Olympic Arms' OA-98 AR Pistol - A Strange Product of the AWB

[@braedengriffiths4249]

I came here because Ian said “They skeletonized the bejesus out of everything.” I was not let down.

[@k9techku]

SAME, my GOD that is one very naked gun.

[@iliekfish6837]

Same bro

[@aaronbalchand5475]

That thing needs a little BACKBONE Get it? Backbone? Skeletonised?

[@bharatroy764]

987y

[@AnimeFan_2013]

Hahahaha

[@XaviarJS]

For a small mom & pop company they are very innovative company. When I was younger I use to work there and I'm proud to own a few 93's & 98's ...

[@millsniper]

Olympic Arms isn't that small. It cracks me up when people talk crap about their AR's and make comments like "get a Colt" these people should do their research before they run their mouths seeing that OA often makes uppers and lowers for Colt and many other companies.

[@jimbotheassclown]

Their cast $300 plinkers back in the day is why people still talk shit becuse they were garage . But any $300 AR 15 was going to be garbage no way around it . They can make a very good rifle but only takes one turd to ruin a reputation especially if a Cheap basterd thinks he got robbed on a gun that at the time was around $1,100 every where else but the $300 one the bought was crap i know who could've seen that coming but they will never shut up about it. It was a bad decision on oly's part to sell that one shit gun .

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Allan Ragnarson why are you a prick?

[@rashadpreston7389]

Which do you prefer?

[@DB-yj3qc]

@@jimbotheassclown Kinda funny that at one point AMU used their rifle barrels and recommend them for accuracy. To the point of it was in the Army Marksman manual by name.🤔 Not a combat quality rifle but for accuracy target shooting and prairie dog shooting they was great. My "cheap" 11.5 barrel one I was shooting bowling pins at 300 yards in 1988 pissing off the M1A and M1 Garand comp. shooters

[@freefieldtraining]

Looks like something kel-tec would make if plastic had never been invented. Lol

[@leonbode1748]

I just stumbled over the PLR-16 by KelTec and behold it looks almost the same. just stupid

[@BlastinRope]

Why do you hate guns?

[@leonbode1748]

@@BlastinRope me or OP?

[@leonbode1748]

@@BlastinRope I meant stupid more in a sense of "what a funny coincidence"

[@BlastinRope]

@@leonbode1748 I took it as if you hate kel tec, some people do because of the plasticy bits but find me another company making fun/weird guns at affordable prices.

[@talesofshatou]

"Nobody was interested in buying that because it was stupid". That's a pretty succinct appraisal.

[@TheRogueWolf]

I started laughing out loud when Ian mentioned the non-detachable 10-round magazine that you had to disassemble the weapon to reload. Yeah, that's SUPER useful in a firefight.

[@brendanh8978]

overthejames - made me think of Bushmaster's Carbon 15 they were selling in California with a sealed mag well with a ten round internal mag. I want an AR then, but not that much.

[@ellemnist]

pfft, like people buy guns exclusively for firefights. Its stupid because its not user friendly.

[@rickautry2759]

One of those technical terms not applied nearly often enough .

[@bastiaan0741]

succint = concise, short, brief, compact, condensed, crisp, laconic, terse, tight, to the point, economic, pithy, thumbnail, summary, short and sweet, in a few well-chosen words, compendious, epigrammatic, synoptic, aphoristic, gnomic.

[@thewizard7780]

"How do we reduce the weight?" *"H O L E S"*

[@douglasgoodwon8227]

Someone call Mike, we found proof of his theory. Zach isn't going to be happy about this.

[@actualperson1971]

Old school cyclists: "First time?"

[@gus.smedstad]

Speed holes. They make the gun go faster.

[@artemefimov8215]

@@douglasgoodwon8227 weird is cool 😎

[@EnderLord007]

This entire thing is an absurdity, from the legislation to the workarounds of the legislation.

[@M_White_VA]

What's wrong with the workaround?

[@eliack95]

The idea of a workaround even being allowed is ridiculous. It's like they know they aren't saving any lives but are limiting capabilities anyway. In the hands of some deranged asshole, this thing isn't killing even one less person than a version with "assault pistol" capabilities.

[@Giganfan2k1]

Now a days they would just make it out of carbon fiber. I would be interested in that feasibility.

[@brudibrudi9237]

And as always laws do bullshit.

[@gerretoutdoors3710]

@@bobthecannibal1 this was the most beautiful thing I have seen today. Thank you sir. I award you 100 internet points.

[@davidherbst]

Gun banners have spurred a lot of engineering creativity. And humor. Years ago, I bought a Taurus M607 from a friend who was moving to California. He couldn't take it with him because the ported section at the end of the barrel was unrifled. Apparently, California considers that setup an "integral flash hider", which is on the banned features list. Essentially, they had classified an otherwise mundane revolver as an "assault weapon".

