Oliver Stone: Vladimir Putin and War in Ukraine | Lex Fridman Podcast

Oliver Stone is a filmmaker with 3 Oscar wins and 11 Oscar nominations. His films include Platoon, Wall Street, Born on the Fourth of July, Scarface, JFK, Nixon, Alexander, W, Snowden, and documentaries where he has interviewed Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Vladimir Putin. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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0:00 - Introduction
2:54 - Nuclear power
15:52 - Russia and US relations
21:07 - JFK and the Cold War
26:24 - Interviewing Putin
50:02 - Invasion of Ukraine
59:20 - Why Putin invaded Ukraine
1:13:44 - Propaganda
1:21:02 - Interviewing Putin in 2022
1:28:17 - Nuclear war
1:34:28 - Advice on interviewing
1:38:09 - Interviewing Hitler
1:41:30 - Putin interview language barrier
1:42:41 - Love
1:44:36 - Advice to young people
1:47:42 - Mortality
1:48:44 - Regrets
1:50:41 - Meaning of life
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Novo: novo.co/lex - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - SimpliSafe: simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour 2:54 - Nuclear power 15:52 - Russia and US relations 21:07 - JFK and the Cold War 26:24 - Interviewing Putin 50:02 - Invasion of Ukraine 59:20 - Why Putin invaded Ukraine 1:13:44 - Propaganda 1:21:02 - Interviewing Putin in 2022 1:28:17 - Nuclear war 1:34:28 - Advice on interviewing 1:38:09 - Interviewing Hitler 1:41:30 - Putin interview language barrier 1:42:41 - Love 1:44:36 - Advice to young people 1:47:42 - Mortality 1:48:44 - Regrets 1:50:41 - Meaning of life

[@kyleking9417]

Have a good week Lex !

[@Dronescapes]

Great interview ♥️♥️♥️

[@shakebraza196]

Why don't you talk about ISRAELI OCCUPATION SIR. IF RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE , WHY DON'T PEOPLE OF USA OPPOSE ISRAELI OCCUPATION ? Hypocrisy is the word for this phenomenal support of Usa Government.

[@MrKeithkerr]

@@shakebraza196 that's one point of view...everyone has their opinion

[@Dronescapes]

@@shakebraza196 Perhaps he does not have all the time to talk about everything that everyone cares about, or perhaps his guests are talking about certain topics, given the limited time they have. Oliver Stone could talk about multiple topics, they just have to choose what is interesting to him and current. I think that a 1000 interviews could be made just with the topic you are referring to. Blaming an interviewer for not choosing what you want to talk about, perhaps, not the right way...By the way, this can lead to WW 3, so it is a strong topic, perhaps stronger than others, although other topics might still be very interesting.

[@muslim7608]

“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.” - Edward Snowden

[@synystera]

@@greg5023 should they have stayed and be prosecuted by criminals?

[@bryansmith5578]

Snowden is hiding out in Moscow and is awfully quiet in the face of Russia's war crimes against the Ukrainians. His silence speaks volumes.

[@iviciaable]

@@shafferd90 you and many others are mixing the terms a bit between War, Invasion, Special Operation, especially and deliberately in Western MSM media, it is the similar situation with mixing terms, when in Christianity for example, especially in the West, Jesus is God, and Jesus itself said he is "son of God" 😀 War=when two or more countries are shooting at each other for prolonged period of time, no matter if its a Full Invasion or Special Operation or whatsoever, so this in Ukraine is War between Russia and Ukraine (and proxy War between Russia and US/UK but thats another subject) however its not an Invasion, it is a Operation and that is as clear as a day. Invasion = when one country officially declares a war against other country or countries, and uses maximum available forces to destroy and fully invade that country, Operation (special or you name it) = War is not declared by the attacking Country against the attacked one, attacking country uses limited resources in order to achieve only specific goals without fully invading some country. For example, war between US and Vietnam during majority of time was more Special Operation than Full Invasion, War against Serbia in 99 was also a Operation and not a full invasion, War in Libya was a Operation and not an Invasion, War against Iraq on the other hand in 2003 was a full Invasion as there was no special objectives but total defeat and destruction of Iraq (aside the weapons of mass destruction 😉) and they succeeded I believe - 1milion deaths, mostly civilians unfortunately but it is what it is, WW2 of course was not an Operation of any kind, it was Germany, Japan and etc. Invasion on various countries across the globe. So practically its not correct that when those specific journalist in Russia say in public media that Russian actions in Ukraine are not a "War" but not a "Special Operation" which is an official statement and strategy of the country officials, those journalists are practically being hostile against its own country or are considered as such, especially in this kind of "be or not to be" situation Russia is. So War is always War, but there is a big difference between Invasion and Special Operation.

[@theamericandream5917]

@@shafferd90 exposing American war crimes is apparently a crime in America as well, punishable by death.

[@davidminnesota4050]

Edward is in Moscow now and yet I don't hear him speaking out about Russian State crime. He is trapped and every day his outrage at the USA data gathering is losing it's inertia, big whoop. Now his real fear is Putin. He's a smart guy and he probably wonders if his Russian girlfriend is a plant and why does it all have to be so ironic. Edward is hollow - full stop.

[@ylocoslovakia]

"A healthy democracy will take criticism and shrug it off." So true.

[@dangdoldangdol9568]

@Al Coholic that's how it's shrugged off.

[@dangdoldangdol9568]

That's how it's shrugged off

[@maxawood]

@@dangdoldangdol9568 So who gets to measure “healthy and educate?”

[@isorokudono]

Someone needs to read Plato's Republic. democracy is MOB RULE. You don't want to live in a democracy.

[@Five2nd]

Yeah so true. Too bad Stone’s idol Putin kills anyone who criticizes him.

[@livingon2wheels]

Years ago, Mr. Stone sat next to me at a TED conference. I was thinking holy sh*t that's Oliver Stone. I was thinking about what I might say to him and he just starting commenting to me about the speaker on the stage, and we just had this cool friends sitting next to each kind of conversation. I'll never forget that. Probably the most real person I met in my years of going to the early TED conferences.

[@LarsVegas75]

You should have told him he should have taken the blue pill.

[@Tawahaj]

I can imagine this very well. He seems like such a genuine and real guy. I really enjoy his work and interviews. He has a very valueable perspective and is an important voice in todays shrill media climate.

[@balabani]

There are those in this world who purposefully shoulder more responsibility on their shoulders for the benefit of humanity and I put Oliver Stone in the top rank. Thank you for all of your dedication.

[@Joanne-vr4zu]

Correct analysis

[@Bangwax]

All of stone is a propagandist, unfortunately. Brilliant movie maker. But total scumbag after re-watching this year and a half later. Total scumbag full of either lies or false beliefs. Is rather amazing.

[@onemoresmartone]

He's a spineless sensationalist. I wouldn't trust him alone with my dog, let alone rely on him for political analysis

[@barfy362]

"The real President is the one in control of the teleprompter."

[@priyeshpandey1076]

Lmao

[@ssuwandi3240]

Yup. Elon's "Anchorman"

[@SPDATA1]

Biden loves his teleprompter... too much.🤣

[@puffdaddy69]

Speech writers are trash too

[@BUSI_88]

If your going to quote someone you should write the person's name from who your quoting below the quote. In this case your quote is from Elon Musk.

[@dfend451]

Take note, this is how you interview a guest. You actually let them speak and let them finish their thoughts. Excellent work Lex. A+++

[@uncannyvalley2350]

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[@911Kongen]

Let them speak, but ask hard questions that show you have understood the situation yourself and not just a bullhorn for the extreme.

[@dagjohansen8641]

So just let people lie?

[@dennisrodman8997]

@@dagjohansen8641 whats he lieing about

[@911Kongen]

@@dennisrodman8997 It is easier if you just tell us all what Stone is saying that is a proven truth.

[@minnesnowda2510]

Platoon was such a great war movie, me and my dad, watched it probably 100 times together

[@beausie-woesieherewegoesie2548]

If Dad is still alive, watch MERRILL'S MARAUDERS, BIG RED ONE, THE STEEL HELMET, and FIXED BAYONETS together.

[@d3maccus]

@@beausie-woesieherewegoesie2548 no

[@wimgrundyearth5753]

So sorry. I miss my dad too.​@d3maccus

[@TheAudinator]

Russia during Gorbachev - peaceful relationship, peace dividend, Russia had sovereignty. Then he says US is denying Russia sovereignty when Putin is in charge. Problematic. Stone is on an island .

