Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark IV, the best BUDGET mirrorless camera? - RED35 Review

[@jpsteiner2]

Thanks! Wonderful summary.

[@BobK58]

I have the Mk ll and love, love, love it. I took a trip to Istanbul and took just two lenses: the 12-40/f2.8 and pany 20/f1.7. Everything fit in a small messenger bag. I got a picture of the city skyline that I had printed at 20'' x 30'". Looks great and is hanging in my dining room. The Panasonic 20mm pancake was perfect for inconspicuous street photography.

[@geoffpople5111]

Thanks!

[@GB0711]

Thanks for the review, Jimmy. I've been using quite an old DSLR for some time and have decided to go for something much more modern when I change later this year. The EM-10 iv is definitely the top contender.

[@dbbppyh]

Welcome back!!

[@Red35Photography]

Glad to be back

[@patrickmcfadden1689]

Another nice video, i just picked up the Miv used with less than 500 shutter clicks, this works along side my Mii and Miii very well.

[@terry141186]

Picked this up yesterday. I actually went in to the store to pick up a new Lens. Ended up buying this camera with two lenses included for £849.99. Only used it for a moment taking it out properly today. Coming from a Panasonic the menu is going to take a little bit of getting used to but I am very very impressed with the build and image quality so far.

[@Radiohutch1]

Just bought it. Love it. A great complement to my EM1 Mark ii and EM5 mark iii. Stealthy, very nice.

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Excellent video 😮!

[@Red35Photography]

Glad you liked it!

[@ordinosaurs]

IMHO, and purely from a photography point of view (excluding video), Olympus had the formula nailed with the E-M10 mk II, and subsequent models have since been somewhat compromised. While a 20 Mpix sensor is certainly appealing, it also produces larger files for a limited quality increase. And it doesn't offset the disappearance of a lot of customisation possibilities that are embedded in the mk II and sorely lacking on newer models. I'm glad some of the most egregious omissions (such as silent shutter in all PASM modes) have finally been backported from the mk II to the mk IV, but there are a lot more areas where the mk II still has the edge. A beginner will certainly be more at ease to transition to real photography with a mk IV. But the more advanced photographers are still better served with the straightforwardness of the mk II. "An elegant weapon for a more civilized age"...

[@Kopetefish]

Thanks for the review, I appreciate people taking more time for them and using the camera for a longer period to get a good idea.

[@jamescole322]

I bought my em10m2 in a 2018 just as the m3 came out (got a great deal). I was moving from r The Fuji X10. Great camera

[@Red35Photography]

All EM10s are good cameras. especially the mark ii was an iconic one!

[@charne911]

Thanks for getting to this! I've had a preorder in since nearly the day this new mark iv was announced. Still using my E-M10ii which is a wonderful camera -- my introduction to Olympus mirrorless cameras. Packing now for an extended trip to the UK, planning to take the E-M10iv, as well as my old trustworthy E-M1 mark I and E-PL9 bodies, and a bag of lenses. Also love that they all use the same batteries. Also found a second hand M Zuiko 12mm f/2 lens which will go into my bag for the trip!

[@Red35Photography]

Wow! Thanks for your comment Jimmy! Enjoy the new camera and nice trip to UK! Take lots of photos!!

[@1stfootprint_art]

Nice detailed review... love the new presentation style... but I miss your review companions... hopefully the world will get back to normal again soon...

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks mate. I miss everyone who I work with. Yes, I am so desperate to get out and shoot and have fun with them again. Just don't know when, UK is heading towards yet another lockdown soon.

[@steve_seguin]

Went with the E-M10 iv after shooting with the original E-M5 for a decade. While I would have preferred the E-M5 iii, or its updated OM-5 reskin, instead I got the M10 used for 1/4th the price of the M5. I really wanted to love the new OM-5, but it just seems like last-decade technology; no USB-C, no new sensor, and a less than compelling compute/social/ai enhancements. I do have a GH5S for video, and it's been a blessing the last few years, all the while my OMD has just gathered dust. Olympus has never made much effort with the video side of things, and being locked indoors the last few years, I didn't use it as I just didn't need a travel camera. I have some big travel plans this summer though, and despite my smartphone being a pretty great primary stills-camera, nothing can yet replace my 75mm Olympus lens. I probably would have jumped on an older E-M5 ii if I could have snagged one for $200 or so, to get focus peaking and a slightly better sensor, but an M10-iv for a bit more seemed worth it. My ancient E-M5 is hard to use with manual primes, and there is very little data to work with when post-processing, but otherwise it's a beautiful little stills camera. OM Systems needs to excite me, while keeping well away from competing in the price range that Sony FF cameras are in. $500 to $1500 is the price range I'm hoping for. Auto-focus needs to be at least as good as a Sony A6100 camera, ideally even better. Clean HDMI output (mini or full sized port), line/mic in audio, NDI output, USB-C webcam output, USB-rapid charging, NFC connectivity, digital e-stab + IBIS, and a more seamless mobile experience integration. Perhaps even slap Android OS in, using a Qualcomm snapdragon chipset to power the device; how cool would it be if the camera was picked up as the primary system camera so it is compatible with all Android apps? I'd smack on my fish-eye pancake lens and pocket such a camera, or switch to a 25mm to do a live stream from my home studio. If done flawlessly, perhaps in partnership with Samsung, I'd drop even upwards of $2000 for such a beast.

