OLTYX AND THE RUIN OF THE ITHAKAS DYNASTY | Warhammer 40k Lore

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The Ithakas Dynasty are a Dynasty of the Necrons. It is in the terminal stages of decline and the Dynasty is currently facing annihilation, at the hands of an Ork invasion.
Oltyx is a disgraced Necron Lord, who is forced to return to his Dynasty in order to bring word of an Ork invasion. This forces him to return to the very court that cast him out, but when Oltyx arrives there, the Lord discovers the Orks are the least of the horrors he will face.

[@hashirobaka4586]

Oltyx is such a Necron he has petty conflicts with himself.

[@suncore65]

It’s reminding me of the Toy Maker from Spy Kids, with all the different versions of him

[@suncore65]

@@akumaking1 That works too, although it didn’t come to mind

[@95keat]

I wish they hadn't put the minds in the scarab, it was alot more fun when they were all bantering inside his head.

[@navitgator16]

The Infinite and The Divine gets you to enjoy Necrons as a faction. Twice Dead King makes you root for them to rule the Galaxy and be left alone because they've suffered enough.

[@TheKingsPride]

The part where Oltyx has to experience life as a base warrior really makes me sad for the whole species. “After all, had he ever asked a warrior?”

[@thenerfkid9228]

I think necrons shouldn't, well not imotek anyway, maybe if the silent king was fully in charge I would be cool with it

[@thetrashmammal7389]

Maybe not the whole galaxy. An ideal galaxy (not very realistic) would be the other factions teaming up to fight the nids/chaos, and then sectioning off the galaxy equally.

[@DrBoofenstein]

Bricky needs to watch dororo

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Flayed Ones should be an entire faction, like how Tyranids and GSC are both Great Devourer. Imagined Flayed-Oneified necron units entirely.

[@taurock96]

-Oltyx has multiple quirky AIs in his head, one of them is a doggo -Saying "poop" is sentenced to death -A necron overheat so much he starts burning shit on him -A necron monologues to a dead ork while poking him with a stick "This book is a tragedy"

[@Lightscribe225]

It's a tragedy for the Ogryn. He is forced to fight in a gladiator arena, sees the dead humans and goes into a rage at his dead friends. The necron he is fighting does not understand why the ogryn's face suddenly becomes wet or why liquid spills from its eyes, and dismisses it as he kills the ogryn.

[@epicwaba6424]

@@Lightscribe225 I thought it was a particularly emotional Space Marine. But an Ogryn makes much more sense.

[@baconpantsable]

This book also said Trans Rights Robots

[@Vanq22114]

@@baconpantsable Damn right

[@Si_Sireeni]

@@baconpantsable you're goddamn right

[@chancesloan901]

Honestly when Oltyx gets hugged by his old master Djoseras and his immortals glow with the engravings of their stories......that stuff got me good and honestly made me truly love this book.

[@kyriansalvar247]

And brother

[@theless-than-goodhunter7019]

@@kyriansalvar247 definitely

[@noahkenney2202]

Oltex is honestly one of the most human characters in 40k, incredibly well written!

[@Adeptusridiculous]

@@iainmcdonald9032 WATCH THE EPISODE

[@noahkenney2202]

@@Adeptusridiculous ty

[@catneko6855]

IRONIC

[@gunterthekaiser6190]

@@akumaking1 Sure, they can also just give GW all their money to save time on the lawsuit.

[@steweygrrr]

@@gunterthekaiser6190 Legally DIstinct Deadbots Black Widow™

[@Centurian128]

A very important point I want to add to Djoseras's last stand: his final words and the battlecry that led the charge of him and his Immortals was "Remember Us!"

[@cindermoth3421]

I just love the fact there's now a Necron vessel flying around with a giant golden Aquilla on it. That just sounds like something that would cause so much confusion if not outrage.

[@TheGallantDrake]

What's even funnier is how it becomes a plot point in Reign...

[@nanotheawsome3277]

One of my favorite lines in the book was when Oltyx was in the conversation with Zandrek, and his thought about Oberon is “at least he only has to deal with this old fool for rest of his short life” and I just had to go “yikes, that didn’t age well”

[@cryamistellimek9184]

Did it not age well because he became immortal? Or was this after they became necrons.

[@TheExostranger.]

@@cryamistellimek9184 yes

[@pifilixxiv3192]

@@cryamistellimek9184 it didn't age well either way

[@Bluecho4]

One of the things I like about Oltyx is his capacity for empathy. He can be ruthless when he needs to be, and has nothing but contempt for organics. But whenever he's really mad at someone, he just as often has his rage dissipate when he actually confronts that person and learns their situation. And, obviously, he cared a lot about the needless waste of -human- Necrontyr life, not just as a pragmatic matter but for its own sake. Indeed, a major theme of the novel is the tension between the ruthlessness expected of him as a royal, and his essential compassion and desire for positive change.

