OM617 Performance Series: Injection Pump & Fuel Filter Modification, Idle Adjust, ALDA, & Fuel Lines

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Oof... was making a joke at the beg. of video about Ian Johnson back in 2020, but then my hair looks like the new XOR host after that 😅🤣 What are the chances!?!?

[@dieselbenzrevive6820]

WOW this video format is great! thank you

[@doomsdaydiesel]

FINALLY figured out the time stamp table! You have to start with 0:00 otherwise it doesn't register. It also appears to need the time on the left side and the description on the right. Notice the red time bar now has the intervals shown and labeled!

[@nutragardens6632]

I have one that works with Vegetable oil

[@dondaughtrey7537]

Wow, thanks for sharing this, helped me complete my parts list. I live on the outer Island of Hawaii- I try to have as complete a list of parts as possible before I begin, otherwise, I can end up waiting a month for a part to come in!

[@coachgeo]

alda line at 4mmx 21"... assume that is 4mm ID?? But since how assuming is spelled.... am asking. thanks in advance

[@nutragardens6632]

I can get you pumps like this from Albania my friend

[@mikedeyoung7219]

I like his hair. If he had long hair he would look like a 👧

[@beeeeeeezy]

What is the best way to drain fluids from the pump? I am rebuilding my OM617 after bearing damage, and although I'm not planning on sending the injection pump to anyone, I don't want any potential metal shavings left in there. Should I just put it on its end and let the fluid drip out?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Good question. I'd pull the back cover off and the plugs on the side and hit it with parts cleaner thoroughly.

[@countlesshobbiesmk2273]

Awesome content. Thank you for this video! I’ve been looking for IP timing instructions. Will try to my 190D with OM602.961. Do you know how similar it will be? Also, considering getting fuel filter adapter you were showing. What are the advantages of changing stock fuel filter?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

I really don't know anything about the 602. You'd be better off contacting dieselmeken.se I'm sure the fuel filter setup is different. The 603 & 606 are completely different and my adapter won't work for them. The advantage is longer service intervals and finer filtration. More readily available filters, and cheaper, too. You can also add water separation to the Donaldson.

[@willvan9072]

11:48 That serpentine belt setup!

[@Stevenn2186]

Not sure if you or anyone else would know this but I was wondering what ball park 0-60 time I could expect with your 220whp figure on a w123 or w126 chassis? Amazing content and channel BTW!

[@doomsdaydiesel]

My R&D truck went from 26s to

[@ImpalamansGarage]

I get 25 mpg on the hwy at interstate speeds with the AC on. If I install one of these upgraded pumps, what effect will it have on mileage?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Negligible. It may vary +/- 1mpg if you keep your foot out of it.

[@ImpalamansGarage]

@@doomsdaydiesel I appreciate your responsiveness to comments and questions.

[@brian3911]

Awesome information! Thank you.

[@davemunoz7732]

I would like 175 HP and the ability to outrun a semi truck in Arizona

[@nutragardens6632]

Just got the Alda delete

[@coachgeo]

if one came up with a way to do it? would there be any value to being able to vary the IP timing (rotate it to/away from block) on the fly? Like is the IP timing position one that is MB recommended as a bit of a happy spot that tends to handle a wide range of conditions (idle to load) where if one could do varying IP under more specific conditions, would such be more advantageous theoretically? If the load condition variability not much value..... what about ability to vary for when using different light oils as a fuel on a weekly or so basses. One's that combust at a different pressure/heat point than diesel or the fuel used prior to new fill up? Just wrapping my head around stuff.

[@doomsdaydiesel]

The multifuel in the deuces had what you're talking about

[@coachgeo]

@@doomsdaydiesel did those adjust IP timing mostly? hmm.. will have to look that up

[@doomsdaydiesel]

@@coachgeo yes

[@rlr240sc]

Thank you for the video. I’m going to get one now!!! And yes mine has 85whp stock

[@rlr240sc]

I purchased the upgrade from benz force, sent in a used pump I had and they performed the upgrade. Wow 🤩 the new pump is bad ass. This thing rolls out now. I had to adjust the Mercedes automatic transmission to firm up the shifts. I need to put it on the rolling road now.

[@Ajme-kb4os]

@@rlr240sc did it liven it up? I’m getting ready to send mine in. My Toyota is super sluggish even with good compression and valve adjustment.

[@rlr240sc]

@@Ajme-kb4os yes it’s like a completely different engine. Worth every penny

[@guntherdrawert2041]

Very well explain very good videos you got thank you for sharing your knolege very profesional keep the good job

[@MrJustinWheeler]

Great video! Appreciate all the info.

[@Bodeesafa]

Great video. Thanks Joe

[@HumCoNelsons]

So with your comment under the video, are you NOT recommending BenzForce for my injection pump upgrade, and send it straight to DieselMeken?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Correct

[@rayjones463]

the tranny module you speak of is it electronic or vacum or what....im going to look at a 617 turbo in the morning but i have no ideal what year it is.....

