Old School Runescape gets its biggest ever Combat changes!

[@calvinnguyen1870]

Osrs team needs to be careful that they don’t make the game too complex. It’s runescape, not wikiscape. I don’t wanna spend my time running damage calcs or looking up weaknesses, I wanna actually play the game. The game can be complex without also being needlessly obtuse.

[@Ashen2437]

I thought the same thing, I think they plan on implementing a in game examine option to all monsters to see what their weakness is.

[@calvinnguyen1870]

⁠@@Ashen2437that’s good, I had that exact same idea. Either that or like some sort of “monster log” to look them up in-game.

[@Intolerant93]

​@calvinnguyen1870 there is a spell on the lunar book that does exactly this.

[@TheCrazyhairdude67]

The Monster Examine spell does that, but it's locked behind lunar spells and 66 magic. I hope they put it on the standard spellbook and drop the level requirement way down

[@bruhmomentoisntdiamond7708]

That's cool, anyway this spell called "monster examine" exists :0

[@mikeg8543]

LOL the title dragged me in and the "were not going down that path again" was perfectly placed at the start xD

[@cyaniczed7676]

Smallexplamp is going to have to restart his slayer guidr series

[@Groovy480v]

Would make more sense for spells to work like this rather than how they are now.

[@FoulMouthFishing666]

I think most of us assumed thats how it was already lol

[@Miakirr]

@@FoulMouthFishing666 For real, I always thought this was how it worked lol

[@FoulMouthFishing666]

@@Miakirr I played RS3 for a bit when i first came back and thats how it is on there so ig I just assumed it was the same lol

[@DvdV1337]

It might not be eoc. But as an rs3 player, it sure does look alot like the eoc system. Also weaknesses to certain types of magic, bolts arrows or thrown weapons.

[@jarrettmertz5340]

Just make max hit increase by level, but unlocks happen as notmal

[@GorastMK]

But this will make the tome of fire and the normal spellbook not usable if the monster has no elemental weakness. For example Zulrah wasn't in the list and the Harm staff is very competetive dps there, without the elemental weakness it'll be useless because most of the dmg is coming from the tome of fire.

[@SonicXCII]

Competitive dps to what? Shadow so much better, its not even close

[@GorastMK]

@@SonicXCII I don't know the numbers, I've done Harm only Zulrah and it fares very well on the Magma and Green phase but it never hits on the Tanzanite one. If it's not #1 mage weapon then its prob #2

[@MeanBeanComedy]

True. I hate it.

[@matthijs2981]

I guarantee you're overthinking it. You, and the game, will survive.

[@MattCPhil]

Maybe just implement more boss specific element immunity? Like lava dragons barely get damaged by fire. But not everything in the game is affected, it makes sense that fire would hit harder than air on the average opponent

[@ChillnkillGaming]

loving the changes

[@xrulkaz]

DarockObama is such a based name

[@E_Lyslan]

Im curious how this could hurt alts hitting 1s to venom npcs. It helps bosses regen hp and die for kill credit to defence pures. Wont be able to hit a 1 anymore.

[@yoga4u283]

The last time I heard the words Changing combat eoc happend let's see how this goes

[@bknighty28]

I'm just happy I'm maxed. OSRS needs changes but the community thats enforcing and voting on these changes only play the game for a year or two and leave. I'm happy I can be done this chapter in my life finally because this games needs a new name. It's not OSRS and it's not what most of the original 500k people who voted for OSRS wanted.

[@Joedirt32]

@@bknighty28 classic 2007 was trash man sorry

[@mategido]

@@bknighty28 I started playing on 2020, got just over 4k ours now~~ almost reaching the 2200s. I feel like 'OS' is more a philosophy than anything, no cash shop with bs, meaningful progression, awesome quests, devs that actually care.. That's all I ever wanted on an mmo and OSRS never fails to deliver

[@bknighty28]

@@mategido I guess if everyone thinks of it that way I can also get on board with keeping it "OS" but something feels weird about calling it OS. It's a great game just not OS to me personally.