[@ThatBethesdaGuy]

David Herbst Sounds like bs

[@SgtKOnyx]

Deep South because it fell directly from the cow's tuchas

[@davidherbst]

I have to hold my hand up there. As the years pass, I have wondered if he had received bad advice, or had himself misread the law. I suppose I should start adding all the necessary disclaimers when relating this story. The sense of plausibility it invokes, though, really encapsulates the silly caprice by which such rules are made.

[@therideneverends1697]

To be frank, a revolver is innocent enough looking that i doubt anyone would give him trouble, also muzzle breaks are legal in CA. Now where you get into debates is stuff like the A2 muzzle devise which is a break that also supresses flash. Hence why on some websites you see it sold as a break and on some as a flash hider, basically so if someone in cali got harrased over it they could hold up a recipt. worth the risk? thats for the individual to decide

[@angrydragonslayer]

Andre Krumins do you mean muzzle brake?

[@JesseWrangell]

I need one. It looks perfect for defeating rebel scum.

[@foobar201]

Without a stock? They might hit air and giggle wildly, but that's about it.

[@tutes0133]

E-11 and DLT-19 Heavy Blaster are all ya need mate

[@DearDantalion]

Stormtrooper cant go wrong with a westar e-33

[@MrDgwphotos]

Yeah, it struck me as looking like something I would see in Star Wars, too.

[@CallieYote]

You are mistaken, this is the most common weapon for rebels to use in ambush missions, perfect for bypassing the white plastoid armor of the fascist empire.

[@TonboIV]

On a related note, AR-15 pistols are actually very important here in Canada. We have a magazine restriction of 5 rounds for rifles and 10 for 'commonly available' pistols. It's actually the magazines themselves that are prohibited, regardless of what gun you use them with, which creates an interesting possibility. AR-15 pistols are common enough that we can buy 10 round magazines for them, so every gun store in the country has piles of AR-15 pistol magazines, but almost no AR-15 pistols. There must be thousands of times more AR-15 pistol magazines than there are AR-15 pistols in this country.

[@JohnG1000]

AR -15 pistol mags and rifle mags are the same thing . No difference . Just same old AR - 15 magazine.

[@geremysorlinigiguere9535]

@@JohnG1000 That's their point though. They're functionnally the same. Only, since these were built for a "Pistol", they are, legally speaking, considered pistol magazines and therefor legal. Nothing stops you from putting it in any rifle that's compatible with a stanag. The ban concerns the magazine itself and not the weapon, so once you get ahold of the mag you're free to put it in whatever you want. It's basically a legal loophole for having higher capacity mags in your rifle. I should point out that Pistols themselves are actually restricted in canada (mostly for law enforcement, military and some private security companies), but not the magazines, since Carbines that accept Pistol magazines (like the Beretta CX4) are not restricted firearms, which is why pistol magazines are not restricted either (but they are still limited to 10 rounds).

[@gerretoutdoors3710]

@@geremysorlinigiguere9535 that's awesome.

[@williamnicholson8133]

A 10 rd. 50 beowulf magazine holds 30 5.56 for some reason.

[@Bob3519]

In some states, Rifle ammunition can be purchased by an 18 year old, handgun ammo is restricted to 21 years and above. Who makes the call that you are purchasing ammo for a rifle/pistol? Similar to the pistol/rifle magazine issue.

[@Flugabwehrkanone]

The reason for the whole no-mag-outside-the-grip thing for pistols was the knee-jerk reaction to the TEC-9.

[@baconboi4482]

Whimps, even thinking of limiting arms in the first place

[@MrFloogy]

It was actually ahead of its time. There's been a trend in AR15 rifles to make them ultra light by performing some of the same modifications and lightening cuts this gun had almost 20 years ago.

[@notgray88]

That's what really makes me want this thing. It just looks like a really nice skeletonized AR.

[@anzaca1]

Making a gun ultra-light actually makes it bad, because the recoil now has less mass to counteract it.

[@rene4043]

I know it might seem silly to most people, but I actually applaud the efforts of the people who put forth the effort to bring something like this to the commercial market. AR pistols are really popular right now, but most of them still haven't solved the problem of the buffer tube that Olympic Arms boldly tried to do. All those ARs with the tube hanging out the back are more ridiculous to me, and pistol braces are like putting tape to cover up a hole in the wall. Also, ARs using pistol mags and mag wells are absolute lazy attempts by companies trying to fill this niche in the market. Then you have manufacturers doing it right by making "pistols/SBRS" like the MP5 and MPX, but they're charging nearly twice the amount that they should because they know they have very little legit competition. I can't wait for someone like Ruger to do what they did with their precision rifle and bring a pistol/SBR to market that is high quality while also being affordable to the average firearm enthusiast. Sorry for the small rant. Great job as always Ian! Thank you!

[@marcusborderlands6177]

umm, the mpx is just an ar with a pistol mag... nothin else to it...

[@TheCat48488]

@@doggonemess1 still, the thing is still not practical Besides if the government really want a hands down, the loopholes will not exist in the first place... So thank them too for that...

[@nyxnaux4737]

The only other pistol I know of that borrows from this design is the Kel Tec PLR-16

[@Wernerrrrr]

A stupid idea well executed....

