Old Digital Cameras Are Still Good (a look back & reminder)

[@martinpickard5818]

I had two Nikon D4s’s for my motorsport.16mp and I loved the files coming out of those bodies and had many images blown up life size….just a pleasure to work with….

[@richperspective2999]

I still use a D4 as my main camera despite it being 10 years old. Nobody has ever looked at the images and said "could do with being higher resolution". The quest for massive MPs is pretty silly, in my view.

[@matthewneiman]

Tons of photos from my old T3i are still some of my absolute favorites I've ever taken. It's always humbling to see work that I still love on a $500 beginner camera that's now a decade old.

[@CanoeToNewOrleans]

Same here; I bought a T4i in 2016 for $450 and I still love it. The images are solid as long as the ISO is kept below 1600.

[@fiver-hoo]

I still use a T3i as my daily backup camera

[@matthewclapperton8673]

For those Nikon shooters the d600 & d610 are as good as most people will ever need and can be found for under £300. Great episode Kyle!

[@villegas24]

Hot take, your old files are good because you were already a good photographer back then. I have seen people with current gear that publish files that look as if they were taken on a flip phone

[@nickyyves2678]

Sure but he’s more comparing the image quality/flexibility than the beauty of the images he took

[@c0smoKram3r]

Hot take? True take! That and editing.

[@Boomdang1001]

Yeah but that’s kinda his point. It’s not really the camera that matters, because a lot of these older less expensive cameras are still usable by today’s standards.

[@CameraNostalgiaClub]

Old digital cameras were my way into photography fairly recently. I had always shied away from it because of the prices and thinking I needed the latest camera out to take somewhat good pictures. I’ve slowly built my way into the space and have learnt tons about cameras and photography in general and am now thinking about getting a “serious” camera to take the next step! Great video man love your channel very inspiring and informative 🤝📸✨

[@goldenhourkodak]

I LOVE my Nikon D80 from 2006. It's a 10MP CCD sensor. When I'm not shooting film, this is my go-to.

[@hit.the_north]

Those vibrant contrasty ccd shots give the images a feel of the Stephen Shore, Joel M/S road trip pics 👌

[@jackjemison5977]

like the abbreviation for meyerowitz/sternfield lmao

[@andreasezelius2750]

Made the same journey back to old images. What struck me was most of the images were 10-16mp and concidered old and obsolete today. But I didnt once wish for more megapixels when I looked at those images. So... I just sold my gfx 50r and am going back to MFT because the image quality is good enough and software has improved so much that the iso is not an issue either. Love your videos, keep it up!

[@DI-cm5xc]

Spot on about the software. I have used a couple of D700s for many years and recently picked up a D850 (now sold) just to compare. I found the D700 files would res up very easily in Lightroom to rival the D850 if I needed that much resolution, which I just really don't. Also love the smaller files from the low MP cameras. The features of modern cameras can be great if needed, but my type of photography is very deliberate and slow, so these features are of little importance to me.

[@c0smoKram3r]

Loving my 2014 Olympus these days!!

[@jkroemer2685]

Which mft camera did you go back to? I just picked up a nearly new gx8 to go with my Leica Q

[@andreasezelius2750]

Right now I have an OM1 for birding and a Lumix S1 for the rest. I enjoy the rangefinder style bodies so im looking at getting a gx8 or gx9 again. Perhaps an xpro2 as well if i can find one at a good price.

[@jkroemer2685]

@@andreasezelius2750 there are good deals on the gx8 bodies (under $600). I paid $435 for mine and came with a kit lens with 525 shutter count! The gx9 will probably be around $800-900. I looked at the x pro 2’s as well.

[@tollemanthewoodsman]

Great video! I started out with photography in 2020 using a Nikon D70s (a 6MP sensor). I eventually upgraded to a D7200, but I recommend something like to D70s to anyone starting out on a budget. The thing is that my skills starting out were not good enough to take advantage of the performance of a more modern camera, but I did not (and still do not) enjoy taking photos with my phone. The older camera was perfect for me to figure out if photography was something I was interested in pursuing.

[@kennethhughes8392]

I bought a Pentax K10D recently, spares and repairs from MPB, and have been pretty impressed with the output from it. It has some quirks (broken diopter, all photos output upside down), but when I compare it against the quality of my K3iii, it compares very favorably. Less latitude for cropping, but the way it renders with that CCD sensor is very nice and pleasing. For something I bought solely for converting a lens from a broken AF motor to using screwmount AF, it's been a real surprise and joy to use. Been talking to a mate about it, who is not into photography but is curious, and I told him it's worth picking up an old Pentax and a cheap lens or two just to satisfy his curiosity.

