Old Town 106 Sportsman Powered By Minn Kota, Full On The Water Review While Fishing In The Kayak

[@YakbassOKC]

This is great video thank you! I was looking at a slayer 10 max, but the this video may change my mind, I like all the room you have.

[@tombosanko3085]

My son suggested that I get the 106 as my first kayack. First is a truck to transport it then the kayack. After watching your review on it, I'm sold on it.

[@tugnut1]

Best kayak video I've seen. For my first kayak, I have a Wilderness System Recon 120. Now I know what I want and it will either be the Old Town 106 Sportsman powered by minn kota or the Old town autopilot 120.

[@RadReelingFishing]

I'd go for the AutoPilot 120. It's a little slower, but the spotlock is a game changer!

[@FISH4FUN158]

Going through your review again did it! 106MK it is :) thanks for everything. Been watching you all these years from the cold northeast(NY). Will be relocating in Bradenton early next year(God willing). Looking forward to seeing you in person. Tight lines

[@SumOneSomewhere]

Nice! The autopilot is 1500 bucks more than this! I can get an anchor wizard and anchor trolly and mount them myself all for less than 100 bucks lol. I think I’m gonna go with this one. Great review, sir!

[@gwddmt1]

*Nice Job JC... Really great visual review... that was well thought out and presented with a good bit of personal experience on the ups and downs... ins & outs & lefts and rights... Pretty sure it will be especially helpful for anyone who was/is considering either of the Yaks we see you fishing... Looking forward to the catch part of this one too...Thanx Buddy and stay away from that Grocery Line Lady...You know she my try and beat you with a 6' 6" Ugly Stik® GX2™* ..gw

[@RadReelingFishing]

Hey GW, where you been lately?

[@BobBohner4851]

Thanks so much. Great vid. Today in Buffalo NY THE WATER IS WARMER THAN THE AIR! Lololol. Air 26. Water 45f. I’m deciding between this boat and 120 Sportsman pedal unit

[@RadReelingFishing]

You are welcome. I just published this video yesterday of a stability demo kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3ewnmiJna6LmKM

[@Jaxdears]

Nice video, I love the kayak videos👍

[@FISH4FUN158]

Finally made it here for good. Hope to bump into you one of these days:) How's your MK106 coz you're using the autopilot more often?

[@dhorne2046]

I know Old Town Kayak definately hooked you up with the two sweet yaks but Im sure you have brought them plenty of business. Wise move Old Town Kayak. JC should be getting a sales comission! Love the video man

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for commenting. This is the third kayak within a year I've received from the company. I truly am grateful for the generosity Johnson Outdoors has extended in my direction They sought out me not vice versa. I wholeheartedly believe in going the extra mile and intend to continue doing so in my representation of Old Town kayaks. The crazy thing about me is I've been promoting Penn reels for over two years now with zero commission from their company. I contacted them through email informing them of my promotion of their products and never received a response back, not even a thank you...I do get a very small payout from Amazon if someone purchases a Penn reel through an affiliate link, enough to buy a few shrimp... When I find a good product I will freely share my findings on this channel. Old Town has helped me take my fishing experience and video adventures to a much higher level. I enjoy working with them and have never felt as though I am deserving of anything more than what I have been offered. On the subject of commissions...Old Town sells kayaks through Amazon. I do have Amazon affiliate links connected to Old Town kayaks. So, yes I am able to get a commission that way. Thanks for being a faithful subscriber.

[@stevehogan8829]

Haha love it... Great hook up JC. If only we could train those Rays, we wouldn't need the Minn Kota. ....Sweet JC. Thank you Sir.

[@stevehogan8829]

I think I already told ya Sold my 120 Auto and purchased a new 106 PBMK..Like it a bunch. Easier for me to load, unload and maneuver.

[@Balauie]

Got to be a Jack... waiting waiting... Meh, stingray. Still fun though. Nice camera action on the turning example. That information about the seat is very important. Also I'm kind of glad that just stearing will give my legs a bit of a workout. I'm sure it's nothing like having to pedal. JC, You are becoming my main go to for Kayaks and local fishing. I sure do appreciate your uploads. Thanks.