[@Ocara115]

I'm convinced that Bricky secretly loves anime and is desperately trying to convince us he doesn't

[@cvangemon1307]

There is more to japan than just anime. Get real.

[@side-beeetaloniswolfwolfac4179]

He really hates animé, but I'll admit that it is a funny idea.

[@jogl.8595]

I think the saddest part is, that Unas desecrated and ate, the founder of the Dynasty, which was an *intakt* fully *preserved* Necrontyr body/mummy. In infinite and the Divine it was said, to be a key to return to flesh body's. I was like: " wtf did he do?! No he did not?!"

[@ethanhall2655]

The whole plot of Infinite and Divine was finding a preserved Necrontyr, and you’re telling me this knuckle-dragger ATE one? Trayzin is seething rn.

[@jogl.8595]

@@ethanhall2655 he even wore his face on his mask for shits and giggles, which made the whole thing even more depressing. I think Trazyin would be even more furious than Oltyx was, but because he ruined a priceless artifact

[@woojichoi8536]

I think the big thing about the body in the Infinite and the Divine is that particular body was immune to the space cancer.

[@ethanhall2655]

@@woojichoi8536 True, but the bigger issue is having no genetic material whatsoever to work with.

[@jogl.8595]

@@woojichoi8536 I think having even the possibility to return to flesh, with or with out the space cancer, is almost the same as they can find a way to cure it probably. Still better than no genetic material i gues

[@schwarzaj]

Fun fact about the 416 ships; those are the ones that they deem to be actual combat ships. They don't even bother numbering the support ships.

[@devineveraert796]

They were pretty upfront with the family relations, I don’t see it as a reveal at all. When Djoseras calls oltyx brother towards the end it hits hard not because you’re just realizing they’re related, but because oltyx is realizing his brother cared for him the whole time.

[@brutalusgaming8809]

Yeah, you are right, it was clear throughout they were brothers.

[@InquisitorThomas]

Yeah I think the confusion is because of the ceremony and rigidly hierarchical nature of the Necron where Djoseras and Oltyx are a Higher Ranking Lord and Lower Ranking Lord first and brothers second, also Oltyx was being a petulant man child who convinced himself that Djoseras hated him and Djoseras who did legitimately love Oltyx was kinda awkward because they hadn’t been on speaking terms in 300 years.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

That is honestly so amazing how they portrayed the Imperium. Instead of as a dying empire, or weak corpse worshippers, or as ignorant Monkeigh, there portrayed THE dominant force, capable of unleashing untold destruction, and waging war on planetary scale. It's super cool, and it convinced me I need this book in my personal Library.

[@utes5532]

Well TO BE FAIR, the humans were only a concern because they were a relatively massive force attacking a bumfuck, undersupplied exile planet in a minor dynasty whose leader has gone completely insane. They reached the crown world with practically zero resistance.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

@@utes5532 I know, circumstance, but it is still super cool to see.

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

two gods died the destroyer curse is similar to the flayer curse, its just more subtle its symptoms are extreme nihilism, they remain mostly saneish by focusing on the one thing they can still understand and treasure, destruction they abandon their shape and mind to perfect annihilation

[@Rhysman30]

Yeah, and like the flayed ones their bodies morph to take on the form. I loved that they went into how necrodermis works. It's like real flesh, just metal.

[@stakefr0mjatefarmvods534]

Here's the thing; we only have confirmation of one Ctan full on dying. Destroying a Ctan changes reality on a baseline level, that's why they were all sharded instead of killed like The Flayer. Assuming this was done after The Flayer's death, it leads one to think of just how bad this Ctan was to have it killed rather than sharded

[@xanderlee51]

Twice-Dead King: Ruin was one of my favorite books ever, not just in Warhammer. Admittedly, my love of the Tachyon Arrow may have influenced my decision.

[@doctorbag2982]

Same here, if I am honest.

[@TheNaturalnuke]

“Patience.”

[@doctorbag2982]

@@TheNaturalnuke My man.

[@Candymanic]

Best. Brother. Ever.

[@blugill2273]

so next book the reign?

[@TunnelDragon44]

I love how the Dysphorakh is basically the necron psychological horror version of "Breathing switched to manual" or "your tongue is always uncomfortable" or "you can see your nose now"

[@Trombi01]

remember to blink!

[@TunnelDragon44]

@@Trombi01 oh shit

[@yurianonio9410]

It seems a lot like a robot version of body dysmorphia

[@benjamintherogue2421]

@@yurianonio9410 So a mental illness that drives you to do insane things?