[@ubeeh]

Thanks - great thoughts! I still have my Canon EOS 6D and would never give it away. Its sensor is still so much better in low light than modern cameras (and yes, I have some very recent models). I also dug out some older Canon point and shoot cameras during the pandemic, and some of them are still good today.

[@MrMacroJesseSky]

I’ll say my Fuji finepix s3 pro has some of the best rendering, colors, and rolloff I’ve ever seen. 6mpx CCD, is fine for social media as well.

[@somegeezer]

Canon 5D is my main. Love it and will love it for as long as it and I keep going.

[@mgscheue]

People shot magazine covers with 6 megapixel cameras. They were quite good. I had (actually, still have) a Nikon D100 and D2x and I was very happy with them. I recently backed up a bunch of old hard drives onto a new, much bigger drive, imported some into Lightroom, and I was impressed. Especially nice to be able to re-work old RAW files using present-day software with amazing de-noising, etc.

[@KyleMcDougall]

I still miss the Rd1s. Such a fun one! And yeah, the digital files mixed nicely. I find when working on a project, regardless of digital or film, images end up looking fairly similar as you just naturally edit things the same way.

[@ryanmoorman7799]

recently picked up a canon 40d (released around the same time as the 5d classic, very similar color science) and you're so right about how well older cameras respond to presets. i'm also surprised by how little editing is needed to get good results. and shocked by how good the dynamic range and low light performance is for a 17 year old camera. totally worth the $70 i payed for the body!

[@srmrlr]

I got back into photography recently, after a 23 year absence. I bought a Pentax K200D, 10 MP. And grabbed some lenses. I've had a lot of fun with it. I got a good deal on a Pentax K3 mark ii 24 MP. and while I like it, somehow, I like the K200d better. And just for giggles, I picked up a 6MP Pentax *ist DL. And I really like the look it gives For perspective, the first digital camera I used was a Kodak DCS200, 1.3 MP in 1994...

[@derrenleepoole]

I know I commented on your last video on desiring a medium format system like you use now, but I’m a recent convert on the Canon 5C and it’s a phenomenal camera. The image quality and file flexibility are excellent. Off the back of that purchase I picked up the 5Dii and no regrets. The myth of Canon colours I fully understand now. The files are so nice to use and the colour and tonality are so nice. I picked up both bodies for one hundred quid each. Which is crazy when you think about it.

[@ThomasL.116]

Great video and topic! I still have a 5DmkII as the main camera for the 'high quality' pictures, and lately added some older cameras like a Minolta from '03 or the Olympus e-p1. What i like with these two old cameras is how they render the shadows. Detail may get lost but they still don't reach full black and stay in a very natural feeling tonality, which not only does look nice straight out of camera, but also offers a nice different kind of editing the contrast later, with no full black but also no impression of a 'faded look'. Love it!

[@MacnTeensVisuals]

Couldn't agree more. There is definitely too much hype around getting the latest and greatest camera.

[@AaronAnalog1]

Love this! I recently picked up the original Fuji X100 and Nikon D200 for THE LOOK, best money I've spent in years. I think the First Canon 5D and Nikon D700 are the best value in full frame these days.

[@bigboichoi0073]

I absolutely love my only digital camera aps-c 2016 Fuji film x-t10 with a vintage Rico Xr Rikenon 50mm f1.7 lens. The 16.3 MP raw files still look lovely

[@SatanSupimpa]

At the beginning of last year I bought a Canon Powershot G10 for around $15, because it had some fungus in the lens. The idea was to have a cheap small camera with me all the time to take some carefree snapshots, but the camera ended up being much more capable than I imagined and I shot almost exclusively with it for almost the whole year, when it sadely died. I still want to buy another one, or maybe a G11 or G12, that sacrifices a few mega pixels for a bit cleaner higher iso performance.

[@FoxyFQ300]

Lovely stuff mate! The New Nikon ZF has a similar feel regarding filmic and relating to presets and ease to work with, thats coming from using an r5 and gfx

[@robstammers7149]

I have been using several vintage digital cameras for a while and I love the results. Mainly using Sony DSC R1 Sony DSC F828 Canon Powershot Pro 1 And Minolta Dimage 7i These cameras are just amazing. Great video, many thanks. Regards Rob.

