OM System OM-5 Review

[@johnwhiteaway2795]

I am an Olympus shooter with both Em1 mk3 and EM1x real shame to see that this release of the OM5 has been a lazy incremental update with very little improvement. With the OM1 they moved away from the old eco system of Olympus and that was great but this feels a large step back in terms of moving forward opportunity missed by the new company.

[@sneakyscorpia]

I have the EM1 MK3 too, how do you think this OM5 compares to it? Should I recommend one over the other (I am loving the MK3, been easy to understand and use as a newbie to photography :) )

[@johnwhiteaway2795]

@@sneakyscorpia Personally if I had to recommend either the cameras i would push people towards the EM1 mk3 every time. Dual card slot alone is enough to warrant it over the OM5. I think the EM1 mk3 has better AF and all the same if not better settings the EM5 has in a metal body with better weather sealing and also it is much sturdier. OM5 is what the EM5 mk3 should have been. this new camera for me isnt worth the money if it was 200 dollars less then maybe worth it but at the current price point definitely not. If someone wants a better camera than the EM1 mk3 or EM1x then I guess OM1 is the way to go BUT for me I am very happy with what I have and wont be upgrading till OM systems up the mp count.

[@johnwhiteaway2795]

@@ronmurray7349 The dual card slots alone is enough for me to dismiss the OM5 in favour of the EM1 mk3. I just think personally for a supposed NEW camera and OM systems 2nd release this seems very underwhelming and lazy from their part. I myself and I am sure many others were expecting more from this release.

[@Zetaphotography]

[@nate3432]

I'm in the market for a used camera and am looking between the E-m1 mk3, E-M1x, and the OM-5. The benefit to me of the OM-5 is the no limit video recording and the smaller battery because I have an E-PM1. I know the E-m1 mk3 and E-M1x can output raw to the atomos ninja, the OM-5 is not listed on the atomos compatibility list. At this point I'm not going to be shooting raw but it'd be convenient to not have to switch bodies to do so in the future. I'd get a used E-m1 mk3 before the OM-5 unless I need no limit recording. If I'm buying new, it'd be the OM-5 probably. E-m1 mk3 and E-m1x also are compatible with om webcam beta, which I've never used, but that's nice. Someone who doesn't want Live ND, the joystick, starry af, and is ok with the subpar microphone might go with the E-m1 mk2 and save a bit of money.

[@mjkarger89]

So basically it's an EM5III with an uglier logo and outdated sensor/ports. Congrats OM Systems.

[@siyuq5620]

I can’t imagine myself buying a camera with “OM SYSTEM” printed on it. It doesn’t even sound like a camera brand.

[@falale4797]

Agreed. I miss the Olympus and the Zuiko brand, they are more than just names. OM systems sounds soulless 😢

[@sulaimanahmed013]

Exactly!!!

[@Zaibacu]

Final nail in the coffin 🥲

[@EDHBlvd]

Exactly.

[@professionalpotato4764]

Micro USB in 2022, at $1,199 lol If this was at $599 yeah whatever. But at $1,100 I'll pass. Maybe I'll just wait for the a7000 series from Sony.

[@ChristofferETJ]

At a much cheaper price, a USB-C port with a crappy 0.48 gb transfer rate could be excused. But micro-USB has no place in today's gadgets.

[@williamhumber5890]

Is the weather resistance actually any different or did they just choose to rate it on this model? If they couldn't be bothered to update the USB port to USB-C I find it really hard to believe they redesigned the weather sealing.

[@mjkarger89]

Agreed.

[@tomasmikeska]

yes, they have used new type of rubber sealing

[@Leptospirosi]

If the tripod mount start breaking apart, we'll get confirmation if you hypothesis.

[@crimlarksSteve]

@@Leptospirosi Yeah - I was kind of wondering if they corrected the issue with tripod mount in the laste version

[@KarlRock]

I’m a Olympus E-M5 Mark III vlogger. I was hoping to upgrade. Ow well. No point. My E-M5 is in the shop right now because the right channel of the external mic input stopped working. Also the thumb rest has started to peel off. Wish I could go back to Panasonic, but autofocus is important for vlogging. Guess I’ll keep waiting 😢

[@thrallingFRglory]

Never imagined you would be a fellow M43 user as well!

[@KarlRock]

@@thrallingFRglory yeap, I travel alone, so I need to travel light, hence M43. Plus the weather sealing has helped me vlog in rain a few times when I absolutely had to shoot because I was only in a place for 1 day

[@QuickQuips]

The em1x is supposedly a good vlogging camera but it is quite chunky. If you can go to Japan the used prices there are insane. Got mine for 670 usd.

[@trym2121]

Go om1!

[@shenZ007]

Hey Karl, great vlogs you make. Hope you find the camera which delivers. I helped myself with G110 ...

[@hoiley555]

You guys were too kind, this has to be one of the lowest effort upgrades I can recall seeing... and after almost 3 years!

[@shortie8512]

Noooo… the Em1mk3 was just as bad!

[@Simoneister]

@@shortie8512 The EM-1 III at least introduced USB-C charging and a joystick!

[@emerana]

@@Simoneister if I ever needed to replace my 5.3 it would be a 1.3 not the OM-5. USB-C PD charging and ext power while shooting is a big deal for me

[@williamhumber5890]

@@Simoneister The E-M1ii already had USB-C.

[@Simoneister]

@@williamhumber5890 Yes, but not for charging

[@jnrfalcon]

Now it’s official… I waited for nothing…

[@YannisSinadinos]

The rumours keep confusing people waiting for a mini OM1 and they are complaining for getting mini EM1.3. I really enjoyed EM5.3 so far and will enjoy OM5 as they are great cameras. I loved the designed of EM5.3 and I am happy to see the same retro look. I am will only compain about the missing USB Type C

[@TITAOSTEIN]

But What about the menu System? For Those using the OM5 as a B Cam alongside the OM1 will be difficult.

[@YannisSinadinos]

@@TITAOSTEIN you are right... This will be my second complain

[@Nierdar]

When the o-m 5iii came out I was thinking they are very lazy. No it looks like they have given up completely. A micro usb port for a $1000+ camera? This package may would have worked for an e-m 10 v for $700. Really looking forward what fuji will bring with it's xt5.

