Old vs New Teen Titans - Nostalgia Critic

[@ChannelAwesome]

A new kind of bad that will blow Nostalgia Critic away? Next week's episode will be filled with pain! RUUUUUUNNNNNN!!! Support this week's charity - www.finca.org/ What other topics should we cover on Old vs New?

[@agentspaniel4428]

Robocop 1987 vs 2014

[@darthstarkiller1912]

I am rather curious of what made Nostalgia Critic end up like that. My guess is any of the Transformers sequels.

[@christiantracey1479]

Channel Awesome 1987 RoboCop vs 2014 RoboCop

[@CoolDude-ze4ep]

Channel Awesome Is it Freddy got fingered

[@brittanyyates6527]

Please review the Simpson's movie 2007

[@PikaTheProsperous]

"If you don't like it, don't watch it." To be fair, Cartoon Network isn't making that seemingly simple task that easy.

[@The5armdamput33]

Also.... That's a funny thing for someone who calls himself a "critic" to say....

[@valterfara5027]

@@The5armdamput33 With him is different, since he lives from seeing something everybody hates or loves. And giving an opinion.

[@The5armdamput33]

Valter Fara I'm going to have to call bullshit there.... Anyone can give their opinion, but Nostalgia Critic is definitely being a hypocrite here.... If his attitude is as stated above, then he shouldn't live off of it.... If anyone has the right to complain, it's the consumers....

[@valterfara5027]

@@The5armdamput33 You know, in his episodes of Nostalgia Critic he always seems to be more of one side than the other. But in the end of the reviews, he gives his neutral point of view of what he saw. Just look at the ones of Disneycember for example, all is neutral.

[@SuperIsaiah]

did you know a very decent amount of the views on the show come from the haters who just want to watch it to make fun of it online? if everyone who hates the show stopped watching it a very decent chunk of viewers would be missing and that would in turn cause CN to air it less. if you want it to air less stop watching it.

[@pokefanlight]

"The cruelest attention you can give to any form of entertainment is no attention" This is my favourite quote from Doug Walker because It's so true and yet, so unheard of.

[@thatmotivatedchris6749]

Agree

[@nine_tails137]

That's easier said than done, since Cartoon Network keeps shoving it in our faces 24/7!

[@lukegoldstonofficial1614]

Muset did he say it in this video or another video?

[@WilliamMcFarlandVideo]

@@nine_tails137 change the channel

[@nine_tails137]

@@WilliamMcFarlandVideo Oh don't you start that too!

[@SourMads6414]

Nostalgia Critic: Fans were ECSTATIC!... That is a LIE! Best line ever.

[@kitkat2702]

2:39 and it made me laugh out loud because NC is so very right

[@RonanJa1997]

@@kitkat2702 i feel the same way as him when i found out it isnt the continuation

[@IBrowneeI]

8:06 _”They do! Everybody hates us!”_ I gotta admit, the way Cyborg delivers that line makes it real hard for me to dislike Go. I have trouble disliking things when I know the people behind it clearly had fun. His delivery on the joke on how many people hate the series is just terrific.

[@dannywapbang]

Khary Payton as Cyborg in Injustice 2 blows his performance as Cyborg in TTG out of the water. *_Why is Cyborg even in TTG?? He's part of the Justice League now!!_*

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

“They do! Everybody hates us”. That’s right, your show is considered an abomination

[@Marcelelias11]

The fact that Go is actually smart and self aware makes me both respect it and hate it even more.

[@carloslopezortega3327]

I like teen titans go! Boom I say it.

[@RonanJa1997]

@@carloslopezortega3327 boooo

[@Lowlightt]

Well the true reason people dislike TTGO is because TT story arc was left unfinished. And many people wanted to know what happened next. And instead of being treated to a faithful comeback and answers to those questions we got waffles.

[@abigail1928]

THIS

[@jenniferhoward1128]

Lowlightt well it was meant to end with “the end” trilogy but the 5th season was tacked on probably because of money so we probably won’t get an answer as trouble in Tokyo follows “the end” trilogy

[@royaleroque7716]

Evil beware. We have waffles.

[@jaylanigbinoba5298]

The only reason I hate TTG is because it just wears the TT cape think about it if Teen Titans and the TT characters wasn't in the show I probably would like it

[@ShinyShilla]

I will personally steal all the income for the TTG film so those diehard fans will NEVER know what happens Serve them right, don't bully!

[@lazilypunctual2863]

Fans of OG TT: there is no way there can be a more insulting version of TT DC: hold my beer

[@bandotaku]

For real, though...

[@JoshAkersFilms]

pretty much

[@saxshton]

You earn a sub for that

[@SamuelParker-fw3jq]

Hahaha😂😂😂😂

[@HankDeanMan]

It's like TTGO but, everyone is a Edgelord #FuckBatman

[@NRF-ee6cp]

Teen Titans (the 2003 animated series) was my favorite superhero TV show as a kid. As an adult, my favorite superhero TV shows are a combination of the entirety of the DCAU, Teen Titans, and Spectacular Spider-Man. I can't choose which one is my absolute favorite of them.

[@YuukiTakemoto1996]

Same. I liked it because of Cyborg starting from the 3rd season... I HAD A CRUSH ON HIM AS A KID

[@KazuhaEien]

Mine too!

[@EthanGrimsley10000]

Me when I was a child, I had a crush on Starfire. Now as an adult as I continue to enjoy OG Teen Titans, I now like Raven of OG Teen Titans.

[@gijoe820]

Key word *WAS*

[@Local_commentor]

Mine was X-men the animated series

[@ninalauckner355]

Teen Titans was also a show for kids, but it was able to do so much more than Teen Titans Go. It didn't speak down to its audience and it was able to handle heavy topics and make it understandable for kids. It talked about friends drifting apart, abusive relationships, and even handled racism in an episode and to see such a great show become THIS just breaks my heart.

[@nobodyhere6915]

Damn.

[@diannezurcher4529]

Have you actually seen an episode of teen Titans go

[@tracyndiyob162]

@@diannezurcher4529people especially fans of the original have every reason to hate go.while its not the worst dc product of all time(though it's definitely in my top 3 hated dc series and even batman & robin gets close to being good by comparison to go at times.)i'd take the worst of new spongebob during 2008-2016 over go. i have seen the 1st few seasons and its pretty shit honestly.there are a few good moments(i actually like ravens design as well as jinx and i do like they went out of the way to bring the old voice actors back as well as the titans getting their asses kick by batmans villains while reminding how much of a badass alfred is.:3) but it's completely on the wrong,bad way of self abuse that comes less looney tunes/animaniacs and just mostly immature,bratty, petty deserving of hate and not learning from mistakes(especially with the crossover with the just as shit thundercats roar and insulting thundercats fans,you dont continue with doing bad after seeing backlash you take what was good and get rid of what was bad which this series fails hard at.it's basically if instead of sonic 2 after sonic 1 we got sonic 06 and they continued with that which they honestly did with sonic boom:rise of lyric and sonic forces.)this show needs to end/be cancelled and dc focus on being good while actually listening to their smarter fans that know. honestly with the new ninja turtles my problem is more it kinda gave me a bit of burnout after seeing the other series not too long.not helping is the fact that cartoon network shelved other better shows like ok k.o & sonic boom(which has better writing humor and self deprecating humor that doesn't act like bratty apologist to fans and just has funny references to all its media in a jovial playful way.also the fact it mania,the shorts,the movie,and its crossover appearances were the only good things about sonic in the 2010's as sonic on the wii u was shit and forces just showed sonic team had no idea what to do with sonic outside of listening to idiotic fans that think dark stuff in sonic is still a good idea when its plainly crystal clear its not.) to shove it down our throats when its clear people hated it,not insulting fans when the series deserves its hate,having an unnecessary amount of episodes,(teen titans go should not be 200 episodes long that's stupid as shit.)not taking the entire runtime of days on cartoon network(when they could be showing their other actually good/way better older shows.),season 6 of the original series being put on hiatus despite teasing it(there's no reason too and makes dc look like immature jackasses for not bringing their better show back to get some of the haters off their back and make fans happy.) and being another insult to dc when it already has a lot of problems with this being the worst and the biggest case of the "it's just for kid's" counter being stupid and having no ground at all.(apologist terms like that give more reason that you and your kids are dumb,idiots with no taste than speaking for the majority.kids can take heavy concepts but in different ways and depending on the kid but this series doesnt do that so people telling teen titans go fuck you have just as much deserved reason to as fans that see some charm in it.)also fuck beast boy,cyborg and robin(worst,most pathetic unfunny,crap incarnation of him in dc.i'd take batman & robins version over him anyday.) in go their the worst part of it.(though starfire reaches super unfunny too dumb to live at times.)

[@zachscarbrough2727]

Of course we all have to admit, TTG is gold compared to Thundercats Roar. God what an insult.

[@nai9167]

Teen titans go is better

[@SamuelFister]

Teen Titans was a story. It dealt with complex issues with well written characters and an intriguing narrative Teen Titans Go is jingling keys in front of your kids face I understand it's a kids show (hell, so was the OG Teen Titans), but it ticks me off because it shows the attitude studios have towards kids. Avatar was a kid's show too, and it still treated kids like they were smarter than farts and meta humor. I honestly dig the idea of "what do superheros do in their time not superheroing", but to take beloved characters from a franchise so adored and turn them into idiots, you could've just created new characters to put in this show and had the same thing.

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

Avatar want a kid show rarely anyone under ten watched it

[@coolman5242]

Tarfiel Archelone Er, I was 9 when I watched Avatar. Heck, I knew a 7 year old who was the biggest Avatar fan in the neighborhood.

[@lunabearsong2043]

@@tarfielarchelone2674 ATLA was aimed at children, and many adults caught on to it. It's great!

[@kiritosenpai1501]

except these lazy fucks don't have an original bone in their bodies and would rather shit all over the legacy of a great series in order to pull eyes based on name recognition rather then any talent of their own

[@Colind8]

Because kids are dumber these days. Back in my day, I would watch Rick and Morty and I would understand every joke/satire.

[@ligtningdog6399]

Teen Titans Go! wouldn't get nearly as much hate if it wasn't on tv ALL THE DAMN TIME! It's not a bad series. But it's drowning out anything and everything else on CN. It's too popular for it's own good. And arguable to say that it was never really that popular, but the network just wanted their own SpongeBob.

[@VaughnCamacho]

so its the shows fault for being successful with its main demographic?

[@ligtningdog6399]

That's like saying movie theaters should play nothing but Infinity War in every screen until the next MCU movie.

[@ligtningdog6399]

It's also kind of a falsehood for CN to claim that TTG is the currently most highest rated show, when they act like it's their only show they have.

[@sparkydoodle696]

Ligtning Dog What, your tv only has one channel?

[@ligtningdog6399]

Sparky Dood Because of how a number of networks try to spam a single show all the time, I haven't really watched too much tv. But Cartoon Network is as specially bad with it.

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

As a fan of the original, Teen Titans GO seemed like a cash grab. They took characters that already had a loyal fan base and used that fact to market a brand new show that wasn't just unlike the original but spat in the face of the fans. It seems to be the MO for studios now. Take a well known IP, use the existing fan base to build it up, distort the IP until it is unrecognizable, then blame the fans when the new version gets rightfully lampooned.

[@mrbust999]

Well they're not making money from the old fan base, or are they, if they were then it's definitely your own fault

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

@@mrbust999 No they aren't, but they used the popularity of the original show to market this new show. Thereby exploiting the original fan base.

[@mrbust999]

@@Doc-Holliday1851 first off, it's taking advantage not exploiting, but if you want them to stop exploiting you, then just stop parading the show so that no one else can know about it.

