Omega Speedmaster 861 Tritium | Sold on Chrono24

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Time stamp:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Omega Speedmaster Professional
01:25 Artem Sailcloth Strap
01:44 Uncle Seiko Bracelet
02:30 1996 Omega Speedmaster Cal 861 Tritium Dial
05:15 Speedmaster Watch Service
05:40 Buying a vintage Speedmaster
08:50 Defining your dads watch
13:36 Selling on Chrono24
15:40 Omega certificate of authenticity
17:25 Moonwatch Only Book
17:40 History of the Omega Speedmaster
18:50 Handing down to the next generation

[@brownmcpherson5724]

Good to have you back. I'm sure I'm not the only fan that looks forward to your videos. I had a Tokyo 2020 Panda Speedmaster and I ended up selling it because of the winding - even though I loved the look of it. On the Submariner, I can relate. I had the 41mm Date version. Just found it boring and sold it. I found myself wearing my Rolex Batgirl (hate that moniker) and my Planet Ocean a lot more. Keep the videos coming Andy!!

[@bensayles1541]

Andy, the Forstner bracelet is way better than the Uncle Seiko version. More like the Omega OEM.

[@gentlmentlmn]

Great video! I have a First Omega in Space that I bought used (box & papers) last year shortly after my son was born. It never leaves my wrist. My son is just over a year old now and loves looking at it and grabbing it, usually with hands covered in saliva or food lol 🤣 I love the way he grabs at the watch because I know it’s going to be his one day. I put it on the Uncle Seiko bracelet which I like because it gives the FOIS a bit of an extra vintage feel and steel is loads easier to maintain around my son compared to the leather strap the watch came on! I have a few other watches in my collection but this is HIS/OUR watch. It’ll be “dad’s watch” until it becomes his.

[@DrTelenous]

Long-time lurker, first-time commenting. You've expressed a lot of my thoughts in this video. There are watches that define our journey and these can't be very many. Like you, I bought my Speedy in '98. It's a T Swiss T model, it must have been sitting behind the window for a while. I wore it for 22 years straight, and I sm still wearing it. I bought a couple of watches since (Seamaster 300MC, Explorer I) but that's it. You build a relation with a watch, and the watch almost becomes an accessory of your personality. That takes time, a lot of time, and a lot of wearing on your wrist. Thanks for the nice content, All the best.

[@dean5346]

Great content Andy love your watch journey Storie. Now I will not be throwing mud at my screen for you selling your speedy. That’s because I just bought the new I pad pro, so don’t want any mud on the screen. Having said that if it was the 861 movement speedy you sold the new iPad would have gone out the window. Thanks.

[@PianoBoy99]

I really enjoyed your thoughts on your father. I too have been buying watches tied to my father and grandfather. My father worked for Nasa, so I got the 3861 Moonwatch a few years ago. My grandfather worked for American Brass, so I picked up a Longine Legend Diver Bronze. It's a great way to buy watches. Thinking about the memories, or characteristics about the people you love and buying something durable that you will always have to remember them by.

[@nedflanders3769]

Hi Andy. I really enjoy your channel. Your voice is very soothing! Something about its cadence or tone. 😊 My dad has worn a Rolex 2-tone “bluesey” Sub every day for many years. He doesn’t baby it, either. He beats the crap out of it. It’s well loved! ❤

[@christoph3903]

Great video Andy. A couple of years ago I made a decision to buy two nice watches to leave my boys when I'm gone. Ive got a speedmaster and will probably buy a seamaster diver 300 in the near future. A watch is a lovely gift to pass on lk a loved one.

[@mr_watchaddict3146]

Hi Andy, I'm the chap you spoke to at the Redbar event - an Arboricultural Consultant, so not far off, just using different muscles nowadays😉 Still wearing my Sub to work now and again, though favouring my Explorer 2 (226570 black dial) as its less in-your-face... and my new 3861, purchased unworn a month ago! This was entirely your fault I might add, so thank you for pulling my trigger finger after so many years of inevitability! Loving your content and hoping to see you again soon, though I'll miss the next event due to work unfortunately. Have fun if you make it🙏🙂 Mark

[@TheEnglishWatch]

Great conversations at Red Bar.

[@bfreres]

Andy, you clearly have the same nostalgic draw to the notion of “one watch,” and being a One Watch guy as I do. It’s a conundrum, isn’t it, when one is drawn to watch collecting but also would love to have one watch that goes through it all with us everyday and then is passed down to our kids? I have inadvertently associated a couple of my watches to my kids for differing reasons over the years, and I try to wear those associated watches when doing events or spending time with each child, so hopefully I can have the best of both worlds: collecting, but also having a “Dad’s Watch” for each kid. Cheers.