[@doomsdaydiesel]

@@rayjones463 vacuum

[@nollidredins6257]

Just read the description went on your site to look at a turbo and sadly out of stock. Sad days

[@doomsdaydiesel]

I'm not out of stock. I have an entire room full of turbo's.

[@nollidredins6257]

@@doomsdaydiesel oh sorry I looked last night and it showed most out of stock like the 60mm. But I just checked and see there are turbos in stock for my om617 which is perfect

[@ImpalamansGarage]

Why are OM617 swaps popular in the U.S. ?

[@randominformation1566]

Not many other options.

[@Ajme-kb4os]

No computer, the cars are really cheap to buy as donors right now. Easy to work on. Really simple engine . It’s not a power monster but has good fuel mileage with big tires when compared to a stock gasser. There’s pros and cons to everything though. The valves need to be adjusted every 7k miles. They are fun to tinker on though .

[@ImpalamansGarage]

@@Ajme-kb4os So maybe look at my youtube channel and then give me a better answer. Why would anyone put a 120hp engine into a 4x4? Devil's advocate here.

[@inphiknit]

How to make new fuel lines 23:17

[@michalmuszynski6942]

thank you for great manual

[@sugarmoonlight8582]

I have a 300cd 1982 om617 I need to make a lot of hp. What do I. We’d to make 300hp

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Get in touch with dieselmeken

[@cerwin21]

I changed out my rack dampening bolt and about a 1/4 quart of oil came out. Should I refill pump itselg or does it feed oil from the engine oil system? 83' 300sd

[@doomsdaydiesel]

It fills itself. Priming is just required when it's dry

[@cerwin21]

@@doomsdaydiesel thanks man. Thats what I was thinking as it has that black oil feed tube. Just seen the plugs on the side and wasnt sure. Setups running great in my 90 4runner, dont miss that 3.slow at all

[@Ajme-kb4os]

Is it really as easy as setting the engine to 24 btdc and pulling the pump? I’m trying to send mine in and don’t wanna mess it up . I am struggling finding the info on these.

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Yup

[@Ajme-kb4os]

@@doomsdaydiesel ok great, I was getting mixed up with a locking pin and what others were doing but it seems that was with the m pump.

[@MrMattyV]

What diameters do we need for the COHLINE lines?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

I believe 4mm for the oil and 6mm for the rest (ID)

[@ILivethepositiveway]

why not just use rubber fuel line and hose clamps, instead of cohline?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

The life of the cohline line is much longer. And I'm guessing the pressure rating of the cohline is higher. It's certainly less prone to leaking.

[@ILivethepositiveway]

makes sense. the ones on my engine are old as dirt an still sealed up, they're just ugly. haha

[@RAZORCANITRUNCRYSIS]

Thank you!!!

[@freddurst7181]

I need help.bad so glad I found ur channel lol

[@freddurst7181]

Ready learned some things in this video ur knowledge of these motors and way u explain it is top notch guy from mercedes source just confused me lol

[@williamsnyder7439]

Sorry for the long post....I am getting ready to adjust the timing on my injection pump. I know to adjust the missing tooth with the notch (or top left bolt) on the ip. My question is, can you turn the ip gear any direction, cw or ccw, to line it up with the notch? And i didnt see you use a locking pin to keep the ip from rotating as you put it in the engine, is it not that critical? I also will try to put the engine at 25 btdc and allow adjustment down to 24 if needed, i am using stock pump with about 150k miles on the engine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Awesome video by the way!

[@doomsdaydiesel]

Set it at 26. You'll be much happier. Drip tool is for those wanting to adjust the pump without removing it. So I've never purchased the pin since a lot of the pumps I adjust don't come off.

[@williamsnyder7439]

I had my engine looked at by a diesel shop and they said my timing was at 7 btdc and that i had to take the pump off to correct it. So after the engine is set to where you want it, its as simple as turning the ip gear to line up with the notch (does it matter if you rotate it clockwise or counterclockwise? ) then trying to put the ip in the center of the adjustment area without turning the ip gear? Is there anything else critical to watch out for?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

@@williamsnyder7439 if it slides in and you don't have to rotate it to slide it in, it should be set

[@williamsnyder7439]

One last question...maybe haha. How does the ip work? Meaning how does it know which cylinder to deliver fuel to. Does a revolution of the ip gear feed a specific cylinder? Can you adjust the ip gear any direction, clockwise or counterclockwise? Can i turn the engine to 26° btdc then remove the ip, align the ip gear properly then reinstall it having kept the engine at 26° ?

[@doomsdaydiesel]

@@williamsnyder7439 you'd be better off talking to Dieselmeken with tech questions. I don't build pumps.