[@emma_tm]

last time they used the words changing combat they added an ability bar, instead of introducing some new weapon niches

[@tomfrazer2463]

What part of Old school RuneScape are you people having a problem with.. I will not restart and play old school old school RuneScape, once you screw this up I’m done

[@itsjust_naana5000]

NO tomfrazer3463 please don't go ! please tomfrazer9954 please don't :(. they outline every change 77 different ways for every brainlet to comprehend the changes, maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee listen to what they are changing nnnnnnnnnnnnn that would be the thing the MAJORITY are looking forward to changing. cheers for listening hope this got ya heart rate up ya whiner

[@tomfrazer2463]

@@itsjust_naana5000 go play RS3 loser

[@andrewprahst2529]

​@@itsjust_naana5000I feel like my heart rate is lowering because I have to focus to understand what you are saying. I'm also fairly critical of especially how they're going about range styles. I'm open for more diversity in certain ways, but the way they're going about them feels sloppy and, hate to say it, not old school. While one player might not be too important to jagex, I think the old school philosophy at stake is worth a lot more players.

[@SlimStarCraft]

stuff all of these changes, they need to fix how accuracy is calculated, it shouldnt be possible to hit 10 0's in a row with max gear, max stats and a t bow

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

That is RNG for you. No matter how much ranged accuracy you get, you still can't get 100% chance to hit. It is still possible to hit a 0 on a cow. Maybe they should learn from what RS3 recently did, and just remove accuracy, and replace it with damage potential.

[@SlimStarCraft]

@@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot yes exactly, something like damage potential or something, theres soooo many other systems to chose from. Without breaking the integrity of Old school. Like If you spent years to get to max combat you definitely should NOT hit a 0 on a fuckin’ chicken, lol

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

@@SlimStarCraft I like the idea of damage potential, but since that is what it is called in RS3, it could use a different name. Maybe something like armor piercing, and damage resistance. Another option would be to have accuracy scale linearly, instead of an inverse exponential curve. Then after the accuracy reaches 100%, excess accuracy could go into increasing the minimum hit. That way you could hit a 1 on a chicken with a godsword.

[@SlimStarCraft]

@@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot Yeah good idea, theres a lot of other ways to calculate accuracy, i feel like even if I was hitting 1 & 2's instead of 0's, combat would feel sooo much more rewarding

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

@@SlimStarCraft IF Jagex decides to change accuracy, then some people will say that it is EoC, and that the sky is falling.

[@seriousspikesam7770]

Throwing weapon weakness, arrow weakness, bolt weakness... here we go again.

[@nicholasyork2396]

I think this could be super cool actually. It should give some more flexibility

[@CinemaLtd]

Actually can’t wait for this combat update

[@christianspanggaard]

Will we be able to follow the Inquivertors on this channel? 👍 Edit: Nevermind, what about the big rigs? 😆

[@linac5804]

Tome of water new PvP meta. Water is increased accuracy on entangled targets.

[@GotNoKarma]

We need a witcher style OSRS. Use elements on blades or oils 😂

[@DordYT]

I would love to see a showstopper weapon for every weapon type. An example would be a twisted bow equivalent for crossbows

[@l.2002-k4t]

I really really hope they don’t make these changes to combat… I would hate it… it’s called OLD SCHOOL RUNESCAPE for a reason…

[@JustinsReviewChannel]

They will reruin it. Give it some time.

[@JustinsReviewChannel]

They run vote polls all the freaking time. Bro we done voted for everything whats left to vote forZ unless its new content stop changing the stupid game

[@nattythepanda4692]

"it's called old school runescape" me when I'm afraid of changes that will genuinely affect the game in a good way and bring more content and more interesting combat because I'm stuck in nostalgia.

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

Jagex tried the tactic of not updating OSRS, and the game started dying.

[@RRobert2007]

no way you cut out the part where manked said jk and smited the guys craws

[@FoulMouthFishing666]

Did he really? Lol

[@runeritari3]

air spellsa re perfect for training magic now and never need worry cost of other runes :D

[@FoodIsCrack]

Bro if the fire runes were a serious part of your price calculations you broke af

[@ditbenikendikbenjij]

Smoke staf...

[@andrewprahst2529]

You can get faster xp if you train on something with a weakness tho

[@laneysatm]

Bring back barrows end game

[@CardinalTreehouse]

1:03 Professional OSRS player btw

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

I wish combat changes in OSRS could be talked about without the mentally impaired calling it EoC.