[@tomasmikeska]

I still don't get what is with this micro usb / usb-c blaming? For what you need usb-c for?

[@Nierdar]

@@tomasmikeska For faster charging and file transfer speed and to get rid of one more cable while traveling.

[@OfficialSushiSystemAmbassador]

Olympus, uhm, sorry, OM System going full Pentax here. I gave them the benefit of the doubt after they released just one body, but now after the second one the situation starts to look dire. This was kind of expected, though. But you know what? Hope never dies. The only positive thing is that they at least maintain the product lines, so you don’t have to get rid of previously purchased lenses & other accessories from the Olympus system. I will happily continue using my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III, but I am not sure I will ever buy a product from OM System.

[@drtod]

The biggest miss from this camera is not using the new menu system from the OM-1. Using the legacy menu system from the EM-line instead of OM-line sends a mixed signal to consumers on OM technology direction with their products. Perhaps this will be corrected with a firmware update (hopefully). If OM.S reduces their product line to: OM-1, OM-5 & Pen, then the OM-5 product makes sense. The final question is will their be an OM-1x?

[@emerana]

I'd buy an OM-1x if its lineage mirrors the EM1x. The OM-1 is a joy to use and I hope it's not a swansong product

[@Homs86]

tbh the menu still looks like the evolt e-510 or something, lol.

[@numerous_use]

If OM System is competing with itself, I guess you can persuade yourself it's a decent camera. However, the competition offers more at this price point. This should be a 800$ camera at max.

[@Leptospirosi]

Agreed! This is an OM10 at best: a budget camera with some old hardware and an improved software. As an early adopter of the EM5mkll I was blown away about how ahead of anything it was: live time, 5stop IBIS, super compact, high Res shot, perspective correction, silent digital shutter, a decent EVF (2014), pc sync port, all things unheard of, even on the EM1. So many professional photographers bought one for REAL work (Lavikka Photography for macros for example). Look at us now... A budget plastic camera with 6 years old hardware and a new firmware, USB2 and possibly a tripod mount that still breaks apart for the same price the EMII was sold at!

[@bladestorm1980]

The same parts are reused . And old and old sensor are used all the time . The end of 2022 is almost 2023 still using "Micro USB" ??! 2.36 million EVF points how dare you charge such a high price?

[@SunePedersen88]

OM System are digging their own grave here. What a letdown. What could have been them punching in the OM System brand into peoples minds seems just to be a firmware update for the E-M5 MkIII. I mean other companies have brought more features with free firmware updates into existing cameras than this "update".

[@zanisgardening123-]

Doubtful the om1 has been a great success

[@SunePedersen88]

@@zanisgardening123- But they cannot rely on a single product to carry their company. They should have spent 6-12 months more on something substantial.

[@mack_solo]

It feels kinda... sad. I thought OM1 was "the transitional" camera, and now OM Systems would sweep us with a new, from the ground up, model of OMnessness. I guess they are in more trouble than I hoped for if this is their offer to the run-up to black friday and Xmas.

[@ald4989]

Lazy manufacturers

[@sorryaboutnico]

Wow they completely dropped the ball… 😢

[@normanfranke4041]

Excellent review. I guess I vote for “legitimate niche camera” since its hard to find a lightweight weather-sealed camera with those features at that price point. Weather sealing usually comes at a premium and certainly the R10 can’t compete on that point.

[@darkftforce]

CAD$ 1920 just for the body with that tiny sensor.....who do you think OM is fooling with? who will buy this? the good lenses are as expensive as any Canon, Nikon and Sony lens. we have option to buy full frame body in a smaller package from the Big 3 under CAD$ 1000.....then whats the logic? it even cant match Canon R10.

[@orangorill]

Same old sensor, same terrible plastic build, micro USB. This is pretty much a camera that seriously disappointed three years ago. Sad to say, I guess I'm switching to Fuji.

[@KyleGustafson1986]

As an OM1 owner, it would be tough to pick this up as a second body. Reverting to the old menu system, lack of usb-c, and lack of subject detection make this feel like I'm not in the new OM ecosystem. To be fair, I shoot mostly birds, so need the bigger grip. Probably wouldn't have purchased it either way.

[@deathdoor]

The "new" Olympus is the "worse" Olympus? Camera segmentation is so stupid, who will they win with these limitations?

[@TelmanRaoofi]

OM System cameras have a lot of potential that the company ignores. And I don't really understand why. Essentially there is no other camera that's as light, as feature packed. They could really modernize their camera and improve AI which is their stronghold. They could easily make a splash in the market. Though they prefer just to survive. Maybe they're trying just to have someone in the market to have time to build something really good for the next generation. P.S. I like that they didn't change the body. I think they should be like apple. Don't change the design when you don't need. That way, they can save money and focus on real work (which they didn't). Hope they make better choices for next one.

[@ToxicGopher]

I agree. But I prefer the older M5ii design. Perhaps one of the best looking cameras ever. In my opinion:)

[@TelmanRaoofi]

@@ToxicGopher you may be right. I am not saying om5 design is good. I am saying that it is good to keep the design for several generations and instead, work on internals. That way, they could keep the cost down and spend the money where it matters. Look what apple is doing with iphone and no one complains that they keep the same design for 5 years. They are still very successfully selling iPhone se with a design that belongs 5 years ago at least.

[@silentpeakphoto1845]

@@TelmanRaoofi I agree completely. USB-C and a decent menu is least we can ask for. I have the m5ii, and I doubt I'll ever get rid of it. Just to damn good looking - especially with a 17mm F1.8 attached :)

[@pavelperina7629]

I don't understand it neither. Panasonic released their best MFT camera for photographers: G9 in late 2017. Then they upgraded G80 to G90 in April 2019. Since then they are silent. I think it branched into two systems: small one like range finder style camera with small fixed prime lenses and big one like DSLR style camera about as big as full frame cameras (which is fine for ergonomics and display) and zoom lenses. Small ones can be justified imho. Big ones - I don't know. Expensive zoom lenses with low aperture on a big body is very versatile system, but one may possibly buy APS or FF camera with regular zooms, possibly worse stabilization for the same price as G9 with Panasonic-Leica lenses. Most pocketable camera which is basically direct upgrade of GF1+20mm/f1.7 is Fujifilm X100V. It nicely complements my G80 with 12-60mm, 45-150 zooms and olympus 45/f1.8. Of course Panasonic is way more versatile, but I rarely use it since I have Fuji. And I knew it, cause I used GF1 much more than later cameras. But Panasonic focused on high end cameras and video and then gave up and I think Olympus went the same way.