[@yurianonio9410]

@@benjamintherogue2421 nop, dysmorphia does not relate to doing insane things my guy, it is more a sensation that your body is not the way it is supposed to be, like, your brain will just keep telling you that there is something wrong making you fell awful and it can cause anexiety and panic atacks sometimes. And it's something that can happen for a lot of things like losing a limb, gaining or losing weight or, you know, having all your living tissue replaced by mechanical parts

[@thewolftamer6601]

Honestly Oltek and his subminds made me think of the Epsilon AI/Church in Red vs Blue during the later seasons, where he had recreations of all the other AIs to help him

[@dragonllig790]

An unexpected but apt comparison

[@YoBen100]

When meeting Unnas, his father. Oltyx couldn't look at his father's face at first but when he did, he saw a Necrontyr's leather face attached to Unnas's metal plate. The leathery face originally from the first founder of dynasty which everyone consider death penalty just by visiting the tomb even for the royal line. At that moment is where Oltyx decided to kill his father for his treachery.

[@95keat]

Strategic even tried hiding it from Oltyx so he couldn't see it, and when he does see it I believe he shrieks in disgust and terror

[@the_mad_fool]

@@95keat It's so bad he actually freezes up in horror for a time, as the founder is SO sacred it's a great sin to even look upon his body.

[@warrenmason1582]

Plus the imagery that goes with it, an emaciated metallic frame with a hanging belly draped in flayed skin and crusted in gunk with flies. Plus his necrodermis started to grow around the mask making it permanently attached. It is honestly a grotesque image when I picture it

[@tanksinatra3968]

Not only you get blood angels and bad ass brother at end damn well overtime here i come

[@mybroski664]

spoilers :(

[@Hyena776595]

I know its not by choice, but the silent reactions of Shy are truly what make this show for me xD when they mention the Gaz book at the beginning i died at her reaction

[@brotherkhrayn3525]

Fucking same! I was looking for someone to mention that!

[@seanpeacock4290]

This makes me happier than a necromancer in a natural history museum.

[@pathfindersavant3988]

"You could make a Flayed One army!" I mean, an army inspired by the Drazak Bone Kingdom from the Ghoul Stars would be pretty cool. Heck, having an entire set miniatures based on the different factions over in the Ghoul Stars would be pretty rad.

[@griffinflyer77]

Can’t believe you didn’t bring up that the necron were so terrified they considered trying to negotiate with the IoM

[@sookendestroy1]

Man that description of the biotransference sounds like it suggests things about how the viruses started. The people being carted into the furnaces while affected by their disease, sick, dying, dead and starving. Sounds a lot like the maladies of the Necrons, consuming flesh, wanting to wipe out life, breaking down from the inside. Its really tragic of the Necrons that they became machines to run from their frail bodies only for the same afflictions to just come back in a new form.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

It also makes you hate the old ones, think about watching a race just die, refusing to guide them or help them in anyway, watching these people suffer so badly, to point that, giving up their bodies was seen has the best cure. The old ones could have help them, could have change them, could have guide them to a better future, instead they never even bothered with "lesser races". Does not mean necrons are saints, far from it, but it does mean old ones got what they deserved.

[@the_mad_fool]

@@Fourtytwo4242 I mean, to be fair it's not like the Necrontyr were going extinct. They just had short lifespans, lifespans which they themselves fully had the power to extend. The nobles had access to healthcare and technology to prolong their lives, they just treated the commoners like dirt and didn't share their wealth. We don't know the Old Ones' motives, but I'm reminded of a lot of real world autocracies, where you have to be really careful when trying to provide charity to them. If you're not, all your good will just lines the pockets of those in power, while the common people only wind up further under the boot of their oppressors.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

@@the_mad_fool Nobles mostly could extend their lives for 2 years at most. That not a lot of time, yeah more then most necrontyr, but that still only 2 years, along with the pure agony of living through it has the cancer takes over. It like saying "yes it true that you must sleep on bed of spikes but pay only 5 million and you get a bed of spikes with a pillow." Not counting old ones created life from nothing, saying they could not make a cure that only works for lesser classes and not the nobles is just a lie. Truth is old ones just did not care because why would they, they are legit gods now, what a few cancer monkeys going to do to them?

[@the_mad_fool]

​@@Fourtytwo4242 So, this is a part that Bricky misremembered. In the book they said that they could extend life by as many as *two score* years, not two years. So they did have the technology to substantially increase their lifespan, they just restricted it to the nobility. And let's try not to make too many assumptions about the Old Ones, a race which, let's face it, we know almost nothing about. Sure, it's entirely possible that you are 100% correct, and they refused out of arrogance and apathy. But it's also possible they had other reasons to refuse. We don't actually know *anything* about the Old Ones; not their psychology, their society, nor the limits of their power. It's entirely possible (even likely) that their power has been exaggerated and distorted by millions of years of memory telephone. One of the major themes of this book, even, is the subjectivity of memory, and how badly they get distorted by our minds over time. After millions of years, it's entirely unlikely that even those who personally knew the Old Ones can accurately remember them as they truly were.

