Old versus new Street Triple - Comparing the 2017 Street Triple RS with the 2012 Street Triple R

Old versus new Street Triple - Comparing the 2017 Street Triple RS with the 2012 Street Triple R : In this video I take a detailed look at the features, design and functions of the new Street Triple RS and compare them with the 2012 Street Triple R. Is the new bike better in every way? Stay tuned to find out!
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[@cyndeeandstevelinde2810]

So refreshing to hear someone with an opinion. Motorcycling journalist now days seem to have lost this ability. They seem to simply reharsh the companies press release, providing the public with very little insight into what the bike is like in the real world. I hope Triumph appreciate your upfront and honest evaluation. it is what is needed. An opinion is a good thing, it leaves us all free to agree or disagree, but most of all it has given us cause to think. Many thanks.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you very much - I aim to please!

[@VeeFour]

absolutely correct. Professional moto journlists want to keep their access to manufacturers, so they will always tone down any critisisms that they have and invariably you end up watching an extended advertisement/music video for the bike rather than an objective review. This is why guys like TMF, provide a vital service in giving us riders the actual real world low down on a bike, and so help us make better choices when it comes time to pull up a chair with the dealer.

[@nnaguib1]

Don't you just hate it when that rectangular drop of water drops on the lens every time you're going 60? Horrible british weather! Great video as always thanks!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

:0)

[@nnaguib1]

Cheers mate thanks for sharing.

[@andrewwillcox5252]

Yeah it's so annoying but fortunately it is a very localised blur, blocking nothing of importance.

[@andrewwillcox5252]

Yeah it's so annoying but fortunately it is a very localised blur, blocking nothing of importance.

[@jackstandjunkieshaul-n-oat5079]

Why do people comment about "horrible British weather", or "horrible British Food" when they probably have never experienced either?

[@mriegger]

Great vid. Honestly talking about bike aesthetics is far more interesting to me than talking about BHP and electronics.

[@SJCB27]

You are spot on with the looks comparison... Very good example of Hutber's Law. I, for one, really appreciate your intelligent, profanity-free, grown-up reviews. And the lack of hideous background music. Thank you again for taking the trouble to post. KR, Buzz.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you very much Buzz - always gives me a smile to see your name crop up in the comments....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

PS just googled Hutbers Law....must remember that one!

[@Overtorange]

One thing I seriously enjoy more on the 2012 is the dash. I love analogue needle tachometers. I think they are akin to an excellent looking time keeping piece. I seriously hate these new tft displays that are coming out.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I’m with you there Yoshi!

[@johnschlesinger2009]

I agree totally. Bought a Street Triple R last year, has the analogue tacho. This year it has tft 😢

[@kidda74]

Black and gold, I bet you loved the 80's! ;)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yup...

[@Winkles.]

Can't get enough of your reviews, you have a magnificent speaking voice. Plus you're a great salesman! I've been riding an EX500 for the past three years and have been thinking about what to get next for quite some time. Your reviews have really helped influence my decision. Hate seeing reviews of riders talking only about speed and wheelie-ability, just not how I ride. Thanks so much for the great work!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Connor!

[@leeallen8840]

What a brilliant video. I love the side by sides you do. No one does this yet it is so helpful. Particularly, if a potential buyer like myself, is deciding to buy a new model or save a few quid and buy the previous model. Thank you!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to be of help!

[@sleepyjessie]

Completely agree with you on this. I would love the upgraded hardware of the newer bikes, but aesthetically, I absolutely love my 2009 model. I'm kind of sad that they no longer do that lovely yellow logo on the tank too!

[@dvnam]

I’ve got the 2010 R with the signal yellow logo - it’s the same one Angelina Jolie rode in SALT - I love the bug eyes rather than the Edna Everage’s!

[@jonathanjackson7047]

I agree, I have a 2005 speed triple and the whole look of the bike is much better than either of these two models. The new models try to look overly slick and it just doesn't work. It's gradually losing the streetfighter aesethic.

[@williamduckworth305]

I am 63, I've grown up around Brit bikes. BSA, Triumph, Norton, Vellocete, Vincent, and Ariel. My father collected and sold examples of all I just named. I personally own a coupke of trumpets. So I'm thinking of parting with 1 of them and maybe get a speed triple. Don't really care if not a new one. I just want it for some nice,fun brisk rides through the Georgia mountains. W/0 antique electrics and kick starting. Always loved the old trident and rocket 3 motors so mabey a speed triple or a sprint...thank you fir your great vid.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you for watching William - and enjoy those mountains!