[@user-mr3ny8om4b]

I miss my papa

[@RobinRobin-bg2bx]

Would love to hear a conversation between RFK & Oliver Stone

[@mariekuijkenhistoricallyaw2598]

sure, me too! they actually know each other, and live close to one another

[@greg.peepeeface]

That's a good one.....make it happen Lex

[@henryelectronics]

Oh god please no

[@tiahenry4743]

RFK jr. is a zionist shill like all politicians in the U.S. are. He supports the people who killed his father and uncle and I find that despicable.

[@marcopereira99]

Now that you have interviewed Oliver Stone, and with the views he has, it would be good and fair to interview Gary Kasparov, as he has the opposite view and he is Russian.

[@AndyMiron]

He isn’t Russian he is one of those ethnic Jews who is anything at all but not Russian, as anti-Russian as it can be in fact..

[@benl9047]

That would be amazing! I love Kasparov

[@verlith30]

Kasparov is actually Azeri/Armenian which was part of the soviet union

[@nikolaishmelev7837]

Gary Kasparov is not Russian.

[@alexanderpapadopoulos2383]

he already did

[@brandonhearne2702]

"Censorship is a way of life when democracies also feel threatened. They're much more fragile than they pretend to be. A healthy democracy will take all the criticism in the world and shrug it off. And say okay that's what's good about our country." That's a good point. Whether you agree with his opinions or not.

[@burn435353]

The US and other Democracies are criticized ad nauseum, I have no idea what Stone is on about here.

[@rdalge]

Isn’t it funny how dictators can be so honest and gentle with a star film maker and yet have jails filled with political prisoners and dissidents?

[@amisgohome]

You mean like Assange?

[@pancake6685]

in belgium they censored Russia Insight, Russia Today, and a lot of people support censorship.

[@gracialonignasiver6302]

@@rdalge And what do you think the Democratic Party tried to do to Trump? Just because they failed doesn't make them different from any autocracy or dictatorship.

[@milosdunjic8718]

Would be very interesting to repeat this interview with Oliver Stone, 2 years into the Ukraine war and find out if any of his views have changed since

[@redmed10]

Wouldnt think so.

[@carrontordoff5228]

I would say not!

[@shh120]

The best way to know one's position is to shut up and listen. Thank you for not interrupting him.

[@christopherwatkins1458]

I love the way you let OS speak. I fundamentally disagree with his position, but it is good to hear him articulate it without opposition or interruption. You see more of the man this way. Well done.

[@jelkeaco88]

Can you please point out with what you disagree and why. Thank you...

[@jameshayes9932]

You don't believe Ukraine is full of Nazis... and they attacked the Donbass for 8 years before the invasion.

[@daniellarsson2106]

Yeah. Please explain why you disagree with he's way of seeing things

[@cablebrain9691]

I also disagree with much that Mr. Stone espouses, but I found the interview interesting. He doesn’t acknowledge that Communism is, at its core, a system that creates a society of servitude. Compare that with the founding principals of the US, which fundamentally gives each individual the right to choose his/her own path, to prosper, or not. Stone seems to gives less governmentally-moral countries a pass, but doesn’t do so for his own. He has always made his living off of pointing-out what he believes to be the flaws of America. I also think that he mischaracterizes Putin, as if he were someone to admire. In reality, I believe that Putin is a cold-blooded killer. Just ask the great majority of Ukrainians.

[@neiljamessloan]

I feel that Mr Stone has an unbound capacity for introspection and that that is worthy and admirable - to better understand the need to express humanity at every juncture.

[@andrew_koala2974]

--- TimeStamps --- 00:00 - Introduction 02:54 - Nuclear power 15:52 - Russia and US relations 21:07 - JFK and the Cold War 26:24 - Interviewing Putin 50:02 - Invasion of Ukraine 59:20 - Why Putin invaded Ukraine 1:13:44 - Propaganda 1:21:02 - Interviewing Putin in 2022 1:28:17 - Nuclear war 1:34:28 - Advice on interviewing 1:38:09 - Interviewing Hitler 1:41:30 - Putin interview language barrier 1:42:41 - Love 1:44:36 - Advice to young people 1:47:42 - Mortality 1:48:44 - Regrets 1:50:41 - Meaning of life

[@nsik2785]

Thank you 😊

[@MotivationClipsChannel]

Timestamps were available since the upload

[@mcnally211]

Nice job. Ty. You should send this to the Duran email & maybe they can implement you're handy work. 💁‍♂️🍻

[@evetree1]

and 31.45

[@margaretcaine4219]

Thanks

[@ddal3998]

I would be very pleased if mr Stone interviewed regular people in Ukraine.

[@tenk548]

He would love to do that but he was banned by their government

[@AnthonyBlamthony]

No, he wouldn’t because I would require him to get both sides of a story, men like this, or not interested in that they’re only interested in reinforcing their own bias believe.

[@birdofprey108]

putin puppet doesn't like to face reality

[@ddal3998]

@@AnthonyBlamthony I don't think you're right here. Mr Stone has very specific view on the American government and politics in general. He has a bit of communists views as far as I can tell. In fact, communism is not a bad thing at all, it is, however, very prone to corruption and dictatorship. That is why he took interviews of several dictators. But what I think he doesn't realize is that these dictators are extremely charismatic and persuasive. In combination, these 2 qualities can make you believe that a cow is a rat.

[@jamesbaker3153]

​@@ddal3998You just poorly explained why the person you were responding to was right.

[@chinatown1841]

One of the rare free- thinking people in this chaotic world- Oliver Stone! Great respect to you, sir! 🙏❤️

[@XerxesGammon200]

Stone is a charlatan

[@vknfriendly]

@@XerxesGammon200 A charlatan because the government told you so in their media? Don't smoke propaganda, think with your head, not your ass.

[@yuzhonglu]

All countries are sovereign in Oliver Stone's eyes. But some countries are more sovereign than others.

[@Meloncholymadness]

What makes you say that?

[@yuzhonglu]

@@Meloncholymadness 28:44. Oliver Stone mentions that sovereignty of nations is crucial for international stability. He mentions Venezuela, Iran, China, and Russia as sovereign states. But he doesn't mention Ukraine. So my question is this: in Oliver Stone's eyes, is Ukraine also a sovereign nation? Apparently, all countries are sovereign in Oliver Stone's eyes, except for the ones he doesn't like.

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@yuzhonglu He does say at some point that is is, Ukraine and America have antagonised this war in my opinion and it's becoming more and more clear.

[@MrVomikron]

@@Meloncholymadness Your Honor, that woman forced me to rape her. I had no choice.

[@contrarian8870]

What's your opinion on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile etc invaded or interfered with by US actions. Are they sovereign nations?

[@margaretemigdal1490]

No wonder that Vladimir Lenin was calling this type of people "useful idiots". I think if he had had a chance to talk to Vladimir Bukovskyi, maybe he might be able to see a little better that kind of "honest man". It is amazing how even smart people are happy to see what they hope to be the truth....

[@DuhCrnihBrda]

I am shocked by his lies and excuses. Besides, nothing, absolutely nothing that Oliver said about Donbass is true. He only quotes Russian propaganda as if it was programmed. On the contrary, Ukrainians in Donbas, where they are in the majority, have been discriminated against, killed and raped since 2014. Also, the number of dead he mentions is the number of soldiers killed on both sides in that conflict since 2014.

[@vinkywink]

He was the creator of Ukraine, he took a part of land which was called " Kievan Rus' " to create Ukraine, in that process he has killed the whole Russian royal family Romanov including their six children , burned and looted more than 1000 of churches and killed 11 millions of people, that is how Ukraine was created.

[@oslickbarn3077]

@@vinkywink Lenin did NOT create Ukraine. That is Putin lies. And Ukraine as a name for that region existed from at least around 16th century, way before Russia existed as "Russia".

[@vinkywink]

@@oslickbarn3077 You should read about Romanov family, Kieven Rus and etc and please enlight me in which document before 1922. Ukraine was mentioned as independent state and not as part of imperial Russia.

[@Overlord734]

@@vinkywink In Fourth Universal of the Ukrainian Central Council, for example.

[@Wilson83192]

This couldn't have aged any worse

[@benjamingladinathor686]

How so?

[@ghoffmann821]

​@@benjamingladinathor686Get real.

[@user-kf2ky4hd5k]

Thank you for a great interview. The fact that Oliver Stone was able to speak without much interruptions really allowed me to realize to what level he lost touch with reality. He is obviously smart and some of his opinions I agree with, but a lot of it is so shocking to me that I wasn't really prepare for it. Thank you Lex for your work.