[@arpitkumargahlot]

Beautiful camera! Perfect for travel. Beautiful jpegs

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks Arpit! Glad you like it.

[@festivitycat]

Great review, thanks! I was very confused by the comment near the end that it lacks face-detection AF, but then realised you said PHASE-detection AF! So I learned something too :)

[@buchsg]

I just bought a mark iii body for my son 12th’s birthday (he will use my lenses...), cost me only 288€ brand new... For me it’s the cheapest alternative right now I know Olympus push you to say than the latest is the greatest but nowadays a good tip is to buy older models, for the last decade they are almost all as good as the new ones and features are just gimmicks from the marketing department 😅

[@dayeah765caoni3]

Latest IS the greatest, but not necessarily the most affordable. Welcome to the world, baby

[@marshazangroniz9168]

Since I've been watching Jimmy, I have not seen him "tow the party line". He says it as he sees it. I do agree that older models hold excellent value.

[@WMedl]

@@dayeah765caoni3 Latest is the latest, that's all!!!! Wake up from marketing narcose!

[@JohnHKLee]

I bought the mk3 recently for a bargain price as well.... loving the excellent- ease of use:output ratio!

[@Red35Photography]

I love the Mark III, I said it in my last EM10 III video earlier this year, also, like you said it's a bargain now. In fact, Olympus is still selling Mark II which is even cheaper. Olympus didn't push me to say anything, I only say it objectively in this case, I actually didn't like a couple of things in this camera, only because they don't apply to me, spec is updated and if you use it, then the latest is better, but for most photographers, either can do a great job.

[@charliepragnell5791]

Great detailed review Jimmy! I love the e-m10 series - compact, snappy, very solid... oh and those vintage looks! I have a feeling this one is going to sell pretty well. It seems to have evolved into the perfect entry level camera and finally gets the 20mp sensor of its bigger brothers along with improved IBIS. Did you mention that it also has usb charging? A really useful feature for charging whilst on the move.

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks Charlie, yes the latest Mark IV supports USB charging, still mini USB and not type C unfortunately. But it's there so you can charge it using a normal power bank if you need to top up.

[@lweleven3423]

I’m sure I would love it , it fact for some odd reason I prefer the 10 to the 5 but the massive difference in price from the mk111 to the IV is to big to justify for me maybe in a few years when the price comes down

[@Group51]

Watching this again, after KZbin seems to have improve the video quality is reassuring.

[@patrickwhitehead]

Good review Jimmy. I just bought the mkIV to go with my Pen-F and 5mkII and the main reason is for the tilt screen. I broke my hip in the summer and am still walking with a stick and flip out screens are not easy with one hand. Love the new grip as well. I don't do video and the camera does everything I need photographically. The only downer I've found so far is that my remote shutter release that I use with my other Oly cameras won't work with it and you have to use the app.

[@denisgehlhaar8902]

I love the Olympus Entry Level Cameras. The E-M10 Mark II made me love the System and I'm now carrying an E-M5 for Family Shooting and an E-M1 for professionell work. Thanks for your great conent!

[@Red35Photography]

Cheers Denis! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@davidwebb091370]

very informative review, Jimmy! thank you very much!

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks Jose!! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@mr.l6982]

The E-M10 is one of the best values in the market- the new grip looks perfect! I hope that they put a grip like that on all their new cameras. The image quality and performance is right up there with the more expensive models.

[@barryhallsted]

Great video Jimmy! I am trying to use my E-M10 Mark IV with a Swarovski ATX w/ 115mm lens for digiscoping. I am trying to figure it out, but it is not as easy as some make it seam. I'd love to see you do a video as such!

