Old metalhead has a Bassgasm reacting to Jinjer - Perennial (Live at WOA 2019)

[@coder4liberty]

Jinjer are pretty cautious about the backing tracks they use. This song is a good example. On the studio version there are a lot of backing vocals and layers. Live they barely include it. Just the few you pointed out. When I did show production I sang backups from the FOH position. Nobody knew where the parts were coming from but they were there. Like any tool it can be misused. I think you would really like their live video for Who is Gonna be the One. That is Vlad's normal drum setup. He was originally a classical pianist. so he likes his drums low and he plays split handed.

[@frankh9600]

For Vortex and Teacher Teacher you can do the OMV. Insane video art.

[@Robertsmith-dy3sh]

Live performance is Jinjer's superpower! Every member of this band are top tier!

[@oldmanmetaldude]

Wish I knew about them when they played in my town. I just found out yesterday that a band I have friends in was the local support for the show too!

[@Robertsmith-dy3sh]

@@oldmanmetaldude That's a bummer, having met them several times, they are really cool people as well.

[@oldmanmetaldude]

@@Robertsmith-dy3sh With any luck they will come back

[@JS-TexanJeff]

Your first merch idea: "If it adds to it, Do it!"

[@davidjames6036]

Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session) Jinjer - Perennial (Live At Wacken 2019) Jinjer - Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev) Jinjer - On The Top (Live in Kiev) Jinjer - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Official Live) Jinjer - Judgement & Punishment (Tatiana One Take Vocal) Jinjer - Teacher Teacher (Official Video) Jinjer - Captain Clock (Live at Resurrection Fest 2018) Jinjer - Cloud Factory (Official Video) Jinjer - Outlander (failure .color Video) Jinjer - No Hoard of Value (Official Lyrics Video) Jinjer - I Speak Astronomy (Official Video) Jinjer - Vortex (Official Video) Jinjer - Wallflower (Official Video) Jinjer - Mediator (Official Video) Jinjer - Disclosure (Official Video) Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Video) Jinjer - Live At Wacken 2023

[@wombazful]

great reaction, i highly recommend to check out their track 'home back'

[@marygun7577]

Jinjer has so many good songs. Continue the journey 🤘

[@davem287]

That bass tone reminded me of the rare occasion you were allowed to hear Newsteads bass on "my friend of misery"

[@whispermason8052]

Have you done jinjer , who is gonna be the one, yet? If you are into bass

[@cjjoe2385]

Jinjer - Retrospection (Live in Melbourne) Awesome performance. I was at that concert and it was 🔥

[@Jinjer13]

I absolutely share your opinion about playing live and backing tracks!!! thanx for your interest and reaction to a worldclass band................ and warm greetings from germany and from an old german musician ;-)

[@bigwhig3126]

Speaking in cars, she's the toughest 4x4 All Terrain Vehicle of all Female vocalists I've ever heard. Her range, versatility, and dynamics set her apart. She's ventured into areas of music that few women have gone and DONE IT VERY WELL and that's not pandering to a narrative. I sincerely mean that and she has quite a group of dedicated musicians she's with in Jinjer. Kudos to them too. She's earned her place in heavy metal. Quite an amazing vocalist if you ask me.

[@Double_J_48629]

for more bassgasm from this band , their song _Wallflower_ springs to mind. for drumgasm, check either _Vortex_ and/or _Mediator_ of the 2 other songs you mentioned, the OMV should suffice. ever since the Micro album, they've really poured a lot of money and effort in to making OMVs that are truly works of art. if you get to _Judgement & Punishment_ , the vocal 1-take is often preferred (though the OMV is pretty neat) the most common "musts" for the live version are _Pit of Consciousness_ and _Who is Gonna Be the One_ (but i doubt anyone will complain if you add to that list) Vlad does have a pretty reserved kit ... 2 snares (1 of which is usually a piccolo) , 2 floor toms , high-hat , kick bass , and what seems to be an ever-expanding array of cymbals (he started with just a few ; but seems like every passing year, he adds a couple) -- the cymbal array does indeed _look_ small, but i think that's largely due to the fact that he keeps them low and relatively compact together (and lack of rack toms really helps to keep that low profile, as well)

[@oldmanmetaldude]

I'll add Wallflower to the list, the others you mentioned are all on my to do list

[@garycoates4987]

When we saw them they didn't use the extra harmonies on this song or the intro track voice over , they obviously are more experimenting with it than relying on it and its very subtle like you said 😅

[@module79l28]

The harmonies in this video were added in post, if you watch the bootleg video of the whole concert filmed by a fan who was in front of Eugene, you won't hear them.

