I'm basing my happiness for the day on whether or not the pistols I like function during this test.
@thunderring8056 Жыл бұрын
Unironically same.
@jonathanrichwine1996 Жыл бұрын
M&P gang!
@Murphy82nd Жыл бұрын
Truth.
@F_lippy Жыл бұрын
How'd it go for you?
@myles7686 Жыл бұрын
Soo you happy or depressed today?
@phantomspaceman Жыл бұрын
It was interesting to see the Desert Eagle do better in the mud test than it usually does with normal operation.
@GarandThumb Жыл бұрын
bro we had no idea how it did so well
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
It's built for the holy land desert environments so the mud probably helped lubricate it
@hecku Жыл бұрын
Probably because of the different action from the other handguns. I'm curious how the Beretta PX4 Storm would have performed since it has a rotating barrel system.
@someguy5180 Жыл бұрын
Useful consumer advice for Desert Eagle owners - If it's not working, throw it in the mud and step on it!!!
@PoorPeazant Жыл бұрын
@@GarandThumb only gas op pistol in the lot
@christopherduthu2452 Жыл бұрын
As someone who carries an M&P, I’m pleased to see its performance in the ice and mud tests, especially so when I live in Arizona where neither condition will be an issue
@johnnyh3653 Жыл бұрын
Flagstaff and the monsoon season are looking for you!😬
@Bigbossman12624 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t rain in Arizona?
@johnnyh3653 Жыл бұрын
@@Bigbossman12624 It rained last night in the Phoenix metro area. I snowed up north.
@kevinfitzsimmons1258 Жыл бұрын
You say that but I've taken classes here where it went from 100 to a hailstorm multiple times throughout the day.
@ItsOnlyGenjutsu Жыл бұрын
"Me sittin' on my M&P high horse in Arizona. Oh, what? you don't know about the M&P? Well, let me tell you... winner of the Ice & Mud Challangers Cup also know as the I&MCC. And, I've been carrying it WAY before Garand Thumb even tested it! I know a good gun when I see one." "Isn't Arizona all sand and rock?" "WELL, if you recall I said it was a good gun. Not a good gun for my specific terrain..." Love it! I would like to see a sand test from it though. That way, whether im in the swamps down here in Oregon, the deserts here in Oregon, hiking the forests here in Oregon, or doing shit on the icy mountains during the winter here in Oregon. That I'm covered lol.
@livefreeprintguns Жыл бұрын
There's a reason why I've had my M&P as a EDC for about 8 years now, as it literally hasn't failed on me once no matter what ammo I run through it... but the ice and mud tests just solidifies how amazing that gun is even more.
@ogoshikoshi1527 Жыл бұрын
May I ask which model u carry?
@BCM1959 Жыл бұрын
Same question
@livefreeprintguns Жыл бұрын
@@ogoshikoshi1527 M&P .40c
@livefreeprintguns Жыл бұрын
@@BCM1959 M&P .40c
@BCM1959 Жыл бұрын
@@livefreeprintguns ty
@JOBENWING Жыл бұрын
Just a little advice. Don’t drop you gun in the middle of a fight. And if you DO drop it, don’t drop it in a mud puddle. And IF you you do drop it in a mud puddle by accident , don’t step on it with all of your body weight. And if you do happen to do all of those things in the middle of a gun fight, then don’t scoop an extra pile of mud on top in between dodging bullets. If you follow all of these steps, then mostly any of these guns will serve you well.
@SilentCanary Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment lol
@user-ov1ep5rf2l Жыл бұрын
Well you could plausibly fall with gun, put all your weight on it and scoop some mud up while picking it back up in a panic
@xj4351 Жыл бұрын
Except the Desert Eagle of course.
@Mreticket1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed lol😂
@calehandel126 Жыл бұрын
So let me guess, your gun failed this test?
@AlexLee-dc2vb Жыл бұрын
as an Elbonian mud farmer I'm glad to see my country represented in this test
@cfltitan Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the episode of family guy where they moved to the south and the one kid says “I gotta go help my dad bring in the mud harvest”. 😂
@avishai7830 Жыл бұрын
Glory to Elbonia!
@KGBBooks Жыл бұрын
ELBONIA ÜBER ALLES
@juliancuevas6728 Жыл бұрын
For Elbonia!!!
@genxhippy9999 Жыл бұрын
I'm also a Mudd farmer. Well it's 5% Mudd. 95% horse shit.
@whombatwhacker9922 Жыл бұрын
I've carried an M&P for years now and have close to 10k rounds through mine without a single failure. I am definitely going to be basing my personality around the fact that I've chosen correctly based on this testing.
@9770G Жыл бұрын
Lol if u think Mike’s torture tests hold any weight u are a fool. This tests are sooo inconsistent. If u want real torture tests that are done the right way look at MAC’s torture tests of handguns. Those tests are done the right way. And the Glock out performed the Sigs and and M&P’s in his sand/dirt/mud/water test.
@GodGunsGills Жыл бұрын
I have M&Ps with over 15k rounds, with no issues! My hellcat has 8k
@invisisense5464 Жыл бұрын
@@GodGunsGills 8k miles?
@airmanOracle Жыл бұрын
W
@BarnesWelding0609 Жыл бұрын
Amen! Love my M&P shield!
@BagpipekilR9 ай бұрын
M&P line is such a beast. Won the ice test, won the mud test. Thank you SW for these pistols, unbeatable when failure isnt an option. Truely "Military & Police". I absolutely love mine in both compact and fullsize 😎 now we just need more aftermarket for the shield 45 2.0...... 🙏
@TheMike31b3 ай бұрын
not once, twice! there was a water, sand and mud test on another channel and it ran
@omg.2tsx_alex5932 ай бұрын
Watch Micah’s video of him destroying the M&P, they run like absolute beasts
@Apachefog Жыл бұрын
I dont understand how garand thumb wasn't nominated in the most entertaining content creator category of the gundies, he's been killing it lately.
@DustinSilva Жыл бұрын
a million times better than armed clickbaiter
@flonpdinglechalk7920 Жыл бұрын
Because youtube doesnt like guns
@tjnor23 Жыл бұрын
Good question he has the most subs by a long shot I think
@FastSlothVideos Жыл бұрын
Who actually won thay award?
@Apachefog Жыл бұрын
@@FastSlothVideos voting is still going
@istepp_96 Жыл бұрын
As a M18 owner, I'm glad to see that it did as well as it did. And also that it didn't go off being dropped and stepped on multiple times 😅
@1hundredwattwarlock142 Жыл бұрын
GANG GANG
@Highgear145 Жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna make people mad unfortunately
@natem9890 Жыл бұрын
@@Highgear145 never understood how people get mad abt their guns not performing well in tests like these😂😂. Only get mad if your gun failed the first test- the 2nd test will never happen to 99.9% ofnpeople
@sammyg4806 Жыл бұрын
The Glock, P320 and MP are all duty guns. They are reliable.
@kjmllcgaming7533 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know that until now😳 this thing isn’t drop safe?😂😂😂
@josephogden4870 Жыл бұрын
I bought an M&P as my first handgun when I turned 21 based largely off of price and availability at my local stores. I'm really happy to see that my choice has held up so far.
@FrankieJames7 Жыл бұрын
Don't they shoot out of battery though?
@Quintara2001 Жыл бұрын
@@FrankieJames7 i had my M&P shield since like 2013, so first generation. It never shot out of battery, although steel rounds didn't cycle through it, and the slide release is trash.
