Picking Up the Pieces | Season 1 Episode 5 | Brandy and Ray Jay

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[@KimorasMommy]

Now I understand why Whitney and Brandy’s relationship was like mother and daughter.

[@NajSinghs]

❤💔

[@BioTransXX]

Ray J and his mother are birds of a feather. Both selfish, don't want to take responsibility for anything and blame others (but never each other) for things they had nothing to do with. They wouldn't have what they have without Brandy.

[@charmainep5858]

Complete & total facts!!💯

[@shoptalk7415]

selfish!!! her mom lmao wtf 1 u don't know them 2 she managed her from 14!!! she sacrificed her whole life!!! she could have just rode Brandy's coat tails but didn't .... Instead she put everything on hold and put her children 1st!! ya don't understand ... that last thing u can call her own mother is selfish

[@liyahking893]

@@shoptalk7415 I don’t think she was selfish when Brandy was 15.I think she started feeling herself when both of her kids was up there.If you watch these series Ray J looks like a very selfish person and it looks like he got it from his mother.And that person is right that whole Norwood family would be NOTHING without Brandy.

[@cortneyb2923]

Sonja the type of moma who don't apologize to her children, she just ask if they want to go to the store with her lol

[@notknown6605]

😂😂

[@chantellea9938]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@vantrelllewis943]

She need to I know Ray J is her baby boy but Ray J is not a child anymore

[@musement7446]

Hood snapple factss 😂😂😂🤣

[@KirstinAlexis]

😂😂😂😂😭

[@adroutt1985]

"She talks to me the way she wants to talk to you" THAT WAS DEEP

[@whitneysanders3036]

Right!!

[@gl3771]

Yup....and that's when you separate yourself from that because her mom is not realizing her behavior is affecting Brandy and how they interact. That scene with them speaking shows you how oblivious she is to her behavior. Your a manager and miss your child's performance over a issue at the office. That's not cool!

[@waitwhat1523]

Some parents don't and won't apologize. Some abuse their role as a parent and then wonder why they aren't closer or have a better relationship. If people can change, grow so can parents. It is a choice.

[@TT-mf2cy]

Brandy needs to check them like Toni B had to check her family. It’s TONI’s family business.

[@GiftedKG]

FACTS!!!! if it wasn’t for brandy they wouldnt be where they are today if we’re talking musically. Ray j is a good business man but being “brandy’s brother” is why he is relevant

[@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves]

Brandy's mother doesn't have any respect for Brandy because Brandy is not afraid to tell her mother about herself but it in a respectable way and she can't take it Ray J on the other hand he's a mama's boy he loves his mother no matter what which is fine but Brandy is the type where she's very outspoken and she doesn't like to be disrespected and she won't allow it and her mother is very controlling

[@imperfectlyguided8098]

Yesssssss perfectly said

[@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves]

Brandy's mom makes my skin itch because how you going to sit there and be mad about a stripper and you took it out on your daughter but yet you let Ray J call you by your government name lmfao

[@TeeGeeBee83]

She even talks to Ray with a different tone of voice.

[@whitneysanders3036]

Yes!! Like acts like such a cool mom with him but acts like brandys manager

[@KingofgraceSARA]

She smiles like a Cheshire cat at Ray but Ice grill any other time.

[@Tabaitha_Elle]

Yep she coddles him

[@Maxximillion100]

Yes she does. It's like she doesn't want to discipline him because she doesn't want to hurt his feelings. But when it comes to Brandy, she doesn't care how she talks to her, or if her feelings get hurt.

[@TeeGeeBee83]

@@Maxximillion100 exactly. She probably has a lot to do with Brandy having the little issues that she does because her mom made her afraid to be herself.

[@peaches7856]

Dad is so cool and understanding that's what I like I feel like I can go to him myself

[@jamaciag09]

Sonja said "Ray you need to do your job instead of smashing the homies"😂😂🤣🤣

[@samiyahjohnson5610]

brandy is too nice. the norwoods wouldn’t be where they are if it wasn’t for brandy’s success. sonja favors ray cause she feels bad that she was always on the road with brandy and wasn’t at home with ray (notice how ray guest stared on moesha numerous times before joining the main cast in season 5) BRANDY IS THE REAL STAR OF THIS FAMILY!