[@loco240]

Hi, Chris, and thanks for a very balanced review of this new camera model from OM System. As an owner and user of both the E-M5 Mk III and the OM-1, I think I'm in a position to make some experience based commentary on this camera. I'm just going to throw some things out there in no particular order. 1. Yes, the external body is virtually identical to the E-M5 Mk III. And I love the E-M5 Mk III body. Other people who see it, love the E-M5 Mk III body. I get comments all the time, about how compact and attractive the camera is, how compact the lenses are, and how much it captures the retro look and feel of a film SLR from 30 or 40 years ago. 2. By not spending money on upgrading the USB port or adding a joystick or changing to a larger battery, OM System have brought the camera out for $900. That's based on the current offer of the OM-5 with Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-45mm f/4 PRO Lens, for $1600. The lens alone sells for $700 and is a bargain in that 24-90mm (full frame equivalent) segment which is so popular. Show me another camera selling for $900 right now with the quality, features, practicality, and style of the OM-5. 3. You mentioned some other brands that would be comparable. Having owned a few of the Sony a6xxx cameras, I know that those cameras are ugly little boxes with tiny batteries and the worst ergonomics of any camera I've handled. Despite having a larger APS-C sensor, the a6xxx cameras take inferior photos and they are really unpleasant to use. 4. This camera is, really, an E-M5 Mk IV. If the company was still Olympus, very likely that's what it would be called. And if that were the case, I think the reactions to all the improvements and upgraded features, at the same list price, would be really favorable. Think about the world circumstances when the E-M5 Mk III was released. No chip shortage, no pandemic, no war in Europe, no runaway inflation, no world economic instability, etc. And yet, here we are in 2022 with this improved new model, for the same or less money. 5. I think people should stop being whining complaining haters and look at what OMDS, a new company, has accomplished in two years. A new flagship camera that is so popular that only recently has it been available in stock from retailers. Several really excellent new lenses. A new and effective marketing approach that has clearly defined a group of target buyers for OM System products. And now, a solid upgrade new camera to replace the 3 year old E-M5. Many large, well established electronics firms have done far worse in the past two years.

[@Leptospirosi]

Yeah, another firmware upgrade sold as a whole new camera. OMDS might have learned something from Panasonic and the GH5II. Olympus used to blow away the professional competition with its 5 series up to the EM5mkll but now it's just recycling the same tired tech and trying ti sell it as "new". Not even the "new" not fantastic sensor? What's the point? 😒 This camera should be an OM10, at OM10 prices, and I'm being generous here.

[@Peizxcv]

OM is just a dead system like Pentax. The ever shrinking market is not enough to support so many companies

[@rebelredrabbit]

I had high hopes for this camera, but it's really disappointing that they did not update the sensor. A great review nonetheless, as always!

[@asstheticpictures]

that's one ugly logo

[@chedda7182]

No USB-C in 2022?

[@emokia15]

I got it today and... OMG... I have Sony A7III, Fuji XS10 and Fuji XH1. But I gotta say... Just IBIS, it hands down beat out all their IBIS. I handheld 2.5s and get 70-80% hit rate. Longest on A7III I can handheld is 0.5s and definitely less than 1s for XS10 and XH2. Ya the sensor is smaller but it has a lot of amazing features that I really like, e.g. handheld high res, live ND and live composite. Live composite is really great for night long exposure photography. All the cons... are valid but OM system cameras do still offer good features I wish Sony and Fujifilm offer. Having more completed in camera and allows less editing is really a big plus. So while everyone else is going bigger sensor size, I am going from full frame to apsc and to m43. I still have my a7iii with me cos it's a low light beast. But I am wanting to bring it out less and less.

[@tomshahriari6602]

I switched to Sony ff and love the incredible focus system but really miss Olympus ibis and rugged build quality. I also love that Olympus incorporates computational photography into their cameras, something entirely missing from my Sony.

[@herrreinsch]

I'm a big fan of Olympus, because of their color science and the amazing IBIS, but this camera is not the upgrade I was hoping for.

[@deltatom2459]

it's not an Olympus either...... Olympus died..R.I.P.

[@RyougiVector]

@@deltatom2459 OM stands for "Olympus Maitani". It is an Olympus.

[@deltatom2459]

@@RyougiVector I love Olympus, but this is a different company, different management, and different name. A reason for me not to buy. Hard to explain to somebody that's an Olympus if id does not say on the camera.

[@colb3590]

@@deltatom2459 Correct, Olympus no longer make camera's.

[@rauliflemington7045]

@@deltatom2459 Olympus did not die. They sold the imaging division of Olympus to JIP. This very same imaging division is now called OMDS. Olympus still retains a 5% interest in OMDS.

[@donvito9691]

I love my Olympus gear. The quality/compactness/ergonomics balancing act has been just about perfect for me. One of the bodies I own is the E-M5 II. Although my E-M1 II is clearly the superior model of the two, the E-M5 II is undoubtedly the body I use most often. For me it is just an absolute JOY to use. There is simply a kind of magic in how all of its key attributes come together. One of those attributes, to me, is build quality. My heart breaks knowing that OM Systems has decided to regulate this line of their system to the all too common world of cheap plastic camera materials. The E-M5III and now the OM-5 simply don't have the magic my E-M5 II has. I look forward to upgrading to the OM-1 at some point soon, but I'm disappointed in how the E-M5 line has in some ways 'devolved'. The solidly built little 'powerhouse' camera is no more.

[@gabithemagyar]

I fully agree. Although I have 3 Sony APS-C cameras, the EM5 mii is the one I almost always reach for unless I have a specific reason to use a Sony. I just love the feel and ergonomics of the EM5 Mii, part of which is that it feels so solid. the extra weight also helping to keep the shot steady. Unless the image quality for stills is much better on the OM5, I suspect that if I got one I would still prefer the EM5 mii !!

[@林沅慶-i9h]

no battery grip is so bad..