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching, and for the kind words. I am glad the videos are helpful. Thanks for commenting.

[@albertojhernandez169]

Can you do a video of someone getting off and on? I'm thinking of getting one for diving off of. Snorkeling to.

[@frankiev-tech4630]

Man that kayak is awesome! I'm impressed of how stable and efficient it is for battery power. Definitely want my first buy to be one of those. Thanks for this video...very cool!

[@RadReelingFishing]

I am totally amazed at the stability this hull design provides. People can tell you it's stable and demonstrated it in a video, but until you actually fish out of one you and feel how stable it is you'll never really get the full feeling of what it's like. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@josevega5982]

Thanks for the video JC, awsome you have the best attitude and descriptions to inform ur fans about 106 product bote with excellent motor. How much does it cost to general public and how long the warranty.

[@RadReelingFishing]

you can get all the info here: bit.ly/oldtown_sportsman_radreeling

[@bobgomavitz1330]

Well put together

[@lanceoa]

First time seeing the sheepshead! Good eating I’m guessing?

[@lrosario7164]

JC, big fan here. I'm totally hooked with your videos. And thanks to this one, I was able to convince my wife to let me buy the sportsman 106. Lol.. Thanks for the video. I was wondering which battery you had on your 106 and where you bought it. Also, which accessories you had on your 106. And trying to have mine fully loaded like yours. 😁 Thank you again for the videos. Thumbs up👍👍👍

[@RadReelingFishing]

Sorry for the late reply. My battery is a 105 amp hr 27 class marine/rv. I paid $100 for it at Advanced Auto Parts. Here's my kayak gear video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g37FeJqQebWmoJo

[@timothyeubanks6364]

Hey JC, I take it that the battery you're using is leadacid 105 amphour? I would love to find a lithium ion 105 amphour battery for 100$ hahaha. I just purchased the 106 powered by MK haven't has it on the water yet still working on getting it outfitted. Thank you for sharing your information👍🏾

[@nickstyles6411]

Nice i need to get one

[@rickybobby2769]

You are Awesome Brother!!!

[@ericpaulsen8968]

The steering capabilities in forward and reverse really has nothing to do with the motor. It steers wide in reverse because the rudder is in the back. Just thought I'd clear that up for you.

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching. Here, check out the turning on the AutoPilot 120 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWK2m4GOptiKsKM WOW, game changer!

[@Kevinw4040]

Great video man. Maybe I missed it but where is the battery go? I didn’t see room behind the seat with 2 coolers. Also I was thinking if you need to give feedback to old town on it maybe suggest a left hand control option. Then you have right hand free for the pole. Just my 2 cents.

[@RadReelingFishing]

The battery is under the seat. Watch this video for everything you may have missed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4OVnKuvg7SJa80

[@jayjohnson9668]

Sounds like someone is really really looking for a sponsorship deal😎

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching. I'm still wonder if sponsorship means someone pays you to promote their products or just gives you their products to use. What do you think sponsorship means?

[@jayjohnson9668]

Both

[@charlesmorgan2309]

Thank you for another great video!!

[@RadReelingFishing]

You are welcome. Quality products deserve quality videos for sure.

[@FrankCavallaro-kr5wf]

Question: How to you deal with the rudor when bringing in the kayak to shore? I know you have to raise the motor prior to the shore line but doesn't the rudor drag the bottom and if so... how to you rase the rudor to bring the kayak all the way on to the shore?

[@RadReelingFishing]

The rudder pivots up automatically when it hits bottom. There's a lever on the side that raises and lowers the rudder. I time-marked this unboxing video that I made so you can see the lever kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4OVnKuvg7SJa80si=-qG7G_9hOu3F4tZD&t=718

[@dm1927]

I want one thanks for the video.

[@sarwatahmed3850]

Awesome review!!!!

[@NotedPine]

Try using a right handed baitcaster. Rod if left hand, throttle in right.

[@donpineau4780]

Any rumors of a 106 autopilot I think that would rock!

[@RadReelingFishing]

None whatsoever. Thanks for watching.

[@saltyjose]

Awesome video!

