I have the 150 machine for 4 injectors. I have ID 2000cc and i notice same thing with the pressure drop. I was told my ID to Backflow them with gasoline and ultrasonic clean them.. I also add some seafoam in the mix.. Seems to work very well!! In the future i may rig an external reservoir and a higher volume pump and a filter to help with the big injectors.. I have had sticking issues with my injectors before, had to send them off to have cleaned... for $300 this machine works pretty good! Gives you something to measure off of as a relative number to each injector! I also learned to NOT use carb cleaner on injectors, it make one of mine lock the poppet up. Had to blow air back thru the injector to break it loose.. brake cleaner is ok tho. There's my 2 cents!! Love the video!!
@2slofouru4 жыл бұрын
I also have the 150, definitely doesn't hang with large injectors. I can see it being useful if I need to clean them in the future from using e85. I plan on running normal gasoline most of the time so may not need to though.
@mikey13b Жыл бұрын
@Alex I've got the same injectors as you, and when i try to backflush them it blows the big o-ring down out of the adapter every time as soon as i start it and fluid sprays everywhere. This didnt happen to you?
@alfordz123 Жыл бұрын
@@mikey13b I put extra oring that I dug out of my assortment box.. put it up in the cup on my flow bench. Never had any issues
@alfordz123 Жыл бұрын
@@mikey13b Or try double or triple up the o rings on the button side of injector to back flow
@AmericanTradesmen5 жыл бұрын
Man I'm so glad @stephencox introduced your channel...enjoying your content!
@AntonioClaudioMichael5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a huge difference between new and amused dirty injectors great video bro nice you can also clean the injectors
@davidkopeschka62624 жыл бұрын
Using a scope, I measured the following injector parameters, on the CT150 system. Mode 2 (Idle) -- PW = 3.1 ms, Freq = 12.5 hz (750 rpm), D/C = 3.9% Mode 3 (Medium speed) -- PW = 3.1 ms, Freq = 74.5 hz (4470 rpm), D/C = 23.1% Mode 4 (High Speed) -- PW = 3.1 ms, Freq = 125 hz, (7500 rpm), D/C = 38.8%
@muiriey3 жыл бұрын
David - how do you determine what PW to run at, when would you adjust this?
@muiriey3 жыл бұрын
Are those rpm numbers supposed to be double to relate to a 4-Stroke!
@tomharrison67623 жыл бұрын
Impossible to measure fuel Injector spray patterns, fuel droplet size and/or % volume on a labscope I don't care how good you are.
@ivaylosyovchev3 жыл бұрын
The machine doesnt have static flow test , how would u test a unknown set of injectors.... to determine the flow
@davidkopeschka62624 жыл бұрын
I just got the 4 injector version, CT150. Interesting there is no traditional fuel pressure regulator with the system. The fuel pump is plumbed right to the fuel rail. I've taken it apart to see how it works. The computer modulates the current going to the fuel pump to set a fuel pressure. Default is 50% duty cycle. The "+" and "-" keys are used to increase or decrease the fuel pressure, while it is running, by essentially increasing or decreasing the fuel pump speed. Running (4) 80lb siemens injectors, at the high speed setting (3.1 ms, 7500 rpm) it can almost maintain 45 psi. I need to add a fluid filled pressure gauge to dampen the oscillations. FYI, there are 2 injector drivers that are out of phase with each other, like bank1 and bank2 injector drives. So at any given time, 2 injectors fire at the same time. This helps minimize fuel rail pressure oscillations, but not as good if it were fully sequential.
@aftersale93373 жыл бұрын
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@ziggassedup5 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine has a mobile injector service and said his primary clients were race guys running E85...We used to run the methanol sprint car engine empty then run a 1/2 gallon of strait pump gas thru it leaving just enough to keep the lines wet.
@diygaragetx5 жыл бұрын
I'm mildly skeptical how about how much difference it's going to make cleaning the injectors, but it had to be done i suppose. I'll know more tomorrow!