[@exzyyd392]

@@the_mad_fool They could extend their lives but there is literally no point as it would be better to die. Oltyx was literally in line to become Dynast and even he was dying by the time biotransference took place and had been extremely sick multiple times before that.

[@skaut_games7644]

I think Space Cancer necrons had was so ingrained in their genome it was like noble lip No matter if they left their system it would stay with them unless they would introduce new genome into themselfs and seeing as all necrons hailed from same planet they would have to interbreed with other race to rid themselfs of it

[@randomlygeneratedname]

According to the 5th ed codex that is the case

[@cryamistellimek9184]

I heard somebody mention how the cancer had a warp component to it, which made it impossible to cure given how they didn’t have psychic tech. The fact all of them were cynical and called their worlds tombworlds reinforced the issue.

[@bocholotthethird3159]

noble lip?

[@UltimaOmega777]

@@bocholotthethird3159 I assume noble lip is similar or refering to a genetic defect that affects certain bloodlines and families. Like hemophilia with the british royals or habsburg jaw for spanish and hungarian royals

[@bocholotthethird3159]

@@UltimaOmega777 Ahhh

[@TheHarimir]

may i point out that oltyx is so far the only necron to ever do something close-ish to reproduction? the submind scarab is basikly its own person

[@kallemort]

The Necrons are stuck in their ways, and seemingly afraid of their own AI. They could probably make more of themselves by copying minds into new Warrior bodies or use larger amounts of more intelligent Canoptek constructs, but such things would be a major cultural taboo.

[@TheHarimir]

@@kallemort SPOILER for bok 2: i resently started book 2 and it apears the crypt-tech witch created the subminds comes from an order witch did exaktly that. it has yet to go annyvere at the point im at in the book thoue

[@dracomon4682]

@@TheHarimir sPoilers: Mentep created oltyx's subminds as a better version of what Xott has, a copy of himself

[@TheHarimir]

@@dracomon4682 it is setanly not a foolproof method but take subminds from a few necrons and mix em together in 1 new body. maybe just maybe you end upp with something not quite the same as a new necron but far more simmular than a wraith-construkt or "disgusting organic thing"

[@burnin8able]

what DK said about flayed ones making for a good horror shooter is a great idea. Something like Alien: Isolation with a stranded squad of Imperial Guard or something trying to escape a tomb world that is now waking up or something

[@johnwright9425]

Yeah when he said that, i got a dead space image in my head, that last mechanicus skittari trying to escape a tomb world infested with flayed ones, even the dismemberment mechanic would play well on the elongated slender forms of flayed ones and the necrons relentless undaunted persuit (plus a game where resurrecting enemies makes some sense instead of a lazy mechanic)

[@burnin8able]

@@johnwright9425 shit, you're right. Hell, could even be a pseudo-sequel to the Mechanicus game. The expeditionary fleet bails after getting what they came for, but accidentally leaves some troops behind who have to figure out their own way home

[@NathanMarcusSPhua]

Lorewise, unless those guardsman are named, they would be dead. For increase chance of survival, assuming this would be a 4 player game, this team would need a Cadian, a Catachan Jungle fighter, a Krieger, and a Tempestus Scion, and again unless they got names, I don't like their odds.

[@kallemort]

Imagine trying to escape Canoptek Wraiths when they start phasing through the floor and grab at your ankles.

[@thenerfkid9228]

@@NathanMarcusSPhua I mean, catachan heavy weapons guy, Krieger is a melee specialist, cadian well rounded and scion is marksmen

[@AsbestosMuffins]

I love the master of monoliths, gifted a massive army of monoliths by the silent king himself, then fearful, he locked them away in a pocket dimension, then forgot the combo. so there's just an entire necron army made of their more powerful weapons, sitting useless in a pocket dimension nobody can open

[@InquisitorThomas]

And I love the fact that he doesn’t he remember he doesn’t have the combo anymore, and nobody including the Nihilistic Death Cult and the Psychopathic Assassin that murdered his entire family just don’t have the heart to tell him that he doesn’t have access to the monoliths anymore.

[@caav56]

@@InquisitorThomas And then, right as *Akrops* is about to be finished, he finally remembers the combination and deploys Monoliths, which serve as an ablative armor to protect the ship.

[@boredcryptek5513]

The Tachyon Arrow was around before the new Overlord it was just limited specifically to Anrakyr the Traveler as a unique weapon he gets. He still has it but as you know it freaking terrible and only a relic makes it somewhat usable since it guarantees the 6dmg but like is it worth the hoops at that point? No...

[@Lomhow]

The ORB must be pondered

[@cryamistellimek9184]

I’m a massive imperial player, but the Tachyon arrow is a massive disservice to the necrons. It shouldn’t be a sure hit, but it should definitely kill whatever it happens to it. Will it hit that imperator class titan? Maybe not. Will it kill it if it does? Yes.