[@SkizVids]

I understand that the update would bring more variety to PvM, but one of the main things I love about osrs is the simplicity. What was the main weapon of choice? The dscimmy, whip and now fang for all melee choices. Reaching msb, rune cbow, bofa to tbow and you knew you’d be able to do most content with it. Now you are going to have to have so many different weapons to do content we normally could access

[@TTyronE_]

Personally I see it the opposite way. If you ignore the fact that weaknesses exist, PVM will be the exact same speed it was before - but now you have the option of min-maxing your damage by using different weapons. Nobody is forced to, but it's optional for the people who want to tryhard. Edit: The above is only AS LONG AS they don't add resistances, that is where it gets fucked up for the casual players.

[@emma_tm]

you can change nothing about how u play, whip everything, and nothing will change

[@SkizVids]

@@TTyronE_ will they be adding resistances to these monsters? or just Weaknesses. Because if it's just weaknesses then I can understand

[@andidHayder]

@@SkizVidsthey’ve said the plan is to (as much as possible) make it so that if you log in the day after the update, and don’t know anything about it, nothing should feel any different. At least for the standard player. This is more about giving them more room in the future and to let people min max a bit more in the meantime.

[@SkizVids]

@@andidHayder ah well if that's the case im happy with that. I dont have much time to play anymore, so having to go get a heap of different weapons just for each niche sounded tedious

[@CopperPine]

Faux needs to fall off. His community/chat is insanely toxic. I wonder how he even has the fame he has for how rude and ridiculous he is.

[@Wutertheodds]

He’s rude and ridiculous? Or his chat is? The man doesn’t need to fall off because people who watch him can’t control themselves. And I’m not even sure what you claim is accurate

[@kenboyle8276]

I think he just has an extremely dry sense of humor, and also when he gets frustrated he takes it out on his chat by using extremely directed and degrading sarcasm. He's a good guy to people he decides to like, but a bit of a prick to others.

[@bodegacats8940]

Hes aight. He just hates annoying people. Which is why hes so relatable to cool people.

[@chillax4592]

Tome of air and earth next?

[@AITAauditor]

Dino in rev cave content... every video btw

[@BlueCarloz]

I swear I saw this video before.... mandala affecT?

[@bodegacats8940]

Im so excited for faux and roidie. Mmorpg is great at the game, but his high pitch "AAAWHOOOOOO!!!!!!!" Noises are the most unbearable and annoying sounds in the world. And obviously mammal is completely trash at the game and always ends these series like 1/5th of the way through. I cant wait to see faux and roidie but i think they should really get a 3rd and 4th guy in there honestly.

[@victorrenato835]

Its turning into rs3

[@michaelzyskowski2357]

already has, in 2018 with the release of 'double click every tick to save your prayer for 2 hours' inferno 'content' employ bozos' and have bozos' result

[@carlsonkearley3727]

It sounds good at first but then you go deep into game and then realise u now need 3 different spells for 1 raid

[@Horsemasterboss]

So you need a rune pouch, same as before.

[@FoodIsCrack]

RuneScape players when they have to bring more than one spell for end game content 😡🤬

[@oakridgereview1359]

@@FoodIsCrackhahahaha OS players in general… I’m guilty.

[@LordButtersI]

Game is better when there's more choice/opportunity to gain advantage by playing well. This is an improvement.

[@BTChanOSRS]

1/120 5th wave, 1/150 4th wave, 1/175 3rd wave is barely a buff on droprates lmaoo barely adds more production, if most people just spam wave 1 for splinters still

[@ThisisMYContinent]

😫

[@hamahamamies]

we need mage arena 3

[@h0lytorttu]

Why

[@hamahamamies]

@@h0lytorttu 2% spell damage bis cape is underwhelming in my opinion

[@ditbenikendikbenjij]

Off topic comment

[@blizzlichd1338]

the time i was this early no One was playing rs3

[@Thelivecoach]

Maybe instead of trying to endlessly innovate or create content that is only feasible with abnormal flicking, metronomes, tick perfect execution, maybe it is time ro realise this game would literally be dead if not for Runelite because the official client is utter trash and it still has not even got a scaling function for 480p menus that require a microscope on 4k standard in 2024?

[@barndog2145]

Why does my phone vibrate every time it finishes a section on the video?

[@AesthMed]

These defense changes are awesome. Honestly cant wait for them to be implemented. The beta world is buggy af right now, so you cant go off it. The devs are working on it.

