OM System OM-1: Get More Precision in Focus & Other Quick Tips ep.379

How to move the focus point in smaller steps for more precision. More setting shortcuts to save you time.
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[@robertcudlipp3426]

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[@RobTrek]

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[@1957PLATO]

Proving once again that you are the number 1 source for all things Oly or OM.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Plato.

[@roycejohnson929]

Again some great tips Rob , Thanks

[@RobTrek]

Thanks!

[@JanicevD]

thanks much! i've been trying to figure out how to get smaller step moves on the focus point. Yay - now I know!

[@RobTrek]

Happy to help!

[@themagicallandscape]

such a helpful tutorial! The large jumps in the AF point was killing me. Never seen that in other systems, but glad there's a fix for it. Thanks!

[@RobTrek]

Happy to help!

[@wolfamri]

Thank you, the info on the OM-1 focus points is exactly what I was looking for!

[@RobTrek]

Glad it was helpful!

[@spanksen]

You should really be an OMDS Ambessedor Rob, so many great Tips, thank you so much

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. Titles may have it's privileges, but I like being just a guy with a camera.

[@robertcudlipp3426]

You are far too modest.

[@barrieharwood5645]

Hi Rob, Being new to OM-Systems OM-1, (having moved from Canon FF), there has been a lot to learn and learning new kit gets in the way of creativity and creating images generally. Your videos have been absolutely fabulous and the issue this one in particular addresses, has been driving me crazy. Thank you

[@RobTrek]

Happy to help and thank you for your support!

[@kimginnerup5819]

I just ran into that problem with the focus steps. So thanks. With all the configuration the camera has, it should be possible to make an overall setting. Move by the size of the focus area.

[@RobTrek]

Glad I could help!

[@ericlundquist3466]

Promise to get you on the 19th, and that's mainly because of the last 20 seconds of this video. Jk, even though that was awesome. Video is super helpful.

[@klackon1]

Top job Rob: thanks a lot.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks! I try.

[@skamat2]

Amazing video very helpful. Thank you for sharing

[@RobTrek]

Thanks,, Samir!

[@soumyamukherji]

Thank You for this video. It made all my pain points disappear completely. This should be posted on the Olympus OM1 page.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks!

[@giannimoisson4000]

The explanations are very clear with you. Thank you.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks.

[@serenadenphoto]

A deep dive into the mysteries of OM-1 was very rewarding. Thank you Rob!

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Lars. I try.

[@hedydd2]

really interesting to see the differences between the new OM-1 and my [or any other] E-M1 Mkii. Mine can do most things that the OM-1 can, apart from the face/eye detect feature which I have to manually switch on or off in the SCP. The focus point set with small increment adjustment is easy on mine because I have the focus point settings activated with the left pad button and when set to the smallest point and shooting, a press to the left activates the grid and the point is then navigated by the control pad. The Mkii doesn’t have a joystick option for those that didn’t know. While the grid and focus point is active [green] a long press of the OK button brings it back to the centre point or whatever point has been otherwise pre-set as the home point.

[@RobTrek]

I used to toggle between the HP and Center with a single click. I would set the HP to the upper right third when I was taking pictures of my dog. That way it framed roughly the way I wanted. Then when I wanted Center, I just toggled back to it.

[@Mr.Tralfamadorian]

The last 20 seconds is everything.

[@RobTrek]

Haha! Thanks.

[@droeder2836]

Thanks for these tips. I think you’ve talked about them before, but I’ve implemented them in my camera today!

[@RobTrek]

You're so welcome!

[@jacquesdemers1998]

Thank you for the focus point menu.

[@RobTrek]

Glad to help!

[@allenthomas4280]

So very helpful! After switching to more accurate single point autofocus I was finally able to pinpoint birds surrounded by branches. Up until this I was really missing the Panasonic G9's near / far focus settings for birds in trees. Thanks Rob. I also listen to most of your 2 hour podcasts, but after the fact. Thanks for your detailed approach!

[@RobTrek]

Thanks, Allen!

[@dieseldavey]

Excellent video 👍🏻

[@RobTrek]

Thank you very much!

[@michaelhall2709]

This was incredibly useful. I’ve updated the Custom Modes on my OM-1 accordingly. Thank you!

[@RobTrek]

Glad it helped!

[@greatplainsvisualproductio6534]

Thanks!

[@RobTrek]

Thank you!

[@daviedavids9625]

Thanks

[@RobTrek]

Thank you!

[@petecoady6676]

Excellent tips again Rob. Made some adjustments to both the OM-1 and the E-M1 Mark III👍

[@RobTrek]

Thanks!

