OLD SCHOOL VS. MODERN SKATEBOARD

[@doloresberry3144]

idk y but the look and shape of old school boards just look soo sick!

[@sparkey3535]

like the Bart Simpson board

[@rEdf196]

My old school skate board is a 1977 Logan Earth Ski, deck with original Tracker Trucks and Kryptonic wheels which I got new when I was 13 and was my main board up to the 1990's. I still skate to this day in my 50's.

[@mr.jamster8414]

Photos?

[@veronica_sawyer_1989]

Thats so cool man!

[@PerryCodes]

It's so hard because you're trying to do new school tricks on an old school board. Just bust out some boneless pop shuvit no comply hand plant thingermahjabbers!

[@Olly117g]

Perry Codes yeah i agree.

[@davianlomboan2397]

kickflip, tre flip, heelflip, shuvits, etc were invented and performed on that old school board

[@pgestudio75]

Perry's avatar graphic is off of an old school Rob Roskopp board, circa 1986 by artist Jim Phillips.

[@rlunaii]

I'm skating a reproduction Rob Roskopp board. Set up pretty much like the Hosoi board in the video.

[@daft_wizard]

Yes but they were invented by Rodney Mullen who is probably 5 times better than any skateboarder on youtube@@davianlomboan2397

[@slopdssloppyseconds]

That red circle structure in the background is so distracting

[@landonschrameyer9953]

Haha I thought so too

[@mamonsin]

Lol I hadn't noticed it.

[@krisrivera3514]

you made it distracting now thanks lol

[@Ben____1000]

is the best part of the video in fact

[@randombhopcontent8369]

i didn't even notice it till now

[@JakeHoffmansYouTube]

2:15 Most beautiful pop-shove I've ever seen!

[@Iuri_Andrade]

It was high as fuck!

[@OddJames]

yeah like the gravity of his awesomeness sucked the board up into his feet all crouching tiger style much respect! haha cheers!

[@ariekanibalie]

agreed, I was like holy shit, was that the best pop shove ever?

[@upplsuckimcool16]

Yeah man this uy goes big doesn't he... ur right it proly is the best po shov i've ever seen as well.

[@turdl38]

I had to watch it twice just to figure out what trick it was because it looked so sweet

[@devil666ali]

was it just me or is that one of the best pop shuvits ive ever seen, i rewatched that like 100 times

[@hankshraderovic]

The way he catched it

[@vatodivino]

@@hankshraderovic 😂😂😂 the way he english

[@garbage638]

@@vatodivino no he said it right

[@veronica_sawyer_1989]

@@garbage638 it’s caught, but I agree that Vato is a douche

[@MrJPEzra]

As and old dude who just got back into skating thanks for giving us some love for skating the fish boards. The popsicle board had just began to be the seed when I injured myself and ended my skateboarding for six months. I never really skated after that because I had started riding BMX. It's so good to be on a board again.

[@MegaJoeyMC]

btw people.. about the pop shuv it, us old school guys had learn on those monsters, so it was Ollie first...we had to go big. there was no such thing as a pressure flip until the boards got smaller and lighter. so like I would 360 flip huge inconsistently over a garbage can at first... and people be nuts about a kid landing them more often. BUT his board never really got off the ground. I realize this is a year old and no one will ever read it.

[@Sparkywithnathan]

I have one of these boards made by Christian hosoi from my uncle. Is it worth learning on one or should I just buy a new one

[@mr.jamster8414]

@@Sparkywithnathan its the same as a new one but kickflips and ollies are harder to level out. Everything else is the exact same.

[@ericvue1639]

Did anybody else see how high that fucking pop shove it was

[@mctitty]

Like he can't tre flip but can fly to mars with that shuv what the fuck

[@ReidTsingos]

hes secretly luan olivera

[@search895]

Eric Vue We used to call ollie varial that kind of pop shove it.

[@ariekanibalie]

It's just what you're used to, of course. I had a friend who at one point decided to skate only old-skool fishtail boards - he liked the feel and it didn't keep him from having kick flip indies, back heels, three flips and the like on lock.

[@Pandaoniman]

Should have done old school tricks on the old school board.

[@mbeacom21]

I love the old school boards. Harder to trick on but WAY more fun to ride.