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

+Charaykee Shilla Literally the first synonym listed for the term "exploiting" is "take advantage of". Secondly, I don't parade anything. I don't consume content I don't like. The most I will do in terms of interacting with IP I don't like will be to share my opinion that I don't care for it. If you're parading something you are trying to gain attention or otherwise flaunt something. Unless a person won't shut up about or uses pop-culture to their advantage, simply having an opinion on it can hardly be considered parading.

[@mrbust999]

@@Doc-Holliday1851 you misunderstand I'm referring to the original previous Teen Titans

[@JeremiahJ-wv1vn]

In my opinion they should've just made a new show instead of using teen titans I dont think the go was really bad but I cant watch it because it always feels like a slap in the face to the old fans

[@sxaduhbe5968]

I think the same, TTG can be a nice and funny show but it's depressing to see such a good characters changed like this. They use the popularity of their names and i think this is the reason why TT fans hate TTG

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

I agree. This show's Silliness probably wouldn't be such a big deal if they just used original Characters instead of recycling old ones.

[@yodaddyrc1220]

Kind of like with thunder cats roar

[@AnnthemofArt]

Yeah I feel like it could be a stand alone show, cuz it’s actually not that bad. They could’ve done this without using Teen Titans. Probably.

[@MyAbridged]

One of the biggest problems with this video is that it entirely ignores one of the biggest issues with TTG, which is how the network treats it. TTG is pretty much the single most promoted show they've done in years. This would be annoying if it was just merchandise and idents and such, but it'd be something that could be easily ignored. But with TTG there's literally cases of it being practically the only show on for days at a time. I'm not trying to exaggerate here, TVTropes has it's own page for TTG in the 'Adored by the Network' trope, which lists examples of this, with up to fourteen straight hours of TTG, and cases of up to six straight hours of the same single episode. Now, I haven't been watching for a while, but admittedly it does seem better than it was (TVTropes talks about it being more like five hour blocks now, which is still a lot, but not as bad as nine hour blocks), but that kind of thing cannot help but have an impact. Especially in the beginning where beloved shows like Young Justice were being bumped off for something as vapid as TTG. Combine this with a lot of the meta humour mentioned in the video being very meanspirited early on in the show's run and it's hardly a surprise that people would end up absolutely loathing this, since it comes across as a big middle finger from both the network and showrunners.

[@molamola542]

I mean... I don't think how the network treats the show should affect the comparison between the two

[@dawk7]

I think he's talking about the part where Doug finds it odd that the old fans still seem to even care about said show- because it's true, if you dislike something, just ignore it completely. The issue is, if you still have a certain love for cartoons and continue to keep track with them, TTGo isn't really something you can avoid, when one of the big networks is absolutely shoving it onto people's faces. It's a matter of The-Elephant-In-The-Room, it's not just some new show-up to be quietly disappointed on until it fades. Honestly... what can be said? TTGo is an okay show, with good writing. It's simple for sure, but kids don't care about the depth of a show until they start to grow up along with it. No, the thing is that for this case, and simply by the design they have chosen, TTGo is going to inevitably disrespect the source material it's taking as inspiration. With extra "merit" given to the _very_ mean-spirited meta humor used in the beginning of its run-time, in the end... the burn from that way they have treated the old love fans had, it ends up going quite deep. Mix those two paragraphs together, and you have this kind of situation.

[@NinjaGidget]

I'll tell ya what could be worse: if the original show ended without resolving a major plot point that was not only an engaging mystery, but an emotional pillar of the final season. Good thing that sort of travesty never occurred... twice...

[@SuperIsaiah]

it is irrelevant how CN treats it. that doesn't effect the shows quality itself. and they obviously do it because its making them money, did you know a very decent amount of the views on the show come from the haters who just want to watch it to make fun of it online? if everyone who hates the show stopped watching it a very decent chunk of viewers would be missing and that would in turn cause CN to air it less. if you want it to air less stop watching it.

[@thomasmurrell9832]

Super Isaiah "Shut. The fuck. Up." ~Penn This is a bullshit fallacy and it never works. "if you don't like it, don't see it" can be used on just about EVERYTHING. EV. ER. Y. THING. Oh, don't like Star Wars The Last Jedi? Then don't go seeing it. And yes, the way a network treats a show can greatly affect its quality. The show itself is OK and it is occasionally funny for real reasons other than fetish fuels and stupid jokes, but let's take this into another example. I love crab legs. I absolutely do. However, if I spent every day, every hour, every waking moment eating nothing but crab legs, I'll eventually get sick and tired of crab legs and hate them. With how much CN has been pushing the show (literally, there have been times it was the ONLY show running for full days at a time; no shit), it easily fatigues the content and it gets extremely tiring. Wanna know why it's making money? Just look at what I said: they're literally making it become (almost) the ONLY show that airs, except for the occasional movie and/or new episode for a show (and even then, they RARELY advertise them). So no, just because it's bad doesn't mean I should avoid it. That fallacy shit is why shit quality shit is getting shat out by the day (Star Wars, video games, books, and politics, need I go on?). STOP it with that argument. Seriously.

[@studio_firefly]

Teen Titans GO!: Too bright and childish. Titans: Too dark and bleak. Plus a bit edgy. Teen Titans: Perfect, just right👌 I don't care what anyone else says this is my opinion!

[@Macndcheese]

Tje right opinion

[@smokeyanimate3564]

No non no! You have the correct opinion! I don’t care what fanboy/girl who’s probably 10 says

[@NoName-st2jl]

Perfect can't say it better my self

[@jessicamurphy5553]

Facts

[@ObservingPaul678]

Teen titans is perfectly balanced as all things should be, Titans and Teen Titans Go just feel like Teen Titans was struck by lightning and split it into two shows one being the dark and gritty titans and the other being the goofy and childish teen titans go

[@raptorus7773]

I feel like the biggest problem people have with this show is that it used the same lineup from the 2003 version, and changing some stuff around. Something Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles avoided by making their version a brand new iteration, rather than the same voice actors and characters from one of the past ones. On another note, It's good to see another Old vs New, it's been a while!

[@DigiRangerScott]

Raptorus77 I think once he did the fuller-produced reviews every other week against editorials and mini-reviews, he tries to make it a yearly occurrence. But now that he’s doing reviews every week (fuller and lesser-produced alternating) it MIGHT increase again but who knows

[@felixmartinez9673]

what about sinnoh?

[@dynostretch9215]

That's a very good point that often goes unaddressed, if this show isn't made for the fans of the original TT series, then why make the show with the same designs, cast the same voice actors, and use so many elements from the original show ? The little kids who are apparently the real target demographic would have no knowledge of who these characters are or why, and the people who do know who these characters are are being told they're too old for this series.

[@bellablondon6172]

Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles looks like a mindless cartoon reboot

[@lamondlense]

Raven:Clowns are for kids! Joker: Am I a joke to you?...oh wait

[@Jack-mo2vo]

Your awful Raven

[@amasthedude1387]

@@Jack-mo2vo The Go! version, yes. The original version, that'd be a big fat *N O*

[@elijahhill6602]

Joaquin Phoenix & Heath Ledger: I don’t know......

[@elyazlabrada6519]

Or pennywise

[@bernhardweich2617]

Pennywise: hold my balloon.

[@1805movie]

Here's something almost nobody brings up. Original _Teen Titans_ : *TV-Y7* _Teen Titans Go_ : *TV-PG* So, by that logic, and definition, TTG should have been more mature (right on par with _Adventure Time_ and _Steven Universe_ ). It's kind of ironic how the original show (made for 7-year-olds) is much more adult compared to the current show (made for a slightly older audience).

[@g.b.f9859]

You are conflating "failing at maturity" with "not trying to be mature." By which I could then argue, the original Teen Titans is terrible because it was too mature for its intended audience,. Each show was aiming for a different tone and as Doug said, a different ratio of serious/silly.

[@Swiftbow]

Y7 doesn't mean made for 7 year-olds. It means 7 year-olds are old enough to watch it by the nebulous standards of the ratings overlords.

[@ShoulderMonster]

Wow...

[@1805movie]

Swiftbow That's fair.

[@ryanhawkins2227]

Ryan Hartwell don't compare it to Steven universe! That show is fucking well designed wonderful stories (except the shitty uncle grandpa crossover) covered difficult subjects like lesbian characters (yet the British censorship dumbasses tried to make ruby a male and look how that turned out!), difficult stories and wonderful character development

[@ryleyfreedatouretteskid2to582]

I lost it at " This one focused on waffles." XD

[@royaleroque7716]

PianXtreme I'm surprised he didn't mention the episode with pie.

[@captainbirch9835]

@@royaleroque7716 wasn't the pie episode literally the first one?

[@pinkiepoolgamerbrony2789]

Waffles is NOT FUNNY

[@YuukiTakemoto1996]

Pie Bros.

[@tatltails3923]

Evil Beware, we have waffles.

[@cliffclark2285]

Can't we all just agree that The Amazing World of Gumball is seriously underappreciated as far as shows on cartoon network go?

[@andrewkim9848]

Yes! finally someone who knows that the best show isn’t “Trauma and Singing equals character development” (Steven Universe)

[@dernekromantsino4109]

Andrew Kim , basically half of CN shows post Adventure Time , Gumball is a blessing between the cheap stupidity of TT: Go and the pretentiousness of AT and his clones .

[@superstarultra28]

Totally agree with you, dude. Gumball is a modern masterpiece.

[@LasagaMan]

no. its been over aired at one point well and everyone the cucktoon crapmunity loves it

[@thema1998]

@@LasagaMan How is the cartoon community a "cucktoon crapmunity"?

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

"These characters were not designed for this show" - THANK YOU! Finally someone gets it. And how their personalities are all the same, while they were very different originally

[@sweetgirlandhercats]

And that's why the Teen Titans Shorts (DC Shorts) were pretty good. Because while it focused on comedy, the art was the the same as 2003 but the personalities stayed pretty intact. Like the one short where Raven's father visit her at Titans tower and gives her a bunny and she destroys it.

[@jerry544]

I got an answer for you, Doug. We end up watching it because its always on! The schedule has calmed down with the constant spamming of TTG reruns that we put up with a short time ago but it still takes over the channel. I haven't had a genuine desire to watch CN in almost a year beyond TiVo recordings of new episodes to other shows and to have noise in the background when I'm playing a game because more often than not its TTG thats on and worse then that its usually the same few episodes on repeat for about a month before they switch it up. Trying to get back into watching CN to see if any of the new shows are any good but I swear I can't just leave it on all day like I used to

[@disneygirl884]

I agree with you 100%. Also I still can`t get over how bad they screwed over Regular Show before their series finale.

[@realJoeMavro]

With all of the other channels on television and the advantage of netflix and the internet, that excuse can only go so far. It's good that you don't watch CN so much anymore. The only thing CN-related worth watching now is Toonami and of course it's dumping ground, Boomerang.

[@ShadyDoorags]

This. In college, I liked listening to cartoons as background noise and tried to get into some shows like Steven Universe, Gumball and Adventure Time, but Teen Titans Go was ALWAYS on. If I wanted to see a show, I had to wait through a two hour block of TTG and then my show was followed by another 2 hour block of it. I did not hate this show, but I got so freaking tired of seeing itand it's same played out jokes, I wound up just turning off CN all together.

