The quality of this thing for $160 is like insane but just keep in mind this thing is ment fort dj gigs so it should be pluged in to a wall outlet
@DanielBrosman082119864 жыл бұрын
What will happen if I buy every party speaker on the planet that plugs in and that would have a rechargeable battery builtin and just set it up and pair them all to my phone and have it playing Mama-Mia by abba full blast and it I went to another county to locate all of them from my phone using the internet to try and listen, Besides my phone would be to the Max Volume anyway, on my phone I would press play will I still hear it from like United Kingdom to USA or vise versa?
@ronaldmcdonald73494 жыл бұрын
Daniel John Brosman ok u win
@chelaash6 ай бұрын
Which plwhi h power cord is it ?? I'm trying to figure it out
@bfree61976 жыл бұрын
I now own 3 of these. They are very loud and the amp's never get hot. One at work, my boss says it's well worth the 150 purchase price. 2 at home hooked together with rca cable and a Dayton Audio 12" powered subwoofer. Their SUB1200 to be specific. Another great product. The 15" sub in the blackweb..... is a PA Speaker, short travel. Not a dedicated subwoofer that has a much longer travel. It plays all of the midrange too. Plays extremely well down to about 50HZ. You won't get a deep rumbling bass from any PA Speaker. You get Piss Off the Neighbors LOUD, with descent sound quality. If you wanna rattle your windows, buy a dedicated subwoofer.
@monteporter82206 жыл бұрын
B Free how did you hook up both speakers?
@danyeboi95976 жыл бұрын
Just got one for 35 bucks
@nextxtopic5 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for DJ'S... just house partys and small events..
@bryantlouie18565 жыл бұрын
@@nextxtopic no, get ev or if you want cheap get like an alto professional tx212
@nextxtopic5 жыл бұрын
@@bryantlouie1856 ok thanks
@ghettowizard3787 жыл бұрын
this video inspired me to go buy this speaker!!! I've had it just over a month and it still sounds incredible!!! love the rotating LED lights too!!! if your in the market for an extremely powerful Bluetooth speaker, this is as good as it gets for $150 new!!!
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Ghetto Wizard Glad this video helped!! Lmao you got a badass name btw!!!
@phillyflytee98495 жыл бұрын
In my 🚗 to get a Blackweb speaker. I have their earbuds and I’m sold.. Thank you!!!
@frankthetechtank7 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one, I only need it for a small room so I'm confident.
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
How big is the room?
@frankthetechtank7 жыл бұрын
just a small room here in my house. maybe 12 by 8
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
Ohhh yeah this unit will definitely make the room rattle
@ismaelcarrillo39565 жыл бұрын
Get the smaller 160 watt dual speaker. Sounds really good
@ismaelcarrillo39565 жыл бұрын
Portable battery, bluetooth
@TG58794 жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell through my computer speakers of course. But it seems this is one of the best party speakers out there. Unfortunately I don't think they make it anymore. I can't find one. I'm gonna keep searching though.
@OZBros4 жыл бұрын
for the price it’s an amazing speaker!! But I don’t think they make that exact one anymore.
@GoaWay4Sanity6 жыл бұрын
that country track was from the original terminator haha the “bar scene”😁
@AdMral5BrAnDOn7 жыл бұрын
I'm buying this! Couldn't find any reviews, nor an actual website for black web. I have an ion tailgater that's nice for work, but is a bitch to lug around. This has a nice handle and wheels. I'm stoked. Thanks for the vid!
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+SavvyPolitician yeah I couldn't find any review on it either!! So I was like what the heck I'll do a review
@lif3forc3366 жыл бұрын
Cant tell if the bass is good. Love bass Can someone tell me if you Can you feel the bass? Or just little
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
I went and bought 4 of them new from a distributor here in Orlando. I kept 2 and selling the other 2 for 225 or 125 each
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Did you like how they sounded???
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros both together heck yes
@derekquinones86146 жыл бұрын
I’ll buy one
@citylights34526 жыл бұрын
I want one I'm in Apopka
@matthewbrannon94166 жыл бұрын
aux in is for your phone so you can listen to you music if you have an aux cord
@yanusdevgopy87675 жыл бұрын
Does it have battery can I put charge
@yanusdevgopy87675 жыл бұрын
Does it have battery
@chelaash6 ай бұрын
What input cable is it I can't turn on the speaker :(
@JustinallenHoover Жыл бұрын
Can you show me how the wireing is in side
@hunterotis22626 жыл бұрын
I need some help. I would like to get this to put in my car. I have a thing you plug into the cigarette that allows you to plug a three prong plug into it. Will that be enough to supply the speaker or will I blow something. If there's a title of a video of how to connect it to the batter or something that'd be helpful or if it will work thru the port thanks a ton
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Really good question!! I haven’t tried anything like that, this speaker will probably drain your battery if the vehicle isn’t running! I don’t think it will blow anything, if anything it might get a fuse.