[@61936]

agreed but I would say as long as you have a nose and tail it feels about the same as a popsicle after skating it for a bit

[@mbeacom21]

@@61936 I have a hard time finding a popsicle over 8.0. I'm 6'4 and have 14 shoes. 8.0 and even 8.5 just doesn't cut it for me. My old school boards are 10 or 10.3, and have way more tail for carving. They take bigger trucks and bigger wheels and are just more stable and easier for this old guy to land on. Very different experience for me.

[@09numbers09]

That pop shuv was higher than my flatmate

[@JDMricist]

Am I the only one that kept thinking something was circled in the background?

[@Wings_of_foam]

Sculpture

[@Hrethgir]

I started out on a classic board like that back in junior high in the 80's. then i got away from skating for a long time, and just recently got back into it. Just getting used to the new-style boards has been a part of that challenge, lol! Narrower, lighter, lower, and the kicked up nose, so different!

[@iwanttowatchitnowman]

Jonny that hosoi setup is probably worth a lot of money if it's not a reproduction. You should tell your friend to research it. Namaste.

[@canadiansmarties]

it's a newer Santa Cruz board for Christian hosoi not a hosoi deck but I don't know if it's worth anything

[@sadhvacman7238]

The Hosoi Picasso was considered a street deck if I remember right. But, its totally set up for vert. With some 60mm wheels and 1/4" risers, which is more along the lines of a late 80's street set-up, it would be much more manageable. We had no idea we were skating bricks back then.

[@davidcbostic]

those are slime ball wheels and yes theyre still made today

[@val13c59]

The Dangle .. with trucks and that set up, I doubt it’s a hosoi board.

[@benzz4960]

@@davidcbostic not slimeballs, zorlac zombus

[@noctiluque]

2:14 highest pop shove it I've ever seen

[@vazzoxTito]

ik lolol. it was so high, i didnt even know if it was a pop shuv at first

[@stayontrack]

Corey duffel has done a way higher one in one of his old parts

[@thelastdragon3242]

Andrew reynolds, picnic table, flat ground.

[@search895]

those boards werent meant to be used on performing modern tricks. Back then Freestyle (flatground) skaters like Mullen, Mariano or Wellinder used very straight and shorter boards, while the ones like the Hosoi in the video were for vert or old school street style. Not too many flips in those two styles then. This wider and super concave boards were to keeo your feet tight in the board while riding fast and hard or grabbing big air or riding in pools. At early nineties flatground tricks started to mix more with the other skate styles, Rodney Mullen went streetstyle, everybody started to flip in new ways and the boards were meant to flip easier so became narrower. It's hard to flip with that Hosoi board but it's easier to run fast down a street than what it is with a narrower modern board.

[@MrDanielHawes]

A 30 year old board with zero scratches? Something fishy going on

[@ya-rx8nd]

MrDanielHawes Yeah I also noticed. Even at the end of the video I didn't see scratches on the tail. I wonder what it's made of.

[@damienlester2783]

Its made from a rare austrailan tree that is hard to scratch i researched the board

[@KhainzMusic]

Nice to see Thomas still got it, he was one of the first skatboarders in my hometown!

[@troyundroy1]

As an old skater who had a setup similar to the Hosoi deck, this was a very reassuring video. Kickflips were the holy grail back then & took me ages to get. These days kids pick up kickflips in an afternoon!!

[@YetiLord]

i would personally love to see more tricks on old school boards! Great video

[@robertmenjares2045]

I can't stop re watching the pop shuv

[@stevepotterton4421]

Didn't end up mattering, but Thomas had "A"s at 4:41 and 5:18.

[@massageforyoutube9148]

This guys shuvits are higher than my hippie jumps...

[@zibafu]

Bought a powell reissue in 2011, you really had to change how you approached so many tricks since there's no nose, even simple ollies are different since on modern boards you rely on your front foot catching against the nose in the air to level out. Rode it for a few months and filmed a video "part" on my channel with it, lots of fun, watching this makes me wanna set the deck up again haha

[@mr.jamster8414]

How do you level these out? Still havent quite figured it out, although the pop itself is easier on these decks.