[@KeepingWatchUK]

I did wonder at the time why you’d added a second Speedy tbh. Live & learn as they say 👍🏻

[@canadianwatchmonkey3992]

Ive handled many watches and for me the best winding and bezel action goes to Tudor. The Kenissi is refined and very accurate 😊

[@alecleamus3280]

Hi Andy. I’m a regular viewer, who tends to watch and enjoy, without leaving comments. However I always appreciate your very relaxed, easygoing style, your videos always have a freshness because you usually have a story of sorts to tell, rather than just make formulaic videos that are just intended to hit YT algorithms, which can become very boring and stale. I really felt that this video was based on recent reflection you’ve been going through regarding your family, past and present, and perhaps your legacy too, an inevitable consequence of getting older perhaps? Watch collecting has actually become quite stressful for me, as I own too many watches, many of which are rarely worn. I definitely could never be remembered for wearing one watch in particular, which is actually kind of sad. So your video has galvanised my determination to put that right, and to significantly reduce my collection, by selling some, and gifting a few to my adult children to enjoy wearing now, or even sell if they wish, to help them financially now, rather than when I’m not around. This thoughtful video has made me realise that I’d like to have a ‘dad’s watch’ too, which until your excellent video, wasn’t something I’d ever considered. Thanks for telling us about your story, Andy, it’s really been a wake up call for me, and I’m grateful. 🙏🏻

[@TheEnglishWatch]

I suspect age is playing a part. Balancing legacy and the need to enjoy ownership of different things along the way can be a difficult journey if you’re not willing to give them up to enjoy the next.

[@samzerafa3185]

Great video , l also bought my 3861 Master chronograph from a dealership because my wife insisted that don't get caught out with bogus copy when spending such high amount of hard earned money. I will be passing my watch onto my son and hopefully he'll pass it onto our grandson hopefully in the long term future.

[@gmshadowtraders]

You buy watches to pass down! Respect!

[@rayharrison6400]

Love that Speedy and one of my faves in my collection

[@rayharrison6400]

The only criticism I have on the manual wind is the size of the crown with my finger sausages

[@MA89.]

Great video Andy, enjoyed it. Good point on what will be my watch in the eyes of my kids. Makes me want to hold onto my core watches more

[@Zeus-kj7nn]

You're obviously an articulate and a smart guy. I identify with your watch journey. What hit me, are your last thoughts of leaving a legacy watch. The watch for me to pass on to my son is the same as your Omega Planet Ocean. It's my grail, a watch of which matches my persona. My son will see that.. End of the day, it's how a watch makes you feel. Not how you 'think' how a watch, 'should' make you feel. Thankyou Andy. ❤

[@67NewEngland]

- On the topic of “just wear it”, my nephew is a city fire fighter, his wife bought him a brand new Submariner about 7 yrs ago and he wears it to work everyday. It’s got plenty of nicks and scratches on it but he’s un phased. I don’t know if I could do it.

[@user-ug6do9bl9o]

Ive been watching your vids from very early on and i just want to say, you've improved so much in making videos and speaking casually about your thoughts. Great work Andy

[@TheEnglishWatch]

Thanks - I’m certainly less uptight and feel at ease with the camera now. Appreciate your support.

[@TomLaz]

Agreed! Love the content.. Would you do a video on your setup? I’ve been toying with the idea of starting some content on KZbin but just not sure about the setup. Do you hook your camera and microphone to your computer?

[@TheEnglishWatch]

@@TomLaz It's something I plan to do soon. Been putting it off as the office is a mess!!

[@subzero9460]

Interesting content Andy keep up the great work

[@StefanoMaggio]

I have the Uncle Seiko (that's what it was called when I bought it) and love it. Vintage build quality, it's my go to. And yes, polished in links. What a looker and very comfortable

[@ph8077]

1996 was a great year for me too...I got a 'Tickle Me Elmo' for my 6th birthday! 😁

[@nick-just]

Love the concept of the Dad watch, helpful to work out what you really value in a collection. I can highly recommend the Uncle Seiko 1479 bracelet you mentioned - very comfortable, feels similar to a jubilee on wrist.

