Normal Not Normal - Mara Wilson

Few people know more about growing up in the limelight than our first guest, Mara Wilson.
Mara starred in the ‘90s blockbusters Mrs Doubtfire, Miracle on 34th Street and Matilda... all before the age of ten.
But when you’ve grown up meeting the Queen and going to parties at Danny DeVito’s house, is it possible to have a ‘normal’ adult life?
Find out how Mara’s parents kept her grounded, how she coped with OCD after the loss of her mother and which Harry Potter actor Mara swears is her double.
In this episode we discuss mental health struggles. There’s no shame in asking for help.
Mara supports these charities:
The International OCD Foundation iocdf.org/
Okay to Say www.okaytosay....
Project UROK projecturok.org/
Girls Write Now www.girlswrite...
Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.
Produced by Alice Homewood.
Video edited by Oliver Phelps
Music 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund.

[@melanielazaro7673]

not even a minute and a half in and oliver lowkey attacked james with the “i’m not the one with a child’s toy in the background” 😭

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Yes he does. A soccer ball!

[@paulineborda1868]

That's exactly what I thought 😂😭

[@berililgi4828]

which minute???

[@iamnotacabinet2284]

we’re off to a good start😭😂

[@chrishill4553]

I read that as they said that lmaooooo 😂😂🤣

[@biancarojas3301]

James: I hate that drum Oliver: Proudly shows the drum*

[@prashasti28]

Having ✨siblings✨ be like

[@sammanthamarquez9419]

that fact that not even 5 minutes in Oliver starts his rant and ruins James jupiter and saturn fact 😭

[@reesedubose9107]

I know I love it 🥺😭😭

[@lyamangasimova2917]

EXACTLY AHAHHHAH

[@julietramp3507]

And James looks so annoyed by the interruption

[@djaniradarocha7411]

@@At-cn8nf 2:58

[@nellyjohansson7431]

I like that James has a child’s toy in the background and Oliver has a Harry Potter poster

[@celine7050]

Me too

[@Historygeek2006]

James: nononono THAT is not a child’s toy you have to be at least 14 to use that one

[@rosaliewithsomeletters]

You spoke of my room

[@rubyririe6329]

One has legos and the other has a drum 😛

[@angelicavegasanchez8211]

@@rubyririe6329 and a football just vibing in the background

[@delilahw868]

Oliver wakes up and chooses violence everyday and it’s hilarious 😂

[@chrishill4553]

Violence, chaos, and hilariousity. (It’s not a words, but it is now.)

[@pinja7734]

Well who doesn’t 🙄😙

[@johanna3112]

And we love him all the more for it hahaha

[@beckyriley580]

I feel like the fanbase is all lowkey scared of Oliver 😭

[@maddie8013]

DHRHB IS THIS THE COMMENT HE MENTIONED ON THE NEWESG ONE

[@abby8158]

I swear oliver wakes up every single morning and just chooses absolute ✨CHAOS✨

[@flob5572]

chooses TO RANT

[@abby8158]

@@flob5572 so true lol😭😂

[@angelicavegasanchez8211]

@@flob5572 and chooses to almost rant about that he never rants

[@baiqnayara1517]

I love how they finish eachother's sentence's like Fred and george

[@moodybash7334]

I think every twins do that, don't they?

[@julisadekeijzer4717]

Me to

[@Lyliume_]

Yes I love fread and george they are my favorite characters in harry potter

[@charmi839]

Yeah❤️.

[@irishleprechaun6489]

Yus yus yus

[@zuzi9323]

“i play hide and seek with my dog” James Phelps~ 2021

[@krakenzombie1212]

JAJAJAJAJ i nees to try this with mines

[@Emmysn0w]

Oliver looks so unimpressed

[@poma6391]

JAJAJAJAJAJA

[@poma6391]

PLS

[@lolaabrahams4055]

oliver: we never dress alike also them literally wearing the same thing

[@valeriag9443]

That’s so true but also I think the difference in them is how they style them

[@planet.piastri]

how does everyone get profile pictures like this?? i love them

[@cee5442]

@@planet.piastri they just take a picture and draw the lines then color it inside

[@lolaabrahams4055]

@@planet.piastri i just looked up fred and george stickers and went onto images and screen shot it !!