[@debrahunt7891]

Good video! I am looking to upgrade from cellphone photography mostly for wildlife, birds, macro, landscape and models in lovely landscapes. Do you think this camera would handle all this? I know it's allot 🤷

[@gerrymac5865]

Great review jimmy, just ordered my new o-md10 mkiv from Amazon £421 for black body version lock down bargain, price just dropped while placing my order to £405 👀👍

[@JK-tb3co]

I am buying a mirrorless camera for the very first time so am watching a lot of review videos on KZbin and this was one of the best! Down to the E-M10 Mark IV vs the Fujifilm X-T200 as my final options as they are the same price locally. Fuji has the larger sensor and I guess brand future "stability" but Olympus has IBIS and overall better feel/ease of use. Mainly for casual shooting on vacations/trips. Anyone know if there are any other major considerations I am not taking into account?

[@Red35Photography]

System size as an overall package. Body is one think. Most buy Olympus because of IBIS and size, their lenses are easily much smaller than even Fuji (like for like). So when you grow and start to get a couple of things, you will soon realise the added weight and size. So, if you are shooting vacations and trips, Olympus is a much better choice in my opinion, not selling it of course :)

[@bosamuelsson3052]

Oh yaa! I have bougth ons. M1 markIV!

[@YoSpiff]

I still have an EM-10 MkII and haven't found any reason to upgrade to a newer version or an EM-5. I also have an EM-1 Mk1, but the EM-10 II seems to still be my go-to because of the more compact size and traveling for work.

[@AimeeFleck]

I'm still using an Olympus pen mini! It's time for a new camera. Deciding between this one and the Cannon eos

[@Red35Photography]

They are both great camerasC that depends on your preference and experience with Olympus camera. Canon EOS is still bigger as a system

[@AimeeFleck]

@@Red35Photography I've watched so many videos and read so many comparisons, and finally talked with two of my photog friend and both agreed that I should go with the oly for a few reasons. It's a lighter weight camera (I've had major brain surgery and having weight on my neck is a problem) and I have a few extra Olympus lenses, and I'm comfortable in the ecosystem LOL

[@thierrygraphie5521]

The OMD EM-10 IV has no more noise at high iso than the OMD EM-IV. It's the same Truepic sensor and processor. The comparisons have been made. Moreover, for me it is not a camera to replace a smartphone. It's two very different worlds

[@irvinmartin9259]

I loved the LEGO camera! This (the EM10) is a great “pocket-able” alternative to my OMD EM1 Mk II. Now I just have to find a camera shop that will sell me one. Where I live, they won’t stock it, and in some cases, won’t even order it for in store pick up.

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks Irvin for watching. Where do you live? Can't you get the camera online and get it delivered?

[@irvinmartin9259]

@@Red35Photography Hello Jimmy! There's some news there. I made my first comment on a Saturday after a frustrating attempt at ordering a new EM10 Mk IV on line. My usual camera shop is a place called Henry's. There's a chain of them here in Canada. At first I tried their website. It wasn't encouraging. It was listed as a "Special Order" item, and only home delivery was indicated. So I tried another shop here in Ottawa, Vistek. On their site it was also by order only, but at least they offered a choice of delivery or in store pick up. So I went through the process of ordering from them. But at the end my charge card was declined. (I'd just payed it off, but I guess it hadn't gone through yet.) So now what? The next day was Sunday. Vistek was closed, but Henry's was open. So I decided to drop in, in person. Success! They said that in store pick up was fine, and normal. The website was wrong. So....I bought one! 4 to 6 weeks possibly before I see it, but hopefully worth the wait.

[@alexeyprosvetov6306]

Hi! I started learning photography with a second-hand EM10 II and still enjoy using it. I wonder why you (and many other) tell about the "new" heart/processor in mark IV. It's not new by any means. EM10 III already had Truepic VIII and the newest processor now is Truepic IX presented in EM1 III.

[@Red35Photography]

Despite no proper info, but this version of Trupic VIII should be a new tweaked version hence the better power management and overall snappier performance. A 10% save in energy is significant, it may not reflect in outright speed. It's not new, just like a lot of computer processors. So far, only EM1 III has Trupic IX

[@alexeyprosvetov6306]

@@Red35Photography thank you for the clarification. It's a pity that there is no official data on the processor characteristics for each model. What and why do camera manufacturers hide?

[@Red35Photography]

@@alexeyprosvetov6306 no, unfortunately no one knows, doesn't matter what brands. So far, only computer industry seems not bother about declaring what tweaks they do to the computer processors, strange.

[@charleyb4424]

If the E-M10iv had same (as many) bracketing options as E-M10ii, then I'd upgrade 3 bodies to E-M10iv. Will OMS will ever bring back the missing bracketing options?

[@clanmac66]

Thanks Jimmy, my question is You can get a E-M10 III with 14-40MM and 40-150MM lenses over £150 cheaper than Mark IV with 14-40MM lens. Which one is the better option for photography not vlogging?