[@kenblair2538]

Great video, Kyle. I used my Olympus E-1, up until 5 years ago, when I upgraded to E-30. No issued, printing Super A3 (13x19) prints on my Canon printer. I photograph landscapes and nature images. After all, it's the images that counts . I prefer to work on my creativity and finished with new toys. Thanks. KB

[@theangrymarmot8336]

I still regularly use my 2004 era Konica Minolta 7D (6.1mp) and it takes beautiful pics. I also have a Olympus E-500 that works great. I also frequently use a 2009ish Lumix GF1 w/ 14mm pancake lens as a pocketable camera and it still floors me with some of the images it produces (especially in "Dynamic B&W" mode....)

[@labonnemedia]

I miss the CCD sensors. People talk about getting the "film look" and do all sorts of crazy things to get there; seems to me the CCD stuff does it without much effort.

[@Kevon420]

I wish the old CCD Nikon DSLRs were full frame, I'd still be rocking that alongside newer cameras like the D780 or Z8 - I agree that you can get almost any look with good editing skills and proper exposure, but great glass and certain sensors achieve unique things more easily. There's nothing wrong with APS-C or whatever smaller sensor but all the glass being designed for full frame, swapping them between 35mm film and FF digital bodies kinda sucks.

[@photorealismstr]

No problem old ccd digital backs are super affordable at the moment.I shoot a 2008 iq180 and i couldn't be happier

[@DecentGatsby]

The first Canon 5d is def special. With a zeiss glass-fuhgeddaboudit.

[@TheChosenOne_]

@@DecentGatsby the first 5D isnt CCD though

[@DecentGatsby]

@@TheChosenOne_ oh I know, I’m just saying it doesn’t necessarily need to be a CCD sensor to be “film like”. The 5D classic and Fuji xpro1 are perfect examples of that-something about those early sensors are pleasant and definitely lean more towards a film look than modern day sensors. The xpro1 jpegs is very reminiscent of Fuji pro400h. I’ve had a m9 as well, that shoots more like Kodachrome because of how it pops with color. Whichever the case, can go wrong with either ccd camera :) Happy shooting!

[@ThatShaunBoy]

My first "proper" camera was a 5dmk2 (coming from a 550d) and I really look back on it quite fondly. Got it second hand for £300 in 2013/14ish. A absolutely beast to carry around with travelling but the ergonomics were divine and I shot some really nice stuff on it. I probably really started to understand photography with that camera.

[@MrConna6]

One of my favourite digital systems is a 10mp compact ccd, the canon g12. Its a cool camera, has great features like a zoom linked viewfinder, af tracking, loads! It even has a metering button I use a lot shooting film but it adds a fraction of the weight of my dslr to my daily kit

[@cabbelos]

Read through all the comments to see if anybody else was rocking the Nikon D40, but didn't spot any. I bought it new and it's currently sitting at little under 28,000 shots taken. I took it everywhere with me about 2007-2015, until camera phones started catching up for general day-to-day snaps. After the novelty of phone cameras wore off and I wanted more control, I moved straight back to film photography, so I never upgraded to a full frame digital or anything like that. The camera still works as good as new - well actually better, since the meat sack behind the camera has improved. Even though I rarely pick the D40 up nowadays, it still fits me like a glove. After 28,000 photos on one camera, I don't think I'll ever get as comfortable on any other camera in my life. I feel a bit like a carpenter with some really old manky hand tools, you better believe he's good with them.

[@matt_phistopheles]

I remember that my inner mega pixel race ended when I read that the first digital Vogue covers were taken with 12 MP cameras. Suddenly my old 450D was not that bad as I thought and a huge print in my living room tells me to this day that it's true. Around the same time I also realized that I'd need 48MP if I wanted to double the resolution and that is something that we only start to see lately on full frame and APS-C cameras. Today I think that 24MP is a good compromise between quality, disk space and workflow speed.

[@oliverkeys3953]

Yes Kyle, great video! Fantastic images from these older cameras!

[@jamesburne3893]

Amazing to watch you editing. Like the white background in Lightroom. Someone gave me a Kodak Pro14N to start me off and still love a few of those photos from that.

[@acmdv]

6 months ago I picked up a Nikon D800E for £450 in near new condition with less than 5K shutter count. I took it out for a walk last Easter Monday, when it came to editing the RAW files afterwards it was just so easy I don't know what it is about the sensor in the D800/D800E but I have found them very flexible & easy to edit.

