OLEKSANDR USYK VS MAIRIS BREIDIS - SCORING REVISITED

[@robboref7312]

Fair play to you doing this video.

[@zerocool..]

Never forget 118-111 Breidis -hatmanstrikesback

[@jah12wi]

Huckleberry 😂😂😂🤧🤧🤧

[@craigyp]

Respect to you for this one Hatman, I gotta say I was kinda surprised how much stick you got in the comments on the original video. I had it very close myself, to the point it could of gone to either man by a round or two or even the draw could of been acceptable for me. I guess the point people was trying to make wasn’t the argument of a Breidis win, it was probably the robbery thing. But you stand by your own opinion of what you have just seen the first time around and that’s exactly what you did in the first post fight video after the fight so there’s no issue there bro, you always speak openly and honestly about how you see it which is why I and so many of us enjoy your channel so much. Respect

[@hc6417]

Big respect for doing this follow up video, we can't always get it right every time. It was close but Usyk definitely won for me

[@Rich_Reid]

Rate you Hatman for the revisit.

[@roscoegeorge4556]

Hatman, I disagreed with you pretty big Saturday night but respect your intelligence, objectivity and character. You are still my number 1 boxing channel and we are all influenced by expectation sometimes. Keep up the great work man!

[@whatevermann3504]

Bellew would get banged out by both these guys... and he knows it, that's why he threw his WBC belt in the trash and chased a pay-day with Hayefaker.

[@seansavage2518]

Did you know he does it for his kids.

[@ESmaniak]

Have some respect

[@mattevans923]

whatever mann It's because he got more money for fighting Haye, money is what makes this world go round, what world are you on ?

[@thedjrichkid]

Who doesn't do it for their kids

[@craigyp]

Well you sort of answered your own point at the very start of that comment there, he very likely would be beaten by the pair of them, and neither of them could be flogged to the casual fan in the UK so financially there wasn’t much in it for him, yet he found the offer of lifelong financial security for him and his family ironically against a former undisputed cruiser champ who is way past his best. I’m no bellew fan whatsoever but you’re crazy to think you’d of played it any differently to what he did here. If I was in his shoes I’d of done exactly the same

[@akumasdeception]

I guess he hatman had to save face this time.

[@umark6695]

Fair play to you for reviewing the fight and correcting yourself on certain points.

[@KD-vq2wt]

LOL Trying to save face. Naa, don't back pedal now.

[@ramonnomar600]

Hatman nuff respect to take the time for a second opinion, normally I always agree with you but this time I was shocked with your comments. Anyway as I said respect for correcting your mistake about the robbery! I had Usyk winning the fight and it was a competitive fight up until Briedis start to blow to much steam for my liking and for me he was waiting too much to counter Usyk and many of his shots were hitting the gloves and defence of Usyk! Keep up the good work bro! Gilly from Netherland

[@sniper11n.d.34]

OLEKSANDR USYK won but it was close.

[@tedspoonboxing8837]

I fail to see how a case can be made for Breidis - a few nice uppercuts later on but thoroughly outworked.

[@BiggieBigLnPac]

Nice one hatman, thought ur post-fight video was bizarre you're usually spot on with your post-fight vids, glad u re-watched the fight and admit it was an evenly matched fight

[@coderkind]

Kudos for the video, and thanks for answering my question about who you thought won Calzaghe vs Hopkins (I thought Calzaghe too). Maybe I should rewatch this fight to see if I was wrong about Usyk *just* shading it :)

[@trevhib]

Excellent to bring this rebalancing after the last video. Props.

[@fitprotunes]

Well done for showing some humility. First time for everything.

[@TheLondekZdroj]

how can you say Briedis won the fight? It was a close fight but in the same time Usyk win was unquestionable.