[@bengaisford3304]

You're account is 3 weeks old.

[@maximilianthiel8485]

@@bengaisford3304ad hominem attack doesn’t add to discussion my friend

[@kbud3659]

Sorry you must be brainwashed because everything he said was true

[@nataliavasluian7747]

Totally agree, please don't talk about Donbas crimes from 2014, a disillusioned rhetoric

[@kbud3659]

@@nataliavasluian7747 you are disillusioned and indoctrinated clearly

[@talkingshadow]

The fact that he's not interrupting is just awesome as fk

[@SerbanTV]

I appreciate Lex for that!

[@jackieann5494]

Yes

[@tinfoilhatter]

yeah, does he usually interrupt his guests then? because i don't appreciate that sort of so-called-journalism or info-tainment, haha...unless it's alex jones, that is:: alex doesn't need guests unless they're superduper powerful, and that happens fairly seldom... owen shroyer's apparently taken over now, which is a bit of a drag, tho he's good, he's no-alex-jones, but nobody is, man...

[@tinfoilhatter]

@@jackieann5494 well dang, jackie: {sorry, i say that to almost everyone, and they never appreciate it, ha ha, isn't that funny?}

[@tinfoilhatter]

@@SerbanTV i guess i don't get it tho: why would we expect him to be interruptin' folks: even lex luthor, had really good manners, y'know? oh, hey: i might ask, if you don't mind, do they not behave so well, then, in hell? {dang, jackie, ha ha}

[@kevindeklerk7401]

While our view of Putin may not be anywhere near as complimentary as Mr Stone's, he speaks from his experience of meeting and spending time interviewing him. I also don't necessarily share his views and perspective in some things, he gives a very open and honest perspective. I really like Lex's way of allowing his guests to express and explain their views freely in a non-combative and belligerent way. A lot of people in the comments prefer the aggressive and critical approach, debates and arguments but this is a very refreshing approach to hearing different views and perspectives and allowing listeners to form their own views. Thank you, Lex. Strength to you and your work.

[@lanija19]

What has shaped your views on Putin? What Putin himself says and does, or what the Western media say about him and how do they "interpret" what he said?

[@kevindeklerk7401]

@@lanija19 On Putin or anyone - it is what they do. There may be some truth in his accusations of NATO expansion but Eastern European countries have chosen to join NATO because of his aggression. He invaded Ukraine and is the aggressor. In human history there has been no other person that has threatened human existence as he has. Western countries like the US have blood on their hands but he has threaten use of nuclear weapons which has always been a deterrent and assured mutual and global destruction. If Putin were to launch a nuclear attack even a so-called tactical use, that would be suicide and if it resulted in mass extinction - he will become the most infamous human that ever lived. I really don't have much regard for any form of media. There is a very thin line between what we have called media and social media. There is such a radical polarization of views, we have lost the moderate and logical center and the fringe of lies and conspiracy theories is now the air people breathe. Earth is not flat and there is no flat political spectrum, it is a sphere - you go far enough left or right and you end up in the same place and most people left and right are on the dark side of that political moon.

[@TheSteinbitt]

@@lanija19 perhaps the fact that he invaded Ukraine and killed tens of thousands of people?

[@lanija19]

@@TheSteinbitt It is the Kiev regime that had killed more than ten thousand civilians in Donbass before Russia intervened. The war there started in 2014.

[@TheSteinbitt]

@@lanija19 Russia “intervened” in both Donbas and krimea with their “little green men” annexing krimea and creating a rebellion and separatist movement in Donbas. What would Russia have done if Ukraine started helping opposition “liberate” Kaliningrad? Stood by idle? Lol

[@lv434]

most of italian are against this war in Ukrain but not against Putin. Not agree on providing weapaons to Zelemsky only to follow the interest of USA.

[@antonweber9078]

Great interview! Shows me why Stone is a total Russian apologist should never be trusted for a 'documentary ' producer, EVER

[@vladimirthenailer2035]

It’s refreshing to see an interviewer allowing Oliver Stone to talk without interrupting, I just discovered this guy I subscribed it.

[@pumahuhu365]

it is nice to let ppl talk, however it would be great to confront ppl with truth and Stone obviously is not able to understand the problems in their complexity and thinks that there is a easy solution for everything, but imperialistic US government holds everything back. Good as cult religion but obviously far from reality.

[@vladimirthenailer2035]

@@pumahuhu365, the only reason Oliver stone sees Putin that way it’s because he always gets the blame in the west, Putin move in Ukraine is purely defensive you need to know what happened 4 months before Russia moved to Ukraine.

[@brunox3042]

Interview would have been more interesting with some tough questions and rebuttals. He basically brought him on to spew Russian propaganda. Pretty much nothing Oliver said was news. This is what you will hear in Russian State TV. He is just parroting most of it. Funny he has such a problem with propaganda and corruption, but not on the Russian side. Completely dishonest individual.

[@vladimirthenailer2035]

He started one thing that is important about Putin and if you pay close attention to Putin you will see Oliver Stone is right he said Putin always comes with fact contrary to what we have in the west.

[@TheNoxmage]

@@vladimirthenailer2035 In Russia we feel a world a little bit different. i dont know why it leads to war with europe every 100 years LUL

[@bodedaddus5350]

There is more value in a 10 minute clip from Lex interviews than the average person will gain from watching MSM for a year.

[@thomaschan8205]

LOL!

[@GS-kj6ur]

1 minute clip will get you a lifetime of fox news

[@astralisranger517]

It's depressing how often "stop mindlessly accepting everything the MSM tells you" becomes "start mindlessly accepting everything this alternative media source tells you".

[@zneusenrunus7395]

When you redirect the humid CO2 rich exhaust from burning methane gas… into a greenhouse growing facility… everything starts to grow exponentially faster. And methane gas can be eternally produced by organic waste and your own 💩 and of the mix. So seriously 😐 how fake is the premise for this interveiw? Even in the movies he is claimed to be a controlled opposition (tjeck mil gibsons resume fx) All methane gas (that is produced whether you want it or not from your leftovers/garbage of Living (organically)) when burned is reduced to 1/10th of the “greenhouse effect) .. and on low ground (not airplanes fx) it’s absorbed quickly by plants 🌱 growing directly from it. Burning methane to run electricity generators can run the DeFi crypto verse and if you like… like all the flares from excess harvesting natural gas on the oceans asf.. can drive hydrolysis and produce hydrogen fuel og the leftovers. It’s the biggest curse in human history to repeat the fallacy that methane is bad! Serious WAKE UP ⬆️.. it’s our biggest back into the cycle of organic life that we got. The more methane burned and exhaust to plants and mushrooms the more and bigger fruits and edibles you’ll get. Unfortunately my IP address is known by the system.., and probably almost no one will even receive to read this. So where does that leave you… if You do? Remember no organic life can exist without CO2. It’s the fundamental building block for all plants 🌱 🌳 and what you eat 🍎 🌰

[@joeharvie8362]

Well said. Great voice for a podcast. Great interviewer . A pleasure to listen and learn.

[@beausie-woesieherewegoesie2548]

Ollie and I are both University dropout Vietnam Combat Infantry veterans. I love and pray for my brother.

[@tiahenry4743]

Wow!

[@raider5260]

Mister Stone you are a leading filmmaker in Hollywood. Full of humanity.

[@randallmccorquodale3290]

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever." George Orwell

[@kelvinlewis3947]

That's a sick quote. Depressing though haha

[@theotheo7241]

Oliver Stone blaming neoconservatives for the war in Ukraine and other USA war "operations" around the world is laughable; as if is wasn't Joe Biden signing for the $40 billions to go to Ukraine, as if is not Pelosi and the company pushing for this war, as if the Democrats are no running the USA right now, as if it wasn't Obama and Hillary waging some of the wars in the Middle East and Libya . And what is wrong with Oliver Stone ? How nuts can he be , voting for the demented Biden? He did not see that Biden was senile? Trump has not gotten in any war but Biden is going to take USA to war with China , next.

[@HD-ud1dy]

@@kelvinlewis3947 Emotional discharge you have.

[@jameshodgkins559]

From The Ministry of Truth War is peace Freedom is slavery Ignorance is strength - George Orwell 1984

[@honesty3440]

@@kelvinlewis3947 Yes, depressing but true.