@mrsmith9350 Жыл бұрын
@@Quintara2001 its not designed as a slide release, its a slide stop, m&p designed to run slide
@toreyweaver9708 Жыл бұрын
Literally same. My first pistol owned and still a great gun
@JoeLecroix Жыл бұрын
Same, I bought a Beretta shortly after. Guess I’ll keep both!
@jdawgH Жыл бұрын
As a sig owner i was stoked to see the m18 perform as well as it did. Makes me feel way better about my duty and carry pistols
@Aquablue6211 ай бұрын
Same here
@insanereindeer408111 ай бұрын
As a DE owner, I'm happy to see it still doesn't care. Obviously not a carry gun, but still a great engineering marvel of a gun.
@kevinbag18 ай бұрын
I carry the civilian m17 and it goes strong, but the mil version is straight doody
@usmcvet03138 ай бұрын
Just don't drop it... Jk 🙃
@rudrashakti1085 ай бұрын
@@usmcvet0313that joke got old about five years ago when that issue was fixed. Another Glock f@gboi…
@Michelino_M5 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd watch a video of you guys cleaning some of the guns. Maybe describe where the mud got into the most, tell some stories in the meantime, you know, the good stuff you guys do. Long format video for sure, but I'm willing to guess other people would watch it too.
@samuel61762 Жыл бұрын
I'm on board with this.
@firstnamelastname6216 Жыл бұрын
Yep, same.
@Brian.9 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@potatosordfighter666 Жыл бұрын
Actually though. Because this would help tell why the Desert Eagle is the best EDC, though from what I've heard, only in .50AE.
@pablo4yu Жыл бұрын
… gun cleaning podcast
@fmrscout33 Жыл бұрын
Carried the M&P .40 while working as a federal contractor for about 8 years. Never had a malfunction. Super underrated weapon.
@DoggosGames Жыл бұрын
Looked like you said MP40
@Nipplehook Жыл бұрын
Carried m&P40 for 6 years as well, zero problems, very accurate and reliable.
@fixxer3859 Жыл бұрын
Just got a M&P .40 3 days ago. Looking forward to getting some rounds through it at the range.
@toddevannn Жыл бұрын
Triple Canopy?
@Dylan-zn2vy Жыл бұрын
Fed
@achirdo Жыл бұрын
Adding the guys to the channel has really stepped it up a notch. Their value can not be understated.
@GeauxRussGeaux Жыл бұрын
Actually it can be understated. Just don’t mention it. It cannot be OVERstated.
@dustbustr91 Жыл бұрын
@Steve Delaney i like the old presentation manner as well , but i prefer this objective data. back then when comparing stuff he was often too afraid to say which was better. and gave wish wash conclusions.
@lacyandlane Жыл бұрын
@Steve Delaney he still has info videos
@ccsargent Жыл бұрын
Thank Charlie.
@Disruptive088 Жыл бұрын
Charles is by far my favorite addition to GarandThumb. 😂
@RoyalFizzbin Жыл бұрын
“Hentai heaven”
@gweny2494 Жыл бұрын
My guess for why the Deagle did so well was because it practically cleaned itself of debris after firing off a shot or two.
@Snappy_krackle Жыл бұрын
For those who don’t remember, the M&P 2.0 was also the all-star of the frozen handgun test.
@RemedyTalon Жыл бұрын
Well.. he said that in the video
@stupiditypissesmeoff330 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know, he didn’t say that in the video 5 times wish he woulda
@xavierid Жыл бұрын
Actually the SIG was the one who did it first on the frozen test but for some reason they only talk M&P.
@tommygunstudios Жыл бұрын
@@xavierid it's because fuck SIG :)
@nated3663 Жыл бұрын
I carry an M&P and feel like this basically just validated all of my life’s choices. Thank you Mike J. The Jordan of Pewtubers for this validation
@jg-master6684 Жыл бұрын
I initially went with an M&P due to ergonomics. I really wanted a Glock, but it just didn’t feel the best. Smith & Wesson is rarely talked about or pushed by influencers from what I see on social media, it was always Glock and now Sig, but I think S&W manufactures a great product and they stand behind it. Even after cleaning and oiling regularly, my slide developed a rust spot. I contacted S&W and they sent me a new slide. Easy process to return the old one and receive the new, all within 10 days (probably less than 10-it’s been several years) Love my M&P.
@pablo4yu Жыл бұрын
Bro ive ran thru my beretta px4 like ur highschool girlfriend and its STILL CHUCKIN, I’ve literally never heard anyone talk about it… u think u have it bad lmaoo
@thebenior Жыл бұрын
@@pablo4yu Nothing wrong with the PX4; they just came out well after the US LE market had started shifting towards striker-fire pistols.
@BadShot10 Жыл бұрын
I've had M&P barrel lugs shear off and lock up a loaded gun. They aren't made the best.
@brazil3207 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Rules! read full post, not just some the bbt (bigbang theory) is a manmade construct. How insane the chances must be for mill's of plants and animals to magically mutate over ludicrous spans of time. We should find missing links. However we dont, we only find Fully Formed animals. If animals could evolve into totally new animals, there should be a chance we find missing links. ONLY THE SIMPLEST LIFE FORMS SHOULD BE ABLE TO EVOLVE INTO EXISTENCE. GENETIC ENTROPY WILL UNDO WHATEVER BENEFITS THE ORGANISM MUTATED, FASTER THAN THE ORGANISM WILL MUTATE BENEFICAL TRAITS. EVEN THEN, THE CHANCES OF ANY ORGANISM MUTATING A BENEFICIAL TRAIT ARE NEXT TO NONE. HOW MUCH MORE CRAZY IS EVOLUTION, WHEN APPLIED TO MILLIONS OF PLANTS N ANIMALS?? FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.... DEBUNKING BIGBANG: if the bigbang was real the 2nd planet's orbit would be normal and sat turns ring particles should've moved too fast for ANY gravity to pull them towards the planet. And thats not even taking into account the bigbangs hot temprature which shoulda vaporized anything. also there is too little antimatter in universe. if bigbang was real 99.999999999999999999999% of our universe should Not exist because antimatter destroys matter when it make contact with matter. the bang wouldve made much of it touch matter. so we see far less stars n stuff bc the so called bigbang wouldve destroyed nearly all of it. . READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY!! ----> this should prove that Jesus is Real: JESUS CHRIST will Not make you take any mark, and He will punish the tyrannical ANTI Christ. The ANTI Christ will get a terrible wound, but cure himself to reinforce his deception to decieve the non-Christians and the lukewarm Christians. (look up lukewarm Christians on Christian websites and/or the Bible.) the AC will be world famous and very popular. he will make people take a mark on r hand or forhead. there will be a severe punishment for not taking it. The ANTI-Christ is a control freak, the opposite of Jesus Christ. However, this AC will act all nice and cool for 3 years and 6 months, and then he will make a tyrannical dystopia. for another 3 years 6 months. Jesus uses His power for GOOD, NOT EVIL. This is BIBLE PROPHECY. Dont trust the false god, his goal is to get people into the lake of fire. he will go there too, despite all the FALSE MIRACLES HE WILL DO! Repent of your sins to Jesus Christ before its too late, you could die today!
