Olight’s new Osight Is A Reviewer Honesty Test

[@bigshug3127]

Did olight sponsor you and you stayed real about it?! Your first sponsor?! Deskpop you savage, you. 😂❤ putting the viewers first. Much love and stay safe bro

[@DeskPop]

I want to be clear when we set the precedent that we will give you guys REAL honest reviews. If that costs us a relationship with a company and potential revenue (that we desperately need) then so be it. Y’all deserve some real content.

[@bigshug3127]

@@DeskPop can't think of anyone else taking a hard stance like that and actually following through. You hear others say that they don't shill but it never stays true.

[@dragonblood0012]

@@DeskPop first review ive seen from you, instant sub, this is the kinda reviews i love. keep up the good work.

[@thelethalpredator672]

​@@DeskPop been watching your vids past few weeks, and that statement there just made me sub. Need some more honest reviewers!

[@Osprey1994]

You don't watch that many people.​@@bigshug3127

[@OvertonWindex]

Yeeeepppppp, Both mine don't hold zero. At all.

[@MattWaller04]

Your review was exactly what I needed to see to never touch that shit lmao

[@js2009-g9f]

Yep mine is still holding zero after 2k rounds.

[@ryanburbridge]

Love how this OW guy acts like he doesn’t watch guntube lol

[@Kycirion]

​@@MattWaller04 Overton is man-child who thinks every opinion he has is a Objective God given fact. Despite a great many of them being absolute horse puckey.

[@canis_machina7280]

@@ryanburbridge His whole character is the bad cop of guntubers. I kinda like it because it makes him feel like a real person instead of just an online personality.

[@PolenarTactical]

Good review, no bullshit

[@DeskPop]

Bit of a risk for us on this one, I’m hoping honesty pays off 😅

[@bagel411]

Still want to see DeskPop at lynx brutality.

[@DeskPop]

@@bagel411 when we can afford it we will go, the Polenar guys are my favorite friends (I don’t even have a passport)

[@anthonygerber8261]

@@DeskPopgot me as a new subscriber. Appreciate the honesty.

[@randomguy-z2l]

ever since Ziga personally helped me pick a holster for my delta 4 years ago over email, polenar became one of my favorites and always will be. I trust Polenar with no bullshit

[@jamesmalouf4034]

PSA: Monstrum piggyback mounts don’t hold zero if you buy the 3-piece adapters. I traded them in and got the solid 2-piece adapter and it holds zero perfectly against a mallet.

[@DeskPop]

Noted; this is good info as we’re making a video on one of optics and it’s honestly extremely impressive so far

[@KELEVRA004]

Had one of their lpvo's a while back and from a 1 foot drop the ocular housing bent. Not dent, bent. No longer inline with the rest of the scope body lmao

[@derbydriver]

Not an Olight fan here but we need to he accurate. The exploding light had NOTHING to do with Olight except happenstance, they weren’t even required to appear in court over it. It was a cheap Chinese battery of the wrong rating that the Olight owner installed in his Olight. He held the light in his mouth while working on his car, the battery overheated and exploded, and popped the cap off the back, which lodged itself in his airway and he choked to death. Just as Glock isn’t to blame when Freedom Munitions detonates like a nuke, Olight wasn’t to blame for a wrong and cheaply made battery being used in their light.

[@tombarnett937]

Wow, that's Final Destination Freak Accident multiplied by plain old Darwinian stupidity, right there. Poor bastard.

[@projectiledysfunction2217]

The specific phenomenon that caused the olight to explode is called reverse charging, and any light that uses multiple CR123As is susceptible to the exact same thing. The chemistry of the cheap Nuon brand batteries that the victim was using is apparently extremely likely to cause issues, regardless if it's in a cheap or expensive light. Can't post links but just search for "Photon Phreaks cr123a reverse charging" and you'll find an article that describes the issue in depth. The same article cites other incidents with different brands that used multiple cr123a batteries, which is why the industry has been moving away from them

[@Antre_du_Dingo]

@@tombarnett937 Yep, poor bastard but nonetheless many people are still blaming Olight for it...

[@kwiturbitchin5277]

Not intentionally trolling here but it’s funny you said “a cheap Chinese battery” is to blame for the unfortunate malfunction in a cheap Chinese light.

[@bansheerider619]

I absolutely hate it when people say Olight lights explode. Dont be a moron and they are great lights.

[@poortac5568]

My review is dropping tomorrow. Mine lost zero (by about 3 inches at 15 yards)when racking it off the optic 15 times. But it shifted back… It held zero under recoil though. I used a Zev cut slide with post and 4-40 screws. Lets just say the included 4-40 screws and the tolerances of the Osight screw hole tolerances cause the sight to shift slightly when hit. They need better/longer screws and a smaller hole. This is not unique, almost every cheaper Chinese optic Ive used had this same tolerance issue. They all held zero perfectly on a traditional RMR cut with forward post (because the fit was snug, with zero wiggle). You can watch my review tomorrow if you want the nerdy specs/measurements. Spoiler, it does have other practical issues…

[@lucusloc]

I had the same problem with the Sig Romeo Zero. I used it on a RMR pic mount that had no "cut" face to index against and it would flop around under recoil. You could even press on it with your thumb and watch it shift zero. Turns out Sig has a video out that stays you *must* index this sight against a cut in order for it to hold zero, as the polymer body and screws alone are not enough. I did get a full return from the vendor, as they agreed that representing the sight as "compatible" with a RMR mount while not mentioning it needed a cut in the product description (which is not part of the RMR specs) was misleading. As far as I am concerned Sig needs to add that to the product description; you need an RMR spec mount *with a cut* to index against in order to run those kinds of optics. (for those who are curios the screws can wedge the optic against the front face of the cut, which is why the tolerances on the screw holes themselves are not all that important when using both features to index and secure the sight.)