[@prasannamishra6818]

Honest and personal review. Always appreciated.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Prasanna

[@118willfitz]

Another great video , I think your bike is the best of the two , sounds absolutely gorgeous

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Will :0) I'm not saying it's the best, but I prefer it, put it that way...

[@secondhandbiker]

I love the way you compare these bikes. Great show overall. The black and gold is stunning, especially with the arrow.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I agree Edmund - thanks for watching!

[@wayne_kurr]

Thanks for the videos. Considering buying a 2012 R model now as they’re such good value.

[@SMU_3L]

Loving the new logo :D Can not wait to get my A2 street triple S :D Delivery in August. Passed my A2 mod 1 today :D

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Brilliant - well done Samuel and welcome to biking!

[@jimbo1485]

Very good thanks for the comparison. I have had my 2012 street triple r since new and still love it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You an me both then :0)

[@benjaminkaretnick3731]

Really appreciate your reviews--all very practical, thorough, and fun!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Ben, glad you think so :0)

[@rudolfmiranda3598]

Great Review! Thanks! We had a Street Triple 2011, and are currently looking to buy a 765 R. We also own a Tiger 1050 Sport and a Daytona 955i, and love your comments on both bikes!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cool!

[@martynh4407]

Bit late In on this but what a brilliant review…these kind of reviews work so much better than “it’s a weapon around the track “ reviews..cheers Andy

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Martyn, I'm glad you think that!

[@Mkjackary]

Sound is really good in this video mate, top quality as always.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks :0)

[@siralbar]

Just bought a really mint condition stock Street Triple R Black/Gold 2012 at 2535KM odometer. I guess it is not a wrong decission to pick the old one rather than the new one. Thanks for your video mate! You are the only source i had

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well done - great purchase!

[@jasontietnan5447]

Great review,made an easy decision easier, just get 1 of em and I'd be extremely happy

[@darthvisor9289]

Bought a 2010 two weeks ago. Brilliant Bike, love it

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes they are great aren't they...all of them...

[@SurfMusicGoodstuff]

Love youre reviews man, always detailed .... honnest. totaly agree on the looks, can’t beat black/gold... next sunday gonna look at a secondhand 2012. Keep up the good work

[@spetersonmusic]

Really interesting contrast and compare. I own a 13 Street Triple R in matte gray and I LOVE the looks; I am more attracted to the "R" version for 2018 than the colors offered on the RS version (more the red subframe for the rear vs. silver than anything else).. Like TMF, I am a massive fan of what I already have so there's no urge to get a new bike for me however I am at the same time very interested to stay up on the current offerings and it is content like this that speaks directly to me. Thanks for doing what you do; I along with many others value it very much.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks as ever Scott - and yes that black and red scheme is a looker, if I were going for a Streetie now I think the "R" may be the way to go for that alone...

[@cs1375]

I have a 2014 Triumph Street Triple in Cosmic Green. It has the under slung exhaust and ABS. Old bike looks better. I like that TFT screen. When I bought my bike I watched a ton of videos and as far as naked bikes it was pretty much the king in every video.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes and still is as far as I'm concerned!

[@MrBoybergs]

Excellent and really enjoyable video. A proper comparison by a biker for other bikers; packed full of answers to questions we'd all be asking. The most fitting compliment I can pay you is that in my opinion you're the finest reviewer of motorbikes since Jeff Stone who also knew instinctively what details other bikers would want to know about the machine he was talking about.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Wow, that's very kind of you to say - thank you....

[@guzzinyc1521]

Just the review a lot of us wanter! Thank you!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You're welcome...

[@rontrose]

I have a 2018 Street Triple R. I have a Remus slip on, bespoke heated grips, sliders, blah blah. All came with it. That said, I had my eye on a 2012 when the other came up. He has to get rid of it and it already had the upgrades for just 1k more (US). I picked it up for 7k US, with 2.5k on the clock. It just my fave bike ever and I’ve been riding for 30 years. All that said, the 2012 is a better looking bike, no doubt about it. I have the black gloss paint and it’s brilliant, but the real difference is the black chassis on mine is just sublime. It will always be more capable than me and is super confidence inspiring. All graft machines and the sun will be our Wednesday. Thanks again for being so comprehensive. Your bike looks amazing!!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Ron, and thanks for watching!