[@optiontradergoespro4948]

We called the raiser pads "cell blocks" : )

[@gyromatical]

that Hosoi deck is worth serious $ in that condition. Also, Zombu wheels hell ya. You ripped on that board, keep it up

[@justinschreier2368]

That pop shuv.....

[@LogicJab]

Those risers are HUGE. I have my old school deck set up with longboard trucks and hardware and those risers are even bigger than the ones I have. Crazy

[@BruceCanales]

HA! I skated many boards like that! Bought my first deck in 1988... a Mike McGill! My favorite deck though was the Eddie El Gato H Street. Yesterday I bought a Traffic deck yesterday. Sk8r 4 Life!

[@DJBIGBEN.]

we never used big risers like that for street skating back day

[@troyundroy1]

Thank you for posting! I used to skate the old school boards doing street stuff and wondered how today's riders would go with flip tricks etc. Like trying to flip a damn boat in comparison to today's decks!

[@simonsusername]

he just poped the shit outta that pop shuv

[@CompanionCube]

one or two inches? thats not even one.

[@DeltaInsanity]

I noticed that too. Maybe he meant centimeter

[@danny-jo1rb]

+DeltaInsanity that is like one centimeter

[@iveeltnamkhai7737]

I think he was looking at the gap between the board and wheel

[@DeltaInsanity]

Rich person719 Yeah it is like one centimeter... he said "one or two inches", so if he did mean centimeters, he'd be right, it's about 1cm

[@mrklnmrls]

umm those trucks on the old school board already have risers built in to the base plate. They look like they have about an inch built in to it. The fact that theyre again put on what look like 1 inch risers must give those trucks about a 2 inch rise. That's way too high for the tail to be able to touch the ground and I dont remember anyone from the old school riding their board that high or needing that much wheel clearance. Especially with old school street wheels ranging about 66mm max. Taking the second pair off riser pads off I'm sure will make a world of difference.👍

[@bengalvin9932]

i love that in this digital age we live in with all the fancy gadgets we have it's still as popular/cool as ever to go outside and ride on a peace of wood with wheels on it #SKATE OR DIE 2016!

[@JackPetosa]

The treflip looked sick on that old school board!

[@yhnyves210896]

Hey jonny what pants are those, looks so Comfy to skate

[@UniversalHomeboy]

Something about a cruiser doing a 360 flip is so satisfying

[@netmatrix75]

Where are the compulsory tail guard and rails? hahaha.

[@phrobozz]

He at least needs rails for the full effect :D

[@corbinkanneman1653]

my 200 lbs friend tried jumping and breaking one of these a fuckin variflex and bitch took it one rail snapped because it was already cracked but my boy destroyed his ankles he came back with a hammer and I had to tell him we weren't actually tryna break it just test it 😂

[@rack2646]

1 Inch = 2,5 Zentimeter.. Jonny kauf dir ne Brille ^^

[@JonnyGiger]

japp is ein inch ✌🏼️

[@flater3858]

Stop talking in German guys :o

[@aristide4505]

lol i go down to comment just to see if jonny wrong in the inches.. that raiser pads might be just 1cm or 1and a half

[@heretosupport1337]

Du sprichst deutsch? Ich hab was verpasst >,

[@abeedhal6519]

start speaking in german guy

[@skatetofeelgoodandfeelgood9304]

Wow dude my very first skateboard looked just like that i'll never forget i was only 8 years old it was july of 2002 and one of my mom's friends that owned a store had it high up on a wall and every time i saw it i asked /// begged for it and he sad no!, But somehow i dont know how my mom did it but when i woke up on chrismas and opened up that box there it was and i never looked back now im 22 and still love skateboarding with every bit my heart!. p.s that board really helped me learn mannys and front side pop shoves really really fast but i suck at them now lololollol

[@tyynymyy7770]

I have some friends who ride often with old school boards and they're not actually that bad. I guess it depends on the setup.

[@losingflo]

A grind on that circle in the background would be really cool!

[@paulsmith809]

Risking ankle breaks for our viewing... thank the gods for a scream free video...well done guys.

[@yinyangxperience5137]

This was my generation, last board was a gonzo board with big balls.

[@electricdeckhead3083]

this still is my generation, roskopp eye with oj's and indie's. can't bring myself to ride a popsicle stick

[@artdude8278]

These boards are heavy as heck. 63mm wheels, 3/4" risers(?), a 9" width...