[@johnseal9255]

Anyone think Usyk thought the wrong fight he tried to go to war with Briedis who i believed is the physically stronger man. I could see Usyks face that he was fairly frightened in this fight. Briedis deffo won most of the early rounds but Usyk came back in a bit halfway and started to counter Usyk. Briedis was never really hurt whereas Usyk was. Briedis was a lot more composed whereas as Usyk had excessive movement but i guess thats his amateur style.

[@MrJEvora]

Hatman... BIG UP! I was waiting for this post. I’m glad you made it. I told my Boxing friends that you would. It takes courage to admit. Congratulations. It was close, but I had Usyk winning. Anyway... Let us forget that other one.

[@flizzy4645]

Fight reminds me off GGG vs Canelo

[@samvj2739]

Good vid hatman i was getting a lil worried by that last vid 🤒lol

[@sulemanshahbaz7379]

Thanks Hatman I don’t know any of these boxers and watched it with the opportunity to score the fight through your teachings and I found it close I didn’t really have a clear winner either way a good match. glad you did a follow up video as I thought I was watching a different fight lol thanks again appreciate all the learnings through your videos

[@thedjrichkid]

Big up for making a video, you made me watch the fight again thinking i wasn't paying enough attention the first time

[@Kopend09]

The Richkid agree, hopefully you learn from this and admit your a ducker and ducked n dodge best out there

[@judgebumbaclaaartjudy3192]

Gotta big you up my bro. Big respect for you fa coming out rectifying tings.

[@jbusa6630]

Does anyone have a link to watch the fight? All the uploads I found are horrible quality. It says 1080 but looks like 360

[@rektbymcgegor6482]

Hatman don't let people bully u into changing your opinion if you thought usyk lost then thats your honest opinion u should not let people force u to change your opinion just because u get a bunch of dislikes anyways pce

[@zoepaterson8785]

REKT BY MCGREGOR I think this is a first. He usually argues his point until he's blue in the face. He genuinely has changed his mind (slightly, as he still believes Breidis won).

[@danmac145]

well said

[@tunjilegba]

He still thinks breidis won just not by a wide margin. I think cos he suggested robbery he back tracked

[@kiely4561]

Best lay off the skol larger before making a post fight video next time mate.....just messing with ya lol

[@bertRaven1]

credit that you took the time to review.

[@jonniewalker7103]

Humility, an endearing trait hatman 😉👍 just need the rest of the world catch up lol 😂, keep up the good work bro.

[@ryanrevolutionfoods8154]

Yeah respect for holding your hands up. The only wrong judgement since I have subscribed.

[@danmorriss]

I was a little salty that the underdog Breidis didn't get it, considering he fought the fight of his life, & with all due respect if you scored that fight for ANYONE by a wide margin, you really don't know as much as you think you do about the sweet science. I appreciate subjectivety but this was the essence of a close, highly competitive, skill vs will, Split/Majority Decision/Draw fight. And anybody who scored widely either way, their motives and emotional investment should be seriously questioned.

[@chris1806]

Usyk won no.doubt but it was a tight match because Briedis is one of the best cruiserweights. Your expectations of Usyk were too high prior to the match.

[@jsb1585]

Well done Hatman. Takes a lot to be honest in this way. Hats off to you

[@AriGoldBawse]

Best boxing channel

[@KIWIBOX]

good vid. i also thought it was closer than my first look but i still had usyk 115 113. like you said though it is pretty amazing the difference in performance level from breidis in the perez fight to this one. it is far from being put soley down to styles make fights. big credit to breidis for rising to the occation. was a great fight!

[@zerocool..]

KIWI BOX he’s only saying this now because he looked a fool saying it was a robbery

[@johndeighan2495]

I didn't score the fight round by round, but my impression was that the right man won. I could just about have accepted Briedis winning, though: it was a close fight. It's really refreshing to see someone listen, reconsider, and change his mind, even if you still think Briedis won.

