Oli Sykes' Vocal Rupture - Is it a career killer?! Can it happen to you?

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[@tryten9]

Wasn't really a fan of BMTH but it sucks for this to happen to him.

[@bushwicksniper]

He sounded ridiculously good at the New York show for the Amo tour. He can still scream and he proved it 10 fold.To be honest I think it was just too many shows not enough rest. But I’m no doctor and I’m not Oli. But I’m glad I got to see them because that show was insane.

[@oblyviapa]

I think it can happen just from yelling over loud music alot too.

[@Todn_Hamekul]

Victor I agree!

[@paulaseoane]

I lost my voice for over a month without being able to recover it. I recently realised that it was because of over partying and since I let it rest it's coming back to normal so thankfully I'll be back to singing soon. Great video, I've learnt a lot with it! I'm not really a fan anymore but I hope Oli recovers from his injury!

[@jakedoesmusic5372]

over partying is a real thing. I wondered why i fucked up my voice constantly last year, until i stoped going out twice every weekend. now my voice is stronger and healthier than ever.

[@7s7rg77]

@@jakedoesmusic5372 I think I must have given myself the vocal hemmorage, not drinking enough water, partying too hard and pushing too hard while hitting some high notes in my clean singing and going deeper than I ever used to go, in my 'gutteral screaming'

[@OhHeyItsJessica]

Oliver sykes has been sick for the past few weeks (You can tell in how he talks and singing) and he essentially was playing russian roulette with each show. The last show his voice was *really* struggling sadly :/

[@d0giem]

IL LOAD THE GUN YOU PLACE YOUR BETS

[@medusa6491]

@tia Over and over again, we play the same old games !

[@mlmichel98]

He and the whole band was sick apparently, so that played a huge role

[@voicehacks]

That's what I mean by many factors and we shouldn't be too quick to judge! That may definitely have played a role here

[@HappyPurpleNoob]

I've been, rencently, to a BMTH show in Mtl. He actually did surpass himself with screaming vocals. I never saw him scream with that much pitch. It impressed everyone I saw a lot of '':O'' faces. He went pretty Rock N Roll on that tour I believe... Then doing that high pitched scream and seeing him recover his cords in a bubble on stage.

[@solikewhatlol]

Brother. That is too many comer's in a sentence (referring to your opening sentence). Again you can't start a sentence with "then" . Do not try to to look smart if you don't even know proper syntax for English language. All of that aside, I agree with everything you said. Just don't embarrass yourself like that.

[@kittenfawn]

@@solikewhatlol shut up

[@gabehurtado9485]

I was very impressed with their LA show!

[@JeffH4rdy96]

I wanted to add the information, that Oli still does scream and at the very first concerts of the tour for their new album AMO, end of last and start of this year, they even played some of their old Deathcore and other heavy stuff for like 10 minutes aswell. You can find videos about that on KZbin and all this information is from these mentioned videos + me being at their very first concert of the tour.

[@KaiWeissmann]

She says that in the video

[@indosilver123]

I was at the LA show, it was mental... I never would have said that he got injured during that, but they did a ton of old stuff and he screamed his face off. It was amazing. Hope he comes back well!

[@dylanparrott8347]

I just hope Oli be all right

[@tiah3696]

He is, he tweeted he's all healed up

[@JRHockney]

Can you do a review on Phil Anselmo? His screams are brutal and I still wonder if its proper technique. I haven't seen a single vocal coach review him and you are probably the best person for the job that I've seen so far.

[@Stevejoohee]

Glad you mentioned Phil. His screams are ridiculous.

[@mattball420]

I think he kinda goes between voice with distortion and false chord, just blends it really well

[@bradhargis2261]

Phil is just a monster. I miss pantera.

[@herberthooverfeetpics4595]

A combination of heavy smoking and vocal overuse/abuse. Not all of it was proper.

[@chrisukeYouTube]

I'm 99% sure it's because of that particular scream he's been doing like in Wonderful Life, the one after the intro/riff. Sounds damaging when heard live.

[@m_noway]

You mean that insanely high pitched scream/shout? Bc that one sounds damaging to me even though it's cool as fuck. Rather have him not do it if it keeps his voice strong

[@SynthXV]

Isn't that just a power fry? Maybe he's not using the right technique

[@chrisukeYouTube]

@@SynthXV No, it's more of a shriek.

[@JamesLivewire]

That’s not him (in the recording) it’s Dani Filth. If he’s being trying to replicate it live I don’t know..

