This is probably the darkest bourbon/whiskey I've ever had. To be honest, at first, I was kind of put off on the first pour. I was so used to brighter, sweeter profiles I didn't know what to think about it. But after watching a few WhiskeyTubers say that sometimes you have to go back to something you didn't initially like to appreciate it and thats what I did about a week later. Then I went back to it again, and again and shortly it became one of my favorites. However, like you said, its something you want to sit with and maul over. Its not a background drink by any means. I think the biggest thing I like about it is that its unlike 90% of the rest of the bourbon out there. I get bored by the same profiles all the time and it all starts to blend together. This one is a stand out for sure!
@timbuma369311 ай бұрын
This hit total wine stores in MA this weekend, picked one up for retail.
@vernonredmon721111 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for the info. I have customers waiting in it. I can now send them your way for an honest review.
@DanPacifico11 ай бұрын
I agree with your pricing g comments and good to know about the molasses on older OF. If you can get a bottle on this early January release this is the best product you can buy
@JJPP7511 ай бұрын
Love the review. I never write comments but you are making me as this is the perfect review. Give the tasting notes and then the comparison….and instead of saying it reminds me of that…you taste that comparison side by side. Love love love this format. Keep it up!
@timbuma369311 ай бұрын
Excited for this bottle!
@96millyman11 ай бұрын
Liking your videos and perspective! Keep up the great content!
@cdesalme7 ай бұрын
I just picked up 2 bottles of this in PA for msrp. $115. Not an easy bottle to find and all were sold with in hours. Haven’t tried it yet but at the price point and proof point I probably would not buy it again. Specially since I can get the 1897,1910 and 1920 for $50 But I’m really looking forward to trying it. 🥃
@HunterWS1111 ай бұрын
Still in my first year of really getting into the bourbonsphere - OF 1910 and 1920 are likely my favorite bottles of the 20 or so I’ve purchased so far. Hoping to see this on shelves at not an insane price point. Great review!
@brettheiner712525 күн бұрын
Love 1924. It’s baby KoK that took on oak faster than OF wants on its 15&16 year KoK premium barrels.
@thecougarexperience11 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen it yet but by God, I’m buying it!❤
@cartermayfield11 ай бұрын
Helpful and good to know I don’t need to go out and grab on secondary. It sounds similar to some of the past M10B’s that were a little younger than the 23A’s.
@Remman111 ай бұрын
Picked one up from the distillery today. Its tasty.
@b1gsteve25111 ай бұрын
Great review. I’ll buy Old Forester 100 and Early Times BIB. Mix them. Then buy a bottle of Rare Breed and be ecstatic about the great bourbon I just bought. These distilleries are out of control. And none of those Michters are worth over 100 either. Just madness.
@DaveH890511 ай бұрын
I disagree big time on the price. I will never ever buy this at MSRP unless it got to around $80-$85. Also, it seems that the entire point of this being added to the whiskey row series is that this is a shelfer, not another unique bottle. There is absolutely NOTHING interesting about another unicorn bottle that is marked up into oblivion, but even before we get there, supposing it IS on all the shelves for $115, I am passing 100% of the time. I understand that a double digit age statement is rare for Old Forester enough to justify it costing more than all the other 10 year old shelfer bourbons on the market, but $115 is over the top, based on the fact that it is part of the whiskey row series.
@BigBadJerryRogers11 ай бұрын
It's as if they did zero marketing research for this release. If they had asked regular old forester customers how much they would pay for this in a focus group how many would have said as much 115? A small fraction. And of that same group who is going to repeat buy? Definitely less.
@jbbourbon17811 ай бұрын
This is the first time I’ve seen the retail price. Oh heck no! I was hunting but now I’m not. You can find OFBP for $100ish if you look hard enough and it’s such a better bargain. Screw this.
@ThaPABproductions11 ай бұрын
$115 is a lot? Ohh I was good for anything under 300
@DaveH890511 ай бұрын
@@ThaPABproductions you’re out of your mind.
@BigBadJerryRogers11 ай бұрын
@@ThaPABproductions you're the Old Forester customer who buys the birthday bourbon. You're not the average regular buyer of Old Forester.
@javieracosta343911 ай бұрын
Is it odd that the back label says "Bottled By Old Forester"? That could be the tip off that this was not completely distilled at Old Forester but sourced from some other Brown-Forman facility i.e. Early Times as well.
@docscout10 ай бұрын
This is all Early Times. A fire just got back from Louisville and the Old Forster folks said it as much with word play. “It’s bourbon from an early time”
@thenarwhalfernandez132711 ай бұрын
I'm a OF fan so I'm very excited to get into it - wish you had put the 117 extra extra old up next to that instead of the bottle in bond? With those heat cycled warehouses i was really concerned that this would be too astringent and dried out at the finish but you didn't mention any of that so I'm encouraged!