[@poortac5568]

@@lucusloc good info 👍

[@OvertonWindex]

My 2 were/are indexed and plated properly. The zero moves constantly. Check it after 2 rounds, moved. Check it after another 2 rounds, moved. It's the optic.

[@poortac5568]

@@OvertonWindex Weird, sounds like it is a QC/design issue then. I must have got a rare one that works 🤷‍♂️

[@OvertonWindex]

@@poortac5568 You are in the minority, it seems. Not including you, 8 out of 10 that I’m aware of, are crap.

[@sk18mangaming]

"Ugh it tastes like china!" Immediately proceeds to show us the china made holosun on his edc

[@bigtexashunts8219]

That’s how he knows it taste like china

[@EthanRavenWing]

At least they keep zero 🙄

[@Slide_bite]

Why aren't we dropping a Boulder on our holosun?!?!

[@roshawn1111]

they cost too much LOL

[@iamnotarealboy]

Because Holosun has proven their reputation. Olight has not.

[@bravosixs1446]

508t Break the rock !

[@Jonj57]

​@@iamnotarealboy I've yet to see anyone pick up a 10 lb rock and continuously drop it on any other sight lol. I have no doubt some will survive but if that's the standard I don't think as many sights are as good as people think lol.

[@kennyjeffers9968]

I would like to see that rock dropped on the 507 comp. I bet it wouldn't hold up either

[@maxlvledc]

Yikes, I was going to have a friend test one of these for my olight video but I doubt he would have pushed it this far. Glad you did, saved me from missing important info 👌

[@Frostytravels]

Olight batteries were not the culprit on the blowup...it was the wrong size placed into the light. That being said, great review. This is exactly what is needed, HONEST reviews. Well done man.

[@Tayoshi]

That's a very good point. Can you show me any instance of reliable light brands that have exploded due to an incorrect battery?

[@Ming-Chan]

Using CR123As in something meant for AA or whatever happened is definitely not a good idea in any flashlight that won't support it. I haven't had of any dangerous, explosive failures with any of Olight's products with their own sealed batteries. I've been using lights like the Odin mini, Baldr mini, i5T, and Arkfeld Pro with no issues. They're cheap enough for me to cover my needs with EDC keychain/Pistol/Long Gun/emergency spare etc vs buying something expensive like a Surefire for just 1 gun. They can handle a flashlight no issue nowadays. I'm definitely skeptical when they enter another market, especially with first generation products. I'll come back around if they identify and address flaws like those in the video.

[@DankSandwich]

@@Tayoshi keep in mind, it’s not the light, or brand of the light; it’s the battery. Just look it up, this can and has happened many, many times with many “high end” brands, up to and including surefire. The reason Olight took so much flak for it is due to the fact that they had just entered the weapon mounted light market and the gun community is littered with elitist snobs who caught a whiff of this and decided to blow it out of proportion: “If you’re not spending $400+ on your LED with a battery encased in aluminum, you’re gonna die. When I was a door kicker in Iraq in 2002, we only used surefire, so that’s all that’s acceptable today in 2024”

[@realkoly]

⁠​⁠@@Tayoshisurefire

[@backontopmotowerks]

Olight is trash, it’s a good way to tell the guys at the range you want to avoid.

[@LFDNC]

There is a certain irony in someone getting a sponsor so they can FUND their addiction. 😂😂

[@DeskPop]

Find something you love and make it a job right?

[@LFDNC]

@@DeskPop I’m with you. If i could find someone to pay for my ammo I might change my religion and worship them. If they pay for my toys too, I’ll give them my firstborn.

[@DoraTheMFDestroya]

Hopefully, they will take this review and improve the product. It would be neat to see another company make reliable but budget options.

[@DeskPop]

I’m hoping they fix this issue fast. I reached out to every creator I know that also got sent these to verify it wasn’t just me before posting. It’s a repeatable issue unfortunately; if they fix it fast the optic would be a slam dunk.

[@KiloShock]

Yeah it's called holosun.

[@86steventura]

I’m guessing they never seen sage dynamics…that can ruin how optics sell lol. Not holding zero.

[@DeskPop]

I call times like these the real reviewer test; you’ll find out who’s honest and who’s not, and hopefully people let their future viewership reflect that.

[@michaell397]

Sage Dynamics rui9ns everything he touches like a 2 year old. He should never be allowed to touch quality equipment!

[@86steventura]

@@michaell397 well, I’ve purchased optics with battery drain issues and lose zero…I rather see what happens when tested and not waste my money. A lot of people already had issues with this optic so it’s a hard pass.

[@soulshot96]

​@@michaell397Stop coping. He only stress tests equipment that claims to be 'duty' grade/rated...and if equipment marketed for duty can't hold up to his testing, it's simply not quality equipment.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

@@michaell397 You ever heard of equipment being grunt-proof? Most of us have guns to use them, not to leave them pristine and secure in a locked safe. It's useful information to know what products can hold up to hard use vs the cheap crud we put on range toys.