[@mzmadmike]

Milling a bit more off the forgings for the deflector and forward assist, some fluting, and reducing things like the mag release fence would have let them keep most of the enclosed metal. Though it would take more complicated milling. And they should have stopped at 49.9 oz, just as an FU gesture.

[@colejosephalexanderkashay683]

Yes

[@thomascollins5622]

Margins of error, my dude. Cutting it close to the limit like that makes the chance of manufacturing errors or other factors push it over the limit, which could lead to litigation.

[@Requeium]

They probably wouldve rounded up anything above 49 ounces to 50 so they just said "fine, its 48. NOW WHAT?!"

[@GIboy1990]

this firearm represents the epitomie of the futility of gun control in the United States.

[@alexmoore1506]

GIboy1990 and somehow people think it's possible

[@jimbotheassclown]

No 3d printing does no putting that genie back in the bottle.

[@25thDaveWalker]

Kinda looks like the Fallout 10mm SMG

[@darthpanzer]

Exactly my thought! Burst it for extra dps. Don't give it to a companion tho.

[@darthpanzer]

And make him carry all your "valuable" garbage.

[@Croak1]

And don't install a lingerie or body mod. Please.

[@bish91]

IKR! , was just about to post the same thing and saw your comment! Have a like!

[@mrfisher1072]

I've always enjoyed fictitious guns from 90s video games and some of there modern reincarnations especially the new wolfenstein with the rotary barrel mg42.

[@KingBattlon]

Tech 9 had a barrel extender you could attach. That's probably what the law targeted.

[@G0ldbl4e]

Exactly this, and it also attached to some Mac10's.

[@kisielthe1st]

Yet another great example of law that doesn't solve a fucking thing because it's still the same firearm, just ugly.

[@thegreenman2030]

Liberals fear scary looking things.

[@superlegomoose]

Dr. Pavel I'm CIA honestly, this looks scarier.

[@cherrybomb9130]

Dr. Pavel I'm CIA It's so ugly, that it's beautiful. I wouldn't mind having this with an M92 PAP actually.

[@marc0523]

I thought this actually looked better than the original pistol.

[@DFX2KX]

Liberals come in three flavors: those who have absolutely no idea how engineering works with regards to firearms. those who do know, but know that group one is going to insist on their black-rifle legislation and thus make it worthless The Pro-Gun liberals, who simply shake their heads at the other two.

[@whyjay9959]

Yes, having the magazine outside of the pistol grip is a very important feature. Reducing a gun's ratio of barrel length to total length makes it much more dangerous, especially when the total length is so low and its ammunition is designed for a 50cm barrel.

[@calebdavis1323]

Why Jay this is dangerous how exactly?

[@betaich]

I think his comment was either sarcasm or irony.

[@pogmothonable]

its sarcasm for gods sake....

[@2010ngojo]

Well you can put larger caliber cartridges (or more powerful) with such a magazines without making it too awkward to hold. And from what I know so far, a pistol can have any length of barrel, including your 50cm. So yes, a pistol can effectively shoot a 223/556 if you got the right barrel length. It will look stupid though.

[@SPEEDYNOOB]

Why Jay I hope this is sarcasm, this same thinking that liberals use to tear apart the 2nd amendment and is quite frankly, retarded. Even if that gun is front heavy, it can still shoot, but why punish the majority of patriotic Americans just because a EXTREMELY small minority uses firearms wrong?

[@mikes2622]

I met people who actually believed the assault weapons ban covered automatic weapons and no matter how much I tried they would not understand reality.

[@45bullshark]

mike s to be fair, I would find that far more reasonable than the banning of things like this, things that look military and so are far more dangerous.

[@mikes2622]

45bullshark you find what more reasonable? Because something looks military it's more dangerous? Please explain. the assault weapons ban was allowed to expire because it was ineffective in reducing crime because semi automatic rifles are very rarely used in commission of a crime. and before you list a bunch of mass shootings, those are a very small percentage of annual crime in America.

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

And the majority of mass shootings had SMGs or pistols, I think the mass shooting that occurred in Orlando at a gay bar was with a AR.

[@I3urton]

I think he means the ban of automatic weapons would be a lot more reasonable than the ban of military looking stuff because _things that look military are a lot more dangerous_. Note the italic marked sarcasm.

[@mikes2622]

timewave02012 actually automatic weapons are covered under the National Firearms Act and are in no way related to the AWB.

[@danielchew8739]

so they made a chibi AR-15.

[@saedaaal4901]

toast1012 >says the virgin lel

[@shizukaryujoukai2465]

Backwoodsboy405 anime bullshit

[@shizukaryujoukai2465]

Comrade Otto lol

[@nonyabeezwacks6466]

Kaiser Kopanski ironic that a person watching a gun video doesn't support the first amendment

[@homeopathicfossil-fuels4789]

if this is a chibi is the ARAK a trap?

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

"Assault Pistol" fuckin' what? God damn politicians...