[@jamesh2650]

I just sold my modified 2005 Speedie (in gloss black and gold). It was very similar looking to your 2012. I agree with with your opinion on the tail ends. So I have recently purchased a 2017 Speedie (S) to overcome the tail end issue. It is gloss black and I am painting the rims gloss gold. I have fitted twin SC-Project "silencers" which sound superb. I feel the Triumph management team should be patted on the back for producing such beautiful machines, I and my daughters love them.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yep - I think the sales figures are pat on the back enough, seems Triumph are going from strength to strength - a great British success story!

[@viktoriol]

I stopped at a service on M1 just to see the new vid and it did not disappoint! :) I prefer the look of the new bike on the front and the front-side department, but the old one definitely better on the rear side. Since I'm a rather big chap (6' 5), I look a bit.. funny on these, but perhaps if the 2018 Speed Triple will come with the TFT, will keep the under-seat exhausts and if they just make it lighter, to at least match the Superduke, I will be hyped as never before. Thanks!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Great stuff...and you may be right about the Speedy...let's wait and see!

[@djwarren5081]

Saw a photo of a white 765 Street Triple R the other day. Very nice!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes it works in white to doesn't it :0)

[@farazbaber7239]

In most parts a fair and helpful review. Thorough and well thought out vlog. I agree about the paintwork and plumped for the glittery black 765RS but agree the stickers and red lining aren't the best looking and would have also preferred the classic black with gold rims mix. As for the arrow can - not sure it has made much of difference on mine - the joys of regulations

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes sadly it seems the optional cans on today's Triumphs are constrained by regs - I recently rode a Vance and Hines equipped scrambler back to back with a standard one and I couldn't tell any significant difference! ....you couldn't even remove the baffle from the V&H pipe as it was welded in!!

[@farazbaber7239]

TheMissendenFlyer indeed, the EU arrow can is welded in although the Triumph website shows a non EU compliant one as an option - whether U.K. Dealers fit them and leave this at your peril come MOT is another matter - but the removable baffle option is there - just not sure it's worth the agro. Great if you could do a Ducati cafe scrambler review at some point - you know the one that looks like a themed JPS set up.

[@stizzygrayson5541]

The best 'real world' bike reviewer for the everyday rider, end of.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Stizzy - very kind of you to say so...all the best - TMF

[@brandonramirez9318]

GREAT COMPARISON VID! I instantly subscribed! 🤩

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you - welcome along!

[@aGentleUser]

I've ridden the 2019 RS, great bike, and the sound is best for me, but not because of muffler but because of the suction noise in the airbox. But yes the look of the 2012 back is niceer.

[@iamspartacus8219]

I've got a 2010 Striple R in black and gold with twin arrows, twin round chromes, the triumph ohlins rear shock and a quickshifter and I wouldn't swap it for anything. It's just a gorgeous bike and over time will appreciate in value. Couldn't agree more with your comparison.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one Gary - is the Ohlins rear from a Daytona then? I didn't realise they were available for the older Street's....might have to look into that...

[@iamspartacus8219]

TheMissendenFlyer I looked for ages because I knew it was an option. It's purely for the earlier Streets and not from the Daytona. Anyway to cut a long story short, go on the website A1 moto Triumph. They've got them in stock under they're parts page £549

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good call - thank you....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Oh and one other question - do you think the Ohlins are good value for money?

[@iamspartacus8219]

TheMissendenFlyer That's a hard one to answer, I'm not a track rider, but really got it because it's a premium unit and it was available as an option. It also looks damn cool on a black and gold bike as opposed to the blue one. It's like anything in life, you get what you pay for and Ohlins are arguably the best. On my Trumpet Scrambler I put Bitubo Italian shocks on the rear and they are very good also. I think in the end if you love your bike, you'll want the best on it, hope that helps. Did you find it on the site?

[@neilthaxter9800]

Great video (as always). I love my 2013 R, glad I'm not missing out too much on the new ones. 😁

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I don’t think you’re missing anything with regards to fun of the ride...

[@trevorhill5848]

Give me the 2012 model anyday, especially for the sound. Great video.

[@HassChapman]

The back end of the 2017 RS looks more or less like my old 2015 RX which I loved. This is massively better than the dated look of the 2010 Triple I had before that. I also had the matt silver paint on my RX and I love this colour. It's also very practical here in Southern Spain! I do agree with you on the headlights though.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Hass - enjoy the sunshine (lucky man!)...

[@BC-hy1kk]

I don't even own a bike, but really enjoyed the review. Good, informative, video, about the things that would matter to me. Maybe I will get one?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Go for it - you know it makes sense!