@derekdejean566511 ай бұрын
I'll definitely be on the lookout for a bottle. It will definitely be one that i just pick up at msrp though, so i might end up waiting for a while. I have an E batch Michters 10 and I hate it. Medicinal cherry to the point of tasting like Robitussin. As long as that note isn't there, I'm in.
@b1gsteve25111 ай бұрын
You’re right that it does have that overpowering medicinal cherry palate. It must not bother a lot of people, but I couldn’t even finish a 1oz pour.
@lindern196911 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see the channel growing. Now, we have to bust up the Michter's A barrels. What do you say Cam?
@boswineguy546111 ай бұрын
Good review, hoping to see this compared to some of the black label 100 proof single barrels from OF. Does 4 years of heat cycling get close to a 10 year profile?
@DrumsAndDrams11 ай бұрын
I don’t own any of those unfortunately but maybe have a sample laying around. Good idea for a comparison, maybe on an upcoming stream. I still think the inclusion of the Early Times mash bill (assuming that’s true) is giving this that molasses note that normal OF doesn’t quite get to
@etheridgegray412511 ай бұрын
Hi there! Recently started following and love your setup and style of videos. Would you please share where you got your glasses?
@travisrobeson30611 ай бұрын
Awesome review! Hope to find at some point. Maybe your review will help with that!😅 Cheers!
@Glockwork-rf2lg11 ай бұрын
Liqour store by me had one for $149, its nuts….. would take 2 bottles of 1910 and be happy as a clam with some extra cash in my pocket!
@SamsWhiskeyBar11 ай бұрын
Yes, we saw you cash that OF117. Props. At least I did.
@DrumsAndDrams11 ай бұрын
Still have 1 backup thankfully!!
@SamsWhiskeyBar11 ай бұрын
@@DrumsAndDrams you MOTHER FUCKER! I take back the props! 😜
@michaelhogan786611 ай бұрын
Great review Cam. After expected initial hype, I hope this becomes available as part of the whiskey row line just like 1920 etc. have you seen a MSRP on this?
@MrJhchrist11 ай бұрын
NC ABC lists it at $115, being a control state that's as close to an MSRP as exists, because no M really S's a nationwide RP.
@christopherryan765411 ай бұрын
Already!
@byoregon111 ай бұрын
Thanks Cam. That was super helpful. Really curious how much, if any, will make it to Oregon. King of Kentucky is close to #1 on my list of things I’d like to try and likely will never see. You piqued my interest with your comparison to that.
@mikewilson495211 ай бұрын
With our luck ZERO, at least on initial release. We Will probably be among the last to see it. Like Ben Holiday and Smoke Wagon.
@byoregon111 ай бұрын
@@mikewilson4952 yep. Still waiting on a Knob 18 to show up.
@irewlwatts544311 ай бұрын
I grabbed 2. I'm in NC. It's good but behind 1920 maybe even with 1910...maybe.
@irewlwatts544311 ай бұрын
I do VERY MUCH agree that it is a bit of an entry level to BDB and KoK. That's was spot on man.
@silverpunk242711 ай бұрын
It's crazy how these big distilleries are suddenly setting msrp over $100 for everything they market as "special". This isn't a $115 bottle in my opinion. $79.99 is what I would expect. This is why I'm gaining more interest in these craft distilleries.
@LeatherDaddy9711 ай бұрын
Theres way too many awesome well priced craft whiskeys for this
@moguy197311 ай бұрын
OF1897 BiB is at least 4 years old, same proof. $50. So you think a whiskey that is 2 1/2 times as old (at least) and the same proof isn't worth twice as much?
@silverpunk242711 ай бұрын
@@moguy1973 yep that's what I'm saying
@LeatherDaddy9711 ай бұрын
@@moguy1973 why would it be? the main issue is their price compared to others on the market. 1897 has already established itself as a well made bourbon and people already debate that one vs signature. If its over 100 it needs to be some of the best whiskey on the market, period, end of story. These dont cost much to make. In 2016 a bottle of elijah craig 18 was $45
@heatherharrison26411 ай бұрын
At least initially, this will be yet another release that gets hyped up and can't be found. I refuse to pay top dollar at a museum or wait in a tater line for any bottle of booze. Hopefully, they have enough stocks that the supply will eventually meet the demand, and this will become readily available like the rest of the Whiskey Row series. Even if it becomes available, the price is high for a 10-year product, so it would have to be something special to justify the cost.
@johncellona81339 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't include Old Forester 1897 BIB instead of the 1910.
@DrumsAndDrams9 ай бұрын
I don’t own a bottle unfortunately
@TheBloody8111 ай бұрын
Great honest review! I was excited until I heard what the price point was and supposedly a regular shelf grab, too much money. I'll be waiting for a while and see how it turns out. Cheers!