[@puttyputty123]

Fair play Hatman. I was expecting a tough fight though since I have been impressed by Breidis before. I think we get too much caught up in hype in general and close fights doesn't mean that the favorite is automatically is losing or is so much worse than we thought - mostly because we hype or buy into hype too much. I love that this World Boxing series got, pretty much, a lot of the best of the best lining up against each other. Very excited about next cruiserweight fight in this series also, should be great. Not a foregone conclusion that Usyk will win in the end either. Don't think Usyk can afford to get hit that often cleanly against Gassiev/Dorticos either - they seem to punch harder.

[@johndawhale3197]

It's funny how people are saying Usyk will never beat Joshua based on this performance but when do you ever see that amount of activity from any of the taller Heavyweights with the exception of Wilder maybe. Usyk and Briedis traded about twice as many punches in their fight as Joshua has with any of his opponents. Usyk has a MASSIVE stamina advantage over Joshua.

[@johndawhale3197]

We've already seen what he's like at 220 in WSB and he looks better at that weight than when he's fighting at 199.

[@lewismusgrave8538]

JohnDaWhale3 for a stamina advantage to come into play you are going to have to actually make it to the later rounds. Unless Usyk can learn how to prevent getting countered like he did in this fight he probably won't. Not only does Joshua counter with much harder punches than breidis, but imo he is also a lot faster and more skilled at setting up traps with them too. Usyk never attempts counters himself, it's a big hole in his game.

[@johndawhale3197]

+Lewis Musgrave Usyk was fighting front foot a lot of the time against Briedis, he wont be doing much of that at Heavyweight. His style will look totally different against the bigger guys and he can use his legs to greater effect.

[@luisortizszimmerframe6933]

Fair play Hatman - I scored it after watching your initial response video and I ended up scoring it to Breidis by 2 rounds but there were at least 3-4 rounds that could have swung the other way depending on what you like and I have no problem with Usyk getting the decision because he was the one pressing the action for most of the fight...

[@danielwilliams5528]

Fair play to come out say your judgment was off I was shocked from the first review I didn’t care who won fight as I thought they both fought like champions should but edged Usyk by 2 rounds

[@Rich_Reid]

Question out to all those in the know...how exactly do you score a fight? Surely Judges have to go off a set standard rather than their personal preference? Or is that not the case?

[@Rich_Reid]

Cheers Ben.So if coincidently there's 3 Judges that prefer a particular style say a high work rate pressure fighter.....before a punch is even thrown that fighter has a slight advantage.Obviously i'm simplifying this massively but if boxing is the art of hit and don't hit. Isn't the winner of each round whoever lands the most effective shots? Can't technology help out?

[@shamidizzle]

There is a criteria for scoring fights. The 4 things you have to take into account is Ring Generalship, Defence, Effective Aggression, Hard & Clean Punches. Which one you prioritise depends on what you like as an individual when you watch a fight. For me personally Hard and Clean Punches is the most important then the others follow.

[@ridaa6789]

Credit to hatman for having the integrity to admit he might have been wrong. On another channel Richard Dwyer is so pissed that he got the Joshua v Wlad prediction wrong im waiting for Dwyer to predict his little baby could knock Joshua out.

[@martinsawh125]

Usyk by 2 or 3 rounds

[@jbusa6630]

116 - 114 Usyk. 2 even rounds, and 4 really close. Either one could be the winner. Damn good fight though.

[@necaacen]

Im gonna have to go back and watch it again properly now too. I was surprised by the downvotes tbh. I come for honest boxing talk and I feel like I get it every time, those thumbs are thanks for taking the time and providing the content and your thoughts, it aint about do I agree with all of them or not. I saw an interview with johnny nelson on behind the gloves where he was talking some nonsense and the downvotes were insane, like 4:1 against the video lol.... youre downvoting behind the gloves, theyve gone to the time to bring u the video, what does the thumbs have to do with if u agree with what the guy theyre interviewing says? I gotta be honest I find it quite strange, ppl go trigger happy on those thumbs man lol. as ever, cheers for the vids.