[@jdpst20]

When I had a D100 back in 2004 I didn’t know really what I had and it was my first introduction to digital photography. Also back then the capability of photo editing software was nowhere near what it is today. I think I used photoshop elements or eventually photoshop 6.1 eventually. Now I feel like these cameras have e a new life. I got a Canon 5D Original for a trip I went on for work trip where I didn’t want to take any expensive gear. Loved the camera although the mirror eventually failed. I’d love to get back into an older H series Hasselblads but having a x1Dii it’s a bit redundant. I looked at used D100s and a lens and easily able to get one under 100$.

[@c0smoKram3r]

You're a good photographer which helps a shitload but also like Ali's editing on One Month Two Cameras' channel...modern editing, presets and the current in vogue higher exposure but slightly washed out colour look makes the old cameras photos look better (or at least modern). On Instagram many of the folks that are shooting on $20 old point and shoot digicams are doing SOOC and it's basically the new nostalgia we've seen with film previously because it looks like pics taken in the 2000s (mostly crap).

[@matuszewskistudio]

That's completly true, i can't find a reason to upgrade my old 5Ds, more like buy a few of them to have a backups but you really don't need more.

[@pekkatarmio9361]

It seems to be in the air - last days I have been taking photos with my first digital camera, Olympus E-1 from 2003 with its 14-54 2.8-3.5 zoom. Still a high quality set and together with its Kodak CCD sensor gives pleasing results. There is some thruth in the hype of the organic "film like" colour rendition it has. My old OM Zuiko 1.8 works well as a portrait lens with it, too.

[@pekkatarmio9361]

...and I forgot to say that it is a 5 megapixel camera. Files are small and enough big for web use and for nice prints, too.

[@CHoudijk]

I've bought the a7RII last year and I don't have any regrets. It does what I want it to do and saved me some money to spend on other stuff like nice prints. I mostly shoot still standing subjects and arent in a rush. Newer models are probably better if you want fast autofocus and higher fps. Like your said, buy what you need.

[@christopherwelch5568]

Hello Kyle- I am using a Canon EOS T1i with a holga lens made for Canon DSLRs. It produces an image that is double the pixels and triple the file size as my local camera store lab scan which I pay extra for a printable format. Old DSLRs make great images and are dirt cheap.

[@neutrinissimo5118]

I shoot a 16mp EM-5 (mk I / classic) for digital, does everything it needs to. Was thinking of picking a 5D classic up too (to use alongside my analog SLR and it's lenses, as the 5D can take pretty much any mount but has an OVF, which mirrorless doesn't have).

[@somegeezer]

The OVF is tough on the old manual focusing, but the images that come out are fantastic. and there are so many EF lenses for great prices. Funny enough, I've though about picking up an EM-5 a few times. =D

[@sane7798]

I occasionally use my Nikon D200, which was released in 2005, and I find this 20 year old camera can take clean, sharp images with proper lights and techniques. Of course it lacks shadow/highlight recovery range but even that gives me a somewhat slide film-like image haha

[@albinschreiner2782]

Thank you for your interesting topics, your calm manner and your wonderful English, that makes it easy to follow even if you are not from the UK or an English speaking country. 👍 If you do a lot of stiching like me for landscapes the native resolution of the sensor doesn't really count anyway.

[@YOUAREMYKIN]

Such a nice, sobering, overview! Made me want to try the older digital Hasselblads :)

[@just_eirik]

Looking back on older photos is dangerous. Makes me wanna re-purchase some of my old cameras.

[@louishebertraconteurdimages]

When I'm not shooting film, I'm still shooting with my Nikon D700. I simply love the photos I'm getting from it.

[@obomasinladen]

Been shooting with an xt-20, 5dii and lumix sz100 for a while. 1" sensor has been my favorite for a few years now. "old" is relative. These are all 5-15 years old but still relevant technology. People that feel the need to upgrade every generation or two are often technology connoisseurs first and photographers second.

[@BarwickGreen]

My first digital camera took photos on floppy disc, 640 x 480 pixels. That's 0.3 megapixels. It was dreadful. My next had 2MP and wasn't great, I think 5MP is the minimum which I'm still happy with. And the physical size of the sensor matters a lot, old sensors had little dynamic range, 5MP full frame is so different from 5MP 1/2". For example, the photo of houses you upsized, there's no detail on the sunny side of the white houses at all. It's the extra dynamic range I think makes modern sensors so much better rather than the extra pixels.