[@jamiegassaway7688]

Monstrum is definitely worth the little bit of money they charge. Yeah, they may break, but they will send you a new one. It's happened to 2 out of the 10 things I've bought from them. And one of those things was the light level turret loosened slightly, they sent me a brand new one and now I have two. A screw fell out of another and they sent me a whole new 3x magnifier. Most of their stuff has both red and green too. They also have a bunch of cheap mounting hardware that we all know isn't top notch, but most of it has lasted over 2 years on my old gear. I will always recommend them just for the customer service alone, besides having decent stuff.

[@nullface_YT]

I don't use olight simply because they flooded every guntuber channel with freebies for reviews, but it is a fast way to help me cull my subs list

[@MiscGunnery]

Could you do the same rock test with a holosun? There's a big difference between dropping a rock on an object and dropping said object on a rock. Also, the zero part alone is enough to not want this item.

[@DeskPop]

Search Hunter Constantine’s video on it! His work didn’t get the recognition it deserved and he beat the optic way way worse than I did

[@waterhead1359]

​@@DeskPop drop the same rock on your holosun it will break

[@DeskPop]

@@waterhead1359 spoiler alert, the optic was broken when it couldn’t hold zero, the rock didn’t “break it” any further.

[@waterhead1359]

@@DeskPop you know what I'm talking about

[@Zermattquattro]

“You can beat your holosun all you want” then doesn’t proceed to use the same rock test as on the osight. Come on dude - like for like testing.

[@VitalArms]

Monstrum continues to get better each generation they put out. Not all of us need to spend $50k to equip all our rifles with optics. I got the 3-18x FFP on a pcp air rifle and absolutely love it. Also have the 1-6xlpvo on an AR for years and has had thousands of rounds of 5.56, tons of times thrown around in a truck on many trips and have never had to re zero it.

[@pacobell97]

Its true . I just got the Monstrum ruckus and it is a solid beefy optic with clear glass.

[@VitalArms]

@@pacobell97 not sure about the one you got, but if I could change one thing about my Monstrums would be the center reticle being too big of a dot. They’re great budget optics. I’d rather have stuff I’m down to use and abuse and still know I can trust it without going in debt for it 😂😂

[@RepuBlicOfChaD]

I have a couple votatu pmd504 red dots that i have used and beat the ever living ish out of. They still hold zero and perform at higher priced optics. Cheapest most reliable optic for around $130.

[@OneMoreStand]

So does your Holosun hold up to dropping rocks on it ?

[@EthanRavenWing]

I like how homie “zeros” lmao farthest thing from zero’d

[@RimfireAddicted70]

This guy broke a HUGE international law and I'm hoping he does not se prison time for this!! At 11:11 you see him "Double Dotting" which is a clear violation of the International War Crimes code 1.445.74b.84 Ver.3.0 Also known as the Double Dot Matrix Rule. This rule was agreed to by both NATO and Warsaw Pact parties after horrendous experiments in the 80's left countless soldiers on both sides permanently cross-eyed and insane trying to improve combat sights for troops. The damage was deemed so inhumane both sides agreed to never again allow such insidious trials. I hope they do not go after him and his vision and mental state remain intact.

[@madeconomist458]

While I do appreciate the honesty, I have to point out that you guys didn't use a torque wrench when installing the red dot and inadequate torque or inconsistent torque between the screws absolutely will cause the optic to lose zero when hit.

[@DeskPop]

No…

[@madeconomist458]

okay then

[@tombarnett937]

Also a good point; cheap screws may not hold torque/clamp-up as well as better ones. A torque check before & after with a cheap Fat Wrench would be a good way to confirm the screws are staying put vs. stretching or loosening for future reviews. Was there anything on the underside that might impede a solid fitment of the Olight sight? I've seen crummy RMR clones with 'gaskets' that prevent metal/metal contact, and thus you get bad zero shifts.

[@mitchculpepper738]

Is the mounting plate moving or is the emitter moving? Prices on Holosun have doubled since I bought my $139 407 and $179 507k! No issues with either one and I carry every day!

[@DeskPop]

There is no mounting plate, it’s a direct fit for my cut slide. You can also watch me whack it independent from the slide entirely and show it shifting on the green dot

[@titomon]

Your review just popped up on my feed and this is my first time watching a review from your channel. Love the hinest review! You now have one more subscriber! Keep it up desk pop!

[@DeskPop]

Thank you! I’m surprised, KZbin doesn’t like to show our stuff usually 😂 welcome aboard; we need as many people as we can get.

[@Taidaan]

Don't worry, Holosun can't hold zero after just reholstering. No impacts needed. My 507k didn't even make it to the first shot before I replaced it under warranty, and the replacement is now doing the same after 2 years.

[@michaell397]

Odd, I have several 407 and 507K's and shoot a LOT, Both 1911 and 2011's in 9mm and .45ACP. Never an issue. More than can be said for my much more expensive Lupy Deltapoint pro!

[@VitalArms]

Sounds like you don’t know how to set up and properly torque a red dot

[@Taidaan]

​@@VitalArms Cute. Care to explain why the reticle visibly moves and the optic rattles when not mounted to a firearm? Because my first one did both.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

Wild, I carried a 407 on my EDC pistol for nearly a year (upgraded to a DPP because 'Merica) and never had a zero shift. Even racking the gun off hard cover didn't make a difference. I have that same dot on my AR and it's still holding zero flawlessly. Only real dig I have on the optic is the glass is heavily blue tinted, which is a non-issue.