[@traviscampbell4623]

Dani does it in the recording and he’s been doing it for years. I’ve heard Oli nail it live though

[@SydneyChromatic]

I destroyed my voice by screaming a lot when I was younger. I don't know how to explain it right but it's like one of of my vocal chords is tighter than the other. Imagine playing an octave on a guitar with one out of tune string

[@icantthinkofagoodname1838]

Oli put out a statement on Twitter that he ruptured his right vocal chord.

[@JeffH4rdy96]

Looking forward to other videos about Oli!

[@MartaRzehorz]

"Imagine the surface of your eye being slapped" I didn't see that coming

[@oblyviapa]

It happens to great singers all the time! Get better soon to Oliver! Great video thanks for sharing. I second additional videos about BMTH style vocals!

[@Courier_07]

Hello! I am from the future! He healed, and the new album was sick🤘

[@brandonmaas8505]

I seen BMTH live a few weeks ago, and he screams alot during concerts still. Alot louder and more powerful.

[@fdcx1852]

His voice has been struggling since 2015 the rupture was a blessing in disguise

[@lucidityfps9638]

Listen to “Pray For Plagues” and you’ll figure out why his voice box was screwed in the first place.

[@ScheisseTyranna]

Have an injury myself right now, its devastating and I'm not even a pro singer. Working on recovery and improving technique, hopefully it returns okay.

[@voicehacks]

Rest as long as you can, take your time coming back!

[@KrisRenfrow]

Just saw them in Nashville a month ago and seeing them again at Sonic Temple in Columbus. They’re so good live, hope Oli rebounds okay!

[@cobraglatiator]

could you do a reaction to Of Mice & Men one of the songs austin carlile was a vocalist for? and talk about his fry screams and whatever relation those and his marfans syndrome may have had?

[@Waltonslots]

4 years later and it Definately healed.

[@cyronux5175]

7:30 go on radio 1’s channel, they have raw live performances, even from screaming days.

[@emkstr]

Until watching your video I had no idea that a rupture is (likely) synonymous with a hemorrhage! I *had* this happen to me! I was starring in the musical in my senior year of high school when two days before opening night, I opened my mouth to sing and had lost 99.9999% of my voice. When I tried, it was like a squeaking clarinet or no sound at all. Prednisone got me through the first two shows, and on the third I went to hit the SUPERSTAR note of my solo and.... HONK! SQUEAK!

[@moshpitjunkie8122]

His deathcore was on point all tour until he got sick. Duh that's gunna hurt your vocals

[@davidortega3825]

you should do a video on Spencer Charnas from Ice Nine Kills

[@Trent2002W]

Well he does scream live ( The House of wolves, Happy song, antivist, There old school melody) and has been screaming since 2003/2004

[@narasangga]

Please react to Sam Carter of Architects

[@oskari3659]

That's some screaming I definetely wouldn't try without some good tips from vocal teacher

[@JayBadloss1989]

Hes amazing live

[@nevermindthebull0cks]

I got very sick one time and threw up hard for hours. Lost my voice 100% for a week and couldn't even raise it to say HEY! for over a month. It took a long time to be able to "sing" again.

[@tiah3696]

He just tweeted he healed fully

[@Emily-gn2iv]

I'm pretty sure he ruptured his vocal cords back around 2010 as well

[@kirasussane1556]

Oli use to be very clueless about music when he started. I remember watching an interview where he say he couldn't distinguish between a cymbal and a snare and he neither knew how to scream with the proper technique. Also he was addicted to ketamine for years.

[@thatonecarlbs4406]

I starting doing metal screaming without warming up and thats what happened. Ive lost my voice for a few days now:( I’m hoping it will go back to normal.

[@WackorMiki]

Mary thanks for the reminder about these bloodthinning medicine side effects! I have to use them on a daily base and it is easy to forget of how they weaken tissues despite that the side effects was memorised - but time is a great eraser. I really appreciate the insight. I'll be more cautious. About Oli, He'll be fine and I wish him quick recovery. I've been through all of this and some other horror voice destroying problems as well, some requiring years to recover and all I can say is that if it doesn't kill you it just makes you stronger.

[@xdraylx]

As far as where the band is right now and his situation, It's true that most of the tracks are backed and specially jordan is always there to make his voice thicker. I know its a shame that oli cant perform much of what they have but atleast he never gave up on the band and still exerts great effort to entice the crowd. But imho the singing status is 35% oli 65% jordan.