[@The.Orange.Wizard]

@@cryamistellimek9184 While I agree it deserves a buff, should a 130 point model be able to OHKO a 5500 point one with 120 wounds? God no.

[@Trynt33]

@@The.Orange.Wizard It'd be really funny to see happen during a tournament, it's like the Chaos Confetti in MTG

[@The.Orange.Wizard]

@@Trynt33 Imagine the Titan legion players face, losing 5500 point mode and the tournament in one move.

[@perihelion1225]

Love Oltyx as a character. Couldn’t wait to hear you two talk about his dynasty!

[@theodorehodbor5080]

50:58 One thing I find kinda terrifying is after Oltyx is basically rendered down into a warrior himself he realized this could actually be what all warriors experience. The only people who ever told him warriors were mindless were just other nobles who likely didn't care, he never thought to ask an actual warrior if they were mindless at all.

[@davisdf3064]

The worst part is that they probably are still just as conscious as he is, but they are never asked about it, thus can't talk, not only that, but they probably can't even express how horrible it sometimes can be

[@cvangemon1307]

​@@davisdf3064 The old codex's describe them as not being smart enough to process what's happened/happening to them, as if they weren't made with enough storage to keep anything pre-biotransference. In modern lore they still can't do much without being specifically instructed by other necrons, so it seems they're basically lobotomised (hopefully).

[@davisdf3064]

@@cvangemon1307 If that is the case, then they probably can't save their people through new biological bodies, because they would just be shells without brains. Wich would mean they are doomed after all.

[@jarlathquinn2628]

@@cvangemon1307so servitors in all but name

[@Shippo89]

One of my favorite depictions of Flayed Ones comes from "The World Engine". Lightning fast movement from shadow to shadow, stalking prey from every angle. When they attack, the blades are so sharp that one of the Space Marines doesn't even realize he's been injured until he nearly collapses in a pool of his own blood. Final moments being confronted by the cut and stretched face of his squad Sergeant as the Flayed Ones and Wraiths move in.

[@georgemiller2129]

Yeah, the deathmark can do that because he technically outranks Oltyx. So it's a bit of a joke to Oltyx's exile, while also being part of the deathmarks punishment that he has to watch a kid be in charge.

[@georgemiller2129]

Which is also why Oltyx never orders the deathmark around. He can't.

[@Basically_Anybody]

Considering that multiple factions that obsess over skin collection, someone at GW should be on a watchlist after writing this lore.

[@Trynt33]

They'd get along well with the Skin Bandits from Kenshi "Hello fellow human! Can I borrow some of your skin? Just a smidge."

[@floridamanwentwild4411]

Oh bricky something that when you mentioned the flayed ones hunger it reminded me of the old greek myth of king Erysichthon who he fucked up and Demeter cursed him with a never ending hunger to the point that he could eat a cow and still be skin and bones looking like he is at the verge of starvation who gave his money, his land, his crown, and sold his daughter into slavery for food and when his daughter escaped slavery by help of the gods he ate her and the gods got even more pissed and made his hunger worse to the point where he died eating himself

[@SuperHalofan64]

I dont recall her actually being eaten, at least not when I read about the myth generally. IIRC, she kept getting freed by the help of the gods and went back to him, who promptly sold her again. After a few more times, she straight up left, leaving her dad to shake his fist at the gods in anger... only to then eat himself starting with his hands once he noticed that he was essentially made of meat.

[@brotherkhrayn3525]

Jesus Christ…..

[@floridamanwentwild4411]

@@SuperHalofan64 you might be right though the idea is with greek records there are a lot of retellings like the one with tantlus and his son but the one I heard was she was turned into a mule by posiden to escape her captors and she wanted to see her father and tell him that if he would admit his mistake and say hes sorry when he saw the mule he he intently knew it was his little girl and he ate her (now two of the biggest taboos of ancient Greece was cannibalism and killing family and this man did both) and this pissed off zeus who mad his hunger even worse then what it was but on the bright side the gods did make her soul into a butterfly

[@Lotan_]

Fun fact, the Tachyon Arrow actually got nerfed. When it was first introduced it's stats were Strength 10, AP 1, (the highest they could be at the time) and it didn't have D6 damage.

[@xbleaksquidx]

I was watching Doom Patrol and there's a scene where Cliff is trying to eat a brain while in his robot body and so he was just kinda smooshing it onto his face, and I immediately thought of the flayed ones

[@TRAVISHOWRYMUSIC]

Me too lol

[@bthsr7113]

Dafuq!?

[@johnoneil9188]

I am reading The Infinite and the Divine right now and it really made me warm up to the necrons as actual characters to stell stories about.