@mikesnook621011 ай бұрын
It’s interesting that the other row bottles are readily available and this is released as a limited bottling at double the price. Maybe an annual release? Guess time will tell. Grabbed one in NC… retail was $115
@b1gsteve25111 ай бұрын
Whiskey distilleries are just trying to cash in on all the crazy price increases with whatever matured barrels are ready to bottle immediately. This is fun to watch them all scramble with all these goofy versions and historical stories brought back to fit them.
@blakeanderson121411 ай бұрын
Where in NC?
@mikesnook621011 ай бұрын
@@blakeanderson1214 multiple locations. Wake county, Harnett and Johnston County!
@christopherscuron252311 ай бұрын
Grabbed two in Williamston last night@@blakeanderson1214
@frankcampisi603111 ай бұрын
Did you buy that in a liquor store? I didn’t realize it is already out.
@JohnConnor1210 ай бұрын
I picked up a bottle in Michigan for msrp. I have no regrets, but i probably wont buy another bottle at that price point.
@POPPAsmurf-ic9vk11 ай бұрын
I seen it for 124 and some change after taxes. Store did a raffle because he only had a couple cases
@whatsthepoint17011 ай бұрын
$10 per year, pretty standard pricing IMO, nothing to be upset about. Sounds like whiskey is worth it, just no tatering on secondary. Message received
@DaveH890511 ай бұрын
But it isn’t $10 per year….. Also that $10 per year is a pretty terrible rule of thumb. Russell’s 10 becomes $100. Knob Creek Small Batch becomes $90, ECBP becomes $120+. Fricking Dickel Bottled in Bond becomes $130. The standard Makers Mark becomes 60 dollars. Etc etc. do you really want that? lol. Whiskey pricing is way more complicated than $10 per year, the few times that rule actually applies.
@whatsthepoint17011 ай бұрын
@@DaveH8905 $100 MSRP/10 years…checking math…$10/year. I’m not claiming that all bourbons are priced at that level. Some are better value for sure, others are lower. I would not put Russell’s 10 in that bucket, it’s a 90 proofer. And ECBP and KC9 have been the best value in bourbon for years. Those are outliers, not the rule, in my view. It seems that a lot of “specialty” or allocated bourbons are priced that way though, not shelf bottles. KC18, Hardin’s Creek line, Rebel 10 even most Pappy and BTAC are SRPd at that range. What I’m trying to say is I, personally, am cool paying $10/year on limited bottles. Anything over that, and I’m hesitant. Case and point all that sourced Four Gate, Old Carter stuff. $200 for an 8 year product in most cases. Hard pass. I realize everyone’s budget is different, it’s just my comfort zone.
@DaveH890511 ай бұрын
@@whatsthepoint170 the MSRP is $115.
@DaveH890511 ай бұрын
@@whatsthepoint170 the entire point I was making in my own post on this video, is that this is not supposed to be an allocated/limited bottle. It’s part of the whiskey row series. That means it’s supposed to be a shelfer. If this is just another allocated limited release like Birthday, then Old Forester massively failed by putting this in the whiskey row series. The whiskey row series designation means this is to be a regularly available shelf bottle, along with the rest of them. That means that the $115 MSRP is way out of line, both by competitive standards of other things on the market, and by Old Forester’s own pricing for the rest of that series, and also by the $10/year notion. It’s a triple fail.
@whatsthepoint17011 ай бұрын
@@DaveH8905there’s seems to be some disagreement on that. I’ve seen both listed. Even at $115 it’s $11. Not terrible
@anthonyvella278711 ай бұрын
Is this just coopers craft 100, aged 10 years ?????
@jw-lk1pe2 ай бұрын
why is 9 year Knob Creek so cheap! The OF 1924 is only one year older but roughly 5 times the price?
@AnthonyFarrer_TPG11 ай бұрын
What kind of whiskey glass is that? Doesn’t look like a Glencairn.
@Sockerslacker11 ай бұрын
It's a Stolzle Lausitz 6.5oz Whisky Nosing Glass. They are great!
@ThaPABproductions11 ай бұрын
Milk :)
@davidjohnson893011 ай бұрын
Mich 10 is totally brown forman!!!
@ericpevey263611 ай бұрын
i've already seen reviews/videos of blinds and Knob Creek 12 destroyed OF 1924 and Knob 12 is slightly more than half the MSRP of OF12. At $115 for the OF1924 that's going to be a hard pass for me and i'm a huge fan of OF and their whiskey row offerings.