[@scotskinner4350]

Thanks for making me feel better about my 16 year old Pentax K20D. Perhaps I don't need to upgrade the camera after all.

[@mvw5721]

I still use my Canon 5D Classic regularly, it never bores (no matter the weight) and even bought yet another lens for it this week. Now looking to add an oldie with ccd sensor, which I have fond memories of.

[@mvw5721]

Boom. Scored a Nikon D200, 18k clicks, pristine, for 60 euros :)

[@Bigtbone205]

I have a 5Dmkii in the cupboard. I only ever took about 5k photos on it and it still looks brand new. I took into a camera shop a few years ago they offered me $200 Australian for it....nah, I'll keep it.

[@KyleMcDougall]

Definitely keep it for that price.

[@Irnbruist]

I‘m still rocking the original sony A7 full frame camera, still the smallest and nicest looking sony camera imo and together with voigtländer lenses it still produces stellar images!

[@davidperry4013]

Just like there is still a love for film cameras, there is still a love for cameras with CCD sensors. I wish they start making cameras with CCD sensors again. CMOS has its strengths but, a 12 MP CCD DSLR Camera looks better to my eyes than a 20 MP CMOS camera even an SLR or mirrorless.

[@davealbers252]

the Canon 5D MIII is still amazing

[@passenger874]

Love my fujifilm X-E2 I think it’s 10 years old now? Still great.

[@ClearComplexity]

I compared my GFX gear before I sold it to my Sigma foveon gear, particularly something like my SD Quattro H. Obviously they're a lot different specs wise, but the idea of having to sit down and really process the image before you get the fantastic result was true for both, at least for me. My dream camera at this point is the fp L package +IBIS trimmed down to APS-C in a SD Quattro body also trimmed down for L-mount instead of SA. Make it weather sealed with a tilt screen, and you would have a crop sensor around 25-26mp that produces great results that are easy to work with and would use all the L-mount APS-C lenses Sigma has been releasing for some reason (only other APS-C bodies if you count fp L crop mode are the TL Leicas that are discontinued). As for older bodies, I still use an E-P5 today as a side body to have my wide-angle lens option on along with my main E-M5.iii with a 75mm f1.8 (150mm equiv fov). I also have my titanium E-M5.ii I got for dirt cheap years ago (200 USD for near mint was crazy...to go back to that time) to relive the E-M5.ii now that I use the E-M5.ii, E-M1.iii, G9, etc. I'd argue those 16mp MFT sensor at the end (and now with the GX85 even as a budget body) still hold up strong. I have the fp L I shoot in crop mode most of the time while working to have a compact body/lens combo to get similar reach. Lately I've been using an A7RIV that has the same type of resolution the same way, basically as the crop body Sony should be making if they weren't afraid of their non R bodies tanking in sales. In both cases, I have the flexibility of going back to full FF fov if I need to. The A7RIV is the only body these days I recommend to people that want to be enthusiast or higher into wildlife because you can still use the zooms that are great and get the effective fov/reach of the much more expensive options while still having a ton of resolution to play with at the 25-26mp (or 30, 40, 16, whatever you crop to and still have a great image). Some of my favorite things to do is go to image sample sites and look at old bodies and what people do with them. It's a dangerous rabbit hole, though; I've ended up with a Sony A-mount system after doing that (I have a compatible Minolta collection of lenses, at least...).

[@TheUrbandilema]

Kyle awesome video sir...love your older work big fan of landscape..the 5d classic and the Pentax k100 are awesome cameras and especially the Epson rds 1 ( which is one my dream cameras )

[@KyleMcDougall]

The RDs was so much fun, just too expensive for 6mp!

[@flixbert]

Speaking of old cameras, I‘d really like to see a video about your Hasselblad H3D II 39 and how it fits into your workflow!

[@KyleMcDougall]

I may do a video about it in the future.

[@Eliguitar1]

This is extremely true. My 10-12+ year old 12-30 megapixel full frame nikons still look great today. the only reason I upgraded was to double print sizes up to 50"+. Anything up to 24" across or even 30" 99% of people wouldn't be able to perceive a resolution difference in a physical print. Those older cameras now sell for pennies on the dollar. I was recently licensing out some old D700 images and 12 megapixels was plenty for most applications. Now with 100+ megapixels you can make bigger prints (without losing detail up close) but most users rarely if ever do that.