@brazil3207 Жыл бұрын
🇺🇦+✝️ = better ukra
@garrettbarbosa4982 Жыл бұрын
I truly love you guys! Turned my tv off 6 years ago when my wife died miss my wife terribly miss lots of my 911 firefighter brothers from our battle at the WTC but because of you guys I don’t miss my tv you guys rule and bless you for your service boys and the PDP got robbed it was still in the battle guys!
@splodiedude2391 Жыл бұрын
Man, I have never been happier about choosing the M&P for my home defense and carry needs than watching it dab on everything else in two extreme tests. I am of course going to bring this up every time someone argues because freezing muddy conditions are super common in the suburbs of Virginia. Thank you for allowing me to base my entire carry identity around these tests.
@jeremyread261 Жыл бұрын
It and the Sig are pretty much equal but yes
@notalanrogers3173 Жыл бұрын
The M&P has really turned things around on social media, for some reason. A few months ago they were for poors. It's pretty interesting how one dude on social media can dictate what guns do and don't work.
@ez56789 Жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Read sigs not even close you goon
@aaronmcclure1340 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyread261 flawless run of the M&P and 3 out of battery is not "pretty much equal"
@jondeer4201 Жыл бұрын
Sig is for goobers and non Jesus pilled people.
@NonyaDamnbusiness Жыл бұрын
Mika: "How can we piss off the firearms industry today?" [Mike sees Charley outside laughing and playing in the mud] Mike: "I have an idea..."
@spencerheffelfinger782 Жыл бұрын
That would have made a great intro video.
@jacobkean03 Жыл бұрын
The mud challenge had Charley’s name written all over it.
@topranking8389 Жыл бұрын
😂
@christianlogwood679 Жыл бұрын
I would love to take Charlie to a bar and let him go.
@michaelwalsh34748 ай бұрын
🤣
@codywalz8555 Жыл бұрын
“You merely adopted the mud. I was born in it. Molded by it.” - 1911
@deanhinson4095 Жыл бұрын
1911s are garbage...
@codywalz8555 Жыл бұрын
@@deanhinson4095 For a range baby - they're fine...kinda. Ha!
@isaacnorton6251 Жыл бұрын
lol exactly, can you imagine all the times 1911s were soaked in mud in the South Pacific and the trenches of Europe
@deanhinson4095 Жыл бұрын
@@codywalz8555 Not really. The 1911 that fired covered in mud was a $6000.00 specialty build, and functioned the same as the $400.00 mass produced M&P. I'd rather buy a $400.00 "range baby"...
@codywalz8555 Жыл бұрын
@@deanhinson4095 Hence the "Kinda." They do feel good, but I'd much rather have a tool that works when I need it to.
@WCRV Жыл бұрын
My daily carry is a G43, but my "SHTF/get to my rifle" pistol is a M17, so I was happy to see how it performed.
@brxndon24 Жыл бұрын
As an m&p 2.0 carrier i couldn’t be happier that it passed not only the ice test but mud test too. M&P for the win!!!
@ChipWooder Жыл бұрын
In 2 months S&W will tweet about this.... reminding us of this... again.
@Klutch_cd Жыл бұрын
its my new EDC, i get to train with it for the first time tomorrow. Im excited and these vids makes me a proud owner lol great upgrade from the hipoint c9
@SchwererGustavThe800mm Жыл бұрын
Shit dude, if they make a shield plus in .45 I think I'll pick one up!
@alanfernandez854 Жыл бұрын
@@franks450 ALL METAL BABEEEEY!!
@TrevanDotCom Жыл бұрын
Same here! I carry the M&P 2.0 9c and I’m shocked by how many people sleep on this gun. It’s built like a tank and feels really good in your hands. Absolutely love this gun and will probably always be my EDC
@CanoeAngler Жыл бұрын
We switched to the M&P in 2009 at the Detroit police department and after shooting thousands of rounds through them I’ve never had a malfunction. My edc is the Shield plus, love the flat trigger. I’m glad m&p did well in your test. Great channel.
@howlerzgorge4005 Жыл бұрын
My first ccw was an m&p 40 police trade in from Detroit pd!
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
We have a police trade in from the DPD in my gun shop. Pretty cool!
@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын
the great outdoors company is a joke
@caleb9422 Жыл бұрын
I bought 2 9mm and 1 .45 mp shields back in 2017 for less then $200 each. While they have been reliable guns they are to big for the round count imo. Only time I ever really carry that one is if I am going somewhere I have to leave in my vehicle. I haven't looked at the newer shields so maybe it has been addressed with the size to round count.
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
@@caleb9422 The Shield Plus is a 16 round capable gun with the new 15 rd mags, so the “issue” has been addressed; however, the size to capacity issue is not actually an issue. Many people still carry 1911s and revolvers, and they are perfectly equipped to defend themselves. Nothing wrong with wanting more capacity in a small gun, but it isn’t an issue for many to carry less. Boils down to preference.
@JustintimeAndFriends Жыл бұрын
I think the Deagle works well as an EDC as long as you soak it in mud each day before carrying.
@Nmille98 Жыл бұрын
But you have to have the 10 inch barrel, not the standard one.
@normanmccollum6082 Жыл бұрын
Apparently so! I remember the ONE time I shot a Deagle, it was at a range and just a rental pistol so granted who knows how many rounds it had seen since last being cleaned but wow... jam-o-matic. As I recalled, struggled to get through 2 consecutive rounds, might not have managed 3 whatsoever.
@tjboylan20 Жыл бұрын
@@normanmccollum6082 that sounds more like an operator error, if you limp wrist it, you will jam it every time
@non-binaryjesus Жыл бұрын
As long as everyone else's guns are muddy we good
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@normanmccollum6082 If it's a rental gun, most likely it needed cleaning or even replacement springs. Desert Eagles are maintenance hogs. My personal gun only ever had one malfunction, where a .44 Magnum case got stuck in the chamber and didn't extract (which seems more like a problem with ammo than anything else), but I always clean my gun every time I fire it, even if I just put 20 rounds through it. Also the springs are recommended to be replaced every 1000 rounds.
@randelrobbins1408 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing the M&P do so well. I was an early adopter.
@mattwolfen Жыл бұрын
Look at S&W out here making an idiotproof handgun. And there's Mike becoming the more powerful idiot to finally kill the thing. I'm pleased with how this turned out.
@GarandThumb Жыл бұрын
pure chaos
@mattwolfen Жыл бұрын
@RogerWilco99 If you make it idiotproof, they will make a better idiot.
@BrassBashers Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted an M&P, but I guess not enough to buy one. This video changes things for sure.
@mattwolfen Жыл бұрын
@@BrassBashers Was back and forth with m&p and glock at first, ultimately went with m&p because I prefer the grip angle. Having it be this tough is just the cherry on top.
@BrassBashers Жыл бұрын
@@mattwolfen my Gen1 Taurus and my Sig 320 (basically the same as the M18 in this test) ran the best through my torture tests. Glocks have not run well in my experience once wet with any sort of debris added. You can check my most recent videos.
@Sniperboy5551 Жыл бұрын
“Make fun of people with different guns, religions, races…” Absolutely made my day 😂
@fizeekpoaster Жыл бұрын
Lmao. All in good fun, of course :D
@bryandavid192 Жыл бұрын
Mike couldn't take his energy at all. It was hilarious
@infinitesimotel Жыл бұрын
@@fizeekpoaster Based to the core.
@damage6836 Жыл бұрын
But the wrong people hijack that stuff...not worth it
@TheChristianArroyo Жыл бұрын
That was fucking hilarious 😂
@leroyatleroys Жыл бұрын
I already figured that the M&P would do well. It really didn't surprise me. What I get more excited about is that with every elemental test that is conducted, the Glock guys get a little quieter.