[@tatsuostatic8567]

disneygirl884 For real. Thank goodness that Adventure Time has a marathon coming on Labor Day to rap up the end of the series

[@disneygirl884]

Yeah at least Cartoon Network is giving Adventure Time respect. After a very long time Cartoon Network finally did something right

[@Nx57ytre]

I really do not like Teen Titans Go! but I think the main reason for the hatred towards the series is because of the really bad decisions of Cartoon Network in recent years. First they canceled Young Justice and Green Lantern, besides they stopped doing the animated shorts of DC Nation. Sure, then we had Justice League Action, but many fans of comics and action cartoons were really disappointed. So, Cartoon Network started making cartoons with the same base, like the remakes of Powerpuff Girls and Ben 10. One can argue that these new series are actually worse than Teen Titans Go! because they were made to follow a trend, not because of a desicion of their creatives who wanted to do something different. Again, many fans were angry at what we saw as a lack of respect for those characters. Finally, Cartoon Network has the bad habit of giving Teen Titans Go! all the damn time. If they use a more organized schedule that would give better series more often, people would not be so fucked up. But instead, they give 4 hours of Teen Titans Go! per day and marathons of 3 days in a row.

[@JONATAN-VELAZQUEZ]

Young justice was cancelled because was to expensive, even if the ttgo didnt exist yj was going to be cancelled

[@JONATAN-VELAZQUEZ]

The show is a simple humor parody thats why the animation its simple

[@toatahu2003]

The reason for the hate: Warner Bros LIED. When the show was announced, the fans were told that the show would be the Teen Titans characters, but in more down to earth, comedic situations. There were even previews that the fans overall really liked. Everyone was SUPER hyped for this new show. And then... We didn't get the Teen Titans. Like Doug said, we got... The same character. Worse than that, each Titan is a mockery of their original. Robin is an overattached psychopath, Raven is and emo putting on a front, if she even bothers pretending, Cyborg and Beast Boy are the exact same person, with zero serious qualities, and Starfire is the most 2-dimensional of them all... This WASN'T the Teen Titans. We were lied to. We were promised steak, and we bit into a chocolate cake... I can appreciate the show for what it is. It CAN be clever at times, and it is somewhat funny. I can also fully understand the abject HATRED old fans of the show have for TTG.

[@malmasterson3890]

Oh don't even get me started on the new Ben 10. I'm f*cking ballistic about it. They couldn't even put in the old villains except the main one. Ben 10 was a great 3 era series that ended on a high note. Why tf they gotta ruin it those bastards.

[@Iqbalx1]

Nx57ytre it doesn’t help that newer cartoons are trying to imitate teen titans go

[@Connor_Tyler]

Personally, I dislike TTG because it's another mindless, colorful, time wasting cartoon that exists almost solely as something for parents to put their children in front of to keep them occupied for an hour. Same reason I didn't like the PPG reboot or any of the last few years of Nickelodeon. I don't hate it, because I literally don't really care enough about it to do so. I loved the original series, and am kind of sad the reboot is such a disappointment, but that's about it. I will, however, acknowledge that that Make-A-Wish thing they did was an incredibly nice thing to do for that kid, and the crew has my admiration for doing that for him.

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

...OK. I'm going to span this because it seems nobody will let this show fall into obscurity if they keep talk about it: DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!!

[@Jasper_HD]

Connor Tyler it’s a show made for toddlers, not kids that can comprehend big storylines. Just ignore it.

[@theALTF4]

to be honest, i kind of apreciate that they invited the fan to the show... but he had little to no participation on it (his voice was ... not so good for voiceacting, i get it). but that episode, for me, felt like a blatant pitty-washing from the creators to clean their image: the episode was ALL AROUND TTG fans and how they should love them indiscriminatedly and acritically, and they didn't iclude him in a meaningful way. Maybe they could've made an episode aluding to the kids condition and how he can live with it (was kidneys' related as far as i remember), or about aceptance of the diferences or... ANYTHING rather than utilizing him for wash their image... for me that episode ws pathetic and rather manipulative... And you know what's the worst part? i LIKE teen titans go! and find it a silly TT parody and it makes me chuckle here and there because it's 4-wall/parody/ironic tone, but i consider that the lowest the series has done; hell! i dislike TT fans and their stupid zealot attitude towards TTG, (despite i LOVING the original TT, like, bros... it's just a cartoon, get over it nsotalgiafags) but that episode wasn't bad... it was WRONG.

[@calebhelterbrand6306]

I’m in that same boat. I hate it more for what it represents than what it is. With a 1 year old nephew, he loves this show, and I will admit every once and a while, it makes me chuckle. But shows like this opened way to do the same thing, dumbing down shows like Ben 10 and PowerPuff girls. It’s just a stupid mentality. I’ve also seen haters say that the Make-A-Wish thing was only done to attack haters. But, I haven’t seen the episode so I don’t know how it went.

[@ColdNorth0628]

They did kinda use the make a wish kid in that episode

[@kookio4284]

I think people watch the new Teen Titans Go is because it literally takes up 60% of Cartoon Network's tv schedule. We are nearly forced to come across it if we wanna watch Cartoon Network

[@kylemccabe1863]

I just wait for something else to come on the channel so I can watch something I actually like

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

You can always change the channel you know.

[@amtrak_121]

#cancelteentitansgo

[@philipmarable8698]

We had Scooby Doo and its many incarnations overplayed back then.

[@Beacuzz]

I appreciate the respect you showed for both. I am a fan of the original and was very pissed when ttg came on. But as a matureing adult I'll admit it has good moments. I enjoy a few of the times it makes fun of itself. Personal favorite, the time Control Freak showed them TT. They showed the differences and the characters had good reactions to the changes. It was actually fun to see. So again thank you for your respect and care.

[@lexzetusko]

yea that control freak episode gave me a grudging respect for the show, but then theres redubbing the first episode of OG TT as TTG

[@unoriginalusername6408]

Actually, calm people like you are actually needed.

[@Beacuzz]

@@unoriginalusername6408 I'm just too tired to fight every time someone pisses on a piece of my childhood.

[@unoriginalusername6408]

Why fighting over some cartoons? i don't understand why people does that..

[@SwordsZenny]

I think it's out of pride or appreciation. Kind of like if someone bullies a family member or a close friend. Just replace your friend/family with a pet rock and now everyone involved might as well be on 4chan.

[@readeroftheelderscrolls]

Well, TTG did one good thing: I accidentally watched one episode and remembered I knew the characters from somewhere... So I rediscovered original TT and that was awesome.

[@ThanksHermione]

Teen Titans Go would be liked more if in the U.S. it didn't make up the majority of Cartoon Network's schedule. That's irritating no matter what the quality of the show.

[@MrNico494]

Thanks Hermione I’m not sure if it would have been liked more, but I think it could have been more tolerable if it wasn’t the only thing that they air.

[@clintbrew]

it the the same in the UK too with TTG yet they have hiatuses for adventure time and steven universe

[@quietone2674]

Agreed. I could watch the show for...maybe an hour: four episodes. It's not the one I loved, but it's often funny, and I can get into it to waste some time. But the 6 hours a day thing was (is? I don't know if they're still doing it) ridiculous.

[@Sesshomaru474]

I like to say doubt it. If I remember correctly back then they made marathons for shows lasting the whole day.. or until late at night like 11? Literally from 7am to 10pm only Dexter's Laboratory, Powerpuff Girls, (insert good cartoons here). I cringe more than I laugh when watching this, the only reason it's popular it's because kids like it. And sadly they don't know what a good cartoon is as for the most part the shows they like *are mostly* made and appeal to kids only.

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

True, I don't want Gravity falls blaster 24/7 and I like that show. I watched the movie and it was genuinely funny.

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

This video actually made me watch "Teen Titans". I'm a fan now. Thanks Doug ☺

[@keylessbacon]

Woo Join the fanbase

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Here's the thing, if TTG wasn't so aggressive with its meta humor no one would be outraged or even care. TTGO goes out of its way to attack the audience and flaunt that the old show isn't around anymore. Once the original series comes back, which it will due to the TTGO movie's after credits scene, I'm sure the hate will die down once there's an alternative.

[@enderborn6860]

oh yeah there was that with the ogs sort of stuck

[@dragonstouch1042]

MrZurata Also, CN needs to open up the schedule a bit

[@mysticalkeyblade759]

the teen titans go is for kids. It was never intended for the older viewers

[@CuddyTG]

People were outraged from the first episode. If anything the meta humor lessened some of the hate. Plus it's honestly gotten better.

[@hansnystrompastor8690]

I just love the way that the cloths smooths with the wind, you are right, raven and the rest of us agrees that the old one was just awesome

[@Demonslayer232]

To answer your question Critic, for a while Teen Titans Go was ALL Cartoon Network was showing--you could hardly, if ever, tune in to Cartoon Network without them showing TTG, or promoting the hell out of it. Also, for a so-called 'kids' show', they go out of their way to attack their critics way too often, while portraying their 'heroes' as selfish, unlikable brats who will screw each other over to get what they want.

[@chrisgreig98]

Demonslayer232 In all honesty though when have you ever seen a good guy who didn't secretly have an agenda? No one in the public eye is good for the sake of being good, I think that TTG is basically showing us that the Titans are like our celebrities. Do you really think they go to kids hospitals and all that stuff because they truely want to? Or are they there to make themselves look good?...

[@sapphirewriter8349]

Oh he knows about that. In the last review he did of TTG movie and I think another review, he said he saw that and was surprised by that. There's many reasons to hate TTG to be honest.

[@blixer8384]

Christopher Greig The Writers of Teen Titans go intentionally go out of their way to piss off fans of the old show and to shit on their critics. I think you’re reading to deeply into their shit-astic writing.

[@Skallva]

@@chrisgreig98 Just fyi, if you're interesting in this kind of a conflict, you can watch My Hero Academia. That's basically what the show is about, alongside fun battles and characters.

[@Colind8]

They were once playing reruns of Teen Titans at a regular time. It was pretty cool

[@MegaSoulHero]

I don’t like Teen Titans Go, but the live action Titans series looks a lot worse.

[@justinsigler1565]

Give it a chance you don't know it ment be good

[@GuyontheInternet525]

You don't know that it could be as good as the original maybe even better

[@PineberryLive]

MegaSoulHero There’s a live action one!?

[@rebbecawitt581]

Yes

[@Mr.Severyn]

MegaSoulHero “TTG looks awful” *finds (I guess just T)Titans* “O FUCK PLEASE MORE TTG”

[@nyxshadowhawk]

I definitely agree with the ultimate conclusion: Teen Titans Go wouldn't be NEARLY as bad if it was its own show with its own characters and NOT a "remake" of an older show with a different genre and more nuanced storytelling. If its characters were unique to it, it would be fine. Because they're not, it feels like it's shitting all over the original.

[@hayden3776]

I say the old show is a lot better then this new show. (its just my opinion)

[@AbareKillerFan-yo7pe]

Agreed

[@EveryThingGirl238]

@@luciacolomara6313 First rule of '!' points taught in class, the more you use, the less impact it has. Just saying.

[@justinesun7270]

Lucia Colomara The old show is better compared to your shitty GO! show.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

haydan101 I agree with you entirely that the original Teen Titans cartoon series and the Young Justice cartoon series were way better than Teen Titans Go, and I’m so glad that Young Justice made fun of Teen Titans Go whenever Teen Titans Go made fun of Young Justice because Teen Titans Go is entirely a shitty series.

