Oleander - Completed Thistleclaw & Snowfur MAP

[@Northflowo]

I explain the symbolism and stuff in this map: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZOme4hubNWUp9U

[@michellemedina5237]

Northflower After seeing the explanation I enjoyed this so much more. ^^

[@movedchannelsflra8756]

I enjoyed this as well. The meaning of all this makes this map one of my favorites!

[@hh-px6hd]

NorthFlower , the meaning touched my heart especially the ending part!

[@xxxshadowxxx7074]

Northflower even though my comment I like ... After this map I forgot to comment about it ! Its awesome.

[@mebanks-smith9079]

I kinda think thistleclaw was handsome...

[@ko_fiii]

I like to think that Thistleclaw was still breathing until Snowfur destroyed the oleander

[@AquaDrops]

ZodiACK !!!! Jesus CHRIST calm down Satan

[@mysterymevv5332]

Now that I’m thinking about it, i think about that part a whole new way that I can’t explain

[@dethwaltzer]

Wowww

[@totoro9609]

Hello fellow Totoro profile picture.

[@ko_fiii]

@@totoro9609 Hello good sir. Must I say your profile is just BEAUTIFUL

[@inkycashew]

I'm surprised that Spottedleaf's Heart was acknowledged in this. Especially with how much everyone wants to forget it.

[@oceaneyes2658]

I believed the Erin's just needed a cat that could have be close enough to thistleclaw to the point of going into his dreams and then showing us the readers that thistleclaw is worse and then the cat becomes to scared.

[@lavenderscare4995]

As bad as it was at expressing it's subject matter, spottedleaf's heart does work well in a map about how toxic thistleclaw was with "loved ones"

[@kr2346]

ikr

[@kr2346]

@@oceaneyes2658 But why did they choose spotteeddddppaaaawwww :,(l

[@W4VDragon]

@@WanderingAnywhere pls no

[@pinkbunnygirl43]

I’m obsessed with this! I love the symbolism!!

[@pinkbunnygirl43]

Seriously, I watch it at least 3 times a day XD

[@eleah8297]

@@pinkbunnygirl43 Same, lol

[@shinyeevee7554]

pinkbunnygirl43 ikr

[@michellediedlmao4754]

@@pinkbunnygirl43 I WATCH IT MORE

[@ang5t684]

@@pinkbunnygirl43 same!

[@iubii5783]

OK BUT HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO WRITE THE SCRIPT WITHOUT INCLUDING BLUEFUR LIKE WHOA

[@Northflowo]

sorry bluefur i love u but ur irrelevant to this

[@broadwaybandito2480]

Northflower irrelevant? SHE’S SNOWFUR’S GOSH DARN SISTER. But it’s okay. This map is so beautiful, that I’ll give it a pass for not including my bluebae.

[@bramblebrowncat8840]

iubii. And Whitekit, but I'm really grateful you added Spottedleaf, because she takes an special role in Thistleclaw's character arc and his relationship with Snowfur

[@bramblebrowncat8840]

Tatiana Bezerra. I agree that the book was portrayed in the wrong way and that their relationship is a disturbing topic bad handled, but ignoring it won't make it go away. Spottedleaf's Heart IS canon and not accepting it is not very mature in my opinion. Thanks to this MAP, I hope people start to accept that Spotted X Thistle IS real, even though we don't like it because it's an abusive relationship involving child manipulation

[@astoratism]

What about white kit?

[@xaviano2903]

snowpaw: *lies next to her mothers dead body crying* thistlepaw: *smiles*

[@3osprey]

“Yay! Death!”

[@VyrewoIf]

This map has stolen my heart and I think I need to call the cops because it won’t give it back. -Also flower symbolism can marry me and adopt my child-

[@hh-px6hd]

WolfSword I know!

[@Thschei]

Same

[@kr2346]

animaljaaaammmm

[@justaperson8381]

Help this MAP also stole my lungs I can't breathe-

[@milliemations1737]

The talent in this map stole my eyes, maybe my hands

[@SaraXu]

I first freaked out when my part didn't came, but then I noticed that you swap them😂 That's actually really good thinking cause now the parts flow better. This was an awesome map, everyone did a amazing job. I'm really glad to be part of this project ❤❤❤❤❤

[@gayperson2779]

What Part?