[@justforkicks6755]

@@TheMissendenFlyer 6 foot 220...beginner. Too much bike?

[@1973mk1capri]

You can't go wrong with a classic black and gold paint scheme, (JPS) 😊would make the 2017 look even better!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You're right there!

[@comfysofa1549]

Interesting to head your thoughts..... I don't think I'll ever own a triumph of any sort but a good watch all the same. Keep em coming.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

What makes you say that out of interest? (that you'll never own a Triumph?)

[@comfysofa1549]

TheMissendenFlyer multiple reasons. Don't like the style of them (the bendy frame. Not a fan of the bug eyes, don't like the whine of the triple.) Not a fan of the oldy worldly persona that they push. Don't like most of the range... They seem to be going back in time whereas most are going forward but that's the retro hipster style atm. Half expecting them to produce some thing with granite wheels next :) ironically the speed and street that are the only ones if own if you put gun to my head and even then it would be the speed over the street. But, having said that they've got their style that lots like and that's good as if they were all the same life'd be pretty boring. So, while not for me I can see why some like them.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Fair enough - I'm surprised someone calling himself comfy sofa doesn't like a bit of oldy worldy persona though!! ;0)

[@comfysofa1549]

TheMissendenFlyer touche my friend touche....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

:0)

[@hudsonrilke]

Another great vid. I prefer the old bikes dials. Don't like the look of the TFT at all and I don't need all those modes. Not enough to get you to change. All you need is that Bobber or a cruiser.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

....well I'm not really a cruiser man, but one of the retro Bonnie's may well be just the ticket ;0)

[@southend26]

I'm not a cruiser guy either, but really prefer the analog displays to all this digital. For me it's easier to get speed and revs at a glance.

[@pf6819]

I love the digital speed/analogue tach combo myself

[@troxigg]

so big numbers on a screen is hard to read? Let alone more accurate speed readings calculated in micrometers rather than an old speed sensor that has mph discrepancy's hmm. Only robust reliability is the merit to analog milometers.

[@dayriderschat]

Thanks for the very valid observations which are valuable to all riders .....

[@thomaskindlund410]

Excellent review, very comprehensive, thanks

[@SickBikeDude]

Ya know i just cant decide. I love them both equally. I was watching the bike chase at the end of mission impossible 2 the other day and Tom was riding a 1999 T595 or T509 speed triple I think and man does that bike still look good. So I think these bikes will look good for years and years. I also agree that the black and gold is just awesome looking! Nice vid!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@ThatguyGears]

watching your videos are going to be the reason why, when I upgrade my A2, i'm going to buy a street triple.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

...you know you can get an A2 version (albeit with a 675cc engine)???

[@ThatguyGears]

aah well that's a game changer, I'll have to investigate...many thanks.

[@bocolis88]

I think it should be fair to compare the old STr with the new base model! The premium in price for the RS is huge and still it fails to convince people it's night and day difference. Great review and comparison though and thank you for taking the time to make it happen.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes that would be a better comparison - thanks for watching - TMF

[@ewwmin3m]

Lovely comparison. Would've loved to see some mechanic maintenance points though on how the old ones been keeping up compared to the new

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Kojy Thanks for watching Kojy - appreciate the kind words - TMF

[@CajunGreenMan]

Thanks for the info about the tires, love learning things like that. You can think Delboy and Duke Dyson for turning me on to you. Cheers!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

[@sirt.a.g4316]

Very good comparison video!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you..

[@vintageprinciples]

Super helpful comparison thank you! Considering these two model years myself. Curious what percentage % you would guess the handling is better on the new one vs 2012 for every day twisties?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Minimal - 5% at most.....

[@vintageprinciples]

@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you sir. Going to look at a low miles 2012 R tomorrow for about $3,400 euro. The newer 2017+ Triples definitely look more modern but I only really care about ride quality in corners.

[@Derpderpson123]

@@vintageprinciples yo where did you find one for that price haha

[@vintageprinciples]

@@Derpderpson123 One locally. Really fair price for it, but that year didn't have ABS yet so unfortunately passed as I just can't ride with 100% comfort without it. Ended up with a more ADV style bike. But wouldn't mind one of these i the future as a second weekend bike!