[@thiccnicc3657]

@@luciacolomara6313 Are you 4? Nobody over the age of 5 knows not to use so many exclamation marks

[@MmeCShadow]

I think part of the issue is that it's not just 'it's own thing', it's Teen Titans. It's the same voice actors and the same character designs (art style notwithstanding) and the same environment, turned into something that the original never was and using the Teen Titans television brand to ride the original's coattails. If this were just another wacky comedy with a different set of characters -- even parodies of the television Titans, or at least *different designs* -- it wouldn't be such an issue, it would at least be justified as being its own thing. But it's not. It's explicitly Teen Titans. It's taking advantage of a pre-established fanbase. There's no reason it *had* to be Teen Titans if it going to go off in such a different direction, but it made a very intentional decision to do so. It's absurd to think that it just wanted to do its own thing or it would have been its own IP. Compare to Ducktales 2017: it's different than the original run, it has a much more modern style, its beats and humor and characterization are done completely differently, but it works because it has the same heart and it respects its history. Or going back a little more, TMNT 2012: it's more modern in its style and references and was met with some trepidation when it was first teased, but it's clear that its creators have a real love of the franchise and not only got the *feel* of the Turtles right, but paid homage to the many different Turtles histories and universes and it's a beloved series. Hell, look at My Little Pony; it's not strictly a reboot, but it was another unexpected franchise revival that was made by people who loved and wanted to do right by the original series. These reboots felt like they happened because there was something to add to their franchises, because there were stories to tell and they wanted to be told, like somebody had a real idea for a revival and pitched that first (and even if it was a more cynical marketing decision, they still wanted to make something *good*). Things like Teen Titans Go!, meanwhile, feel like an executive was flipping through their IPs and said "Hey, nostalgia! We can make money off this!" The cynicism is palpable. The fact that TTG! is itself so cynical (using entire episodes to misrepresent legitimate complaints and their detractors, their audience, and the original show) just drives the point home. That, I think, is why people hate TTG! It's not just because the original Teen Titans was given the shaft and its replacement is of such reduced quality, it's that it exists as it does solely to take advantage of its name brand. ...that and Cartoon Network's programming is, like, 87% TTG! by volume and that's really obnoxious I don't care what program you're showing.

[@OkaerinOfficial]

+Chaos Shadow wym?? I don't see TTG! on the website schedule at all

[@OkaerinOfficial]

Does it differ based on region? I'm in Canada

[@OkaerinOfficial]

Nevermind i looked up america's schedule. Oh dear

[@imaran3018]

I hope you don't mind me copying this, because this entails all that I hate of TTG.

[@talined2716]

*insert gif of the guy clapping* this is EXACTLY the issue Plus the fact that they changed key aspects of all the characters' personalities (Raven is not always emotionless and is often an idiot, Star mostly exists to mispronounce things and turn down Robin, Robin became obsessed with proving he's the best and is now the butt of like 90% of the jokes because "he's so dark and mysterious" lol Robin ok, and BB and Cyborg are basically carbon copies of each other)

[@Matkaizer08]

I'm surprised that he didn't even mention the fact that it gotten Marathon to hell and back so much which pissed people off even further

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

That's a criticism that should be aimed at the network, not necessarily the show.

[@semosayba]

EXACTLY! HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO ENJOY OTHER CARTOON NETWORK SHOWS IF ALL THE NETWORK IS AIRING IS ONE CARTOON?

[@NepBeard]

enterman Use the internet like literally everyone else in the current year does

[@rezanox6699]

This is why I think TTG has such a bad rep. It isn't as horrible as people build up in their heads. If it aired maybe a tenth of the times it does, it wouldn't be trashed nearly as hard. Like the Critic said, the OG is better, but not by as much as people believe.

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Through piracy...:D

[@SpagEddie8113]

Why do I now want “Three Stooges: End Game”

[@Coolrecords567]

Same

[@carloslopezortega3327]

Honestly I want to see Silly stuff.

[@MelBrooksFan78]

Hey Moe, hey Larry! I don't feel so good...

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

"If you don't like it why are you watching it?" 4 words Critic *Cartoon Network Poor Schedule*

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

and i mean seriously everyday everytime is TTG TTG all day Cartoon Network more like TTG network

[@Que_Drum]

Elias Nicolas Miranda last year they ran it from Dec 20th all the way to new years

[@sodaddict]

Or you could just switch to Sling TV and get CN Canada live along with its shows on demand.

[@boshwa20]

Oh yeah! They're totally holding you hostage by gunpoint to watch their shit!! LET'S JUST IGNORE THE AVAILABLE STREAMING SERVICES AND KZbin!!!!!!

[@notquiteordinary]

Here's a bombshell for you: You don't have to watch Cartoon Network.

[@KyProRen]

I will admit while I DO prefer to NOT watch Teen Titans Go! I do like how Nostalgia critic sees the ups AND downs of it which is a sign that it's actually doing *something* right. For me though, I think the only thing *Teen Titans Go! related* thing I'll watch is Teen Titans Go! to the Movies. That movie (to me) is basically what the show is *intended* to be like, but with a better execution.

[@Acsilverfish360]

A good critic doesn't get shit on a property. A good critic shows the ups and the downs. And I 100% agree with you, he did a great analitical view on them.

[@kappapond]

While I don't like the show (don't hate either) it's nice that someone sees some of the good in it

[@shadowbyname2802]

There is no ups. Plain and simple. I can think of almost absolutely no redeeming qualities of Teen Titans Go.

[@nicklovejoy6451]

Oh, then watch the video.

[@kappapond]

^

[@bashbro1able]

THANK YOU. My number one problem with TTG is that they are all the exact same character. It's always more funny to watch personalities collide and clash, but if they're all the same and give similar reactions to everything, it just gets old and boring. If they kept the comedy while keeping characters at least a little true to their original selves, I think it'd be a much better show. I wouldn't say the hate TTG gets is unjustified. I think there's a few reasons for it. Like you said, the timing was bad. The biggest insult is that they got ALL of the original voice actors and instead of getting a revival of the original show, their talent is being wasted on this. Imagine if Batman the Animated Series got cancelled in 1995 and in 2000, you got something like Batman: The Brave and the Bold with ALL of the original VAs returning to voice their characters in a childish comedic show of overly meta satire. Maybe if this show came out twenty years later or something, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But when the possibility of a continuation of something you love is dangled in front of you like a carrot, but out of reach in favor of something clearly lessened in quality, it's frustrating. That being said, I don't hate Teen Titans Go and while I think it's dumb, it can be fun sometimes and there's actually some interesting ideas in there. But I get the hate. I agree that ignoring a show is the best way to hurt it where it matters, but that's only if you want it dead and forgotten and never spoken of again. That's not the case with TTG. People hate on it mostly because they want the return of the original, in which case, you very much do need to make your criticism and complaints loud and clear in order for those in authority to get the memo. It's not just that people hate it. They hate it, but they also WANT something else. So, I wouldn't say it's as simple as "just ignore it." I believe the outcry is what resulted in the potential revival of the original show that now seems like a possibility. So I think there's still SOME merit to expressing discontentment and dissatisfaction depending on the context.

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!!

[@bashbro1able]

Manuel Alberto Romero But... did you read my actual comment? I quite clearly said I don't hate TTG, but I was just trying to explain why I believe it gets as much hate as it does and why I think, in some contexts, it's a little justified.

[@bashbro1able]

Ur Waifu is Shit Well normally, I might agree if this were a random kids show with no connection or ties to a previous franchise that brings our current age of young adults a lot of nostalgia, but this is a case where I think it's more understandable. To have all of the original VAs back from a childhood favorite show only to not get a continuation after a cancellation is understandably frustrating. I'd argue that the adults who complained are what resulted in the potential revival of the original show. If you want to make the argument that "BUT IT'S FOR KIDS", so was the original Teen Titans.

[@bashbro1able]

I never said one is better than the other. If you read my comment, that was not the argument I was trying to make at all. And yes, there's always been dumb kids shows, but just because that's the case, I don't think that's a good excuse. I think people should always push for better quality, no matter what the demographic. Kids deserve better than just shoving anything down their throat and surmising it up to "well it's a kids show, kids r dumb." And like I said, TTG isn't really just any old kids show. Let's imagine that these were all original characters that had absolutely no connection to the original - I get the feeling people wouldn't give a shit or bat an eye. The problem is that they're taking essentially the same characters from a childhood favorite show and making a 180 out of them. They didn't even really redesign them. For example, replace the characters of Spongebob with characters from Avatar the Last Airbender with all of the original voice actors in a brand new animated series instead of making a follow-up to the unresolved (excluding the comic) plot thread of Zuko's missing mother and people MIGHT have more of a problem. If this was the type of show they wanted to make, they could have at least done their own thing, created their own original superhero characters, and not take advantage of the popularity of something that was once beloved by so many. But for the record, I don't mind that TTG is a comedy with no character development or drama, I just hate that the characters are all self-centered assholes who make the same jokes. They can't really bounce off each other, unlike the Looney Tunes, which had extremely clever writing where every character is still unique to themselves.

[@xenodude4718]

The only difference is that kids with a brain hate this shit show aswell

[@hufflepuffler2575]

Old: plot, humor, feels, not afraid to touch on dark subjects. New: humor, humor, no personality, slice of life, treats dark subjects like its the plauge

[@isobelmiller7464]

A show that focuses mainly on comedy, has little plot, and doesn't bother with dark subjects can still be good. Tell me how TTG is bad at what it tries to do.

[@zekehd2093]

Isobel Miller it’s sucks deal with it

[@isobelmiller7464]

@@zekehd2093 I'm not saying TTG is good; I used to be a fan of it, but not anymore. I just hate how people judge it for not teaching serious morals and stuff like that. It tries to be a stupid comedy, therefore it should be judged as one.

[@pointless_gaming267]

Isobel Miller I like Original Teen Titans but do I hate the fans. All they do is compare the show to TTG and it gets so annoying

[@joshthesquishy7142]

Well they made a crappy choice making it, I rather watch the live action Disney movies

[@Loudmouth_Dice]

The reason why ppl keep watching it is because it's the only thing on if you go turn on your tv I bet it's teen titans go

[@boshwa20]

You know what TV has? Multiple channels.

[@Ham-Prince]

Boshwa you know what other channels don't have? Exclusive shows in CN.

[@boshwa20]

@@Ham-Prince Exclusive shows that you can easily find access to online. Have you even HEARD of the concept of streaming?

[@MrBassem95]

@@Ham-Prince but you know what time those shows come on...

[@OmegaX5000]

I can attest to this, any time I turned on my TV to CN, unless it's the Saturday Toonami block, it's always been airing TTG.

[@ThanksHermione]

If you like Teen Titans Go, fine. If you don't like it, fine. I'm just annoyed when people say that the only reason that the fans of the original show don't like it is because it isn't what the original was. I can enjoy multiple versions of Batman whether it be Adam West or Kevin Conroy. I look at adaptations in their own right as if I'd never seen previous ones. Personally, I don't like Teen Titans Go because I see it as just a bad cartoon. I don't like the humor most of the time and think that the characters are awful. I agree with Nostalgia Critic that the hate that people have for Teen Titans Go is what seems to fuel the show. Some people who complain about it though do it because they want entertainment to get better, just like Nostalgia Critic. (That and so that he can amuse us with his humor making fun of bad stuff.)

[@noahbusch7542]

Thank you.

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

Thanks Hermione I was going to write more, but your named summed up my response. Have a like.

[@TSMiller97]

Thank you!!! You are spot on!!!

[@stevenbowen8098]

I agree with you your views

[@xgray2012]

At least we can all agree that this upcoming live-action Titans series is going to suck because of this horrendous "being dark and edgy for the sake of being dark and edgy" tone.