[@DreemyDreemz]

I love that this included basically NOTHING of Bluefur. Anything with Thistleclaw and Snowfur always has to include her. This MAP is so freaking cool

[@TrueEnergizerBunnies]

I would love a book or short story written by the Erins from the point of view of some of these mates of really evil characters. Like what did Snowfur see in Thistleclaw, how did he treat her? What about Goldenflower and Tigerclaw? That would be really interesting and maybe show that people arent evil through and through, they have different sides.

[@azaleaflowers155]

Definitely, though we saw some in the TigerStar and Sasha ones. In that we saw that TigerStar basically only told his point of view, like he was in the good and he was only doing a favor for the clans. And Sasha likes his good looks too, lol.

[@LILLIE_GAMES777]

ThistleClaw was very good to SnowFur, but he ended up not so good-

[@zmilkymocha975]

“If you leave me, rest assured it would kill me.” Snowfur: **dies**

[@nightshade-warroir6915]

This map is so beautiful, and i love the symbolism. And honestly, I agree with what you said in your explanation video, how thistleclaw went down a dark path after snowfur died, honestly I feel like that's kinda what happened because in the books he clearly had a lot of devotion towards her, but it just crumbled when she left. and bluefur hating him probably didnt help. I love all the symbolism with the flowers and it spreading like an infection almost, its amazing~

[@Northflowo]

Thistleclaw literally blaming Bluefur for Snowfur's death might've not helped their already tense relationship... Can't exactly blame her for not liking him

[@nightshade-warroir6915]

Northflower oooo very good point. I forgot he blamed her. Their relationship certainly didn’t help anything either way >.>; And yeah she did have some reasons for hating him, though I do think at the start it might have been a bit misplaced? I dunno it’s been a very long time since I read the books TTvTT;;

[@jaylashropshire61]

If I remember correctly she didn't like him at the start because he was prideful and talked too much. It started as more of a annoyance.

[@coffeeandsalt6172]

1:08 : If you leave me, rest assured it will kill me. Snowfur: *Leaves*

[@Mystery-Wolf]

I think it’s supposed to be how Snowfur felt betrayed if the cat shown with ThistleClaw is Spottedpaw or something.

[@roibiiin]

XD

[@Gryphoenixheart111]

@@roibiiin STOP MAKING MY SNOWSIWOSIES SAD(SNOWSIWOSIES= Snowfur)

[@caroll5706]

2:07 thisitleclaw: 5 laps go! spottedleaf: does it

[@justurmum198]

This comment is underrated I was wheezing at this

[@littlelionx8998]

@@justurmum198 SAME

[@Icefelis]

IM SOBBING MY FACE OFF THIS TURNED OUT SO GOOD AAAA

[@Icefelis]

SHANNON CORLETT Tysm man!!!

[@willbe_human]

This is absolutely gORGEOUS OH MY GOSH Ahh I am sort of embarrassed about my part, I haven't been feeling very confident about how I animate lately, but either way everyone did awesomely and this whole map is a masterpiece. Thank you so much for letting me animate a part for it!

[@Northflowo]

hgsjhgadxhasgah why is everyone here talking shit about their own parts, all of you did amazing and i wasn't expecting any less because I let you have a part over all the others u dummies :^)

[@xwhishax]

Ikr? Ive been feeling like that for a long time :00 i feel ya TTwTT

[@howellaboutno9500]

Your part was really good! I love how much emotion you put into Snowfur to show she still loved Thistleclaw :)

[@druidshollow]

OH DUDE IM SO EARLY ive been like. stalking this map i was so hyped??? it turned out so good everyones so talented ah

[@emocholo]

puzzlii lol

[@shinyeevee7554]

puzzlii 👌

[@stardustlover8446]

👌

[@Hellsfawn]

Dang, this was really well done! I love flower trail theme and script oml :'00 it properly focuses on Thistle and Snow's relationship before Snow passed, and then shows how it changes thistle. The song getting louder as the battles become more vicious and red. Really well done map with so many talented animators in it!

[@crystalcolors2229]

YOOO THIS TURNED OUT EPIC!! I LOVE THAT TRANSITION YOU DID WITH MY PART ONE OF MY FAV MAPS FOR SURE! EVERYONE DID AMAZING!

