Old German "Kämper" 60kva 415V Diesel Generator Project? instead of the MB V6 that has water in it.

[@aaronsaura6746]

this would make a epic video series to watch, if I was in the land down under with my truck I would help you out mate.

[@memadmax69]

You can't go wrong with old german generators or any old generator for that matter as long as she is in good working order. I would most definately grab it and if no transport was available at the time, have the scrappers put a "sold" sign on it to come back later.

[@Aussie50]

I think one of the phases in the rotor is roasted, but I will bring it home anyway, $200 is a steal. and they are happy to sit on it for a while, that MB engine has been there for months with my name on it, years prior to that LOL.

[@WJCTechyman]

This would be like the older videos you have done, Ed! It would be awesome to see a vid series on restoring that beastie for sure. Good luck from Canada!

[@RODALCO2007]

Bosh, good quality. Glad you got that generator now at your place.

[@ErikMinecraft]

It would be an awsome restauration. Didn´t recon the brand, but a quick search, reveals its called Kämper. It seems that the engine is started with a small gasoline carb and then you can switch it to diesel.

[@Aussie50]

Interesting, this one has direct air inlet and glowplugs, no sign of gasoline carb, must have been an old design since these were used on dozers and other earthmoving machines

[@ErikMinecraft]

Maybe there where talking about an older model, but the last engines (at least in Germany) where made in 1955 as far as i found it on some forums and wiki . And I found some other Pictures, one with a flyer from probaly 1956? It shows 2 engines, one a 6 cyl and a smaller 4 cyl, with the base, and rad that looks similar to that one you found. But I am really not familliar with this brand, even though I am a german that likes old engines :D

[@douro20]

From what I understand, Kaemper engines were used primarily in construction equipment and small locomotives. They were once part of the DEMAG group and existed from 1901 to 1955. From the configuration of the injectors I am quite certain this uses small removable prechambers known as energy cells, which were not widely used except in older non-turbo Case/David Brown diesels like the 401 inline-6.

[@Aussie50]

Interesting!, thank-you very much, I found nothing on it. Interesting about the engine, I was wondering what was going on in the heads since it has the glowplugs and injectors in an odd place.

[@iwtommo]

Bring some batteries to the yard and check the compression first?

[@Aussie50]

oh for sure, they have loads of good batteries there, I will turn it over first and if it sounds even its a keeper.

[@bluenoir]

As a german, I'd love to see that project. :) And btw, it's "Kämper"

[@Aussie50]

Thanks mate!, I cannot find much info on those, i will search it with the proper spelling and I might get proper results as opposed to "Kamper"" :D

[@bluenoir]

You're welcome! Hope it helps :D

[@MrBugsier5]

Aint this a Merc diesel? (is dass nicht eine mercedes diesel?)

[@SmallEngineMechanic]

Wow that is nice! Would be there with my trailer to help you after work if I wasn't on the other side of the world! Can't go wrong with a generator project!

[@Aussie50]

haha yeh I love your restorations, wish you were hear to help, its a nice manageable size for me start with, a friend offered me a ex-RAN ship genset a while back, the engine was a big pommie made V12 twin turbo, far too heavy for me, probably 6 tonns.

[@maketheworldabetterplaceki4028]

Poor old EB falcon there. Hopefully you can get the gen home Ed.

[@PoLoMoTo2]

This would be absolutely fantastic to watch

[@truebassB]

Yey! This reminds me of the stuff you were into some years ago. Good old times nah? I still remember the Lanos videos,you're the reason i have one,lol.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

These Kämper mid 1930s pre war Diesels (System Lanova?) were used in post war Germany as optional upgrade for thirsty US American V8 gasoline powered trucks and vehicles when sold by the US Army to private german trucking companies, factories and farmers as surplus (Please dont scrap anything, even not the leaky brass radiator its a pre war wehrmacht truck radiator) : www.ebay.de/itm/Prospekt-Kaemper-80-PS-Diesel-Motor-fuer-Ford-BB-und-V8-LKW-ca-1951-2-Seiten-/301920140079

[@Aussie50]

wow, very interesting to know!, thank-you!