[@aaron0288]

Trouble with this is you're comparing the 2012 R to the new RS. Really you want to be comparing it to the new R. This RS has been tuned to have a lot of the power up top, which you don't seem to be in much in this vid, or at least when you did the power comparison bit. The new R is much more like the older models in that the engine's been tuned for the road, so more torque lower down than the RS. Will you be riding the new R? As it sounds like that's the bike for you :)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes you're probably right there, I didn't have the option of borrowing an "R" but would love to for all the reasons you state...maybe next year I'll be able to. Thanks for watching - TMF.

[@dv2045]

I have the STR2017 and I rode the STR2016 and in terms of engine its almost the same. The STR2016 is overpriced. The new one is 2000€ more expensive but the dayling headlights, the slipperclutch (good security measure), better suspension and breaks plus the rider modes (the rain mode ir really helps you to get a grip of a a very powerful machine like a A2 license ST) it's better in terms of value for money vs the old STR2016.

[@Idividezero]

I didn't know this was a video I needed; I've started considering getting a Street Triple but didn't know if I wanted a 675 or a 765 (new rider, big guy). Sounds like the 675 works better for me, plus that black/gold paint scheme is just lovely!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You are a man of great taste! ....although I'd be a bit careful about getting a Street Triple as your first bike (but that's just me)....

[@Idividezero]

I'm aware that it's a bit of a handful, even at my high altitude (4300ft/1300m), but I'm very much a "buy it once" kind of person. I love the idea of an all around bike, and not too crazy on power. Between a VFR and this, I think this might be more my idea of a perfect bike.

[@NorthEastFPV]

13:30 into this vid put a huge grin on my face , now i know i made the right choice , i pickup my secondhand 2012 street triple R with arrows cans at the weekend 👍👍👍👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one - enjoy!

[@mikebreen2890]

Onwards and upwards....Rarely will you find a better bike in the past. Or car, or airplane.......Bloody good video!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Mike (although I do lament the passing of Concorde)

[@796monster]

thanks for all the work you put into this vid ! , it is just fantastic ! only nit pick I have, and you didi say so, you can't do Arrow vs. stock cans, now comes the hard part, my dealer is offering me a very good value for my 2013 model on a trade for the new one, and I have to act fast, supposedly all the dealers over here in the U.S. are only getting 4 bikes each

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Your call Jim, I know what I would do! All the best - TMF

[@henrysmith5604]

Very enjoyable video maybe a comparison with the latest R version rather than the R S on my 2011 street I had the lowboy exhaust fitted which did sound good

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes that would be a better comparison of course - I can only work with the machines I have available though (I'm not a pro at this stuff)....

[@rowenamagallanes2514]

Watching you for quite a while now and have to say enjoyed all your videos on here and cant wait for the next they are all very informative. I cant see why Velocity or another company as not contacted you to do a series with them

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Ray - very kind of you to say so, good to have you along!

[@henrysmith5604]

Yes I know good point I was thinking what you said about the handling on the RS compared to your R I think the new R would probably have similar suspension to your bike I enjoy watching your videos keep it up 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Henry...will do...

[@christhomas6373]

I brought the new street triple when it launched in may, I agree with most you said to be fair, the "looks" on the old made the choice more difficult, but the new upgrades on the 765 won it for me. The noise I think will come when some aftermarket cans are released. I got the matt silver though... I have always had shiny bikes and fancied a change. personal preference I guess there though.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yep all down to personal preference for sure...

[@tigerjim6077]

Great video as always Mr TMF! I think I chose well buying my 2016 Street last year. Got the extra bits like the ABS and fuel gauge which the 2012 misses. I like the new 765 but when you compare my red standard red 2016 against the 2017 S model, it just doesn't do it for me and it looks rather bland. The same I feel is with the RS, there's too much black and it looks a bit dull, not enough shiny bits. All I wish for is that I'd have known about the 10th Anniversary 675 and then I could've got a gold one. Overall I'm happy with my 675, unless they bring out a 765 RT version where I could maybe have panniers, some wind protection with a screen and maybe cruise control.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one Jim - I agree you timed your purchase about right!

[@pushpindersingh8101]

Great comparison video. Loved the way you put the difference and your style of comparison but you shouldn't have used the blur while riding. Anyways good work.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks :0)

[@lynsmith1096]

Good comparison video TMF. I have to agree with you the older bike does look nicer with the colour sceem and I am a big fan of the twin exhaust because it makes the bike look better.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

....it’s how the bike was designed after all!