[@shadowxx7281]

CrystalColors aa lol which part were you can you send me the time on it

[@crystalcolors2229]

Mistwing 1:10 that's when the transition happens

[@shadowxx7281]

CrystalColors oh XD love it!

[@mirty-movedchannel6149]

YEEEEY I'm so happy, the map is just amazing! Good job everyone!

[@souvlakiwi]

Mirtylle Etoilée :0

[@graycat6476]

Mirtylle Etoilée IKR YES IM HAPPY AS HELL

[@laviedeschats4257]

Mirtylle Etoilée NEKO DOIS REGARDER

[@mirty-movedchannel6149]

la vie des chats MAIS XDDD

[@RileyEllis]

THIS IS HONESTLY STUNNING AND IM SO PROUD OF EVERYONE!! THIS IS AMAZING

[@theriveroflight]

I must confess that though I did see this MAP floating around I never put much stock in it. I was unsettled by the song, but the unsettling nature of the song really adds to the completed project as a whole. The final project is beautiful, and though I remain unsettled it adds to the disturbing nature of Thistleclaw and how their relationship was based on the only person Thistleclaw had pure intentions towards (at least, based upon my interpretation of the novel[s].)

[@kinpatsucat1935]

Everyones parts turned out so nicely. ♡ It was great to be part of this! Thanks for hosting. (:

[@Northflowo]

Thanks for joining! :^)

[@Rose-kk6vy]

I love the growth of mother mother songs on warrior cats maps, there’s this, mama told me (crooked star), and it’s alright (raven paw)

[@ThatScruffyDuckling]

YOOOO I LOVE THIS MAP. THE COLOURS ESPECIALLY R SO NICE

[@joythesylveon496]

I HAVEN'T READ EVEN FOUR PAGES OF WARRIOR CATS AND THIS STILL MADE ME SO UPSET

[@aceeeeee00]

I sent this to my mother, and she began sobbing. She doesn't even know the cats. Awesome map! Everyone did a stunning job! :)

[@veronicak6517]

I instantly recognized the walking dead song as the outro

[@nugget8906]

Same, gorgeous music from telltale

[@hannord224]

ikr I was like "warriors, twd? my take favorites!!"

[@remy7349]

JHSUHSBUHSNS YOU RECOGNIZE IT TOO

[@duskycanine3588]

Same

[@artclassidiots9960]

Y e s, this is old asf but i instantly remembered -its like 'feel alive'or 'stay alive'or smth

[@meowkarii2589]

OMG this is so amazing!!! I so glad that I'm in this map !!! Everybody good job !!!

[@freakshow0996]

Omg I love ur videos and I was suprised to see a animation by u in this map when I saw you had a part I was screaming so hard my friend thought I was psycho. Congrats!!! Fellow pokemon and warrior cats lover.

[@mordi17]

YEAH IT'S WARRIOR CATS AND MOTHER MOTHER

[@Squip_Ax]

Finally, someone mentioning Mother Mother

[@mhm_mhm628]

Hm yes! But i just gotta be happy with the danganronpa profiles here-

[@mordi17]

@@mhm_mhm628 sgjsgj true

[@muddochips3419]

When Snowfur breaks free by destroying the last flower. So momentous.

[@voideitii]

this turned out beautiful!! thanks for letting me be a part of this :)

[@Local_gremlin2009]

This map actually introduced me to my now favourite band, mother mother. Thank you

[@sorrelpaws]

OH gosh im so glad its done!! it turned out super nice !! i adore how consistent everything ended up !!!

[@XxEthernanoEmiko]

2:30 The transition of this map part to the next is amazing-

[@meowcrowave]

I know I’m 4 years late, BUT OH MY GOD I LOVE THE SYMBOLISM IN THIS!!!

[@drippingwithodd1447]

OK WOW. This MAP turned out gorgeously. The symbolism was fascinating and the tone that each animator set was immersive and atmospheric. The whole thing had a slightly offbeat vibe that left questions in my mind. I love how this turned out, and I'm still disappointing that I didn't get a part, but hey, maybe another time.