[@Jaay2o]

Hahaha I was thinking this too. They give the video a thumbs down because of conflict of opinion rather than thumbs up for them bringing us the content in the first place 😂

[@davidchester429]

Where can you see the wbss cruiserweight tournament live in the UK please?

[@chrishowarth9605]

david chester it was on ITV box office ... but was free.. sky channel 493 maybe

[@actorscrib5932]

Hatman that's why i got respect for you . I saw it on a russian channel. So had no understanding of what was being said . I had Usyk winning a close fight .

[@ArticulateDesignASMR]

Doesn't surprise me to see you hold your hands up buddy, still great to see though.

[@brencronin5424]

I'll be honest I found it to be about 70/30 on hat Mans comment section were perplexed by his view of the fight.styles make fights so you shut never judge how one fighter does against another fighter.I had the sound down and breidiss was eating jabs all night.I'm not a fan of udysk but for me he won. Respect to hat man for this video tho cos a lot of others wudnt

[@replenishrewire4758]

More like 80% of the comments disagreed with Hatman. 50/50...no fucking way lol.

[@brencronin5424]

Replenish Rewire I thought he'd lost his mind when I first saw but I'll give him his due for retracting what he said but the 50/50 bit was pure pride and ego talking.there's no way he wud av rewatched that fight if Half the comments agreed with him.not a fucking chance. I wanted udysk to lose so bad but the only thing blatant to me was the jab.the crowd were not the slightest bit bothered by the outcome and hat man was talking of riots.give me the number if your dealer hat man cos wot your smoking is better than what I'm smoking

[@lloydc1092]

Is this the same dude that people said would trouble anthony Joshua ? Seriously?

[@danmorriss]

By far better than Joshua Ring IQ wise. Size saves Joshua. But neither have a great defence tbf.

[@Tpbabyface]

@@danmorriss He knows what no one knows about usyk

[@mario_stoyanov1988]

That's more like it. The way I saw it I had Briedis 4-2 up after 6 rounds. In the second half though Briedis faded and simply didn't do enough to win at least two more rounds IMO.

[@DHEMGHJS]

I gave it to Uyk 6 rounds to 4, with 2 even.It was a close fight and the rounds I called even could easily have gone to Briedis.I watched it with Russian commentary so I wasn't influenced by that.You could have given a draw, but I don't think Briedis could justifiably have gotten the verdict.Fair play to you for being prepared to watch it again objectively.Usyk made the running Briedis was effective at countering his shots but imo didnt do enough to win.Usyk maybe suffered because he is perceived as some sort of destroyer,he is like Kovalev, a long puncher,ineffective inside,where Briedis was strong.

[@jamestaylor7076]

I personally felt Usyk shaded it! I think if briedis had kept up the work rate from the first 4 rounds I probably would have gone in his favour.

[@Lukey524]

Big up for rectifying your earlier video. Knew it was a bit out of character for you

[@HazzaSrz]

Re-subbed. Had unsubbed when i saw the first vid as I thought you'd lost your mind. Glad your using logic again

[@cameronleitch6675]

Perhaps you shouldn’t be subscribed if you can’t take a difference of opinion

[@trevhib]

What's missing here is the fact that this was a fantastic fight, absolutely top draw boxing from two champions, it was a titanic struggle for dominance in there that was never fully resolved, although for me Usyk looked the boss for more of the time.

[@Jaay2o]

Thought Usky was gonna breeze this tourney and move onto heavyweight and go on to become one of the top P4P fighters but he's gonna have to show me more against bigger guys however the Cruiserweight division is murderers row. And if Usyk unifies then goes to heavyweight he would give any of the champs hell IMO. This is something I want to see and he should be aiming for

[@PorthtowanNate]

Rate this hatman, thought it was very very close I had Usyk up but I can see how you could go the other way depending on what you like.