[@gregfeeler6910]

The E-M5 Mk III has a magnesium frame which holds the lens mount among other things. It has a polycarbonate outer shell, which is use for motorcycle helmets. Polycarbonate is lighter, stronger, and more impact resistant than metal. For aggressive use, I would expect the E-M5 Mk III/OM-5 to withstand drops and impacts with less permanent damage than a metal body. Remember, one of the most impact resistant cameras made is the TG-6 Tough and it is also made of polycarbonate. Olympus knows a thing or two about building tough cameras.

[@gabithemagyar]

@@gregfeeler6910 yes, I love the TG-6 and am waiting for a TG-7. It's my go to camera for local hikes. My comment about the OM5 body was not about its toughness. I am sure it is very sturdy. It's the weight of the Em5 mark ii in my hand that I like i.e. my comment was more about feel than sturdiness :-)

[@gregfeeler6910]

@@gabithemagyar Oh, I get that- I had an original E-M5, then an E-M1 Mk I, a couple of E-M1 Mk II's, and now an OM-1 (plus one of the E-M1 Mk II's and an E-P5), and I like the heft in the hand. I've also had a TG-1, TG-4, and now a TG-6. What a cool camera! However, carrying two of my big bodies with three lenses gets a bit heavy at times. The point of my reply was that Olympus reduced the weight of the E-M5 Mk III by 55 grams by using a polycarbonate shell which is likely as strong or stronger then the E-M5 Mk II's metal shell. It's not as astatically pleasing for some, though. Peace.

[@Veterans_for_Harris]

This camera will drive people to Pentax.

[@arttiz01]

I was specifically amazed at the lacking of USB-C 😮

[@ASMROW]

Worst release of the year. I am glad didn't wait for the release and went with Sony.

[@jaffarbh]

Sounds like the new company (OM System) has fired the entire R&D department!

[@arlenspatz6739]

I have zero interest in buying a new camera but I still love watching these reviews from you guys

[@nsevv]

wow...

[@inspirity668]

The most laughable part is watching the OM System ambassador's reviews.

[@WparuSlowach]

Better to stay with older Olympus cameras or get OM1. I still think that older Olympus cameras with 12/25/45/75 prime lens is more than enough for most amateur photographers for stills.

[@WidgetWW]

Hmm. I'm exactly the niche user you described. I just want something lightweight to take pictures of the family around the house and on vacation. I still have my Em5 mk1 and want to upgrade but don't want to change systems and have to sell my lenses. But this doesn't bode well for the future of the company. Not sure it's worth investing anymore in the system

[@obscurelines]

this is a collapsing system.

[@zanisgardening123-]

They have been saying that for 5 years… yet it still sells very well

[@KiinaSu]

@@zanisgardening123- well OM system sure tries hard to make it true

[@zanisgardening123-]

@@KiinaSu I dunno the om1 has been a big sales success.

[@Astrolavista]

I get why they would stick with the old body design, but not upgrading the menu system and charging port at the very least just seems lazy

[@graciaman]

Man I was such a big Olympus fan. The E-M5 Mark 1 got me into photography as a major hobby/side-gig. I thought OM System was going to carry on the legacy with the OM-1 being such a good start. This feels like a massive step backwards. :(

[@colb3590]

I'm still using an original E-M5 MK1, and can't see any reason to "upgrade" or change brands. It's a great camera.

[@graciaman]

@@colb3590 still one of my favorite cameras, to be sure.

[@deltatom2459]

it's a new company now... Olympus is gone... OM System is here..... if they just showed their company strategie ...than good night...

[@bravobrave7777]

OM System всё ещё имеет шанс

[@NOTLeavingLV]

Looking at this side by side with my Lumix G9... so it creates massive files, but has a microusb and USB2.0 connection. It makes no sense. This camera is five years newer and WORSE than the G9.

[@unn4medfeel1ng]

"We need to show our investors that we're working, let's just update some firmware and release as a new camera"

[@pjw2000]

I sense a candidate for your Worst of the Year list.

[@JeanV1986]

When you look up "disappointing" in the dictionary, you will find a picture of this camera.

[@ondraprochazka28]

Shame that OM-D E-M1 mark ii is still a better camera, even a it is no longer for sale.

[@tsintkaro701]

Em1 mark ii is one of the best camera ever made imo, perfact look, perfect performance and perfect reliability.

[@ceramicmagic4169]

Unfortunately there is just no competition if you want a light weight compact and water and dust proof camera at this price point. Panasonic is close but it’s aimed at videos and nothing beats that weatherproof rating

[@stevemurnan1702]

I guess this camera is aimed at those who want a small, compact, and capable camera but don't need the bells and whistles (and price) of the OM-1. I think the omission of the OM-1 menu system is a huge own goal though. I shot Canon for the last 14 years and because of the menu system and its high level of consistency, it takes minutes to get used to a new Canon camera. OMS should have done the same I feel.

[@TwoUpTourer]

I ordered one today for precisely the reason you give. Going high in the Himalayas, and I want a weatherproof smallish camera with good picture quality. Ticks my boxes

[@marklion315]

@@TwoUpTourer How did it work out for you?

[@key253]

I think its a bargain. For almost half the money you have most of the features of the OM1: same IBIS, handheld hi-res, Pro-Capture, perspective correction (every architect should have an OM camera), Live ND. The only things missing are the AF options ( should have been more important than de handheld hi-res) and the menu system. But it is 180 grams less heavy! That's almost two fantastic 1.8 OM lenses! And 20 MP is enough. I load my batteries always on a charger, so I don't understand all the fuzz about the USB port. OK the OM1 is better, but you pay for that and you have to carry that weight. While the most important feature of the OM system are the whole bunch of light weight and affordable 1.8 lenses. Combined with the IBIS it's a fantastic combination. Handheld in any situation. My only problem with the OM5 is the swivel LCD screen. It is more stills orientated, not mainly a vlogging camera. The PL10 should be for vlogging, without an EVF. It's a pity that most of the comments follow the negative tone that Chris has set.