[@speedo-vy5nx]

Great vid. i owned the original street 675 in 2007. At that time i could have sold it for 2 grand more than i paid for it. Demand out stripped supply. I then had the 2009 - 2010 -2013 models. All these bikes r bloody stupendous. But the 2017 model realy does take it to the big boys toys. And beats them into a tin hat. Every bike in my opinion should have the awesome quick shifter. Just watch your licence. Once again great and honest vid. Safe riding guys and girls.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers!

[@tinks43]

Great stuff, The Arrow cans just sound awesome! 😀

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you (and I agree!)

[@gmanlimitedanderson-0drisc211]

Great review I know it's an old one but it's been great I've decided witch one I prefer I have to agree the older one looks better especially the front end. Well put together this review 👍

[@troppo4872]

Thanks mate. Another good review. Great to see you calling it as you see it. As we discussed previously, the 2017 has more power at the top end...which is useless on the road. I like the new display. Sorry, but high pipes are a hate crime on a Striple....it is a well known fact that white 2012s with the low Arrow pipe have 50 more HP.... ;-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

:0)

[@wynjones1033]

Your old sounds better than the new, but that's only because of the arrow cans and there are double the amount. Having a 2016 R myself in mat grey I think it looks fab but that's just personal choice. Enjoyed the comparison, keep up the good work.. Ride safe.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Wyn...good to have you along as ever....

[@wynjones1033]

You still up, that's commitment that is.😁

[@mob1235]

13:05 They made a very good sound for an Euro 4 bike! But when you listen, you notice its more quiet and they concentrated more on the airbox sound. But the deep wide base sound is missing now.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed....

[@stanleyknife1967]

Another great vid. I think your reviews are pretty well balanced. Only thing that was not fair was the exhaust comparison - a little bit of artistic licence there! The Arrows do sound much better though. I don't mind the paint scheme actually, but never owned a Matt bike.....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes there wasn't much I could do about that, in my defence I did say it was an unfair comparison!

[@alexmorgan3435]

Like your 2012 triple's gold wheels, sets it off nicely.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yeah I agree, I think I have the best Street Triple ever made :0) ....I am of course very biased...

[@stevep7837]

I personally believe the 2013-2016 STR still looks and sounds better thumbs up if you agree. I'd like to see a comparison on that and the latest model.

[@OffGridMadMan]

Totally

[@nurglerider781]

Personally I think the RS front makes it look like a Mantis, I quite like it. But I also like the older lamps too. I have a black RS which I think looks much better than the silver one. I absolutely hate gold on any vehicle so I'd never agree that it looks good on the old bike. In the end though they are both great looking bikes. If I had a looks complaint on the new bike I don't like the angular, filled in sub-frame and I dislike that the RS has a silver one when the red sub-frame of the R was always a big draw. I do want to add EF that you are rapidly becoming my favorite motovlogger/bike oriented content creator. Your videos are thoughtful, informational and interesting.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you very much sir! ...and good choice getting the RS in black, that grey does it no favours......all a matter of personal taste of course, someone in Marketing at Triumph clearly likes the grey RS!

[@danielrichards2246]

great review, I have a 2013 so it was interesting to watch

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one Dan - thanks for watching....

[@Banditmanuk]

My Mrs has the 2015 Street and is thinking about the new RS. We agree with you on the paint of the RS ( hate the matt) and a Triumph dealer has quoted us £800.00 to re-paint it Imperial Purple just like her old 2012 Street Triple which she loved but unfortunately crashed. Those high exhausts on the old model also stop some of the road filth getting spattered up your jacket when the roads are wet... but I guess you've never tested that one :-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well I've not ridden one with low level exhausts in really filthy weather for sure....£800 for a repaint, worth doing me thinks!

[@mikelee1923]

Another great and interesting review, totally agree with your comments for me the older bike looks better all round and can't under stand why triumph don't make the colours they used too!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad we concur Mike, thanks for watching - TMF

[@jongollings1804]

What a great review/honest thoughts between the bikes. The funny thing is i have 100% no interest in Esther bikes, but because the content and how it was put together was so well done I stayed till the end and glad I did. Well done from the Peak District

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Jon - very nice of you to say so (and to watch!)

[@cityofangels11]

I'm with you on the bug eyes and the sound. 2012 for sure is the winner. 🙂👍 the new one is more quieter and refined and breaking is just fantastic.

[@huwjones5879]

For colour scheme it has to be the metallic gloss orange on the 2010 round light version. Plenty of matte orange but not many gloss orange around. I often get asked if mine is a custom paint job at petrol stations. High level exhausts every time for me.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed!