@scott8908 Жыл бұрын
I own a Glock 19.5 and M&P 9c. Love them both. They’re both very reliable. The M&P is definitely a little more rugged tho. I have seen too many videos though where HK pistols have sucked during torture tests. Where are all the HK fanboys? They seem to be the quieter ones. The HK mk23 did horrible.
@omnissiah7859 Жыл бұрын
@@scott8908 to be fair almost all the guns did horribly during the 2nd test. I am a HK fanboy at heart but obviously i was a rooting for the M&P after it destroyed every other pistol in the ice test
@nickv5576 Жыл бұрын
@@scott8908fans of HK are only fans of HK because they think it’s cool that their guns are in video games. I think they’re quiet because the community is mostly nerdy dudes that use them as range toys
@hellspyro666420 Жыл бұрын
Under normal circumstances it seems like a quality side arm will function after being dropped in mud. I wonder how well they would all do if they were dropped and only stepped on once. Which would seem like a more realistic test. The MP definitely did awesome though
@leroyatleroys Жыл бұрын
@Skookhunter17954 Personally, I believe that it is a great time for pistols. Even some cheap guns are getting a record for reliability(Canik, certain Taurus pistols). I feel that finding the right gun is more about personal preference these days. I just get tired of hard-core Glock fans scrambling to shit on the M&P every chance they get because they don't want to admit that Glocks are overpriced and not even top dog anymore. Sig fans can be pretty toxic as well. But I always seem to get more flack from Glock guys. Or even when I would be at a gun store and I would see guys recommending guns, they would talk about how Glock is the best. Sometimes I would interject on how the market has changed and then I would just get ignored. Like damn, I am just trying to show that you don't need to buy an overpriced brick anymore. Sorry for running off there. The short is, most pistols will be reasonably reliable. But I just want certain toxic fans in the gun community to accept reality and stop being such pricks about people choosing other brands.
@iamkronix3422 Жыл бұрын
Charles’s sarcasm and dry humor is unmatched
@bminturn Жыл бұрын
It's been known since the mid-to-late 90s that the Desert Eagle .50 AE is the best weapon ever created.
@GarandThumb Жыл бұрын
Call of Duty never lies
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@GarandThumb Desert Eagle also survived getting run over by a tank on Demolition Ranch's channel. I do wonder if the problems you ran into with the gun were due to crappy mags or just the gun not being clean.
@GeauxRussGeaux Жыл бұрын
It definitely shines in Far Cry 6.
@GarandThumb Жыл бұрын
might have been a break in period past what we initially did for the test
@andrewjhollins Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how gratifying it is to be an S&W fanboy and come across these videos (this and the ice challenge) organically. It's like the universe granting you an "I told you so."
@losdawg6265 Жыл бұрын
Totally agreed Andrew! I LOVE my M&P 2.0. It was my first gun, and 6 pistols into my collection now, it’s still my favorite!
@lordjosephkohles Жыл бұрын
Me too, been a S&W fan for years and it is good to know she will run all day long.
@resolute123 Жыл бұрын
What I heard from the XM17 trials was the M&P had a hairline fracture in the frame when they did a round dump torture (think it was 10k without failure). It was implied that the M&P did shoot all rounds, but due to compromised frame it was disqualified. If that's the case, its just a matter of getting the right mixture in the polymer and she would have been good for the the next phase of trial, though it would have been nice if the Army actually conducted the 2nd phase of the XM17 test.
@uberNerdStatus Жыл бұрын
*cries in Ruger*
@dragonvipers5612 Жыл бұрын
@@losdawg6265which one did you get for your first gun
@tyw2675 Жыл бұрын
The MP 2.0 did really well in MAC's elements test, and through most of their gauntlet test. Same with the USP in .45, which is why I was surprised to see the Mark 23 not perform very well here.
@GarandThumb Жыл бұрын
I was surprised at the mk23 as well
@Totem4285 Жыл бұрын
@@GarandThumb Mk23 was designed for .45 ACP 185gr @ 1200+ FPS, a +P loading, nowadays known as .45 Super. It was noted during trials as being unreliable with standard .45 ACP.
@Chapo28 Жыл бұрын
My choice of an M&P 2.0 10mm as my skin/ice walker gun has been validated.
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
@@Totem4285 🤓🤓🤓
@FiveTwoSevenTHR Жыл бұрын
@@Totem4285 .45 Super is more like +P+. It's definitely more potent than just +P.
@jrodsadventures9784 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the test done again and including the CZ P-10!
@gunner3387 Жыл бұрын
I've been EDC'ing an M2.0 since 2017. And thanks to your freeze test and your mud test, I feel so much more confident carrying it! This was awesome!
@Weimerica8841 Жыл бұрын
Now you can eat your lunchables with both hands worry-free!
@evanstebbins7246 Жыл бұрын
I just got myself a m2.0 a few months ago to be my new edc and these tests make me so happy
@dutch4260 Жыл бұрын
I was worried I was about to get a reality check since I've grown extremely attached to my M&P 10mm 2.0. Makes me even more confident carrying it as my EDC.
@IntergalacticEmpireProductions Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised by the M&P. When we were doing extended training weekends with MidWest Tactical we decided to stress test our pistols. The glocks (gen 4) started failing completely about 200 rounds in with out a quick swab. My M&P 40 had its first misfire at 445 rounds in, and stopped extracting in the 490 range but could continue to fire by manually being cycled each time. It didn't stop working until 600 rounds in.
@IntergalacticEmpireProductions Жыл бұрын
@@davidzzz94 We were not intentionally dirtying the weapons, but it was a very hot dry summer weekend in a gravel pit. All of that fine dust got into the weapons, but the S&W was much better sealed than the glocks.
@1Surt Жыл бұрын
@@IntergalacticEmpireProductions Your channel is solely Warhammer 40K content. Ps: no firearm is "sealed". Tolerances can be increased to raise reliability, that is about it. As Yeager (RIP) would say, he's seen more barrels worn out by over-cleaning than by shooting. The man created Tac-Response and trained 1,000 of students each year for decades. As for your original comment, rubbish. Stop posing, silly basement dweller :D
@Prodigy_ADED Жыл бұрын
Smith & Wesson has been around for as long as they have for good reason. Between this test, the ice test, and Honest Outlaw leaving his out in the middle of Iowa for 3 months in the elements and it ran flawlessly. It’s hard to say it isn’t the best gun around. It’s affordable too. As a person with a PDP. I’ll have to recommend my friends and family to a S&W. Thanks GT.
@Spidey_Ethan Жыл бұрын
Got a link to the Honest Outlaw video about leaving it in the elements for 3 months? I kinda want to watch it now. haha
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
The M&P is quite possibly the best pistol available today. I love mine, and I’ve shot a lot of guns. I love HK and Glock, but anyone who thinks M&P isn’t at least par to those two are myopic at best. I rank the M&P equal at the least!
This has been my favorite Garand Thumb video 🤣🤣🤣🤣 really love the dry humor that's been coming with the content
@ianscyclewerkz5135 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the m&p 2.0 won the ice test and mud test makes me love the fact that I carry and train with this gun.
@9770G Жыл бұрын
Lol if u think Mike’s torture tests hold any weight u are a fool. This test was sooo inconsistent. If u want real torture tests that are done the right way look at MAC’s torture tests of handguns. Those tests are done the right way. And the Glock out performed the Sigs and and M&P’s in his sand/dirt/mud/water test.