[@Fishing_With_Essex]

I think I've finally gone crazy enough, I'm saving up for this kayak

[@dominikjericho5749]

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[@cadenmilo8652]

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[@noeterry6637]

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[@dominikjericho5749]

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[@cadenmilo8652]

@Dominik Jericho no problem xD

[@chrisbennett8538]

I assume it has a anchor??

[@jiritoman7563]

Awesome video, thank you!

[@garymcnabb7527]

I’ve been a Hobie kayak fisherman for many years but swapped out for a 17’ new motor boat. Guess what? Getting in and out of a motor boat without a dock is a pain. You also need two people to hit the water if there is no dock and up here in Mass the availability of docks and trailer parking is extremely limited. I returned the motor boat. Now I’m looking for an electric motor kayak. Maybe I’ve found it. One question. I fly fish and stability is extremely important. Is this yak stable enough to fly fish from? Thanks

[@RadReelingFishing]

The kayak is very stable, but I really think stability when standing is relative to how well a person can balance themselves too. The kayak is very hard to flip, but when standing and with body movements it has some wobble to it when weight is shifted left to right...

[@rapdfyr1]

wonder if there is a way to integrate a foot pedal control for throttle forward/reverse ?

[@josephpecoraro2788]

What are the pros and cons of the 106 in ruff waters I seriously going to buy an Old Town kayak but want to make sure I'm buying the right one also I'm a Certified Diver so is someone have a video ( review) for a fisherman/ diver also JC where do I buy the accessories for the 106. Any helpful information thanks. appreciated appreciated

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching. This is a super stable kayak, but just know that stability is always relative to the user's ability to balance when standing up. Here are some vids related to your inquiries. Stability here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3ewnmiJna6LmKM Rough water here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3q7ZaBont1-b5I Accessories here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g37FeJqQebWmoJo

[@losoutdoorsfishing7672]

Would you take it off shore

[@RadReelingFishing]

Only on a super calm day.

[@BobBohner4851]

Why o only on a super calm day? Can it handle 2’ waves on the way home if it kicks up?

[@AutoKorrect]

Does this Minn Kota have the spotlock feature? If not, is there a way to swap it out for one? This version seems like a better option than the 120 or the 136 because although it's a bit smaller, it's nearly $1500 cheaper which mean i can put that cost towards a Lithium battery, Hummingbird fish finder, bunch of GoPro stuff, gear, rods, etc.

[@RadReelingFishing]

The 106 Sportsman Powered By Minn Kota doesn't have spot lock technology. No, the motors are not interchangeable. The 106 Sportsman Powered By Minn Kota is an excellent fishing vessel. As you saw in the video, it's possible to use the electric motor in current and wind to somewhat lock into a general area to fish. Please don't hesitate to ask more questions. Thanks for watching.

[@andikaloveketapang5164]

Mantap

[@BobBohner4851]

L love the review and the battery life info. . Sometimes i get out ona lake and the wind kicks up on the lake with 2’ waves. Would you be comfortable navigating it in those waves? Thanks

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching. No I would not. I always look to the weather reports, wind speed, check current radar conditions before I go kayak fishing. I've been kayak fishing for about a year now and due to my looking ahead at the day's weather I've avoided any type of conditions you are describing. With that said, rolling waves are different than white cap choppy waves. These yaks are very low to the water. Slow rolling waves can be handled, high wind white caps would produce a very wet and possibly cold unpleasant experience, at least in my opinion. Years ago I fished on a lake almost every weekend that was seven miles across. I had a 12' long boat with a 9.5 motor on it. That lake would produce the kind of waves you are talking about. I NEVER went fishing in bad conditions and if I saw a storm in the distance that posed danger, I'd head to the house immediately. I'd tell anyone to avoid finding themselves in bad weather conditions in a kayak. Be smart out there and use common sense always. I hope this helps...Thanks for commenting.

[@BobBohner4851]

I always wear rain gear or a dry suit when I paddle. Getting wet is not the problem for me. I am concerned about the stability of the craft to handle waves and not dump me in the water multiple times. Thanks for your response

[@RadReelingFishing]

@@BobBohner4851 I published a stability demo video on this kayak yesterday. You can see it here Bob: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3ewnmiJna6LmKM

[@brianrichard1768]

nice vid, interesting kayak. I run an outback but this looks sweet. Do you trailer it?