[@cindyjom.3904]

The mom and Ray J are really toxic to Brandy. They both seem very self centered. Is her mum the one who talked her into lying about the marriage and all? I think her mum is the one responsible for her insecurities. Her dad seems awesome. Bran= dad Ray= mum Her daughter being overweight is rooted in this whole situation, I hope they will find healing. ❤️ Brandy

[@1shaymocha]

Cindy B. ...agree... But Brandy is so emotional.... Not without reason but seems like mom wants her to have her back regardless. She should have talked to mom alone later about that negative commment about Shorty Mack. Watching this show.. I get it... Now I know for my own life. I so appreciate them displaying their vulnerabilities.

[@spheleleshange6023]

daddy is a beat weak though.. what does he mean if he say's he doesn't pick side's.. it not about picking sides it about right and wrong regardless of which side is it ,MOM\BRANDY

[@alexisniki3612]

the mom puts ray first because ray j was neglected by the family when brandy was trying to gain a career and when she finally got a big career also the mom knows that the neglect of her son is the reason why he makes poor choices as an adult and the parents are guilty because they turned a blind eye and kissed brandy's a** and allowed her to abuse and be unkind to ray- brandy used ray as a ragdoll because she was bullied in the industry as a little kid in a adult world.

[@NajSinghs]

@smkep 💯💯💯

[@ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised]

@smkep you and the person before not only explained CLEARLY but was able to put it into context of how things are the way they are. Unlike others are quick to say "Sonja this and Sonja that", you cant complain about the cake being dry if you dont understand why butter is needed!

[@gl3771]

Yassss pops let Sonja know...I love him and his approach and how he speaks reason and wisdom. Sonja doesn't see her behavior as a issue and its damaging to her and her kids especially Brandy! Ray J is out of control and if we as strangers can see it and you can't that's a issue.

[@SIRENTHEROCKER]

it is emotional favortism because mom is overcompensating Ray J for when she was on the road with Brandi. She wasnt nurtutring with Brandi because she had to make her tuff for show business. She chose to be Brandi's manager and Ray Js mom emotionally. She is more strict with Brandi as an adult because she feels bad for NOT being there for Ray J when he was younger. Mom has to fix it and the entire family needs to understand it and help her balance it and make mom AWARE of what shes doing.

[@NajSinghs]

I love how eloquent that breakdown is...sheesh. #GoStuff ❤💯👑🔥 iAgree

[@timmiboisavoy]

Siren TheRocker absolutely

[@jaerich02]

I totally agree with you. So on point with how her relationship is different with both kids.

[@Justice_87]

Lets just settle this. If it wasnt for Brandy, no one would know who the norwood family is. Ray j would be a regular nobody. Let keep it real. He has rode brandys coat tail for yearsssss and has lived off of her fame. Ray j has no real talent.

[@glassbikes]

Facts

[@danninicole85]

Ray J and Sonja are exactly alike. I feel for Brandy. She's right Sonja does play favoritism.

[@adroutt1985]

Sonya favors ray j because she feels she left him while on road with brandy. So she feels like she owes it to him and his career. I hope they've balanced that out now in 2020

[@whitneysanders3036]

Exactly!!

[@SophiliaLarkWoodbury]

I know this ia like 10 years old, but I clearly see what Brandy is talking about. Sonia starts out in defensive mode. She's all about finding a way to defend herself when all Brandy is asking for is for her mom to listen. She wants to be heard. She wants Sonia to see the pain sitting right in front of her, but Sonia is too busy trying to defend herself. I felt that when Brandy said, "Clearly, you don't get it."

[@IAMJEWEL7]

My LunaVerse honestly I don’t think it changed much because her Mom probably didn’t change....I hope I’m wrong

[@kjstarr2893]

Momma Norwood gets defensive and over bearing, because she's knows that YOU'RE FIRED, is in the future. Shes a stone trip!

[@blackdiamond8546]

Wait a minute Ray J call his mother by her first name? wow

[@adroutt1985]

Willie sr is the real MVP... he handled that like a grown man should

[@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves]

Brandy's mother is crazy I think she babies Ray J because she's guilty the fact that she was on the road with Brandy alot when he was a child and didn't give him the attention he needs but she didn't realize that she's doing even more damage and I think she was too up on Brandy and very controlling and that's why Brandy is still angry and bitter with her mother because her mother doesn't recognize and won't apologize for it whatever she did to her when she was younger she won't apologize for it because her ass isn't sorry about it and she don't care about her feelings she is a true narcissist

[@imperfectlyguided8098]

Yesssss

[@Bintimrembo-y1v]

Sometimes its best to divorce yourself from toxic fam members

[@CiaraITB]

Miami Bajan Facts

[@freelybeing6182]

The scene where Sonia was playing the piano and Brandy walked in reminded me of the scene in Double Platinum.