[@Sunkissed1968]

You nailed it with your comment! ❤

[@johansphoto]

I really don't understand what the camera companies are thinking. They make a new start with the OM-system, develop a new menu system etc and then they don't include it in the OM5? If you are building a system you want a seamless user experience between your different models. People who are invested in the system might use the OM1 as their main camera and OM5 as the second body, then it makes absolutely no sense to not include the upgraded menu system and similar features. Lazy cripple hammer update. Once upon a time the EM5 ii was a ground breaking camera with many features that the older flagship did not have. The new OM5 just seems like an uninspired crippled OM1. Glad that I sold my m43 gear and moved on to other systems. The only thing I miss are the really small telephoto lenses. Fuji tend to make oversized zooms and with Sony being full frame telezooms get big.

[@harukinzaphod]

I was an early adopter of the Olympus MFT cameras and have still have the original OM-D E-M5, the E-M1 II, and the Pen F. I love the size and general handling of the Olympus cameras and they have some outstanding lenses but the sensor technology is ancient and I have issues with image processing when using Olympus cameras in extreme lighting conditions that I don't have in Nikon cameras. I will soon be rationalising my Olympus camera and lens line up. On my most recent vacation, I took a Nikon Z-fc and the slow 18-140mm zoom and it was perfectly fine. I just feel Olympus and OM Systems lost it quite a few years back and are just marking time on a minimal development budget. I cannot believe that OM Systems haven't implemented USB-C. That's just laziness, likewise the failure to update the menu system.

[@donalone]

Agree. The micro USB is not a good sign and make people wonder what happens to the culture of the company. I’m still using a 7 years old PenF today I find no camera to update (and not really necessary yet)

[@alaskalonghunters2990]

Great review and saved me the dissatisfaction of getting another camera of compromise. Thank you..

[@connormccaskill]

Very disappointed in this release but glad I own the OM-1. It truly has a gorgeous sensor. I dig it

[@politicallyincorrectpuppy]

I was hoping for the new menu system on the OM-1, USB-C, same stacked sensor, etc. Looks like I will go with my original decision - the OM-1. Micro USB in 2022 is a joke. I could work with one SDXC card slot but the OM-5 doesn't even have the same battery as the OM-1.

[@ValhallaGuild]

If this OMD company upgrade their product at this rate, they will go bankrupt in less than 5 years.

[@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST]

I was rooting for OM Systems, but this is a reheated old product. No one, not one single soul at the company had the foresight to think, "Hmmm, we need to make something that stands out from the older models."? 😢

[@the_morf]

The most important upgrade is the streamlining of the model name. "OM-D E-M5 III" is such a mouthful so the new name of "OM-5" is a bonus. But seriously I'm going to say this out loud as everybody else is thinking it, OM Systems just d1e already !! About as much use as nuns' breasts.

[@jonragnarsson]

Seems more like a replacement instead of upgrade. Just to keeping the production going. Probably also mixed with a bit of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" mentality. But still shows a lack of ambition for OM System.

[@the_morf]

Deluded olympus owners said there was no need to upgrade or change brands when OM systems took over. They said their current cameras and lenses work just fine and would last them for years. I guess OM systems listened to them and just gave them more of the same tech.

[@extremelydave]

As a long time Olympus user going back to the film OM1, I hate seeing their cameras being dogged, although the issues ARE real. I just want to see what the new EM1 will do. It better deliver or I think Olympus is going to have some harsh realities hit them.

[@deltaws]

Honestly the em-5 iii body is now discounted everywhere and it's an awesome camera. If you're in the market for an Olympus get the 5-miii for save for the om-1.

[@davebellamy4867]

Just got the EM5 Mark iii. Nice camera. Getting fairly deeply discounted. Much more functional in some ways than my EM10 Mark ii, though the quality feel of the EM10ii is definitely better with the magnesium alloy body.

[@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST]

I had the E-M10 II and it was an amazing camera. Almost got an E-M5 III, but the discounted Leica TL2 got my money. Incredible picture quality, but the thin body is uncomfortable to hold and I still want the Olympus for the other nice features. 😅

[@kevinbourke4038]

Totally agree. Save big heaps, go for an EM5 mk3. Yes I have one, together with the EM1 mk2 & EM1 mk3, the EM5 mk3 is really handy if you need a light compact camera. Does the job.

[@stoikerty]

such a shame, I have the e-m5iii and it is the most compact best stabilised system you can get. amazing combo with the 9mm f1.7 from panasonic. I love it but it's sad to see they're not making any worthwhile advances here. I feel that this should be OM System's Flagship Camera, but instead it's languishing with old tech and dated ports. The same is true for pancake lenses that are getting old. I would like to see a revival of reengineered pancake lenses for the m43 system; the panasonic 14mm, 20mm and olympus 17mm all need love. This is what I want: high end, compact, unparallel technology. Heck, even if you go bigger. go crazy and make the impossible a reality: a 45mm f0.8 with AF. take a leaf from sony's playbook and do something truly amazing.

[@key253]

Advances are made in the OM1, not in the budget version off course

[@stoikerty]

@@key253 I know that. Yet with that camera I feel they are competing in a market that doesn't care for those advances as much / except for the wildlife photographers - because those do appreciate the extra chunk of the OM1. Everyone else, including me, wants the smallest possible kit with the highest possible image quality.

[@key253]

@@stoikerty Yes you are right. It should be the flagship, because light weight is what MFT is all about. I never understood the heavy 1.2 lenses. Light weight like the Nikon 300mm f4 for instance that is 500 grams lighter and cheaper!

[@thisdavidlawson7082]

Micro 4/3rds is such a great format. I went from Micro 4/3rds to APS-C to Full Frame and then back down to APS-C and now Micro 4/3rds again. The size of the camera and the size of the glass is unbeatable in my opinion. The beauty of buying a system like this is you have two brands and lots of glass to choose from. I would definitely get this as a travel camera. Perfect size and good choices of smaller lenses. Too bad they did not knock it out of the park but at least they never shelved this body size.