@marcuswahid72766 жыл бұрын
Make sure the inverter you will be using is rated at 1500 watts or more. Also what O.Z Bros said.
@nokor995 жыл бұрын
Is that a 1 inch jack for the mic and could you hook a guitar to it??
@lpcarpenter7 жыл бұрын
Did you ever do a comparison video with the other speakers?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
No I haven’t! I’ve been busy with school and work! But I’ll try to get it done soon!
@lpcarpenter7 жыл бұрын
I feel you do your thing
@djdashdfw7 жыл бұрын
great review, im very impressed with the blackweb products
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+lol I was really surprised!!
@djdashdfw7 жыл бұрын
+O.Z Bros i bought the pc speakers for 40 dollars, those r loud as hell too for suck a compact size, im contemplating buying the small blutooth speaker eith flashing leds its like 30 but yeah this brand came out of nowhere and it seems to be the best bang for your buck out there
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+lol yeah it's crazy what you get for the money you spend!! Great products
@cooperp12415 жыл бұрын
it ain’t always about how loud it goes
@magia50356 жыл бұрын
If you switch that read switch from 115 to 230 do you get more sound
@amywyatt51907 жыл бұрын
how do you set the radio stations on this??
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Amy Wyatt I will look into this and upload a video on how to set them if that's okay!
@hotboy1979885 жыл бұрын
ATG makes one just like it that runs on battery power as well as wall power you can even charge it from your car with wireless mic
@hristo_yonkov6 жыл бұрын
what is the battery life?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
It has to stay connected!
@truthmatters-notgreed7845 жыл бұрын
is it compatible with CD+G and/or MP3+G files?
@divasdames54965 жыл бұрын
That country song is Dwight Yoakum!!! Good song from back in the day!!!
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
I just saw the 76 corvette it's very nice. I've got a 1979 ttop camaro z28
@javier88867 жыл бұрын
Hey man do you know how to set the mode to connect rca {red white} cables?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure!! Try it on AUX more
@BeardedRicanDad6 жыл бұрын
I just bought it a while ago and when I got home the speaker blew out in 5 minutes I didn't have the volume that high the woofer that was installed into unit I don't think it's rated for high bass that is rated for
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Man that sucks!!
@marseanigilmore25155 жыл бұрын
Ove had mine 2 years and it's still going strong. Sounds just as good as they day I bought it.
@seanthomasson053 жыл бұрын
I've had one for years it's been left outside there are holes knocked in it and the handle is broke off and it still sounds good
@Atomicatom806 жыл бұрын
Does it have fm?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Ryan216Ohio7 жыл бұрын
I know what early Christmas present I’m getting me 😎 I love the sound of bass. Some speakers I hate that you have to sit in a certain place just to hear certain sounds of the bass. Like the low bass I never could hear it unless I put my ear damn near to the speaker lol. But the high and mid bass is okay. I hope this being 1500 watts of bass hopefully lets me hear all high,mid, and low bass in any part of my home lol
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+ClevelandMenace this is actually a really good unit!! It’s LOUD!!
@Jwxzy6 жыл бұрын
What’s does the orange light mean I think I overcharged it
@TheAres4056 жыл бұрын
I see you reppin the 405!
@islandboy09897 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@biggdoggxxxx6 жыл бұрын
great review man ..just bout to get brookstone big blue...not now..thanxs..Blackweb here i come...
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Lmao!! I have the big blue and I love it!!! I take it to parties and cookouts, but it’s not as loud as this thing!!
@biggdoggxxxx6 жыл бұрын
cool...thanx again man !!!
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
No problem! Glad I could help!
@georgemarkhay41766 жыл бұрын
i cant find it at walmart and im only finding a company called befree i need this for a party nextweek
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure where else they sell these units
@bryantlouie18565 жыл бұрын
Get like an alto professional tx210, way better than this garbage
@marvincaballero38537 жыл бұрын
I have been aching to get this when I seen it at Walmart now I'm definitely getting it! Thanks bro, how's the bass tho? And does it work on the TV?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Marvin Caballero it’s a badass unit! It has good bass. Just hook it up through aux and it should work with the tv. I haven’t really used it on my tv since I have a sound bar
@eattherich28074 жыл бұрын
You can adjust the bass through a knob on the back, I believe.