[@vincew4200]

DOESNT SCREAM ANYMORE HAVE ANY of u been to a recent concert lol.. dude still bangs out Chelsea smile and diamonds at like every show

[@gabehurtado9485]

The Comedown was sic!

[@Jonpwpb]

no he doesn’t, there’s been various shows that he doesn’t perform those songs.

[@vincew4200]

UHH well Ive seen him twice this year and he played them at both as well as countless youtube videos from 2018 where he does {actually at one he only played Chelsea smile the other he played both but im just saying to say he cant or doesn't is a lie}

[@gabehurtado9485]

They've been playing a mix of 3 old heavy songs in one. Plus random growls/screams throughout the set...

[@vincew4200]

@@gabehurtado9485 yea I think it jus depends on how hes feeling they did the mashup at one.... the other one they only did Chelsea im jus saying to say he doesn't isn't true and in fact I think he does it better then the first time I saw them over 8 years ago

[@nukexD]

He canceled the last show in Las Vegas, severely disappointed since I spent over a $1000 just to get to Vegas and not see them. Hopefully when he recovers he makes up for it by starting his tour on the west coast.

[@Momo-qm6wl]

Commenting 5 years later, I can ensure that this thankfully wasnt a career killer. And now that he is better trained, his singing voice is honestly better than ever. Even his screams are still pretty damn good.

[@voicehacks]

So so glad to look back and see people overcoming!

[@Dmatic89]

Good Info. Thanks Mary Z! 👌

[@seasick2088]

It was sad, But he will come back!

[@gisselleayala8092]

smoking can also affect vocals

[@astralgod6448]

for the better

[@astralgod6448]

Gisselle A i’ve been learning how to metal scream and rasp for a while and i figured that when smoking i sound raspier and better at screaming

[@yourerightdawg]

Take your tonsils and adenoids out and you’ll do better vocally

[@aleksi3679]

@@astralgod6448 Thats bullshit. I smoke too but there is nothing to with that. Its all about technic. Smoking is only bad for singing. Throat is fully of shit etc. and cause you ”cleaning” you throat all the time which is bad for your vocal cords.

[@relyksdjoser6429]

It's like what happened to Danny Worsnop. He blew out his throat back in 2012 or 13 I think, and ever since he has recovered perfectly fine but his singing has definitely changed. He has more rasp than he used to but he's become an even better singer overall from going through the trauma and the training / rehab. This could be a good thing for oli in the end as he cannot relearns how to sing and scream if he ever screams again.

[@ChadBillAnderson]

Very insightful video!

[@marcelacarreira8386]

the problem (at least what I am concerned about ) is that he have already showed some signs before. I'm not a specialist, but his voice in the song "Doomed" in That's the Spirit... it was so raw, and I do not think it was in a healthy way. Also, he lowered the key of some of the songs when played them live (without a reason, apparently) and still had Jordan Fish singing with him. Maybe Jordan was completely planned, but lowering the key of your own song? I honestly can't see why he'd do that (english is not my native lenguage, so sorry if I got any terms mistaken)

[@MaPleWoRlDOrder]

I don't know if he actually has a career anymore. He's always had bad technique and I think this is it finally catching up to him. He will have to alter how he sings clean vocals/do them correctly or his career is over. It's too late at this point for him to go back to his old styles so he's basically pigeonholed himself into doing the style of vocals that hurts him. I could be wrong tho. He might be able to get a much better technique and still be able to do cleans well enough. But that might takes years of practice and idk if his career can survive that.

[@jannik-x]

This happened to me a coupe of weeks ago. Excessive speaking in a range lower than my natural voice combined with insufficient hydration. (Narrator voice gig and i forgot to bring a water bottle. So simple but so stupid.). Worst part is my physician didn't even take me seriously, he just said i probably have a cold or something and told me to go home. Fortunately I am recovering, but damn, I was basically mute for almost two weeks and it's still not fully healed. Not fun.

[@voicehacks]

Oh NO! Rest up! Hope you feel better soon.

[@demondrive147]

You are looking magnificent, Mary Z!

[@melaniecain9228]

Lead singer of the band Cinderella lost his voice . Now he sounds incredible ! But , it took a long time . I believe his name is Tom Keifer & I read that he now has an awesome vocal coach .

[@voicehacks]

Yeah he lost his voice not from a technical issue but a really bad flu in the early 2000s that gave him vocal fold paralysis. This is not super common but it can happen to anyone. I am glad to hear he’s functioning and recovered now!