[@Aussie50]

the radiator has brass tanks but the core fins are actually steel, I imagine the tubes are brass or copper tho.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Yes these are HQ hand crafted radiators for tropical use (Fine vertical and horizontal net core) ! Never scrap such a superb german made army radiator! (and just watch the cast aluminium radiator fan, this deserves to be polished, very similar fans were used in Maybach engines!) You wont find something similar HQ in todays cheaply made generators, there are very good radiator shops maybe a retired welder / solderer could also repair this for much less money compared to regular workshop, this wonderfull and very rare gen set deserves a good restauration, here in entire germany I have not seen a similar KÄMPER / SIEMENS / AEG genset since many many years (20?)...those are collector items, Kämper is very rare even in germany because there were much more Mercedes or M.A.N. powered gen sets during WW2 and early post war time. P.S. if you need new ceramic "screw in" type fuse holders you can find them here on ebay germany they are cheap and even the voltage- and ampmeter instruments can be found here...please also dont scrap the instrument panel! That entire "thing" looks very much like a backup gen set from an old 1940(?) vessel built in Germany...I just cant explain how this heavy monster otherwise would have found its way to the USA? If its 230V 415V @ 50 HZ its typical European power generator set otherwise it would have been 114 /230 60HZ or something like that ...maybe a GI from the US Army brought this over to the States after leaving Germany? Have you ever asked the scrapyard owner who was the previous owner of this machine? Maybe he can tell you more about the history? I am very curious...sadly I dont live in the States ;-) ,I would love to come over helping you fixing this wonderfull piece of german technology heritage to like new condition...this is definetly not a bulky piece of old rusty scrap metal, you can easily learn this by listening to the specific german BOSCH sound of the starter motor and engine when it wakes up, this heavy Beast says "GUTEN TAG" ;-))) " or something like that not "Konichiwa" like the Japanese or Chinese toy starters :-)))

[@Aussie50]

Interesting, I am not in the US tho :P. I am in Australia. I wonder how it got here!. the rad will definitely be repaired tho, I aint buying a new one :P.. I did a lot of research on google focused on German results and found a lot of old adverts, and stuff, its definitely a pre-war design engine!. . the raditor does not look like a truck rad since the top tank is flat, not sloping away from the filler cap.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Oh I see, okay that makes sense, that explains the gensets specs: the machine is 230V / 415V 50 HZ : in Australia the electricity is like in Europe English/German/French 50HZ 220v-380v in private homes and 230v /400v in industrial systems, well this machine surely came with a vessel to australia, the generator is a wartime Siemens type according to the looks but it has been rebuilt during the 1960s by a 3rd party repairshop (Not a Siemens service shop) so they replaced the Siemens logo with their own unbranded plate. Kämper used to be a well known vessel engine and generator manufacturer for smaller ships, Yachts and trawlers here in 1930s and 40s Germany. Engines up to 6 cyl 120 HP (Fish trawlers and harbour barges) and they made 60 KVA generator sets for the Wehrmacht. I only found a picture of a trailer mounted unit with 6 cyl 90HP Diesel. www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Hauptseite_deutsch/Anhanger/2-achsige_Anhanger/Maschinensatz_220-380_V_60_kVA/maschinensatz_220-380_v_60_kva.html

[@TheFurriestOne]

Whoa, that's a decent-sized beast! So there's no hope of repairing the mangled trailer? If it just needs axles it wouldn't hurt to ask around for a pair of those in addition to searching for a trailer. Then again, might be hard to repair on-site at the scrapyard, that's an issue. Well, I hope you can find what you need to get it, it looks like an awesome bit of kit to have fun with!

[@Aussie50]

the trailer is a mess, no draw bar either, its a converted boat trailer so I am thinking I will just buy one of the old ones they have there and do the same. turns out its the same trailer it was originally mounted on to start with, they just used the grab to pick it up by the wheels and bent everything

[@TheFurriestOne]

Ah, sounds like a plan!

[@jonnoMoto]

That'd be a great unit to have. Get her running!

[@BillyNoMates1974]

good video. i hope you get help with that. would love to see what you get up to. when are you doing another rambletron vid ?

[@deadguy237]

That would be a fun project. I wish I was closer.

[@NiHaoMike64]

Would it be possible to take it apart and bring it home in several pieces?