[@FreakHBB]

I have 60x40 prints from D700 from Sigma art 35mm .They look fantastic

[@That_hasselblad_guy]

The only two cameras I use professionally (mostly because I'm a broke photographer) are a hasselblad h2d with a 22mp back and a nikon d70. Just because a camera is old doesn't mean it's outdated. Everything over 6mp is a waste for posting photos exclusively online. Megapixel really only matter when printing

[@oleyb123]

Loved this video, definitely helpful for folks to see! My original Sony A7R is 36 megapixels, and I've been using it since the day it was released over a decade ago. It's substantially smaller than the second generation, and with the Rokinon/Samyang 35mm f2.8 it's only 50 grams heavier than the Fuji X100VI, just slightly taller and thicker because of the viewfinder bump/lens. The files this thing puts out are insane, and it also works great with the classic lab presets. I recently got a GFX 50s MKII to be able to play with the medium format look, but I still take the A7R with me when I want something light and small to fit in a jacket pocket and I don't feel like I sacrifice image quality in a huge way. My only complaint is that even with a new battery I bought a year ago from Sony, it goes down to 0% rapidly in cold weather.

[@vidgrod695]

People get obsessed with MP and having the most, you really don't need a lot of MP unless you doing like huge prints or cropping a lot. Phones are how most people view content these days and Instagram is 1080 x 1080 which is like 3mp. 16mb is grand for most people.

[@olivierfilhol3655]

Love your images and your edits ! The set of photos taken with the 5D make me think of Peggy's Cove. Am I wrong ?

[@KyleMcDougall]

You got it. :)

[@OrangeBrick8]

Still love my canon 7d.

[@terrywbreedlove]

I am seriously thinking about buying the pockitable Nikon Coolpix A. 16 mp apsc sensor is just fine for Social Media and the small prints I do. The 28mm FF eq prime lens is super sharp. But still a little spendy for an old camera

[@jonathanhotopf1823]

I’ll have to bring out my old 6 Mpixel D70.

[@Asiaddicted]

Owned the RD1 and later a RD1s, one of the most interesting cameras I’ve owned

[@KyleMcDougall]

Agreed. Such a fun one.

[@llchan]

I had the 5d mark2 for 8 years and I regret so much that I sold it. It’s a superb camera. I recently went back to film and I wish I had that camera to digitize my negatives. I ended up buying a 5d mark2 on eBay.

[@thedarkslide]

7:06 Even by today's standards, 8MP is plenty. That's 4K. 4K is still not the norm for most consumers on screens.

[@FreakHBB]

Hey Kyle I purchase this year Hasselblad H3DII_39 and HC 50mm and im very happy .Amazing camera next step is searching 22Mpx Digital Back for testing 9microns images.I shoot near 200 frames for now still testing this beast DR an IQ is amazing :)

[@KyleMcDougall]

I love the files from the 39MP Hasselblad.

[@FreakHBB]

@@KyleMcDougall I love your channel , you present very unique combination with massive knowledge +passion + professional approach :) thanks :)Best regards

[@tbostrowski6136]

agreed. my last "new" camera was and still is a Fuji XT2 and Xpro2. and although I feel the urge to "upgrade" these cameras are still very capable and serve me well. Im old enough to remember when technological advances were made in film and film stock, TMax 3200 was a biggie in its day. Back then you bought a camera like a F3 or OM1 and it could be years before the Nikon or Olympus would introduce a new model. At Ryerson the Pentax K1000 was a bomb proof camera used and abused by legions of students year after year and I betcha that the Pentax's are still solid performers. But still regardless of performance and reliability of older digital platforms, we as photographers are driven to acquire the latest and greatest technologies but until your craft is mastered that will only give you high res ambiguity and mega mediocrity. Having said that, I do want a MF Fuji, I admit that (secretly) :) as always wishing you all the best from Western Canada.

[@bwellington3001]

I feel like most notieacable upgrade fuji can give are: 1) IBIS 2) JPEG Settings that were not available on older models, but this is irrelevant if you prefer RAW.

[@tbostrowski6136]

@@bwellington3001 Ive never had IBIS so in that respect I dont miss it, but if I shot an appreciable amount of video I would definitely want it.

[@MegaNico159]

Very much agree that old cameras still are amazing. I’ve shot photos I love with the X-Pro1 and the Leica M9, and I’ve been blown away by by the flexibility of the files 🥳

[@tomhannigan2234]

Leica M9 is a top camera and not even that old!