[@livin1965]

Rob, thanks! Is there a way to make a cross that moves in 1 step increments?

[@JimDory]

Retiring my Canon 7d and 100-400 lens as after a day, as I approach 70, it makes my body sore carrying it. Got the OM-1 (used to have the OM-1 film camera until stolen in Tanzania many years ago) and hoping I can figure it all out. Different animal than I'm used to. Thanks for your videos.. big help in getting a handle on it.

[@RobTrek]

Glad to help!

[@HokKan]

The thumbnail is hilarious, I love it!

[@RobTrek]

Thanks! Just having some fun.

[@ponymoore6140]

Thank you, Rob. That was just what I needed :)

[@RobTrek]

Glad to help!

[@RichardBerson]

Rob, Great as always. Is there any way to use the half-shutter and AEL/AFL trick if I'm already using back-button focusing? I guess I could set up a custom mode, but don't want to waste the limited options on the OM-5 for that. Thanks

[@MarcRoss]

I learn some things again. A coffee is in order, thanks.

[@RobTrek]

Thank you!

[@peterbudd1803]

Thanks Rob - I never realised that about the focus point moving in jumps, it was always very annoying. Sorted now. Here is a question for you. If in A or S mode and you have the single focus point selected ( the normal one that jumps when moving it ) and you have Face Detection on. If you then use spot metering the camera turns off Face detection and you cannot turn it on while spot metering is selected. However, if you use the custom single point focus that does not jump three places as in your video then Face Detection remains on when you select spot metering. That seems very odd to me.

[@RobTrek]

Wow! Good catch. Actually, I think it makes sense. Since the custom mode can be set to any size, face detect is not disabled and spot metering is fixed to the center area. So even if you make C1 a single point, the camera will treat it like a cross point or larger. I'll have to make a video about this because spot metering is usually tied to a single point and if people follow my instructions in this video they might not be metering the way they want.

[@mxyptlk]

Wow...thanks again Rob lol I was really frustrated at only being able to move the single point in 'jerky' increments ! Now I can have really fine movement it sure makes life easier....

[@RobTrek]

Happy to help!

[@borjemalmstrom5730]

Tack!

[@RobTrek]

Thank you!

[@hokkanlo849]

You are the best.

[@RobTrek]

Thanks. I try.

[@hokkanlo849]

@@RobTrek I did a test last night of all the video settings. I found that all the 1080 modes were significantly less detailed than the 1080 on my GH5 and Lumix G9. The 4K footage in all the H264 modes are also less detailed. The 4K24 in H265 is more detailed than the GH5/G9, but the 4K60 in H265 is again, significantly softer. Have you noticed this as well? I was hoping that the OM-1 would be the GH5 we all wanted. 4K60 in 10 bit with good autofocus in video. But from my findings, the 4K60 in the highest quality is noticeably worse than the 4K24 in the highest quality.

[@RobTrek]

@@hokkanlo849 Unfortunately, I don't own any m4/3 Panasonic cameras to compare. I have the Panasonic S5 which is awesome and definitely better than the OM-1 for video. I'm not surprised the GH5/G9 are better than the OM-1 for video. That said, I found the quality more than adequate for the work that I do. In fact, the OM-1 has replaced my S5 for my paid work. I can only assume the bitrate on the Panasonics is much higher, hence will give sharper results on anything moving. Most of my work is doing property videos where I pan very slowly.

[@hokkanlo849]

@@RobTrek the 4K24 H265 bitrate is quite low, only 77Mb/s, but the image is more detailed than even the G9's 10 bit 4K24 at 150Mb/s. It is so hard to determine how detailed the image will be with only the spec sheet alone. Before I got the OM-1, I just saw the specs 4K60, 10 bit, and that alone meant it would be superior to the G9/GH5's 4K60, 8 bit. I didn't think there would be such a noticeable image quality difference between the 4K60 footage of these cameras. Likewise, the bitrate doesn't tell me much either. I would expect the 77Mb/s 4K24 H265 10 bit from the OM-1 to be much worse than the 150Mb/s 4K24 10 bit from the G9, but it was surprisingly even better.

[@無涯]

Hi Bob, thanks for the tips. I have trouble keeping my custom focus points preference in my custom menu. The custom focus points do not come up again when I turn my custom menu from say C1 to C2. Is there anyway to go around with this?

[@RobTrek]

Hi Lisa, I answered your question today in a video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZLShKuHarloe8k Let me know if that worked for you.

[@DreamWeaverProd]

Hi Rob, not sure how often you read these but I have followed what you said here and as soon as I go on to change to the C1 it comes up with small point and I can't do anything else with it. What am I doing wrong?