[@xanderjames3374]

SPOILERS Honestly, having Oltex kill his father and having the command protocols transfer to him was the most brutal way to convey Djoseras's death. Amazing writing

[@X3105i]

Agreed

[@Lazysupermutant]

Also how intentionally anti-climactic and unsatisfying it was, cause in Ultyx's he had been bulding the thing up in his head with speeches and justifications and hate, but in the end he jus uncerimoniously stepped on him like a bug. The phrase "I got everything I ever wanted, And I've never felt so cold." Sums up Ruin so we'll.

[@exzyyd392]

The fact that he couldn't help but fall to his knees and even the sub minds didn't stop him is what got me. They physically stopped him from looking back when he was running away but even they just fell silent for a moment after Oltyx came to the realization.

[@imtoogoodatpvp1252]

Loved Djoseras real fast

[@henrywhitmore8344]

This is the coolest thumbnail yet for me and I didn’t even know the flayers are from a fallen dynasty I thought you could be of any dynasty and one day your just “I want skin now I don’t know why but I do”

[@Jadfisk]

the flayers are infected by the flayer virus. The book goes heavily in depth on it and explains it incredibly well........ flayers are horrifying

[@henrywhitmore8344]

@@Jadfisk yeah I just thought it was just a virus that Necrons need to avoid which I bet it is but I’m assuming this episode is like a introduction to the flayed virus because of this dynasty falling to it I’m assuming again I have no clue about flayers really excited 😆

[@yugonostalgia8961]

No - any necron can get the flayer virus - it's because the Dynast Unnas of the Ithikas dynasty was one of the ppl who killed the C'Tan - so his dynasty and all the others that went into the Solar gate became riddled with the Curse

[@yugonostalgia8961]

@@henrywhitmore8344 remember how the Flayed One King spoke of eating gods? It's because they consumed the C'Tan and were cursed in return

[@johnwright9425]

I had similar thoughts to DK on the dysphorakh. It seemed to me that the idea was there that if you got lost in it you would start off becoming a flayed one (trying to wear skin to stop the attack of not having skin etc) but whats happening to the razor does make you think otherwise too. But agreed one of the best books ive read

[@Kaboom0]

There can be multiple paths to the same destination

[@eiriksundby]

I'm super happy that bricky responded to my reccomendation of this book. I was really wanting to hear his and DK's thoughts on it

[@agentmaine4746]

The fact I got so emotionally invested in the egypt terminators and this book made me sad was not expected, but I loved every second of it.

[@Lotan_]

Human sacrifices didn't actually happen much in ancient Egypt. During the First Dynasty the sacrifice of servants when a Pharaoh died was a thing, so that they could serve them in the Afterlife, possibly voluntarily by drug overdose and such. However, that tradition only lasted about 300 years and after that point there's little evidence to prove it continued beyond that point. The practice of human sacrifice is much more prevelant in the pyramid building civilisations of Mesoamerica. Also, in reference to the Necrontyr's hyper cancer, I think it's a case where they spent so long under the C'tan destabilized sun of their homeworld that their physiology became horrifically mutated and degraded. So it didn't really matter when they left for other planets, because the damage had been done.

[@ashleyford8050]

52:22 as someone who has regular panic attacks, yes, that is almost exactly what it is like. Just missing the whole tears, snot and the inability to think straight.

[@Rhysman30]

This book was beyond awesome. My favorite yet for any race, any time period. The reveal of the human fleet was soooo good. I think I remember it went something like, "A prow broke through the cloud... upon it was a golden two-headed bird of prey, wings splayed out as if to attack. The sigil of the Emperor of Mankind". I legit felt like squealing.

[@couchpotato5592]

Immortals starts shining Blood Angels: MY EYES!!!!!

[@aconcernedcommissar6261]

another fun thing with the Nemessor Zandrekh cameo Oltex and Obreyon just share a "too old for this shit" look which made me laugh

[@AsbestosMuffins]

I liked all the scenes with olytix and the flayed ones, they treat him like their king offering meat to him, and drawing glyphs on him. This is such a great take

[@chocolateskull6239]

I don't know what it is about GW and making characters that are basically Buffalo Bill, when the ancient terminator alien robots and the heretic space marines both crave scrotes, I start to think that GW just has a thing for scrote-based-apparel

[@chocolateskull6239]

Damn this ones doing numbers

[@doomguy19931]

@@chocolateskull6239 on everybody

[@burningbronze7555]

any one else just love those strange tech openings and what a whole video of it?

[@Bananwaffles]

One thing I love about your Wednesday releases is that Wednesday is like the worst day of the week and this totally makes something to look forward to on Wednesdays also released on my birthday yo

[@Vintagegaston]

For some reason the ending reminds me of the ending of Thor: Ragnarok. With Oltyx sitting on the throne flanked by survivors and exiles

[@Hexsyn]

I maintain that the ending of Infinite and the Divine is like giving 6 Chekov's guns to a hexmark destroyer.