[@240Volts]

That would be an awesome project. What about something that is more usable that can be used in outages?

[@Aussie50]

I already have a 20A and a 16A air cooled diesel sets, this one is more for HV experiments etc

[@darkwaterblue]

Now thats a genny. Get it bought.

[@peterstalin7463]

Hey, this an air cell dieselengine, or so called lanova dieselengine. These are very smooth running

[@Aussie50]

Interesting, I have found zero info on this engine or genset online, I look forward to getting it home and working on it

[@peterstalin7463]

@@Aussie50 you should :) this engine probably from the early 50s. The lanovo injection type was very popular in this Periode. The side-mounted injectors are a dead give away for lanova style diesel engines.

[@HDXFH]

So much goodies

[@Matze941]

Please save this thing, it would be awsome to see it running again!

[@AdrianHiggins83]

Hope u get to restore it

[@smallenginedude71]

thats an awesome project!

[@twocvbloke]

That genset would actually be a better project than the merc diesel (even though I'd have loved to have seen that merc engine running!), cos you've pretty much got a whole package of usefulness there... :)

[@Aussie50]

Yeh somebody asked about the MB engine that day so I figured it was good timing, but if they do not take the MB engine there is the option I can get both :D

[@twocvbloke]

Getting both would certainly keep you entertained for a while... :D

[@markhodgson3045]

What about a old land rover chassis

[@Liam-ir6xm]

Would be pretty mint if you do end up getting it, Keen as to see a few vids on it :p

[@InfiniteWonderz2]

i agree!

[@gerhard4711]

That would be awsome!

[@AmericanLocomotive1]

I'd bar the engine over to check the state of that shaft

[@ziggassedup]

The guy on the big picky machine must have been pretty gentle...

[@Aussie50]

yeh he was going to snap it in half for the alternator that afternoon!, I will get them to chain it out and sling them some extra $$ to put it on their tandem trailer so i can get it home.

[@chewbaccasaurusrex692]

Would be great if you got a hold of it honestly

[@event-zero]

where is the puppy ?

[@NerdyFello]

this would be awesome

[@wickedxe]

Fuck YEAH! that thing is cool as frigg.

[@1Dougloid]

That's $142 yanqui. What a steal. Not a lot of info on these.

[@aferronavida]

Go for it...

[@Bias_Prineus]

you mean cheap or expensive ?

[@MXSLICK]

don't these old electric generators and stuff commonly use PCB cooling oils and such? could probably be a pretty big health risk.

[@redneckbryon]

That is cool, call Brad, lol Good Luck

[@Alphamutts]

Too bad they mashed that 2 axle trailer, it would have worked well for this

[@Aussie50]

its actually what it came off, but the more I looked at it it was never going to tow home anyway, no draw bar on it. I will cut and rennovate another boat trailer and do the same after saving those timbers from the crushed one

[@Alphamutts]

@@Aussie50 that will work well

[@HotForgeChaos]

Damn it I'd love to get my dirty dick beaters on something like this. 60KVa is a bit of a beast for a physically small genset. You could also potentially rent the thing out once restored and certified

[@wilbertbirdner1303]

that diesel injection pump is probably worth more than $200 on its own

[@Aussie50]

oh yeh for sure, I think the alternator has a burned phase, but even for $200, its worth a go, parts or a good running engine if nothing else.

[@boelwerkr]

the badge said: "selfcontrolled 3phase generator" Type: DNBB114 Nr:25515 Year:1961 60 KVA. 145835 Ampere with 35°C maximal environment temperature. for each grad higher environment temperature 1.7% loss in power allowed temperature for insulation class A = 60 (?°C?) stator allowed temperature for insulation class A = 60 (?°C?) rotor 240 / 415 V between the phases cos phi 0.8 240 V to ground 50 circles/second 1500 r.p.min excitation 74-61 V 6,7-6,3 A

[@griffinmackenzie]

Destroy more washing machines lol

[@Aussie50]

I am waiting for a big industrial one to show up :D. gotta go bigger and better :D

[@fredlllll]

well you really need a new project if you dont want to finish the old ones :P

[@tritonmole]

3:18 the dislike comes fromk the cmos aliasing on your camera

[@brainndamage]

It's pronounced "Kemper"