@OZBros4 жыл бұрын
Yes there is a knob in the back of the unit that you can adjust the bass
@Night_Watch4137 жыл бұрын
Is there a way I can connect two of these together through Bluetooth? Or do I need to hook them up with rca cables?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Audio Slayer80 I’m not sure if they can be both connected through Bluetooth. But I’m sure you can hook them up with RCA cables
@Night_Watch4137 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros thanks I gave up and just did it with the rca cable.
@Amazinbeats7 жыл бұрын
Audio Slayer80 I'm having a party this weekend I'm thinking about buying another one. Do they sound evenly balance together. How exactly did you connect them
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+AmazinBeats AmazinBeats we just have one! But if you run them on a cable they should be balanced.
@Night_Watch4137 жыл бұрын
AmazinBeats I hooked them up through rca cables, one Side for the input and one for the output. And they sound even once you adjust them.
@bgundam277 жыл бұрын
Looks good sounds good for 160 not bad
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Reinier Montes I think it's like 140 now!
@MichaelBrown-ty4wy7 жыл бұрын
Reinier Montes it's very good for 160
@marcossoto71346 жыл бұрын
Reinier Montes Marco 🤑
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
I sell them for $119 plus shipping
@kaseychristensen28625 жыл бұрын
@@georgeferrer23 lol how much is shipping
@Irregular-SAMK5 жыл бұрын
How do I use the USB flash drive as a music source?
@cringemum24106 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why my speaker just stop playing? We were using it at a party and when The music stopped we couldn't play anything else from it. Its says connected and it turns on but I can not hear any sound from the speaker ? Can someone help me?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Try unplugging it for 15 seconds and connect to it
@cringemum24106 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros I did unplug it and it wouldn't work😞 It's connected when I connect to Pandora thro my phone but we don't hear the music , Everything turns on but We dnt hear no sound
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Does it say Blue on the screen?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
As in Bluetooth??
@PhengHawj19937 жыл бұрын
Does it have a echo option?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by echo option?
@PhengHawj19937 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros for the mic?
@officialdantaee5 жыл бұрын
I’m having a problem where it chips out after a while of playing what do I do
@wb56485 жыл бұрын
Not hearing 1500 watts but maybe a solid 100 🤔 still sounds good though
@wb56485 жыл бұрын
If they were honest about wattage, people would realize 100 watts hits pretty hard
@lyndafall88185 жыл бұрын
The sound quality isn't very good. I bought one of these and took it back the very next morning! I don't recommend this item!
@MrHartApart5 жыл бұрын
would this thing work with a samsung via bluetooth, battery, and be able to turn up a lake party?
@marseanigilmore25155 жыл бұрын
Yes
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
I do have an ebay account with 100% feedback. Just have to charge shipping.
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Badass!!
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros yeah it is
@gk45016 жыл бұрын
Kool review bro thanks I need one asap
@brauliomusic21876 жыл бұрын
Can i change the subwoofer?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t dug into it!. But i’m sure you could!
@brauliomusic21876 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros ohk thanks!
@BeerNCookies6 жыл бұрын
Is this portable as it says or does it have to be plugged into an outlet in order to be operated. If it is portable in that sense then what does the battery life look like on it?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
It has to be plugged into an outlet!
@BeerNCookies6 жыл бұрын
Right now I have blackwebs 100 watt Bluetooth and it’s completely portable but I’m always on the lookout for louder but it has got to be portable something I can play without having to have it plugged in. Any suggestions?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
If you’re willing to spend 200-250 look at The Big Blue party speaker
@lyndafall88185 жыл бұрын
You are so handsome! Also thank you for the review vid. Love it! I will go buy one today! do you think it's possible to use two at a time via Bluetooth? So we have two mics one Mic is fun, but two make a it better! :)
@trevorohara70536 жыл бұрын
I have a portable Bluetooth speaker 600w MAK PA-PORT12ECO & it won't connect to Bluetooth to my Android phone the Bluetooth symbol on back of speaker keeps flashing on the back of the speaker please help me
@marionharrison22283 жыл бұрын
How do u connect to a bomaker projector
@OZBros3 жыл бұрын
Not sure!!