[@carlgalilee7339]

Think Jinjer still have Alexander Antoshin as their live FOH engineer. He was/is considered the unseen 5th member of the band. Discovered Jinjer by accident about 8 years ago and they've remained one of my all time favourite bands since then - Been listening to metal for 40 years so things can get a bit jaded - not so with these guys though ! Best live vid for me is 'Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev)' - Romans main melody on this has become one of my go to warm up exercises on Guitar Couple of Tati facts - her idols are Amy Winehouse and Gwen Stefani, with the latter something you can definitely hear in her cleans. Growls are from wanting to sound like Otep Shamaya - to practice where she wouldn't be heard (she's an extreme introvert), she would stand near a busy motorway and scream at the passing cars :) Oh and if you want an idea how Eugene gets his awesome bass sound. Not sure if his Helix is straight to FOH or does the same as Roman and uses 5 cable method to include his amp. Amp: Markbass Little Mark III Cab: Coffee Cabs Line 6 Helix. Full breakdown of his settings here though I'm sure he's tweaked stuff since then: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i37QaIKlr813iLM

[@oldmanmetaldude]

Having a permanent FOH engineer is a big plus for a band of any size

[@kevinkrochak2546]

Thank you, man! Enjoying your channel, and all the best!!

[@benburch460]

Official videos for both Teacher Teacher and Vortex, most definitely

[@timgoertzen6701]

Jinjer has a great sense of spacing like you said - rollercoaster ups/downs - then give it even half a second pause/throw in the bass space - and then continue c:

[@BenBallard13]

To flip from harsh vocals to clean headvoice takes some hellish vocal control... Helps if you have a good set of lungs on you too 😉 If you like your female vocalists and "different" bands, especially bands that have "stage presence", then check out Heilung - "In Maidjan" at the LIFA festival > kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ66hY1pgMuhjqcsi=CA9K6nOjWg3YdHO1 And their track "Krigsgaldr" from the same festival > kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4PKkGuEg7WHeposi=rsSBqBt7sI7hZHmo Maria Franz has an absolutely incredible voice. It's innocence, haunting, power, control all in one. Her male counterpart's voices are visceral, primal, powerful and a tad terrifying. They're a German/Danish/Norwegian pagan band. They sing in multiple languages too. The languages used are varied, with German, English, Gothic, Old High German, Icelandic, Latin, Old English, Proto-Norse, Proto-Germanic, and Viking age Old Norse being used. They make all their drums, horns, costumes themselves. TRIGGER WARNING! These tracks will make you want to strip naked, paint yourself in mud and ash warpaint, don animal skins and stomp through muddy field and run through leafy woodlands in the fog at midnight, full moon. Get your inner viking warrior going Turk! You could so easily pass for one!

[@oldmanmetaldude]

And to flip without damaging the vocal chords/folds takes real skill!

[@BenBallard13]

@@oldmanmetaldude absolutely.... The vocal warmup must be hell. You have to practice chest voice/head voice clean vocals AND chest voice/head voice harsh vocals. Have you seen the "Death Metal warmup" video? It's 😂 af! I'll find it and post it here in an edit. EDIT - "Death Metal vocal exercises" kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5i4lKGLn82FjpIsi=ClR3dJPe4VujXrel

[@oldmanmetaldude]

@@BenBallard13 Will check it out soon! cheers!

[@BenBallard13]

@@oldmanmetaldude definitely check out Heilung too.? I'm going through a few MH issues at the moment and I find they re-centresl and re-energise me... I can zone out to them and get stuff back in order better. Not everyone's first choice for that sort of thing, but it works for me. Love the channel, can't wait to see it grow and take pride in knowing it's helping you also. Cheers Turk.

[@casandraadugyamfi]

My favorite performance is Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev

[@korrigan6072]

Eugène is definitely one of the best bassists of this generation. I had the honor to meet him personally at the Motocultor Festival this years, a very nice guy too.

[@mikedown1250]

I've seen Tesseract twice and they play to a vocal and synth backtrack. I'm all for it as it adds to the experience.