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching. I car top mine.

[@bryanread8483]

What’s the best wheel system to mobile to the water

[@RadReelingFishing]

I haven't used many. This one I don't like it also doesn't fit the hull of the 106 sportsman hull or the autopilot hull. amzn.to/3PMpp03 I use this one now, but it has some issues with connecting bolts and clips rusting. Even with that issue, I do like the way the cart performs. Although, it's pretty expensive. amzn.to/3Vmi62y

[@katiemaneen131]

Thanks for your video! Question on the battery. Would you mind sharing what kind you bought and what kind of charger you have for it? I'm waiting for my 106 to come in and I'm going back and forth on what battery to get. Thanks for any suggestions!

[@RadReelingFishing]

Here's the link to the battery I purcahsed: shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/autocraft-marine-battery-group-size-27m-675-cca-27hm/10890145-P?searchTerm=group+27+marine+deep+cycle

[@katiemaneen131]

@@RadReelingFishing Thank you so much! Just bought one. Can't wait to get my boat! Your videos were extremely helpful in pushing me to get the 106 so thank you!

[@RadReelingFishing]

@@katiemaneen131 Thanks for letting me know. I can only imagine how excited you are, woo hoo! I'm sure Old Town would appreciate a review on their website after you put it to good use.

[@katiemaneen131]

@@RadReelingFishing Absolutely will! I have an Old Town Heron 9xt so this is going to be a huge upgrade for me. Just happy to stay in the Old Town family!

[@jacksonturner8631]

make some vids ill watch em!!

[@daleaturner6797]

You go boy

[@mrb401]

Bare hull weight is about 75? Could car top this overhead directly on crossbars you’d think. Also, what cart if any are you using for this?

[@RadReelingFishing]

I car top mine with foam blocks, I'm not sure about crossbar ratings. This is the best cart for sure: amzn.to/2QhcPK3

[@mrb401]

@@RadReelingFishing Thanks for the fast reply! Forgot to ask, being on the shorter side, does it get pushed around in good wind and currents?

[@RadReelingFishing]

@@mrb401 I never felt inconvenienced while fishing in wind or current.

[@timothydavey7569]

Out of curiosity, how long does it take you to get everything in the kayak and into the water, from your vehicle? Do you drive a car, SUV, truck? How much do kayaks with that electric motor cost (on average) vs. Pedal drive kayak? I saw on their website around 2500 for the lowest end one. That's a pretty good deal! Did you get yours for cheaper?

[@RadReelingFishing]

It takes me about a half hour on average to get everything unloaded and set up to go fishing. I car-top mine on a 2000 Toyota Solara coupe. My kayak is brand new. As far as an average price on kayaks, I'm not in the kayak sales business and have no idea. All I know is the Old Town kayaks are awesome. I've owned three of them and have loved them all.

[@timothydavey7569]

@@RadReelingFishing that's awesome though. Worth an hour and a half honestly. Just have to get to your launching area a little early 😁👍. I'm really considering buying a kayak, but I am not sure which type is best. The Old Town ones seem to be excellent and fair priced. I drive a Jeep Patriot, and I would have to roof it as well.

[@RadReelingFishing]

@@timothydavey7569 Only a half hour to unload. If you have roof racks it will be quicker. I use foam blocks. Here's a video of my system of hauling the kayak kzbin.info/www/bejne/o53GdnmFppifers

[@HendersonHookin]

105 AH? what kind of battery and where did you get it please. I just ordered one of these

[@RadReelingFishing]

Old Town has a new video about batteries here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ-oeHuaoMR4rNU I purchased a lead/acid, class 27, 105 amp hour marine battery.