[@steffydog]

Mmm, interesting, keeps incredible time +5 seconds a day, people will say that’s fab, I think that’s horrendous, how do they charge £5k ish back in the day for that. Lovely looking, but that’d drive me mental. Cheers for the video Andy, hope you’re well.

[@Chris-pn9yf]

That’s a great point Andy we are as always on the same page

[@fancycatkit]

I only had fresh fruit to throw qt me screen :p All jokes aside there are many speedmaster out there and you can always get another one, thats the best thing about a classic

[@robynsjp]

2 Speedies here : my grail 321 from the 60s, and then a 145.022-69 from 1970. That's a tritium 861. There's some other pieces in there, so yes you need to structure your collection and the pieces need to have a reason being there. And some become absolute specials, that will never leave, then some that will likely stay, and then a few that might go.

[@Valera_Scotland]

I really would like a "dad's watch"... loving my Smiths PRS-29A, but the end game is something like an Explorer I think

[@Conradthecook]

I have the uncle strap your after on my 1969 Mk 2 speedy and it looks and feels great.

[@phil7183]

I like these vids without the background music more, and love the dads watch subject you should make that video!

[@TheEnglishWatch]

Thx Phil. I think I’ll ditch the music.

[@markhor1988]

That was some good b roll for the 96 Speedy

[@TomLaz]

“Defining your dad’s watch” is a tough one! Especially when you’ve got 2 kids.. Each watch I get, I keep thinking whether I should get a similar one so that they don’t fight when I’m gone.. 😅 Next on MY list is definitely the Moonwatch hesalite! Would you get a Seamaster 300M? The blue and the green dials are sweet! But I’m also tempted with the vintage 2531 “Original James Bond” variant.. Such a classic and love the dimensions of the watch!!

[@TheEnglishWatch]

Tough one. I think the current 300m is good value and can be found at discount.

[@Audittr2108]

I have the same Speedy as you kept, I also have a Sub but it’s a tritium dial 1994 model. I’ve owned that from new so any patina is all mine.

[@pizzahotline_]

Great vid. It's cool to hear your story here. The watch professional that you mention. Would you reccomend them for servicing? They look really reasonable on their site. I need someone to do a full service of my speedy. I was keen to go in person instead of post.

[@TheEnglishWatch]

I would recommend. My Speedy was serviced really well with good comms throughout. He also serviced a colleagues Omega Constellation from the 60's with a great outcome. Not sure he'd want to meet in person though - we only chatted over email. Maybe you can talk on the phone or via Zoom if necessary.

[@johnwhite.762]

Hello Andrew, at 17:48, in the top right corner of your lay-out: "Summary of Hasalite Model." (Its Hesalite). We need to keep an eye on the small details, just as Nasa and Morton Thiokol should have with their use of polysulphide rings.

[@TheEnglishWatch]

Thanks for that. All these years on and nobody else spotted the typo. I had a touch of the Archie’s!

[@robertstevens919]

Great video. I have a planet ocean and 300 seamaster I'm currently trying to sell. Never had a Speedy .think I might bite.

[@brynroberts9880]

I have the same speedy on the same Artem straps.

[@Cosaamia]

Whats your dads watch. Good point that. Got me thinking. Love to have a 2 watch collection. Maybe need to sell a couple

[@rayharrison6400]

I think the new white dial is probably the only other one I'd swap my hesalite for.

[@whodeycinbengals]

Yeah the 3861 is a bitch to wind, as well. I currently have a Speedy Racing 40 mm and it’s also a pain to wind. Love Omega, but their Speedmasters need to be able to be wound more easily. My Tudors and Hamilton’s are pure butter when winding.

[@theenavybluemonster]

I enjoy winding my 3861 every morning.

[@cosmodoc]

you should try your speedy on a rally strap

[@hexxthalion688]

Hi, thank you for the video. Would you mind sharing links to strap shop and the service/repair company you use?

[@TheEnglishWatch]

Direct link to the Artem store (no affiliation): artemstraps.com/products/classic-black-sailcloth-watch-strap-with-grey-stitching Watch Professional: thewatchprofessional.co.uk

[@hexxthalion688]

@@TheEnglishWatch thank you very much

[@nedflanders3769]

@@hexxthalion688I have a few Artem straps and I can tell you they are absolutely excellent quality and very comfortable. They are definitely worth the price! Higher recommended!

[@DA-ju3iv]

Andy, very interesting video, thanks for sharing. I was also thinking to let a couple pieces go but the selling makes me nervous, especially using those platforms. Would you expand on how the process works with Chrono24? Thanks.

