On "Quitting YouTube"

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Tony and Chelsea give their thoughts on why KZbinrs are stepping back, burning out, and Quitting.

[@davidmilisock5200]

Being retired and not having to work helps me enjoy photography.

[@Powerstroke98]

Me as well, and although I preferred my 'age' when I was working, I'm still thankful I can get up when I feel like doing so (usually 5 Am, because I went to bed early) and I can go for a drive with my camera, and look for unique compositions, to add to the many I already have!

[@waltermayr339]

As a professional photographer, I have never enjoyed photography as much as I do now that I only do it for the joy of it.

[@SirRommy]

Understood. Being retired and not having to work helps one to enjoy, well, everything! I'm getting close!

[@wanderingrenegade771]

I am not trying to work in photography so that helps.

[@clairehachey2189]

I've always loved this channel and can't even imagine the time you put into creating your videos. Just know I appreciate each and every single one!

[@TonyAndChelsea]

That’s so nice!

[@timjohnson3877]

Having worked in video prod/post-prod, in LA, I'm nodding at absolutely everything you just said. The honesty, integrity, and great humor you guys bring continue to make this the best photography channel on KZbin. Never change 🙂

[@chelseanorthrup8787]

Thank you 😊

[@arrowguy173]

I second, third and fourth this. 😎

[@trisinogy]

Hear, hear!

[@darrylm79]

Oh my god, I LOL'ed at the plucking hairs on cat's balls. Geez Chelsea - letting it rip today! Love it. You guys are a great team, please keep putting out fabulous videos, and do not let the industry get you jaded. I get a lot of value from what you guys put out.

[@chelseanorthrup8787]

Cat balls to corporate events is a wild trajectory…

[@marcushawkinsmusic]

I’ve been doing KZbin on and off for about 10 years. Also, I’ve been following you guys since the beginning and I felt honored that you used some of my music in the early episodes of the podcast. ❤❤❤

[@InspireDogworks]

I've loved the realness and vulnerability that you're willing to show despite the inevitable haters and challenges.

[@DBaizan]

There are lots of photography-oriented KZbin channels, but, as far as I know, you both are the only couple who does it. I appreciate the information you both share on your channel, but please know that you're my heroes for being a fun and kind couple while at work. Bravo to you!

[@roebears4326]

You guys are so down to earth. I’ve been watching for years and continue to enjoy your videos.

[@showthestory]

Y'all do a great job. I appreciate your genuineness. It's discouraging to live in the social media world of "tearing others down." I hope you find satisfaction in your work and that you can maintain a steady pace.

[@marcogutierrez9700]

I look up to you guys, smart, personable, educated, interesting people. I hope you don't go away.

[@ToddLecher]

You two are amazing! Such a wide variety of content always delivered in a genuine straightforward manner. Thanks for all your effort, your content is a priceless addition to the photographic community!

[@MartianCitizen]

Your two are an absolute example of a successful and polished KZbin channel. Your knowledge and insight of photography/videography is a godsend for so many of us starting our own journey down a similar path. Thank you Tony and Chelsea for all the years you have given to us. I hope you both continue to provide us with many more years and videos. As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying... From the little red planet... 👽👽👽👽

[@OpenDGuitar]

I’ve raised a discussion of this with my senior seminar students (I teach video/electronic media)…today’s college students are very entrepreneurial…so I caution them about expectations. The grandfather of van life videos is on record about how few KZbinrs make real $. Great discussion here…YOU GUYS CAN’T QUIT! I use your demos with beginners. I have your books too. I was a Vet Tech in undergrad and grad school (30yrs ago)…it keeps you real!

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Being a vet tech definitely keeps you real. I never have a hard day at work as bad as my vet tech days

[@SwiftEagleOne]

Your contents are as always useful and enjoyable.

[@ElMacho0423]

Love how real you guys are!

[@jimmyha5212]

I want a video that talks about all these hottakes on youtubers quitting. /s I hope tony and Chelsea don't quit. Y'all are cool.

[@chelseanorthrup8787]

I don’t plan on quitting but if I do it’s going to be dramatic and flames will be involved 🔥

[@jimmyha5212]

@@chelseanorthrup8787 Please use a bunch of Leica and Olympus cameras for kindling.

[@abhisheknamdeo]

I don’t care about any other KZbinr, but Mr. Beast should never leave KZbin. He is the one who is doing something for society without worrying about what others are doing.

[@aashishkanji8051]

Any job comes with stress and being a creator will have many stresses. I don't know how people do it because when I started on my path (to fund my nonprofit, not even to feed my family) I actually almost lost my passion for photography and did burnout with the cumulative stress of constantly delivering. Thanks for the honest video and the work you put in

[@spicypdx]

Hugs to you both!!!! I very much appreciate and learn from your material, thank you for your time. And you’re right about eventually taking things for granted. You do have to work at keeping grounded.

[@MaksimYuryev]

Wow. I’ve watched a lot of these since I’m in a similar contemplative spot and this is by far the best one. I love that you covered so many aspects of why someone might quit or change what they are doing instead of the “spend more time” angle. Miss you guys!

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Thanks, Max! That means a lot especially coming from you. I'd like to hear more abut what you've been up to lately. I'll have to see if Tony has your # so we can all catch up

[@cheapaudioman]

Sage advice, wisdom, and experience. I legitimately would not be a full time KZbinr had it not been for your channel. You two are the best. Here’s to another 10 years on YT!

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Thank you!

[@AstroLaVista]

Thanks for being down to Earth and real, as well as one of the channels that helps me personally keep on plugging away at KZbin. 200 videos and 5-6 years in, I've had a good taste of the hard work KZbin is on top of the day job, kids etc. I love the banter (as we say in the UK) you two have; it often puts a smile on my face. Just know that the vast majority of us appreciate you guys.