[@jakejones3501]

You know how many American children die every year cause of Assault Pistols? I saw it happen in die hard 4.

[@jimmehjiimmeehh9748]

Look up the TEC-9. It is essentially what the ban is going after.

[@Beowulf_98]

Jimmeh Jiimmeehh! yeah, the TEC-9 could be made full auto very easily. 😃

[@a.lampman2165]

The TEC-9 can be made full-auto _accidentally_. Haha.

[@Beowulf_98]

A. Lampman yes accidentally. 😉

[@ryanvargas4889]

The 93 was Dafoe's gun in "Clear and present Danger".

[@krinkov39]

It's also the gun wielded by the guy with a flamethrower in the opening scene of lethal weapon 4.

[@mortified_penguin2355]

It also shows up in the 2006 Miami Vice film.

[@nicholasnissen1547]

Ryan Vargas also think bad boys end scene at airport. My roommate had one and had to repair it for grade for school. It was one he showed in picture.

[@Fedakeen]

I think it was used in the movie, Spawn as well.

[@probablymelgibson2344]

Yup

[@Fedaykin24]

Just need to add a C-Mag and you will have the perfect conceal carry gun

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

Now you're making the most patriotic gun ever, The Patriot.

[@Fedaykin24]

I was more thinking a name like "The Maul-Ninja Dragon Fire 2000XP"

[@L1LegoAnimations]

I see a few people here saying they don't like "frankenstein" guns like this and that's another reason why the AWB should never return on a federal scale. To be honest it's something unusual which makes me think it's actually pretty cool, especially if it actually functioned correctly. That handguard looks like there could be some improvements though; I can still see a few ways to easily accidentally burn your hand on the barrel...

[@avro549B]

An extraordinary amount of ingenuity and effort devoted to no obvious purpose.

[@98abaile]

That's a barrel shroud? I thought it was the shoulder thing that goes up.

[@josephdillard9907]

98abaile Classic anti gunner ignorance, it would be hilarious if it wasn't such a threat to our rights as Americans.... Nice meme though

[@poika22]

@@josephdillard9907 Why would mistaking a uniquely shaped barrel shroud for a folding stock make someone an anti gunner? Do you also hear ATF transmissions in your teeth fillings? They're out to get you, you know.

[@josephdillard9907]

@@poika22 Clearly you didn't get my reference, or the OP's. His comment was a joke based on something an old anti gun politician got caught saying when pressed by a pro gun journalist. And then my comment was just an acknowledgement of that joke.

[@av0-cad03]

@@Vivi2372 you clearly have NEVER talked to an average firm supporter of the Constitution, and by proxy, the second amendment. Average people who support the Constitution are SPECIFICALLY for SUPPORTING the rights of the people. The second amendment was designed to detur government *tyranny*, not just "a government we don't like"- we're talking full on enemy invasion, or a total flip of the government in which the government attempts to remove the rights of the people, or convert the country into some dystopian nightmare like North Korea. The second amendment is meant to give the people the ability to turn that around.

[@JamesSmith-mq6vc]

Just sitting here minding my own business until I read this remark. I couldn't help but laugh out loud. It's a good thing I hadn't taken a big swallow of coffee. If I had I would be wearing it now! 😆

[@nedshead5906]

Olympic Arms attempt at entering the duel wielding Hollywood market

[@wladius]

Reminded me of the Cassian's blaster from Rogue One.

[@beep-beep]

That's because his blaster was obviously a AR-15 pistol that they didn't really try to mask. I'd be okay with it if they had just tried to do more to make it look less like one of the most popular rifles of this century. There are so many funky after-market AR addons they could have utilized as well.

[@pnastysavage5510]

The Hiphopopotamus a tacted up mauser and sterling smg's were well known and seen throughout the OG trilogy.

[@kyle857]

The Hiphopopotamus Using barely changed guns in Star Wars is a tradition.

[@Pahricida]

In Star Wars it's called Blastech A280 and the receiver is based on an AR-15. Andor uses a shortened version of it.

[@timdinch5598]

I wonder if Ian has ever stripped a gun and been unable to put it back together again?

[@jettjohnson3218]

I had more single shot break action shotguns/rifles brought in a bag than anything else - have to work blind and need at least 3 hands. Not very profitable until you get skilled at it & even then it was more goodwill than any appreciable monetary gain. Also end up making tools & jigs that are used precisely ONCE, lol. The low end stuff was invariably the most difficult, time consuming, least profitable & abundant.

[@trumble7766]

@wild bill Haha, thank god for KZbin. I bought my Dad and myself 22/45 Mk.3's for Father's day and me because I spent so much time watching reviews that I wanted one. I had people tell me It was going to be a pain in the ass and I was going to hate cleaning it, I figured they were being dramatic. It came apart easy enough, but getting it back together was a whole different story. My dad and I both spent an afternoon assembling and disassembling them to get to the point where we didn't need to re-watch a video to put them together again.

[@jettjohnson3218]

Lol, yeah but I loved the Mk series first thing I ever "gadgeted" up. Always tried to talk customers into a Colt Woodsman or something else, though.