[@Red35Photography]

If this is your very first Olympus or micro four third camera, then the EM10 III kit is very good value now. The mark IV is of course a technically better camera with higher resolution and auto focus that's cater for portraits, but the Mark III is a very capable machine for photography.

[@clanmac66]

@@Red35Photography Thank you for replying. Looks like my 1st Is going to be the EM10 III :-)

[@PlainVanilla308]

I just upgrade from mark 1 to 4!!

[@iftekhar77]

this camera or nikon d3500 ? thoughts ?

[@MichaelGerrard]

Thanks, it is a nice camera but with a number of compromises. I was wondering, physically, how close in overall size is the E-M10 IV to the 5 III? Is the 10 much smaller? Also, how does the 10 IV compare with the 5 II? Price wise maybe that is a good option?

[@Red35Photography]

Interesting thought, I may make a video about it. But in short, the EM10 is narrower than EM5III, similar thickness and height. In terms of comparing to EM5 II, well, EM10 IV is a better camera in almost every way, just without customisations and weather seal. So shoot manual, then the EM10 IV can beat the EM5 II easy especially the new AF couple with the processor, it's a much more enjoyable machine to shoot with. It's a hard decision really, but for 2020, I may finally lean over the new EM10 over the older EM5 II now.

[@MyVault]

But they could have given a metal body for Mk4 as in Mk2? What about wildlife photography with Olympus? Is Em 10 series a good pick?

[@belalang90]

One thing that I really want from mark IV is the silent shutter in all modes. Really hope they can give firmware update to mark III.

[@davemil716]

I have seriously considering the IV over the III. But I am wondering about handling. I noticed you used the 12-100. How did that balance for you? I have the 12-40 and worried it is not as balanced. My other cameras are the E-M1 Mk1 with a grip. I am attracted to the new grip of the IV. Thanks!

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks for watching mate. 12-100 is a heavy lens so it will only balance well with bigger camera, but it didn't stop me from taking it to my trip as an all-in-one lens since it's got the reach and OIS on the lens. You won't have a problem using 12-40 on the mark IV at all. Mind you, the Mark IV grip isn't as deep as the EM1 and it's a lot more compact, it's nice but in terms of comfort, EM1 is still a better choice for people who use the camera for extended time, professionals and people with larger hands.

[@davemil716]

@@Red35Photography Right now in the US one can E-m10 II, III for new or refurbished at really good pricing. The Mark IV is in my each as well financially. I mostly work in manual mode. Grips can be bought for the Mark II. So I am having a bit of a hard time deciding. I have had the Mark II before and know the image quality. Just can't decide on which model to get!

[@Red35Photography]

@@davemil716 similar in UK too. EM10 II is a classic on its own but the new Mark IV's improved 20MP sensor is a treat, couple with better AF is pretty good, but there's a premium on price. Mark III is not a big jump in tech compares to Mark II but IV is a different beast altogether.

[@davemil716]

@@Red35Photography Well this is totally crazy... but I found the E-M5 II for the same price as the E-M10 iv, brand new! And that was a requirement for me, try to get new! I think this will match up nicely with my E-M1 Mk1 and my lenses... thanks for your responses, it was very helpful as well as your other videos on the M10 and M5...

[@judith4294]

Nice video and nice photos. How is the quality with the kit lens or really i`ll need to adquire better lenses?

[@Master-tu4kd]

Where can we get that lens hood from and what lens is it connected to? Thanks

[@forevershampoo]

I use an OM1 and basically wanted a digital version of that. I just shoot in manual usually so thats mostly All I would do on this. I would still be interested in exploring features but I like shooting manual. Better than nikon d5600?

[@Red35Photography]

Better is a subjective word, depends on how you use your camera, EM10 is a smaller and much lighter camera than D5600. The system as a whole is also much smaller. Image quality, I would say about the same but sharper due to the fact that OM-D cameras don't have AA filters. Also a lot quieter and that image stabilisation is just cool. If I have to define better, EM10 is a modern digital mirrorless camera while Nikon D5600 is from yesteryear, as modern digital camera has many advances over traditional DSLRs. You will like the EM10

[@K7.2023]

i heard robin wong say this camera shares same sensor as the pen F😅

[@DavidKRandom]

Interesting review. Do you think OM Systems will introduce an OM-D EM10 Mark V? Thanks.

[@SilouanWright]

What would say is the best competitor to this camera that has a flip out screen that isn’t obscured by a tripod?