[@CaliforniaOutdoorsman]

Can't find it either

[@Jaxdears]

Is the seat comfortable in the old town topwater 120 pdl? I heard from other you tubers that it’s not

[@RadReelingFishing]

The Topwater 120 PDL seat has bottom and back fabric adjustments for firmness. Yes, I thought the seat was comfortable. I used to fish out of mine for 8 to ten hours in a day and never thought I was uncomfortable due to the seat. Now granted, there isn't any cushy padding on it. Maybe it's not so comfy, but I was just so focused on reeling in fish that I didn't notice, ha ha...

[@shark619ify]

Hey got a quick question about the throttle, I guess they are made super sensitive because I can just tap mine and it will speed up slow down etc. Is it supposed to click or anything to let you know its in neutral ? The only way I can tell is by sliding it in the middle and looking at my fish finder at my speed. In your video you are using the butt of the rod to move the throttle around and I thought I heard a click or that could just have been the rod hitting it. On another note the reverse on it works great compared to the mounted motor i used on old 106 Kayak. I drifted up into some grass and didnt want to get hung up in it so I popped it in reverse and it pulled me right out of muck without a problem.

[@RadReelingFishing]

When you put the throttle in neutral you should clearly be able to tell it's in that position. In the video it's very evident that there's a solid neutral position with a slight click sound and a minor locking in place of the handle. I time-marked the video for you so you can watch it again: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXWTiqOJqdl5hdk

[@shark619ify]

@@RadReelingFishing I`ll check it out when I go out Friday maybe I just wasnt paying attention to it, it was only my second trip since I have had it. I was out for like four hours and was just stunning I think I tried pinching myself to make sure I wasnt dreaming..LOL

[@shark619ify]

@@RadReelingFishing I`ll be going out tomorrow but Ijust checked it without the motor or battery plugged in and there is is no clicking or anything when its centered it feels the same all the forward and back and middle. Maybe I should contact old town about it. It doesnt seem to be causing an issue but it would make it easier to know that i am actually in idle.

[@shark619ify]

@@RadReelingFishing Yeah so if I pay attention there is a small ping but not a click I can just barely hear and feel it when i put it in neutral.

[@RadReelingFishing]

​@@shark619ifyI found another video where I was trouble shooting the 106 when I didn't have a battery connection. You can clearly hear the click of the throttle control. I time-marked it for you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4fFY5SKeJWCabs

[@roguesrt]

Great review but why does it have to be registered?

[@RadReelingFishing]

In Fl. electric motor vessels must be registered.

[@roguesrt]

Well I live in Lakeland so I guess I get to experience this first hand lol thank you for the info!

[@Hunter__14]

are you able to replace the motor drive with the pedal drive if need to ?

[@king4brisbane]

Great question! I wanna know too

[@ericporter2373]

@@king4brisbane you can not

[@carlosbeltran3194]

JC YOU HAVE AND Awesome 👍 personality keep up the good work make more snook fishing video

[@oceanstatebassfishing]

Awesome video! I just purchased my Sportsman 106 PDL, did I make the wrong purchase? 😂🤣😅

[@RadReelingFishing]

The PDL kayks from Old Town are awesome. You're going to love it.

[@DavidBdHer]

Hey I have a 75 AH battery, how long do you think it will last?

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for watching. This motor is rated for a 27 class battery. Make sure you're using the correct one. I don't know how long yours will last. I have a 105 amp.

[@HBeretta]

how does standing up in this compare to the 120 stability wise?

[@RadReelingFishing]

Thanks for asking. You probably found the answer already within the video. Here's my stability video on the 106 Sportsman as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3ewnmiJna6LmKM

[@HBeretta]

@@RadReelingFishing yes thank you...got ahead of myself there. Great vid(s) by the way. Any experience with the Native Slayer Max 12.5?

[@GreenJamSkater]

Link to your battery please !

[@RadReelingFishing]

I purchased it from Advanced Auto Parts. It's a 27 class marine battery, 105 Amp Hr. I paid about $100 for it.

[@michaelmorgan4260]

Hi, I am thinking about buying an old town 106. I am worried about the seat. Have you ever felt the battery box under your butt? Is it comfortable?

[@RadReelingFishing]

The seat is taught enough that it doesn't touch the battery box. Thanks for watching.