[@pekoe9059]

I haven't read the book and I was wondering this entire episode how Unnas would live up to his mythological name. The I went to the comment section and someone mentioned that he committed a great treason and defiled the tomb of the Dynasty's founder, wearing their skin as a mask. Now I understand that GW put some thought into the name. For those not in the know of Egyptian mythology or aren't fans of Death Metal, Unas is a figure in Egyptian mythology who slaughtered many gods and ate their entrails to attain godhood himself (if I recall correctly that's roughly the summary).

[@jennydeath6844]

I listened to the book the other week for the book club and I can't wait for the next in the series. Happy to see the big man get his own regular lore vid

[@Enigmaessence]

Bricky don't get my hopes up, a Character Deathmark would be the coolest thing ever.

[@henrywhitmore8344]

I actually just got my Mcfarlane Necron Flayer figure a few days ago.. he's sitting on top of my Xbox in the fetal position getting kicked by 2 sororitias's one from our martyred lady and one of the bloody rose and a blood Angel aiming a plasma destroyer at him it's great!! (the figurines are super good quality currently trying to get my hands on a Necron warrior and a few orks like the techboys and a raven guard figurine)

[@Nomand55]

The fact that the dynasty is named Ithakas and they go on an odyssey is great.

[@MLGHazrad]

This is a really good book. Usually it is the Imperium who gets overrun by other factions but they are terrifying. When does the book take place? It seems just massive size of the Imperium army is where the Indominous Crusade is taking place.

[@frankficcle7081]

If I'm not mistaken they said that Blood angles and War hounds where working together, which makes this story pre-heresy. So it probably takes place during the great crusade.

[@the_mad_fool]

@@frankficcle7081 The Warhound titans are still available to the Imperium now, and the Necrons hadn't woken yet back then. Also, they mention that the Emperor is on the Golden Throne so definitely not The Great Crusade.

[@frankficcle7081]

@@the_mad_fool Oh, then maybe it is the Indominus Crusade.

[@RapidFyrez]

400 ships is nothing for the Imperium. Keep in mind they have tens of if not hundreds of thousands of ships spread across millions of worlds. Launching multiple massive crusades is just the standard operating procedure for them. It's just that there is so much territory to cover and so many threats that even hundreds of thousands of ships aren't enough to keep the nasties out.

[@benjamintherogue2421]

@@RapidFyrez The funny thing is their backlog on ships they need to build to replace their losses is as great if not greater than the entirety of all of their active duty ships in the Imperium right now.

[@PingachuWarham]

For a race that lost their souls the necrons sure know how to make one feel a lot of emotions.

[@Lightscribe225]

That's one of the greatest ironies of 40k. It's the souless alien robots that feel the most human.

[@cjmarion6350]

they talk about how the necrons can overheat themselves to a point of immediately evaporating spit and stuff, now im just imagining a necron cooking itself to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit and just picking someone up by the throat and how fucking terrible that would feel

[@lliamdavis6950]

Man, I really didn't know Necrons were this interesting. Really cool, thanks for enlightening me!

[@vulkan4108]

Another spooky scary episode on Necrons, and as interesting as always

[@brotherkhrayn3525]

Lord Vulcan! You live!

[@thien0300]

They be stealing ur shit from ur sons tho.

[@calebgrant5636]

"Patience." PUT ME IN THE FURNACE, NOW.

[@bootlegcrusader1773]

I listened to Twice dead king like last week, perfect timing, also easily one of the best books

[@eldunae922]

Bricky should read Severed. Also from Crowley. (It was the first good necron book) For what this video says some of the ideas severed played with are fully developed in Ruin.

[@MrKOLCOO]

I like imaginery idea of flayed ones disguising themselves as blood angels XD they would fit in XD

[@95keat]

My favorite part of the book it that there weren't any human characters that we read about from the crusade fleet. No wasted time like with the mechanicus characters in the Brutal Cunnin book

[@Brutalyte616]

*_"To those who have denied us. To those who have denied me. I will wreak vengeance. I will wrench your souls and break your bones. I will cast hunger through your accursed existence._* *_Down the eons, you will not forget. I will grant you this gift from love turned aside and make you like me, break you in my image as you have broken me. I shall cast the fear of myself into you and all of your kind. I am Llandu’gor. I am the hunger. I am the Flayer, and from this moment, you shall be too."_* Love this bit...

[@john-marccartagenas6706]

Imperium as the crushing antagonists sounds awesome. Will definitely read this in the future just to see all these great details in action.

[@teal_m_101]

I hope this will be more light-hearted than the previous episode.

