Installation of Redline Flight Cranks on my 1987 Haro Master. Please don't forget to ‘Subscribe’ to my channel and Hit the ‘Like’ button.
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@mahazda3512 жыл бұрын
Wow a KZbin video that isn’t loud, like the vibes, thanks for the help
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
Thanks, no problem.
@KillaDeejay Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a quiet workshop
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
Ha ha! True that!
@VarnHomestead9 жыл бұрын
very cool, I just dug my old 87 Haro EST out from under my parents house. Im going to try to rebuild it.
@njpurorock788 жыл бұрын
take it apart and install the spacer and you'll see it will spin freely and smooth. without the spacer you're binding the bearing that's why it's not spinning more then one turn on its own
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin out my vid. I am aware of that but that's how I want my cranks to spin. I like the cranks to stay in place for tricks once I leave the pedal. When the sleeves are installed sometimes they spin too easily no matter how much you tighten them down.
@gweedo12345 жыл бұрын
The spacer doesn't work on the old school bikes anyway it leaves the bearing cups sticking out a quarter inch 1/8 on each side so without the sleeve it's literally the same design as the old school bearing open ball bearings with cups no sleeves 🤙 And filing it down and/or cutting the sleeve then you enter into the hack job are and I'm not really down with that
@Younghead4 жыл бұрын
Some times you can’t help people, they have to learn the hard way, me personally I wouldn’t wanna bind my bearings.
@DadeRich7203 жыл бұрын
3 piece cranks are for racing not freestyle
@davinhiscock290 Жыл бұрын
The sleeve is crap dosent fit old 91 420 so I left it out fark it
@escapetrekkingadventures37593 жыл бұрын
Excellent video showed everything in perfect detail..
@generationofbmx3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it could be of help. Stay Rad
@JN-nj8ju9 жыл бұрын
Fully explained on "how to" great job and thanks!!! Restore of my DB assault w/180 flight cranks in process
@skyelee93983 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks mate 👍
@generationofbmx3 жыл бұрын
Cool man. No problem!
@80hitultracombo8 жыл бұрын
The bearings for my Redline cranks screw into my Skyway frame. It's a pretty nifty advancement.
@Invisible_Visualz7 жыл бұрын
Fully sick bro!
@jacksonmarshallkramer50872 жыл бұрын
If you're into the old school bikes you don't want advancement and you definitely don't want center pull brakes. You want and 80s era original. Dia Compe MX1000 brakes and a neck that ectends into the fork and is tightened with a wedge, and definitely no seats slammed down to the frame. Wtf is that all about?
@a.m.67139 жыл бұрын
Totally COOL, Thanx Bro for Your time in posting this...Double thumbs up!!!!
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@999supercharged9 жыл бұрын
Sweet....thanks for that. Kuwahara is now complete.
@TM-tg4yn4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid my man! I like the play by play, no good reason for anyone to blow up their install after watching this vid. And sleeve or no sleeve is a personal choice people, LoL! It’s his bike! WTH? My new flights are going in a my Sting I’ve had since 1982. I have the original flights but they are destroyed because when you are a kid you don’t take care of this stuff like we would still own it 40 years later! LoL!
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks!
@danielfinke6677 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thank you!
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
Thnx for checkin in
@Cupcakeskitchen4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@Herbybandit6 жыл бұрын
OMG! Please ppl don’t leave out the inner sleeve! You’ll destroy the bearings in no time!
@generationofbmx6 жыл бұрын
I install all my cranks this way. Never had a problem yet. As long as you dont tighten down the arms too tight you should be fine. You shouldnt tighten the arms down too tight anyway.
@jessejames5825 Жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx ya you should or they will loosen up and start squeaking.
@shawndaniel43434 жыл бұрын
I would love one of those haro masters but there so expensive!!!
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
About 5 or 6 years ago they were priced more reasonable but lately have gone way up in price. Its a difficult hobby to be in anymore.
@theurbancycleryshop21447 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly informative!
@raleighburner15894 жыл бұрын
There are three old school cranks that are valuable and they are hutch redline and profile but only experts will recognise the real ones
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the Haro Group One cranks. Had a set I bought and sold for over $800 bucks.
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Bullseye, and 1989-90 Haro Fusion
@greghekter71772 жыл бұрын
1st gen peregrines go for $1000
@infoshootsbrahcom9 жыл бұрын
Why would you not use the bearing spacer?
@mattb37793 жыл бұрын
You can use the spindle bolts to add a bit of side loading to the bearings, making it so the pedals are not as free and stay in place for certain tricks.