[@theblackmanwholaughs6670]

The main problem I have with TTGO it that it was entirely unnecessary... everyone uses the excuse that CN is targeting a certain demographic but that would assume that the demographic they are targeting wouldn't like something along the lines of the original TT... which is BS. It's just another instance of TV networks not having respect for young viewers... the same kids that enjoy TTGO would also enjoy the original it's not like the show was too complex for them... it shows that CN is completely out of touch and don't understand that alot of the past generation of kids(90's kids) never grew out of liking animated entertainment like the generation before them did.... and they are ignoring a huge portion of potential viewers... THIS IS WHY ANIME IS WINNING...

[@axilman1014]

@powerstar 2028Lets guess English isn't your first language.

[@houndofculann1793]

@powerstar 2028 it's not your typing that's the problem, your sentences barely even make sense. If you even had sentences. "If ya can read my typing there's no problems" well, I would consider it a problem that you look like a preschooler who is angry for not getting his candy this week. Nobody will give your opinions any consideration

[@houndofculann1793]

@powerstar 2028 Nobody was talking about being perfect. You are barely coherent. There is a pretty large variety of acceptable positions between "barely coherent" and "perfect". In addition you stated you're not interested in bettering your basic communication skills, so you really aren't in a position to complain if other people are not interested in trying to understand you

[@xojnowns1520]

@powerstar 2028 ​ r/iamverysmart

[@crocuslament9680]

@powerstar 2028 Just out of curiosity, what anime have you been watching? Seriously. Because you sound like one of those people who's only ever been exposed to hentai or, I don't know, Evangelion or something.

[@thomaskelly597]

1:35 Well.., the original Titans Tower of the Comics was within the state of New York, and Metropolis is part of the state of New York, so I suppose you meant that one. But with respect to the Titans Tower specifically of the universe of the TTG series, that one is near of a city named "Jump City", which is also in the state of California. However, Jump City does not exist in TT (2003), since the name of the city near of that Titans Tower is never mentioned or specified in that series, but the film Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo, confirmed that the Tower of it is also in the state of California.

[@joshjacobs6276]

nerd

[@Zoogore6777]

I think Jump city was mentioned in the comics they made for the 2003 show.

[@hopefulhyena3400]

Metropolis is actually in Delaware Edit: and before you ask, Gotham is in southern New Jersey

[@zion653]

Just imagine if they brought back Batman: The Animated Series as Batman:TAS GO! with Batman bumbling about and screaming about waffles, and you will understand clearly why fans of the original Teen Titans simply can't stand Teen Titans GO!

[@braedensteele3184]

well, think about this. the original TT was 50/50 goofy and serious, like avatar. TTGO is full on goofy. what if they did full on dark, which they are doing now it seems with TITANS. so, maybe the TT are meant to be a true dramady.

[@clearcasket1555]

I hate to break it to you, but in TTG series, they drug Batman through the dirt too.

[@mentaya11]

Good analogy

[@icecreamhero2375]

I would actually love that also there are many versions of Batman that are very different that is how superheroes work.

[@icecreamhero2375]

Avatar is alright but I like TTG better the cartoony cartoons are more fun.

[@hhlaxbro]

16:09 I think you should see a doctor. We’re concerned about your health.

[@marley7868]

I'm not he's got a fairy

[@Tessseract_]

HHlaxbro q

[@Tessseract_]

HHlaxbro **immediately throws child in trash for pushing all the buttons**

[@mr.outlaw231]

@@sydneyhamilton2575 No... not... that. Quick, grab as many religious priests as you can. Religion doesn't matter, just get them. Gods help us all.

[@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669]

SAM, GET THE FUCKING HOLY WATER.

[@AltyDjango3380]

Nostalgia critic is what I live for

[@TBB_productions]

I know right

[@swolby9230]

Your life must be pathetic.

[@julianx2rl]

Just don't get on his way. He might shoot U.

[@TBB_productions]

@Bobby Syblik you are right

[@swolby9230]

@Bobby Syblik Yeah, but living for it is a bit extreme. No one should live for an internet channel.

[@MasterGeek-mk5ne]

Nostalgic Critic is my hero. He said exactly what i always through about Teen Titans GO. If you hate it, don't waste you time watching something you don't like it.

[@MasterGeek-mk5ne]

Harnett Sarah grab your cellphone and watch something else. Or grab a magazine. Anything is better then watch it.

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

No shit no one is gonna watch it, they already left when the network featured that TTG 24/7. People wanna watch different shit.

[@JamaicanMeGiggle]

11:02 "But what's the ultimate reason for this choice?" Me: The porn is better? "These characters were designed for this show." Me: Oh. That too, I guess.

[@-et37-]

JamaicanMeGiggle *cough* **Zone** *cough*

[@Artista_Frustrado]

you say that... but there's some really good Goth Tara Strong out there

[@bluepaulsbluepauls8887]

@@Artista_Frustrado🤣 do you mean raven

[@Artista_Frustrado]

nah in TTG Lady Legasus is pretty much just Tara Strong's twitter account

[@Registeel13Ty]

>shadman

[@howdypardner6278]

Original Teen Titans: Good Teen Titans GO!: No Live action shit: get me out of heeeeeeeere

[@naotatheendlessesper]

Posser

[@Maretoast]

TT- perfect TTG- WTF T- WAKE ME UP INSIDE

[@NEOIVAN100]

The live action is gonna make Teen Titans GO! look like The Justice League AS by comparison.... God have mercy on our souls

[@lovingloser_210]

I don't think Titans is that bad

[@sadlobster1]

Everything the Critic said about the Titans being unfit for a comedy genre is true. Taking these characters who worked hard to connect with one another and become strong heroes/individuals...and then throwing them into a world where they're nothing but selfish, inconsiderate pricks to not only the city but each other. That feels like a tremendous slap to the face. Before people decide to say I'm "not part of the target demographic; so, the show's not meant for you." Let me just say...you might be right. HOWEVER...I hate how networks are making shows strictly for one age group. That works for Disney Jr. and Nick Jr. because those blocks are meant to educate the wee ones. But when you use that business sense in making other programs, it just doesn't seem fair. People who grew up in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's saw shows that appealed to both kids AND older audiences. Avatar: The Last Airbender, Foster's, Billy & Mandy and Samurai Jack (just to name a few) are examples of how well this works when done the RIGHT way. Today, however; with the world in the "television is dying" mindset. It feels like animation is doomed to remain in a state of fart jokes, meme humor and tasteless references like TTG is doing

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Japan says otherwise...

[@Jamfrog35]

Thus why there should be a balance with the schedule with every show. I mean if you just show one show or one aimed for one group of the audience, then it's not a network for all or a show for all, it would just be just call a teen titans go channel. Yes it is successful, yes you are aiming for kids, but don't you think it's better to give other shows a chance? Nuff said.

[@sonnic1995]

you're totally right... and it's weird how both CN and Disney have put some "childish looking" cartoons (Adventure Time, Gravity Falls) but instead of following the path of a smarth, funny and clever story cartoon, they go with "weird" because it's a trend, specially cartoon network... and i "blame" Adventure Time for it, AT did fine because the over the top comedy and weirdness also had a deep story, but now it's just lazy weirdness for the sake of being weird, and lazy designs for cheaper animation (Ben 10, Thundercats Roar, the new power puff girls)... i remember in some cartoons and live action shows, had like one weird character, Drake And Josh had Gavin, and Crazy Steve, every scene they were in they just delivered a nonesense line or did something crazy, but it didn't happen too often, like once per episode.... then all shows feature one weird character on their main cast, if not the entire cast is like that... I was like 20 when i first watched Gravity Falls, and that says a lot, it's not an adult show, it's a kid's one adults can enjoy... i also grew up watching re-runs of original Ducktales, and can totally watch the new reboot, becuase it's done in a smart way... on the other hand, i can't watch TT-Go, new PPGirls, Ben 10...

[@latrellboddie8906]

*western animation. And sadlobster1 is right. CN, Nickelodeon, and Disney have all gone downhill and have resorted to pandering. TTG is just another example

[@nekonomicon9938]

I agree. TTG is essentially a one trick pony. It can appeal and impress sometimes but overall it lacks a balance that is necessary that makes the 2000 Teen Titans so great.

[@macavitythenardier]

"I want something so bad, I can't believe it!!" ...Be careful what you wish for (because my friends, boy did he get it).

[@amtrak_121]

What did he get?

[@Loremastrful]

I wasn't a fan of either TT versions. I'd prefer Young Justice. But there is one thing that really bites at me. Call it Eldest Child Angst. Teen Titans strikes me as the oldest child. It works hard and after all that WB was like 'yeah whatever. Teen Titans Go is the youngest child. The one that drops his pants and everyone laughs and gives another season order. It really strikes my fairness nerve hard. Old TT worked its ass off and WB seemed to look for reasons to yank it. TTG barely wakes up in the morning and Cartoon Network wallpapers on multi-hour blocks. Any older siblings who get what I'm saying?

[@tvccreator_elysius]

Exactly. It feels like TTG is half-assing what Teen Titans worked very hard on perfecting. I know exactly what you mean. I have three younger siblings and the youngest harp on me for hating TTG. They don't understand what made the original such a memorable experience and a greatly superior show.

[@MsSphinx91]

Yeah I remember having to be very vigilant about when Teen Titans was showing, or else I'd miss the window of opportunity to watch it. Then, for whatever reason, they started showing the "hi hi something yaki yumi show" (I can't be bothered to search the real name) right after each new episode, instead of maybe a rerun or two... I just couldn't figure out their game... Between this, Arrested Development, and Avatar the last Airbender, it seemed like networks didn't give a shit about the shows I liked. This is why people are dropping cable.

[@paolocalapatia6401]

I grew up with Teen Titans... but even I admit Young Justice is definitely is its superior, especially their Robin :)

[@tetragaming6332]

I understand it. And young justice is the middle child who tried to do something that'd make the oldest sibling and the parents proud of them.

[@jerekheadrick3379]

I'd have to disagree on the YJ vs original TT. I think I liked teen titans better because while young justice is a great show it spreads itself very thin among it's cast of characters. The tight nit group that is the Teen titans could spend hours developing dynamics between these 5 characters and how every new situation changed them.

[@saphirawinters7028]

I already know the answer before even watching the video. Original Teen Titans for the win!!!

[@comicmiracle9216]

Oh yeah, definitly, I HATE TEEN TITANS GO.

[@manuellara9644]

Saphira Winters hundredth

[@patricklauer4452]

Saphira Winters obviously!

[@ButterStick64]

Like when he did the original Willy Wonka versus the Tim Burton Reboot

[@Dominthearound]

FTW MY DUDE, srsly tho wtf Cartoon Network, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT?!

[@monstermastergodzilla6813]

Original Teen Titans is a million times superior than Teen Titans Go!

[@mysticalkeyblade759]

Monster Master Gojira TTG is very funny!

[@James35142]

How can anyone above the age of 5 find the characters interesting?

[@Edgytainment]

Robert Small *Unfunny

[@mysticalkeyblade759]

James Tapp i saw the movie. It was good. There was an episode about the dangers of pyramid schemes

[@mysticalkeyblade759]

Mr. Steal Your Soul I honestly mean funny. The latest episode made me laugh genuinely

[@guyonyoutube3850]

to quote Nostagia Critic's Ghostbusters 2016 review: If a movie (in this case show) was enough to ruin your childhood, then you barley had one to begin with.

[@mc-rn8ro]

TTG didn't ruin my childhood, because thankfully I have memories of how amazing the original Teen Titans was. I just feel bad for the little kids who grew up thinking TTG was an accurate representation of the comics; especially nowadays when comic book movies are trending more toward darker or at least more complex storylines. Imagine going from "tee hee, WAFFLES!!" to "Jason Todd took a crowbar to the dome , Batman's parents were shot in front of him, Iron Man was an alcoholic/is dying/died to save humanity, and Superman is an orphan whose planet blew up." At least WE had TT to ease us into the harsh stuff. Kids who grew up on TTG were thrown into the deep end without a floatie.