[@menacetosociety8509]

jonny is probably one of my favorite skaters

[@donpettyandthespacefakers1798]

that’s how i feel riding a regular skateboard after 20 something years of not skating the thing is knowing that you have it or used to have it and not being able to do it cause ur body isn’t agreeing with moves you’re making or the skateboard you’re using isn’t complying with you is frustrating

[@InTheFleshInc]

Old School all day...The boards of the early 80's were the greatest.

[@jakeprice-mckenna7845]

Yes

[@InTheFleshInc]

+Patrick Petrie My brother has $20,000 dollars in vintage skateboards his collection is amazing...

[@SPEXWISE]

I still have a powell peralta board and Z Roller trucks with slimeball wheels. It's pretty beaten up though. I was about 10-12 when I last used it, I'm 40 now.

[@bws205]

tricks are much harder but for just riding, carving etc. an old school deck is WAY better, the feel of a modern board simply sucks by comparison

[@kilo393]

fcastle Also feels better when skating vert.

[@sidwellsk8er]

The board is set up terrible, remove the risers that are unnecessary with those trucks and it would've been easier. Those trucks were designed to not require risers.

[@phrobozz]

Back then most kids used risers though (rails didn't even start dying out until probably late in 87). It gave the illusion of having more pop, but it turns out, it just added weight. :(

[@mrklnmrls]

That's too high, even for the old school. It would be so hard to get that tail to touch consistently even for vert I would imagine.

[@Tommyblueeyes]

those trucks did not have built in risers at all..the baseplate is the same height as those on old school indys...U needed risers with 60mm wheels back in the day

[@maxstirner8717]

John Sidwell You ride 64-65 mm wheels, and you will know the need for risers. Those things are really big, and you think you wont need risers - then your wheel digs into your deck, stops, and you fly like a stork.

[@axelfoley5258]

I learned kickflips on an old school board when I was like 15. They were so hard and the older skaters were hating on me.

[@johntoth9150]

Great vid! I think u need to do a part 2! And this is why: 1. Giger needs to adapt an get comfortable with the old school. 2 Get into tricks where bigger wheels and stability is a factor. So for example landing on the old school is less risky. Also street skating in urban environment with more cracks in the pavement. Perhaps then a part 3 Where beginners can learn stuff and feel safer when landing and riding. perhaps grinding also. There u go! Some new ideas ! Well done!

[@MegaJoeyMC]

thanks for the props to us old school guys...we did go pretty damn big on those things back in the day....but they sure as shit were hard to flip around.

[@AlexeiMichalopoulos]

2:15 luan?

[@dod_______]

probably brother Oliveira !!

[@AlexeiMichalopoulos]

:D

[@thomaspatterson1866]

+Alexei Michalopoulos looks like luans switch shuvs

[@allanysalinas7666]

fr

[@ReidTsingos]

LOL TRUE

[@Tommyblueeyes]

Insanely hard lol, these are the boards we were all ollieing and kickflipping in the 80s....

[@gregdawe2786]

Did he just leave the earths atmosphere with that shuv.... holy pop

[@justinthymes5680]

Great vid!!!I started in the '70's,80's were my best days.I had the first McGill,Hawk and many others.They had no concave or nose,flat.And giant/wide wheels.

[@garbagearchive]

Now you know how I felt learning on boards like that for the first 3 years!

[@wagfinpis]

I skated 1988 and earlier. my trucks were looser than that, and I landed a kick flip once in my life. I was not down with that technical stuff, skate hard, go big, go fast, big Ollie's, and wall ride everything when you're not grinding.

[@landerhardy6482]

That pop😳

[@GeezerSkateCo]

Love that old school shape and wheels!

[@kadirbasri]

Jonny should make challenges like this on every other S.K.A.T.E game.

[@johngregory4801]

I got my first board was a plastic 24" Continental. It was 1976. I made the flat tail into a kicktail with a propane torch. First I put Bennet HiJackers on it and Power Paws. Then I got Bruce Logan Model Earth Ski and transferred the trucks over, adding Road Rider #4's. The first laminated wood board was the Santa Cruz FivePly. It came out in '77. Then things got crazy, with Sins TaperKicks and 10" wide boards (then wider). I've got a set of #4's, but that's all that's left of my past other than the scars that won't ever fade. Right now I'm on a 31x 9-3/8 board w/o nose kick with Tracker SixTraks and RatBones. Those riser pads are either 3/8" or 1/3". It's the only way to avoid wheel bite and an unplanned flight.