[@swirlshine]

OH MY GOSHHHHHH, THIS TURNED OUT EVEN BETTER THAN I EXPECTED!!! And I just want to say, THANK YOU for including Spottedpaw in it, because I believe she was a big part of the story, and I don't see many people add her and Thistleclaw's relationship in their MAPs or PMVs! Also, the way you made the cats fighting and killing Thistleclaw at the end black silhouettes was a great touch, since all we knew was he died in some sort of fight, and we never knew which cats killed him. The amount of thought put into this MAP is amazing, to say the least! Outstanding work, Northflower and everyone else!

[@blendzi0r]

Oh my god. IT'S JUST AMAZING! EVERYONE DID SUCH AN AMAZING JOB AAAA THANK YOU NORTHFLOWER THAT I COULD BE A PART OF THIS AWESOME MAP!

[@silversparkgames5292]

;3

[@Techyena]

HOLY HOLY THIS IS BEAUTIFUL! Everyone did so amazing! (Mother Mother + Warriors is honestly amazing, oof and Jasmin's voice fits Spottedleaf well X3.)

[@rain-rianarchive2154]

*I'm seriously crying this is too beautiful*

[@cranberrythecat4555]

OMG I FREAKIN' LOVE FLOWER SYMBOLISM AQZXLAKASALA ;V; Honestly, the only one I can think of off the top of my head that comes close to the aesthetic of this MAP is Allikat's Jeanne de Arc, and yet, this one is so unique for it's storyline. I'm a huge fan of Mother Mother, and this song in particular always resonated with me for its themes of romance, dependence, and toxicity, and the effort you put in to imbue those themes in the script really shows! And of course, the animators all went above and beyond!!! :D Congratulations on finishing this; I'll definitely have to check out the channels of all these talented artists!

[@Northflowo]

Joan of Arc is my shit, literally one of my favorite maps... It means so much to me you'd compare them to each other :,D

[@xvertcatx8141]

AHHHHH I LOVE THIS MAP!!

[@SuperAlly]

AWESOME MAP AND WHEN I SAW MY FRIEND'S PART ON IT I WAS SCREAMING

[@dprmars]

SuperAlly If you don't mind me asking,which part?

[@SuperAlly]

@@dprmars Jixxi

[@dprmars]

@@SuperAlly That part was amazing!! :-D It's really nice.

[@ZemmaStudios]

Wow, this is absolutely stunning! I got chills at like 5 different points in this MAP, amazing job to all of the participants!

[@similisticmurfur3964]

I seriously appreciate that it’s a mother mother song, like other musicians, they have meanings in their songs, however, they’re more powerful than you originally think. Gorgeous map, to all the artists who worked on this, spectacular work!

[@mannerni8999]

I love the detail of Thistle singing alongside Snow because he loved her the same as she did him, but Spotted was singing alone because he didn't truly love her/was too busy being evil to love her (I've never read Spotted's novella so I can't and wont share my opinion about their relationship in detail as not to cause controversy)

[@coffepot4800]

I absolutey love this shit (affectionately). I love both of the designs, especially Spottedpaw and Snwofur. The songs fits so well, and i love the fact that you made Snowfur look sad towards her mother's death, since like it's not really shown in Bluestar's Prophecy. I love the way Thistleclaw comforted Snowfur after the thing with Moonflower, like making him show he was actually caring for her, and Spottedpaw's little plot is perfect! I'm just stranged you didn't add Whitestorm, but I FRICKING LOVE THIS ANYWAY!

[@dudemiraty]

ITS DONE YAAAAAAAAAA ITS AMAZING honestly, this map is just stunning!

[@pretzelmintz]

OOOH IT TURNED OUT WONDERFUL!

[@AnneDalton82]

One wasted opportunity I saw is Thistle leaving oleanders into Whitekit's fur, then Bluefur takes him and quickly pulls them off, like Whitekit was able to escape it how Spottedleaf ran from it

[@crackermack2085]

I swear to god every time I hear Oleander I think OCEAN MANNN TAKE ME BY THE HAND Also very nice job, all of you! It turned out really good!

[@Gryphoenixheart111]

No, when i say i love this i mean I LOVE IT SO FREAKING MUCH I COULD JUST EXPLODE!!!!!

[@cr0wb3rry]

YESSS I LOVE HEARING MY FAVORITE SONGS IN MAPS

[@Vinyl_Scratch3]

SAME THO

[@InkedFlight]

ahhh ohmygosh its done!! this came out amazing! glad to be a part :DDD

[@dassielilly9341]

your part was so great i love it

[@InkedFlight]

aww thank you!! :D

[@dassielilly9341]

i really did!