[@mirirodriguez3919]

I love your profile pic. How u do that?

[@jallenaa8551]

I would like to thank James’ wife for telling him to show someone else his memes

[@Adri-ss1dz]

Wait - he has a wife why did i plan my whole life woth him or fred 😭🤚🔫

[@gabypena9362]

@@Adri-ss1dz James is Fred Lmfaoo

[@nashcash2770]

Honestly tho, I have saved the majority of them because they are quite funny

[@katarinastikovic7014]

@@Adri-ss1dz well at least, Fred has no wife 🤷‍♀️

[@tessa739]

@@katarinastikovic7014 but Fred has no life

[@saraahlgarcia6880]

HAHAHAHA OLIVER LOOKS SO OFFENDED WHEN JAMES SAID HIS RANTS WOILD STILL BE THERE ANAH

[@nifflerdraws992]

Omg yes it was so hilarious

[@irishleprechaun6489]

Ikr he's like Bruh

[@aspenlou230]

That initial breath of just pure offended-ness😂😂

[@saraahlgarcia6880]

@@aspenlou230 HAHHA

[@shammaalmansoori9767]

“can you shut up with that drum” DHJDNDNS

[@lunadevon252]

I felt sad...

[@angelicavegasanchez8211]

Oliver lowkey looked sad in the beging bc james said something about oliver's drum

[@caroib9498]

minute????

[@mathgeek5698]

@@caroib9498 10:33

[@charmi839]

Can we just appreciate the fact that it's free and you don't have to take KZbin premium membership for this?

[@Justcallmezlata]

yeah we don’t deserve them

[@megangiron1903]

Yes! I am so grateful for it 🥺

[@daniellebourgeois6139]

It’s so refreshing getting to listen to them talk for free for hours on end

[@vanessa-ki6nt]

FR😩😩

[@badobsession28]

Yes!!😍

[@chrishill4553]

“What is normal?” Normal is blinking, James. Oliver, normal is not banging a drum every 2 seconds.

[@npiro111]

Charlotte Hill the fact that james hardly blinks kills me 😭

[@ivyd.oliveira]

omg james really doesn't blink

[@demimckenna1032]

he actually worries me bahaha hes just staring into your soul im like JAMES BLINK ONCE PLSSSS

[@anyawx6812]

leave the man alone 😭🖐🏻

[@weasley2o13]

Normal is also copy-pasting the comment above you, apparently.

[@emjayee4185]

“i’m not the one with a child’s toy in the background” - Oliver WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING HIM ALREADY AND THE VIDEO BARELY STARTED💀😭YALL ARE TOO MUCH

[@nifflerdraws992]

He was just being funny as usual

[@norsyawanasalim4250]

Oliver like to make fun of James🤣🤣🤣

[@lunadevon252]

James attack first

[@nifflerdraws992]

@@lunadevon252 frl

[@miledith555]

But he is the one banging the tiny drum, interrupting his brother 😂 They are both kids

[@user-fh5xt8hh5y]

the 13 dislikes are bill,charlie,percy,ron,ginny,arthur,molly,harry,lee,angelina,neville,hermione and dumbledore messing with the twins

[@ghadasaadi1307]

lee jordan too

[@user-fh5xt8hh5y]

@@ghadasaadi1307 yus 😂

[@louisexo3944]

I CACKLED

[@lifeofalexis8509]

Harris R is dead u dumbooo, but yea ur righttt rest in paradise to Alan R and Harris R :)

[@catherinedennis7249]

Oliver almost went on a rant about how he doesn’t rant 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@daniellegallardo8669]

LMAOOO

[@haydee6631]

I SWEAR

[@kerttukaroliina9343]

PLS

[@chrishill4553]

✋😂

[@adnabesic4762]

I love how James is just like 👁👄👁. And Oliver is like: 🥁👹

[@kai-kq4fd]

oliver: " OLA 👹" mom im scared, pick me up

[@jennatrail5991]

He says it so angrily😭

[@liyana7852]