@yasinmorant93407 жыл бұрын
Does it need to stay plugged in to work? Or can it be portable?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
It has to stay plugged in
@MichaelBrown-ty4wy7 жыл бұрын
Yasin Morant it can be portable with a car battery and a voltage converter
@momboot20685 жыл бұрын
Is that a 15 in speaker
@cjaydok4 жыл бұрын
NIGHTCALL BY KEVINSKY i thought id never hear someone else playing this song
@OZBros4 жыл бұрын
It’s a good song!!
@dr.thumbtzen64645 жыл бұрын
How long do they last tho
@melissam66057 жыл бұрын
Does yours still work. I bought the stereo system a month ago, and it stopped working.
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Melissa M yeah it works just fine!
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
yes it works great plus i bought the extended warranty, but so far no issues
@mrhighasshell2946 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy this
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Walmart!!
@melodyscott20676 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@yubrajshrestha86777 жыл бұрын
how can we connect this speakers to soundboard to obtain output of different mice do u have any idea then plz share bro. REPLY
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Yub raj shrestha I will let you know by next week! I’m at school right now
@raymondleggs55087 жыл бұрын
Speakers and amps that plug into the wall tend to sound better than batte ry power. Stronger power supply.
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Raymond Leggs yeah that’s true
@KyngEazy5 жыл бұрын
Can I connect this to other speakers
@dannywilliam226 жыл бұрын
I love “drive”.
@jeremymoorer70335 жыл бұрын
Can you plug a bass guitar into it?
@amywyatt51907 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these and I need help ASAP to set the radio stations
@amywyatt51907 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these need to set up the radio stations... please let me know
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Amy Wyatt okay so what I figured out was you set it to the radio mode and press the scan button and it will automatically scan and pick up the stations.. I live in Wichita and this picked up 66 different stations.. I will look into this a little bit more to see I can choose the station manually
@kc6442 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the cusswords 😂1st time for everything I guess
@lyndafall88185 жыл бұрын
So i left a comment earlier saying I was gonna buy one of these. So I went and bought it. Well guess what? Its going back to the store tomorrow morning! It has a okay sound ("for its price") but soon as we tried to sing the music stoped but the Mic keeps on going! Sounds like a CD sloping! The lights arw supposed to be bright since its electric and not battery operated!This product is not worth its price at all! Too bad i bought the 2 year $16 none refundable warranty for it! $16 dollars down the drain! But hey hope everyone else has a great time with this! Cheers
@674683DjQt7 жыл бұрын
Where did you say i can get one
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+dirk defoor I purchased this at Walmart
@texmexgod40027 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro.. looks like a good deal.
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Steve A it’s pretty good for the price!
@lyndafall88185 жыл бұрын
Its a terrible idea! I bought one and took it back the very next morning!
@jalee65875 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got the 75000 watt version
@legendfpv5 жыл бұрын
75,000 watt, lol
@paullopez94275 жыл бұрын
Is the bass powerful?
@marseanigilmore25155 жыл бұрын
Yes. I own one.
@divasdames54965 жыл бұрын
You bought this at Walmart??? Do you remember when you bought it??? Thanks!!!
@agktbee78767 жыл бұрын
Hey how many mics can you connect?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+AGKtbee it has for one mic in the rear but I’m sure you could get a splitter and connect more
@agktbee78767 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros I wonder if it would support it though.
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+AGKtbee it should be able to! It’s a pretty good system for the price
@agktbee78767 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros alright. Thanks.
@frankthetechtank7 жыл бұрын
buy a mixer, run it to the line in, and you can use as many mics as the mixer will allow
@carolinamancilla76936 жыл бұрын
is the battery rechargable??
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
It has to stay plugged in
@jalee65875 жыл бұрын
If it was 1500 watt amp you would not be able to lift the speaker like that it would weight 70 to 80 lbs. This is more like 100 watts true rms power output.
@marseanigilmore25155 жыл бұрын
Not true. I own one and its heavy af.
@martinlupez55347 жыл бұрын
oz can u show us how to connect that speaker to the tv plz man
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Martin Lupez you could use an AUX cord
@martinlupez55347 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros i try that man
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Martin Lupez did it work??
@martinlupez55347 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros no i did not work and i think u should make a video about that u could be the first one
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Martin Lupez the thing is I’m at school right now! I’ll be back home in 3 weeks
@heartlessdazzle88935 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review 🙏🏽 how much does this weigh?
@evatheboxer74174 жыл бұрын
Curlygirl shawna like 40 pounds
@stevenortiz44334 жыл бұрын
Como lo conecto a bluetoob
@jaleahgang95976 жыл бұрын
THANKS IM LOOKING INTO BUYING ONE NOW👌🏽👍🏽
@nene6086 жыл бұрын
How’s the bass bro ?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
It’s alright!! Nothing to crazy.