[@RobTrek]

Hi Debra, what exactly happens when you select C1 focus point? Does the not focus, or does the focus point not move or change, or does the camera freeze up entirely. If you can, record the back of the screen on what is happening with your phone and email me rob @ robtrek . com Thanks.

[@stevenbirds2920]

Thanks for another interesting and helpful video. Quick question re the segment dealing with using the shutter release button and the bbf button to differentiate where the camera focused when one has face detection on. Is it the case that you have to disable the half press of the shutter button to acquire focus or not? My thoughts being that if not immediately you had used bbf to acquire focus and used the shutter button to take the picture, the camera would refocus on whatever the focus point was looking at? Thanks.

[@RobTrek]

If you're holding the AF-On button down, the half press shutter will not make the camera refocus.

[@LeslieG-py3ul]

Hi Rob. I sent you an email but thought I would reach out here as well to inquire if you offered private zoom lessons. Thank you.

[@RobTrek]

Hi Leslie. I sent you an email today. -Rob

[@robertcudlipp3426]

Want to make it clear that I don't own this camera. May be missing the point, but would have thought that inbuilt IAF would have automatically focused on eye using IAF?

[@hemligx-sson8202]

Yes, you are missing the point!

[@hedydd2]

@@hemligx-sson8202 The point being that iAF is not always appropriate for the scene and therefore needs a quick method of de-activation/re-activation other than switching it in the SCPanel.

[@robertcudlipp3426]

Oh well, at least I have the comfort of knowing there are such pleasant YT site members who will point out the error of my ways. It would seem that the new wunderkid may not be the all tapping and dancing beast many have sprinted to gush over.

[@hemligx-sson8202]

@@hedydd2 I know, yo should explain that to Robert. He obviously didn’t understand or or probably his goal was to try to throw some crap on that camera. Interesting that old guys like him behave like an adolescent.

[@hedydd2]

@@robertcudlipp3426 Not sure what you mean but you can surely see that a person’s face may not always be the primary subject of a composition?

[@shuntachi]

I've been doing fine (1 step) focus point setting in Custom1 for months now. I searched if I can change the steps from 3 to 1 for preset settings (single/small/large) but I couldn't. I had to use custom setting. I don't understand why default is set to 3 steps, can't utilize the 1,053 focus points.

[@RobTrek]

It is odd that single point is 3 steps by default. Thanks.

[@jensnikolajandersen1101]

Hey Rob. I have a question not related to your video. From time to time when in playback mode (where you take a look at the pictures taken), the camera (OM_1) keeps going away from this function every time I make the slightest move of the camera og tilt it. There is no consistency in it, but it is pretty annoying that I have to keep going back in playback mode because it jumps away. Do you know how to deal with this problem? 🙄

[@RobTrek]

That is odd. The only thing that would make it jump away is touching the shutter button. I can't think of anything that would cause this so I don't really have a solution.

[@jensnikolajandersen1101]

Ok, thank you for your reply!

[@joshuamorganstein8905]

If you are holding the camera close to your face when you were reviewing the picture, perhaps the EVF sensor is detecting proximity of your face and switching off the play mode?

[@stephencopland1053]

👍

[@RobTrek]

Thanks!

[@nightowl660]

Hi Rob, thanks for your always useful and interesting videos... I wanted to ask you something: why when I choose the focus box (I always choose the "small" one which includes 9 single points, 3x3) when then during the recovery I press the shutter button halfway and the focus takes place ... only one (or sometimes more than one) of the 9 small dots inside the "small" frame lights up in green but the external perimeter of the frame " small" doesn't light up green as well but stays gray and faded instead? I remember that in my previous E-M1 mk3 that same box glowed green in its perimeter and not just in the small dots inside it. This thing bothers me a lot because my vision is no longer that of youth and I would always like to see the "small" box light up in its outline because often seeing only a small point light up inside it I don't understand if the camera has really focused or not. Is it a limitation of the new OM-1 that no longer has this possibility or is there an option in the menu to activate it that I didn't find?? Thank you if you will answer me, and sorry for my english but I'm an italian amateur photographer... :-))

[@RobTrek]

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to do this.

[@nightowl660]

@@RobTrek Ok, thanks Rob for your answer, you are kind and prepared as always: it is a pity however that on the OM-1 they have not maintained this very useful possibility, it would have really facilitated me a lot for my eyesight which is no longer perfect: you think it is something that can be implemented perhaps through a future firmware update?

[@erniehigginson50]

Thanks!

[@RobTrek]

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[@davidneto6368]

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[@bobwest7389]

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[@RobTrek]

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