HEHEHEHEHEH

[@margo5907]

LMFAOOOO

[@margo5907]

UR PFP TGOUGH6WJ2BEIEND

[@judyhany3169]

Everyone : what are fred and George doing alone at 3 am in the common room Fred and George in the common room :

[@nraelynn7]

Yep pretending to be the muggles Oliver and James Phelps

[@유나-c7r]

AHAHAHAHAH

[@olivia-xr1dt]

james and oliver phelps single handedly starting 2021 on a high note- let’s hope it stays that way 🤍🤍

[@kinamaree75]

^

[@lamiee24]

^

[@camille4k]

james and oliver: we dont talk about politics or religions mara: Yeah so everyone was gay and buddhist

[@caseadyeehaws5679]

omg i was thinking the same thing. their faces were just 😯😯

[@avlgbq2177]

Wait what religion are they in?

[@angelicavegasanchez8211]

@@avlgbq2177 they may not be in one

[@avlgbq2177]

@@angelicavegasanchez8211 so they are a atheist?

[@melorakraemer7008]

@@avlgbq2177 no they could be agnostic. Which means that they don’t know if there is a god or not and don’t have interest in finding out. An atheist doesn’t believe in god nor jesus.

[@lolaabrahams4055]

james: whats normal? me: normal is blinking

[@haydee6631]

pls😭😭✋🏼

[@aoibhinheffron7742]

AHHAHAHAAHHA

[@juju-ls6fq]

PLEASEEEE-

[@liyana7852]

BYEEE

[@youdontknowme4031]

HAHSHAHAVAVA

[@millipearce]

I just realised that Oliver’s got a picture of him and James as fred and George on his wall behind him🥺❤️

[@lyamangasimova2917]

oh it’s so cuuute✨👄✨

[@forbidnmelon1171]

james: what is normal anyways ?! me: normals not a thing *begins crying*

[@read-ig1gx]

“You said-“ “You said!”

[@vicky_icky.]

Nobody... Literally nobody... me: *cleans whole room whilst listening to the podcast*

[@alanatwilite5971]

GIRL LITERALLY ME

[@chloe-ls7tu]

SAME

[@caledoniamahon8047]

I wrote my goals for 2021 while listening to this...!

[@solhernandez3]

111 likes....

[@ashadamson8741]

ME TOO

[@kaylajane7865]

OLLIE GETTING UPSET ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO BANG THE DRUM WHILE JAMES IS TALKING GIVES ME LIFE

[@reesedubose9107]

HE LOOKED SO SAD 🥺🥺😭

[@sophiaarmijo935]

@@reesedubose9107 I KNOW MADE ME SAD😭

[@stranger2278]

why is it always like this lmfaoo 😭💀 oliver: *rants james: 👁👁

[@krakenzombie1212]

James: *breath* / Oliver: shut tf up! / jajajajaj zd

[@rogertaylorsrealcar]

ME COUNTING HOW MANY TIMES JAMES BLINKS 👁👄👁

[@rubywhite7997]

Fr dhjdjjd he never blinks😭

[@rogertaylorsrealcar]

@@rubywhite7997 EXACTLY

[@nikolacini78]

his blinking more often this season tho 👀👀

[@rogertaylorsrealcar]

@@nikolacini78Yeah

[@danahkirsten976]

He’s finally blinking mor than 3 times

[@PhelpsAdore]

James: “Alexa buy 1000 packerclips” Oliver: “Alexa order 200 litres of milk” Me: are you both ok?

[@bhavyagroup8497]

These two are the people from our maths problems. BUYING 1000 PAPERCLIPS

[@PhelpsAdore]

@@bhavyagroup8497 LITERALLY LMAO

[@cavitiorism9133]

Oliver always looks so mildly pissed off at james and i love it sm

[@abbie5741]

“can you shut up with that drum.” alskdkfk oh james- 😭😂🤚

[@loralei8028]

Its so embarrassing how much i get excited when i got the notification

[@judith119]

same 🥲

[@chrishill4553]

Me too and I oop

[@giuliannaloza7649]

SAMEHAHAHAVS-

[@cheesemctail610]

Same

[@mehreenkhan6976]

James: “did you know elephant is the only animal with 4 knees” :o “Did you know elephant is the only mammal that cannot jump” :O Meanwhile Oliver: “did you know an elephant can die from a broken heart” ._.