[@norbert_engel]

Same here! Started with MFT, dabbled in APS-C, dove head-first into Full Frame....and now I'm back with my first love (never sold my MFT lenses btw)😬

[@nevertwenty]

y'all just indecisive

[@michaelblumfield3933]

When Olympus decided in June 2020 to sell its camera division to a private equity company noted only for buying Sony's Vaio computer division and doing very little to make it viable, many of us Olympus users thought this was the end of the line. The new owners, Japan Industrial Partners (JIP), didn't do much to alter that impression until they released the OM-1 earlier this year. It wasn't exactly a breakthrough camera, but it built on the strengths of Olympus and added some nice new features. So, maybe there was reason for optimism among Olympus fans and evidence not to dump their gear just yet? With this weak update of the OM-D EM5 Mark III, that optimism is questionable. I suspect that the OM-1 was what Olympus engineers and designers had turned over to JIP as they sold the company, not something that JIP created on its own. This OM-5 appears at best an effort to tread water for JIP, hoping to float on whatever revenue it returns for basically zero investment in R&D. The final test will be in whatever OM System does with the next body it releases. But I'd say the likelihood of JIP producing something that keeps up with Sony, Canon, or even Fuji or Nikon is low. After all, when's the last time you heard about a really impressive new Vaio laptop?

[@Lucamitm]

What do you shoot ? I’m a sony user but looking for something small for bird photography, is olympus good for this ? Thanks

[@WW-sf4kc]

I have owned the E-M5 MkIII for a year now and I really like this camera. The OM System disappointed me with the premiere of the OM-5, especially when we look at the price of the new model and the very successful OM-1. For me so far, only buying the OM-1 makes sense.

[@sz1294]

Best Camera ever! I love and more important: I use it📸

[@JasonSetley]

Kind of seems like a lazy attempt just to put a new chassis around the E M1 even has the old menus doesn’t even have the current menu of the new OM one kind of a waste if you asked me

[@Recremekim]

The biggest fault is not adding the new menu system, many people who upgraded to the OM-1 might have wanted to have a smaller lighter backup, but not when the menu systems are so different.

[@pawelbrzozowski3899]

Let's be honest. It should be called the OM-10. Then it would be a great camera.

[@funkmon]

I'm the niche, and I think more people are than people realize. The appeal of a small camera than can do it all is the reason people use cell phones and compact cameras. If OM systems leans into this, people will like it more. It's why I continue to use it.

[@alexanderthomas2660]

Indeed, I'm starting to look for a replacement for my trusty but aging Panasonic DMC-GX1, and this seems to fit the bill. Granted, if companies are specifically aiming for customers like me only, they should probably be firing their marketing people…

[@Ildskalli]

The problem is that a big chunk of users who look for better IQ and control will be dedicated enough to carry a bit more bulk. The zone between performant enthusiast cameras and phones is looking deader each year, mostly left to low-end, video-focused products. And competition on the enthusiast end is *brutal* , companies can't afford to reheat three year old models. I own an E-M10, but I almost never use it anymore. It's been replaced by my Canon RP. It's a bit larger and heavier, but it's way better in low light, has much more usable AF, better displays, friendlier menus, and it's a lot more responsive. And the RP with the kit lens is cheaper than the OM-5 kit. Of course, one makes some tradeoffs, one always does, but the steady reduction in both the size of 35mm gear, and the available customer pool, means that niche products like MFT must be designed nigh-perfectly to simply not fail.

[@funkmon]

@@Ildskalli probably yes. I'm not sure how to account for that. The nifty fifties on both formats are similar in length and size. I consider the AF on the 10 Mark 4 fine. However, the Canon plays up much more to the prosumer, and the Olympus plays more to the guy who wants it easy, like a cell phone shooter. In body image stabilization ain't there in the Canon and the Sonys are still bigger, so the niche can be filled. Even for the prosumer, no camera at this price point is this small and weather sealed, so they found that niche, but who cares? OM digital solutions needs to make a Pen smaller, like a GM5, but modern, and they need to bring in the AI denoising from the OM-1 to all the cameras. The dynamic range and quality seems fine for me shooting micro 4/3rds. I jumped ship from Canon a while back after I rediscovered the fun of photography on the system. I usually go out with my E-PM1 though, a shit camera from 10 years ago with bad controls and a rubbish screen because it's small as shit.

[@Ildskalli]

@@funkmon I think the real problem is that it's uneconomical to market something like the OM-5 but for $700, which is the kind of price point where they'd get people like you on board. You're using an E-PM1 (had one as well, I've owned like 50% of all the cheapo Oly bodies, and most of the Panasonics at some point) so you probably won't spend $1,100 on a new camera. And those who will have a wealth of options open to them. If OMDS want to survive in this environment, they have to make close to the best possible body in each price bracket they decide to compete in. The OM-1 can be argued to do that, but the OM-5... not really.

[@LekBangbon]

E-M5 iii = E-M1 ii in slimer shape. OM5 = E-M1 iii in slimer shape. 😂

[@jamesbowmanphotography]

E-M5 iii = OM5 in same shape

[@johnd5244]

I like it as a quick everyday camera. I like the starry night AF in these cameras as I do nightscapes and Milky Way at times. Not bad for the Priceline.

[@CoalitionGaming]

This camera can be great, but they dropped the ball. Modernize it properly and its a killer.

[@Bigfarmer8]

As usual on this latest and greatest channel (Amazon needs to sell, right?) I am going a bit against traffic. But then again, I am that so called niche. OM System brings out a camera that has 20 new or improved features, and yet it seems a huge disappointment to all. It has for instance better IBIS and a better processor for better picture quality, better ISO performance and faster response. It has lovely Starry Sky AF and better overall AF performance but we moan about an old USB-port for slow charging. Recently I went on a trip and used my Pen-f (talking about a dated experience!). I shot 682 photos in two days and only then I recharged my battery overnight. I couldn't care less for that USB-port. Talking about the competition this camera is up against: None of them has weather sealing, or Live Composite, or Starry Sky AF, or a comparable ibis (if any). Apples and pears I say.