[@colleenkyle7741]

I think they never stopped loving each other after death. That's what this video makes me feel. It's kinda heartbreaking..

[@canigettaWAHOO]

All the animators for this map did excellent! Watching these inspire me to get better at animation and one day get my animations in a map.

[@saltysapling]

This is so goooood! Everyone did awesome! I’m really hyped for the Crush Song MAP as well.

[@MythicalKittydog]

in my opinion, a good MAP is one where you can understand what's going on without needing an explanation. I consider this one of them.

[@mii4015]

holy heck! these is just an amazing gore, symbolic flower, surprising map! i loved how the oleanders made a great strong part to thistleclaw actions definitely one of my favorite 2018 maps, great job!

[@brutthefatcatkatti9514]

Song: you stood beside me when I was out of my mind,I brooke the glass and you where there to sweep it aside, and if you leave me rest assured it would kill me... I'll make a mess and you'll be there to help me undress. I'll be unclean I'll be obscene you'll be the rest and if you leave rest assured it would kill me...... 🎶like an *oleander* light white leaves🎶...... of an *oleander* white like me....... I'm like a child in a sty "I play with fire" I burn you right out I burned your Bible you tried to cry "put on a smile!" And if you leave me rest assured it would kill me (rest assured if you...) leave~....... like an *oleander* light white leaves of an *oleander* white like me Oh the *oleander* white white leaves of an *oleander* white like me (Edit) ow my poor fingers hurt now

[@marble_k0i]

HECK YEA!! This turned out great and i look forward to seeing what new maps you come up with! I’ll definitely be trying to join the new Halloween one! aNyway this turned out great and good job to all the animators!!

[@humansadness3749]

i love that you included spottedleaf/paw. most people don't see spottedleaf’s heart as canon bc of he concept but since this map included both thistle and snow’s life you added spotted into it. i love this map so much.

[@aria5981]

Glad you acknowledged spottedleafs heart. It is canon, and just shows how dark the warrior cats series is.

[@ToolkaRoolka]

I adore mother mother cause they never take down videos with their songs so we could enjoy masterpieces ❤

[@autumn_animates1502]

I dont care that im early! I just am so excited this map is done! :D

[@MossSprout]

hey! do any of yall think Snowfur ever regretted having Thistleclaw as a mate? I feel like maybe she would, because once she got to starclan. I think once she saw how evil Thistleclaw was, I think she had second thoughts. But I also think she truly loved him too! and with love comes loss, I mean he went to the dark forest while she went to starclan, so I mean she did lose her mate, But she did get to have her son with her in starclan as well! so tell me what you guys think on if Snowfur ever regretted having Thistleclaw as a mate!!!!!!

[@kiiiooos]

In my opinion I think Snowfur sometimes does regret becoming Thistleclaw's mate but also loved him. I heard Thistleclaw went to StarClan but Bluestar chased him out

[@MossSprout]

@@kiiiooos where did you hear that Thistleclaw went to Starclan but BlueStar chased him out? I have never heard that before!

[@kiiiooos]

@@MossSprout So I did some research and I realised Thistleclaw never got chased out he just went to the Dark Forest right away lol sorry about that

[@MossSprout]

@@kiiiooos its ok lol! I was just really confused lol

[@letsdostuff8967]

I think she regretted being his mate but wouldn't take it back. Because she loved her son.

[@vi0lent1ce]

it looks SO good everyone did an awesome job on the map!!

[@fadedkat]

YAYYYYY ITS STUNNING I LOVE IT SO MUCH GOOD JOB EVERYONE

[@sad_boi_razor8983]

this is no longer JUST a great amv, but a nostalgia trip.

[@sweetpeaon3]

I cannot find the words to express how brilliantly well made this MAP was. Everyone did a fantastic job with their parts. I don't know how you did it Northflower, but you hosted yet another amazing MAP! ;;

[@ross_stp]

YES IVE WAITED EEEE EVERYONE DID TERRIFIC

[@lucasg9526]

woah, holy shit the animations are near flawless and the art styles are amazing, fantastic job can't wait for more

[@dicecantthinkstraight1357]

When I saw the part with Spottedleaf running away. I was like 'YOU BEST LEAVE HIM, HES SNOWFUR'S' But it is BEAUTIFUL.