[@RSWrecked]

look mom im famous :D*

[@Norrlands-rg5vm]

Fuck dps calculations, we dont want this

[@ivantrevisanwippel8008]

wonder if bowfa will lose its value

[@WhiteArrowVR]

Hopefully.. might be able to afford one then haha 😅

[@tylerhoyt7414]

So pretty much making UIM have to carry more crap and have even less spaces. Dude stop embracing change they struck gold. Your eventually going down that same path where we wake up and start dancing to attack enemies.

[@AbradolfLincler]

if it's not broken..

[@crazykhespar8487]

Sailing along with this pretty seriously alters the game. That and varlamore just came out... :(

[@rsgeek4503]

Imo this is totally redundant it only affects a few monsters and is aimed at earyl to mid game anyways making it even more confusing for newer players not the other way around, no one will use this or care you don't just go and mage dragons anyways and I dont see why would you especially as a newer player unless the exp really outweighs the cost of using magic instead of meele, another waste of dev time imo, brings nothing to the table

[@nattythepanda4692]

You say that because you're not a new player...also because you're dumb. Elemental weaknesses are nothing different and no more complex than melee attack styles.

[@DylanR69]

OS players break down if they have to do more than 5 APM

[@dmk-hr9od]

As a osrs mobile main I feel attacked

[@Wegogym101]

Didn’t a guy named not cuh hit u af lavas while u were out testing the new spells afufufufuf

[@urntrombliesparents7806]

My clan if full of people that bank stand for hours and go to cooking parties. They never do anything. But they are saying this update is gonna change the everything for them for the worse. It’s crazy those people get to vote on content

[@mouse6064]

Bring back eoc!

[@LastToTheParty777]

IF THIS FANCY NEW SYSTEM MAKES MY UIM UNPLAYABLE I WANT A REFUND ON ALL MY MEMBERSHIP Does seem like a good change though overall

[@colin5493]

RS3 just did this... and eoc is actually really good and im tired of pretending it isnt.

[@straight2thepoint790]

what are you smoking they did this 12 years ago in rs3 , and then patched it back out of the game leaving the remenant of style weakness in the top right corner. because people prefered the old system allowing you to fight basically anything with anything.

[@darthchowder2023]

NOoooOOooOOoo😢😢😢😢

[@Dustyleet]

this will kill the game, save my comment... For when a new oldschool release, jagex ?

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

Is this a joke, or are you that stupid?

[@99huntlife33]

Nice

[@EricDillon-cj3dz]

The difference between start of osrs and Torva is less than Torva till now. We lost our old game. Rip

[@artofficialintelligence]

Bruh, not DarockObama_ tryna steal my OG acc name lol

[@klungs542]

And still no pvp updates🙃

[@LordButtersI]

Pvp is dead

[@andrewprahst2529]

​Considering PvP content is some of the most popular on KZbin, I think it is something a lot of people would get into if certain efforts were made

[@klungs542]

@@LordButtersI watch what would happen if they brought back old bh with target teleporting, thatd revive it in a heartbeat😊 But yes to answer your comment it is dead, because of no fucking updates.

[@Abduckted]

I wish what jagex instead did was slow down with the powercreep and not change the combat.... Go play on a new game if you want to make a new game.

[@reallrecognizereal]

A yes an combat evolution cant wait

[@chrsisdashz]

such a mistake. lets change combat, so every single instance of combat is changed from the foundation. im sure theyll do it perfectly too, so there are no problems, and it surely wont ruin the game like the last time they tried this trash lol RIP osrs

[@riftrulek4d]

where skilly

[@straight2thepoint790]

Again we dont need to change the existing style system just to add new weapons. that is a straight up lie. and everybody knows it. there is at least 200 different weapons or armor you could add right now, just as varients to existing weapons that would have a place, and a niche.

[@nattythepanda4692]

Not really, there are already metas to practically everything, fang, whip, scythe, cudgel, abby dagger, trident, blowpipe. New weapons being added would just be filling extreme niches.

[@carlosmejia5536]

Lfg

[@Hap-g5m]

So what i understood they make shit easier and cheaper for bots 🙏

[@ditbenikendikbenjij]

Just do something about the bots, instead of these bs updates

[@Kingbrood]

Rrrrrr

[@stephennichols90]

👎👎👎

[@TheWeaver735]

EOC 2.0 calling it

[@TheCrazyPULI]

EOC lite... VOTE NO.