@djilyaz6 жыл бұрын
rechargeable?
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
No sir!
@nickrussell25377 жыл бұрын
How's the speaker holding up is the bass good and does it sound pretty crisp? And do the lights correspond with the bass
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Nick Russell it has really good bass.. and no the lights just randomly flash
@nickrussell25377 жыл бұрын
O.Z Bros ahh ok thank you appreciate it 👍
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Nick Russell no problem 👌🏽👌🏽
@renemuller22457 жыл бұрын
Hallo wie heist das lied??
@amywyatt51907 жыл бұрын
Please let me know cause I don't have a clue on how to set them to the channels.
@atomsmatter94006 жыл бұрын
Wow very nice sound quality especially the base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But problem with karaoke use because it has no Mic Echo so need to buy a mixer!!!!!!
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Pretty good unit isn’t it!
@halimmohammadi9606 жыл бұрын
this is perfect
@Kingdevin_2x7 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Devin Felton thank you man!
@ricoconsulting6 жыл бұрын
1500 WATTS: thats a heat measurement telling how hot the speaker can get before it catches fire has nothing to do with volume or loudness this is how stores rip you off on this type of product SPL signal processing level tells you how loud at what distance away the more speakers the more volume if you play the unit loud it will wear out faster
@whoopdattrick234 жыл бұрын
And RMS rating is the actual operating wattage, which should be highlighted instead of the misleading max wattage.
@NguyenHuy-lu9cm6 жыл бұрын
How you buy is I go Walmart am not see I ask he say we don't have
@Gadi275 жыл бұрын
Name of the first song my guy
@MichaelBrown-ty4wy7 жыл бұрын
Uh I bought the same one at Walmart and the box said it's rechable and portable
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
Really???
@MichaelBrown-ty4wy7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I haven't opened it yet not aloud to til Christmas and I'm excited for it
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
I would be excited for it too! It’s awesome
@MichaelBrown-ty4wy7 жыл бұрын
So how's the bass on it
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
Just wait till Christmas to find out haha
@BFreeZ287 жыл бұрын
why are the instructions so vague with this thing? I cant set my stations or get my bluetooth to connect, cant find any help anywhere to get this thing jammin!
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Brian Free yeah the instructions suck
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Brian Free but connecting to Bluetooth is fairly easy
@BFreeZ287 жыл бұрын
I did get the Bluetooth working but the fm search deal still blows.
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Brian Free yeah it scans through all the stations in your area and you have to go through and figure out which one it is from like 1-50 or something like that
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
The radio does not work very well you can select a station, it does an auto search function
@vangoghmatisse16 жыл бұрын
Hey handsome great video!
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
I heard you like smoking cigars, must of took in a big drag because u look very pale.
@vangoghmatisse16 жыл бұрын
George Ferrer, It's TRUE YOU ARE THE DUMBEST ASS IN CAPTIVITY!
@vangoghmatisse16 жыл бұрын
OH, GEORGE you want him too? I bet i can get him first.
@georgeferrer236 жыл бұрын
vangoghmatisse1 I won't get in the way I promise.
@OZBros6 жыл бұрын
Easy now!!! No need to fight we’re all friends here
@lenninolivares64047 жыл бұрын
Where's the other video you said you was going to compare vato?
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Lenny Olivares haven't had the chance to do one bro!
@roblee40245 жыл бұрын
Not a bad looking and sounding speaker I've been wanting to buy one but a lot of the times you have the manufacturers hyping it up so much makes you lose interest
@OZBros4 жыл бұрын
It’s a great speaker! We left it outside one day and it got rained on but it still works lol
@roblee40244 жыл бұрын
@@OZBros lol ok
@Kingdevin_2x7 жыл бұрын
Ya o.z I'm gonna buy it
@OZBros7 жыл бұрын
+Devin Felton it's a pretty good party speaker!! The instructions aren't very good so if you have any questions let me know! And I would appreciate it if you checking out our channel!!
@jamesdoes5764 жыл бұрын
It is a 15" pa speaker not a subwoofer or that box would be almost twice as big if it were a subwoofer.
@KGNYC1125 жыл бұрын
The plugged in only, kills it! :(
@gambit_toys65545 жыл бұрын
want battery look at the altec xpedition 8
@amywyatt51907 жыл бұрын
My unit didn't come with any kind of manual at all