[@boredcryptek5513]

I mean previous episode was bad but this story is definitely a tragedy.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

wish granted,

[@trazyntheinfinitearchivist7866]

Ha. No

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@@trazyntheinfinitearchivist7866 it was but only barely, it fumbled over the low bar

[@conquerthevoid9932]

Boy these flayer guys would have loved the Demonculbasa for all the free skin. Also I am permanantly skarred, And dont know to blame DKs curiosity or my own

[@twilightgryphon]

New poster: The grain master shouting "I demand to be taken seriously!" and for some reason they're also a necron who has abs because fucking hell, why not? :P

[@Polex411]

as a caner survivor with anxiety issues its pretty much exactly what you descripted but keep in mind that lungs, heart, mouth parts each last for what seem like hours before you mind movies on to the next point.

[@reddrick1987]

I love the narration in this episode. Everyone really drives home the point that the Necrons are a very sad people that did what they felt they had to do. Beautiful job Bricky, DK, and Shy.

[@anungunrama9344]

it kind of sucks that i cant watch the episode without getting spoiled, now i have tow wait till next week

[@Brutalyte616]

Imagine a Skorpekh Lord coming down with the Flayer Virus...

[@lilyeves892]

I'll always remember an apocalypse game I had where I fired a tachyon arrow at a baneblade 12 foot down the board from my units and it went apocalyptic and all but wiped out the entire flank. It was a really fun game

[@williamwhittington6038]

“D6 DAMAGE MY ASS!” I’m dying XD

[@joshuadeeses1424]

You forgot when they left they ripped the front of the ship that chained them and the head stuck to the ship like a claimed trophy. That was badass.

[@averym.8910]

I spent the whole entire day listening to this audiobook. I just finished it, and I did not expect a warhammer novel to give me the feels. It's a great book and I'm so glad it got to have a full-lengthed episode on this amazing podcast.

[@azathoththe3rd]

Had anyone seen the ending of Midnight Mass? Cause I imagine that's what it was like when the Necrontyr were running for the soul furnace. Singing praise to their gods for those who make it and sorrow for those who fall. Edit: Added some more

[@laughingmask3118]

52:15 that's exactly what a panic attack is like

[@ethangraham4040]

I hope we get a space wolves video soon just to see Bricky rip on Leman Russ for 5 minutes straight

[@yugonostalgia8961]

Love this episode so much! Watched it 4x by now. One thing never mentioned is that the cursed Dynast Unnas was implied to be among the ones who killed the C'Tan - and passed on the Flayed One curse to the whole dynasty - the others dynasties who participated already fell

[@TheKingsPride]

I believe that the Necrontyr suffered from super-cancer even after leaving their home system because evolving on their planet made their dna faulty and prone to cancers, which was why Nepareth was so exceptional. He was believed to have pure dna.

[@dephonnelzy5536]

I never thought I would see a 'i have no mouth and I must scream' reference in this, but it's good to know that it's a story bricky knows

[@InquisitorKryptman]

DK: well why don't any necrons have khopesh swords? Yenekh: I gotcha bro

[@nathanbowd6728]

Oltex's subminds should argue like Bakarina's mind in My Net Life as a Villainess.

[@BIOTREX]

So basically that Star God did the Black Rage to the necrons.

[@Misadventures_85]

the screenshot of the Nerd Crew immediately elevates this episode to a 100/10

[@schizosamurai8840]

Disphorax(I guess thats how its spelled) really does feel like a panic attack, it just goes "oh fuck Fuck FUck FUCK FUUCK" and you cant do shit about it, unless you devolp some metholodogy, and even then its hella hard. At least thats how the book described it as and thats how panic attack feels like, at least for me.

[@tenkora1]

Bricky just missing the brother thing thinking it was a reveal is great.

[@crushersbutlessedgynow]

Man, I was really hoping for an episode specifically on the flayed ones, this is cool too though I guess

[@thesirboo112]

I honestly think if Djoseras was more obsessed with keeping his honor which also kept his mine from deteriorating remember he wasn't actually cleaning them as much as carving their stories into their necro dermis.

[@MrSamulai]

Meanwhile, somewhere in Solemnace: "The restoration work has been successful, for the most part. Such a shame I couldn't save the original face, but I have enough unhinged peers after me as is."

[@tdyret]

Great episode! and can i just say, i heckin' love the intro and outro music, always jamming to it. Its awesome!

[@candacebedard35]

Just finished, wow. Was not prepared for the emotional master that is Nate Crowley. Cried my way through parts that I didnt think would affect me like that. Also, fantastic descriptions of Flayed ones, and almost panic inducing moments of claustrophobia. Loved it.

[@MeredithLikely]

I used the tachyon arrow back in seventh edition! It's got a ten foot range, so it feels like it's meant to snipe a titan or something in an apocolypse game mode. Maybe a court of nobles all running arrows would be funny to fight a titan lmao.

[@Alertacobra12]

I was so full of work less than 24h ago so I couldn't watch the new adeptus ridiculous episode ... then I got a headache and have Covid. Pros: Time to watch Adeptus Ridiculous Cons: damn my head hurts