[@SmolKTN]

507C has been holding zero for 6 years. 507 Comp has been holding zero for 1 year on shadow 2 with 9lb spring. 407C same story for 5 years. 507K same story for 3 years. Torque your optics down properly. Sounds like a mounting issue. I went through 5 Vortex Razors, the battery terminal broke 3 times, the 4th wouldn't hold zero and the 5th one just stopped working after 300 rounds. Brand means nothing.

[@4MRRanch]

Honestly didn’t have issues with the green dot they sent me. I expected it to be laughable in quality but me and my buddy both were surprised in how decent the unit I had seemed. After seeing this I’m going to beat it up and will report back. Definitely concerning.

[@DeskPop]

Smack the side; also DM us man, we have a little group of creators I like to run stuff like this by to verify before I post a review that’s negative based off my small sample size. Would be sweet to add you in!

[@4MRRanch]

@@DeskPop will do!

[@zoopzoopzoopzoop]

Olight didn't drop the price to corner the market, they dropped the quality to corner themselves.

[@timoftheboat]

There are only a handful of optics than can handle a rock being smashed on them. The only one that comes to mind that is under $500 is the 509t. Zeroe shift is an issue, but no torquing of the screws, loctite, nor was a proper zero set. Informative evaluation but dubious execution.

[@DeskPop]

The 507 comp can handle this as well. All the cyclees can handle it. Definitely an RMR can handle it. I didn’t “smash” it, i dropped a fairly small rock from less than two feet. Proper torque for an optic is 10-15inch pounds which is quite literally hand tight; I’ve mounted hundreds of optics in my day, I’m very confident it was tightened properly.

[@timoftheboat]

@@DeskPop the test is subjective without controls in place to make testing repeatable. Proper torque, loctite, and a drop / smash test that is repeatable is how that is done. The review is fun to watch, but it’s subjective and your argument of having a tuned torque wrench of a hand bolsters that. I understand your argument, and understand having a tuned hand. I wrenched for a decade on carbon parts with titanium fasteners. End of the day humans are humans and we are the variable that needs to be removed. Also an rmr is a $500 optic.

[@DeskPop]

@@timoftheboat whatever makes you happy, go buy it and do the test yourself. I tested it effectively, you don’t need a “tuned” hand for 12-15 inch pounds. Especially when you’re removing and replacing and optic with another optic that’s had the exact same treatment and holds zero perfectly. My attempt to save you money is mute if you’re going to try to cope. Here’s the simple fact: I have mounted hundreds of dots by hand and with torque wrenches in the past year. 12-15 inch pounds is 1 ft/lb which with your experience you would know is extremely low; if anything I would have overtorqued the optic screws which wouldn’t result in the optic slipping. I put my 507 comp back on and torque it exactly the same way again, and It will continue to hold zero indefinitely as it has for the last 20,000 rounds of abuse this gun has already seen.

[@Hardestway]

This is why I believe this channel over everyone else

[@DeskPop]

And we love you because of your big strong arms 😤

[@poortac5568]

I am also curious how you torqued the screws. What inch pound setting did you use? Never mind, you just hand tightened with that crappy tool they include. I highly doubt you got proper torque with that tool. I might test and see if thats why mine didnt lose zero. Proper torque is a must. 🤷‍♂️

[@DeskPop]

Respectfully you’re making an ass out of yourself; we do this for a living and haven’t encountered a problem with any other dot tested. Absolutely foolish and asinine to assume us and everyone else who tests dots and firearms on a regular basis, most of us coming from gunsmithing as a background, with years of experience all simultaneously decided to not torque an optic to spec and All had it shift. This isn’t a “just me” issue. If you got one that holds zero you’re the outlier. I wack it completely independent from mounting screws and it still shifts, you can and have seen that in the video. For a comp. The 507 comp was also hand tightened to 18 inches pounds. I’ve installed optics to slides thousands of times.

[@poortac5568]

@@DeskPop Not trying to be disrespectful either, Im just trying to be objective. Im not a fan of Olight, but I see a lot of bashing (or praising from shills) without cause a lot on youtube. Its entirely possible yours are both lemons and mine is not. Or mine might lose zero the next time I shoot it 🤷‍♂️ Since you tightened it by hand, on video, (which Ive had multiple red dots lose zero from) I would want to remove that variable. Again, Im simply trying to determine if its a QC issue, user issue, design issue, etc. The optic obviously has issues, but my purpose as a reviewer is to help improve gear for our community, so they don’t waste their money. Diagnosing the issue will only help yours and my viewers. SOTAR videos are a good example of what I value in testing. If I appeared to be disrespectful, I apologize, I tend to have that affect on people in text/emails 😂 Have a great day 👍

[@DeskPop]

@@poortac5568 our DM’s are open man. I think this goes for all of us as reviewers when I tell you only 10% of the testing makes it on the camera.

[@poortac5568]

@@DeskPop that is the truth! 😂

[@THEJake829]

I was able to buy one of the test sights, definitely would only use it for competition where loss of functions isn't dangerous. But I wouldn't use it for any defensive purposes.

[@Eric-AC]

O-Light's Facebook group gad a mod, and guy that works for him comparing it to a Trijicon, dude didnt realize it, but his Trijicon was a counterfeit.

[@RedEyePergo]

Review the Swampfox Justice 2 !