@stevenbobbybills Жыл бұрын
Good lad.
@adriancopperblood1546 Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@robertthebruce7176 Жыл бұрын
I think everyone forgot that the M18 also breezed the Ice test without a problem.
@0ldFashioned85 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@dammichsmith Жыл бұрын
I love my M&P, so it was pretty satisfying to see it dominate this and the ice test video. Maybe people will start giving it the respect it deserves.
@wdavis6814 Жыл бұрын
SIG fanboys need to justify spending more money on an equal pistol that randomly shoots your cock off though :'(
@Flying1776Eagle Жыл бұрын
Hopefully the Glock fan. Boys won’t drive our prices up 😂
@dougsmith3821 Жыл бұрын
Very cool guns for sure
@wraithwyvern528 Жыл бұрын
Of course not, 95% of people base their opinions of firearms exclusively on bandwagoning on other people's opinions to mask their utter lack of experience or knowledge of firearms.
@jamesofallthings3684 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what other people think. M&P is my go to and they're decently priced still. Anyone that doesn't respect a reliable .40 is irrelevant and their opinion means nothing.
@warrenroberts1912 Жыл бұрын
This actually confirmed to me that im getting a M&P 2.0 right after i finishing my AR build. That thing is INSANE!!
@-Sirens- Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this test done again with budget guns. It would be awesome to see who makes the best gun with the least amount of money. I carry an AREX delta gen2 and have always been curious about durability.
@alonzahanks1182 Жыл бұрын
old smiths would realy clean house
@nightraver5610 ай бұрын
The S&W M&P 2.0 which won is definitely the cheapest of the 4 winners. By a long shot, I don't even have to look it up.
@MetatronsCube239 ай бұрын
$450 for that S&W ain't budget?
@darinhusk366 Жыл бұрын
The HI Power failing in the first round just broke my heart. I've owned my 9mm Browning for over 25 years, through countless rounds and not one jam. Kudos to the 1911! Thanks and cheers, fellas!
@nomanmcshmoo8640 Жыл бұрын
HUGE Hi-Power fan, too. Somehow, I just knew this one was gonna choke. My personally HP has been through thousands upon thousands of round and a full rebuild and just keeps on running but I just knew this one was gonna give it up in the first round. It still bummed me out. The "straight" 1911 actually kinda surprised me on round two.
@RedHuntsman Жыл бұрын
I call foul. Look at how gently he dropped the prior plastic guns in comparison to how he threw down the Hi-Power. Yes, at least the Nighthawk 1911 fared well.
@scaleworksRC Жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped when that happened!
@ericvanswoll4611 Жыл бұрын
I have to shake my head at that. The 1911 and the Hi-Power are the same basic design
@BboyYellowFlash Жыл бұрын
@@ericvanswoll4611 Yeah but the hi power has a trigger disconnect, and tighter tolerances than the 1911, and the 45 has a bit more push back on the slide, which probably ate through the mud better. I think the hi power and CZ 75 had the same issues, they just don't have the space for the mud to go, and both don't fair well in sand tests either. So keep your gun clean and they'll do you just fine (i carry a staccato so i lost too lol)
@losdawg6265 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see my beloved M&P 2.0 do it’s thing. I’m not sure who talks down on it, though. Through my own personal experience, I have let about 12-15 people shoot my 6 pistols, and almost every one of them picked the M&P as their favorite shooter. It’s such an awesome gun. I have about 2,500 rounds through mine, and go figure…not a single malfunction.
@losdawg6265 Жыл бұрын
@blackpanther5086 I didn’t claim it’s an insane number of rounds. I’d say that’s an adequate number to not experience any malfunctions. I’m up to closer to 3,500 at this point, so I hope you are a little more proud.
@cameronrichner3108 Жыл бұрын
@@losdawg6265got the same shooter in 10mm, would you believe it's my first gun? Love the thing
@Pknuckles1804 Жыл бұрын
I've put 3,000 through mine since I got it in April without a single malfunction. No matter what I feed her she runs flawlessly. (Things you can say about your gun but not your girlfriend)
@losdawg6265 Жыл бұрын
@@Pknuckles1804 haha. Well said Scott! Glad yours is running like a champ!
@davegrizzly6301 Жыл бұрын
Miss my fullsize gen1 m&p reloading is fast
@counselingpsychology Жыл бұрын
I’ve been shooting M&Ps since 2007 with about 35k rounds through the five that I’ve owned. Other than the bad triggers in the Gen 1s, I’ve never had a malfunction that wasn’t caused by bad ammo. An Apex trigger in an M&P 2.0 is the best striker fired trigger in the history of plastic guns. Combine that with the reliability you’re seeing in these tests and it’s one of the more overlooked guns on the market.
@Trench_God_93 Жыл бұрын
Smith and Wesson has been manufacturing firearms for just under 200 years…. I carry an m&p9 2.0 4” apex tactical barrel, Apex failure resistant extractor, Apex flatty trigger, Holoson 509t, Stream light tlr8-ag, Floyd’s customs EDC mag well and +6 mag extensions. The thing is amazing and I trust mine and my families life with it every single day.
@shanekelly4857 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy! Another stress test video to base my personality on!
@SgtCroaker Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see what I carry (M&P 2.0) perform so well even under the most ridiculous of conditions! Honest Outlaw did a video some time back where he left his M&P 2.0 outside for 3 months and that gun fired through two full mags.
@smokinguns1 Жыл бұрын
I saw that video, thing did not look good when he started but ran like a champ.
@adbjr12 Жыл бұрын
I bought an M&P 2.0 as my first carry gun in 2018 solely because I didn’t want a Glock. I feel like, after all these tests, my choice is validated.
@Pregnancy_Test Жыл бұрын
Me too! Full size 2.0 carrier here, no regrets.
@leroyatleroys Жыл бұрын
I just hated the Glock ergos. Though I was always a S&W fan. But I contemplated trying various companies when I was searching for a modern carry gun. But when S&W released the 2.0, the more I read about the improvements over the first gen, the more it made sense to me. Then I bought it and it ran amazingly for years. It still does. Still, no matter how much I insisted, I could never talk about the M&P's merits without a Glock guy scoffing about it. All because Glock had "time" to be "proven". I am just glad that the M&P 2.0 has had enough time and testing to "prove" what I have been saying for years.
@kissmyoradora83 Жыл бұрын
My friend has one, not sure why but I never liked it. Ny all accounts its a great gun but i just cant like it. Hurts my hands when firing in a way that glock doesn't, even though it's supposed to be "smooth" bc of the gas. (I say "glock" but I have a beretta apx because I also refuse to get a glock. Close enough tho)
@hoopslaa5235 Жыл бұрын
@@kissmyoradora83 s&w worst guns ever! the hold,handling, all of it! threw mine in the trash..because...california lol
@microchrist6122 Жыл бұрын
And it only took 5 years for the validation! 😂
@norfolksouthernrailworks15435 ай бұрын
You see, i just purchased 2 M&P M2.0 metal frames, and i have yet to shoot them. After seeing these tests, i am positive of my purchase being the best. Thanks @GarandThumb!!!!
@maticuno Жыл бұрын
As someone who has carried the M&P for 12+ years, and have been a factory armorer for it that whole time, I am not even a little surprised at the results. It is as close to a perfect sidearm as you can get.