[@issa5536]

When Oliver started talking about rhythm I just KNEW he was going to take out his drum

[@pelotudashit5669]

oliver:i’m not the one with a child’s toy in the background also oliver: gets sad because his brother doesn’t let him play the drum

[@storm.loves.reading]

Who else almost freaked out when they saw this in their descriptions because they were so excited?

[@cyndiharris4679]

NOT OLIVER BEEPING OUT COVID BYE-

[@emmamac14]

HAHA “Don’t worry Oliver’s rants will still be here”

[@taylormoren3798]

Oliver: “hang on hang on” *bangs drum* James: 🙂

[@jaderivera7441]

GUYS HE STILL PLAYING HIS DRUM 🥁!!

[@wavysole9302]

James should interrupt Oliver's drumming to get back at him for interrupting his Did you Knows

[@voodooluck]

this is more important than new years right now 😌

[@spidermonkeyyyy]

Malfoy???

[@voodooluck]

@@spidermonkeyyyy Ahhh Granger, so lovely to hear from you again, can you tell i'm being sarcastic 😏.

[@spidermonkeyyyy]

@@voodooluck Umm you're always sarcastic so like yeah I think you are being sarcastic

[@spidermonkeyyyy]

@Gianna Rose was I talking to you?

[@tomf4307]

You cannot be Real I am the real draco I am old and your young which is impossible

[@leefelixsegg2666]

My volume: *at full volume* Oliver: HOLAAA

[@mayleameredith106]

It would be really cool if they had Rupert on here

[@evielouise718]

YESSSS

[@bellafrancos]

I would love that!

[@mayleameredith106]

@@bellafrancos right!

[@유나-c7r]

YAAAAS

[@manahildanish613]

Are we seriously not going to talk about James' hedgehog mug

[@elizabethdietter1722]

I KNOW!!! i paused it and i was like...wait...is that....HEDGEHOGS ON HIS MUG!?

[@kit8024]

Manahil Danish YES THANK YOU I SMILED SO MUCH WHEN I SAW HIS LOVE FOR HEDGEHOGS IS THE CUTEST

[@godsspecialchild86]

What?! How did I miss that? I'll to re-watch it now! :)

[@grak2895]

james loves his hedgehogs

[@celine7050]

when??

[@Lili-gu2te]

James is like 👁👄👁 the whole time she’s talking! So sweet!

[@Natalie-yq4yg]

Imagine they get tiktok just to try it and they immediately see a thirst trap of Fred or George

[@vectorohyeahhhh9534]

Omg that would be so halerious 🤣🤣

[@ellamcen]

If they get Tiktok you best bet I'm deleting every comment I made on that app 🕳🏃‍♀️

[@kaylaart9932]

I love how this was just uploaded in New Year’s Day 😭🥰

[@mandypriore]

AT ONE O' CLOCK IN THE DANG MORNING.

[@kaylaart9932]

@@mandypriore lucky for them some of us don’t sleep 😭

[@mandypriore]

@@kaylaart9932 yup. I'm a night owl.

[@celine7050]

Good way to start the year

[@Keara23]

Does Oliver just wake up and choose violence towards James every morning 😂😂😂😭😭😭

[@krakenzombie1212]

Im the youngest of 3 brothers jajajaj i can tell you that this is ALWAYS jajaja

[@Keara23]

@@krakenzombie1212 ahaha I had a twin brother of my own and he was the same always finding a way to annoy me 😂😂😂

[@krakenzombie1212]

@@Keara23 its their way to show us love(? Ajjajaja 😆😆 (sorry my english)

[@Keara23]

@@krakenzombie1212 I guess it is 😂😂 ( your English is great) 💖

[@melissamurray8307]

Yes, as the older brother it his duty.