[@tomhannigan2234]

Ok the M9 is 15 years old- I take it back 😅

[@MegaNico159]

@@tomhannigan2234 yeah, it’s older than you’d think haha. But all the cameras Kyle showed in the video - maybe except the Epson - were top cameras back in the day. They were great back then and are still great today 👏🏻

[@tomhannigan2234]

@@MegaNico159 For sure

[@sheldonswears1481]

Back in the day I had a billboard that was shot with a Fuji S3 pro. It’s not about the megapixels!

[@jg_jgjg]

I’ve found that 26mp is a sweet spot for me.

[@joseerazevedo]

I've a Nikon D700 and I don't feel any need to move to anything else. It has the biggest pixels ever on a sensor and this makes a difference, specially when enlarging images and printing them big. Also, I feel its images are very close to film, specially when enlarged. Kinda digital with an organic mood :) And it's not overprocessed as today's cameras. Like modern lenses, that killed micro contrast in the name of apparent sharpness. Don't like those. Take a look at one D700 someday, if you can.

[@monkyways1557]

Love my Nokia 6230 and SE K850i

[@MrKlawUK]

Still have an 8x10 on the wall from my old Sony DSC-F505v which was 1999/2000 ish? still looks nice and only 2.5mp

[@CanoeToNewOrleans]

Last year, I bought a Canon 5D II for $300 Canadian. It's built like a tank and takes beautiful pictures. Despite the problems in the world, we're living in a great time for photography because many excellent cameras are available at a low price.

[@KyleMcDougall]

Agreed. The 5DMKII is great.

[@mikafoxx2717]

Same here! 250 Canadian with a lot on the shutter. I just listed the 5D original for sale, but I'm quite tempted to pull it back down.. it's still a solid camera and it's harder to fully resolve even that sensor completely sharp in real world photography than you'd think. My first camera was a Pentax 10mp CCD k200d with manual focus lenses. Was going to pick up a second hand mirrorless, finally, but it's not too replace, moreso to complement and try it out.. I'd rather stick to each system's stock lenses and not adapt. Just stick with the kit 24-70 f4 lens on the z6 which is fantastic, and keep my nice EF lenses on the 5D's..

[@AdamAllen]

I still use a 5D-II for professional work, Just wish it had dual card slots. At this point I'm only buying old digital cameras, except for the Nikon Zf which I bought because it mimics even older cameras, lol

[@kucken64]

The Canon 5D is the Toyota Land Cruiser of cameras.

[@massmike11]

I still love my canon powershot s5is

[@alozor13]

Old digital cameras are the new film cameras. personally, I get more pleasure shooting and processing photos from a 22 year old 4mp Canon 1D than my Panasonic S1r... what i lose in term of resolution, AF, low light capabilities etc... i gain in smaller files that need little post processing, a look and colors that no current modern camera can duplicate, the satisfaction of being much more involved in the picture making process and a body that was build to last decades... and more importantly, less frustration when operating the thing... oh and i forgot: 1/16,0000th mechanical shutter

[@sebastianmueller8989]

I love the colors of the Sony, really great job. Can you please tell me which lenses you used for the Sony? thank you very much 😊

[@KyleMcDougall]

Contax Zeiss lenses adapted to the Sony. 35-70 mostly.

[@sebastianmueller8989]

Thank you, that helps me a lot for my vacation in the USA :)

[@1550592535]

excellent video

[@rickbiessman6084]

That R-D1, man. That camera is just not fair! It shouldn’t be that awesome, but it _is_ 🥲 Saying something positive about an "older" Sony camera doesn’t count though because everyone knows their colors are supposed to be bad! All jokes aside, I didn’t realize some of the photos in An American Mile were actually digital. Maybe someone with a more trained eye could tell, but I certainly never noticed the difference.

[@KyleMcDougall]

Yeah, the Epson was so fun. I still miss it. And the digital Sony files mixed nicely with the film stuff. That being said, I feel like when you're working on a project, regardless of film or digital, images end up looking very similar just due to editing things in one specific way.

[@fiver-hoo]

"Is this camera still good" is one of my least favorite questions I see on the forums. If it took good pictures then, it will take good pictures now.

[@tudorevans9306]

Cannon 5D a truly classic game changing camera. Photo/Vid capable, shallow focus video look at a time when the film and TV media standard camera was the Sony digi beta with a 2/3 inch sensor.