@richardmcsweeney10862 жыл бұрын
so an general R.L. osborne pro 86 hustler would be an american bottom bracket ? and what's the 19mm 22mm mean ??? thanks
@generationofbmx2 жыл бұрын
Yes. American BB. And, 19mm or 22 mm is the diameter of your crank spindle that slides through the bearings. So, whatever size spindle you have or choose that comes with your cranks set, you need to make sure that you select the correct size American BB bearings. For example. You buy Redline Flight cranks that come with a 19mm spindle, you would buy an American BB for 19mm spindle. Or, you purchase new school Subrosa Bitchin cranks that come with a 22mm spindle, you would buy an American BB for a 22mm spindle.
@johnpaige8914 Жыл бұрын
One question I've got a 2002 mongoose hoop d that I want to get these for I was wanting to ask did you have to upgrade the pedals because the spinal was a different size or was the spinal hole the same size on the 3 peace the same as the original one peace?
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
Yes you have to get different pedals now. All one piece cranks take 1/2 pedals. All 3 piece cranks take a bigger 9/16 size pedal. As in 9/16 pedal spindles.
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
Or…if you really gotta keep your existing 1/2 pedals you can get pedal adapters for 1/2 to 9/16
@johnpaige8914 Жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx I've never heard of pedal adapters lol
@@generationofbmx I appreciate it, all the ones I was seeing fit 1/2 cranks and 9/16 pedals
@rastagideon82369 жыл бұрын
nice job on this video
@paulr35562 жыл бұрын
And bigger washers used to secure sprocket? Via adaptor, should be flush otherwise side movement on the adapter. The screw helps, but should be flush so no side movement
@generationofbmx2 жыл бұрын
Never had any side movement or issues with the way I installed this and I have 2 sets of these i stalled on 2 other bikes.
@bmxnati0n-haromidschool347 жыл бұрын
Nice Ride Bro!
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Stay Rad!
@phantoms-yy5jv2 жыл бұрын
I noticed when you put the arms on that the spindle didn't go to the exact end of the arms,bc mine are the same way.so you didn't have any problems with them like that?
@generationofbmx2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter as long as the spindle is set back at least an 1/8th of an inch or more from the arms so that the spindle bolts can pull the arms in tightly and secure them with out any loose play.
@rongohn1736 Жыл бұрын
Is that an 88 master you are working on ?
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
It’s the 87 Powder Blue Master.
@ttvshrek61234 жыл бұрын
Quick question how do I go about putting a 2020 3pc crankset sealed bbb on a 1985 diamondback hot streak
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
It dont matter what year crankset you have. All you do is buy the right size bottom bracket bearings that takes the right size crank spindle. So, you have a American bottom bracket right? And what is your crank spindle size? 19mm or 22mm? Lets say your crank spindle is 19mm so you would buy a American Sealed Bottom Bracket for 19mm spindle.
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Take note. There are 2 kinds of American BB’s. The old school kind are American. The newer school kind are called American Mid or just Mid. Mids are a little smaller.
@ttvshrek61234 жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx I've never actually replaced them and it seemed too easy..thought there would have some measuring involved thanks !
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Its an old school frame. It has an American BB size.
@mdgmdg335 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video hope I get a reply. Great video thank you. My question is.. it’s probably best to put the bearing in the cup first? I put the cups in first and now I’m having a hard time getting the bearing in. I’m just using a mallet and a piece of wood. I’m prob about to go to the store and get a pice of all thread.
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
Try greasing the inside of the cups and around the bearings really well then put a steel plate (or something harder than wood) over the bearings and tap it in with a hammer. The reason I say use a steel plate is because if you use something, softer like wood, it will absorb the force and wont be enough to drive them in. A rubber mallet also wont be hard enough to exert enough force. If all else fails the bike shop should be able to help you.
@mdgmdg335 жыл бұрын
GenerationOfBmx Thanks for the reply. I didn’t read your message until after I attempted with the wood. Lol. Does it make more sense to pull out the cups and start over or does that ruin the integrity of the cups?
@mdgmdg335 жыл бұрын
I got them in with a 10 pound sledge a piece of metal and a rag. Finally!
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@teflonrobg2 жыл бұрын
What was the complete time to do this?
@generationofbmx2 жыл бұрын
Maybe an hour or so but its something I dont do every day.
@jacobgerardy6304 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get some on my 84 Columbia pro am
@kevingage66768 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is the first video I found and I have an 86 sport. How is it holding up without the spacer?
@CoroaEntertainment8 жыл бұрын
+generationofbmx Your cranks should spin better than that with the sealed bearing kit. The spacer sleeve you left out is there for a reason. It's to help keep the inner sealed bearing seats/races from being pushed too far inwards when you tighten down the crank arm bolts. Without the spacer sleeve in place you are exposing the sealed bearings to unwanted inward forces , which can lead to premature bearing/race wear.