[@gekyr]

I never felt inclined to and never bothered leaving any comments at anything anywhere, however I've only just discovered Lex Fridman. Aside from his guests' personal views and opinions, I'm very impressed with his interviewing skills. The angle from which he drives the conversation, his manner and tone when asking his questions. It is always respectful and curious which in the end always translates to very insightful conversations. Great job.

[@Brave_New_Tube]

He gives me market researcher vibes, except he gets to ask questions about genuinely interesting things and have more of a real insightful conversation as opposed to having to rush through certain talking points.

[@AvengerIl]

Apart from letting Roger Stoned uninterruptedly give a warped Putin centric view of the world, sometimes even when letting people speak you should call them out, it's healthy.. But Lex himself seems biased towards Russia anyway so maybe he just quietly completely agrees with this whacko.

[@paulineprice9534]

I absolutely agree with you. Lex Fridman was as mesmerising as Oliver Stone. I will certainly follow Lex from now on.

[@AvengerIl]

Very hypnotic those two toads... Wonder if theyre on LSD

[@rustalisin8950]

Russia takes $720,000,000 / day from EU for gas supply There is no other choice but nuclear, to stay competitive, which means most advanced. No future as a world leader without nuclear, unless u own all the oil.. Ukraine is target for oil / gas reserves, easily dominating EU delivery once on line. Methane may be catalytically converted to H, is a preferred fuel in SpaceX rocket launch, who exactly is in control of US ..those same who led all wars.. Ballot box ? Ha

[@jasonanernathy5721]

This man embodies wisdom and intelligence . Great American

[@war1980]

28:25 Sovereignty for everyone except Ukraine. Sounds legit.

[@albertplumer]

Ukraine wheat Russia can feed Yemen population and in return get the Aden position to regulate shipping toRedSea /Suez . Dijbouti? No.

[@johnsnow9887]

Ukraine lost its sovereignty in 2013 following it's right for existence in following 8 years

[@levernallanbowles4093]

Exactly. Not a word about the 1994 Budapest Memorandum signed by Russian guaranteeing Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity in exchange for the transfer of the substantial nuclear weaponry Ukraine inherited from the Soviet Union. No mention of any of the international agreements to recognized all nations rights to territoritorial integrity, political sovereignty and right of all nations to form alliances and associations with whatever states the so chose. No recognition that NATO is solely a defensive organization, and their was no coersion to have Ukraine join. In fact, Ukraine freely sought to join the EU and NATO but met with hesitation. The European Union told Ukraine they had to clear up the corruption in their government first and make some other changes before they could be admitted into the European union. Russia's intrusions into other neighbours, its history of occupation of Eastern Europe, and attracted Eastern nations to seek union with NATO, and the same goes for .. Clearly Clearly Russia wasn't honouring its commitment with its annexation of Crimea after seizing Sevastapol. This is why Georgia sought to join NATO as there were signs the Kremlin was stirring up trouble in Georgia and likely to annex portions or all of Georgia. Russia did indeed invade and annexed two regions. NATO never was aggressive. Russia was. It doesn't respect its neighbours. That's why they have a huge force in Trinestria, the Eastern strip of Maldova and were seeking to link up with it and possibly annex that territory. The Russians tormented dissentian in that region, and armed rebels and Russian agents that started an insurgency. The Russians then in 1992 sent in the XIV army to stabilize the region and protect ethnic Russians from alleged persecution. Familiar story to Ukraine and Georgia?

[@AvengerIl]

Stone: "Poland has always been attacking Russia as far as I remember back to another century I mean the two world wars that occupied Russia".. interesting lol

[@anotherfreeroller]

Yup, that's how that all went down. Poland attacking Russia. Definitely.

[@Danno971]

There is ‘something’ wrong with Stone

[@kenboyd2779]

Oliver “ Stoned” is how Gerald R. Ford viewed him, I tend to agree.

[@Vardeth805]

I found this statement confusing as well. He clearly had a warped view of world history. He must have forgotten how many times Poland has been invaded and occupied in just last couple centuries.

[@mks6674]

It's true they were constantly in war. He meant the Lithuania Poland commonwealth up to 19 century, Poland and Russia were 2 powerhouses in those times in Europe. There were many clashes, especially in 1609 and 1792.

[@TheSteinbitt]

“What do you think of the invasion of Ukraine?” “Let me tell you about the invasion of Iraq” lol

[@bratbrat4473]

Its important to refer to Iraq as a precedent in international relations established by Usa and GB for justifiying war and aggresion.

[@juliap172]

What do you think about Ukraine killing people of Donbas and Lugansk since 2014?

[@DH-fk2pr]

Stockholmsyndrome comes to mind when i listen to this.

[@tktoadE]

Stone speaks in a way where he asserts his opinions are facts.

[@lordvader1090]

That's right. This was just Oliver Stone saying his opinion. I don't think he said one fact.

[@WilkinsMichael]

That is why he is dangerous. People believe things he says but he is just speculating.

[@JaimeNoro]

I heard a lot of objective facts in there, not just opinions. If you need references to take a piece of information as a fact, remember that this is an interview, not a doctoral thesis.

[@maryhalverson5713]

@@WilkinsMichael Stone's opinions are based on facts, rather than Mainstream blather.

[@WilkinsMichael]

@@maryhalverson5713 He's delusional. At about 27-28 minutes he is claiming Putin believes strongly in sovereignty for all nations! And Stone strongly objects to people not believing Putin in Munich etc. Without shame he is saying this in 2022 after the invasion has started! His idiocy is staggering. Falsehood after falsehood in this video and his documentary. When challenged with facts he sometimes just waves his hand and mumbles he doesn't know much about the topic, hard to watch. This issue really made me realize he doesn't care that much about the issues he talks about. He simply is a contrarian psychologically. I can't really believe anything he says on any topic is well thought out.

[@kokica007]

"The line between good and evil runs through heart of every man. And who is willing to cut the piece of his own heart?" To me the next sentence is even more powerful.. don't know why.

[@Cindy-up2oj]

Who is willing to cut a piece of his own ❤? Way to many, to include women. Women are rising and taking male roles in many powerful leadership positions. Greed, money, and power has overtaken humanity. It is not working and it will never work. It's unfolding right before our very eyes in real time.

[@hatmobile4399]

Second that. Such a powerful line

[@pite9]

Most ppl try to cut out the evil part in others hearts instead, or their perceived evil.

[@Cindy-up2oj]

@@pite9 Hurt people, hurt other people.

[@gariochsionnach2608]

@@pite9 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7: 3)

[@welingkartr416]

I started listening to this interview thinking I would have to cut off at some point and attend to some chores - but kudos to both of you. Oliver Stone is a gem of a person. May there be more people like him in the West.

[@techniciansinc6048]

Yup. Same thing with me

[@IsntTheInternetGreat]

Great director, blatant putinphile and propagandist.

[@alexanderwelch9009]

Except for him praising Putin, which is a complete load of shit.

[@tomasik11]

Would be nice to make this interview now

[@MegaKarotin]

As a someone who lives in Ukraine right now ( two last days city`s been shelled) I struggle with the urge to give in to my emotions and just let Oliver have it ( You really stop listening to geopolitical littanies after months of war). Before the February 24th , I was and still consider Mr. Stone a brilliant filmmaker, I`ve seen about dozen of his movies which I enjoyed to different extends. I do agree with his notions on how US has operated in the world since the WW2, however I tend to notice that Oliver is in a sense oblivious to the facts of similar deeds on the USSR side and of course on the Russian side. Russia has created grey zones during the Putin administration ( internationally unrecognized states) around its borders: Transnistria,PRD,PRL,Crimea,Abkhazia,Ossetia,Nagorno-Karabakh.And it seems to me that he assumed that the 72 hour operation of taking over Ukraine by coup d`etat would be yet again completely justifiable. He conveniantly criticizes EU propaganda and omits the fact that in Russia any independent media outlet was closed (( Dozhd,Meduza, Echo of Moscow (were kicked out of their office after 32 years of work) , Novaya Gazeta with Nobel Peace prize winner chief-editor Dmitry Muratov, Nevzorov was persecuted out of country) The ridiculous idea that Ukraine would somehow attack Donbas with 120 000 troops whith 230 000 Russian troops at its borders is out of this world. Stone himself said that Ukrainian forces were amassed there in response to the Russian build up. And another question is: with what? Bayraktar and Javelin ?Our president has spent the last three months asking from the very basic sorts of millitary equipment to tanks and artillery. We litteraly had a bunch of old Soviet tanks , modern drones and NLAWs. And against us were the army with Iscanders, missile cruisers , supersonic missiles etc. If we WERE to attack than why just don`t let us do it and make culprits of ourselves and retaliate? There would be a much less public support to the Ukrainian aggressors if we were ones. What`s infuriating to me is Mr. Stones sentiment about how Russia cares about the Russian speaking population in the Donbass region. You can find Nataliya Zubarevich( Professor at the Department of Economic and Social Geography of Russia Faculty of Geography, Moscow State University) about how Russia cares about the people who already are its citizens. To believe that Russia cares about Ukrainian Russian-speaking citizens is the same as to believe that the US cared about Afghanis or Iraqis . The mere fact that after three months of war Mr. Oliver hasn`t bothered to read about Ukraine-Russia relations is appaling, I`ve listened to many of his interviews before and can confidently say that his perspective wasn`t altered or upgraded at all. So how do you expect me to change my views, which believe me, have changed dramatically, if you don`t even care to get a more deep understanding of the topic? Thank You for reading this and please let me know what`s your opinion on this.