[@sinisterquestionmarkinacti2801]

That.. was spottedpaw...

[@frizzleedits513]

Asrii Same cat

[@bellad0nna145]

I hate Spottedleaf so much. 100% least favourite character in the books, happy when I heard she died a second time

[@missingsplash3961]

Mistleleaf why tho? Bramble or Ivy are so much easier to hate

[@thatchysaurus5673]

Mistleleaf I hated Spottedleaf because of FirexLeaf it was really dumb and made Firestar seem like he didn't care about Sandstorm at all.

[@misslokiprime2672]

This map is absolutely breath taking, the song is perfect and all the parts are outstanding! Can't stop watching!

[@indigo8066]

OMG YESSSS ITS HEREEEE!!! I was watching everyone’s parts since forever and it’s here!!! Great job! It turned out amazing!!! I wish my notifications sent this sooner D:

[@idiotic-sand]

Yes! Finally! This is do beautiful!

[@jerrycarmody5866]

1:21 thistleclaw is almost as big as the road-

[@piperjoyart]

the ending to this still gets me.. i always feel hollow after watching it. i definitely agree with the HC that thistle was still breathing until she crushed the flower, and it makes the ending all the more closing.

[@movedchannelsflra8756]

YESSSSSS I’VE BEEN AWAITING THIS BEAST SINCE IT WAS OPEN TTTTTWWWWWTTTTT

[@beanieboolover5665]

1:18 Wow the detail here is amazing!

[@HaysterTheOtaku]

I thought we all agreed spottedleafs heart was not canon ... now how am I exposed to explain why I love this so much?!

[@WildLucidity]

YESS!!! THANK YOU FOR ADDING TWD GAME MUSIC!!! THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!

[@aslananight3906]

This is such a pretty MAP~ I love all of the flowers that grow around the cats and how they were incorporated in parts! Everyone did such a good job!

[@sophiablanco9236]

Great starclan! This came out so beautiful!! *le cri*

[@cypressy4250]

This is epic!! The animation was amazing and I loved the symbolism!

[@CloudyMintTea]

This map is so good! I've waited so long for it! Also I love the symbolism with the flowers and stuff! Just??? Ahhh!

[@Milkfake]

I absolutely LOVE how their relationship was portrayed in this, I was excited for the end result ever since the casting call was posted, haha. So many styles and they all come together so well!

[@yayamoth9718]

IVE WAITED FOR SO LONG!! AAAAA ITS BEATIFUL!!!

[@chewzX3]

I just realized that Thistleclaw pretty much created two murders that end up "working" together. (Tigerclaw/star and Scourge)

[@leomajor4145]

SmØlKittii :3 Thistleclaw didn't make them evil.

[@chewzX3]

I know, I suck at wording things... I mean he was associated with two cats who worked together.

[@fernthefox2826]

This turned out so good!! I love the change in amphosere at the end. I love this map

[@jamesp1148]

OMG It's Amazing! I Have Been Waiting For This!

[@deadaccountmovedtocheezefr3786]

Hello To Myself.

[@bonnie_starshine5739]

This is just amazing!!! @w@

[@lexiemars8202]

One word BEAUTIFUL

[@kingnamor7777]

Thirthclaw and Snowfur loved each so much. The moment Snowfur die Thirthclaw lost his mind while his hatreds for the other clans grow stronger😳.

[@guacamolee1570]

wOAH I LOVE HOW THIS TURNED OUT :00

[@huffnpuffn8300]

This is an amazing map! Everyone did great! 👌

[@Friedphesh]

Flower symbolism and warriors? I CLICK

[@dogsandcatsrule3856]

This amv was beyond spectacular, words counldnt begin to describe how beautiful/emotional/deep/amazimg this amv turned out. Both the metaphorical and story telling animation style fit so well with the song it truly felt like you were right there with Thistleclaw and Snowfur, as if you coukd feel every one of their emotions throughout the entire amv! So truly well done, you all did an absolute amazing job, and I couldnt ever begin to imagine this amv coming out any better than it did!

[@unikrinstall]

Woah! Been waiting for this for awhile! It looks awesome.