[@asiagibson3632]

in writing what I was going to write I realized Brandys mom is narcissistic. The behaviors she was saying in reference to Brandy are actually her own characteristics due to her not wanting to take responsibility.

[@k.t.295]

The mom afraid her time up..they dont really need her much anymore. Brandy needs to understand she has outgrown them. Girl get your life and go on..

[@summerflanigan8673]

If it helps your child you acknowledge how they are feeling even if you don’t perceive it that way what’s most important is you making your child ok. Well making you and your child ok. Just say I’m sorry that’s all you have to do then that issue is over

[@s.scarlett7835]

I need Mr. Norwood to counsel me. Someone find him and let him know please

[@asiagibson3632]

Brandy's father is so beautiful. The level of patience he has is awing.

[@1Butterfly404]

Agreed! I love his temperament. He has the most wonderful relationship with his children...one to envy.❤️

[@MiillieMesh]

He is so balanced. I think that's why Sonja got with him. He softens her rough edges lol

[@saetae9208]

Nah, he's too passive

[@natlovesfashion27]

He said .... "Just because I'm not taking the business meetings right away, doesn't mean they aren't being taken." LMMFAO!!!

[@4hrtslolz]

It's amazing how people that's being shown favoritism say they never see it.

[@UniquelyJas]

She said “ smashing the homies” lmao 😭😂💀

[@GoddessPower777]

Wouldn’t straight call her out on the favoritism. I would have ended our business relationship right then. She’s narcissistic and owns nothing. Only be her daughter and see how she feels.

[@NajSinghs]

@Miami Bajan Right. #WillfullyBlind

[@shaesdivinetarot]

Once again I see what Princess was dealing with.. Sonya and Ray J were her main problems

[@lisasnails4210]

I’m so thankful that I have a loving n caring mother that tells me she loves me everyday ❤️ I feel bad for Brandy, I couldn’t imagine my own mom treating me the way she treats Brandy.

[@erlingwilliams5685]

Mr. Norwood-- "Brandy talks to me the WAY she wants to talk to you"Wow, so deepAnyone could tell that she favors RayJ over Brandy

[@angelinaflores4513]

I feel where Brandy is coming from if I do something off I get held accountable for but if. My bro does something bad he gets off the hook lol 🤦

[@denisiahunter1531]

I hate to say it, but I see why Princess be going off on his mother and Brandy sometimes...they really need to hold Ray accountable for his actions...but also Princess need to know what family she married into they don’t air their business out on social media...this episode could be a reason why this show never got picked up for more seasons this was probably too much for Sonja.

[@tijuanajackson9799]

REST IN PEACE SHAWN!!! Such a funny, remarkable and loving man. One who Loved God, his family and his friends. One who can also be Admired!!!

[@tijuanajackson9799]

@My LunaVerse He's one of the producers in the video. He died in a car accident last year sometime. He also use to make guest appearances on the Tamar and Vince reality show as well as produced some of her music.

[@delorishall946]

It's because you are not hearing your child you are only hearing the artist mom don't know how to separate the two Brandi is yearning for her mother and not her manager

[@amakalorraine6213]

Mom your wrong and brandy is right you say she's cold and you just went to get water like your daughter isn't crying to be heard and seen yes she's your artist but she's your daughter both avenues you being wrong

[@stellanagita5644]

I love Ray J and Brandys voices together.

[@amakalorraine6213]

Mr. Norwood needs to tell his wife something

[@Bintimrembo-y1v]

Nah she wears the pants

[@RiversBliss]

Brandy didn't bring any stripper or did anything so why is she part of it, I am confused.

[@angelicone4502]

I pray that this mother, daughter, son relationship is scripted, and not a reality. My heart is breaking for Brandy. It's like Brandy is the mother, and her mom is the daughter, and Ray J....is a narcissistic MF. RT

[@Bintimrembo-y1v]

Nope its real, sadly very real aince 1994

[@Dutell.sheIsHer]

@@Bintimrembo-y1v i concur...

[@orneryantics]

Bran nu need to get someone else to manage her and work on her mother/daughter relationship. It appears they haven't had a mother or daughter in years.

[@aroramami206]

Wake up Sonia..Brandy made this business

[@patriciapowell1560]

brandy is a sweet girl.