[@AndyMiron]

After you’re naming Medusa an “independent media” I could proceed reading this bullshit… I know personally these ppl, met them I live in riga as they do!

[@edwinurey4927]

You're so right. Deeply dissapointed.

[@darthsebio1726]

Respect that you can reflect intellectually...I’m 45 min in this interview and need a break from this Putin fan club...

[@SnakeHelah]

Well said! I am not even Ukrainian and it was appalling even to me how much excusing he is doing to Russian Imperialism altogether, all the while, criticizing the US for the very same thing...? If you're looking at both sides, why not criticize both sides of the imperialism coin? And then somehow drawing loose parallels, that it is in fact, US imperialism that is somehow responsible for Russian imperialism? Absolutely laughable. The interview is good, and I'm glad Lex did it, but all in all, if I was Lex I would have challenged him more and pressed him to explain his positions and exactly what he means and why he means as he does. It just feels he's insensitive to all the people who were oppressed and suffered under USSR/Russian imperialism. The topic is UKRAINE invasion. Not Iraq etc invasions???? Seriously...

[@xMartyZz]

Thank you for your comment and I hope you are, and will continue to be, alright despite the shelling. Knowing that Oliver Stone is most likely a smart man, due to his amazing films, many of which I adore to death, one must wonder what the reasons behind him peddling Kremlin propaganda could be.

[@pa9904]

The problem with Oliver stone is not what he says. Its what he doesn't say. He doesn't answer direct questions.

[@zneusenrunus7395]

When you redirect the humid CO2 rich exhaust from burning methane gas… into a greenhouse growing facility… everything starts to grow exponentially faster. And methane gas can be eternally produced by organic waste and your own 💩 and of the mix. So seriously 😐 how fake is the premise for this interveiw? Even in the movies he is claimed to be a controlled opposition (tjeck mil gibsons resume fx) All methane gas (that is produced whether you want it or not from your leftovers/garbage of Living (organically)) when burned is reduced to 1/10th of the “greenhouse effect) .. and on low ground (not airplanes fx) it’s absorbed quickly by plants 🌱 growing directly from it. Burning methane to run electricity generators can run the DeFi crypto verse and if you like… like all the flares from excess harvesting natural gas on the oceans asf.. can drive hydrolysis and produce hydrogen fuel og the leftovers. It’s the biggest curse in human history to repeat the fallacy that methane is bad! Serious WAKE UP ⬆️.. it’s our biggest back into the cycle of organic life that we got. The more methane burned and exhaust to plants and mushrooms the more and bigger fruits and edibles you’ll get. Unfortunately my IP address is known by the system.., and probably almost no one will even receive to read this. So where does that leave you… if You do? Remember no organic life can exist without CO2. It’s the fundamental building block for all plants 🌱 🌳 and what you eat 🍎 🌰

Could you give examples as to which questions he didn’t answer? I’m halfway through and there’s either answers as he understands them or “I cannot answer that” if he doesn’t know. Personally, I have no complaints

[@pa9904]

@ He defends dictators by comparing them to the american system. For him Chavez and Putin are not any different then the capitalist system.

@@pa9904 Comparing them to American examples isn’t defending him, more so pointing out pretty blatant Western hypocricies. Also, would you not want to understand the thought process of your “enemy”? Or are you just here for more “Putin bad” content?

[@pa9904]

@ I understand the difference but i think Oliver Stone picked who he prefers to align his ideology with. He respects power and rejects hypocrisy.

[@hesolex7674]

You are a solid individual. Thank you for your podcast Lex.

[@brankastupar7101]

Lex is super unlikely, man!

[@jonpierson5187]

Oliver Stone is a very intelligent and interesting man.

[@domenicgalata1470]

He did not mention sovereignty for Ukraine. Curious.

[@stevewake6614]

Yes he did.

[@MALEXI10]

He's a soviet romantic. The fact that he's more keen to pick holes in neo-con thinking than that of a bloodthirsty fascist called Putin speaks volumes. That's not to say that western thought shouldn't be criticised.

[@domenicgalata1470]

@@MALEXI10 I wholeheartedly agree. Western Imperialism and it’s consequences should be criticized and exposed to right many wrongs and Stone is correct when he does criticize the western powers. It’s his blind spot and sheer audacity to claim Putin is some benevolent leader being made the villain by the western media is asinine. Shocking actually.

[@chrisrecord5625]

France never actually left NATO, per se. DeGaulle downgraded France's membership in NATO and withdrew France from the U.S.-led military command to pursue an independent defense system. In 2009 France rejoined NATO's military command.

[@starkfaktory6920]

Precisely. There were talks during Jacques Chirac's presidency for a comeback of France to the "integrated commandment" (which implies resuming its annual financial contribution to NATO budget) in the 1990s. Chirac was ready to come back, but he asked for the removal of the US sixth's fleet ships from the Mediterranean sea. The US refused, and thus it was postponed to 2009, four years after Sarkozy succeeded to Chirac.

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

Was it because the CIA tried to kill DeGaulle?

[@datmesay]

Yep, and some French people, count me in, does not see our involvement in the military command as a good thing. There's one country leading the command and all others forced to follow. There are some discrepancies between the Atlantic alliance interests and the UE interests.

[@alexanderpapadopoulos2383]

I thought after Libya France wanted to step down from Nato leading role in Europe or at least not be forced to send troops on "democracy" missions.

[@7KingCobra7]

@@datmesay right, you guys just hide while US AMERICANS pay for and fight for the rest of the world's freedom... all good we got this

[@americanka555]

Thank you for such an amazing interview, it is very inspiring!!!!!

[@whatever-ep5cq]

1:40 "Hitler did not go after Britain when he had France." Yes, he did. The Brits stopped his plan at the Battle of Britain.

[@SnowWhite-dr6xh]

Man this guy has a crush on Putin💞

[@compassioncampaigner728]

Sophomoric and dim

[@SnowWhite-dr6xh]

@@compassioncampaigner728 that’s why all the girls love me

[@basketballforce]

I wonder what would Mr. Stone say nowadays. A discussion between him and Stephen Kotkin would be something spicy to witness eventually. Lex, you or Joe... Make it happen

[@joeholbrook5630]

EXACTLY!!! That was what I was referring to in my second from the top of the page overly lengthy post! Stephen Kotkin has devoted his entire lengthy ‘political history professional career’ to the ‘study of Russian leaders’ and has huge amounts of fact from huge amount of other experts that have ‘much closer long time close associates of Putin and the direct ‘result’ of Putin’s action, not his talk. It sounds it sounds trite, but REAL-TIME “actions speak louder than words”! Stone’s accretions that Putin’s statements, and Stone’s belief that if Putin said it so convincingly, it must be right and therefore all the U.S. intelligence experts were wrong, sounds so similar to former President Trump’s statement at their Helsinki, Finland Summit during the first year of the Trump presidency! For anyone to have an unbiased opinion on Stone interview, it would only be prudent to listen to the same interviewer interview lifelong soviet/Russian leadership expert Stephen Kotkin re: Putin! Additionally, I have witnessed many others that have studied Putin, with all agreeing with Kotkin extremely closely and absolutely none with Stone! Again, Stone is an extremely gifted filmmaker, but we can see what an extraordinarily skilled electric automobile & spacecraft expert can do to destroy a top internet company with Mr. Musk. Being an expert in one field of endeavor does not translate to all other fields of endeavor!!! Again, apologies for my composition and grammatical errors, as it is difficult for me to push a grocery cart and dictate coherently at the same time! Hell, l can’t even chew chewing gum and walk at the same time!😊

[@tomdouglassicks4748]

Of course....Mr. Kotkin would run circles around him of course and Stone would have to have the capacity to listen really listen and be prepared to have to revamp his entire thinking about the Soviet Union...its history and its crimes.