[@sharoncarlisle9453]

Jinjer is awesome!!

[@77aleks77100]

10:37 Her miс with dubling. But they have a computer with additional tracks (not voice). Because it’s difficult to play with three people; they used to have a rhythm guitarist, but now they don’t.

[@module79l28]

10:17 - The harmonies you heard in this part were not from the concert, they were added in post. The only backing track they used in this song was the one at the beginning. And yes, they obviously play to a click track, otherwise how would they be in sync with the backing tracks they use in multiple songs? Btw, it's the drummer, Vlad, who controls the click track and the backing tracks from a laptop he has right next to him (you can see him leaning down at 13:19 to stop it after the song ends).

[@headofamonster]

Cool reaction!! Jinjer are indeed some talented folks. I’d like to request a different band, High on Fire. Their song “Snakes for the Divine” is killer (if you haven’t already heard it). Thanks! 🤘😎🤘

[@KaliIntusMortuis]

Your hair is glorious!

[@oldmanmetaldude]

Thank you :)

[@mikedanger6323]

You should check out the "Alive in Melbourne" video/cd. It's really, really good...

[@0verloADHD]

I am just learning about Jinjer so am watching what you watch. I have also been introduced to the band Nightwish, please think about some of their songs. I thought they were amazing. Their live versions are something else. There are also the loyal fans... The Nightwish army.... Another bunch of amazing beings. As a RENegade, I totally appreciate their passion and I can see why. They will follow just to see your reaction. Thank you. I am just about to go watch Jinjer 💜

[@oldmanmetaldude]

I have heard the name Nightwish for decades (and have likely heard the odd song here and there without realising it )and am familiar with Floor Jansen from her work with ReVamp, but have never really listened to them, so I'll have to check them out properly. Any suggestions on where to start?

[@0verloADHD]

@@oldmanmetaldude My first intro was 'Ghost love score' live. I think it's the main one people see first. It's about 10 years old the one I watched and it was captivating. I really don't know the group and would do them an injustice if I recommended anymore. However, her loyal Nightwish army and Gabriel will come I'm sure, and they will recommend other songs you should listen to. She has many styles as I am sure you already know.... If you play it, they will come, there are many and they are as loyal as the Renegades. 💜

[@Friskee62]

Why is your video playing backwards? You could also turn up your volume on the vid...

[@Double_J_48629]

it's a common tactic to avoid the automated copyright detector. (most people don't know how chill Jinjer and Napalm is about that stuff ; but always smart to stay in the habit) ALTHOUGH, the fact that lainnereP exists gives me a chuckle

[@artursruseckis4242]

For a musician, and especially - the bass man, the next song should be Who Is Gonna Be The One (Live) Napalm Records. That has some more bass wizardry, amazing drumming, different types of growls and unexpected ending (you always have to expect the unexpected with Jinjer) and in general - amazing chemistry of entire band. There might be better Jinjer songs out there, but this particular live video, at least to me, is the one that highlights the overall musicianship of the band members.

[@cjjoe2385]

Get into them, it gets a LOT better. Pisces and Perennial are not even close to their best. Vortex m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5rEgIZ9j7mqqrs&pp=ygUNdm9ydGV4IGppbmplcg%3D%3D Teacher Teacher (official version) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYPOg6qCZdudhck Jinjer - I Speak Astronomy (Live) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2LanJpvrMqhp9U This version is f@&kin spectacular 🤘😎🤘 Perennial (live at Wacken) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKnMZJxvrN-EeM0 Outlander (failure .color) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqWyip15oK19l80 Cloud Factory (Official live) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZibpZyIrr2ooLM Bad Water (Official live) All clean vocals, heavy bass and a dark sound m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6qlqp1re56NoLM On the Top (live in Kiev) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/an7KaJmYoM5gnaM Home Back (Official video). m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqXCepKdndKLf7M This song is about leaving their war torn country of Ukraine. Very deep song for them. “ This house is not our sheltering anymore.” “ I came back home so I want my home back” “ Don't you leave us homeless!” Judgement and Punishment (official) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5LZlKmobruZp68 Who is gonna be the one (Official live) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2fVp2innp1gbtU No Hoard Of Value (Lyric video) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWfQeIKur7iJerc The below is off their first album. The video has a few seconds of interview first, then the music. WELL worth a listen Exposed as a Liar (Crowd Factory DVD Trailer) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJnMiYiNgJmXaZY Jinjer - When Two Empires Collide (live). m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZK8dGtqfdyCh7c Until the End (Live) 2015 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJSbdJmwisyCi6M Scissors (lyrics). Very old version m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGWnoYyjerlql8k