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Yet another good review. I'd be happier with the new street because of that handling and brake improvement, but agree your old bike looks better. The cowling on the RS should go altogether. And I think Triumph have missed a trick with the lower spec R and S versions - one at least should mimic Yamaha's MT strategy and be more roadster than sport-naked focused. Higher bars, lowered suspension, single round headlight and keep the rest - no need to go retro and trespass on the Bonnie range. Fast bike but more relaxed to ride.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I like the sound of that!

[@duncanblanchard334]

Lovely job, would be interesting to know how much it would cost you to change up to a new bike from your bike. This would be a big deciding factor for a lot of people who have the old model.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well about £5000 I reckon, not worth it in my view....the new bike doesn't deliver 100% more thrills than my 2012 (which is probably worth around £5000), I'd say it's about 20% better, so if you could get one for £6000 I'd upgrade, at £10,000 naa....

[@hawkrider88]

I have heard some people say that when they put different cans than OEM on the bike that their butt gets quite hot. It looks like those Arrow cans don't have the shield that the standard exhaust has either. Have you noticed any heat problems? Thanks, love your videos. Atlanta, USA.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

None at all - but then I also ride a Panigale (hot!!)

[@hawkrider88]

@@TheMissendenFlyer , thank you!

[@steffydog]

Ha ha ha ha, love it TMF, you love your 2012 and it shows. The new girl, with all her flashy bits, bells and whistles, it just can't compare in looks or sound can it to your baby. My 2015 RX is very similar to the new RS, so to me it looks like a tweak on mine. Glad the 90 cc isn't mega or I'd be off to PX. I did have those twin high level Arrows on my 2010 STR, but found they droned in my ears to much, and sold them on, fitted the 3-1 Low Boy and loved it. Mine was black and gold, you're right it's a lovely colour combo, my Daytona is blue and gold, love those wheels. Thanks for the video as always.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You are a man of impeccable taste clearly! Good to hear from you again, all the best - TMF

[@auswill1]

Awesome review

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Yomi...

[@smiddysmith8517]

Another good review I had a 2012 and loved it as a 2nd bike I'd have another street no hesitation .Did you fit a slipper clutch to yours ?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

No I haven't got the slipper clutch - to be honest I didn't know you could get one retro fitted! ...might have to look into that!

[@smiddysmith8517]

TheMissendenFlyer looked like you were shifting gear clutchless on both might need to watch again lol

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I was, they're both fitted with a quickshift.....

[@ratsac]

Nice comparison mate. One thing I do like about both of them is that they have fixed cockpit and headlights. That is, they don't move with the handlebars. Looking at a naked bike, but don't like the feeling of having nothing in front of you like maybe an S1000R, MT09 or Monster. Do these feel like that to ride? I.e nothing in your field of view.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes they do to be honest...but you get used to it....

[@fazerhomer]

I have Street Triple 2013 in White. A wonderful bike, my opinion ! I made testdrive with STR 2017, also great !! But I can see no reason to change !!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I'm glad we agree - the STriple is a brilliant machine, whichever one you ride....

[@stevesixtysix7630]

Excellent review......as we come to expect from you.....but the big question is would you buy one when the time comes to replace the 2012? From the review I am thinking not 🤔

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+steve sixtysix Correct, the improvements over my bike (and it is improved despite my aesthetic dislikes) aren't worth the £5k I'd have to find I reckon....

[@dv2045]

If I had the old STR2012 I would go for the BMW S1000R but it's not much difference for a SR2012 veteran to jump to the STR2017

[@dougie1325]

Thanks TMF, great review as always. I am a fan of black but not gold or even gold and black and I also love the matt grey and wheel striping on the new model. I'm with you on the extra striping elsewhere, it's like they didn't know where to stop. With a different exhaust setup it will sound every bit as good as your bike i'm sure. I think what's important is that the positive points are what you said as the important things and the negatives are subjective. On looks I'm a fan of the new design but I also think your bike looks great too. If I didn't own a Street Triple I would buy the new model over the old model but like you if I already owned one I'm not sure I would buy the new model.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Dougie - indeed most of this is subjective and of course I'm biased....(how can you not like gold wheels!!!!)

[@dougie1325]

Yes sorry the only gold metal I like is the expensive kind that's found in big heavy bars. I'm happy to accept any of them sitting unwanted around the TMF man cave.

[@rickseyb2993]

Impressive riding !

