FILM: Is Jordan Love a top 10 NFL quarterback? Why Green Bay Packers may have found another gem

Jeremiah Sirles, Alex Boone and Phil Mackey break down a key five-game stretch where Green Bay Packers QB Jordan Love started to really figure things out. Is Jordan Love a top-10 QB in the NFL headed into 2024? It's not as crazy as it sounds...
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Two former NFL offensive linemen (Alex Boone and Jeremiah Sirles) team up with a die-hard football fan and media dweeb (Phil Mackey) for entertaining, informative, opinionated, behind-the-scenes discussions about the game -- from a trenches perspective!
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[@corinnekonkol5825]

I think a lot of his late season success had to do with the rookies finally getting on the same page.

[@JimeLello]

💯

[@miketyson1717]

Them recievers basically didn't drop a single pass the later half season, impressive

[@Gangstersinmyboo]

Very impressive but very happy that everyone locked in like it wasn’t just the receivers Jordan love also did I mean his passes looked a lot better imo

[@whatspackin]

They would have been more successful Rodgers last year if he didn't go out of his way to alienate the rookies, he iced Watson out an entir😂 game because he dropped that one pass first game, then he always preferred older guys over younger guys, and he was also sabotaging the offense from day one. I blame 12 for most the offense struggles.

[@corinnekonkol5825]

@@whatspackinThat and the fact that he didn’t come in early and work with them

[@BradDaeda]

One thing to keep in mind the first half of the season last year is that he didn't have fully established veteran receivers to throw to. During his poor overall showing in the first half of the season, there were definitely flashes of what we saw later in the season. There was just as much growing pains with the core of very young receivers as there was for Love.

[@jdb2722]

Oline dealt with injuries first half of the year too.

[@waurbenyeger]

My thoughts exactly. Almost all the YT people I watch like QBschool, Kurt Warner etc were like, "... wtf are the receivers doing here? Either LaFleur can't draw up a play or these receivers aren't running the correct routes." You're talking about an offense who had never really played together, most of whom were 1st and 2nd year guys. Took about 10 weeks for them to get on the same page, but when they finally did ... Look out NFL, that's all I'll say about that.

[@hugeboi3669]

Jordan Love cant stop throwing to LBs and defenders unless LaFleur schemes up perfect plays for him. Hes not going succeed long-term

[@jdb2722]

@@hugeboi3669 bears fan crossing

[@Dennis450D]

@@hugeboi3669 whoah, good offensive schemes help QBs yeah? Phenomenal stuff

[@jimbo92107]

Actually, it's not Love's "wrist action" that gets surprising power off the back foot. It's a trick I learned as a young tennis player hitting overhead shots - a scissors kick. Favre, Rodgers and now Love all do it. It's how you generate power in your throwing hand while leaning backwards. If you time it right, it's almost as good as stepping into the throw.

[@kichki777]

Intresting, aaron always gave me tennis vibes while throwing the ball.

[@chlly]

Yeah, you don't get yourself flipped 180 degrees with your feet off the ground with arm mechanics. He's generating enough torque to whip his whole body around in mid-air.

[@James-ll3jb]

Great observation

[@sputnikalgrim]

Go watch the Wicks TD play in the Dallas wildcard game, it’s all you need to know about where 10ve is at. He reads the defense, changes the play, adjusts the protection and then stands tall in the pocket waiting for what he saw to develop, then he throws a dime. That sort of pre snap diagnosis separates him from other young guys. Justin Fields is physically gifted but wasn’t reading defenses and his eyes were down looking at the pass rush, 10ve sees the field and makes the right decision. Just remember Brett Favre threw 200 more interceptions than Rodgers and he’s in the HoF. Every QB throws picks

[@Nightwing300]

Favre is a monster don’t throw shade at him

[@K.KILLORAN]

Also, he made that play against a potential future HOFer in Gilmore.

[@andrewstutz4240]

Right, that was as good as anything Rodgers has ever thrown it was pin point.

