house- 120v AC, 30amps est, 10g wire and again 40' distance leads to 2.9v drop or 2.4% drop. All these calcs is via Calculator net. You can do your own calcs if my numbers are off. The DC loses would be cut in half if you put 4 panels in series, bringing voltage up to 136v mpp (if your controller can handle this and near 150v VOC). 3 panels in series might be safer/better in line with controller max VOC, reduce voltage loss from current situation, but requires panels in multiples of 3 (3, 6, 9, 12). Note- if you need to go with higher MPPT controller on a budget- MakeSkyBlue has 60A one for $150 (but has fan) and HQST has 60A one for around $200 (no fan) both can take more PV input than your current controller and both have 150v max VOC.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Thanks for all the info. My footage from the combiner box to the farthest away panels is about 20 ft... And I believe from the shed to the house I used a 6 gauge direct burial and I think I'm 170 ft when I measure the voltage at the inverter on the AC side it is around 1:22 or 1:23 at times when I measure the voltage in the house it's at 121 to 119

[@SarahStuff-p5u]

Really should not get in the habit of thinking of those as 24 or 48 in series, they are 33 and 66, as you go upward in series combinations that math really can bite you overloading an inverter, if an inverter can take in 145v, your math says 6 panels ....but the actual math might lead you to put 6 in series and that would actually overvolt the inverter with 198v

[@SarahStuff-p5u]

Short concept, just call panels what they are, ya got 33v panels ;-)

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

ill teach that in the next vid

[@EmpireEnglishSchool]

You’re funny 😆

[@asus12351]

One tip if you use mppt controller you don't have to match the voltage of the panel with the battery just don't exceed the voltage limit of the charge controller. So it's possible to use 12 24 or 36 volt panels if you wish.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Ya I'm learning that this go around

[@mjkay8660]

too bad i cant use tin foil for solar panels..

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

sure ...too bad 🤣

[@pegsol3834]

Way over my head.

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

Na na...you can do it

[@iancesar816]

Number 1. There's no such thing as 12v, 24v, 36v or 48v panels. You cant hook up your panels to the battery without a charge controllers. Please lets stop calling anything a solar panel is for

[@OKLAHOMAOFFGRID]

i guess before your time sir we called panels 12 volt 24 and 36...you use to could not wire them all in series back in the day because the charge controllers were not capable of more than 17 volts dc voc

[@ThomasNowicki-m5s]

yes you dit it cheaperr. 600$ for charger controller if much better stuff cost

[@michaelwells7348]

~ Now thats one of the reasons County life can be Better. Where I live ~ they would pick U clean Take your whole set up .... and then steal your Truck to Drive it all to the Thrift Market . and it would only take them 20 minutes to do all that...