[@politicalpolarbear]

What holster is that? huge optic cover. love the clear glass on the red dot, but hate everything else. :D

[@DeskPop]

Rapid force

[@Mechveteran011]

Great review man, I really appreciate the honesty. New subscriber earned and I rarely subscribe after a single video. Keep it up sir

[@DeskPop]

I appreciate that! More content coming!!!

[@thurn55]

First time viewer here. Would like to see you test a Trijicon or Holosun the same way just to see if they hold up as well.

[@Three60Crusader]

The trijicon would maybe on the Holosun

[@watermann8200]

Yeah shell out of pocket for a Trijicon RCR or Holosun 509T and smash them between 2 rocks lol...

[@christopherloos9342]

@@watermann8200theoretically according to what deskpop is saying, they should hold up to the abuse. Why is it fair to show the complete utter abuse of a sub 200$ optic vs the abuse on an 800$ optic

[@smartfella7914]

@@watermann8200You guys are acting like he hulk smashed a meteor onto it like it wasn’t just a rock getting dropped on it lmfaooo

[@thelastminuteman7513]

I got put on to Monstrum from 704 Tactical and I agree they have good optics, flashlights, and mounts for the price either enthusiasts who have dozens of firearms and can't afford to put an EOtech, Trijicon or Surefire on every single one or people who flat out can barely afford a firearm in the first place. Also I have to shout out Tacticon I have a few of their products as well and I have to say it takes balls to put your name and face on your products. With other faceless companies if they get a bad rep they can easily rebrand and most won't notice but when you make yourself the brand you have to stand by your product or you'll never be able to work innthe industry again.

[@michaelvaliquette9823]

Is the adjustment knob just drifting with shock? Some a spring loaded and have a memory type click to them and want to click back

[@257Xspellz]

I reached out to Olight and they said they were aware some people were saying the sight wasn't holding zero. They made some internal changes and say the optic shouldn't lose zero anymore. Maybe another test with a new one in the future??

[@DeskPop]

@@257Xspellz they publicly criticized me for this review and claimed my slide and screws were the issue; they only admitted it had a problem after several other reviewers encountered the same issues. So after defaming my character instead of admitting they had issues with their product i’ve decided to not test their products in the future.

[@257Xspellz]

@@DeskPop I don't blame you. With that in mind, I'll no longer consider them for an optic.

[@DeskPop]

@@257Xspellz similar price point; Swampfox Justice II has been awesome and they’re US based customer service replaced one when I broke it almost immediately- and I haven’t even done a review on it

[@TweakRacer]

5:44 Flinch that’s good enough for Instagram 😂

[@12ealDealOfficial]

I have a couple, well, three olights. They run well. Very interested in the optic. My Burris is perfectly acceptable but has weird dimming issues in the range I frequent. I also have to remove and rezero for battery changes, and I don't get shake awake, so you got to flip the switch if you're in any kind of situation that even the most remote chances exist for "unplanned use."

[@keyskulls1973]

Curious to what slide and comp are you running on the Dagger??

[@Fixxit65]

Did you properly torque that?

[@4jack8mama]

Definitely did not. You could even see that the screw wasn't tight when he removed the first sight.

[@S1deshowRob]

If you wanna spend under $199 or less on a dot the holosun 407c is still the way to go it seems. Mine’s taken a hell of a beating being on my EDC at my construction job and it’s still going strong

[@sfoti6973]

After my first and only, very disappointing Olight experience with one of their weapon lights, I've honestly avoided them since. Streamlight for flashlights and Holosun for optics are my go-to's and haven't let me down.

[@DesertTactical]

Best video so far on the osight. "We are gonna take this optic and set it to the side" *tosses optic on the ground. Lol. Got a good laugh

[@chris993361]

I have really been enjoying Gowutar red dots that are available on Amazon. I have not really abused mine however I started buying them after I saw officer Greg on KZbin review and abuse the crap out of one. Just thought I would throw that out there in case you want to review it as they are even less expensive than the olight. I have tried a couple of their models ranging from 100 to $170 and I'm pretty happy so far.

[@TdMe99]

So like what slide and comp you rocking? Looks dope

[@DeskPop]

Zaffiri slide, radian ramjet barrel/comp

[@34thOvercastDivision]

I’m just happy to see upload notifications again.

[@KenneMCL]

4:55 can someone explain why he's disappointed he has to zero the optic? I dont think ive had an optic i havent had to zero. Also what is this zero method? Thanks

[@DeskPop]

eEvery optic worth buying now comes very close to zeroed or zeroed from the factory. it’s expected that I could shoot and just be a few clicks off, not have the dot a mile off target. The zeroing method I used here is just slaving the dot to irons; it’s possibly the most common way to test if a pistol reticle is moving because you have a fixed point of reference you can always return to.

[@KenneMCL]

@@DeskPop wow very cool! I'm gonna try that trick with my new holoson I just put on my p365! Thanks

[@natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571]

I initially gave my a 5 star review, but, the shake awake feature doesn't work anymore after one range trip. Didn't have trouble with zero, but it was on a competition 22lr pistol and I didn't beat it with a magazine so..... not a fair review. Going to mount it on my 9mm and see if I can get it to lose zero too now.

[@DeskPop]

yea man, I really wanted it to be good, unfortunately the QC seems to be very very bad or non-existent

[@nighthawkron]

I learned my lesson with Olight and Monstrum, poor quality control and no support.whennyou do have an issue. I can't in good faith recommend either of them.