[@TheEnglishWatch]

I've sold through both Chrono24 and eBay with no issue. eBay fees are much higher which is why I prefer Chrono24. Good photos and a clear description are a must to attract attention to the add. Plenty of good examples on there. Once you have agreed a price with the buyer, they sent Chrono24 the money where it's retained in escrow until the watch is shipped and received. Once the buyer confirms receipt, Chrono24 send you the money. It's straight forward, but clearly you must follow their exact instructions to prevent being scammed. I would also insure the watch correctly for shipping. Royal Mail are reliable for shipping, but I use a 3rd party insurer if the value exceeds the RM maximum which is about £2k I think. eBay is a little safer as they have the authentication process and hold both the money and watch and ensure both reach buyer and seller.

[@DA-ju3iv]

@@TheEnglishWatchthank you very much for the details Andy. Feels more convenient than I thought. I am thinking to let go one between the Rootbeer which I love but rarely feel too comfortable in wearing it around and the Batman (scratched slightly while bathing my child, lovely memory) which seems even more valuable and too attention grabbing. Believe it or not a Cartier Santos is lately more appealing to me than those GMTs.

[@InGratitudeIam]

I'm not too certain that my children would really care what watch they inherit. As long as they can look at the watch and have fond memories of our time together, that would mean more than anything.

[@bikeman123]

I think they're really only going to remember and value the watch they saw you wearing, and then you have the problem of which child gets it. If you're a collector with many watches, they will mean nothing to your kids except what they're worth.

[@markmcnamara6743]

Andy, Are you close to your Snoopy call yet?

[@TheEnglishWatch]

I de-registered as it's not a collection watch - nice, but one to admire, not to own.

[@ozicryptoG]

I would have sold that too. And to be fair, I would not own your current one. You should get yourself a vintage 1969 or prior 321 or 861 cal. At the very least, one as new as 1972 but not newer. I found one in pristine condition, hardly worn and had the original box and papers and receipt, for AU$12,500 and offered and was accepted for 10,250. Bargain at twice the price! These can be found. These are the only ones worthy of the name "Moonwatch". The others are posers.

[@WMIYC]

Am I hearing that correctly?! …a chronograph service and mainspring replacement for just 250 quid?

[@TheEnglishWatch]

The main spring was a little extra, but the standard service was £250. Highly recommended.

[@Valera_Scotland]

Sold the 1861 three times. I've had enough of the Speedy. Keep going back to it, but it's just not my watch. It's just a tad too large, thick, and expensive. Also doesn't work too well as a daily, especially knowing that it's not as water resistant as could be.. Anyway, not for everyone but still great

[@johnnyxmusic]

I think the water resistance what is it 50 m… It’s just a psychological thing I mean I think you would feel better if it’s 100 m, but surely you’re not going to be diving off a pier in your business clothes with your Speedmaster watch and even if you did, you would probably be fine. But I get it… People think of it as a kind of shortcoming and in the world of collecting unnecessary things… It’s all these tiny little details that matter even if they don’t really matter.

[@Valera_Scotland]

@@johnnyxmusicagree with you. We obsess over very minor detail... the reason I sold the speedies 3 times was more to do with size. I always felt like I could damage it. It doesn't sit very low, and I was always aware of wearing it. . I prefer something thinner if I'm honest

[@johnnyxmusic]

@@Valera_Scotland Imtried one on a little while ago. I like the design and I think it’s quite handsome. But I put it on my wrist and just didn’t do anything for me. I was bringing in my father‘s mid 1980s Omega onstellation. That he gave to me. It’s courts… What is lovely. All gold with a gold bracelet. Even with that, it’s kind of understated. My daily driver is a Seiko Pepsi… Although it has an aftermarket orange face. Automatic, of course the big chunky thing I really like it. I got it for like 200 bucks on eBay.

[@Valera_Scotland]

@@johnnyxmusic we should wear what we like. 100% ignore the hype and enjoy the journey

[@bladimirkroutska3707]

I'm selling my 2006 Day-Date Speedmaster original papers and box and all service cards 3.200euro. I've been weraing it for 18years every single day.Even while swimming!

[@verykeen2please]

The clue was in the title? haha

[@theprivatecollectors]

C24 is way too expensive and the process is not convenient for the seller. Will never do it again.

[@bartvandenberg4901]

I'll subscribe if you read me a bedtime story.

[@DominicZ-ml6uj]

Wow.... that took forever to get to the point.