[@BlazeFirereign]

I think the biggest problem here is not the camera itself, but the uncertainty and worry about OM's future. It looks **very** lazy to not implement USB-C and the OM-1's menu, two things which _at a surface level_ look like they should have been inexpensive to do. Indeed, it raises the very real possibility that OM intend to put in bare minimum effort and bleed as much profit from their ecosystem as possible before everyone moves away. And _that_ would be a far bigger problem than one disappointing camera release. Now, I'm not suggesting that is the only, or even the most likely, explanation. This looks more to me like OM running out of E-M5 stock and not being permitted to build any more cameras with the Olympus name (aside from the OM-1), and therefore releasing what is basically an E-M5 Mark IV with the OM System branding. But that still raises the question of why they didn't put more effort in. Surely they knew this was coming? Maybe they _want_ to make a better camera, but they're limited by parts availability. Perhaps they can't get enough of the OM-1's processors to put them in any other body right now. That seems entirely possible given that it was hard to get an OM-1 until recently. And maybe being restricted to an older processor limited their ability to port the new menu and implement USB-C...but that's _a lot_ of "maybe" to try and justify actions that _look_ like they are either incredibly lazy or significantly under-resourced. As someone who has recently "invested" in an OM-1 and a bunch of pricey Oly lenses, the ecosystem's future is a very real concern for me. I love the IBIS, the weather sealing, and the small and light telephoto lenses (compared to other formats), but the OM-5 has me worried over whether I should avoid putting any more money into MFT, or perhaps even look at other options now while my lenses and body are in demand, even if I'd sorely miss the features I love. If OM don't do _something_ in the near future to demonstrate that they're _actually investing_ in their ecosystem, and that they'll keep up with the competition, then people are going to jump ship.

[@Bigfarmer8]

@@BlazeFirereign Thank you Blaze for your extensive reaction. I quite agree with your thoughts and point of view. Shortage of micro chips is a world wide problem. And sure I am a little worried about the direction OMDS is going (having worked for a Japanese company less so then others though). My point is though that talking negative about an otherwise solid and great performing camera doesn't help the brand to grow and doesn't invited to invest, both from a user's perspective as from a manufacturer's per spective. I just wished that DPreview could see that it may have been impossible for OMDS to come up with something spectacular because of the circumstances you already mentioned, but they took a good product and improved it quite a bit on usability. That is not a bad thing.

[@BlazeFirereign]

@@Bigfarmer8 Oh absolutely. The OM-5 is absolutely fine in my opinion. It absolutely has features that you _can't_ get in competing cameras in its price bracket, and I think OM is very sensible to develop a niche market around those features. I imagine much of the disappointment has arisen from the rumours prior to its release, particularly those suggesting it would use the OM-1's sensor. That always seemed a bit fantastical to me, given that the OM-1 is 1 of 7 cameras on the market with a stacked sensor, and is substantially cheaper than any of the other 6. Plus, I doubt OM are going to position a camera below the OM-1 that can match its speed - that's its niche. Perhaps a lot of it stems from the continued idea that a 20MP MFT sensor is insufficient. Personally, at reasonable ISOs, I'm doubtful that I could tell the difference between a 20MP OM-5 photo and a 100MP Fuji GFX100 photo, without pixel peeping or printing at large sizes. And if you're going to do those, then clearly the MFT format isn't for you, no matter the sensor. But all of that is moot if OM stagnates. I hope my fears are unfounded.

[@TITAOSTEIN]

Absolutely not a dinosaur! But I’m really disappointed! They should bring the new OM-1 sensor, USB-C (unbelievable!!! And they made the same mistake with the LS-P5) and the same OM-1 menu system!! They are sending a very bad message!! And worst… the price is to high!! 1099$ would be much realistic!

[@michalhor2736]

The most accurate description of the OM system situation is: "garage sale" What is left of Olympus is monetized. This is a requiem. No development means no future.

[@markperrins3152]

In this review, you put more effort into this camera than Om Systems did. You could have simply said, "They put the inner parts of the old EM1 MKIII into the body of the old EM5 MKIII, oh and slightly improved the weather sealing." There, how long did that take? But all credit to you, you managed to produce a detailed 13.45 minute analysis. Thank you for your effort DPReview, try harder OM Systems!

[@johnstephen2869]

Lots of your replies are a little mean 😢 I would definitely buy this one compared to my E-M5 ii. It has more features and is much lighter and more weatherproof. So good on you OM systems, I’m saving my pennies. 😊

[@AbdonPhirathon]

If they’re “mean” because people are pointing out that OM System re-released the same body with the same features, so be it. Not even an incremental upgrade, and they few things they added could have also been added to the EM-5 MKIII via firmware update. Only a fanboy would be excited about this release. This is a cash grab for OM System.

[@donaldmiller7098]

Two weeks ago I upgraded my carry-around camera - an E-M10MkII - to the E-M5MkIII because it was $300 off. What I've seen about the OM-5 so far makes me glad I went for the discounted older model. Despite the (few) new features there isn't anything that is worth the extra money for what I needed and wanted. And still no USB-C or updated menu? WTF? By the way, can the menu system be updated through firmware?

[@davebellamy4867]

That's exactly what i just did! The EM5 Mk iii artived on the say of the OM5 launch yesterday! Feels likexa good move at a decent price.

[@drooner]

I've got the EM5 Mark II and no chance I'll change from it to a worse-built camera.

[@JuliusJanulis]

Situation where you buy a company without money for research (i think om 1 was already created by Olympus), and have a lot of spare parts from the old owner.

[@vaidehiarts]

It does seem like it's time to go Fuji. So long and thanks for all the fish, micro four world. (Unless there is an updated GX85 style camera coming from Panny with the IBIS, 20 MP sensor, uncropped 10 bit 4K up to 30 FPS [10 bit 4K 60 with a minor crop] and a mic input)

[@Centauri27]

I think OMDS is terrified of cannibalizing the OM-1 sales, so they kept the OM-5 as "E-M5-ish" as possible. Either that, or they just did a lazy, "as little effort as possible" redesign.

[@artemis83]

I've been an Olympus shooter for years and indeed this upgrade is lazy and it's a disappointment. But I do not agree on the fact the competitors feels more modern. I owned for some months an X-S10 in order to investigate if I could move to Fuji but no way, for what I do there's no way to move out from Olympus. Don't misunderstand me, the X-S10 is fantastic camera, and I really would like to have its amazing tones and quality on Olympus: the X-Trans sensor is amazing and the difference is visible. But that's it. Than I found out that the X-S10 is just something that takes photos, while my Olympus gear help creativity: something like hi-res handheld shots, live composite, live nd, the extremely well working hdr raw, etc, which is something that i use ALL THE TIME, on Fuji is just not part of the software, it's just not possible. You can shoot very nice 26Mp shot in PASM modes, and that's it, the camera doesn't do anything more than that. I found out that I can live with a bit less effective autofocus, I'll compensate by myself, but I cannot live without with features that overcome the needs of many and many manuals shots of the same scene and hours of post processing, or bringing with me tripod and filters. Things that I used to do back in 2012 with my Nikon D800, fine, but it was 2012. In 2022 with a modern Fuji or Sony nothing really changed and the experience feels dated to me, from my point of view, the only one brand that is offering me more "features", more "possibilities", is Olympus.