[@KingHalbatorix]

Gun Jesus could put together a functioning mg40 from broken AK parts.

[@donzmilky5961]

wild bill cz 75 is also a puzzle and a half if you go past field strip to an actual disassembly lots of small parts, and a hidden little spring that has to come out a pin hole on the side of the grip.

[@joshuaradick5679]

10 foot walls and 11 foot ladders. The gun industry has some creative people in it. Maybe now they can devote those energies to new developments rather then dodging restrictions.

[@davidm.4670]

Unfortunately the incredibly ignorant restrictions will probably continue ...

[@jancz357]

looks like a gun from 80s sci-fi action movie, cool :)

[@ComputingCactus]

Man the AWB must have been absolute garbage, hopefully never happens again so we don't have to make a frankenstein weapon like this.

[@Aimless6]

Isn't the Peoples Republic of California's registration -and confiscation- scheme a direct copy of that law?

[@Fenster21]

It is alive and well here in New Jersey. The only difference is we have a 15 rd. limit.

[@Andy47357]

it almost did in 2012. must we never forget our success in defending the 2A.

[@thegreenman2030]

Censor: Ahh yes the 5 evil feature game that NJ loves to play. It was always fun trying to explain to people why a WASR or SAIGA was legal but other variants were not. The answer always was because it says WASR on the side and the ban is really on the word AK-47 since the laws are words and not pictures. Fortunately for me those days are in the past as I am a resident of PA now.

[@argenti3609]

Then never vote blue

[@thenymphohunter]

I almost picked up the older rifle version of this for $600 a few weeks ago. I really am kicking myself. Interesting workaround. Great video Ian!

[@hakjobtm7472]

Call me crazy but I've always dug the whole 'bite-sized tiny AR' thing. I love the look of the Draco AKP, this weapon here, and the super shortened G3. The proportion of magazine to barrel just seems so interesting to me.

[@chrisholmes8227]

SpaghettiFox I was looking this whole time for a draco comment

[@RavensEagle]

Super short G3? Never heard or seen one before

[@davewolf8869]

What a BRILLIANT design! Genius way of getting around the recoil tube spring problem, kind of like the issue with FAL but they put the spring in the carrier under the dust cover to get around the tube in the stock.

[@FriedrichHecker1848]

So, if you remove the one feature from the AR-15, that is really not to beat, it's quick field stripping, and exchange it with such a complex system, why not just take the AR-180 system to begin with?

[@MisterBones2910]

Cost of production. They're already tooled up to make AR-15 parts, and probably have a lot kicking around anyway.

[@toofar7493]

I saw the first version of this gun in a movie and was unable to find any information on what it was, but now I know. Thanks!!!

[@VVeltanschauung187]

"Reciprocity." That's a clever name for it. Revenge is a very, very, very dangerous motivation. -John Clark

[@connorrognlin5604]

Snake Eater Ha! I finally found found a Clear and Present Danger reference under an Olympic Arms review. Good quote 👍

[@jimvandemoter6961]

This is like an answer to a question that I would never think of asking.

[@obeastness]

I was just talking about this gun with a friend because of the golgo 13 episode where the main character uses this gun when he lays under an armored van that rolls over him and fires armor penetrating bullets through the bottom into the cab.

[@lindalesabre]

the writers havnt done their homework, there is no AP loading in .223

[@Mc007Queen]

I was in a gun store in Canada Windsor Ontario , they sold a cut down version of the AK-47 just like the one in the video that short lol , they wanted something like $1,100 ... this is the gun that the RoboCop should have used .. It's sweet I WANT IT !

[@nat040496]

Just goes to show how stupid and unconstitutional alot of gun laws are. Having a barrel shroud and a magazine well separate from the grip have zero effect on weapon performance, and are more of necessities or comfort features.

[@five5105]

I find a mag in the grip to be more convenient, and my left hand is able to be naturally guided towards the other.

[@Ragnarok9139]

The whole point of all of these laws is to take away as much as they possibly can from the Second Amendment. To the point where the Second Amendment is absolutely useless. Where they will just remove it in general and we all end up like Mexico.

[@m.b.82]

It does kinda seperate an ar15 from a glock 9 though

[@christopherconard2831]

It was based entirely around hype. An earlier version banned guns that didn't even exist. The authors went through books like Jane's Guide, ect, and listed every "evil looking" gun they saw. No one looked at specs, or how many were made. The authors of the law also later admitted that some parts were written based on what someone saw on TV shows like Miami Vice.

[@funny3scene]

SwordBreaker925 that’s why you just live life like gun laws don’t exist, the only “gun law” I know is the 2nd amendment

[@SophistFCD]

It's a crime they didn't call it the OA98K

[@SuperPerry1000]

"Assault Pistol". Eew. I get the impression the people making these weapon banning laws knew absolutely nothing about guns to begin with. It's like calling a can of Monster Energy an Assault Drink, it's just trying to sound scary while meaning nothing. So many petty rules and restrictions, and if the last few years have been any indication, none of it has helped the "guns in the hands of crazy people" issue in the slightest. And I say this as a Brit, in a country where we don't really have guns at all.