[@mashiullahravat8912]

Hatman I don’t know what ur watching. This ain’t the first time u have had fights so wrong. Really puts ur credibility in to question imo

[@j-bmash5641]

Debyaka a lot of people thought Jacobs won

[@Rockstar-bq5fm]

It was exceptionally close hatman and it really could of went either way and know one could complain what way it went I also have to say how great Breidas is he proved he was on Usyks level not saying Usyk is normal because I think both men are Exceptional!! Hopefully one day we get a rematch!!

[@TheJazzmoose]

I call it even. Usyk kept up the pressure throughout and looked fit where Breidis appeared to flag in second half (no snap in his jabs) but - Breidis rocked Usyk forcing him to clinch. Breidis had far more convincing power shots and Usyk's face told the story in the press conference. 115 115 for me - rematch should be offered for the belts

[@AirTime14]

Great to see you doing a video like that. I also thought usyk was gonna dominate briedis but he didn't. Briedis was better than everybody thought, but I think usyk won this 7-4-1

[@swallski9714]

Respect for admitting fallibility, big up as ever Hatman, I disagreed with the first video on the robbery call but damn close fight.

[@georgemilne2845]

I thought Briedis was a little predictable at times, I was surprised Usyk wasn't able to adapt better than he did.

[@christianbaxter5157]

50/50 online???? Doubt that.

[@deajechannel5882]

+hatmanstrikesback I know your not concerned with these KZbin beefs like this KSI vs Joe Weller at the copper box arena but are you interested on what numbers these guys are going to pull in one of Fisheye's favorite venues? Do you expect this fight to be the future of online conflicts? (Throwing on gloves and making money together?).

[@danmorriss]

WTF are you on about lol

[@deajechannel5882]

danmorriss two youtubers are fighting at a venue where frank warren usually stages fights. Now where we don’t have celebrity fights to compare this too in regards to numbers we know what Numbers BoxNation/Bt sports draw.

[@caskovgaard]

Nice Hatman, that you did this revisit. But you still believe Breidis won?.. oh well, it was close though. 116-113 Usyk.

[@christianbaxter5157]

I thought someone hacked your channel mate. Last vid was off the scale.

[@bigboy4718]

Touch on how you think he does at heavyweight now. I think all the champions would flat out defeat him.

[@TheJazzmoose]

Big Boy He's calling out AJ? Having seen this, he's no 6'3 Lomachenko. He'd last 2 rounds

[@Ryan-mo7re]

Where’s the Eddie Hearn video gone?

[@alexissanchez650]

Usyk clearly dominated, I had him up by 4 rounds. I was routing for briedis as he was a heavy underdog from a small country where he is probably much loved.

[@shamidizzle]

Appreciate the follow up video.

[@princeeris1780]

I watched it with Russian commentary (because I don’t understand Russian) and still had Usyk winning 7-5

[@mattm7510]

Fun fight to watch. I had it 115-114 with the 4th round even. I felt like rounds 2 3 and 4 could have gone to either fighter. I would love to see it again

[@mattm7510]

115-114 Usyk

[@janispirvics81]

Briedis are the absolute elite of the Cruiserweight division.

[@PickleishBILL]

I mean Batman thought Jacobs won (I believe) but we are all humans and have our own opinion

[@dgo0082]

Breidis is an elite boxer of course the fight was going to be close. This could count as the final depending on how the other fights go. The cruiser weight division maybe arguably the most talented division in boxing, a lot of people fail to acknowledge that.

[@mohammedshafiq5097]

I'm happy hatman isn't stubborn like teddy atlas. Like when teddy refused to give Jeff horn credit for defeating an over the hill Pacquiao.

[@haitianmaniac74]

114-114 is a fair scorecard

[@chreyzor]

I had Usyk winning but what threw people off way that it wasn't as one sided as one would have expected.