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын
the great outdoors company is a joke
@maticuno Жыл бұрын
@@zillsburyy1 That's fine, but their incredibly reliable firearms speak for themselves.
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
@@zillsburyy1 What is the great outdoors company?
@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын
@@oleboy7615 American Outdoor Brands, Inc
@MrThundergod94 Жыл бұрын
It's wild to see how the energy of this channel evolved over the last half decade.
@heeebeeegeeebeee Жыл бұрын
* Pats the M&P compact currently in appendix. * We did it, big guy.
@Realistx1018 ай бұрын
We made it 😎 lol f yea!
@TwizzReal8 ай бұрын
Me rn on shift
@Mango-h5h6 ай бұрын
Me too shields r better than glocks, sights, triggers, grips, looks imo
@furioM85 ай бұрын
Same lol
@outboundflight44555 ай бұрын
Theyre very reliable and have a comfortable grip. The Shield Plus is a beast for Concealed Carry.
@ThePimpedOutPlatypus11 ай бұрын
Yo...I was surprised to see the Desert Eagle as one of the champs. I expected the M&P to perform that way, and the 1911...it did serve in 2 World Wars, 2 regional wars, and numerous large scale operations successfully 🤷🏽♂️ I know people love to hate the 1911 because it's old, but it is a workhorse
@rekire___ Жыл бұрын
A wise man once said "the best pistol is the one we made along the way"
@dillonc7955 Жыл бұрын
Ah the wise shepherd from Kyber Pass's famous words...
@Sidekick_Snowman Жыл бұрын
Amen bröther
@ReptilianLepton Жыл бұрын
3D printer go brrrrr
@tacticalmattfoley Жыл бұрын
Isn't that PSA's entire manufacturing philosophy?
@SpartanD63 Жыл бұрын
The Desert Eagle doing well here actually makes sense. It's a totally different action and a pretty violent action at that. There's no way for stuff to get in the locking mechanism unlike the Browning tilting barrel designs used on most pistols. This is also making me want an M&P lol
@AntonAdelson Жыл бұрын
Gas operation goes BRRRRRT
@jacobkean03 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wasn’t really surprised about the desert eagle based off of the power alone. There’s a lot of pressure operating that action.
@TV99DE Жыл бұрын
Dew it, M&P is such a nice handgun. Got my wife the 2.0 Compact and it’s amazing.
@supergoodadvice853 Жыл бұрын
Full size M&P Performance Center. My go to for many years.
@redreeler490510 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised that the CZ 75 didn't do very well because I've seen test where they've literally stuffed mud into the pistol a lot worse than your test, and it worked almost flawless!!!
@Viper2132 Жыл бұрын
I've been carrying an M&P for years now and these videos always make be unreasonably happy 😂
@Filmingtherush Жыл бұрын
@@YuTube_Username Those are fighting words. I’ve had my m&p 2.0 for 5 years. Thousands of rounds-range trip twice a month. Not a single issue. Hold your tongue, trash.
@Filmingtherush Жыл бұрын
Likewise brother. Glad you like it. Jerry Miculek’s first choice for a reason.
@randomchannel4886 Жыл бұрын
Military&police is just a gay ass name tho
@varcaic9170 Жыл бұрын
@@randomchannel4886 couldve been worse, could of said "grip zone" iykyk
@mr.browning7.624 Жыл бұрын
@@randomchannel4886 I mean. I guess? But considering that was a big part of their target market it makes sense
@nicks9541 Жыл бұрын
Was very uncomfortable watching Charlie testing the depth of the mud puddle
@GarandThumb Жыл бұрын
everyone was
@nicks9541 Жыл бұрын
@@GarandThumb it was the unwavering eye contact for me
@gooberusmaximus5362 Жыл бұрын
You misspelled aroused ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@TheBrick534 Жыл бұрын
@@nicks9541 That’s a man with conviction right there
@joshjohnston2986 Жыл бұрын
I got hard and now I gotta talk to my shrink
@lethalsmash Жыл бұрын
Lol the basic 1911 design holding up well even by today's standards when it was introduced during a time when its competitors (Luger, Nambu, TT33) failed to operate reliably in dry, controlled settings is impressive.
@DAVIDEDWARDBURKHOLDE8 ай бұрын
Glad to see the D’Eagle made it thru the mud tests…. Awesome video.
@Centurion04 Жыл бұрын
That Mk.23 result has shattered so much of the things I have held dear in my head and my heart since my father and cousin both got me into firearms as a boy. That specific weapon was one we all dreamed of and was upheld as a paragon of ruggedness and reliability second to none... and this test just shits all over that notion, lol.
@joshaustin7419 Жыл бұрын
Bro same lol.. Still my favorite handgun I own 😌
@michaelphillips5786 Жыл бұрын
Lol military arms channel, look Hk m23 and usp. Outstanding results, one of the best ever. One can keep running these tests over and over and get different results, it seems. They really don't prove much to me because I keep seeing flip flop results on various reputable channels..
@LabiaLicker Жыл бұрын
This could be cope. But a single test sample size doesn't invalidate it passing trials with flying colors
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
Main issue I think is the Mk.23 was optimized for .45 Super, so .45ACP is actually underpowered for the action. You notice the main problems were failures to eject since once there’s some dirt and grit in the action, it didn’t have enough oomph to open. Meanwhile, the .45ACP 1911 likely is optimized for .45ACP, so it had the necessary force going backwards as well as the necessary force going forward. Same with the Desert Eagle on a more massive scale.
@TheSwoopDog Жыл бұрын
@@gameragodzilla these tests are for entertainment purposes and aren't really scientific or repeatable. Also yes, the MK23 has a stupid oversized slide for .45ACP, so it's not surprising that it can't push through those conditions with "just" .45ACP. But also, as much I love the MK23, it has so many unnecessary controls and small parts compared to a modern designed, that I am not surprised that today it can be beat by a design that costs a quarter and is, overall, just newer and better.
@amb5991 Жыл бұрын
The M&P 2.0 9mm compact was my first firearm purchase several years ago, and the pistol I carried for years. The value proposition is too good. Not a ton of aftermarket available, but I’ve always been pleased with mine. I traded it for a 2.0 Sub-compact about 8 months ago and it shoots just as good while offering more concealed carry flexibly for me. I love it! Having said that, I scooped up a gen5 19 mos, which I’ve done a few upgrades on, and I love that thing. I’m personally glad to have both, and they fulfill unique needs for my edc.
@GodGunsGills Жыл бұрын
When it works flawlessly from the factory, there's no need for aftermarket availability
@Rafael_Fuchs Жыл бұрын
I've been recommending it as a first handgun since I shot one. Good feel out of the box, handles well, and it a fair bit cheaper than most handguns. Seeing it crush the tests just means it's the best all rounder at this point. Imagine if Glock was half the gun. Lol
@RogueFox6 Жыл бұрын
Best upgrade I did for my M&P was an Apex trigger, sear, and sear spring.
@TheHashtagSquad2K15 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I don’t think the m&p is worth it especially when the PDP exists. It’s not much more expensive (less than $50) and you’re getting an optics ready handgun and the trigger is far far better than almost anything else out there even aftermarket triggers.
@daffern1 Жыл бұрын
Really surprised at the MK23's performance considering the extensive prior testing the military subjected it to.
@petervonfroster8i Жыл бұрын
THAT!
@pjkf01 Жыл бұрын
That’s the one that hurt for me. Tough seeing your grail gun fail.