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I understand that. My solution for now is to not tighten the axel bolts up too tight and I should be fine. I actually don't want the cranks to spin easily because I want them to stay in the position I left them in when I do a trick so that when I return to the bike they are where I left them. Many times when the cranks are installed with the sleeve they spin too easily and freely no matter how tight you lock down the axel bolts.
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
All of my bikes that don't have the sleeve are holding up just fine. So long as they are not tightened up too much you should be fine.
@danlaplume49428 жыл бұрын
very long time for to install the Red line crank ...
@scottwilson18964 жыл бұрын
haste makes waste
@jayfulton67895 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have a 97 GT vertigo I'm refurbing. Can I use the "sealed" convertion 3 pc crank set? Thank you for any responses
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
Yes. If you have a American Bottom Bracket then get a Sealed American Bottom Bracket. Make sure you get the right size to match your crank spindle. EXAMPLE: If your crank spindle is 19mm then you would get a Sealed American Bottom Bracket for 19mm.
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
Same rules apply if you have a Mid Bottom Bracket. It would be Sealed Mid bottom Bracket for 19mm
@jayfulton67895 жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx ok , I appreciate it . Thanks
@crosbiecroz61115 жыл бұрын
Yep did it on my 98 performer and my 90
@thomasjones46033 жыл бұрын
I installed these on my Kuwahara Laser Lite and the bottom brackets bearings just slipped right in and were very loose. Do you use cups on this install or just the sealed bearings provided in the kit?
@generationofbmx3 жыл бұрын
If your frame has the large American Bottom Bracket you will need to put the bearings in the cups and press them in. If you have the American Mid Bottom Bracket you will press in the bearings only. So yes, it sounds like you have to use the cups for your frame. Sounds like its probably an American Bottom Bracket frame.
@jacksonmarshallkramer50872 жыл бұрын
Where is the original Redline sprocket that belongs on those cranks, and why aren't they chrome? The old school single pinch 401s were chrome.
@generationofbmx2 жыл бұрын
Dude, these are the new Redline cranks that Redline is still making. You can get them in chrome or black. I have both. The sprockets are not sold with the cranks. Not everyone who uses these cranks wants to use them with a Redline sprocket. Google Redline bmx cranks for sale and you will find these. They’re everywhere for around $150.00 bucks give or take a few. Jeez
@survivor0304067 жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed. Sweet bike. Where are you from?
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hamilton,Ohio. Near Cincinnati
@hunterhodge67374 жыл бұрын
GenerationOfBmx are the bearings in the new sleeves interchangeable or do u have to buy a whole new bottom bracket set
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Buy a whole new set. I dont think ive bought a new school bottom bracket yet that was interchangeable. Hope this helps
@jeremymccardle36965 жыл бұрын
nice bearing press, did u make that or cop it from a bike shop?
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
I told a friend of mine what I was trying to do. He is a skilled trade in a machine shop and he made this for me using simple stuff laying around his shop. Its a simple setup that Works awesome. Thanks
@Luudking19 күн бұрын
Are these pretty light?
@generationofbmx18 күн бұрын
Not too bad. I would just call them A Typical for a set of cranks. If you’re an old-schooler you need to have a set in your arsenal. Grab them up.!
@Luudking16 күн бұрын
@@generationofbmx yeah I’d put them on my 600a. I’ve been debating. I got the sugino on there now
@rickdunbar23195 жыл бұрын
I put a set on my VDC cruiser.
@sirbrad46 жыл бұрын
What size wrench 8 MM?
@generationofbmx6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't remember.
@-ouv7 жыл бұрын
Why not go with a smaller crank gear?
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
With these frames the smallest you can go is a 30 something tooth sprocket. 36 I believe. Anything under that and the chain will rub up against the rear brake. I just wanted to keep this bike with what it would of had back then. A 44T
@BRENDAJASON17 жыл бұрын
I believe I would stick with the old crank. One piece and not have to worry about wearing loose
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
I have an appreciation for Opc's too but trust me, the bearings on those sets are just as much maintenance(if not more) than the sealed systems on 3 piece sets.
@franciscoxavier59668 жыл бұрын
What Pegs Are Those?
@generationofbmx8 жыл бұрын
+Javier Otero The pegs are a new aluminum set I purchased off Ebay. Can't remember what they were but are just a cheap brand. They are 26 tpi threaded for 3/8 axel and I cut about an inch off of them to allow for weight savings.
@franciscoxavier59668 жыл бұрын
Thank You Ithey look awesome i am rocking odyssey mpegs on my haro sport however those look nice
@greenjoe42027 жыл бұрын
I love 1 price cranks
@rickyjohnson9746 жыл бұрын
Never heard of 1 price cranks 😂😂
@jeremymccardle36965 жыл бұрын
they don't look as cool
@ericksongenao59945 жыл бұрын
Cuánto. Cuesta. Ese. Sentro
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
Las manivelas cuestan $ 120.00
@ericksongenao59945 жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx y. Todo. Completo
@Garfield9366 жыл бұрын
What’s the part number on the crank kit.