[@DeskPop]

My understanding is that monstrum is under a newer ownership as of recent, if you have a bad product from the past I’d reach out again and see if they help you. Would actually be curious to know since obviously we only see support from the “influencer” side even when I try to be anonymous

[@mikehawkswollen5819]

To be fair, wouldn't any red dot break after a boulder is dropped in it??

[@DeskPop]

See hunter Constantine’s video on the 507 comp. Also that’s hardly a boulder; maybe 5-7lbs

[@TTime685]

​@@DeskPopthe rock you had looked to be about 10+ lbs lol.. Put it on a scale for us

[@chevrofreak]

I'm not sure what size screws you use for that RMR cut on your slide, but my plate used #4-40 screws that are so tiny they dont fill the holes in the sight at all, but they were the perfect size that a piece of PTFE 3D printer Bowden tube cut to the depth of the screw hole in the sight made a very snug fit and my Osight hasn't moved since.

[@DeskPop]

The site wasn’t moving; the dot inside was moving, it was torqued down. The smack test shown later shows the dot moving inside the housing

[@chevrofreak]

@@DeskPop yet it didn't move on the fixed mount on that 44mag Desert Eagle?

[@DeskPop]

@@chevrofreak I didn’t hit the optic on the .44 and the rail doesn’t move, it literally had zero felt recoil impulse. Did you just not finish the video? I literally show you that it’s tight, also due to the way my slide is cut, it can’t move side to side because the screw holes AND front posts interface with the dot. The video starts out positive because I want it to be great; I do this for a living I think I know how to mount a dot…

[@chevrofreak]

@@DeskPop you say that, but if it were properly mounted there would be, at a minimum, some Vibra-Tite VC-3 on the screws, and a known quantity of torque applied, not just an ugga dugga.

[@DeskPop]

@@chevrofreak I’ve installed hundreds of red dots. 15-20 inches pounds is literally hand tight; go buy a dot from them if you’re so convinced I’m wrong. I don’t care, I’ve even got a link I could give you that gives me money from your purchase: www.olightstore.com/osight-3-moa-with-charging-cover Crazy my 507 comp hasn’t shifted zero at all from the exact same screws and tightening 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@braxtonnelson7976]

To be fair did you loctite the screws? Seems like you just chucked it on there. Not defending olight by anymeans lol

[@DeskPop]

I used the same mounting screws that have held my 507 comp on for ten thousand rounds. They’re loctited and once again holding my holosun back in place.

[@lordbunny2416]

If you don't mind saying, what holster are you using?? Love the drop dead honest review though!! I subbed cuz of the honesty and truth from you!!

[@DeskPop]

Alien gear rapid force holster!

[@macross40]

Did anyone wait the required 24 hours of letting the loctite seat before test firing ? That's pretty much why most of my chairs otis hold zero even with hand impacts to the uptick. Having said that, i haven't treated my osight yet, but will soon find out in about a week, and report back. But i will do the required 24 hour waiting period

[@lajosbakk3317]

Which video you have your red dot test? Cant fined it.

[@Joinordie718]

I want to see you do an exact duplicate review on one of your Monstrum optics down to you dropping a large rock 🪨 on it then we can be real just saying 👍

[@DeskPop]

“One of your monstrum optics” Do you know how being paid to shill works? I don’t own monstrum or any part of monstrum. Also, I did try to destroy their optic. Spoiler alert, it didn’t break from a magazine tap or a rock smack.

[@Joinordie718]

@@DeskPop let’s see the video you have one? I did not say you owned Monstrum but you did say they were your sponsor? Just saying sir. Make a video if you don’t have one I would watch it sir. Thanks 👍

[@callsign_koschei]

The osight is kind of a try your luck product, some people habe had serious problems with the olight osight, but I haven't, maybe im just lucky, or maybe I just dont beat the crap out of my gear enough, but my osight is mounted on my AR and seems to work fine for me, that being said, for some reason the Green dot version seems to have much much better luck at keeping zero and just being useable and abuseable in general, I really dont know, but id say if you have problems with it, tell olight, if your going to pay $200 on an optic and it doesnt work, at least use the warranty they give you

[@juggernautdriveSS]

Sightmark is the superior bang for your buck sights. Should do a review on theres. Havent had an issue with either of my sightmark reflex optics

[@jkell2A]

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[@DeskPop]

I just posted it yellow; because KZbin no like us anyways

[@zhadowsun]

Amazing review. Do you have a dot sight similar you recommend as an alternative?

[@DeskPop]

Yep! The Holosun 507 comp I run obviously; for a similar price point the cyclee optics have been solid for everyone I know thats tested them. Or the Gideon Omega!

[@michaelvee7315]

Hey man you guys should do a video on the CYELEE PRO series of optics. I run Holosun on my pistols and feel confident that i can rely on them, but really curious about the Cyelee brand. It seems they could be the next HOLOSUN. QC on them makes it worthy of becoming a solid brand.

[@DeskPop]

Cyclee seems good and I have a few of their dots on hand, I can get a few more and do a test!

[@jcows12]

I have one on an m&p shield (over a year) and it seems fine so far, granted I'm pretty gentle on stuff.

[@pj4433]

Have you dropped a rock like that on any other sight? First time I’ve ever seen that ‘test’

[@DeskPop]

The rock isn’t what broke the sight. And no, that was much more mild than my other tests.