@877-MASH-NOW11 ай бұрын
WHISKEY CHEERS 😎
@Bourbon_Blue_Devil11 ай бұрын
People have said it's a blend of 1910 & 1920
@MiyagiNariyoshi11 ай бұрын
That would be a 1915, and I've made a few of those myself. 😅
@Bourbon_Blue_Devil11 ай бұрын
@@MiyagiNariyoshi yeah I think you're correct. Thanks.
@robertharper215811 ай бұрын
I will Tater out and buy it.
@dlindy914311 ай бұрын
Eagle rare in Maryland is $36 and russels 10 is $40.... This price is absurd
@dewalt559911 ай бұрын
1920 being higher proof doesn't mean if should beat 1924. If they charging double it should be an elevated experience no matter the proof
@FNGWhiskey11 ай бұрын
My local LQ has it at $170, would you pay that?
@codyburgess703411 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing liquor stores will absolutely charge $300 for this if not more
@ThaPABproductions11 ай бұрын
I’d pay $1000 fuck it. It’s just money
@grapesodapopinski57111 ай бұрын
OF really needs to rebuild their whiskey row line. 1910 and 1920 are classics. The rest are meh. I do appreciate the availability though.
@drewmp059 ай бұрын
I'd disagree with that. I love the 1910 and 1920 is good, but the 1897 BiB is my favorite.
@LeatherDaddy9711 ай бұрын
The msrp is way too high imo. If it was 80 id try it. $115 is 3 bottles of russells 10 or eagle rare for 5 proof points more and a different distillery. Its 2 1920s or a 1920 and a 1910. A bit disappointed.
@llamabones11 ай бұрын
10 year age statement is only a big deal because OF was lagging to begin with. Good business for them, but 10 year bourbon doesn't get $115 from most distillers...
@jeremybamgbade11 ай бұрын
Especially when it's only 100 proof. Pass for me !
@ThaPABproductions11 ай бұрын
@@jeremybamgbadejust make more money
@joshaustin741911 ай бұрын
I was 1 second away from buying this at msrp.. I put her back as I pulled my wallet out.. Got me a EC toasted instead
@Tyler078911 ай бұрын
This feels like an $80-100 bourbon at best
@IvanT-v5b11 ай бұрын
So…. Maker’s Mark adds a new bourbon with an age statement and price goes up. A year ago Jack Daniel’s adds an age statement with their JD10 and JD 12 and the price goes up. Michter’s charges significantly more for their bourbons with an age statement vs non age stated bourbons. On the flip side, Heaven Hill recently reduced the retail price of its Old Fitzgerald 10 year significantly from the prior release which was 19 years old. We pay for age and should be used to this, why such a visceral response with Old Forester charging more for an age stated bourbon? Is it just edgy to hate new products that cost more?
@MichaelC_2211 ай бұрын
If there is a visceral response, then I don't think it's as much about charging more for the higher age (which most people have no issue with), but how MUCH more. Before pricing news comes out, people have a ballpark number in their head. In this case, my guess would be most were expecting something around $80. When people started hearing an MSRP if $115, I think that's where the backlash eminated from. Add to that the fact that you can find RR10 for $35, KC12 for $75, ER10 (when you find it) for $40, and McKenna 10 (when you can find it) for $60.
@LeatherDaddy9711 ай бұрын
Because its not a price thats in line with most of what you mentioned, and the ones that werent in line i wouldnt buy either.
@MrPlebeia11 ай бұрын
My conspiracy is that juice is the rejected 2022 Mitchers 10yr bourbon that didn't meet their standards. Upped the proof and launched this label. Just my opinion.
@umami024711 ай бұрын
I’ll buy one but this price point doesn’t make sense. If it was 10 a year then 100 maximum. The 1920 which is my favorite is 61 and fantastic for the price. Very disappointed with this price from Old Forester. Seems like these distillers have started a trend to overprice their juice and will hurt the industry.
@drewmp059 ай бұрын
Kinda mad every youtube bourbon reviewer has a bottle of this and I cant find one any where. Read somewhere that OF has stated this is going to be a limited annual release, so doesnt make sense to have it be part of their whiskey row series. Also disappointing because it means it will probably always be hard to get and overpriced.
@nickmerkerson540110 ай бұрын
1924 is a pass for me. Better OF offering for less money.
@blakeanderson121411 ай бұрын
60.00 deal. These overpriced greedy bottles are killing me. Waiting for the industry to die again. Then they will remember their real customers.
@ThaPABproductions11 ай бұрын
115 ain’t shit man. If you sweating that start putting out resumes
@LeatherDaddy9711 ай бұрын
@@ThaPABproductions imagine seeing a company take advantage of people for profit and blaming the people who are against it.
@jasonseiter332311 ай бұрын
Wow..... a whole video for millennials and fruitcakes. Just take a drink kid! Some age will do you well. Just like bourbon