@generationofbmx6 жыл бұрын
Not sure, the cranks are now in storage. for sale by the way. any takers??
@dh-_10114 жыл бұрын
Why would you put flights on this bike? Isn’t that a freestyle frame? I’m sure you know as this video is old, but the crank set is too tight.
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
It was common in 1987 that Redline Flight cranks were put on the Haro Master. It was a very popular crankset for Freestyle bikes back in those days. Lastly, the tight setting I had these cranks set too was done to my specific liking for my Flatland riding. Before I go into a trick I set the cranks into a exact position so that when I return to the pedal it is there where I need it to be. Sometimes when a crank is more loose it has a tendency to rotate more out of my needed position. I have never had any issues with the way I install or set up my cranks.
@dh-_10114 жыл бұрын
Gotcha. I didn’t realize that they used those on freestyle. I thought those guys like one piece cranks with short arms (170?). I was into racing, I don’t know anything about that! Also it makes sense about having them tighter so they stay where ya put them. Makes total sense! Thanks bro.
@westminsterstudios73534 жыл бұрын
What was the baseball bat for.........
@Barnaby_bo7 жыл бұрын
so why didn't you show the completed bike
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
I suppose I should have but this video was more about the cranks than the bike. You can see this bike in my video about the 1" to 1 1/8 threadless headset conversion.
@ahmedbmx80418 жыл бұрын
You must be watching how to basic videos lol😂😂😂
@luisalbertocampos6259 жыл бұрын
donde consigo unos kranks de esos?
@generationofbmx7 жыл бұрын
Ace Bmx
@anonymouseveryday96294 жыл бұрын
My cranks are custome red with black and my cousin tried to steal them bicuase he doesn't have a custome racing bmx
@generationofbmx4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! Well, at least you have something that other people are wanting!
@chris0718 Жыл бұрын
Brake placement is complete nonsense. Had a 2005 Nyquist R24 and the brake placement aggravated me every time I worked on it.
@generationofbmx Жыл бұрын
Pro’s and cons to it i suppose. Bad thing about them on the lower chainstay is that it makes it difficult to run new school 25t sprockets because it causes the chain to rub on the brake arms.
@chris0718 Жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx yeah, putting a rim with cassette hub is pretty unworkable with that setup. Best you can really do with it is 30t sprocket and 13t freewheel( flip flop rear hub on rim). Oops, sorry... For a 24" rim that was the setup I used. Not sure about a 20". I don't own a 20" but the 24" are same type of thing except for gearing.
@gweedo12345 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call this an old school bike I would call it a repop master Good bike but not old school I don't believe the old school bikes had cantilever brakes in the front
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are partially correct. Its a 1987 Haro Master with a conversion to 1 1/8 threadless headset. The conversion headset allows me to use the modern 1 1/8 new Haro Lineage stem. I used a threadless midschool Haro Megafork from the 90’s with the midschool front brake. And, the seat is a repop Dominator with a reopo aluminum seat post.
@jeremymccardle36965 жыл бұрын
those pedals did NOT come with that bike I can't believe those were even on there
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
I dont build my bikes to the exact specs that they came from the factory. I am a rider and I build my bikes with the parts that suit my riding preferences. When we were kids, all the guys on my block liked these pedals so when I built this bike a few years ago I went with them as a throwback to the days of my youth.
@jeremymccardle36965 жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx that's cool.....like I said I have a 88 that's all stock with the 990 brakes and the peregrine 48s......the cromes mint. it's the coral color. what's this bike worth u think?
@jeremymccardle36965 жыл бұрын
oh yea, it only has the 1peice original crank set
@generationofbmx5 жыл бұрын
$850 up to maybe $1100.00
@jeremymccardle36965 жыл бұрын
@@generationofbmx thanks
@Shovelhead-Greg6 ай бұрын
Well since the video was posted many many moons ago, how did the crank hold up?
@generationofbmx6 ай бұрын
Just fine. Running another set in chrome on my 2017 Red Retro Master! Gotta have at least one set of these on one of my builds.
@Shovelhead-Greg6 ай бұрын
@@generationofbmxon the second build did you put the spacer in?
@generationofbmx6 ай бұрын
@@Shovelhead-Greg No! I haven’t put spacers in any of my three-piece Cranks sets, except for the very first set I ever put in, and I never have any problems with it. all of my riders right now currently have three piece cranks and none of them have the spacers in it and I’m doing just fine without it. Obviously you just don’t want to crank down the bolts too hard and over tighten anything but you shouldn’t do that anyway, whether you have a spacer in or not.
@Shovelhead-Greg6 ай бұрын
@@generationofbmxsounds good. Just wondering longevity and whatnot