@ChaotiX14 жыл бұрын
Yes, the thinner leaner cleaner fuel will clog injectors. Genius. Maybe on non-flex vehicles made before the 90's, but not today.
@tomharrison67623 жыл бұрын
Why?
@joshuafarwell97616 ай бұрын
Somebody with a working brain on the internet finally
@2slofouru4 жыл бұрын
I have the 4 injector version of that, the 150. While it may be useful for cleaning injectors, it definitely won't hang with larger ones for testing. My 2000cc injectors were dropping pressure way too low.
@civichbc4 жыл бұрын
2slofouru I changed the fuel pump out on mine for larger injectors
@Adoogie32 жыл бұрын
@@civichbc what pump did you use?
@civichbc2 жыл бұрын
@@Adoogie3 I used an old Honda walbro I had laying around
@Adoogie32 жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering if I should buy a ct160 or a ct200. if one has a bigger pump than the other. I have a v8 twin turbo car around 2000 rwhp . Has the Holley 220lb injectors. Like to buy one of these to check em regularly. A healthy injector is important.
@diygaragetx2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd get the 4 injector model. With 4 of my 220's, the pump can't keep up.
@AntonioClaudioMichael5 жыл бұрын
Good video brother
@camlobesvtec6 ай бұрын
What issues were you having on the dyno with the clogged injectors? For me it's spitting around 3k rpms.
@brentsmith5647 Жыл бұрын
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@ericrelation57452 жыл бұрын
I used a compact electric scribe to number the injectors
@stoneyvill2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to buy one of these machines which is best CT150 CT160 OR CT200?
@geraldcharles16243 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thanks
@bernhardlist93594 жыл бұрын
Just to see how precise the machine is it would be interesting to move the inner injectors to to outer position and vice versa or even more interesting to take all the 90 injectors and run them together and see if they still produce the same result. Very intesting, if the machine produces consistent results I would get one too. Oh one more question: why does the pressure gauge not show any pressure? Greetings Bernhard
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
I have done just that, and moved injectors around. Very similar results. I thought I mentioned it, but the big injectors drink the pump dry, it just cant keep up
@bernhardlist93594 жыл бұрын
diy_garage_tx Thanks, I am interested in that machine because I am restoring and converting a Jaguar V12 engine to Fuel injection and want 12 injectore as previse as possible and I want to see if those deviate from the manufacturers data (I am not sure if manufacturing data are average production numbers). So if your tester is very precise I can enter the deviation into the ECU controller software and get much better data before hitting the Dyno for finetuning. Greetings Bernhard
@bernhardlist93594 жыл бұрын
Btw., my injectors are rather small 180cc/min for a 5.3Liter 12Cylinder engine. At least that is what I came up with calculating flow requirements. Where would you need a 1000cc/min injector?
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
@@bernhardlist9359 mine are actually 2200. You need big injectors for 1500hp or so, especially on E85
@bernhardlist93594 жыл бұрын
diy_garage_tx Ok, makes sense, mine is just around 300HP (Classic Jaguar E-Type) and I have to pay attention to get a good idle speed too. If I get big injectors the opening time will slide into the unstable range (overlap of electric OFF but mechanical opening not yet completed) Greetings Bernhard
@kevinoverholtzer31264 жыл бұрын
I cleaned my injectors with a rubber tube duct tape and a can of carb cleaner. 5 out of 6 worked fine and saw nothing come out of them and the color of the cleaner was clear so I doubt I did any good for them and one was beyond cleaning could not get it to click or anything just have to buy one new injector. maybe one of these machines would have fixed that one injector but 35$ for a new one
@rickolson90115 жыл бұрын
Very informative!
@Queensraces2 жыл бұрын
So is e85 worth it?, winter days lines gttn eaten away at but u get pwr and alil more safety in return
@nila-ex5rp3 жыл бұрын
Very good video ..!!!