[@garycampbell7891]

Very well balanced review TMF. Not a Triumph fan but still enjoyed the content and level presentation . Old tart indeed! Hilarious!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Gary.....how can anyone not be a Triumph fan?! I dunno.... ;0)

[@brianperry]

I've revisited...... My bike is closer to yours in terms of generation I bought a 2014 Street triple in 2016. It was like new, it still is... what a motorcycle the Striple is....Its light , nimble and quick. The suspension cannot be called 'plush',, hard describes it perfectly...which of course makes it great on good surfaces, but awful on rough roads. A little tweaking and experimentation can improve it a little, however its probably best to keep to good roads. Here in España I stay away from 'agricultural roads' as they are usually rough, pot holed and generally in pretty poor repair.! ....Lastly, you're right ....your Striple does sound better...

[@lrcb40]

Agreed!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good stuff - cheers!

[@Jesperrescue]

Thank you for this lovely review! I did a huge misstake (or not?) by test riding the 765 RS last week and i kinda "fell in love". what an amazing machine, so much more usable on the streets than my current supersport 750cc suzuki (sure 150bhp but where to use them somewhat within the range of the speed limits?). But unfortunately my wallet says no to a brand new bike, but however if i get rid of my current bike i will be well in range for the 675 R (or RX?). im looking for the model between the one you got and the absolut newest one, namely the 2013-2016 model with abs, a different tac and the side (under bike?) exhaust. Watched a prev vid of your about the top 5 mods to get for a street triple, and that break fluid resevoar is pretty sweet looking! thanks for that, i wouldn't have discovered that myself and kept on ride with whatever is stock on the bike (namely plastic... eww from now on). What is the difference between your 675R and the slightly newer 2013-2016 675R? is it less or more the same bike with another exhaust and tac or is there more in difference? seen bikes with your type of seat and more like the 765 with a splitted seat, but i can't figure out which one belongs to the R or if it is just 2 different options from the factory. BR and cheers! MK2

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yep "more or less" the same bike - they had to strangle it with those underslung exhausts (I think for Euro 4) and they changed the gearing to make first much taller, this had the effect of taming the acceleration somewhat and the bike losing some of its hooligan character - on the plus side you do gain a fuel gauge and ABS which are both well worth having....

[@Jesperrescue]

Let me guess first gear gets longer but 2-6th is similar ish so the topspeed aint that much of a difference then? So the older model didn't come with a fuel gauge, but u had the average fuel consumption and the range left on the current amount of fuel in the tank on the old right? So why would anyone really care for an gauge aslong as you know how many more miles one have left before it's empty. Oh well. The only experience i have is the 765cc. Is that similared geared as your short 1st geared 675?

[@hawkrider88]

Are the ergonomics different from 2012 to 2017? As a shorter rider I'm wondering if the reach to the bars is different, the seating position much different and seat height? Thanks, your reviews are some of the best.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nope, the bikes feel exactly the same ergonomically.....

[@hawkrider88]

Thx!

[@OperationFoxley19441]

Just bought a new bike, a Yamaha FZ8 which came with the arrow pro exhaust............did you remove the baffle from the arrow exhaust you have?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I have them removed currently, occasionally I put them back in if I'm doing a longer journey as the exhausts are very loud and can get tiring...

[@steveinskip4897]

Thanks for that. It's the one I was waiting for. The thing that really naffs me off about the new bike is the plasticky thing between seat & tank. Totally obnoxious! I wish they'd given it to an Italian design house for finishing off. Triumphs attention to detail has improved, but it's still not in thevleague of say the Ducati Monster. The rider modes aren't necessary with the 675 engine unless you're ham fisted; it isn't a 200bhp Suzuki! And you can put stuff on the back seat of the old one, (probably not Mrs Flyers drum-kit but a club sandwich at least) without scratching any paintwork. But.....because of the Brembos and the ABS, I'd chose the new one over the old one. Having said that I wouldn't chose either but that's another story. Top vlog as always. I watch more of you in a week than the BBC nowadays. :-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Steve, if only I could harvest some licence fees like the BBC!! ;0) ...and i agree the Brembos, ABS and Ohlins make for a tasty upgrade on the old "R"....

[@ceriabestsb3023]

Thanks for this video. Been waiting for this comparison. A great comparison I believe. Anyway I wonder what is the outcome if you compare between 2017 and 2016 models. I think it's going to be a close call don't you think so?The 2016 model came with ABS and traction control too. Again,great video sir.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I think it would be a close call whatever Street Triple you compared with whatever - they're all brilliant form the first one onwards....