[@marcuslarsson9548]

@@tomdouglassicks4748 lol kotkin is a historian stone is a filmmaker. Put him up against Alexander Mercouris, Mark Sleboda or Brian Berletic and they would absolutely slap him across the room lol

[@MarkoGordi]

@@marcuslarsson9548 -Stephen Kotkin is a populist and defender of America which is not and never was - he is what the fascists were

[@mcheatle8270]

You don’t get what get he is trying to say.

[@felixarmandopaezuscanga4642]

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[@computemusic5905]

you ended up in the wrong comment section ?

[@jozefdubovec200]

Mr.Fridman, way you drive interviews, calm try to understand the issues, present not your ideas, but really, intelligently, polite and also calmly "push" your audience to "think by themselves" is remarkable, no doubt, remarkable

[@rod9829]

It is important to realise that this is Mr. Stone's perspective on the situation, and not necessarily absolute truth with regards the situation in Ukraine.

[@davidminnesota4050]

Yep, he is too comfortable hanging with Putin and his pals. His obit my be: he did some great movies, but then he got fat.

[@Coconautify]

That's quite right, and the great thing about Western democracy is that he has the right to express that opinion, which is a far cry from the authoritarian regime he professes to love.

[@vw6751]

What do you know about authoritarian? Just repeating west propaganda? It would be very democratic if we could hear his and others opinions on main news stations. Alas. We only hear one narrative. Wonder why….

[@Coconautify]

@@vw6751 You can get whatever narrative you want in the West... you only get one in that country - why don't you go live live there if you love it so much.

[@vw6751]

@@Coconautifywhat are you, five years old? That is what little kids do: you don’t like the way I play in this sandbox, go to your own sandbox. You have not learned in kindergarten.

[@zionen01]

I would value the opinion of an average person who has lived in either Russia or one of the other governments mentioned and had to maintain themselves and then lived on the other side over Oliver. It’s very different sir, interacting in presidential offices and being shown the facade, no objective opinion can be formed then. Much respect to Oliver but he seems very far from objectivity.

[@johnoconnor2561]

Your point is well taken, the irony is that LF came to the US via Russia and Ukraine. I don’t understand how he allowed OS to say some of the nonsense he said about Putin etc

[@vadim921]

As a Russian I can assure you that the guy is completely out of touch with reality or is deeply into putins pockets

[@missoliya]

I lived in Russia for a half of my life and then spent the second half in the US, as well as travelling around the world, and I can tell you that I agree with pretty much everything Oliver Stone said. It’s pretty entertaining to watch how western media talks about Russia, its culture and people, with such confidence, when in fact, they have a very limited knowledge of how things are in reality.

[@tg2535]

@@missoliya Thank you for your comment✌️

[@vadim921]

@@missoliya he needs to speak to Ukrainian people about poor misunderstood pootler and how evil west is misrepresenting the glorious Russian world. The majority of criticism towards Russia is completely justified, I say this as someone who has been living in the country for 30 years

[@fabiengerard8142]

Always liked this guy. A profound and a beautiful person, a true citizen of this world of ours.

[@conkshell9445]

THINGS CHANGE IN A YEAR.. WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HIS OPINION AS OF JUNE 2023

[@Remeeeee1]

I am honestly disturbed buy this level of spin from someone I thought had insight. Great interview Lex

[@vatri357]

What do you mean "spin"? Hes telling you what u cant hear on west propaganda media, and you call it SPIN? God damn it... theres no hope for ya...

[@Remeeeee1]

@@vatri357 all the while saying the east propaganda is blown out of proportion, he rolled his eyes over Putin poisoning people among other oversites in Putin's motivation for invading a sovereign country. Get a frigin grip on reality please.

[@cna8689]

"Brzezinski (advisor to the U.S. president) was a Pole. [...] Poland has always been attacking Russia. [...] The two world wars that occupied Russia, tragically - entry points were always through Poland and Ukraine." (22:40) ... what an utterly weird perspective.

[@filmat22]

This is making the whole interview not worth listening to. This guy has absolutely no idea about history. Later on just repeating official russian propaganda. So sad...

[@emjay9688]

Can't agree more! during WWI, Poland didn't even exist as an independent entity (and neither did Ukraine). During WWII, Nazis and Soviets were best buddies until '41 and split Poland together, so when Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, occupied Poland happened to be the territory where the two totalitarian regimes agreed to have border. Stone's phrasing makes it sound like Poland and Ukraine somehow had something to say about where the attack on Russia/Soviet Union was happening from...

[@milesteg8627]

Ironic that Trump gets a pass. I wonder why

[@debauchery715]

Noticed the same but wasn't surprised. Stone is the biggest Russia apologist in the west. Earlier in the pod he said that nuclear is safe (true enough, sure) because only 50 people died in the Chernobyl disaster, which is a hilariously stupid Soviet statistic that is only true in the narrowest possible sense.

[@kmier2000]

Bonkers. Incoherent ramblings at this point. He made some good movies at his time though.

[@starfishw7138]

Nuclear waste issue still unsolved

[@miekfields7115]

As this guy heats up he really shows his extreme political bias.

[@reynemayer2942]

yeah, nothing about Putin using killing 5% of Chechnya's population to cement his rise to power, the rise of oligarchs while Russians still don't have toilets, military adventurism everywhere from Moldova to Georgia, poisoning and imprisoning his enemies, and finally using the war as an excuse to end free press and free speech....

[@troop-r]

"I believe the moment we draw lines between good people and evil people, we lose our ability to see that we are all one people on the most fundamental of ways"

[@cole.alexander]

Stone seemed to back Putin/ Russia more than I would expect. Interesting...

[@margaretklassen172]

That's probably because he has some understanding of the Minsk Agreement, and the history of US reluctance to support.

[@daniel_960_]

You know about his documentary and Putin interview series? The documentary Ukraine on fire, you can find it on rumble. Everywhere else it gets taken down.

[@oldhollywoodbriar]

It’s nice to hear a stable voice on the matter. Oliver knows the facts so he gets it right.

[@peterhardie4151]

Objectivity.

[@donkykon2094]

well he cannot bite the hand that feeds him, he need putin in his future docs

[@editeduque5951]

What a great interview. What an extraordinary man Mr Oliver Stone. Thanks. Shared with so much pride.

[@bruceelniski]

Great interview. Thanks from canada.

[@TheKrankHead]

The interviewer doesn't confront Stone in any way. He just keeps asking new questions.

[@anonymous.youtuber]

That’s the whole point. Don’t interrupt the interviewee and hear him/her out. Discover what’s in there without interrupting the flow. This is what makes Lex such a great interviewer.

[@TheKrankHead]

@@anonymous.youtuber the point is to challenge the person who you interviewing. He doesn't do that at all.

[@triggerwarning5762]

​@@TheKrankHead That's a debate, not an interview.

[@zacattack287]

I really appreciate these long form conversations. You really get to see alot of the person being interviewed.

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

Him calling medvedchuk medvedev is just hilarious

[@mariebukht1554]

Time code?

[@meylinlibertaskeef3346]

one of the best filmmakers, doesn't talk about film lol

[@AdrienDesautels]

So at 1:11:00 he asked about Zelensky fighting for sovereignty and he kind of just brushed it off. Bit weird because it's a very central and powerful argument in 2023. Probably since 1945.

[@captaintight]

he’s way too biased to have an honest discussion

[@Raymoiful]

Zelensky is not fighting for sovereignity. Zelensky is a trapped puppet. You have no idea what is going on here.

[@thegalaxylab]

feel free to explain how "sovereignty" is a blank check license to pursue with impunity any policy that has major implication on the geopolitical level and not provoke a response from other impacted nations? where is that written? sounds like you're describing unilateralism, not sovereignty.

[@MargaritaKatrenko]

He didn't brush it off. He answered plain and simple that you can't be fighting for something you haven't had since 2014. Ukraine lost it's sovereignty the moment it accepted a foreign backed cue. And I'll add even more. What sovereignty you can be fighting for, when all the money you have received for your "fight" you will have to pay with your land, natural resources and public held companies?? You won't have sovereignty, even if you "win" the war.

[@vyhozshu]

@@MargaritaKatrenko and zelenski just announced the sale of what is left of his country to blackr0ck and g0ldman-$achs

[@fruitionapt]

“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.”- Frank Herbert

[@fauxguyfawkes6156]

How to make institutions that are vulnerable to this more stringent on vetting personnel?