@michaelsilva2310 Жыл бұрын
Which fluid are you using for flow test? Berryman b12 or mineral spirits?
@camlobesvtec3 жыл бұрын
So what issues were you having while driving with the dirty injectors? Were you experiencing anything like boost cut or fuel cut at high rpms? Did you use an inline fuel filter before the fuel rail? Good video.
@diygaragetx3 жыл бұрын
The main problem was that when I added fuel, nothing happened. Once I cleaned the injectors, it went pig rich.
@williamalcala56602 жыл бұрын
My car is been sitting on E85 for 10 months what should I do before sitting my new motor ?
@Villa1254 жыл бұрын
How do you like it good quality? Wanna buy one
@aftersale93373 жыл бұрын
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@maximusvonce13814 жыл бұрын
Use Techron Marine and you wont have any more injector problems on e85
@s550andrew2 жыл бұрын
What does it do?
@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS3 жыл бұрын
Do you lay the injectors down when cleaning them in the ultrasonic cleaner? It's got the tray so you can stick them in there vertical... But if laying them down works better I'd rather do it that way.
@diygaragetx3 жыл бұрын
I do lay them down so they are easily submerged completely
@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS3 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx yep... I'm trying them that way on my last 2. Unfortunately as great as the tool is, it doesn't come with everything needed to do 4 of my 8 injectors at a time... Only 2. So I'm just doing each set per cylinder.
@AntonioClaudioMichael5 жыл бұрын
That's a great machine to have around
@aftersale93373 жыл бұрын
Fanastic!
@mikey13b Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, did you have any issues back flushing on the machine with these injectors? I've got the same injectors as you and the CT-150, and when i try to backflush them it blows the big o-ring down out of the adapter every time as soon as I start it and fluid sprays everywhere. Did this ever happen to you?
@diygaragetx Жыл бұрын
Nope, can't say I've had that problem
@InClaymont3 жыл бұрын
you didn't flush the injectors with petrol before storing them?
@uPek450HL4 жыл бұрын
Max Gdi 400 high pressure injection test bench up to 400 bar, youtube Space Test 5005
@Turboboob4 жыл бұрын
Does that machine do low and high impedance injectors?
@aftersale93373 жыл бұрын
Please search our product AUTOOL CT200 on AMAZON and tell the sales your problem, Or send email to aftersale@autooltech.com, thanks for your attention.
@InClaymont3 жыл бұрын
What fuel pump is it running down to no pressure?
@seanflynn49013 жыл бұрын
Did you modify the machine at all to work with such large injectors? Some folks have suggested the pump is a little weak for large injectors...
@diygaragetx3 жыл бұрын
No,.I haven't- and it is way too weak for vug injectors
@seanflynn49013 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx Is it possible to do a couple at a time with success? I have 3 1000cc and 6 2000cc, but wouldnt mind doing pairs to get them done on a cost effective machine.
@diygaragetx3 жыл бұрын
@@seanflynn4901 the low volume of the pump isn't the real problem. The vials won't hold near what my 220's can do on any of the tests, much less at full pressure. I simply run the "high speed" test which is only 1500 cycles at 3ms, I believe
@schmitty_luv3 жыл бұрын
Do you know what #12 “no disassembly cleaning is for?
@aftersale93373 жыл бұрын
Please search our product AUTOOL CT200 on AMAZON and tell the sales your problem, Or send email to aftersale@autooltech.com, thanks for your attention.
@czorr19974 жыл бұрын
What fluid is used in the machine to flow test? thanks for the information and video. Special order?
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
I just used plain mineral spirits. They have a special fluid thats supposed to not foam (mineral spirits barely does), but its simply not worth it. The cleaning part is done with purple power and water (walmart). No special order.
@czorr19974 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx Perfect! thanks for the fast reply and info. We just picked up this machine
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
You'll like it, its just not happy with "bigger" injectors, but it does work!