[@Ojthemighty]

Brit here. Well actually we can have guns just what type keeps diminishing. Wasnt long ago you were allowed to conceal carry pistols now pistols are banned

[@sumvs5992]

@@Ojthemighty another brit here, looking on government websites I think I've seen that handguns have only two specific reasons for needing them, and one of them is putting down animals humanely. But the process is probably so much more difficult than getting an FAC or shotgun license. But crimes with handguns are still happening in the UK today, so the point of banning them is kind of mute

[@AnonEMus-cp2mn]

My dad used to own one of these, I've even had the opportunity to not only shoot it, but also field-strip and clean it. The hardest part in putting it back together is to re-thread the recoil spring nut. I lost grip once and had that thing shoot across the shop! overall from my memory and experience, this gun was very light and handy to shoot with.

[@TheSuburban15]

The OA-96 had a magazine pinned in place, and then that pin was welded to the lower receiver. To load the pinned magazine, you pushed a button at the rear, which disengaged a lug at the bottom rear of the upper. You could then hinge the action open and load with a stripper clip, or one round at a time. I think most, if not all, had a Vortex flash hider, which is desirable with short barrels which belch fire normally.

[@nermket4849]

IVE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS! It looks like a broomhandle mauser, and I imagine it has similar faults (mostly balance).

[@gamersunite2541]

I sure am glad I don't have an assault rifle. I am thankful fir my AR-15 though

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

Gnarly!! I love the wonky ways people got around the assault weapon ban!

[@1leggeddog]

That was a very interesting firearm! I'm especially interested in the workings of the recoil spring system in the front. Makes me wonder why this idea wasn't adapted more often for ARs uppers so they could lose the buffer tube and allow for folding stocks. I would love to see a monolithic upper with this system.

[@thepezfeo]

The AR-18 design might be a good solution to the AR-15 pistol buffer-tube problem. It was designed to be manufactured using stamped sheet metal and less advanced tooling to make it cheap and easy to manufacture in poor countries. *AR-18 / AR-180 Pistol* kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZWtfYmFdsako9E (2 min.) *ArmaLite AR-18: full disassembly & assembly* kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGnXeqakm6ebbZo (5 min.) GunLab looks at the Vulcan V15 AR18 hybrid --- (PLAYLIST) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGq2e4yArparq7c en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-18

[@superlegomoose]

I've been waiting for this gem my entire life.

[@fenrir9404]

Norway gun laws have almost the exact list of unwanted evil pistol features its baically copy paste and translated. That means for instance if you thread your competition hand gun like a walther GSP for suppressor its basically a forbidden by law assault pistol.

[@MisterBones2910]

+chibani That's what he means, if you thread it to accept a suppressor it's made illegal.

[@fenrir9404]

Exactly

[@fenrir9404]

We also have a list for evil unwanted features for semi auto shotguns. That said it was for semi auto then suddenly it was for pump action too and then later it changed into for all repeating shotguns. Some features can be ok with permission like extended magazines. Some is no go from start like butt stock with vertical pistolgrip or fed from box magazines. Apparently the incompetent morons who make this shit up did not like the Saiga shotgun very vell, then it was likewise for pimped up pump action shotguns and in the end we end up with rules who literally bans and defines a Marlin goose gun as a evil assault shotgun. important to clarify the rules and laws dont mention assault, but i write it down even though i dont like the term just to be understood. That is what happens when police bureaucrats gets to make the rules.

[@DFX2KX]

@Fenrir Do you guys have the same exception for muzzle loaders we do in the states? Because I think I've still got smoothbore musket plans that would manage to tick most of those boxes.

[@w77eed]

Look like those Olympic Arms boys are at it again.

[@TylerHulan]

and in 2004, the assault weapons ban crawled back to into hellhole it came from and withered up and died. Hopefully never to be seen again.

[@z71offroad2000]

I used to go into the Olympic Arms Store front - factory to buy other AR parts with A LE friend. They had several of these on the wall for sale in 2001, $650 bucks back then, I shoulda bought one , What a loss.

[@theJellyjoker]

At first I though "that makes a lot more sense, moving the recoil out of the butt stock and next to the gas tube!" and then my next thought was "why not combine the gas tube and the recoil rod?" and then I realized I was turning the AR into the AK.

[@SaftonYT]

4:24 I love that Ian just comes out and calls it how it is.

[@WraithOfMan]

Another good video that just goes to show how utterly out of touch the people who've made gun laws in the US are with reality...

[@jonmcclane7433]

Willem Dafoe's character in Clear and Present Danger starring Harrison Ford uses this exact Firearm. It has a very distinct sound when fired, cool firearm. Thanks again, Ian for a very insightful review.

[@bami2]

According to legislation, I have an assault toilet in my home.