[@michaeld5888]

I am firmly stuck at the EM10 II as the EM10 III was a panic strip out of functionality in Olympus's dying moments and little has come back in the IV. The problem with these cheap cameras is there are no firmware improvements and the IV is something that could have been done in firmware over the III. I bought to compliment it a Panasonic G80 with a 12-60 lens which has a ton more extra functionality such as custom modes and cheaper. The EM10 IV seems only really of interest to anyone who has never used a Mk I or II. They would have to bring custom modes back in to make me at all interested.

[@angelicagrisales8342]

Which lens would you recommend for traveling with this camera?

[@atmosphere8084]

Hi! Great review! Where can I get that housing around the lens that you have on your camera?

[@mkoschara]

Great review. It's nice to see that the UK still loves their "peas!" (At 12:12). Good luck with Brexit.

[@Red35Photography]

LOL, Brexit... oh well, the story continues

[@gerardolombana]

as a beginner i just bought this camera, what two lens would you recommend with this, for city and nature photography

[@Red35Photography]

That solely depends on your budget. For city and nature landscape, you probably want a wide angle lens, but not too wide, as it needs some thinking to shoot. So, I would recommend a general purpose zoom like the 12-45mm f4 PRO, small but very high quality lens. This will be your main lens on the camera. Then add a kit long tele zoom like the 75-300mm will be good for those occasional long shots. These two should serve you well. The first lens is a little bit more expensive but really good quality. Hope this helps.

[@gerardolombana]

@@Red35Photography Gracias !!!!!

[@narayanidevidasi6043]

thanks for this video, got one question for you: Does this Olympus EM10 camera become warm after being turned on for a few minutes without shooting videos(just looking through menu or shoot pictures)? I live in a tropical place, previously owned a Fuji xt20, and as soon as I turned it on, within 2 minutes I could feel the warmth in hand, and totally turned off my passion for shooting. So this potential issue is my biggest concern, would like to hear your input, thanks a lot.

[@letni9506]

Still not sure if I should get this or the Gx9. I like my panasonic cameras but this looks nice. I really like the look of it and gives me that old style feeling. Sure there's not much in them but as much as I want this one moving to another brand isn't easy.

[@Red35Photography]

I personally think the EM10 IV is a great camera with enough features to keep you entertain for a while. GX9 is very 'functional' but lacks charms, but that's my personal comment.

[@ordinosaurs]

if I may... I still have a GX9. It's a good camera on paper. The images are good, and sometimes surprisingly so (l.monochrome D is gorgeous). But. The camera itself is very "blocky" and the handling is awkward. The controls are "strange" (back wheel and front wheel not on the same level and different, exposure compensation dial very stiff, the list goes on). The camera gobbles batteries like there's no tomorrow. Ultimately, I bought again an E-M10 mk II and I will sell the GX9. Make what you wish of that...

[@daysofgrace2934]

Hi Jimmy, was thinking about buying this to replace my Mk1. It would be mainly for the enhanced AF and OLED EVF. I would lose the all-metal body of M10 mk 1 and the use of the BCG1 (separate grip) - I have the 12-40mm, 40-150 f2.8 Pro and the Lumix Leica 25mm F1.4. My question is how good is the Eye/Face detect with CAF+tracking. I have seen online demos of the Sony A6400 real-Sony class performance but on previous Olys it was pretty crap...

[@rosewhite---]

How do I find and set the self timer?

[@juanpablolopez9041]

Great video Jimmy , big fan ,thanks for the info I have the em10 mk3 and i love it, do you think the mk4 would be better for wildlife,bird photography etc than the mk3 or not huge difference to change.

[@Red35Photography]

thanks Juan! Well, that solely depends on what type of wildlife you want to do. For bird in flight, I would still recommend minimum of EM5 III since it has hybrid AF and does better job in tracking moving objects. However, for stills, Oh yes, this is better than Mark III. 20MP does bring up details quite a bit and the ability of silent shutter is a plus over Mark III if you need to be discrete.

[@MP-mh1tu]

Nice but does it have microphone input and headphones?

[@Red35Photography]

Cheers. No, EM10 doesn't have any mic or headphone jacks. The next model up that has these features is EM5 III

[@MP-mh1tu]

@@Red35Photography Thank you for your reply. Then I guess the EM5III will be thew one I"m interested in

[@periscope7731]

Nice review. What lens and hood have you installed here? Is it affixed to an adapter?

[@Red35Photography]

The lens is Olympus 12mm f2 with the optional metal hood, also from Olympus

[@periscope7731]

@@Red35Photography Oh that’s great. Thanks.

[@LuvOfLalaland]

Can you recommend a similar price but good 4K video with auto focus? Thanks.

[@shasankgupta9460]

will you suggest me to buy this over canon eos rp ? i hv rp with 85mm

[@asanmartinjr07]

Do all Olympus lens features: aperture ring, image stabilization, autofocus work when using on a Panasonic camera body?