[@JonBernard41]

Massive "L" Opinion change based on subscriber backlash. Kinda weak, mate.

[@zerocool..]

Couldn’t agree more exactly what I said.

[@anwarwinston5749]

Idk if you watch his videos often but he doesn't care if his opinion differs from the masses so this comment of yours is rubbish. He's one of the most unbiased KZbinrs you'll ever see mate.

[@JonBernard41]

Well, to be biased is to favour something in a way that can be seen as irrational or unfair. An opinion is a judgment one makes on a particular subject with reasoning through facts or knowledge. "Bias" is better used in context if someone expresses an overtly prejudiced opinion or an unjust pretense of someone. In this instance, Hatman is *unbiased, because his opinion does not differ with YOURS. Class dismissed.

[@anwarwinston5749]

I didn't even watch the fight. Class hasn't even begun young man. You're handing him an L because he ignored the trolls but once seeing people he respect say they saw something different than his post fight analysis he decided to watch it for a 2nd time and saw something different from the first watch in terms of margin of victory, but the same in terms of victor. Ball is in your court.

[@edaniel8003]

At first I thought the fight could’ve gone either way but when I rewatched it in HD I had Usyk winning in a close but clear fight

[@jah12wi]

Fairplay

[@janispirvics81]

And he can fight at heavyweight division as he did that before l wanna see him there.

[@owen8538]

Usyk lost here .Should get a rematch these guy can beat usyk

[@ismailhussain7679]

Interesting times

[@peternagy-im4be]

Fascinating

[@Danjohnson666]

This is why it pisses me off when people call usyk the big lomachenko. They are nothing alike, usyk has never had a great defence he's always been much easier to hit.

[@zerocool..]

Nah you take a huge L after last night, your only saying this now because you came across all amateurish & sound like a causal. You had it 118-111 with a round even. You got it so wrong it’s unbelievable. Saying it was a robbery, if you said draw or by one or two then we can’t argue with you. but saying you went back & checked what other ppl scored then in watching it again in HD then coming away with you were in shock. HUGE L

[@anwarwinston5749]

Uncle Chop Chop not an L at all. He picked Usyk to win. His eyes didn't see that the first or second watch. He did however realize the fight was closer than he initially thought. Nothing wrong with rewatching a fight.

[@Gs-nc4jx]

I thought Usyk won pretty clearly, though. Very competitive fight. I scored the first 6 round 3 a piece. 2nd half of the fight I scored 5-1 to Usyk,. having said that there’s a lot of very close rounds that could have been scored either way

[@owen8538]

These was usyk s hardest fight an he lost here draw at best

[@themotochannelu.k5098]

Hatman, stand by your word !! If you thought briedis won then thats fine by me, this is boxing and sometimes we have different views, i thought it was close and also had briedis winning, but that was not usyk at his best, boxers have off nights, but if you have been beat then you have been beat !!

[@HatmanStrikesBack]

+The Moto Channel U.K I saw it different on second viewing. I can't lie (to myself and the viewers) and say I saw it the same way as I did on first viewing, just to be stubborn. I have to keep it real.

[@themotochannelu.k5098]

HatmanStrikesBack respect.

[@ThePumpkin2006]

i scored it 114 - 114 however i feel that the rounds i scored for briedis were far more convincing than the ones i scored for usyk i agree with hatman and was far more impressed with briedis' performance and his clean effective counter punches than usyk's higher output quality over quantity for me

[@kylecraig351]

Get the lemsip out m8 sounding a little croaky

[@texasc8240]

I think it was a draw

[@Ryan-mo7re]

Saved watch the ‘Eddie Hearn on blast’ video until I got home. Now it’s gone 😏

[@4ight984]

No hatman You just believed in the usyk hype for some foolish reason. Usyk is a average fighter with amateur style at best. Usyk vs any decent fighter is always going to be competitive because he is just average bro.

[@hyena-chase2176]

average ?? Haha