[@RadicalRickEntertainment]

The best thing about TTG? It's so terrible it makes people really appreciate how amazing the first show was.

[@paladinboyd1228]

KZbinr Radical Rick, The one thing they got right was how Robin was afraid of batman, when he was minding the bat cave.

[@RadicalRickEntertainment]

I wish I could say I saw that episode of Go to verify what you say is true, but I can't handle seeing more than 1 or 2 minutes of it without feeling nauseous. I applaud your capacity to sustain it's obnoxiousness.

[@paladinboyd1228]

KZbinr Radical Rick, Thank you. Here’s the clip. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIXKeJSVqZiAg6c It’s 50 seconds long.

[@RadicalRickEntertainment]

I think I can endure 50 seconds lol

[@paladinboyd1228]

KZbinr Radical Rick, Good luck.

[@Xarestrill]

I never saw the original Teen Titans, so I can't compare it to the several episodes of Teen Titans Go I saw when I was stuck in a hospital for a week. It was "slightly" better than laying in bed staring at the wall. The animation was meh, there was no story, and no real character to the characters. The jokes and dialogue somehow came across as more basic than a bugs bunny cartoon, with even less point. I was a bit loopy from a very high fever when i started watching it, but I swear there was one episode celebrating how poorly done it was and how it pissed the fans of the original off.

[@fromolwyoming]

Try the original. It has silly moments, but it also has character moments, growth, arcs, and stakes.

[@Rodriguezerick23]

Better than the new show

[@thesaxophonist343]

Its pretty cool. My favorite show ever but you to your own opinion

[@bigbadbob7070]

Like others have tried telling you, the original is WAY different and far superior beast than this new crap, it’s been one of favorite shows for a long time

[@drclayblox4022]

if you are not an og tt fan then you are probably an og ben10 fan am i right?

[@Leongon]

1:24 why not "A cyborg named Cyborg"? The joke writes itself and you skip it xD

[@isaacevilman7586]

Well, that's not his real name. That's just his superhero name. The only one using their real name is Raven. Not even Starfire uses her real name, her real name is Koriand'r. Cyborg's real name is Victor Stone.

[@KamenRiderHellhound]

@@isaacevilman7586 Koriand'r MEANS Starfire in English.

[@isaacevilman7586]

Alright, Who is like God?, Isaac means "He laughs." Oh, don't you know, that Michael in Hebrew means, "Who is like God?" Almost all names mean something in another language, but people don't go by what their names mean. Also, you mean Koriand'r means Starfire in Tamaranian, right? Because the word "Koriand'r" doesn't exist in English.

[@EarthGirlTerra]

*ahem* WRONG! Robin is Richard "Dick" Grayson Starfire is Kori And'r (pronounced like Cormander) Cyborg is Victor Stone Beast Boy is Ash Ketchum

[@MellyRedF7TheRealOne]

@@EarthGirlTerra you mean Garfield Logan?

[@gossamer999]

The End, the season 4 finale of TT, haunts me to this day. It is a heartbreaking 3-parter that is such a masterclass in storytelling and character that I can't help but think about it every week or so, 17 years later.

[@RoninRen]

honestly I'd be a little more tolerant with TTG only if it wasn't on for 12 hours straight weekly, what is it's exact run-time that allows them to get away with that?

[@DJFVLL0UT]

Teen Titans: lasting memories that makes us wanna come back for more. Teen Titans Go: tv filler. Laugh and forget. In the end Teen Titans is the show that fans will come back over and over to see because of it's amazing story and characters. We feel and love each story of the characters. From Starfires quirky princess story to spades dark evil saga.

[@abelhorvath4025]

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD

[@bolbyballinger]

The biggest problem with Teen Titans Go is that it's at its best when using reference humor. If it's actually good at that then why is it a weakness? Well you see the show obsesses over pointing out that it's for kids. In reference comedy the audience has to know the reference to enjoy otherwise they'll just be confused and wonder what happened. Kids, being younger, have less experience and are the most likely demographic to not get reference humor. Their strength is literally being used in the worst way possible. Add that to a creator who says kids don't need good shows and you have the hallmarks of a poorly ran show. If the thing wasn't played half the day I doubt it would make money.

[@JONATAN-VELAZQUEZ]

Its a parody bro

[@lemmythebulldog8812]

Teen Titans: great actors, great storylines, and funny humor Teen Titans GO!: FUCKING WAFFLES!!!! (You’re a true NC fan, if you know what I’m referencing here)

[@joshthesquishy7142]

Chumpy the Anteater it’s rotting my brain, they should never made beats boy and cyborg, they are ripping off gumball and darwin

[@TheKersey475]

Teen Titans Go!, Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Ghostbusters remake... Does NOBODY know how to use a "Straight Man" in comedy anymore?! You can't all be the comic relief, you need at least one serious person to contrast and highlight the jokes!

[@DigiRangerScott]

TheKersey475 There’s nothing wrong with Ghostbusters Answer the Call or Rise of the TMNT

[@werewolf873]

you say that like you think they're writing for anyone over the age of eight. I'm not defending them, just pointing out that, for whatever reason, cartoon network has decided that adults don't like cartoons.

[@blackwings89ra]

So every show needs a Squidward

[@werewolf873]

sorry, allow me to amend cartoon network to FUCKING EVERYBODY

[@teddyriggs1305]

Why do you think Rise of TMNT is opening at September?

[@Sakanero]

Another part of the problem with TTG is just how overplayed it is on Cartoon Network. From what i’ve heard it’s 80% of the program schedule. People watch it because there’s barely anything else.

[@loganm.theninja1077]

I even remember there was one week where it took more than 90% of the schedule.

[@NepBeard]

Raye Johnson Yes! THANK YOU.

[@Sakanero]

I meant as a problem with why people hate it so much, but yes, that also counts as a network problem.

[@benx101cool5]

Sakanero true if less and less people watched TTG then CN would be forced to change their lineup to include a more variety of shows they have.

[@JEL625]

Its cheap, and people watch it. Why wouldn't a network keep putting it in the lineup?

[@justinspeaks.1652]

The best person to judge both of these shows was a person who didn't like either. Ironic.

[@ashleyyang8565]

Truth!

[@FrostJarl]

Believe it or not this happens with a lot of comparisons. If someone is a fan of one side going in their biases and sense of nostalgia are going to affect their comparison. In many cases an outside perspective is likely to be more objective in its analysis.

[@unoriginalusername6408]

This is what happen, when someone isn't all about "nostalgia". Ironic isn't it?

[@killer92173]

That is like comparing to the two IT movies/miniseries when the guy comparing them doesn't lile either-- Oh wait...

[@Mboy245]

The fan song (as the show named it) is one of my actual favorite songs from teen titans go. It is actually one of the few songs and thing the show actually did right. It was a beautiful tribute to their #1 fan Wally

[@The_Real_Frisbee]

"It's a cartoon, so obviously it's for kids!" is why I hate TTG. Don't get me wrong, being a huge fan of the original, I already disliked GO!, but I just chalked it up as another dumb modern-age cartoon for kids. Then I heard about the clown episode. Then I saw the clown episode. And now I hate GO! with a fiery passion. Cartoons are not just for kids. With clever writing, good characters and a good story, a cartoon can be for everyone. As Critic said, Hey Arnold can be chalked up as a kids cartoon, but it still has the drama and story that adults can enjoy. Even Rugrats was able to bring about some tearjerking moments with some serious adult topics in a cartoon. Pokemon had great moments, Arthur, Courage, Samurai Jack, OG PPG, I even remember Animaniacs having serious moments about Dot. Cartoons do not have to be just for kids, and it's one thing that cartoons are seriously lacking these days: Good writing.

[@NotaBee-99]

I also saw that clown episode. I'm pretty sure that when they were saying that "cartoons are just for kids", they were talking about kids cartoons. And yes, those cartoons that you mentioned are for kids. But, there are so many cartoons out there that are actually for adults to where they don't even need to wasted their time watching something meant for 5 year olds, especially if they hate it. I've seen this time and time again. Cartoon fans who preach that animation is for adults too when in actuality, they are only talking about cartoon shows not meant for adults. It's alright if you still look back on the shows that inspired you with a smile and it's even fine to watch whatever's on now...but those shows ARE for kids and shows like MLP, Steven Universe, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, whatever other show animation reviewers on the internet overhype to oblivion and especially TTG! are for kids. No amount of grown adults obsessing over them will ever change that. But like I said, there are cartoons for adults out there. Adult Swim is a thing and studios like NFB, Laika, Cartoon Saloon and Aardman make cartoons that can be enjoyed by anyone of any age. There's also people like Bill Plympton and Ralph Bakshi who make shorts and films exclusively for adults. Plus, there's Looney Tunes soooo...yeah.

[@boshwa20]

Just because cartoons can be enjoyed by everyone, it doesn't mean every cartoon is made for everyone. I mean, can you imagine Dora the Explorer having long running story archs, serious moments, etc? I can't either.

[@thelonesurvivor3955]

Boshwa Dora the explorer is an educational show for toddlers,teen titans go is just lazy and is encouraging more laziness and if this spreads then it’s just going to be every cartoon.

[@icecreamhero2375]

So you are saying adults don't like comedy

[@azoth6641]

Frisbee Don’t forget the Avatar series, one of Doug’s favorite cartoons (so much so he holds a special place in hell for Shyamalan’s 2010 live-action shitstain of a remake).

[@darthmaul9431]

I got it! I got it! Old vs New: Star Wars The Clone Wars vs Star Wars Rebels Both are CGI Cartoon shows featuring Star Wars characters and both were made by Dave Filoni. Plus, I'm in both shows. Dew it.

[@Yoshikage8008]

Star wars resistance......

[@Morgil27]

Mountain Dew it

[@thetiminator55]

Its an interesting analysis. Take Teen Titans and compare it to Teen Titans Go. Take Clone Wars and compare it to rebels. Take Last Airbender and compare it to Kora. The former were all usually early 2000s and dealt with serious topics but also introduced plenty of fun and levity for the younger audience. The shows were powerful because they were willing to take VERY serious topics and treated both the characters and the audience with respect by trusting that they can deal with the reality of the situation. Compared to the later, you dont see very dark or serious topics in the 2010 onward kid shows. They became "Kidish," unwilling to deal with complicated topics and only focusing on goofiness. Yes goofy is fine but that isn't what makes a powerful show. I feel bad for kids nowadays because i feel their selection is very piss poor. I used to come home and watch Toonami. Avatar, Naruto, FMAB, Teen Titans, Star Wars all good shows that influenced me into the man i am today. I just hope kids today can make up for the deficit in quality television.

[@frankjosephjaeger2675]

My Money On The Clone Wars Rebels Not That Good Anyway

[@bigboyfilmproductions8478]

um maul two things one i thought obi-wan killed you on tatooine and second the whole "dew it" was palpatine's thing

[@nitromagilou597]

Honestly, the 2003 version is more enjoyable hands down. However, that's not to say that _everything_ from TTG was downright awful, as there were a few episodes that I admittedly enjoyed; Here's a hint: *The Night Begins To Shine*

[@seanmckenna481]

I can agree

[@crazyluigi6664]

@@The__Creeper Source?

[@sontho6995]

@@crazyluigi6664 You can check out Rebel Taxi's video "Why action cartoons are dead" he shows old online forums from the early 2000s that showed hatred for teen titans.