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@pjkf01 I read somewhere else here that the Mk.23 is optimized for .45 Super, so .45ACP might not have been strong enough to open the action once there was some resistance from the mud. Given the most frequent malfunctions were due to failures to eject, I think that makes sense.
@S_225_ Жыл бұрын
@@pjkf01I was sad to see it fail, but then every single gun ended up failing too, so I feel better now lol.
@johnnyolivero711 Жыл бұрын
Hk and their gimmicks 🤦🏻♂️
@phtevenchevas39606 күн бұрын
I was on the fence about buying an M&P, but now I’m on my way to the gun store. S&W is next level!
@TinS0lder Жыл бұрын
This video totally changed my idea of what carry gun I should get my wife's boyfriend. She deserves it!
@christurner8255 Жыл бұрын
My wife's boyfriend Dontarious doesn't need a gun. He's a real man.
@peezyp4369 Жыл бұрын
Gimme somdat Ukraine money
@CutlassOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I think what made the Desert Eagle so reliable in this particular case was that it is gas operated. Not always a good thing, but in this particular case it seems to be more reliable than recoil operated mechanisms. Interesting test.
@ML-762 Жыл бұрын
I was obsessed with the M&P when it came out. Took a couple years before I could buy one, but I shoot better with it than anything else I've owned. Crazy, man
@mrarivv0007 Жыл бұрын
They're great shooters period. M&p checks off all boxes, just not as popular in the hip-hop world. 😂
@remander38738 ай бұрын
Made my first handgun purchase a couple weeks ago. Compared the Glock 19, Walther PDP Compact, and Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 Compact on the range. Wasn't a contest. M&P was tops for me. I don't expect to be in such extreme conditions, but it's great to see how reliable it can be.
@christianhenes8844 Жыл бұрын
Picked up an M&P as my first gun i got when I was 21 because it was cheap enough and had the most mags of the ones available at the Air Force Base I bought it at. A few years of training and carrying later and it's been the best gun purchase I have made.
@mateodiego3481 Жыл бұрын
Boom. There you go. The M&P 2.0 is probably the most reliable and under rated gun out there. The latest generation with the new flat trigger makes it much more comfortable and accurate. I am super happy with it. Many others seem to be too.
@scottyeager539 Жыл бұрын
Me, too. One thing, though: I don't think this test or the ice test were done with an M&P that had the new flat trigger. It would be interesting to see if that matters. I feel like the flat triggers would maybe not be as tough in these tests.
@boygonewhoopdataZZ Жыл бұрын
The new trigger looks more for competition, probably wouldn't' even get a round off if mud blocks the safety in the trigger
@bryandavid192 Жыл бұрын
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ like with the Glock in this video? Also, the flat trigger is found on optics versions of M&P 2.0. They still have hinge triggers on the normal 2.0s
@gtarules1 Жыл бұрын
@@scottyeager539 So you're saying get one without that new trigger
@Mitsurifan357 Жыл бұрын
Too bad that trigger is trash
@danimal865 Жыл бұрын
Ive had an m&p 2.0 since they came out and i love it. Its very comfortable to hold and has a nice recoil impulse, i own glocks and other much more expensive guns, but that m&p is one of my favs
@leatherneck161Ай бұрын
I love that this test was done BEFORE the pistol drop test. Guess they unintentionally did that test before making it a video
@SkweezyCox Жыл бұрын
I get a lot of crap for carrying an M&P 2.0 but I've never had any issues with mine, absolutely love it
@aryanpashtun416 Жыл бұрын
Same, I carry the shield 2.0 but it works
@Anthony-kn8cn Жыл бұрын
Same carried on duty two separate issued m and p 40 and never any issues. Those we're 1.0s and l have three personal 2.0s 4.5 inch pro series & compact and subcompact 2.0 and never a hiccup of any kind. I'd say I'm confident in Smith and Wesson.
@aryanpashtun416 Жыл бұрын
@@Anthony-kn8cn I'm confident enough to appendix carry them.
@Anthony-kn8cn Жыл бұрын
@@aryanpashtun416 Agree 💯
@vipe650r Жыл бұрын
I like Glock, myself, but I’ve never understood giving M&P crap. It’s a good gun and has been for a long time.
@flexinclouds Жыл бұрын
As the owner of an M&p9 2.0c.. Im quite pleased to see my soon-to-be carry gun doing so well in these tests 👏
@ChadMHankins Жыл бұрын
Mr. Thumb. This is more entertaining than most modern , big budget TV series. Thank you. Please keep making this style of content.
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
What's TV? That antiquated pile of propaganda horse poo? Yeah their ratings are in the toilet.
@Sockmonkey56007 ай бұрын
Exactly why I carry a M&P 45c! When I went to buy a pistol I planned on getting a Glock and a ex military and part time law enforcement guy working as a salesman at the gun shop asked me what I did for a living I told him I was a fabricator and wanted a gun that would last a lifetime he then said cast vs milled stainless he said the trigger sucks but the milled stainless slide could be run over by a truck and would likely still work he said when on the job he carries glock bc it’s a issued weapon but personal carry he said M&P with the Apex forward set sear! He was 100% correct I have carried for 10 yrs
@1stSgtSoulStealer Жыл бұрын
Glad the M&P was my first pistol and I did the same test. I am also an armorer for them, and these tests make me glad they still work as advertised.
@rpwbass Жыл бұрын
I own a 1.0 and a 2.0. No regrets.
@magscorch7706 Жыл бұрын
They should really test the M&P 15 next, my first AR
@9770G Жыл бұрын
Lol if u think Mike’s torture tests hold any weight u are a fool. This tests are sooo inconsistent. If u want real torture tests that are done the right way look at MAC’s torture tests of handguns. Those tests are done the right way. And the Glock out performed the Sigs and and M&P’s in his sand/dirt/mud/water test.
@1stSgtSoulStealer Жыл бұрын
@@9770G Without getting into too much detail, I also put my M&P45 through a torture test as well, with about the same outcome. But this gatekeeping-esque phrase of "If you want real *insert thing here*" is so cringe. Doesn't matter what they do, it's still putting the firearm through irregular conditions to see its useability.
@MrKneeV Жыл бұрын
In other elemental torture tests that I've seen on KZbin, those same three - Glock, M&P, and Walther - are always the top performers, and which one "wins" depends on the video and the person performing the test. Based on the aggregate of these tests that I've seen, I'd say that it is a three-way tie. But if that M&P you used in this video is a newer model, it could be a sign that M&P is continuing to improve and has genuinely surpassed the other two.
@davidbagley5452 Жыл бұрын
The CZ P-07 and P-10 are amazing performers in these types of games. I own M&P 2.0, CZ, Staccato. Would never own a Glock or a Walther. Just dont like them is all. Certainly proud of the M&P 2.0 as mine are 100% reliable with brass ammo. Have had two stove pipes with aluminum ammo. I have shot thousands of rounds so I just dont use aluminum ammo anymore and my wallet is unhappy but I am not.
@ImDudePlayinADude Жыл бұрын
in this test there were no glocks in the winners though. The 4 winners were the M&P, Deagle, 1911, and M18. the Walther would have been after those, and was only in the winner group due to biases lol. It wasnt a loser, but wasnt a winner either.