[@PapaDr3ad94]

So another trash series by the farmers 🤦

[@AsianImmersion]

8th!

[@Killthecrewosrs]

Make servers that are strictly 2007. I give osrs 2 more years before it's dead

[@nattythepanda4692]

OSRS is in its most popular state dude, it ain't dying anytime soon.

[@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot]

They already tried that when OSRS was new, and it started dying. We already have proof that your ideas are wrong.

[@Jarod-e1m]

nice little copy and paste video from behemoth channel has been pathetic honestly

[@mad_dog2020]

I have no faith in jagex to perform a combat update. Praying they don’t wreck the game again

[@Suidloc]

ngl, the osrs team clearly lack creativity if this is the only thing they can come up with regarding any form of combat improvements or expansions. These type of updates just make me want to quit the game.

[@nolanrudolph5463]

Suidloc’s last 2 comments on this channel: 1. “This will be abused by clans again…” 2. “Banning 2 million bots doesn’t mean anything…” It’s gotta be exhausting to be so negative my guy, take a chill pill :)

[@gestaltblitz8296]

Idk creativity isn't anything important. What is important is having sensible balance in combat that isn't esoteric and makes sense. The changes to damage values based on what is being used against what allows for a more varied and in depth way of giving incentives to creative gameplay. If creativity was actually what you wanted you would support this change.

[@isgrig210]

cya

[@thatguy6173]

K leave

[@_circuitry_4738]

It's not that, it's just any small qol changes will piss players off

[@JustinsReviewChannel]

I hope this falls through . Why do we keep changing useless ** man. Why are we still voting for stuff years upon years later. Remove voting dont bring nothing new unless its actually new content. Everyone wanted osrs for osrs and youre changing the fundamentals of the game. Leave it alone release pking and pvm updates give us stuff to do. Thats literally all we need what is this extra fruity please everyone BS

[@Relax-ym5hw]

I hope nothing changes we will hate the game

[@hrpreston8881]

Single-handedly ruining all the history this game has ever had. Worst part is it will not be polled. We voted to bring back 07 RS. Not 2024 RS. Just leave our game alone.

[@Lowbottomsteez]

Rip osrs

[@POG..]

The game is going to be ruined lol history rewrites itself even in OSRS this is wild.

[@iced9244]

second

[@nickbmxguy]

No

[@Hycinex]

trying to repeat 2012 in 2024 apparently. Rip osrs... Again.

[@RisingInTheFlesh]

Did you even watch the video

[@tkonlyme]

To much to fast. Game will be broken.

[@Just_Krys]

Doing too much Leave it as it is We didn't need this before we sure as hell don't need it now

[@dbr2829]

haha I see some comments saying its eoc etc. This game is going to decline soon anyways because of gold prices. It is going down and so will the bots and goldfarmers along with it. And im up all for it. You will only have a bit bigger community of true players left just like in eoc servers who play the game only for enjoyment. I wonder what a billion $ company thinks about that.

[@inaworld9850]

Correct. I wonder though how low the gp price has to drop for bots to give up? Surely they are still running at 10c/mil.

[@mickael429]

The updates are really getting too frequent at this point it is kind of triggering playing a game for such a long time just for them to change the core of it all... not a fan

[@ezpzfakie]

i wish old-school runescape stayed old-school instead of a 2012 runescape. everything merroirs 2012/eoc runescape now.

[@GarnitrexGaming]

Including the whiny KZbin comments

[@rekkitrustic2491]

You guys need to grow up, been playing this for close to 30 years, just give it up lmao.

[@GwasTV]

Rip osrs 2024

[@daviddunaway9257]

shit changes from a shit company.

[@lolarmyfreak]

Why do they do weird shit like this

[@okme6998]

This isn't even gonna be RuneScape anymore they've literally changed everything at this point Do they not realize that the game was brought back for nostalgia of playing a game that I grew up on End this game Is changing too much Everything they are trying to change it all it's not OK with me

[@EriconatorV2]

The game would be dead if they didn't add anything, what are you on about And nostalgia can't carry a game for more than like a week

[@kaa2893]

good, we’ve have osrs over 10 years now. it due time for change