[@Red35Photography]

Olympus lens will work on Panasonic body, as long as they are micro four thirds. There's no aperture ring on any Olympus lenses. Also lens stabilisation will work on its own and cannot be used in conjunction with body IBIS. So you can either use lens IS or body IBIS but not both. Similar when a Panasonic lens on Olympus body. Other than that, everything works.

[@asanmartinjr07]

@@Red35Photography Much appreciated.

[@bohdanlonyuk9727]

Thank you for the nice review. How would you compare AF on mk4 with that one on panasonic gx9? Which camera has a better viewfinder? Thanks.

[@Red35Photography]

Both have similar EVFs in terms of resolution. Panasonic has slightly higher number but negligible in real use with this size. AF is also on par of each other, though the approach is different. I can never get use to Panasonic's DFD system, a little annoying in my eyes. In terms of speed, in normal AF, Panasonic may be just a hair line quicker, but in CAF, Olympus may be better and 'sticks' better with subject. The improved face and eye detection may also be a deciding factor too as Olympus is nice to use when photographing people.

[@bohdanlonyuk9727]

@@Red35Photography Thank you very much for swift and kind responce.

[@bohdanlonyuk9727]

@@Red35Photography Could you please advise how panasonic lenses (ie pl 15mmf1.7) will perform on olympus body (m10iv) in terms of AF? Thanks

[@stehlealexander]

Bluetooth to smartphone, panorama & flash. Better features than more expensive models. Hope JIP got the Message...

[@SurferDude001]

When recording 4k video can you use the 2x digital teleconverter (using the top plate button)? one of the Olympus specs web pages states One-push Movie Digital Converter - Not available....

[@Red35Photography]

Hi Phil, If you want to use digital teleconverter, I would suggest your video output in 1080. digital crop will make the footage look a little soft since Olympus' 4K is quite sharp but if your output is 1080, then it's not as obvious.

[@SurferDude001]

@@Red35Photography Hi Jimmy thanks for such a quick reply....yes I agree it will be softer than normal 4k but my thinking was that I could use it if I'm stuck. If I crop 4k video in post I'll be taking an 8mp view and cutting it down to 2mp (approx). The area of the sensor used if using the 2x digital teleconverter is pressed would be just under 4mp then upscaled by the camera to 4k. I would assume that would be a little sharper? Any thoughts?

[@Red35Photography]

@@SurferDude001 Correct but it depends on what software you use, some are better at 'digital upscaling' than others, while in camera crop (digital tele) is simply 'chopped' the frame and enlarge, so you may want to do a few tests then determine which way is better.

[@SurferDude001]

@@Red35Photography Hi Jimmy, I'm in the middle of some pseudo scientific tests on this and will probably post some details when I get time. Suffice to say I've just tested this on an E-M5 iii....for stills shooting (as others have tried before) there's not much between a crop in camera or in photoshop ... but for 4k video there is definitely a benefit using the in camera teleconverter compared to a 2x crop in post of a 4k clip. The theoretical availability is 1.35 times more pixel lines in height and my tests show the teleconverter frame grab giving an increase of around 1.25 times compared to a 2x crop in post. The difference is easy to see.....

[@AndrewSowerby]

I have the MkII, which I chose over the MkIII, because I didn't feel I needed the 4K video, and I far preferred the ergonomics and feel (those metal top and bottom plates, and a nicer grip). However, this MkIV seems to be bringing genuine improvements, and while I wouldn't consider upgrading for at least another year, and would rather spend money on lenses instead, if someone I know was looking to get into the system right now, I'd probably tell them to go looking for the best deal they can get for a MKIV. If its in your price range, it's worth it, and unless you're a pro, why would you need anything more?

[@Sjekster]

That's kind of the issue with these entry level camera's. Progress seems much slower than with higher end models, so there's usually very little incentive to upgrade from a mark 1 to a 2, 3 or maybe even 4. With the Pen range it's even worse, it feels like the only upgrade they make is to put a different number on it. E-PL8, 9 and 10 are almost the same camera. Most upgrades could've been handled by a simple firmware. I own a E-M10 mark 1 and I love it, but feel absolutely zero need to upgrade to a newer model. I use it as a back up camera. If I ever replace it, it probably will be with a E-M5, but not with another E-M10 I guess.

[@AndrewSowerby]

@@Sjekster the E-PL series are a bit of a loss leader for Olympus, and I suppose they want users to jump onto the E-M series cameras where there's more profit. They need to differentiate, but I like the way they do it - they don't cripple their lower level cameras. The E-PL cameras are really capable, but I see what you mean, the specs and features have barely changed in the recent models. I still think there have been significant improvements made in the E-M10s though, and there's a fairly big jump from the MkI to the MkIV, although you might not need any of that if it's not your main camera, as you said. When the MkIV becomes a used bargain, I can see myself picking one up.