@czorr19974 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx actually we have two set's of the 210's we plan to flow first. If you have any tips with settings machine or best way to flow them is greatly appreciated. they are new set's. take care
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
@@czorr1997 the only thing you can really do is 4 injectors at a time, and only 1000 or 1500 cycles. (I think it's the "high speed" setting). The injectors will fill the tubes too fast if you do any of the timed cycles
@maximusvonce13814 жыл бұрын
E85 won't clog anything as long as you drive car at least every 2 weeks. Not sure how you clogged your injectors on e85
@maximusvonce13813 жыл бұрын
@K Sk You should of been using Techron Marine every tank e85 and no problems. I know tons of guys running e85 for years and zero issues. So i guess you know more than those guys do😆😆😆😆
@maximusvonce13813 жыл бұрын
@K Sk I meant look up Alejandro Flores on here. He uses e85 in both his fast street cars no issues. Look him up moron. And look up vmp performance and stangmode. They all use e85 and no issues. Look em up. Techron Marine is the best too. I use 2 ozs every fill up
@maximusvonce13813 жыл бұрын
Look up all those other guys dumbass. And its not $10 a tank idiot. I buy 120 ounces for $70 on Amazon. Big jug of Techron Marine. I use 1.5 ounces per tank of e85. Very cheap insurance and not $10 a tank. You are stupid
@maximusvonce13813 жыл бұрын
@K Sk Actually Amazon sells 128 ounces Techron Marine for $56 now. Do the math idiot.
@maximusvonce13813 жыл бұрын
@K Sk One 128 oz jug techron Marine lasts 85 tank fills at 1.5 ounces per fill up. 1.5 ounces services 15 gallons e85. But i always have residual Techron Marine in tank cause i fill up at 1/4 tank every time.
@hayzersolar Жыл бұрын
if you remove the rail all the way off the machine it will not drip onto it.
@ef2fodo4 жыл бұрын
I was looking to buy this unit. I am just wandering how you like it? how long you had it? thank you for your time..
@aftersale93373 жыл бұрын
Please search our product AUTOOL CT200 on AMAZON and tell the sales your problem, Or send email to aftersale@autooltech.com, thanks for your attention.
@skeimi784 жыл бұрын
Does this work with fsi injectors like audi a4 2.0tfsi b7 have?
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with those injectors, so.i cant really say.
@dannywilsher41655 жыл бұрын
Are you running a 4 injector setup? I guess I need to go back and look at more of your videos when I get time.
@diygaragetx5 жыл бұрын
If you mean in the methanol side, yeah - it has 4 x 210's spraying straight methanol. The sequential part is 8 x 210's spraying E85.
@dannywilsher41655 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx Wow! I don't know if I have seen a setup like that. I can see how it would help keep the fuel charge cooler. Is that a factor in why you run that setup or is it a bigger horsepower setup that you are striving for?
@diygaragetx5 жыл бұрын
@@dannywilsher4165 It could very well be overkill, but on a good day it should be able to put down close to 1400hp. The methanol does a fantastic job of bringing the air temps WAY down. In the dyno video, on 8psi boost, and the methanol barely coming on - it dropped the air temps from close to 160 down to 105ish. Just wait till it sees ALL the methanol!
@dannywilsher41655 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx Makes me smile just thinking about it!!!!
@diygaragetx5 жыл бұрын
@@dannywilsher4165 watch for the next video! 😬😬😬😬
@kayran20244 жыл бұрын
Isn't this automatic one-button drain?
@jeffturner63305 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@FgDan4 жыл бұрын
Do you use something different to clean e85 used injectors
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
No, I used the same stuff (purple power) to clean all injectors that I've ran on this machine. Works great!
@2slofouru4 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx what about just running wd40? I used it for comparing my injectors, before realizing the machine couldn't keep up. You can get it by the gallon at hardware stores.