[@patriciapowell1560]

it's not brandy that's the problem,its her mom,and the mom does favor AJ over brandy

[@NiaMSnow]

Sonja favorites ray j yet brandy gave each and every one of them a come up

[@spheleleshange6023]

daddy is a beat weak though.. what does he mean if he say's he doesn't pick side's.. it not about picking sides it about right and wrong regardless of which side is it ,MOM\BRANDY

[@amakalorraine6213]

No Sonja that's you not seeing anyone but yourself ugh that was so wrong mom

[@flexingingodspeace7774]

It is about favoritism. Ray J. is her favorite.

[@SIRENTHEROCKER]

She should write a song about her mom

[@amakalorraine6213]

Ugh ray stop calling her Sonja and you saying it so disrespectful

[@miamiller7585]

This is why you should not spoil your kids. My childred would never have permission to call me by my first name. Where do they do that at we don't allow this in the black community.

[@tamarajohnson2824]

YES that was bothering me soooo much SMH

[@DelGloTa]

Then do not work for your kids. Simple. But when you choose to be an employee, and you instruct your kid to separate family from business, then you are Sonja at work and mom elsewhere.

[@0RoseRed]

Mia Miller My Ma would give me the slaps if I called her by her first name 👋😂 btw I'm Irish/Chinese.

[@stacib1199]

They mother exhausts me!!!

[@alejad41]

This daddy of hers 🥰😩

[@flexingingodspeace7774]

She talks to Ray totally different then Brandy. Stop calling your mother Sonya, put some respect on it.

[@deebaby227]

Never let familey mix with your life with your career 😒

[@ForeverFit72]

wonder where her career would have taken her if her mom had not been her manager

[@Ebony_]

Her mother needs to chill regardless.

[@GoddessPower777]

Brandy is the talent. Her mom doing some good doesn’t mean she gets to mistreat her. It doesn’t mean Brandy should take all her crap. Respect the artist who made a way for her to have the life she lives. What other people is she managing? Ray? We see how his music career went. Brandy made it possible

[@koudousmoutairou6074]

Why does it feel like I'm watching an episode of Moesha

[@amakalorraine6213]

Brandy ain't perfect but you was wrong

[@marielagent4387]

I am 100% in agreeance with Brandy and her mom is not hearing her. So sad. And to me, if you keep saying you're done, be gone. If she worked for someone who was not a family member, she would've already been gone whether willingly or not so willingly.

[@amakalorraine6213]

Ray j was wrong and you blamed her wrong mom

[@gabydunne1]

Poor Brandy. Her mom does not understand that communication has a tone. All she has to do is tone it down and just apologize for saying that Ray J's friend is a nobody. Even if its true. Just say you were upset and Brandy you are right, I shouldn't of said that. End of problem. But it takes a certain character to do that. So it won't happen. Poor Brandy.

[@nesoldier74]

I forgot about this show and for the love of ray j.

[@dawonlott3640]

Good show. Brandy reminds me of my big sister. She tells me the real.

[@naijagoddesss]

Definitely favouritism

[@stephaniemiller5165]

Yea she has favoritism with Ray, and Ray is such a charmer he has charmed his mother and studies her at the same time. He has studied his mom so well he knows her like the back of his hand. Look how well he laid out the three points mon was upset about without even being present for monst of it. But he knows she want be mad at him. WHAT MOM DONT GET IS THAT THE REASON RAY JAYS FRIENDS DISRESPECT HER.......IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE RESPECT HER SON HAS FOR HER and they see the lack that is why his friends disrespect her. MOM has some hidden issues with her daughter as well and some Major guilt and that's why it hurts her to hear Brandy bring up these things cus she know she is wrong......

[@estherscotlenzey2370]

Ray J think he is bigger than Brandy and no one will allow him to take responsibility for his actions... Thats why he still running around on his wife. They will nerver tell Ray J he is wrong

[@kandispowell9254]

Episode 6 is missing.