[@ulfjonsson2122]

A very well executed review. / Ulf

[@Red35Photography]

Cheers mate.

[@abadyelhertany8604]

I am thinking between this and Sony zv e10 But I believe the sony with a small gimbal would be a better choice What do you think? It is mainly for vlogging

[@Red35Photography]

AF is better in Sony, but Olympus is better with stabilisation. Overall set up weight is about the same and depends on what lens you use, but Olympus EM10 is lighter than Sony ZV E10. I guess, if you are using it primarily for vlogging and if you want to use external mics, Sony wins since E-M10 doesn't have any option to put audio in. You can use internal mics like the Sony but again, I think Sony may be slightly better in audio for vlogging purposes. If budget can stretch, I would recommend OM-5 or E-M5 from Olympus, they are much better vlogging camera, you can see my vlog kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIGbnayCrc18qck this is from OM-5

[@abadyelhertany8604]

@@Red35Photography Thank you so much

[@Kopetefish]

While I think this is a great camera, I find it really sad what Olympus did to the mark III. It has the same processor but probably won’t be getting any of the software upgrades found in the mark IV. Afaik they even released a mark IIIs which is exactly that - a software update shipped as hardware. Other than the sensor, the screen and possibly the usb charging, they could’ve given us an almost equally good camera years ago.

[@madisonmackey8148]

I'm a beginner and will be traveling through the U.S. I'm definitely more interested in taking pictures, not videos. However, I would like to be able to photograph people and things in that are in motion because I like the feel and look that those pictures give. With all this in mind, would you recommend to me the III or IV? Thank you :)

[@Red35Photography]

Hi Madison, If you like photographing people, the latest Mark IV is better as its dedicated face/eye focus is really good, so you will definitely get better accuracy for that, especially for beginner, nailing focus is easier with it.

[@timslater9086]

Great camera, I have the Mark iii. The only downside for me is that there’s no way of using a wired remote release.

[@majim7140]

Is the olympus android app good? Currently thinking of upgrading from my lx100 just because of the horrible app support, I can't transfer my pictures. So frustrating

[@Red35Photography]

Hi, the OI Share app is consistent and will communicate with the camera very well, you can use it as a remote control, together with preview and download photos to your phone for sharing.

[@majim7140]

@@Red35Photography thank you. I am looking forward to test it once it arrives at my local store.

[@glensoh1059]

@@Red35Photography last I checked it didn't work for me and quite a few others... Do you have any issues with it?

[@Red35Photography]

@@glensoh1059 No, it works on my iPhone and I asked a friend to test on android, our apps seem to work. I can't test android as I don't have any.

[@glensoh1059]

@@Red35Photography thank you.

[@fotisvassis3123]

Thanks for the review. Does the video recording still has that 30 min limit?

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks for watching. Yes it still has a limit of 30-min.

[@steventhomas231]

Tempting to move from the mark 2 but i hate the way theyve gone all plastic on the bodies. Ive never been sold on the ' its to save weight ' argument. Undoubtedly its for cost cutting.

[@melvinch]

Olympus deserved to go bust just for doing that.

[@erictrem]

Do you think the Olympus Mark IV is better than the Sony A6100?

[@Arcade1959]

The Mark IV have more noise at high ISO than de Mark III ?

[@Red35Photography]

No, it doesn’t have more noise.

[@Arcade1959]

@@Red35Photography Is there less noise? I just saw on Dpreview the IV gives less noise from ISO 800 You agree ?

[@boatmanbermuda7255]

i would kill for pen 2 weather/water resistant

[@Red35Photography]

I think many would :)

[@scharkalvin]

Instead of skipping the mark "4" and going to mark "5" (because the Japanese regard the number 4 the same way westerners regard the number 13, IE: unlucky) they used the Roman Numeral IV to get around the superstition. Note that there is no Lumix G4 (but strangely, Nikon did make a D4 and an N4, the D4 suffers from "LCD rot").

[@cmartin_ok]

I still reckon mk ii is better than the mk III. Hopefully the mk iv is a reason to upgrade from mk ii although it seems very expensive for an entry level model, plus in the uk at the moment there is no body-only option

[@locatedeatar3642]

I think you better go for a used OMD-5, than for another camera for beginners.

[@MichaelGerrard]

No custom sets :-(

[@WMedl]

@@locatedeatar3642 What do you miss to take good images?