[@BanesRomance]

flatland tricks on an oldskool styled deck is awesomeness we grew up skating those in the 80s & 90s the modern dbl kick style deck didn't come out until I hit high school

[@levigrenier5862]

so modern skater on an old school board vs old school skater on a modern board. so unfair.

[@Y34RZERO]

My first board was an old school board. I'm getting me a remake of a retro after not skating for about 10 years. Depending on how fast I get comfortable again with riding, I may get me modern board. I had a world industries board in the 90's and started buying blanks after that broke. I feel like I'm starting all over again.

[@constantly-confused5736]

I mean, it had a reason people switched to "modern skateboards" back in the day... that being said, I actually own an oldschool board and really, really enjoy cruising around on it... it is a really smooth ride and (if you compare it to a longboard) well, you can actually do an ollie, which gives you way more possibilities while riding around the city. I never really tried to do flip tricks on that piece of wood though... the weight is really a lot (compared to a modern board), so great respect to Mr. Giger for doing so well on that board...

[@commandZee]

The polymer baseplates on those trucks had a built-in riser pad. Adding another 1/2" riser is excessive, even with 66mm wheels.

[@nedcahhh]

Everyone on Revive is awesome, so glad they all upload vids.

[@fuckoff829]

Aaron Kyro is a Scientologist

[@lucasw158]

Great video! You had the comeback! Almost. Just a friendly heads up, editing mistake at 4:42. it should be just S.K. compare it to 5:20.

[@theBigLubarski_1977]

Holy fuck! I forgot about "risers"! (I skated most of the1980s - all the 1990s...I remember big wheels, big boards (w/short noses), and regular jeans to thin boards with identical nose/tail ratio, and tiny, tiny wheels (jelly rolls, jelly balls), that would get flat spots after a dozen sessions...then those f*cking *HUGE, BAGGY PANTS* (like "JNCO" or any jeans that were 10 sizes too large, with a strong belt and the cuffs cut off! lol)...at least in the early days of "new school skating".

[@piconoma965]

Dat fro tho

[@6demon6gang63]

my board fell in a river a few months back and I lost it so I've only had one of these old school boards that still gets wheel bite even with the riser pads that are on it. and skating it is definitely not the easiest haha happy to be getting a normal board within a month or so here. glad to see I'm not the only one troubled on these things

[@6demon6gang63]

bad wheel bite is what I meant haha if you're not used to the board and even just try to turn you're going flying

[@rfc_sputmop4967]

ever heard of stfu???

[@PerryCodes]

I always replaced the bushings with hard ones to tighten up the trucks.

[@BennyMoose]

ach ja, die wunderschöne Schweiz. Da bekomm ich doch direkt Lust auf eine Tour in die Berge :D

[@Olly117g]

I have a alva board old school and it's amazing to ride and surf on the streets, i like the regular boards because i had many, but i love old school skateboard.

[@dirtyghost9431]

Thomas had 2 times s.k.a

[@pablogarrido1440]

true i noticed it!

[@noobcybot9549]

that's because the first time he was only at k but they put s.k.a

[@cjsherwin6098]

noob cybot95 then they put sa again on the impossible

[@cjsherwin6098]

impossible = trick

[@inot1105]

Great job Jonny. :)

[@locomixer]

i started skating when boards were still like that. my first board was just like that. heavy af. G&S. but then one day i saw someone with frankie hill bulldog and it was sorta shaped like that but it was so light compared to mine. it was instant envy.

[@piranha5084]

Those old school risers are unnaturally thick.

[@ugroove2this1]

that looked fun as hell!

[@used019]

your boys got some SERIOUS pop! Wow!

[@mr.jamster8414]

I like the old style of concave, how the board dips down and the edges are flat, unlike modern where the board is flat and the edges spike up.