[@TaurusUndefeated]

I'm still confused as to what their family businesses is and how is this particularly helping Brandy's career even when they show was on, highly confused😩

[@NajSinghs]

A&R iThink

[@MickieMama23]

She acts just like my mom ive always been the black sheep...poor brandy just be different with your daughter cuz thats what im doin with my babies there aint no favorites periodt

[@bridgetteyoung1930]

Love lashawn 💙💙💙💙 rest in love

[@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves]

What I don't understand is it's been well this show is old so I want to say about 20 years that Brandy's mom has been managing her career you have been with your daughter on the road concerts TV shows meet and greets album release parties and all this stuff how can you not know your child how can they not come to some type of agreement Ray J is full of shit he knows his mother favors him he contradicts himself and said it in his own words

[@soniandah-sekou1587]

From what I see from this show,Sonja is almost submissive when she talks to ray, but with Brandy it's like she likes to say things and watch her squirm there is almost a rivalry there that's tangible

[@bouncingback3]

Dont use the term at all Sonja😭 Listen Sonja😭 Come on Sonja😭

[@musement7446]

Idk i feel like sonja threatened by brandy.. You can look at her and see she a star and she dont really need her and she got morals her mom dont got and it scare her

[@k.t.295]

What music is RayJ making?

[@k.t.295]

The husband just checked Moms..yes help her open her eyes.

[@andremcelroy1281]

Keisha Terrell doo doo

[@lanajohnson2100]

😂😫🥴

[@adroutt1985]

Shay think she gone be brandy permanent manager.. no ma'am

[@KingofgraceSARA]

Ray is delusion 😂

[@ccrdcd38]

brandy is the star ray j is a tag along y'all not Michael and Janet ok get yo life

[@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves]

Chris Davis 😂💀

[@thingsiwonder2001]

Ray J sounds ignorant

[@knaledgewill1504]

yeah he might but it's 2017 n how r all these celebs making money club appearances in this was in 2008 09 he was ahead of his game

[@thingsiwonder2001]

I was referring to his manner of speech. Something he berated his "boy" for and who sounds exactly like him. :)

[@knaledgewill1504]

+Things I Wonder exactly , but just a man say to a woman , a woman say to a man u they gon b who they gon b can't get mad if they don't change

[@thingsiwonder2001]

I'm not sure you understand me, in any case, I was just making an observation. Ray J is a hypocrite to give his friend such a severe tongue lashing for behavior equal to his own.

[@knaledgewill1504]

+Things I Wonder what am I not understanding , i what u said maybe u didn't hear me clear he is the he is , and it's purposely done so therefore it's not ignorant cuz they say that word is when one doesn't know , not no , okay baby

[@lindagracia7135]

Tell her daddy...I will always admit I was always a daddy's girl. Me and my mom were never and will never be close but that's okay. At the end of the day she's my mom..

[@loado6787]

Brandy’s mum need Iyanla to fix her life. Her disfunction is inhibiting a healthy relationship with Brandy & will show up in RayJ’s future relationships. She doesn’t realise she is manipulative

[@Dutell.sheIsHer]

Huh...something is not adding up....there is something else a lot deeper is going on that has not been shared in this segment and overall .js.

[@shaneatkinson8933]

I could tell Brandy had bipolar relationship with her mum

[@mezmathews4513]

💕💖💗💓💞 Brandy Let Shay be your manager...

[@estherscotlenzey2370]

Poor Brandy 😢

[@lanajohnson2100]

Rest easy Lashawn 💔❣

[@seaserenity5971]

💕💕💕

[@0206-b8z]

Who is LaShawn

[@0206-b8z]

My condolences to you all

[@estherscotlenzey2370]

I love brandy father beautiful Spirit

[@angelalove_]

Ray J did not get the musical skills that Brandy possesses

[@thekonversationwithkaleaf]

I wish they would stop acting like they don’t all work for Brandy. No one would care about any of this if Brandy wasn’t involved

[@virgo7956]

RIP Lashawn "Shiz" Daniels

[@Ms.speakitout]

They MoMA is the reason why they are has been NOW... nobody wanted to work with her...I was going to book Brandy for an event and after talking to that MoMA I moved on...way onnnnnn

[@CiaraITB]

Was she really that unreasonable? At first I used to think it was because she was just overprotective of her kids in the industry but now I’m starting to think she really was a control freak, even with Brandy.

[@Ms.speakitout]

@@CiaraITB VERY much so!!!! Wants to control EVERY thing

[@adrianking6072]

Man that one hurt me Ray J talks to me the way he talks to you, that’s right; Brandy talks to me the way she WANTS to talk to you

[@AshriyaCamara]

Danm Ray j too FUNNY

[@Bintimrembo-y1v]

And disrespectful

[@AshriyaCamara]

@@Bintimrembo-y1v true...

[@Teraney]

Broooooo. My mama says the same thing this woman said to her daughter! I'll free you from me and blah blah blah. That's wild yo