[@JareuAnimation]

Hi Mary! at 4:54 you mentioned uncontrolled shouting. Do you have a video on this at all? I feel like I might be shouting when trying to make notes just slightly above my normal range, but at the lower end of falsetto range. Sounds forced and strained, is this what you were talking about?

[@voicehacks]

Yeah that's exactly what I was talking about! Basically try my Belter series playlist and see if that helps you relax more at the top of the belt range. Also check out my breathing exercises for screamers.

[@JareuAnimation]

@@voicehacks Great! Thankyou :)

[@ScreamingEggroll]

This will not end his career even if it never fully heals. He can still sing even if not quite as well. Stuff like this has happened to many singers before. I saw him at welcome to rockville a couple weeks ago and i could tell he couldnt sing as well or put as much into it but it didnt matter cuz they still put on an amazing show and he can still scream well. He will still be able to put more effort into albums.

[@alejandromallada992]

Nice vid! it would be awesome if you analyse his screaming in the deathcore medley they are doing lately.

[@KrisRenfrow]

If anyone can answer this it would be dope. Would Sleepwalking and Can You Feel My Heart be classified as Vocal Distorion? While something like Shadow Moses, Antivist, Anthem, and the end of Happy Song would be classied as Fry Scream? I always figured Oli used False Chord...?

[@tyken144]

Can u plz make a vocal tutorial or even analyzing Jonny Craigs vocals. I don't understand how he strains so easily and can add grit over such clean notes

[@tyken144]

Watch some studio and live videos of him in Emerosa, Dance Gavin Dance and Slaves. He's insane

[@dougarnold7955]

I love your vids. Thanks.

[@charlesdjones1]

My instincts say you could any of Stevie Nick's songs. It would be great to see something along those lines.

[@xravenx24fe]

I'm not a professional vocalist or an instructor but Oli's technique sounded really rough and forced 90% of the time. It's not surprising that he's sustained some sort of injury, regardless of how severe it is. Hopefully it's not so bad that he can't perform their newer songs that feature next to no screams but who knows, considering all these years of hard, uncontrolled screaming has really done some damage...

[@comicbookprodigy995]

Coming back to this video after Ludens, haha!

[@adamnienke3633]

This is random, but it'd be really cool to see you do an analysis of Travis Ryan's vocals, especially from Cattle Decapitation's last two albums. I find his delivery super different and interesting. Sorry this wasn't Oli related, just have been meaning to ask for this haha

[@jahnig5327]

Honestly this was announced right after my show and i thought we broke him lol oof how long ago 2019 feels

[@shunedits6155]

It was a small rip in his vocal cords from singing while extremely tried.

[@xfortunesquex]

An injury like that is a vocalist's worst nightmare. I wouldn't wish it on anybody! I wonder if could have even had a horrible bout of flu of some type and really hurt himself.

[@_Vennos_]

I saw them live a few weeks ago when they were in Houston and he was sick and having a hard time. Maybe this had something to do with it. Still was a great show though.

[@realshaolinprince]

I was a drill sergeant and taught how to yell. He should be fine in a few weeks. But there could be permanent damage. Could be.

[@moshpitjunkie8122]

The whole band was sick. He will be fine

[@codyeakinsbradley]

"we no more do deafcore cuz we all gwoed up" blows voice again

[@lukehostetter9354]

Hahahaha @cody bradley

[@disturbed4everluke]

lol they do a deathcore medley almost every concert.

[@farhahaha]

lmao i read it in olis accent

[@codyeakinsbradley]

@@disturbed4everluke yea. I too laughed at the footage

[@Monkeyz73]

He hurt his vocals on a new song. They played the deathcore medley right after he hurt his throat.

[@abitatts]

I noticed your audio sounds super low. Maybe it's my phone but I have my volume on full blast and it's not helping. Other videos on KZbin are quite loud on the loudest volume.

[@deephorizonofficialmusic6639]

that's not true oli is just not very constant with is power and pitch but's that's normal it's live. sometimes you want to sing a few part and sometimes scream. this is not studio and oli is a show man he move a lot in live =)

[@MisterBolticus]

He screams live all the time still and that's probably why

[@NeuroticNexus]

Perhaps it was the final tattoo, as there isn't any bare skin left he may have decided to ink his vocal cords as a last resort? 😬😳

[@tyrivera9924]

If he plays it smart like matt heafy, he should be fine. He might have to relearn how to safely do vocals but it will pay off in the long run

[@arash5550]

Make reaction videos plz. It would be helpful.

[@saraxuskodocai9484]

It's totally off topic, but I didn't know where else to say this, but I think it would cool if you reviewed the vocalist for Silencer.