[@MrCheques90]

He made an ever better read/throw a few weeks prior in the Vikings game. They had a rotational cover 2 (started with a cover 3), Love got them to tip there hand early, called an audible, and chucked a dime to Jayden Reed for like 30-40 yards right down the deep middle of the cover 2. Just phenominal

[@pedroalonso6414]

you got that from the matt interview 😂

[@matheus074]

on the second play, against Detroit, it's well established that Watson ran the wrong route. It should be a triple slant concept but he for some reason runs an out and almost bumps into Reed. Luckily it didn't blew up in their face

[@A_Herding_Corgi]

I don't want to discredit Love, he was incredible in that stretch, but man LaFleur deserved some CoTY chatter, after three years of "is he just carried by Rodgers ability" he proved he's absolutely an elite playcaller in this league.

[@A_Bunch_of_Savages]

Those 7 long weeks wondering when we would finally get our next franchise QB were some of the worst of my life. Now I know how Bear fans feel.

[@mitcho5452]

He will cement himself as top 5 next season. He was arguably #1 for the second half of last season. The young guys around him will also only get better which will help his stats as well.

[@jermworm4915]

yall say he had a bad first half of the season but you're just summing up that 4 game skid into 8 or 9 when he actually had some pretty good games in the first half with a young offense that wasn't on the same page as him yet

[@jackscully4686]

after the draft can we do a football 101 series? I want to know about different pass protection schemes and run plays and how defenses try to attack them.

[@jammininthepast]

Thanks gentlemen for your hard work. I value your takes and insights. Is it me?? I'm not a love guy, I need to see more & consistency from Love. O.k. yeah I'm a Broncos fan, so I'm an expert on crap qb play. Thanks again you're appreciated.

[@ross.metcalf]

What software do you use to watch a video and draw on it? I don't review film tape, I work in video games, but it would be cool to draw on video game footage.

[@jonstewart8683]

I love that he got the bad games done early. In his rookie season.

[@thomasmoshier3920]

What’s encouraging is Jordan Love got better as the season progressed. After three years on the bench you expect a little rust. If he had started out hot, then faded towards seasons end I’d be far less optimistic. But I agree, we’ll know by the end of September if it was a fluke or he’s the real deal….

[@danthedm7693]

Needing Aaron Jones is a tad overrated. GB beat KC and Detroit without him.

[@karma99]

Jordan Love is my pick for breakout QB next season. We didn't really see it in the plays selected, but his decision making when under pressure is incredible. We saw some of that during the season but it shone in the post-season, especially against Dallas. The pocket would collapse around him, no way out, and he'd move, pick a target and get the ball out on target in under a second. Add that onto everything highlighted above, and he'll be a top 5 QB.

[@ShadEatz]

LOVE ERA!! 💯💯

[@Dkd906]

GB beat Lions and Chiefs w/o Jones

[@sputnikalgrim]

10ve haters are gonna hate, but if he wins a ring they’ll be acting like they never doubted him

[@James-ll3jb]

Exactly😅

[@dumpsterfirefrl]

Got outplayed by Tommy Devito and Jimmy Garrapolo 👍

[@scottmielke4071]

Jordan Love threw to his first read 77% of the time. That's the #1 highest, We can't tell what portion of his success is because his coaches are play calling incredibly well. Patrick Mahomes is 27th ranked on passes to his first read Josh Allen is 31st Stroud was 31st Dak is 16th Not saying Jordan Love isn't good but his first read is 77% of his passes which is INCREDIBLY high. It's almost a record amount of first read passes, only behind Tua in 2021. So his work is made easy by his first read is very quick and easy and he doesn't have the success in extended plays like others do. It's not a knock against him because he doesn't need to wait. What this number does hide is HOW amazing he might be at pre-snap reads and knows which guy is likely to be open and makes him his first read. So his ability of knowing how the defense is going to play against his play calling allows him to be successful.

[@sputnikalgrim]

Go watch the Wicks TD in the wildcard game again. Watch him pre snap. You’re absolutely right about him reading the defense. If all these young WRs take another step and get even more synchronized with him it’s going to be scary. Rodgers was still playing inside the system when he won his ring, being off schedule isn’t the only way to measure greatness. I’m not saying Love is Rodgers, I’m merely saying the plays are what they are, he still had to make every throw, and as it stands right now Favre threw 200+ more interceptions than Rodgers and he has a yellow jacket. Let the kid play before you rip him

[@jdb2722]

How many of the first reads were after he changed the play? He changes the play a lot and spends a lot of time figuring the defense out pre snap

[@hugeboi3669]

@@sputnikalgrim Jordan Love cant stop throwing to LBs and defenders unless LaFleur schemes up perfect plays for him. Hes not going succeed long-term

[@hugeboi3669]

@@jdb2722 Jordan Love cant stop throwing to LBs and defenders unless LaFleur schemes up perfect plays for him. Hes not going succeed long-term

[@jeremyschulthess63]

I'd be interested in seeing where you got that stat from.