[@pj4433]

@@DeskPop no, I saw wandering zero. It isn’t marketed as a duty sight I don’t think so not sure the benefit of dropping rocks but please do the same test on an rmr because now I’m curious . Mine has not arrived yet I’m going to be pissed if it’s the same zero issues. It’s going on a competition shotgun so I’ll soon find out. If so I’ll just send it back. There are exactly two reviews of this that trash it, all others positive so I’m not sure if I’d looked first for reviews if it would have put me off buying hell I’d probably have taken a gamble anyway just on price and features. But I will report back when it arrives. it released later here so only just been able to order.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

@@pj4433 Have you received your optic yet, and if so, how is it holding up? As far as positive vs negative reviews go... unfortunately, there's more incentive for channels to shill substandard products than to be honest and upfront. When you get paid to display the product and also get a kickback for every unit purchased using your code, there's heavy financial incentive to review the product in a favorable light.

[@dashwerks]

No torque wrench? I dont trust good and tight

[@DeskPop]

Torque specs are 12-15 inch pounds on pistol optics… that’s 1ft-lbs btw… I definitely torqued it down fine.

[@4jack8mama]

Weird that the optic was loose after not properly torquing it. The screw was clearly loose when he removed the sight from the first gun. This may or may not be the problem, but the test procedure was flawed from the start. I've done system testing for military optics for years and there is always a clear procedure for installing optics to the host weapon.

[@DeskPop]

Foolish and bullshit response. If you “test for the military” you’re a failure; because you’d know better than to comment some stupid line like this.

[@4jack8mama]

@DeskPop well, you certainly presented some good evidence. Thanks for your input. Everyone can watch and see that it's loose. Thats just poor test procedure. Any quality engineers out there want to chime in? I doubt they would support this cavalier approach to testing.

[@DeskPop]

@@4jack8mama everyone here knows I’ve built more guns than anyone; so no, no one’s gonna back you up.

[@4jack8mama]

Wow, I just realized you're the actual creator. Nice way to respond to your viewers. Name calling and knee jerk response with no substance.

[@DeskPop]

@@4jack8mama womp womp, viewer commented something disrespectful and is now mad that he got put in his place. This isn’t a service business, I am a guy who makes great content and if you’re rude I don’t have to be nice back.

[@Lynxdefense]

Good run down. Good to see honesty out of optics reviewers. These chinese optics are so prevalent that it's getting harder and harder to see through the weeds.

[@tatuhsalad608]

What holster are you running?

[@DeskPop]

@@tatuhsalad608 alien gear rapid force

[@jasonsierchio1167]

What holster are you rocking?

[@DeskPop]

Alien gear rapid force

[@FlakJacketActual]

I only have one pistol optic…. Still trying to get use to them so don’t want to go all in until I am confident…. But I use a Tacticon predator v4 and it’s been crazy good

[@mdspaghetti4949]

Is this dot getting cheaper as of tomorrow after 8pm? Anyone else seeing their site, that looks like a sale starts. Maybe i pick up a few and test for fun

[@Channinggilbert]

Yo bro it’s Channing from youth group you said your channel was small😂

[@DeskPop]

We’re super small

[@michaelmendoza1818]

You were quick on this one lol, just saw the meme about being sorry to inform you of this. It being rechargeable was the coolest part. I will put it out there that there should be a prism pistol sight with shake awake and rechargeable.

[@epicfortnitekid8536]

Prism sight on an optic that far away from your face is kinda wild

[@epicfortnitekid8536]

On a gun*

[@conviction_art]

I really wanted to like monstrum as a budget option for range guns, but ive tried their prism optics, scope mounts, risers, and rail mounted lights, and everything failed almost immediately. It was all chinesium garbage. I really gave them every chance, but i won't use any of their products unless there is a total quality revamp.

[@JohnSmith-nh9vr]

Clearly we can see that Holosun is an Olight Osight made in the same factory in China. Competition of rebranding Chinese stuff is always good.

[@DeskPop]

@@JohnSmith-nh9vr it’s not even close..

[@Larry-ds6ib]

do you have video(s) can do the same rock drop test on Trijicon?

[@tremendousmoss]

what kind of holster are you using for that daggar?

[@DeskPop]

Rapid force G17 holster for x300 turbo

[@tremendousmoss]

@@DeskPop Thanks! Does it accommodate suppressor height sights?

[@FreedomYak]

The new Otrash! Thanks for breaking yours so I don’t have to wonder if it’s worth trying. Let’s see if they put out an O2 that’s not trash and is still under $200.

[@frope01]

I have a bunch of olights that I like , and are solid units so I’m not a hater just bashing them. With that being said I’m not at all surprised the dots don’t hold zero. I have a few lights with lasers that don’t hold zero either. I understand they aren’t offering it as duty rated but those small strikes with a magazine should have no effect. I’ll pass.

[@DeskPop]

Agreed; to me not holding zero after a drop is always a deal breaker, and tbh I thought it was a thing of the past with how standard it it for optics to hold zero now

[@Jonj57]

I have a monstrum banshee 1-4x LPVO on my 10/22 and a buddies AR15. They both look great and hold zero and were 75 each on amazon. Cannot be beat for range & ranch guns.

[@russoft]

I've dropped by CCW pistols on numerous occasions. If I switch from irons, the optic has to survive.