[@liabowden8526]

Sooo... you share your home country with the band I listen to more than any other (tho Unleash the Archers is coming in a close second, then Jinjer & Ayreon). Have you possibly already heard of Be'lakor? Try Valence or Locus, or An Ember's Arc... everybody says Countless Skies, and yeah, for a damn good reason, but Valence Really gets my blood pumping, lol. 😅🤷‍♀️. Idk, I just love that band so damn much.💚🤘Every Last Song is good if not Grrreat imo. But maybe you've already heard them...😁

[@oldmanmetaldude]

I saw Be'lakor live at my local venue about 8 or 9 years ago but was likely paying more attention to the person I was there with than the band ( I'm only human haha) and didn't keep up with them. I should revisit their stuff soon.

[@TheDoctorFlay]

On the subject of using backing tracks, imagine how much would be missing from a live Pink Floyd set if they didn't use any of the extra layers from the album.

[@oldmanmetaldude]

Absolutely, but you would be amazed how any people criticize bands for using any kind of backing track. I know many musicians who fall into that category (thankfully it is something I have never done). As I said in the video, If it adds to it, Do it!

[@DrTim0thyLeary]

IMO only uneducated fools criticize a band for using backing tracks. Especially if it's only for harmonies and atmospherics. Yes, these bands can absolutely play the songs live without them. But they add a layer of complexity that makes the live show feel more "complete" and closer to the album version. And fans appreciate that. We're there to see a performance after all.

[@oldmanmetaldude]

People also criticize other bands due to jealousy as well. IMO jealousy can be a good thing if it pushes you to do better, but a bad thing when it pushes you to try and drag others down

[@ВодападРека]

Бро,,все буде добре головне співай!

[@nb1inheaven788]

... So ok I have done my job, subs, liked and will make a little blabla to your reac. ! So yes Jinjer is a great metal band from Ukraine, the lyrics are often hiding a great support to their country wich is fighting against these bloody russian ! I hate them since I was young,and now I am a really old french metalhead (Second Wave Black Metal the most I think) ... But I have a first question are you from the US or the UK, because the most reaction channel I see are from the US and you have such an accent, I think you're from the UK ? (Great if yes). Second question , why do you name you "old ...." ? I am old yes, you could be my son, easy !!! Ok about an other song from Tatiana ... I think about " Who is gonna be The One " live official vid ... Great song ! (Like all tati's song ^^). And dont bother to much about backing tracks things, Jinjer is a real true band !!!

[@oldmanmetaldude]

To answer your questions, Firstly, I am from Australia, and the second question, I will be 47 this year, but the whole "old man" thing is a bit of self deprecating humour ( somethme we aussies do a lot ) and because as far as the music industry is concerned is would be considered too old to pay attention too. But mainly because calling myself the "Old man metal dude" makes me laugh

[@sidstewart7399]

Sensible about tracking..bands like Jinjer have to tour like mad to earn a living and can't afford to have session players/singers.

[@attwxlv5966]

What do you think about Symphonic Metal? For example check NIGHTWISH - The Greatest Show on Earth (with Richard Dawkins) (OFFICIAL LIVE)

[@mikedanger6323]

So called Symphonic metal is really generic pseudo-classical rock that has been around for the last 50 years. Unoriginal and boring. The jazz inspired metal of JInjer is so much more interesting...

[@oldmanmetaldude]

I have heard of Nightwish, and am familiar with Floor Jansen from her work with ReVamp, but have never really listened to them, so I'll have to check them out properly. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@attwxlv5966]

@@oldmanmetaldude Thanks - hopefully you won't be disappointed. (Meanwhile I'm going to check out JInjer who is mentioned above and see if that guy knows what he is talking about)

[@attwxlv5966]

I mentioned "The Greatest Show On Earth" above, but Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (WACKEN 2013) might be a better choice to start looking at them

[@bobbyalonso3513]

I agree ! I hope he will check it out !!!!!!!!!!!!!@@attwxlv5966

[@Kylewats]

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