@mandaloresmercy Жыл бұрын
The CZ 75 felt like a similar winner to the PDP. Love that series in general
@SuperD00D Жыл бұрын
@@ImDudePlayinADudei don’t get why the Glock 19 got a fail when it did better than the D eagle lol. It may have done as well as the 1911 and/or M18 as well, Id have to rewatch
@vornamenachname9898 ай бұрын
You do sound a little like an undercover Glock fanboy, considering how you put the Glock to the "top performers" when none of the two Glocks made it my friend
@isawat2891 Жыл бұрын
I feel good knowing I don’t anticipate a shot much more than Mike doing a mud test
@Macreadysshack Жыл бұрын
Haha - I noticed that, too. 100% understandable not knowing when trigger would break.
@crowman5936 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he was milking it a little hard a few times but if the SHIF I would want him next to me even with his milk maid outfit on.
@floridajim9 ай бұрын
I don't know what was better - that you threw a Desert Eagle in with the "serious" pistols in a mud test, or that it surprised everyone by doing so well. "What happens if it flips out of the hands of a video gamer, it lands in a puddle, and he plants his ass on it?" "You're right - lets make it mud proof..." Any chance of an FNX-45 Tactical test in the future? Looks & feels interesting, but the few reviews I've seen seem to be way too positive.
@warrenb8228 Жыл бұрын
I often forget how insanely massive the H&K M23 is until someone with banana hand syndrome holds it.
@camsnyder2636 Жыл бұрын
A weapon to surpass metal gear
@FiveTwoSevenTHR Жыл бұрын
Alternatively if the Mark 23 is the gun you handle the most, everything else just feels tiny.
@2Gold_Dubloons Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly lol
@CoachJoshFlint Жыл бұрын
I demand a redo with MAC 's Mud!
@boxcarbandit2098 Жыл бұрын
Have loved the 1911 since my grandpa took me to fire his ww2 marine corps sidearm as a child. SIG i happen to love as well. The S&W m&p is always a go to for a reason. Great vid and went how i expected. I knew the deagle would muscle through only due to the sheer force blasting all the mud right out of it :'D
@textm960 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching feel free to reach out, i have something for you.....
@DutchTraveler Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this test since the ice pistol test. These tests are great and hilarious. Time to sellout to M&P?
@accordingto27 Жыл бұрын
It’s BEEN time my boy. Come to the dark side
@Eric-kw1lu Жыл бұрын
@@accordingto27 my 2.0 beats my Glocks in all areas
@Chapo28 Жыл бұрын
❤️my 10mm
@Oubre84 Жыл бұрын
My m&p 2.0 is the cheapest gun I own..it's also my favorite gun
@ProTuner06 Жыл бұрын
@@Eric-kw1lu HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@TheRushton Жыл бұрын
Me who bought an M&P yesterday, and watched the Ice/Mud test back to back 🗿🍺
@YogiTeef Жыл бұрын
It was nice to see that Mike still had faith in the MK23 with that trigger anticipation.
@noway6633 Жыл бұрын
Hammer fired struggle with excessive mud. If anything I think if they changed the ammo to something like Plus P or 45 Super and tested it more it would have done a bit better. Still think it would have probably been on the lower end tho. Also considering sample size of 1 and all that.
@derrickdorion8434 Жыл бұрын
I work at Magnum Research and great to see the Desert Eagle represent!! Love the content!!
@dishsoap1 Жыл бұрын
Before I die, I will own a Desert Eagle.
@marv8481 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I’m shocked with the S&W MP 2.0. I had one of the original M&P’s and I hated it, stove pipe every other round, and was just overall a poorly functioning fire…pew pew. So these 2 torture test videos for pistols are making me consider getting a m&p 2.0 now
@shmokeyquinn9218 Жыл бұрын
Smith and wesson traditionally dominated the revolver industry so it took them awhile to get the semi autos right. They have come a long way though and make some of the highest quality pistols going for reasonable prices
@blackticalmayhem8461 Жыл бұрын
The original one looked so much cooler tho with that beavertail.👌
@themightycrixus1131 Жыл бұрын
Personally i have been told that stove-piping is due to a weak grip and possible magazine issues. It have been user error. No telling for sure though
@davidk2628 Жыл бұрын
You will not be disappointed with the 2.0
@walterrussell6584 Жыл бұрын
Ive got over 2k rounds through my 1st generation M&P 40 cal. Have never had a failure to fire, stove pipe etc. Only bad thing on the gun was the trigger.
@jts12fan4 ай бұрын
I have a friend who owns an M&P 2.0 with 1000’s of rounds through it, he doesn’t take care of it at all, not cleaned it one time. And somehow, 0 malfunctions. I got me a shield plus last year and have put 1000 rounds through it and it has been flawless. I do clean mine every time I use it, but M&P is the most impressive pistol line I’ve ever seen.
@jason12518 Жыл бұрын
This test was really eye opening, I think I'm going to remove the mud from my sticcato and my Glocks, they didn't seem to preform well covered in mud AT ALL, my 365x will still remain muddy until I see some testing on it tho
@nerdyredneck5049 Жыл бұрын
That M&P made me uncomfortable with how well it worked. But my favorite, the Sig, did great and made it through all the rounds so I'm happy.
@2wheelinheathen Жыл бұрын
This made me feel pretty good in my choice of the M&P. Love seeing it surprise people.
@towarzyszbeagle686610 ай бұрын
Australian LEO here, my carry is an M&P 40. They are really god damn solid pistol.
@Silent_Merc Жыл бұрын
I'm really hoping for an uncut video of you guys cleaning all these guns
@leewilkinson6372 Жыл бұрын
Do you really want to see them drag out the pressure washer and hose them down right on that table.....? 🤣
@dtaylor7003 Жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!
@TheEmeraldSword04 Жыл бұрын
That would be a nice change of pace for the end of the video, give that vibe of setting up a warm bath after hours working in the snow.
@danielrodriguez5463 Жыл бұрын
I after shooting many production pistols believed years ago that the S&W M&P line was the softer shooting and better balanced. Now it looks like the most reliable. And their performance center pistols products even better.
@sirweaver879 Жыл бұрын
I rock the new M&P 2.0 Compact with the updated trigger that is even better than the gen 1. Seeing it do so well makes me feel great about my decision to go with Smith and Wesson instead of Glock.
@jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean the flat trigger? I hope to see those come standard soon! That hinged trigger is the only thing stopping me from getting an m&p
@alanfernandez854 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459 The hinge on the 2.0 isn't bad, idk what everyone is on about, but I went with the boujee Performance Center so that might be it. 😁
@boqtheboneless5 ай бұрын
Do this test with subcompacts... Sig 365, glock 43x, fn reflex, canik sc and others
@QwispyVoid Жыл бұрын
As an M&P owner myself as well as a P320 (yes I know not truly equivalent to the M18) I am shocked by both of them running this test as they did. Love the content as always Plaid Daddy, keep it coming
@baileyclark6916 Жыл бұрын
I can’t see the differences between the p320 and m18
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
The M18 is a P320. Rest assured the M18 he ran is the same as the P320 carry model the public gets, not the M18 actually issued to the military, although those guns also failed miserably. I still can’t believe anyone wants one!
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
The M&P is without a doubt the most underrated pistol in the top tier line of guns. I rank it over Glock and par with HK.
@QwispyVoid Жыл бұрын
@@oleboy7615 bought my p320 years ago now, and I do have to agree. It’s not the greatest. I would definitely take my M&P any day over it. And I do agree with it being underrated and feel like it does outperform the Glocks. But at the end of the day, personal preference and experience is going to be what it comes down too.