[@bryanhylok9961]

I get why they said. But hes top 10 already not evenna question. Up to him to prove it and get will

[@jeremyschulthess63]

The Reed TD on Thanksgiving was even more amazing when you realize that Watson ran the wrong route. He goes and puts his hands on his head at the end realizing he was supposed to run a slant as its a triple slant route. Watson is supposed to take the CB and MLB with him and it goes easily behind to Reed.

[@acinoralas9107]

I don't think love even seen watson on the play. Some luck involved but still an amazing throw.

[@vitigaymer1053]

1. Mahomes 2. Allen 3. Burrows 4. Lamar 5. Rodgers 6. Hetbert 7. Dak 8. Purdy 9. Jordan Love 10. Stafford

[@gordonstewart8897]

Why do the Packers keep finding really good players that keep them in the running for the playoffs each year? Because they have a front office that knows football and plans for the future instead of operating at a knee jerk level....you know...like the Vikings do.

[@vitigaymer1053]

If the vikings take JJ McCarthy...they will run NFC for years to come

[@James-ll3jb]

Because they're the Green Bay Packers. Been doing it since 1921😂

[@jaynabbz4767]

I was never once worried this season. It took him 3 tries to run down the field and lose the game to solve his 1st comeback. So many 1 score games that coulda put the pack at 12-5 easily. Especially if kicker was hitting He's going to be a big time player.

[@Playsinvain]

No. Everyone did not doubt he was the guy. Even From KC 1 he showed poise and understanding

[@travisoshea]

The first play looks like zone match, no? RIP/LIZ concept?

[@c.l.freeman7654]

Early on he was hesitating on his throws. Once he started trusting himself and his receiver's, he started cooking

[@Noneyabiznez1209]

If he picks up where he left off and sustains it through the season 4,273 yards, 40.8 TDs, 6.8 ints 118 passer rating..... definitely top 5 if he sustains and doesnt get better or worse

[@alect1953]

First game of the year we blew up an expected good division rival. Had a rough 4/5 games with a win mixed in (saints) the rookie wrs started to get the scheme, and Jones came back we exploded. Love makes some mistakes but it cleaned up good in the stretch to the playoffs. I'm not saying he's a top 5, but 5-15 isn't unreasonable in my mind

[@alect1953]

That lions game window throw was funny to me due to watson running the wring route making that play look like that

[@MrZachary111]

Dude did it with brand new receivers. J Love is top 5 qb in the league.

[@davidjames5393]

Top 5 QB

[@scottmielke4071]

Love the show but the "Lamar Jackson is the anomaly" is odd. After Lamar's MVP season, he got injured 3 seasons in a row and never completed more than 75% of his games up until this year.

[@danielorth2244]

Way to early to say he is, however he seems legit and green bay is so great at qbs, hope the vikings will learn to be very soon

[@Jsharp1]

The greats r not consistent all 18 weeks.. but they clean up wen it matters

[@DyslexicLemonz]

Is he top 10? Easy. Is he top 5? Not yet. Give him a year.

[@chiremae1001]

Hello it's his first year starting. was Peyton great during his first rookie year? and his WRs are mainly rookies and second years. Sheesh.

[@MackP414]

Jordan love is easily top 10 QB in the league. The games Jordan Love struggled was without Aaron Jones which you guys stated and Christian Watson missed a bunch of games due to injuries. Those two guys are big difference makers. Also Jordan love had to throw to a young group of receivers mostly rookies and 2nd year players. Also his # 1 Tight end was hurt for a significant amount of time as well. The mere fact Jordan Love was able to overcome those obstacles and post top 5 QB stats is a good enough argument for him to be a top 10 QB. I dare you guys to name me 10 QB that could have posted better stats and lead this young Packers team to the playoffs like Jordan Love did.

[@MrCheques90]

He's top 5 minimum

[@craigburner1296]

Go Pack Go!

[@stevenwilson5406]

Jordan Love is Definitely Jekyll......