[@josevilleda791]

I want this but I drove a Nissan altima would it work

[@RadReelingFishing]

Here's what I do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o53GdnmFppifers

[@benruthlessburger8905]

Awesome video

[@ivancamp7716]

You shouldve shown how you got on it.

[@davidcrowson4745]

Sooooo cooooooolllll!!!!!!!!

[@KJMFISHING]

How does it paddle if you needed to?

[@RadReelingFishing]

I haven't paddled much, only to do some quick maneuvering when the electric motor didn't suit. Having the foot pedal ruder controls I'm sure will help tremendously if I ever have to paddle a long distance.

[@KJMFISHING]

@@RadReelingFishing - Thanks! Do you know if these are legal is kayak tournaments?

[@rickhale6396]

how hard is to load and unload?

[@RadReelingFishing]

It's a good workout. Watch this video please kzbin.info/www/bejne/o53GdnmFppifers I use the exact method.

[@anthonydelanzo4249]

Like the review better than that ray. Lol

[@Jragustin90]

Use sand fleas for the sheepshead cheaper then shrimp

[@RadReelingFishing]

I agree. All of the beaches are closed though, can't get any now.

[@420RyanBruce]

....the pedal kayaks don't have spot lock...so Old Town wins hands down for fishing.

[@huyleduc2697]

Can I ask how much is the kayak?

[@RadReelingFishing]

You can get the pricing on Old Town kayaks here: bit.ly/oldtown_sportsman_radreeling

[@huyleduc2697]

Thank you so much

[@larrykelley1818]

How much do they run

[@RadReelingFishing]

You will get an accurate price here: bit.ly/oldtown_sportsman_radreeling

[@russdennis7026]

If this had spot lock I would buy it.

[@RadReelingFishing]

Look at this one: oldtowncanoe.johnsonoutdoors.com/old-town-sportsman/fishing/sportsman-autopilot-120

[@russdennis7026]

@@RadReelingFishing Too big for what I want. I really like how compact this one is.

[@s.stallone5350]

@@russdennis7026 It is not as compact as you think it is. You have to see it and handle it in person to appreciate just how big it is. It's very heavy at 104lbs and that's without the battery. I would suggest to demo one.

[@JD-hs7ib]

Make sure you are staying 6 feet away from those fishy !!!!!!

[@RadReelingFishing]

Ha ha...some lady in the grocery store the other day in the line turned around, gave me an ugly look, pointed at me and said "six feet". I laughed, said I did cabinet work for years and I estimate I'm 6' 3" away from you. She then glared at me with an even meaner look. Shheeesssa.

[@JD-hs7ib]

FL chix are crazy as heck. LMAO

[@gwddmt1]

@@RadReelingFishing *Well JC... maybe the Lady at the G Store think that keeping two yards between you and her means two residential lots of separation?* ..gw

[@whatisthis9495]

I’d rather it do a slow turn in reverse than put me in the bushes

[@suarez__fishing2178]

When do we get offshore vids bro

[@RadReelingFishing]

Not sure. I'll have to connect with some offshore kayak fishermen to do that and at the moment I don't know anyone.

[@dhorne2046]

JC put that idea out there in your next video...let the channel network for you

[@markfisher8549]

Worse Kayak ever! I own one DO NOT BUY ONE! You have been warned!

[@markfisher8549]

Take that kayak over 6 knots and it will FILL full of water! Where the engine goes in! It acts like a water collector. I have replaced the sit the Foot pattle. Iv replaced the power control 2x, The Right cable in the first year of ownership! You have to buy the drain plugs And if you read the warranty it suxs Im very unhappy with mine Been trying to sell it for 6 months! This Kayaks SUX Yes it will hold alot! But it will not hold up over time! The foot steering system points up! And when you're in the seat your feet point down! A change of 2 to 3 in a change in angle alone would make a huge improvement! And backing up Yes turning no! I added a gas eng and I can not go faster than 6 knots the Boat fills with water and the faster you go the worse it gets! to a point it will brake your LOCK holding the mount in place! I have approached Old town many times about this flaw. They totally ignore me! At least they send all the parts including a chair which is made in CHINA And now the warranty is up and the Power controller is out for the 3rd time! And its coming out of my pocket!