[@fysherofmen]

I finally just upgraded to the Mark III even though I knew this was coming out. Basically paid $600 on eBay with 1500 shots on it. Just shot a wedding and was REALLY happy with the results! I am only a tiny bit jealous of this upgrade, but I knew I wasn't going to be able to afford it anyway. :)

[@MartinKulle]

It's a shame. I'm a user of OMD-5 II and I'll stick with that. I really appreciate the ruggedness and mostly the portability. However, I had an opportunity to try mark III and it has some nice features but also some features have been abandoned. And this camera doesn't flash the light for that "I need it now".

[@DJCJ999]

All things considered it’s a “safe” release from OM systems… they took a popular body, added some software tweaks and used hardware they had in-stock to produce a product imitation of an Olympus camera. The bean-counters have done their job of trimming the “fat” and maximising profits… winner here is not the consumer, however, politics a side, it has a lot of great features for the new shooter but is lacking innovation for the seasoned pro.

[@falale4797]

Not safe at all. They need a huge hit to come back to the competition as they are very behind. Instead they release a very niched product. Even fans are disappointed.

[@DJCJ999]

@@falale4797 they weren’t going for market domination with this release, they were sticking to what they have and what they know works… their business model will likely save innovation for the flagship models.

[@falale4797]

@@DJCJ999 they dont have to dominate the market, but they have to offer some competitiveness with their product. At this price, the om5 is competing against some great models from sony, nikon, canon and their fellow panasonic, who place better offers on the table.

[@DJCJ999]

Hey, you and I and the community know they could have done more for the end user but that wasn’t what they were going for. They have released a camera with some rebranding hype to entice some new people to the hobby. Anyone who’s knows about the hobby would likely review all products and spec on the market and consider lens costs and the +\-‘s of the u4/3rds system… new users don’t know about these things and will buy off what they see and on paper the 5 has a lot to offer.

[@glsracer]

I'd say it's a dinosaur. They missed an opportunity to keep up with APS-C competition and to leapfrog Panasonic's current offerings IMO by not including the sensor from the OM-1. As it is, I see no real reason for existing Olympus EM5 shooters or Lumix GX9 or G95 shooters to upgrade. I have been very happy with my G9, G95, and GX85 (chosen over the GX9 because I hate tilt EVFs) bodies and I really only want a higher resolution sensor that doesn't take steps backwards for stills in order to improve video performance. A 32 MP BSI M43 sensor would be an instant buy for me if Panasonic released such a sensor in a GX9 or G95 body (love my G9 but it's too big for travel). I don't even care if the new example 32 MP Lumix camera were to use DFD. It has worked well enough for weddings, events, and the limited amounts of wildlife that I shoot on my G9 and G95, I just need more resolution on occasion.

[@truenetgmx]

Old sensor = dealbreaker. Was hoping to upgrade my g95 :( This will not sell in the west..

[@larryzapata2614]

I'm am SSOOOOOOOOOOO DISAPPOINTED. BUT NOT SURPRISED! JIP are doing the same thing they did with VAIO. Waste of time product. They think making this good will cannibalize the OM-1

[@jonafoto]

I've had the EM5 Mk II & III and was REALLY looking forward for some modern updates while at the same time bringing up the best features from past models, but ended up super disappointed ☹️. No USB-C, no 4K 60, same plasticy body from the mkiii and same small evf frm mkiii ( really missed the metal body and huge evf of mkii). I appreciate the internal improvements but they're not enough, it doesn't have the same sensor or menu of the om-1. All in all, i think it's not worth getting and I think I might just go on eBay and find the mark ii again. I really loved the in hand experience with that camera.

[@honosleep]

Worst camera of 2022 has been decided😂

[@jacobh5817]

Uhmm, Chris…could you take a look at the box in which the shipment came? We might have sent you the wrong camera…🥶. Many apologies, please don’t use my name 🙏. Best regards, an OM Systems product manager.

[@jamesbowmanphotography]

😂

[@sflxn]

These guys (Olympus and OM Systems) are the laziest of all the camera makers. Why do they keep hanging on? They fooled people to get into their system and then sucker punches them over and over when it comes time to upgrade.

[@KD-lb9bg]

Excellent review of a very disappointing “upgrade”. Couldn’t even be bothered to change the charging port to USB C, never mind an upgraded sensor, Smh. I think that OM just shot themselves in the foot in a major way.

[@rk_bullet]

OM System? No thanks 🙏 It sounds more like plumbing agency than a camera brand.

[@RB-pp5tv]

The E-M5 III is much cheaper but nearly the same features, the same image quality but a much lower price. This new OM5 is the biggest disappointment ever for Olympus users.

[@asqures5541]

I'd been looking to upgrade my E-M10 body for a while but kept putting that off because I didn't want to switch systems. I was hoping the OM-5 would be just right, but now... I feel like I should move to Fujifilm or something...

[@davebellamy4867]

Secondhand EM10ii perhaps? Metal body. Drop dead gorgeous. Probably very cheap too as an upgrade for original EM10. Or an EM5iii. Not such nice body but feels good and discounted right now. Much better focusing than the early models definitely. Or even an EM5 mk ii or a bigger EM1 Mk ii.

[@DK-bh4yh]

Hi, do like your way of doing reviews, but now and then, I think you miss the mark. This is a good upgrade from an OM-10 or similar level of camera. Yes it misses out on usb-c & OM-1 menu system, but apart from that this is a better than good above beginner to good intermediate camera, that’s its market. OM-1 is the upgrade to this camera, just like it is for E-M5. If I did not already have a E-M5 mk3, I would buy this model. This would suit me for taking family, nature, landscape or Astro photography as an intermediate level user. OM-1 is my next camera 😊.

[@3dtrip870]

OM should have waited on this one. In a market that has substantial competition at this price point (way too high IMO), they cannot afford to be known as a half-way, lazy company...so OM-1 gave hope to the system, and now OM-5 sucks that faith right out...maybe if it was at a budget entry price of $899, then it would at least be lower than the Canon R10