[@cadenfrattaroli4059]

not Oliver attacking james in the first 2 mins😂😂

[@byannesofie]

Oliver: I'm not a saint. WELL YOU'RE SAINTLIKE BECAUSE YOU'RE HOLEY

[@kayliparra]

It may be 1 in the morning but I'm here I'm here I'm also watching this while watching a james phelps movies l

[@Julia-qj8ry]

SAME

[@mandypriore]

have you watched The Turn?

[@kayliparra]

@@mandypriore no i haven't

[@kayliparra]

@NUR ANIS ALLIEYNA BINTI MOHD ZAMRI Moe cadia: the world within

[@desireehenley2415]

Have you seen patchwork?

[@demimckenna1032]

BAHAH OLIVER REALLY WAKES UP EVERYDAY AND CHOOSES VIOLENCE

[@Natalie-fw3xv]

James really hates that drum🏃‍♀️

[@erinoriel7826]

Not sure if u notice but for me james looks like british version of pewdiepie

[@batavriea]

@@erinoriel7826 I don't know what to say, but it's lowkey accurate and it's scary

[@maddyvisintainer3046]

oliver: “i don’t rant that much” also oliver: goes on a rant not even 10 seconds later

[@jordinsmith3923]

i am shifting. for them. that’s it. that’s the comment

[@shelbyshackleton2466]

Same just them

[@anadeoliveira265]

bro what if they see this comment??? they’re gonna be like, “huh? that’s a little too much for me thank you very much “

[@shelbyshackleton2466]

@@anadeoliveira265 yesss Im scared they are gonna find out about it research then freak out😂haha

[@iamnotacabinet2284]

this is a really weird comment to leave for them

[@harosyie]

not this comment under their official acc 😭😂

[@klutzytaz3551]

10:42 James looks so genuinely irritated when oli keeps cutting him off every two seconds 😂

[@camari4president828]

i’ve been waiting TOO LONG for this lol

[@rachelramirez4000]

Same!

[@mirirodriguez3919]

Yes me too

[@phxntom_ghxul]

Not Oliver ranting about people walking past him whilst he's washing his car😭

[@leilonyy4726]

the fact that they uploaded this on new years i’m- they’re starting 2021 off the right way

[@phxntom_ghxul]

Not even 10 minutes in and James' is already talking about the Jupiter and Saturn alignment✋

[@emjayee4185]

32:43 THIS STORY GOT ME CRYINGGGGG- I GOT SECOND HAND EMBARRASSMENT JUST LISTENING TO ITTT😭😭

[@haydee6631]

IT SENT ME✋🏼

[@emjayee4185]

@@haydee6631 he was like “no❤️luv, shoulda been here earlier smh” LIKE WELCOME BACK TO ME SCREAMING KABDKWSKWVSKSBSK

[@haydee6631]

OMG YESS

[@savannah8296]

JAMES PLAYING WITH HIS DOG IS THE CUTEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD AND MADE MY 2021 OMG ADORABLE 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@bridjetteguijosa7383]

I’m not the one with a child’s toy🤣🤣🤣

[@lilyhutchison3425]

james and oliver: everyones normal is different me: my normal is watch weasley tik toks...

[@mirirodriguez3919]

Yeeesss me too

[@adriparnapaul5794]

SORRY BUT I LITERALLY CRIIIEEEDDDD... WHEN JAMES SAID NAMASTE.... I'm still shaking.....I've been trying to convey this message since the last podcast ended that please include namaste in your list... I did msg them bt didn't know whether it actually reached them... I'm so thankful... It really made my whole year... I love you both from the bottom of my hearts... 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺... Love from all over india

[@rosaliewithsomeletters]

I pay more attention in this than a whole year at school lol 😂

[@olivia-xr1dt]

SO SO HAPPY U GUYS ARE STARTING UP UR PODCAST AGAIN. THEY ALWAYS MAKE MY DAY

[@chrisisom8550]

Same! I have waited over a month for this!! :)

[@sophiaarmijo935]

I love how Oliver kept annoying James with the drum😭

[@isabellaa649]

OMG GORL I LITTEARLY DROPPED MY PLATE WHEN I SAW THE NOTIFICATION

[@mandypriore]

same girl.