[@locatedeatar3642]

@@WMedl good lenses and know how to use them, I guess

[@Red35Photography]

Trust me guys, there are a lot of 'dedicated' EM10 users out there, their sole objective is to get the smallest and lightest retro looking and capable camera :D. EM10 fits the bill. Many stuck with Mark II because of a few obvious reasons. Mark III was a big departure in many areas but I am glad that Mark IV get quite a lot back, I guess the only thing lacking is the metal construction, which I don't really mind. Agree with many here, the initial price is a little high but generally everything has gone up, this Covid thing does help either. But over time, street price will come down. But if any one in UK and wants to get any Olympus gear, let me know, I can get some discount. However, it only works in Olympus website, and it may not have the best price. But for any new gear, if you need, then my discount will guarantee you get the cheapest at first.

[@AshidMadrawz]

Hi, thanks for the great review. I have an Olympus EM1 MK1 would you say this camera would be a decent upgrade?

[@haijiedeng1613]

Is there a 3.5mm microphone interface

[@Red35Photography]

haijie Deng no HaiJie, there’s no mic jack

[@K7.2023]

i just bought one! i can confirm she is fantastic! Plastic Fantastic...😂

[@CarloRosillo]

Does this have a mic jack?

[@Red35Photography]

No John, the Mark IV doesn't have a mic jack.

[@motretholic5263]

I have em10 mark 2 almost 2 years, and i doing many professional work from this camera

[@Moonrakerd]

the power button needs to be right handed, apart from that its great, I still have mk1 and its power button is also a bit strange but at least one handed

[@Red35Photography]

I can understand why. But it's kind of an Olympus thing, even their pro cameras are on the left.

[@Moonrakerd]

not the best tradition :D I have m5mk2 and I find that ON button placement dumb and annoying :D they could do better, especially as they are changing something in the interface in each generation, also so far I think m10mk1 is the better interface out of the 2 I have

[@InvertLogic]

What camera you shot your video?

[@Red35Photography]

EM1 III ;)

[@CharCoop017]

Can I blog with this

[@CharCoop017]

Vlog

[@LoveChromeOS]

Is the em10 mk4 best budget? Well probably not. When it came out it was about 650 bucks, u get a gx9 for that, which has a viewfinder that you can tilt and dual IS. The e m10 mk4 has no dual IS because lack of sync IS. Only the expensive Omd's can do that. That's the 2 most simple reasons why the gx9 is a better deal. Both have 20 Megapixel.

[@pauldby1479]

No PDAF..it has that Lumix disease will they ever learn?

[@Red35Photography]

Well, if you haven't tried, Olympus new AF algorithm is way better than Lumix, especially video :)

[@eagleeatsmonkey3621]

Full frame Lmount Olympus required

[@Red35Photography]

L mount is collapsing and the group are playing blaming game at the moment for poor sales. Hold your horses, I think we all know that you want to be a brand to focus on one thing and be great at it. Panasonic has spreader too thin and so are others. Unless they have unlimited budgets, it's difficult unless you are already in that market segment. Sigma's L mount camera is also a flop so far with virtually no sales. The only camera bodies that sold consitantly is the Leica SL series, which has its own fanfare for over 5 years. Panasonic hasn't sold well with their S series despite being one of the most capable ones yet Canon and Sony have once again put their foot down and continue their quest to become the best FF mirrorless world. Look, if one is unhappy with Olympus because they are not FF, then they should consider other options as we know that they are now continue to focus on MFT under JIP.

[@keithvlogs1]

at this day and age... I really dont know why you wouldn't put an ef joystick on there? even the x100f has one with a tiny form factor it is still in a better position and more plactical than touching the screen or bending your thum,b down on the arrow pad. even the xe-3 had it. Huge turn off.

[@Jennifer_Prentice]

Better for still photography then lets say a 450 dollar Canon T7?

[@Red35Photography]

Yes, Canon T7 is not bad but definitely not something I would say 'advance' in techs. It hasn't got image stabilisation, nor any computational photography features. Olympus has many that will help you understand and achieve better results easier. It's also smaller and lighter (especially when combined with lenses).

[@Jennifer_Prentice]

@@Red35Photography Thank you :)

[@fsjproject9362]

Why olympus industry?

[@spritual_enlightenment]

No PDAF & mic input. Shame on you, Olympus.

[@stehlealexander]

iPhone has live ND, so...

[@andersistbesser]

The camera is nice but i will never buy a cam without a flipout screen. Flip downs are a joke

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks for watching mate. It's always a preference thing, I used to love flip down screens, but ever since I started filming, I much prefer flip out :)

[@SilverHalides]

If someone made an 'L bracket" for the E-M10 mk IV, could that not help to overcome the blocked screen problem for, e.g. vloggers, while maintaining the advantages that some photographers see in flip down screens?