[@BillHaworth]

They literally took one of their AR15 bolt carriers and chopped it down to size. It still has the forward assist scallops on the side, but no forward assist on the gun itself. It's like they were also shooting for making it with as many off the shelf parts as they could get away with.

[@rickbrasche8781]

California maintaining the definition of "assault pistol" is why we can't even have a Ruger Charger. Seriously. here we get hosed mostly for the "loading outside the grip" as verboten for a pistol. we can completely forget about something fun like the PLR-22.

[@pmodd]

It might be flimsy, complicated and waaaay too big, but the OA-98 sure looks cool. I can see why collectors would want this thing; would look sweet in a display cabinet.

[@argoshikan]

Here's your silencer. Your louderner. Your speed cocker. And this is for shooting down helicopters. Great simpsons reference.

[@jonathanhudson4623]

If people like the idea of this they should look into the plr16 from keltec. I bought mine when they first came out and I've loved that gun every since. It's mostly polymer like everything keltec makes. It's a gas piston system with the recoil spring around the gas piston rod, that is on top of the barrel. They have around a 9" barrel and as you would expect they are extremely loud and blow out a massive muzzle flash. They run on any AR15 magazine or drum. They also disassemble very easily and run really clean. the only fault I've had out of mine is it will not run any kind of steel cased ammo because the extraction is so fast due to the very short dwell time. it's just an interesting gun to me and I thought I'd share. I originally thought the keltec was basically a copy of the olympic until I saw that the olympic was a direct impingement system, while the keltec has a full length gas piston system connected directly to the bolt carrier. they are accurate and handy guns and can be made into a great little SBR. They are worth a look if you happen to see one in your local gun shop. if they don't have the barrel shroud / fore end they are a very odd looking (ugly) gun. if you do get a chance to fire one I'd suggest ear plugs and ear muffs. you can skip one level of hearing protection if you get a linear compensator or blast forward type muzzle device. They are threaded at the muzzle with standard 1/2x28 threads. They offer a 22LR version as well (plr-22) but that not exactly relevant as a comparison to the olympic. great video BTW.

[@apachebeard952]

"A pistol firing rifle rounds in an automatic fashion." An identity crisis that shoots bullets.

[@MindBodySoulOk]

I love this, why are these not Flippin everywhere!

[@DH-mw5rz]

Would love to see this in an 8.5 inch barrel in 300 blkout with an ak style side folding stock

[@GunFunZS]

Drew Hampton me too. I was thinking people are currently putting a lot of money, creativity and effort into making lightweight compact foldy AR15 braced pistols and SBRs. I think of this model frequently when I see articles' hyperbole about the innovation on TFB.

[@krinkov39]

You can get one of these with a side folder. www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=693&CFID=607478814&CFTOKEN=28080215

[@Calvin_Coolage]

krinkov39 Now that is a beautiful firearm.

[@rbd6502]

GunFun ZS I don't know what it is but somehow getting away with calling a stock a brace is hilarious to me. I think it was.... u save $50? if u get a "brace" for a "pistol" instead of just buying a solid stock SBR or vice versa

[@fireblazesmobileaccount2607]

Ronald Bryan Domingo Sbr tax stamps tho.. SBR paper work tho .. muh brace.

[@Teboski78]

Funny thing is the AWB made modern sporting rifles & AR & AK pistols absurdly more popular. They went from a a few hundred thousand to tens of millions in number

[@marks_sparks1]

I admire Ian's unbiased examination of AWB weapons to date: Crossfire, HK SL-8 and Hadar. The theory behind the law that inspired them was flawed but I like the creative thinking by the manufacturers to get around it. If the Democrats had thought the law would make them give up making arms, I guess they hadn't reckoned with US ingenuity. probably didn't make for a best-selling product but I would like to fire them for the novelty.

[@connorc4309]

if he summarized this as a giant middle finger to the assault weapons ban, I think we'd all say "yah, that's pretty accurate"

[@TomRedlion]

Sadly, Olympic Arms ceased operations early this year. Thus the OA93 has also become a relic.

[@brodyping9221]

You gotta love the engineers behind this

[@thedamnyankee1]

Assault weapons ban sunsetted everywhere but here in Massachusetts. The Mass legislature, In their finite wisdom decided that they liked it so much they would just instate it here. They literally passed a law that says the assault weapon ban is still in effect in the state.

[@spokehedz]

This reminds me of a paintball gun, the Enigma 68? I think? That bolt coming out the back was a super handy feature on that paintball gun though, letting you clear broken paint easily.