[@myfriendstutta]

Jones was hurt during the Detroit and kc game…

[@joer1678]

Jones didn’t play or was limited in several of the wins

[@MrCrickaway]

First half of the year was just starting

[@vikingjerome2438]

Yup because the pac did it right let him sit a couple years

[@Dennis450D]

2024 MVP, making Watson OPOTY

[@aanii2878]

If Favre and Rodgers had a baby 😂

[@snupolupogate2895]

K , name 10 qbs who had 18 straight weeks for incredible qb play if thats the paramiters. Ill wait

[@Alpha-MaGa]

all i gotta say is GO PACK GO !!! 🧀

[@bobbyreyes7474]

Having a hard time naming 10 QBs better besides the obvious ones..

[@bendoe264]

How can you hold him out of the top 10 rn? like name the top 10 without him?🤔

[@bob_ohms2low75]

Beginning of the season isn't all on Love. He had nothing but first & second year wr's, & te's. Also, Aaron Jones was out most of the year. It takes those guys time to get comfortable playing in the nfl. Shit, they were running the wrong route half the damn time!

[@fitzroygeorge9157]

He is already top 10 right now. There were not 9 QBs that played better than J Love last season. Cut it out

[@cuz_i_sedso9574]

This is a joke right? so which 3 of these is he better than? Hurts, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Cousins, Tua Purdy, Stafford?

[@mattgautieri3779]

Every one of them except maybe Burrow

[@jacobsipla9328]

as a lion's fan, this makes me laugh that GB thinks this mid QB gets you over Detroit/MCDC/Goff lol

[@dustinrustick8450]

Didn't Love have a better QBR, more TDs, and Fewer INT than Goff? And it was his first year starting. Isn't Campbell the coach who shoots himself in the foot consistently and gift-wrapped the Niners the NFCCG last year? Maybe GB won't win the division, but let's not pretend Detroit is an immovable object at the top of the North.

[@jacobsipla9328]

@@dustinrustick8450 who runs the NFC North? Lions Who actually put up a fight against the 9ers? Lions Love and GB sucks

[@dustinrustick8450]

@@jacobsipla9328 The Lions put up a better fight than the Packers? Both teams lost by 3 late. The Lions Run the North after winning it once in 30 years? Got it!

[@JefferyT1991]

@@jacobsipla9328all you’re doing is embarrassing yourself little guy

[@jacobsipla9328]

@@dustinrustick8450 we were leading into the 2nd half. What were you guys doing? Oh that's right, Love threw an unnecessary pick at the end because he's garbage.

[@hi5011]

Dumb football question: do players truly hold a vindictive motive when they switch sides like Aaron Jones did? Packers released him and seemed like he jumped into purple without even thinking about it

[@theRealBohemian61]

J.LOVE is a BEAST! 1) Arm talent is amazing. 2) Always in control, reads defenses and gets everyone on the same page. 3) As stated by a few people, the 1st & 2nd year players were very erratic early w/missed assignments and penalties. What stood out to me though, 10 never got down on anyone. Love took the responsibility and never wavered. That is the job of a leader. The sky isn’t even the limit…Go Pack Go!!!

[@jacobsipla9328]

@dicezart who was in the conference championship game? simpleton

[@James-ll3jb]

Is this a joke? He's a top 3 NFL quarterback hands down. 😅

[@jaygawronski8686]

Bottom left corner guy talking about early season Packers and Jordan Love struggles and not metioning the inexperience in WR/TE and no Aaron Jones is showing his football knowledge.

[@user-bz6mn3tu8k]

The reason Love looks a little like Favre, and a little like Rodgers, is because of one of the best QBs in CFL history tuned best NFL QB coach in history, Tom Clements. From Wikipedia: “During Clements time as the quarterbacks coach with the Packers, he has worked with starting quarterbacks: Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Flynn.” “On February 17, 2022, Clements came out of retirement and joined the Green Bay Packers as the quarterbacks coach again, this time under head coach Matt LaFleur.”

[@phreakerbythespeaker9902]

Jordan Love is already above KIRT Cousins in rank

[@ryandaley3351]

Nope

[@Patrick-tq1ew]

Nobody does it for 18 weeks wth dis do dey tlkn bout... Even mahomes has bad games hell he looked average vs Packers n he's the best in the world.. j love is a top 5 qb !!!

[@dustinrustick8450]

Exactly. half of last season the experts were burying the Chiefs.

[@moorelife4449]

Want even his best plays. Nice work tho 🫡