[@crazyluigi6664]

@@sontho6995 Oh! Okay. I honestly didn't know about that bit! Honestly, my interests online were in sports and video games back in the day.

[@sontho6995]

@@crazyluigi6664 No problem, in fact those sites are still online, granted you can't comment but you can actually read them.

[@MetalHeadManic612]

TFS said it best. "Nobody ruined your childhood. The Teen Titans you liked is still on DVD."

[@minespatch]

If you wanted to show how bad the Stooges were as a crime fighting team, there was the Three Robonic Stooges from 1977.

[@thiccboss4780]

wtf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Robonic_Stooges

[@herrikudo]

DAMN thats a reference I didn't expect! I respect your Stooges Knowledge! No one gives them love anymore

[@ShadowWolfRising]

"If you don't like it, why are you watching it." Would be a good point.......If almost the entirety of the schedule wasn't only TTG. Even the Target demographic who LIKE the show are showing signs of fatigue.

[@toon4thought]

People blow how much it actually plays WAY out of proportion, and schedules are becoming increasingly irrelevant in the streaming age anyway.

[@devilcat17]

You can change the channel tho?

[@robertharris6092]

@@devilcat17 thoes channels dont play regular show steven universe or adventure time. Among others. Though.

[@devilcat17]

@@robertharris6092 But if TTG! is on, CN isn't playing those shows? I mean, I only replied here because I keep seeing that defense, and it's a pretty ridiculous "first-world-problem" defense. Like, some of us don't even have cable. Imagine if you played a game, read a book, socialized?

[@DrakeSilver]

yeah but, that doesn't mean that isn't a problem. When they constantly show the same thing over and over even if you like it you will just show fatigue and in some cases hatred for the thing. Yes I could be doing something else, but what if there is nothing better to do? what if I am sick and I cannot go out? There are people who it's either TTG or something else that is also just as irrelevant and that they just hate or don't care at all. Also what type of message a network is throwing at you by constantly airing the same thing over and over. You can try to dimish the issue all you want. It's still an issue and people get sick and tired of being "hey let's see what is on... nvm it's this thing again..." constantly. It doesn't help the network, it doesn't make things better for those who enjoy the show since they will grow tired of it eventually, it really doesn't help those who just hate the show. Just shows how desperate CN is that they have to rely on what is essentially one show to carry them through

[@anyanP]

For the answer to "why do people whatch TTG if they don't like it" you should look no further than CN schedule. It (at least has been for a time) oversaturated with TTG. And when I'm saying "oversaturated" I mean it. On the christmas week of 2017 TTG took up 99% percent of the schedule. *99%* It's really hard to miss even if you want to.

[@jordanj809]

I have an idea. Change the channel

[@ianhunter363]

Jordan Jolivette That's not the problem here. The problem is that people are saying it's getting such good ratings, but the only reason it GETS those good ratings is because Cartoon Network shoves it down everyone's throats almost 24/7. Sure, you can watch another channel, but that doesn't fix what's wrong with the people who think they can make something good by giving us only one option.

[@MidnightSonnet]

If they show it way too much, then boycott the channel by not changing to it at all. Don't bother checking to see if anything else is on by flipping to it. Just watch other channels or do something else entirely. I get why people are upset by this, but it's just TV. There are so many other things you could be doing with your time other than getting annoyed at a show and channel. If a show takes up 99% of the daily time slots, then you're pretty much guaranteed to know what's gonna be on. So why even bother? You're giving ratings to a show you hate. Makes no sense.

[@michaelprost6130]

(Jordan Jolivette) cant really do that if there's nothing good on the other channels which happens all the time

[@boshwa20]

@@michaelprost6130 You're on the internet. You can find something

[@assassinmaster3419]

Whenever TTG comes on, I swear there is nothing else on the TV playing.

[@RobTibbetts92]

‘Why watch it if you know you’re going to hate it ‘ - somewhere Mr Enter is having a meltdown

[@gentleman_oni]

also: "how do you know about this atrocities?" Yeah, I think it's a subtle jab at Mr. Enter

[@naotatheendlessesper]

@@gentleman_oni nah

[@aros0018]

I mean, it's not like he's never given TTG a positive review. He thought the crossover with the new PPG show was actually pretty good and gave his reasons for why he thought it worked better than the other episodes he reviewed, hoping that TTG would actually do more of what worked.

[@SmartAlec1]

There's a lot to criticize Enter for but the TTG one was really stupid. People seem to blame Enter for shit everyone else did more.

[@JzanderN]

gentleman oni+ Because any time you use the word atrocity you're automatically referencing Mr Enter.

[@draxain9261]

Did Critic just rewatched the Star Wars Holiday Special and remembered all of it? 16:08 LOL

[@The_PokeSaurus]

I got money on Fifty Shades Of Grey!

[@androidinblack5291]

Maybe it’s a Pauly Shore Movie.

[@TailsFan369no2]

Draxain 92 you seriously underestimate Tom Green

[@TailsFan369no2]

The Poke'Saurus you seriously underestimate Tom Green

[@TailsFan369no2]

Android in Black you seriously underestimate Tom Green

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

ah, it feel nice when someone well spoken can get the proper message across clearly. Thank you Critic.

[@Rinne_Z_rank]

Old titans: minecraft New titens: fortnite *_Its just as i say, minecraft good fortnite bad, its like that but as a cartoon_*

[@joycongod4831]

Your the problem with the world

[@surpriseattack703]

Are you a kid?

[@kosakukawajiri16]

I don’t like Fortnite, but I’m so tired of everyone saying that it’s bad even though two years ago everyone loved it

[@joycongod4831]

@@kosakukawajiri16 me too

[@Rinne_Z_rank]

@@Samsishere ironically thats true

[@badscientist42069]

My only experience with TTGo is from commercials for it, but I still hate it. Not because of the style or the humor, but because of what they did to the characters. They went from a set of unique, emotional, and believable characters to a homogenous band of shallow goofballs.

[@crazyweirdgirl115]

it's just one version of the characters, they haven't permanently destroyed the characters, it's just something for young kids. And how can you judge something that you haven't even watch? seems like you just like to spout vitriol

[@casesoutherland4175]

A moment of silence for the loss of the greatest superhero show ever made.... 😭🙏

[@bigbadbob7070]

cg standing well, even if he didn’t watch the show he’s not exactly wrong

[@julianmartinez4719]

And don't forget sociopathic assholes

[@ThisAdamGuy]

I can't speak for everyone, but the reason I hate Go is because Teen Titans meant something. It had characters you could care about, villains who were legitimately scary, and the conflicts between the two would flesh out both to ridiculous degrees. It was the show that taught me heroes could be more than angry punchy people in masks. And then they made Go, and that entire show can be summed up as "LOL WAFFLES FARTING RANDOMNESS SO CRAZYYYYYY!!!1!" If it had been a new show with it's own original characters, that'd be fine. But seeing the Titans be turned into THAT felt like an insult. It'd be like if they remade Avatar with terrible art and entire episodes dedicated to who can fart the loudest.

[@sweetaholic-mt5yj]

N

[@theAngryscotman]

I understand where you're coming from, I grew up watching and loving the original to, but I have to speak in Gos defense. The comedy is actually better than you're giving it credit for.

[@aienma6660]

And TTG understands that.., which is why they make an episode mocking those that liked Teen Titans for the 'story' and the 'character growth' and the 'relationships' they had.

[@ThisAdamGuy]

... Seriously? You think that making fun of the people who enjoyed what made the original show good means they "get it"? That's about as mature as blowing a raspberry in a professional debate.

[@theAngryscotman]

@@ThisAdamGuy They've praised the original before.

[@marcusreading3783]

I personally think the hatred mainly comes from the fact that it went from a deep(ish), interesting show with amazing characters to...waffles. Quite frankly, if it hadnt been Teen Titans or hell, if they'd not ended the original on a cliffhanger, the show would probably have been pretty well received. It doesnt help that the show keeps kicking the fans of the original in the nuts. Its fine to make fun of the fans, but many of the fans of the original do have genuine grevences and being insulted doesnt help. I've also heard that the creater of TTG knows that his show is low effort mental junk food for kids and doesnt give a shit because its for kids. Not sure how accurate that is considering I heard it from someone who hates it, but thats likely part of it as well.

[@Mattsterweb]

That's kind of my opinion on it. I'm neither a die-hard fan of the original nor a rabid hater of Go, but I feel like if the original had ended with a satisfying conclusion, the Go haters would have been more inclined to just ignore the new series instead of frothing at the mouth about it, because they would have a more complete series to be nostalgic about. It's also possible that people thought a revival of Teen Titans gave them a chance to get that conclusion, which was instead squandered on a goof show?

[@sapphirewriter8349]

It's because of Cartoon Networks shitty scheduling of having a marathon of the dang show every single day....

[@MyAbridged]

If they hadn't been the Teen Titans most people would look at the show the same way as Mighty Magiswords or Supernoobs, a stupid and pretty average show that most people forget exists shortly after watching

[@wellthismachinekills3809]

Well if it means anything, there is plethora of alternatives to choose from in the comics that go deep.

[@reeses_unicorn]

I really hate how they, practically, turned the Titans into babies. Teen Titans Go! is a mockery of the original series.

[@Astrithor]

You definitely hit the nail on the head with the tipping point. As for, "Why all the hatred?", I think it has to do with how close we all felt to the original characters. We felt so much for them, we thought of them almost as family, and to murder their personalities in favor of often terrible humor was...unforgivable.

[@LuniNightwind]

I do have to disagree how TTG attacks fans like other shows. The other shows, it tends to just be one 2-4 minute joke before they are done with it. But then we have TTG, who made ENTIRE episodes attacking the critiques. These are different and even though they acknowledge their flaws, they never tried to be better. Just because they know how bad they are, doesn't mean those moments are good, especially when they have no sign of improving. Also, the writing is just terrible. Not only are all characters basically the same, but their personalities changed with every episode. They would have no respect for Robin yet in other episodes they show HIGH respect for him. BTW the only way I know of this is I basically watch clips from youtube, not posted by CN, and hear episodes from people.

[@driveasandwich6734]

Great comment!

[@spinningpeanut]

Here's a secret. The creators are trolling the original fans on purpose because they are original fans too. There's some stuff in there for us, hell some of the TTG Movie jokes had me rolling and proved to me that the creators actually do love TT very much. There's something else going on that's making it so they can't do fully what they'd like to do, especially at the beginning of the series. There's gotta be more to the story than the creators are shitting on everyone on purpose because it's funny, but they do admit to doing it a little bit in an interview.

[@Hunterfalke]

I have never seen an episode, but the "Getting Serious" clip already contradicts your point of completely incompetent writing, in my opinion. It's stupid, sure, but it pokes fun at just the right tropes (BB saying it was an honor, starfire has to say something serious but duty always interrupts) to show that whoever is writing the show isn't a complete hack.

[@MrDj232]

I'll tell TTG the same thing I told Nitpix. If you know a joke is bad and lasts too long, don't run with it and then joke about how bad it was. Just cut it from the script.

[@LuniNightwind]

That's one I had saw on TV before the show started to get worst. I have to admit, it was silly, especially the bit with Aquaman. But then more episodes that attack critics came and it was blatantly obvious. I didn't think 'Getting Serious' was an attack on critics but then we have 'Return of Slade' which the main message is 'You can't enjoy things meant for kids' or something along those lines. Season one seemed like they were trying, but as they kept going they just made everyone jerks and have inconsistent character. As Doug mentioned, with this kind of writing, our titans weren't needed. They could've gone with a new set of heros and the jokes will still work.