[@VitalArms]

How is that a thing? I’ve never once dropped a gun let alone the one I have on me 24/7

[@masondelpino8118]

I'll stick with my 508T for now (maybe I'll wait until they come out with a closed emitter optic (that holds a zero, of course) before trying it out.

[@5jjt]

Honestly, would Monstrum be unhappy with you if you gave Olight a good review if it had performed well?

[@DeskPop]

Monstrum wouldn’t care; they don’t pick the video I throw them in. This felt like a fitting video since it didn’t perform well.

[@levimaliwauki8]

You really do get what you pay for... like supporting our boys with your money!! If you like their content, you better pay and contribute your hard earned dinero to our hard working and extremely handsome team. Force your friends to watch them, and spread the word. These are the real boys fr fr

[@DeskPop]

Ong we are so poor; I couldn’t even afford a slab on concrete to drop the optic in

[@RTTGunsGear]

Props for being the only honest one to review this.

[@DeskPop]

Fatty commissions and free stuff doesn’t make a company improve their products. I’m hoping they improve and I can try again with a better outcome

[@RTTGunsGear]

@DeskPop Olight has a tedancy to drop reviewers rather than improve their products. Best of luck to you though. I'm not at all a fan of Olight products or the company. But honesty in reviews holds far more weight in my book. Too many people in the case of this Osight and a plethora of other products every year from multiple manufacturers, are just salesmen when the NDA is released and the product launch happens. So for what it's worth. Respect to you for not being one of them. That type of honesty is what I've always built my channel around.

[@tombarnett937]

@@RTTGunsGear "We asked for a review of our budget optic, and you hit it with a rock until it broke." Just saying, from their perspective it /might/ not seem like a good-faith effort.

[@CivilianTactical]

@@RTTGunsGear Calling all other creators who had no issues with their optic “Dishonest” is a massive L. Good on @Deskpop for showing what happened, we are happy he did. People who tested their optics (including 2 6ft drop tests into cement.) with no shift are still being honest. They just had a different result. Olight clearly had a QC issue which means there was a bad apple here. RTT, if you ever want to talk, my line is open. I can get your answers before you make assumptions.

[@jamespwnsalll]

Great review. Can you do similar tests on the Gideon series of dots next?

[@ethanmitchell3439]

Would like to see a more scientific test to see if it is shifting in the slide cut. I don’t think you mentioned it moving up or down, just to one side or the other. Which could indicate it is shifting around on the slide. Witness marking on the side and slide would help visualize that if it was that. Maybe also witness marking the turrets to see if they are moving at all, though that is probably unlikely. I realize that you or someone else may have already done this or considered it so feel free to ignore me. Just some things I would probably add to the testing to visually demonstrate what is and isn’t happening.

[@DeskPop]

Turrets were witness marked. I also smacked it completely independently from the mount to verify the shift wasn’t slide related. I’m really wondering if you guys just don’t watch the video before commenting…

[@ethanmitchell3439]

@@DeskPop I did watch it all. Just wondered if you did anything to verify that it wasn’t moving on the slide aside from checking to see if you could twist it back and forth with your hand.

[@DeskPop]

@@ethanmitchell3439 if you watched it then you saw me smack the green one completely detached from the slide to verify the zero shift was inside the unit and not a result of my slide that’s had a holosun on it holding zero for over 10,000 rounds

[@roquri]

Thank you for the review. Was going to buy one tonight when they released. I'll be putting my money towards something else.

[@MrJoshcc600]

I bet that holosun breaks under that rock sandwich too. That's not ever happening irl

[@DeskPop]

@@MrJoshcc600 the problem was more the optic not holding zero at all. but also this optics taken more abuse than that…

[@pawl0c]

What gun/gun + mods is that?

[@jordanfurman1997]

“Uh, it Tastes like ChYnA” HacHa, You Sir, Just Earned a New Subscriber!💯‼️🤠👍🏼

[@heywoodjablome2018]

While I think the sight is too big for me their balder series light is brighter than my tlr7 and i can recharge it. All while being 20 bucks cheaper.

[@atomicsmith]

Why would you want to carry around a bulky specialized charging cap, when a spare 2032 is tiny and weighs less than a gram? If this battery goes down, and you don’t have the cap you’re just SOL.

[@9thGenerationCajun]

Greeeeeat i just ordered one of these paper weights a hour ago 😮

[@jammbbs1688]

I love monstrum optics cuz they work well

[@83nav]

Thanks for saving my money on this sight, would´ve been my first.

[@DeskPop]

Go with a holosun for a few extra $, well worth it.

[@83nav]

@@DeskPop Oh, since watching your video, I´m really considering a Holosun for my CZ Shadow 2 OR in the future, but due to local restrictions I´m probably staying at irons till I have my second and then non OR but probably ordonnance pistol (again due to local restrictions). And by the way -> subbed and binge watching your vids since I love the humor. 😘 Can´t only watch the big gun tubers anymore, since I´m missing too much good content. 😅 And if you´re courious I´ve found you searching for presumabely honest Osight reviews. Enough text and singing off with slightly drunk greetings from Germany. 😅😅😅😅

[@TheSecretSantaa]

Olight will never have a effect on actual quality gun parts and make them lower prices. Ever 🤣

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

What comp is that?

[@DeskPop]

Radian Ramjet; is very nice I very recommend

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

@@DeskPop 😎 🤝 😎

[@reapercarl5047]

Im curious if they can put the battery tech in the holoson