@ctbcrf503 жыл бұрын
Is running a tank of 93 every few tanks of E85 sufficient in cleaning out the injectors?
@ctbcrf503 жыл бұрын
K Sk Idk what you’re talking about but E85 is a great fuel for boosted engines like my LSX. Been running it for a few months and no issues. I drive often to keep fuel moving and I use Klotz fuel lube to lubricated the pumps. There’s tons of other guys using E85 on a similar application with no issues. If anything is crap it’s junk 93 which has no detonation suppression abilities
@ctbcrf503 жыл бұрын
K Sk that’s why I got me a flex fuel sensor so I can run some gas through and clean the system or (pickle) it. All I’m arguing is that it’s not trash fuel
@frozenstang38682 жыл бұрын
Do you still have the autool ct-200 and what is you impressions of it after 2 yrs
@diygaragetx2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do, still use it regularly. Same as before, if you're using for big injectors, it'll run the pump down to 0 pressure, but hasn't been a hindrance yet.
@frozenstang38682 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx thanks for the quick reply. The pump is not a big deal that can be easily upgraded though i am only using 78lb/hr injectors. I worry about the electronics failing mostly. the accuracy seems consistent which is good.
@diygaragetx2 жыл бұрын
@@frozenstang3868 no problem. With those injectors it will work fine. I have 220's that I clean 4 at a time, and I have a pretty good idea what they do on certain tests, and thats what I use as my bench mark. Upgrading the pump would simply overfill the vials and it really won't do anything for you
@frozenstang38682 жыл бұрын
@@diygaragetx Sorry for the confusion wrong words used . What i meant was if at some point the pump failed it is easy enough to replace. But if the electronics are sub par it renders the machine somewhat useless. Just nice to have some real world feedback since amazon reviews are spotty at best.
@diygaragetx2 жыл бұрын
Ah, ok.. yeah, no problems at all with mine then
@1991tommygun3 жыл бұрын
Are these machines really worth it?
@felixcalles8437 Жыл бұрын
No friend . I own a shop and order one that last three days. I order a second one and before start cleaning , it begun leaking. This machine are great but the issue is leaking.
@jeffmcdonald98244 жыл бұрын
What fluid are you using for the cleaner?
@diygaragetx4 жыл бұрын
The testing portion is mineral spirits. The cleaner is 50/50 purple power (walmart) and water
@hondagarageprojects43784 жыл бұрын
When you get done cleaning the injectors in the ultrasonic bath do you blow out the cleaner with a air compressor or do you just put it straight back in the machine and start flow testing?
@griffon32753 жыл бұрын
and having invested as much money as you did on an injector cleaner ? and possibly watched many videos prior ? it never occurred to you to replace the screen ? or to turn the injectors around and back flush them to at the very least flush the screen of debri or backflush them with screen removed ? whole lot of money spent on equpment to half ass it dont ya think ? and exactly where does the E85 clogging come into play ? you never once said the injectors in your car on the dyno had x amount of miles or x amount of hours run time prior to removal ?
@diygaragetx3 жыл бұрын
You are ASSuming a lot of things. The video wasn't about fully cleaning the injectors, rather it was about finding which ones were culprit with the problem I was experiencing. The first car, if you must know, was a brand new build. Only dyno time on everything before it was disassembled and moved over to this car. Both cars have a 100 micron fuel filter before pumps and a 10 micron AFTER. Nothing gets past these filters. If it must be spelled out for you, the first minute explains that the injectors sat with no fuel in them - so the only logical explanation is that the fuel was to blame - read between the lines.... Especially considering the fuel is even filtered being poured into the car. One more time, you're assuming to know something - these particular injectors don't have screens - As of this video, there was small cone shaped filters in each inlet fitting of both rails. Last but not least, before the injectors were put back into the car they were cleaned again, back flowed 2 times and rinsed. Just because it's not in the video doesn't mean anything, I don't show EVERYTHING.