[@terratenientesalgo2511]

i got one old school skateboard and it looks like you can do tricks on it, it has enough nose and tail despite the square shape, but what people dont know is that the trucks are full metal, the wheels are really dense and big and the 9 inch deck has more plies than normal and even the grip tape is more like longboard griptape, so this thing is so heavy that just one regular ollie makes me end up sweating, i dont know what was the deal back then, the first skateboards were too small (also have a fiber glass vintage board), and after that they were too heavy and big, i honestly think this heavy board is going to survive me and a few more generations to come.

[@Skamanda]

Don't let your friend fool you! Almost nobody skated with their decks that high! You either used trucks with the same kind of base as modern ones (height wise) and one of those blocks under them, or you skated with the tall base like those, with nothing (or a rubber pad) under them. Personally, I liked the low height trucks with the rubber pad, but I did more skating for transportation than tricks. I still have my old Ray Barbee ragdoll board with the rubber pads under Tracker ultra-lite trucks (plastic bases, but great trucks) at home. I keep meaning to pull it out. It's practically as big as a long board, these days!

[@rickh3714]

Skater Dundee - Call that a skateboard? That's a skateboard! - pulls out a 31 1/2 inch x 11 inch Chris Strople Caster model circa late 1980/early 81 fiberglass ply pig deck with wide Gullwing trucks and green Kryptonics. Still works! Heavy as! Remember doing kickflips and frontside 360's (up to 18 on this one ) as well as concrete halfpipes and downhill! Real good bearings!

[@Chad-fh3su]

Thats a Hosoi mini,Gullwings and some Santa Cruz bullets I believe.that setup is worth a pile of money

[@satanlaffing]

I had that same HOSOI "street Picasso" back in '88-'89.

[@bluesbob]

thomas did ''ska'' two times 4:41 and 5:19

[@xFlow777]

ppl who used to skate those kind of skateboards weren't doing tricks like that lol, power slide was the coolest trick back then lol

[@jakegingrich7214]

Love the videos!! It would be cool if you did a montage of every trick you can do.

[@2dudesonabike]

game of skate only old school board!

[@rhythmtreble7311]

ooh that old board is so clean

[@nicklerma2741]

daaaayum! B.E.Auuutful pop shuv..

[@FranzBely]

Agreed, Bruce Almighty

[@rayklein7486]

That oldschool board is from the vert and bowl riding days,,, it really not meant for doing "flippy tricks" on flat ground ,,,,much too heavy and high off the ground. Yes early street skaters like Natas used oldschool boards very effectively for street skating. The modern skateboard is much better suited for street skating. Interesting comparison. Fun video.

[@davianlomboan2397]

probably a reissue

[@999Burek666]

We called those old school skateboards fish board :)

[@Red1676]

I bet that old setup would be fun in a bowl.

[@amandal558]

Update the hardware, trucks, and bearings and see what happens. These boards were the shit back in the day!

[@pleaseenteraname.5857]

No, that's just an old school walmart board.

[@pleaseenteraname.5857]

***** Dude they did sell mass produced skateboards at k-mart and walmart back in the 80s.

[@pleaseenteraname.5857]

***** That's not a santa cruz board I can assure you that. I know my 80s boards and that's not a santa cruz graphic. All santa cruz boards have the SC or Dot logo. Also, Santa cruz made only a few teamrider boards, and the rest were pro series decks. Also, a board like that wouldn't be set up with plastic trucks and a wheel brand I've never heard of (then only vision, santa cruz/oj, Powell-Peralta (aka Bones), and Spitfire made wheels).

[@pleaseenteraname.5857]

Amanda L BTW skateboards were not that bad back in the day, that board probably came from a toy store or something. People made metal trucks back then. Indy, Venture, and Thunder trucks all existed then as well as today.

[@pleaseenteraname.5857]

***** Hosoi probably liscenced his name to a toy skateboard producer, just like Blind and Darkstar do. Where is the hosoi logo, it's not on the board? Also, tracker never made a colored truck (except black) and the geometry does not match Gullwing trucks. Finally, the rider pads back then stuck out more than the baseplate, but on this toy the riser is smaller, which is common to see on cheap walmart/kmart skateboards. Finally, gullwing and tracker never made plastic trucks. I would know because a few people I skate with have gullwing trucks, and I have tracker trucks, absolutely no plastic on the truck, let alone the whole baseplate being plastic.