[@2Uahoj]

@@fauxguyfawkes6156 Checks and Balances

[@giuseppebonsignori3152]

Mr Oliver i wish this tipe of interview will be tramite in every school in the USA, you are a great man with clear honest thoughts Good bless you ❤

[@alanaadams7440]

What makes Oliver an expert on Russia?

[@juliap172]

And what makes you an expert on Russia?

[@1997CWR]

I appears to me that he applies different standards to America and Putin's Russia.

[@Rohonin]

Yeah, it's really annoying, considering how much I respect Oliver Stone. He hardly criticizes Russia for anything. I get it , US is not perfect. I would still pick getting invaded by the US over Russia any day of the week.

[@nikolaishmelev7837]

And he is right about doing it. Very wise. Bringing American standards to Russia or Russian standards to America is a recipe for disaster.

[@vivianms3721]

Now think about how mainstream American media applies different, sometimes polar-opposite, standards to the US and any other country it sees “unfriendly” or potentially a competitor (hence a “threat”), on a DAILY basis. Then think about how the majority of American people form their world view almost entirely on that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ronin1648]

@@vivianms3721 Putin is unfriendly and a threat to any free thinking Russian

[@lucascqp]

@@Rohonin If you knew how absurd your comment is you wouldn't have posted it. 'US is not perfect' is the most ridiculous understatement i've ever heard, and it could only be uttered by someone who doesn't actually know the history of this young nation. The US has been responsible for more death, destruction and conflict than any other modern nation and the deep-state, CIA and military-industrial complex are rightly considered by most of the world to be completely evil scum. I don't use the word 'evil' here lightly.

[@WhiteSeaLeviathan]

If u wanna see abt Ukraine war see Patrick Lancaster.

[@mikey1836]

I went from (irrationally) disliking Lex to absolutely loving the man within two weeks. His humility, intelligence and grace won me over. My favourite podcaster of all time at this point.

[@theresahanford179]

I completely adore Lex Fridman -- have spent Days listening for every available hour of the days, and cannot Get Enough. Btw, Lex, I give Magnifient Massages. Just FYI.

[@martinda7446]

@@theresahanford179 Theresa, I think I'm smarter and better looking than Lex. What are you doing on Friday?

[@srb998]

​@@martinda7446😂😂

[@songsofalifetime8508]

Important point from Lex,, he doesn't interrupt much, he let his guests talk...

[@user-jx5wl6sw3d]

We all must unerstand real power isn’t just controlling what happens but controlling what people think about what happens.

[@Rabanthebrain]

As a historian Oliver is an enraging person to listen to. What interesting and valid points he makes are layered behind misinformation or even just subtle mistakes of fact

[@WilkinsMichael]

Yes, quite disappointing.

[@johnsometimeswrong8742]

Yes he seems to have drank the cool aid on Putin. His thinking seems very skewed by his genuine issue's with his own country but he seems to ge lost down a rabbit hole of his own making.

[@Lexomm1]

If you had refutations, you would present them.

[@oliverastankovic7009]

I am not sure you know the world history very well. You must see who wrote the books you read.

[@byronhotchkiss3254]

@@oliverastankovic7009 a fact is incontrovertible, no matter the person who wrote it. To take your assertion to its logical conclusion, you would not be able to trust anyone's recollection except for those with *exactly* the same biases as you.

[@trj1442]

Wow, I never realised Oliver Stone wrote Scarface. Another excellent episode Lex.

[@filprocter7318]

Say hello to my little friend

[@davidbanner6230]

Any Western media, or spokes persons are found to have been receiving payments from Russia to sow discontent and undermine Western support for Ukraine, should face trial as traitors when the war in concluded

[@channelname1700]

Different man back then. Now Oliver Stone is a nut.

[@1985truthseeker]

@@channelname1700 Telling truth seems crazy to ignorant

[@channelname1700]

@@1985truthseeker what truth? This interview was just speculation. Point to one part of the interview where Stone give evidence to his claims. You can’t

[@pierresmith5145]

I really appreciate the hell out of this man...Nothing like a honest man. Thank you sir...

[@kaedejohnson5225]

22:50 "Poland has always been attacking Russia... the two world wars that occupied Russia so tragically - entry points were always through Poland and Ukraine." Wow. I think Lex exhales from the comedy right after that statement. Glad I wasn't the only one.

[@garad123456]

Lex just nods for "yes". He is on Russia's side.

[@Bultish]

Yea Oliver seems to have something in his eyes when watching soviet/russia, just ignoring the secret police violations on their own population as if thats ok, thats "their" way of doing things. No that is not right, people under the rule of dictators are hostages, they say and do strange things to not be in the spotlight and risking their lives..

[@yagsipcc287]

There are many hundreds of years and countless wars between Russia and Poland

[@josephgrosso2943]

Whoa...'as far as I remember back to another century' lol...yet many here are somehow saying Stone isn't a crackpot

[@DonTamlin]

It would be great, if director and producer directed and produced instead of showing, that he has zero knowledge about any other world matters, including world's history. Yet he speaks, and shows what moron he is.

[@bubbadoright9271]

Stone describes the hardship of communism and then lashes out against Republicans for seeing communism as an enemy.

[@mySonsNameIsAlsoBort69]

Yeah, but what's your point? The argument can be made that many of the hardships of communism were due to capitalist/conservative nations undermining it...

[@johnsnider8236]

True socialism has never been tried....the mating call of every socialist 🙄

[@theluckycharms81592]

@@johnsnider8236 "marxism is communism is socialism that's why they're all spelled the same way" every ignorant person whose too dumb to know they're ignorant 🤦‍♂️

[@purenkool2011]

Communism is an ideology which does not exist in the real world. Dictatorships of RF by Putin, PRC by Xi, Iran by Khomenei, Syria by Assad, North Korea by Kim are the real threat to our democracy. None of these are “communist” states no matter what propaganda they spout. They rob, enslave their own people and attack their neighbours. These are autocratic totalitarian dictators.

[@GROOT_1984]

Best approach on life terms, great respect for the courage to speak openly! May your years be long and filled with happiness!

[@DubaiShortsChannel]

What a fantastic person. I thought I would listen just a bit and just couldn't stop listening.

[@Kelkschiz]

10:04 "50 people (died) at Chernobyl" I was kinda surprised that you let him get away with that without any pushback.

[@derbigpr500]

There's a difference between people who died AT the Chernobyl plant as opposed to the aftermath.

[@Kelkschiz]

@@derbigpr500 I thought of that. And that may cut some grass in a very narrow sense. However, Mr. Stone was clearly using this figure in a much broader sense, as in he was clearly comparing the total deaths caused by several different methods of electricity generation. And in that context you can't use the figure of 50 deaths at Chernobyl.

[@paulusminor]

Vice verca with the number of civilians killed in Donbass. He puts it, I believe, as high as 14000, though most of these are military from both sides. So when he needs he puts figures as low as possible, in other case exaggerates enormously.

[@glennpeterson1357]

Yes, I thought this was a very obtuse statement and very telling

[@OldTeaMate]

… and no mentioning of the waste.

[@SirOrganic]

Oliver Stone called Ukraine a “Nazi State”. Says it all really.

[@tyronebryant9147]

It’s is lol. Neo- Nazis. Check western facts

[@brandonhopkins1106]

It's bs but yeah. Having a nazi group doesn't mean it's a nazi state. The president is a jew for christ sake. You don't think they have nazis in Russia. Guess they are a nazi state then

[@itr8247]

AZOV.

[@llirman]

he isn't completely off. My family fled the state for that reason to Central Asia and never came back.

[@yuravlog]

@@itr8247 how nazi is that?

[@binniparis8024]

You introduction was moving - may we some how find a path to peace and leave war as a horror in our past. God bless you Lex. Thanks for doing what your doing. Xx

[@ilnigromante666]

Great man and great interview.