[@LURKTec]

US gun laws are weird

[@Christopher224]

I do remember talk of pump-action shotguns being banned but semi-automatics and lever actions not. Apparently it has something to do with the pumping sound being 'too threatening'

[@josephdillard9907]

John Doe Replace "weird" with "stupid and pointless" and you've got it

[@thatguybrody4819]

Because politics make guns seem like the 2nd worst thing to have other than a literal bomb

[@elezmerka3225]

g

[@timothyterrell1658]

@@thatguybrody4819 well as a fact they are. Before you go off let me explain. I'm going to try to make it so you understand me. I both love and hate them , much for the same reasons. They are easy to use ,they are deadly they are easy to steal. They are easy to conceal. Except the stealing part there is nothing inherently evil about a gun as it is a tool. The problem is with humanity. Many of us have no business with a weapon. Any kind of weapon and guns are easy and fast to use. I would not get rid of my gun because I can't get rid of every body else's guns. And if all the guns on earth just disappeared some one would just make more. We have them and we are not going to be able to get rid of them. And if we did there would be something that will take it's Place. From a rock to a stick to a pointed stick to a stick With a pointed rock on it add another stick a sinue and some feathers ,.and it just doesn't end. Humans will always be looking for a better weapon. And we tend to use them. It is not the weapon, it is the hand that uses it ,that is evil. That is us.

[@laylagardner8728]

They actually still produced it for a little while after the federal ban sunsetted because a few states like NY had passed laws that were just a mirror of the federal ban minus the sunset clause.

[@DrEisenhower]

Thank you Mr. Skeltal

[@torchofkck4989]

Excellent video. Would like to see a part 2. (Overview of the lower) Thanks

[@aaron4820]

Inb4 Salient high speed low drag cuts... wonder if this gun with all the speed holes costed $2000 more than the original.

[@jeffhind9049]

I Love the way you do the videos in order many props for organizing common sense

[@PJSproductions97]

4:27 "...Nobody was interested in buying that because it was stupid." One of the very simple yet extremely effective sentences that makes me love Ian's way of speaking. Up there with him describing things going "sproing" if you take a gun apart the wrong way.

[@joekahno]

A "barrel extender" is a real thing. There are surplus military and police barrels that do not meet the minimum length for non-NFA firearms. A permanently installed barrel extender takes them out of this category and gets them off of form 4.

[@matthewlemon4208]

hahahaha spit my coffee at "skeletonized to within a inch of their lives..."

[@numbr17]

Very interesting! Nice job showing us this piece. Definitely a strange one!

[@IchKomentiereNur123]

Looks like a sci fi movie prop

[@camerongoyette4778]

Anyone else realize that the changes they made to the gun in order to comply with the assault weapons ban only made it more badass?

[@overlorddante]

This firearm complies with the AWB yet would be just as effective in a crime. That's what happens when people who don't know shit about guns try to legislate them.

[@tommyhosler6058]

Instead of solving the real problem which is messed up people doing messed up things. These firearms bans remind me of the idiots who thought violent video games made people commit crimes...but ppv fights were still legal. I mean ffs my video games are the reason I'm not violent

[@tylersmith1468]

@@tommyhosler6058exactly, they kill boxing provide a non violent outlet for intrusive thoughts

[@elidennison9902]

Keep making videos like this remind people what will happen when they try and ban features on guns in the name of safety. 3999 cannot pass.

[@GoldplatedDeagle]

someone needs to buy this and put it on a full auto lower

[@MisterBones2910]

Where there's a will, there's a machinist who'll have a lot of fun for a few hours until the ATF kills his dog.

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

I think they did that for the opening scene of Lethal Weapon 4, but it only shot blanks, of course. The flamethrower guy uses an OA-93, which is the full auto detachable magazine version of this one.

[@gihrenzabi7271]

A binary trigger would work!

[@donzmilky5961]

Looks like it would be pretty easy to make a drop in auto sear for this.

[@donzmilky5961]

Bench grinder, drill press, and a dollop of elbow grease.

[@shoob6335]

What I love about Ian's videos is how he explains everything to us, even basic concepts a lot of us already know. It really helps rookie arms enthusiasts to understand what's going on, and really helps him attract all audiences!

[@Radzaification]

So a C96 with a threaded muzzle would've been an assault pistol? Gotta love governmental legislation....

[@rubencentro4974]

There's an experimental model of one of these for sale in the UK. Normally handguns and centre fire rifles are banned here, but there's an area of the law that allows you to own handguns for the base of collecting (such as military trials pistols or ones with value like that) so i may be able to buy it in the UK. will be great if i can

[@bourbonstudios1255]

This ridiculously ridiculous!

[@huntersills1]

I've imagined this thing in my head for years.

[@mchagnon7]

The 90's was when gun legislator's learned that arbitrary and convoluted requirements for unnecessarily specific aspects of a gun's design wasn't going to make the types of guns they didn't want go away, but only make them uglier...

[@TheStowAway594]

You would think lawmakers would spend all that time and money, educating the population, instead of making laws to imprison them. Education is how you solve problems. Punishment never works in the long term. Great and interesting video! Thank you!

[@cyranus10]

Anyone else cringe at the un-oiled aluminum-on-aluminum grinding?

[@jasondoe2596]

cyranus10 yes I did! I guess that thing wasn't used too much, I don't think the anodising (assuming it is anodising) would last very long.

[@tomsoki5738]

So the AWB ended up with a company making a fully legal 5.56 pistol that is incredibly easy to conceal and as such is way more deadly if used right. Well done US government.