[@KyleMcDougall]

I was a few years into my video production career when the 5DMKII was released. Was shooting on 1/3" Sony Cameras up until then. The 5D was such a game changer. I still remember how excited I was to shoot with it, even as awkward as it was. Went from that to the Sony FS700, which was amazing as well. Good times.

[@andresrojas5222]

When are you going to talk about the Hasselblad!?!?!

[@KyleMcDougall]

Haha, maybe one day!

[@sebastiang7183]

The files being easy to work with may have been due to you using Zeiss glass especially if it was older Zeiss Contax.

[@KyleMcDougall]

I'm sure it helps, but it's not going to make or break the files. These would be fine with Sony lenses as well.

[@RobbyJHope]

I love the idea of a high quality cheap camera so I can worry about getting the shot vs potentially making a $6k mistake.

[@polanialmoni6274]

What are the presets you have used for those images? Look great! Hope they work with the canon r.

[@KyleMcDougall]

The Classic Lab

[@polanialmoni6274]

@@KyleMcDougall have a link?

[@imjasonennis3624]

Man the 1DMKII went hard but good god I hated the charger.

[@mikem5107]

Hey Kyle! Thank you for another interesting video. I have long wanted an Epson RD1, but I can't make myself pull the trigger. I love the idea of a much more manual feeling digital camera and a rangefinder which is pretty uncommon on modern digital cameras. You said you no longer have that camera, so what made you sell it/give it away? Is it worth spending $2000 for a 20 year old sensor for the unique shooting experience? Thanks for your thoughts!

[@KyleMcDougall]

It was one of the most fun cameras I ever used, and I loved the files from it. But, since I mostly shoot landscapes with a MF or LF, it didn't make sense to keep. I couldn't justify it when it was worth that much.

[@Being_Joe]

Older cameras are great. I will say if you shooting RAW a lot of those shots were undereposed and you can get much better results if you up the exposure.

[@ThePhotoDept]

this rules. that 5dmkii will live forever.

[@billybolang7052]

Amen!

[@KyleMcDougall]

Yep, will always be a favourite!

[@freshphong]

Would you mind to share the solution that you using for storing digital archive? I can't decide between cloud or external hard drive.

[@KyleMcDougall]

External RAID 5 drive, with a separate backup drive.

[@freshphong]

@@KyleMcDougall Thank you Kyle!

[@davyboyo]

If it was ever good, then it's still good - just as good as it ever was. If it was shit then it's still shit. Old cameras rule.

[@rodko.horzhynskyi]

I think it will be fair if you use the same software because you said that "it is easy to work with the raw files", but the raw files by themselves and software are from 2024, not from 2004. Please, count that as well. Thank you.

[@dima1353]

By this point, it seems like there is a whole army of KZbinrs praising old cameras. If you think about it, it makes sense. It's very easy to create content around some old thing. But honestly, I don't like it. Over the past couple of years, the authors might have felt that this path had become worn out, but they continue to do it. Moreover, these KZbinrs create exclusively positive content. I haven't seen a video yet of someone saying "this is junk, don't buy this, you'll be constantly fighting against this camera" - but this is what the experience feels like with many cameras over 15 years old. Anyone who has worked with these cameras, who has tried to get the most out of them, knows that they now cost $50-100 for a reason. And I don’t understand why you are talking about the flexibility of old cameras and show a previews ? And besides, not even on full screen, so we see a resize of about 1-1.5 megapixels on our screens. Well yes, it will work that way, but what's the point ? Of course old cameras can make pictures for web and small prints, has anyone argued with this ? But if you try to upload these files to the stock after all the manipulations as is, without downsizing, they will be rejected. Because at 100% it's a mess. I remember back then we were trying to expose with a plus correction, balancing between giving more light to the shadows but not burning out the highlights. We studied these early noise reduction techniques, installed some poorly working plugins, we devoted so much effort to somehow maintaining the quality. And now you tell me “these cameras were flexible.”

[@stevef2114]

better sell that GFX then ;)

[@KyleMcDougall]

On it!

[@stevef2114]

@@KyleMcDougall oh no lol Seems like quite a few have sold and gone back to FF.. maybe because lenses are so expensive.. maybe because they struggle with dof? not sure.... Over the years you have had quite a few cameras... i know there isnt a perfect camera... but is there a reason you cannot settle on a system? Mr Kenna for example.. Hassy and black and white film for years... same for Charlie Waite... or certain street photographers with their leicas. Or you upgrading and going to a 100sII ? lol