[@doctorstrainlove6318]

Soo wtf should vocalists take for headaches?

[@voicehacks]

Tylenol is not an NSAID that’s one option

[@johanmaxen6698]

could you react to dani filth of cradle of filth. A good video is cruelty brought the orchids live video

[@freedom9729]

Damn Oli I didn't even hear about this lol

[@adamhurter1079]

Career killer was more about change in music direction

[@kajiyono5900]

conclusion: IT'S TIME TO REPLACE no heart feeling, it's for the greater good

[@Yodplods]

There is a performance from Jimmy Kimmel that has decent vocal audio, might be useful for you.

[@lostleblanc1846]

Matt shadow can still scream. But not too powerfull like before

[@Todn_Hamekul]

fry? I thought false cord

[@frankiebloodshed]

Still upset that Oli turned on Metal cuz it doesn't make him money but I hope he recovers soon. I hope he uses the money he's making now to pay for any medical attention he needs. Also, tottaly off topic but, how do people who smoke still sing so dang well without any rasp or anything in their voice?

[@transient442]

Frankie Bloodshed i don’t think you understand.. bring me the horizon were a massive band writing heavy music they took a major risk when changing direction. it’s not like just because you write a pop song you instantly gain fans and get money it doesn’t work like that they could’ve easily flopped. it’s clear that bring me the horizon after a decade of playing heavy music just got bored and wanted something new, don’t blame them.

[@SuperFreshBanana]

@@transient442 Plus with that kind of logic they would've gotten a lot harsh backlash like suicide silence did with their last album.

[@BidoMaggot]

what is metal to you then? @@sorchatheraven

[@transient442]

Sorcha the raven they played deathcore then they went metalcore.. which are both sub-genres of metal meaning they are metal.

[@m_noway]

They still play the deathcore songs in concert

[@capitanchoselos4118]

He just had a cold that he got from matt kean... but this sounds too "normal" and is not spectacular enough... that's all...

[@evanp9146]

I'm more interested in those KRK monitors than i am BMTH.

[@cryxbaby2250]

He still screams tho

[@Jmack7861]

Obviously not lol he’s done it before

[@jordanmattingly4854]

If you seen him live this last tour you know they play songs from their older albums, sepiternal, count your blessings and such, I’m convinced that’s how it happened, they didn’t just play their new album, it was fifteen song set and they only played 4 of their new songs from AMO . Essentially it’s everyone who is dogging them for not screaming anymore are at fault. We have known for years that Oli’s voice has been damaged but they wanted to appease the fans and this is the result.

[@BrandonPerezOne]

Not true at all. BMTH doesn't listen to metal or care for the genre anymore that's why they stopped making that music. They said it themselves they don't care what metal fans think of them so why try impressing anyone? And if screaming does damage his voice why did he still do it on the new album? He's been doing this for years now. What he really lacks is vocal technique. There last tour whenever they were just a couple songs in Oli was already out of breathe singing the new songs.

[@jordanmattingly4854]

Brandon Perez have you watched any of the interviews they’ve done? They have literally said they still care about their old fans and music but it was time for them to move on and do what they want not to be stuck in the mold of what others want. They have literally and I quote said they want to, and love to, be the band that bridges others from pop rock to metal.And yes, he did lack vocal techniques, and it has damaged his voice that’s why he only does it on TWO songs on this last Album, because guess what, they still enjoy heavier music too. Of course he’ll be out of breath, you sing a 15 song set while jumping around and screaming and singing and not lose your breath. EVERY high energy concert I’ve been to the singer runs out of breath three, four songs in, that’s part of it, they are jumping, sweating, and every thing in between. I’ve never seen so much hate given to one band because they made an album of music they wanted to make. Nobody is entitled to anything. Weird thing is this is their most popular release to date.

[@mentaltelepathy24]

Lol wasn't this like the 5th time it happen to him

[@GuitarHeroAddict92]

That's what happens when you go pop xD But i'm sorry for him for this happening.

[@franninchen]

This comment is just stupid. He had the same thing happening back in 2009 on a European tour. They still played those shows with him standing at the side and those singers from the other band skipped in and made his job on stage.

[@psychicsidekick1858]

thats looks like kitten

[@fabioa561]

lol his voice is bad live already it won't change a thing. after it heals he will go back to playing shows

[@remmile]

considering how basic his singing is now, he could have been easily replaced, no need to cancel the rest of the tour lol

[@shaunpalmer2944]

Do you have any medical background? Or are you just smart lol