[@mariamartin9179]

it was really a privilege to find this interview and to be able to watch many thanks from the Netherlands

[@Max-ww7iz]

Now go to #289

[@hello-mynameis]

hugs and kisses from Italy xo

[@emilyhutjes]

@maria martin: please watch "Ukraine on Fire" by O. Stone on youtube

[@ericanssems6933]

#289 Watch it. Its good

[@fabricesaffre175]

Where do I even begin? I have immense respect for Oliver Stone as a film-maker and as a tireless critic of American and Western imperialism, but why is it that opponents to the latter (Chomsky, Varoufakis, Lula, Stone...) feel obliged to defend the author of the very same crime when it is not the USA? As the Kenyan ambassador to the UN eloquently put it shortly after the invasion began, what Russia is doing in Ukraine is very reminiscent of colonialism. Mr Stone, you praise President Chirac and Chancellor Shröder for condemning the invasion of Iraq by G. W. Bush, and rightly so. Can't you see that when Macron and Scholz denounced Putin's invasion of Ukraine, they were doing precisely the same thing: opposing the aggressor? Your narrative that this is proof of Europe's increased loss of sovereignty since 2003 is not only sloppy but null and void, since it ignores the key factual element: whose territory is being invaded... Similarly, while on the topic of sovereignty, Russia's was not under threat in any way. Its geopolitical status as a superpower was, as it has been steadily losing influence on the global stage since the end of the Cold War (with some exceptions as in the Syrian crisis). No Ukrainian (or German, or Finnish) tank was going to cross the border into Russia and kill Russian citizens. As for the hypothetically imminent attack on the Donbass by Ukrainian forces, need I remind you that these (as well as Crimea) are technically rebel provinces, not sovereign states? Now I happen to have been in favour of the Minsk Accords and some or even total autonomy for these regions (Crimea only became part of Ukraine under Khrushchev and so its return to Russia following the collapse of the USSR does make sense). However, the invasion of Ukraine changed my perspective entirely. At the very least, you should acknowledge that the attack of one sovereign nation by another and the "retaking" of lost provinces are very different matters. On the topic of Mr Putin's intentions and character, I obviously do not have your experience of face-to-face conversation with the man. However, you seem to be deliberately ignoring several aspects of his methods of government. If it is true that his direct commissioning of the poisoning of Sergei Skripal for instance has not been established, you know better than me that this is no argument. By the same logic, you could never prove that Mohammed Bin Salman ordered Jamal Khashoggi's murder. The fact remains that Putin's opponents like Alexei Navalny are in prison following political trials, that Russian media dishes out increasingly blatant propaganda (in comparison, western lies, which of course also abound, are almost cute) and that laws have been passed in Russia to suppress any criticism of the regime. NATO is undoubtedly guilty of many crimes and has been relentlessly pressuring Russia since the nineties, making sure that it could never again threaten US supremacy. Its enlargement may have been a cynical, hypocritical (especially following the reassurances that had been given to Yeltsin on this topic) and even ill-advised policy, but it was by and large victimless. There is a difference between cornering a former enemy, even by means of forming a military alliance against it, and putting boots on the ground. In the latter, people get killed as in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Ukraine... Mr Stone, I would urge you not to choose the wrong side of history on this occasion. Denouncing Russian imperialism doesn't mean condoning that of the US (or other Western powers). In fact, the best you and other Leftist leaders can do is to propose a third way: a humbled Russia, one that has accepted its true status of regional power (like France and Germany have), could become a major player in a revitalised and genuinely sovereign Europe. This I believe is our only hope for the future, one that doesn't confine humanity's choice to the bleak alternative between the capitalist pseudo-democracy of America and the nationalist neo-fascism that has been developing in Russia and China over the last decade.

[@maxovgrom]

Great comment! Thank you!!!

[@nikolaishmelev7837]

The Kenyan ambassador probably needs to educate himself that Russia began as Kievan Rus with the capital in Kiev. The Viking tribe Rus gave its name to the country. If there is colonialism, it must come from the Vikings. Please forward this to the Kenyan ambassador along with my regards.

[@svenhanson398]

@@nikolaishmelev7837 Nah, the Vikings were invited, even asked to rule over the different groups along the rivers that was constantly in war with each other. That is at least according to the chonicles of the monks. And the word Rus is more to do with Men who rows, and not a tribe from Scandinavia. Its basically the same as Viking, which is not a word for a people but for an action, to go viking. And my beginning was a bit ironic, invaders are always invited, always has been, or come to save....

[@brandonmay3094]

@@nikolaishmelev7837 the Kenyan ambassador is nothing more than a coattail rider trying to take advantage of a situation

[@nikolaishmelev7837]

@@svenhanson398 bear in mind that those medieval chronicles were written centuries after and were comissioned by the ruling princes (the Ryuriks) who has to justify the onset of the dynasty. So, i am not sure if we can take the invitation claim seriously. The origin of the word Rus is contested, there are many theories. Naming a tribe or a group of people by their main ativity was quite common. Many Slavic tribes bear such names.

[@incedofortis]

I have watched president Putin as a Polish citizen, watched his speaches and press meetings. I have totally different view than MSN media nad militant nato

[@resonance3486]

Amazing, I listen to this podcast every 3 months :)

[@filippelouch8543]

I'm impressed with Lex Friedman podcasts. There are levels to podcasting and this is the top of the pyramid 👌❤️

[@cspace1234nz]

Yes, he’s a gifted interviewer which appears to be rooted in the idea of humility and that he thinks he’s not a good interviewer

[@channelname1700]

This video made Lex Fridman’s Russian bot audience very happy

[@royale7620]

He looks very dead and soulless, hes like every other corporate, dead inside and just doing his job for the sake of money, no charisma or anything.

[@thedokkodoka4349]

Lex is a total machine made to produce the greatest interviews.

[@annak2575]

I'd love to see another interview now a year later... What a wonderful, thoughtful, talented and highly intelligent man, Mr Oliver Stone.❤

[@SkinnyJoeySollenne]

Great conversation

[@lynne1146]

Lex I feel your guests really warm to you through an interview. You have a great gift and it’s so great to hear you get to the heart of matters because of the trust you build. Really well done.👏🏼👏🏼🙏

[@simeonreynaud7352]

What are you talking about, all I see is someone hating that Putin is a good man

[@tubejay1]

I listened to the whole interview, and I watched Stone's Putin Interviews, and while Stone can sometimes come across as a level headed individual, I always leave feeling that he can't see the world clearly. In my mind, Stone went to Vietnam, and his whole worldview since then has been so twisted by his bad experience there, that he just can't think clearly. I'm not saying Vietnam was a good war. It wasn't. I'm not trying to diminish what happened to him, but sometimes people can be damaged in such a way that they just can't separate truth from fiction. For Stone, his starry eyed take on Putin and Russia, despite the mountains of facts to the contrary, is tough to swallow. His assertion that American and Russian freedom of the press are pretty equal, is complete quackery. Can you say the war in Ukraine is a war without going to jail in Russia, much less on Russian TV? No. I can say whatever I want about America, on TV, anywhere, at any time, and not feel even REMOTELY threatened by the government. His assertion that Ukraine would be "invading" Donbass" by trying to retake the territory Russia invaded them to take away is laughable. The notion that world can't see NATO for what it is, and only HE can see the truth is him questioning the intelligence of every single person who lives in a country that is part of NATO. That said, we agree on nuclear energy, very strongly, but after hearing his take on Russia, Ukraine, NATO, the USA, and so on, I better go look at it again.

[@rosvall216]

Well said..

[@196adityabhargava]

@@joannewilson6577 whole of west has block RT . Journalism is too much for west ?

[@jam199716]

I agree he has a definite bias. He really hates US imperialism. And as a result he doesn’t address the sins of Russia. At the same time however the anti Russia pro US view is everywhere, without counter balance. I think some counter balance is healthy for discussion.

[@jam199716]

@@frankbutcher2601 I’m not understanding your point, what do you mean?

[@heidigone]

This was really good!

[@DADO-zc6dm]

Great interwiew .BOTH OF YOU ARE GREAT. THANK YOU. IT WAS PLEASURE WACHING IT.

[@LukeDupin]

Thank you for bringing up France and Germany. I point out this case study every time the green energy conversation crops up.

[@MathieuDuponchelle]

@@cneuhauser1 deservedly so, on account of them starting two wars WITH THE WORLD

[@kwanarchive]

@@MathieuDuponchelle They blamed Germany for WWI, but anyone who's studied it will understand that Germany was just scapegoated for it. The bloody thing started in Eastern Europe. Germany is only responsible for starting WWII. But unlike the Japanese, they've apologized for it, and they've made Nazism and Holocaust denial illegal. Germany today is not a threat.

[@tarakmaammar214]

@@MathieuDuponchelle are you really sure about that though ?

[@Dan-sw8tg]

@@MathieuDuponchelle how did my country start World War 1? Care to explain?

[@MathieuDuponchelle]

@@Dan-sw8tg Formally, Germany did declare war first. My comment was however a Norm MacDonald reference so just chill your horses you misguided patriot.