On Being Sane in Insane Places - The Rosenhan Study (Intro Psych Tutorial

[@Alresu]

Probable correction: Every other source I know speaks of only one hospital for the second part of the study.

[@PsychExamReview]

This is correct, thanks for catching it! There was only one hospital where staff were explicitly instructed to watch for pseudo-patients over a 3-month period and to assess the likelihood incoming patients were pseudo-patients using a 10-point confidence scale. According to Rosenhan, of 193 incoming patients 41 were suspected by at least one staff member; 23 were suspected by at least one psychiatrist.

[@nadineg1889]

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[@CaseyMcKenna]

Yes here too! October 2024 Intake

[@targetedindividual5793]

If they say they have a problem then they are going to look for problems.

[@solomonherskowitz]

Thanks so much for this

[@PsychExamReview]

You're welcome!

[@solomonherskowitz]

@@PsychExamReview can i ask you psychopathy be totally developed without any physiology traits at birth

[@TheButterZone]

So what happened with the non-pseudo-patients, did Rosenhan have a contingency for getting them on the way out, into a facility that would diagnose & treat properly?

[@PsychExamReview]

In the original study all patients were pseudo-patients, none were actually in need of treatment. In the follow-up, Rosenhan simply didn't send anyone; so anyone arriving at that hospital had no connection to Rosenhan (but he didn't tell the hospital this). During a 3-month period the hospital assessed all incoming patients for their likelihood of being a pseudo-patient on a 10-point confidence scale, so any suspected pseudo-patients would still have been admitted and treated but any suspicions would have been noted in case Rosenhan later revealed a patient to have been a pseudo-patient (which, of course, he didn't because he hadn't sent any). Hope this is clearer!

[@CaseyMcKenna]

Wondering what type of treatment these pseudo patients were given? If medication did this have any affects on the patients because I would imagine there would be some type of reaction to them

[@PsychExamReview]

@@CaseyMcKenna Great question; the pseudopatients were taught how to "cheek" their pills (hiding them in their mouth and pretending to swallow them) prior to entry so that they could avoid any medications that they were given.

[@msgoody2shoes959]

To not label someone, is not the opposite of labeling someone who isn't mentally ill. Not labeling is exactly what should be done. Much time given in observed care, and see if the illness passes with out drugs. However, most psych drugs can take years to recover from.

[@jimmyfortef3674]

Yea, if ever speaking with a psychiatrist or psychologist, seeking help for example, you need to be very careful with your wording. They seem trigger happy to give a diagnosis and prescribe medications. The psychologists I've met personally in social settings have been even more jaded than the average person, and to have been a stranger seeking help, would terrify me to think these are the people I've placed trust in with my psyche

[@jimmyfortef3674]

Jaded is the wrong word sorry, I mean they seemed more emotionally confused or conflicted than the average person lol

[@PsychExamReview]

You're correct that potential patients' abilities to describe their symptoms carefully to psychiatrists may play a role in diagnosis or misdiagnosis. I should also add that Rosenhan's work helped to change some diagnostic practices and receiving a diagnosis based on a single non-distressful symptom shouldn't occur today.

[@jimmyfortef3674]

Appears to be rampant here in Australia, where people walk into a meeting and walk out with an anti-depressant prescription

[@PsychExamReview]

Yeah, there are certainly valid concerns about over-prescription of anti-depressants, particularly when they are prescribed by general practitioners rather than psychiatrists. I'll be sure to address this in a future video!

[@amritamitra3053]

Please reduce your speed of speech. Thank you

[@pat9625]

Just slow down the video

[@chillerebus2260]

you talk like Ben Shapiro

[@michelekelpin7424]

Lol