[@dannyandrews7085]

my main issue is that this show could have been made almost exactly the way it is if you replace the teen titans and all the related characters and location with something original. like you said, none of them retain there individual character. the creators could have made all new characters and the show would have been the same. Teen Titans Go angers me because the teen titans legacy is being used as a marketing ploy for something that has nothing to do whit the teen titans

[@Menfhis24]

I thought the same thing but I also have the feeling that if they didn't use "Teen Titans' simply for name recognition then the show wouldn't be nearly as popular. I think kids would still like it but older viewers, including myself, wouldn't give it much attention. At most I think people would be saying it's just ok.

[@OkayYaraman]

Very true. In fact, CN did do this with Unikitty. They made the exact same show as TTG, but with mostly original characters and it does work a lot better. They are also doing this with Thundercats, but something tells me that's going to go about as well as TTG. Another beloved franchise that had a prematurely cancelled serious show on CN being turned into a dumb comedy for kids instead of getting revived? Yeah, I'm sure fans will love it....

[@icecreamhero2375]

It has the same writers but they are very different Princess Unikitty is the leader she is upbeat and loves everything cute but she is far more reasonable, Dr. Fox is really in to science, Richard is the funniest character and he is like the Pixies from Fairly Odd Parents, Hawkdile is the muscle, and Puppycorn is dumb and energetic.

[@allyssaswain2394]

7:51 I have to very strongly disagree. TTG responding to their critics often does feel like bitterly insulting them, and it really did backfire. People hate them that much more now. Also , It doesn't even make much sense. They say their show is for kids, but a lot of small children wouldn't understand the controversy they're making fun of.

[@aemxo]

The only people they might have pissed off were people who already didnt like the show. "Better not piss off these people who say what we make is garbage..." lol Good on them for not pandering to fanatics, I say.

[@yusifudo46]

Anna Elizabeth What do you mean? Allyssa point is they work so much on putting down the "haters", they completely alienate their fans, creating even more hate for the show. My sister used to love this show before they started acting like this.

[@aemxo]

What i mean is that I disagree. "Haters" already hate the show, right? So the only reason to be mad is because you got trolled; you would've never caught those jokes if you weren't watching a show you supposedly hate. And I as a "fan" of the show, found the so-called "offensive" jabs at their critics endearing. It's hilarious! It had literally the opposite effect on me as a fan. (edit for attempted? clarity)

[@yusifudo46]

Too bad the makers of the show aren't. You focus on the haters, you create more hate. Either ignore it, or just accept it and do better. Animaniacs had haters in its early days and so did Naruto and Batman (1992), but now they the GOAT because they either did there own thing or selected the criticism and chose what parts to do better. The TTG writers are narcissistic crybabies, and I have no respect for people like that.

[@aemxo]

Welp, it earned MY respect. So we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)

[@theshadowlands14]

11:00 explains my sentiment for the shows PERFECTLY.

[@TwilightWolf032]

I used to enjoy TTG when it first aired. It was silly, it was over-the-top, it was inappropriate, and it was self-aware. It was clearly not meant for kids (I mean, in one episode, Beast Boy gets everyone killed for the sake of a prank and shows absolutely no remorse whatsoever), especially with all the internet jokes and over-the-top deprecation of the main characters, which are the same Titans we had seen growing up. It is not a new iteration of Teen Titans, it is not their own interpretation of the Teen Titans, it is the exact same team we watched in the early 2000's. Heck, they even brought the same voice actors to do this show. It felt like the writers were saying "hey, remember this amazing show you loved as a kid? Let's poke some fun at it!" It was gold! But everything changed when "The Return of Slade" attacked. That episode put the entire series into a different light. That episode is clear on its message that TTG is meant for kids and not for fans of the original show. But the worst part about that episode is that it keeps telling me I should feel embarrassed for watching cartoons at my age, and that it doesn't want to draw in the older demographic. As I mentioned before, this show brought the original TT and the voice actors to make this show, in order to poke fun at the cartoon we grew up watching. And then they suddenly decide to make it clear they don't want that crowd watching them. It's like showing an ad for cake and stating you only want people with diabetes in your store! Especially because the kids of today don't know anything about the original series, so the show keeps talking about something the kids have no idea what is being talked about! That episode is what made me despise Teen Titans Go. I went from a casual fan of the jab at the show I loved to a detractor of this mess. They are NOT self-aware, they do believe they are appropriate for children, and they are willing to dedicate long episodes to attack a portion of the audience while neglecting their supposed target audience. They keep referencing the older series and the comic books, but unless you've seen them, which kids certainly haven't (no kid is willing to read the story about how Batman got Batgirl pregnant and planted an ambush so she'd lose the baby), you have no idea what is being poked fun at, but at the same time, they keep shooing the demographic that does read/watch the source material and would be the audience these jokes would resonate with! The worst part of it all is that they are PROUD of shaming their detractors. They don't see their work as a parody of the original (which is the mentality I went in at first, and what made me enjoy the show back in season one), they see it as something better, all while using the excuse that "it's just a children's cartoon" to deflect any sort of criticism at the same time they obsess over the hatred they receive in the form of tamper tantrum disguised as "episodes." The best episodes of the show (that episode where Cyborg is addicted to singing an 80's song, for example) are the ones where the team behind Go puts their effort and heart into making an episode they believe everyone will be able to enjoy watching, but they insist in making Return of Slade, Getting Serious and that one about real states! It says a lot about a show when it is more concerned about enraging its critics than it is about making good episodes!

[@EndlessNight025]

TwilightWolf032 Agree 100%

[@TheRezro]

The thing is that people don't hate TTGo itself. They hate CN politic regard this show, what they clearly have problem to adres. No one complain about Rise of TMNT because it was announced as comedic spin off show. But CN rise hopes of people when they announce new Teen Titans (and people still wait for new season as it as canceled without explanation) and then drop spin off comedy from nowhere.

[@Pooky1991]

@@TheRezro and it doesn't help that they planned to pull the same shit with Thundercats another more serious show that had a really good 2011 reboot that didn't have a proper ending

[@AM-kf2zt]

The excuse that "it's just made for kids" was criticised by the NC in the review of " The Cat in the Hat". Good video. I recommend it.

[@TheHaviocdarkmoon]

The Rero Excpet TTG was pushed by WB to be put on the network not CN

[@carlwilhelm9345]

16:08 Hey, this gives me an idea. 'Where the Teen Titans GO to die' Beastboy can be the demonic dog, Raven's got the tentacles.

[@YuukiTakemoto1996]

Can't Cyborg have the tentacles? Him being the sexiest Titan for most females?

[@joshthesquishy7142]

Welp she is the best part of the show, at least she watches a tv show about morals

[@Zimmy_1981]

Damn they really messed up the animation style in TTG! Starfire looks malnourished

[@GaiasRebirth]

Well to hate something, you have to first watch it... i watched the first 10 episodes to see if its worth the time... and no... the humor is made from food, fart and mobbing... no fun, and nothing that should exist in my eyes...

[@Rodriguezerick23]

No excitement at all

[@dimitrispolimeros6186]

The nostalgia critic didn't bring up the whole "if you don't like it don't watch" argument cause he was talking about TTG. He was trying to apply this argument onto his show because of the whole Channel Awesome Controversy. He apparently got so butthurt that he was like: "I want to talk back at those haters but without bringing up the controversy and therefore lose subscribers... Oh! I know, I'll make a video about TT vs TTG and force this argument down to people's throats!" And yeah, his moronic fans ate it up.

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

@@dimitrispolimeros6186 I guess that makes me a moron then.

[@dannywapbang]

@Tannis They MOCKED the 80s Titans in that episode. I can't believe they'd fucking do that instead of releasing the lost Teen Titans drug PSA featuring Cyborg _fucking winking at us complete with gleam_ to the masses.

[@YuukiTakemoto1996]

@@dannywapbang Cyborg's "special wink."

[@cathalhughes5996]

Well we kinda do know why it was cancelled mainly cause it had a large female veiwer ship and the toy lines weren't targeted towards them so CN was "lossing money" the same thing happened with young justice

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

And now the latter is coming back (And maybe the original TT show)

[@cathalhughes5996]

@@manuelalbertoromero9528 yeah but I dont want to get that DC crap so I'll have to do some hacker boy 9000 shit you know.

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

So...piracy. That's fair. Not sure how well these streaming services coming soon will do against the ones currently available.

[@Crazyredemu]

Wasnt that proven to be a load of shit?

[@kiyo1396]

(in smash Bros announcer voice) No Contest!

[@kiyo1396]

*Cultural melting pot*

[@druvjuice6906]

*then SALT*

[@SuperIsaiah]

(in smash bros announcer voice) the winner is.. Teen Titans Go (plays ttg theme song)

[@kiyo1396]

@@SuperIsaiah no

[@SuperIsaiah]

+Aidan games yes

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

7:51 wow seriously that’s awesome, the team behind teen titans go are cool people.

[@toyscourge4983]

The biggest reason (i think) that was missed from here is. the new show is seen as a step down from clever character and story driven shows to pure comedy and joke based shows. give people clever and thought provoking tv and they will demand more if not better. Go! i'd seen as just jokes with no substance. which for many people is a step down. it's easy to write stupid jokes about waffles it's harder to write a complex story which impacts both the characters and you the viewer.

[@notquiteordinary]

The show is clever in a different way. Too many ppl can't see what teen Titans go is and say all this off base stuff. DC comic references are EVERYWHERE and there just so many great things about the show I can't even explain it all

[@SmartAlec1]

@@notquiteordinary Yeah I kind of agree. It's almost like a kid's show South Park, and the humor itself feels very adult swim and comedy central.

[@romanhoptlite8532]

Yeah like one episode Robin wanted to be educational, so the episode was just about how to buy and maintain rental property

[@icecreamhero2375]

Your a Rick and Morty Fan there is nothing smart about that show

[@SmartAlec1]

@@icecreamhero2375 That doesn't have anything to do with anything, and just because you're a Rick and Morty fan doesn't mean you're toting about how smart you are.

[@theloaten17]

*looks at title* I haven't even watched the video and I already know which one is gonna win.

[@cookingwiththecripple]

Nooooooooooooooo shit

[@anouk356]

Really? LOTR nayone?

[@CrrUptdSprt]

The original I found when TTG was in its second season. I watched it sometimes, so when I found TT on Boomerang and saw what it looked like, I immediately was captivated. The old animation was much better, more fluid, and could draw you in. The characters instantly had some recognizable- well character. Serious physical and emotional topics could be shown or talked about, and that was important if you were going to flesh out a team with a half-demon with the destiny to destroy the world, an alien who was stranded on earth intended to be a slave, a cyborg, and an orphan. None of the team members aside from beast boy would be totally emotionally sound in that regard. TTG actually wasn't too bad in its first and second seasons, there were a lot fewer fart jokes and the comedy was less mindless. There was some actual plot driving the episodes, even if it wasn't very interesting. Nowadays there's toilet humor on the regular, the characters are either stupid and immature or geniuses whether the plot demands it, and everything is mindless. While it makes fun of itself, sometimes in interesting ways, often it clearly is to avoid criticism by adults. There are still good parts, but the show overall isn't something I'd show to a kid, especially because morals in it are intended to be bad. My little brother watches a lot of it. I tell him not to though, that show is like TV junk food.

[@FanSeitz]

2:53 And the exact same actors, I am glad that still get to work and record with each other. I just wish it wasn't the one good thing about Go existing.

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

Unpopular Opinion: The Voice Acting in Go *REALLY* hurts my ears. I swear the characters sound more obnoxious than their original counterparts (With Raven as an exception, but that doesn't mean I like the way she acts in Go.)