[@rosaliewithsomeletters]

I spilled my cereal :)

[@ghadasaadi1307]

I spit out my gum

[@chrishill4553]

*Stop. Just imagine this. HOW BEAUTIFUL WILL THEIR CHILDREN BE*

[@Headbanger142]

Fred, George AND Matilda! 2021 is off to a great start already!

[@emjayee4185]

DID OLIVER JUST DO AN AMERICAN ACCENT AT THE END-

[@Andrea95270]

HOW IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

[@hannastigendal2726]

”Flaa” lmaoooo

[@malakaneesmohsin4952]

😂😂😂😂

[@jheymeeviankalee6435]

Poor Oliver can't use his drum because James hates it lmao

[@kilimlicenciada5946]

1:32:13 when they say "we did yeah" at the same time I'm dead 🥴

[@millipearce]

James long hair = gof Fred weasley

[@miriam1846]

James showing memes to his wife and his wife telling him to stop is literally me showing memes to my sister. Poor James... I feel you man... i love them btw

[@maddieheu2001]

starting 2021 watching normal not normal i can tell this is already going to be a good year

[@mandypriore]

thats me.

[@cyndiharris4679]

Oliver: we’re not getting into politics Also Oliver: HOWEVER

[@miyo33]

2:15 Oliver: you mentioned a swear word Me: Let's just call it 'you know who'

[@i_am_a_pig_oink_oink3829]

*you know what

[@mayjunejuly]

Mara Wilson is such an intelligent and interesting woman, I grew up watching her films like most people and it’s so incredible to get her perspective on things. I really enjoyed this episode! Loving the new season.

[@LiLi-zd2yz]

Same, she inspired me so much until.... i guess until i grew up😅 and hearing her again was just an amazing throwback!

[@bridgettebazin641]

They say at the end of the episode that they feel like they've known Mara, have been friends with her for years, because she's just so easy to talk to and I totally get that. She has such a great understanding of herself

[@nadanaylarachman9113]

When James says "Salam", my heart goes on😄😄😄

[@ghadasaadi1307]

James talking arabic is my new daily boost of serotonin

[@tyonnasutton9149]

Oliver choses ✨ V I O L E N C E ✨ every day he wakes up 😭❤️ .

[@isabellapietramala1329]

The memes James has is the first thing I check when I go on insta tbh

[@VannessHazelGracePOksok]

6:12 Oliver shushing James I-💀🤣🤣

[@kynsweasley-garfield691]

when your best friend lives with 12+ cats a dog and in a farm house like oliver *jealousy*

[@kynsweasley-garfield691]

melanie gara omg hi!!!

[@amandaluk1587]

I love that James had started interrupting Oliver’s rants and giving a little bit of sass back to Oliver. It’s my new favorite thing

[@moony9330]

PLS OLIVER YOUR SO AGGRESSIVE BAHWJSJJD

[@itsmadison9860]

James was so close of coming to Oliver’s house to smash that drum. 😂

[@melissamurray8307]

Maybe some day he would.

[@marleylol234]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE TURNNIT UP

[@vicky_icky.]

FR

[@chloezie]

i swear oliver loves his drum more than anything

[@animal.crackers]

I love the fact that I'm starting 2021 by watching their podcast

[@urgirlmerve522]

James lowkey looks fed up of Oliver 😭✋🏽 he’s like not again

[@nikki5633]

"i'm not the one with the child's toy int the backround" BHAHHAHAHAHAH I CAN'T WITH THE MAN-

[@PhelpsAdore]

1:43:10 the voice Oliver does 😳 love it

[@chrishill4553]

10:47 Poor Oliver, he looks so sad when he couldn’t bang his drum. 😂😂😭

[@vanessahermosillo4444]

James: *laughs* that’s not a child’s toy you have to be at least 14” I LAUGHED SO HARD!!!

[@chrissiraab4203]

James:“Oliver’s rants are still gonna be here” Oliver: 😤😠

[@victoriaderose7531]

*When James said wife* Me: 💀😭💀😭💀😭

[@samvoss6697]

Lucky lady

[@sanniiii4]

he did not 😃😃😃😃😃

[@reginasantos428]

Grow up