[@dansatMaryland]

After 44 years in TV, I often see KZbin channels where they are experiencing things I went through over the years. Tony you are spot on about the haters. When you get enough of a viewership, they will come out of the woodwork. You have to learn to ignore them but get good advice from the normal people! I know how hard you are working to produce your content and I appreciate it. You teach me so much! Dan in Md.

[@jasoncario7063]

I love that you tackled the financial aspect and getting real on how 'work' on yt is different from real work!

[@johns5967]

Yes, please DO a video and discuss how small entrepreneurs can prepare for eventual retirement. It will happen to us all.

[@robertharvey2580]

Hats off to both of you. I tried having my own channel, but I’m so shy that I just couldn’t turn the camera around and show myself… I hope this channel sticks around for a while. You’ve had such a positive impact on photography through your honest reviews and how to’s.

[@mdyrkacz1]

You guys are always so level headed and thoughtful in your videos, be it talking about gear or just life. I’ve also seen some of the most familiar youtubers talking about quitting, in what seemed like an attention grab. Yours was the most thoughtful I’ve seen. Cheers!

[@lstefani5503]

I've just started watching your videos again after a long hiatus. The reason I stopped watching for a while was because I do one type of photography - real estate and haven't had a need to watch any camera/lens reviews. Just upgraded to the Canon R6. I started watching again because a friend of my daughter's asked if I would photograph her wedding which brings me back to KZbin tutorials. I've always enjoyed your videos, Tony & Chelsea, so am reviewing some of your photography tips. (Note: The bride is very clear that I have never shot a wedding and my photographic expertise is for real estate - a stationary subject. I did do my daughter's engagement photos and pregnancy photos for one of her friends - these turned out pretty well.)

[@WorldAccordingToBriggs]

I hit 1 million subs and started taking on sponsors, next thing I knew I was being called a sellout.

[@mickandtrudie]

Hi you lovely people we only have a 10th of the following you have on KZbin but we have been through everything that you talk about in this video for me now 63. I just enjoy making content but I don’t go on the treadmill I do it when I like to do it, and I take my time, and I always hope my content is as good as the BBC But I never feel like stopping creating videos and I’ll probably be doing them until I’m in my box and I think Tony will be the same 🤣🤠❤️ by the way, I’ve just bought the Dji Osmo pocket three, and I love my Lumix S5

[@JennyWoodShangraw]

Thank you for helping me be a better photographer and Lightroom Classic and Photoshop developer. Chelsea, you get a hug from me. Burnout and depression are more normal than you think. Being in the 'sandwich generation' means you are now experiencing family stressful situations amongst your older and younger generations. As a 1949 Polio Survivor, you both a made a HUGE difference in helping me become a decent street photographer who focuses on persons with a disability. Yes, KZbin can be a bloodsucker! Hugs and Blessings.

[@HarleyDoc86]

I have really enjoyed your videos! I have been a photographer for over 60 years and have rarely shot videos and in my mind thought I might “like” to try KZbin. I have attempted to do do videos and found how difficult it really is. I have come to the conclusion that my learning curve has gone vertical! I applaud you both for what you do and thank you.

[@jackconboy3013]

Thanks for all you do for us. You make a difference. I am growing in my skill set largely because of you.

[@benoloughlin1557]

I’m glad you’re not leaving… yet! I can’t tell you how much I have appreciated all the content you have produced. It’s certainly been a cornerstone in the development of my knowledge and skill as a photographer. Thank you, again!

[@scientist100]

We have an Etsy page where we are getting drilled with fees to the point where a lot of orders were not fulfilled. There are always drawbacks when it comes to selling certain items and this industry is no different. One has to realize the limitations of what you can deliver and make enough to stay afloat without burning out. It is hard to be entrepeneurial without having some sort of burnout. One gets confy with a good paying job that you forget how hard it is for some people to make half of what you make. Dont give up though, there are better things coming and always express yourself so that everyone is aware of whats going on, communication is key.

[@DennisKapatos]

Love you guys. Been watching since 2012 and I try to make sure I have a full red bar along the bottom of every video (marked watched). Also I'm super excited the live show is back! God bless 😁

[@elijahbunting8119]

My wife introduced me to you guys Chanel. She has been watching you guys since 2015. Every photography question I’ve had you guys have an answer for it. We also have a KZbin channel and we were excited for making it to 225 followers. Glad you guys have stuck around

[@PMCN53]

A great session Chelsea & Tony, your experience is invaluable & based on real life experience. I've been following your channel for some years now & the content & quality is consistently excellent. Keep on going ....PLEASE !

[@TheWriteAngle]

As an author, I've had plenty of dealings with haters, but cannot understand why anyone would accuse someone of faking burnout. That is cold and heartless. I'm glad you got through it and are on the other side. I've always enjoyed your books and videos and hope you both continue to have successful careers on and off KZbin.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

My first channel made in its first few months more money than my current one has made in 5 years! To get monetized on KZbin is virtually impossible nowadays! Theres no way i could get the 3000 hours of watch time without a video going viral or something!

[@jdqc]

Thank you for your channel and valuable comments and contents. Also thanks for you evaluation of my photo yesterday....;-) (nearly the last one with the lady hat and fashion position)

[@OMNIFICPICTURES]

First of all I’ve been watching you two for ever. Maybe the beginning? You both are pretty people, sincere and successful. I don’t have to agree with everything but still think of you as contributing to the platform and life In general. Thanks for all the years of entertainment, and education and considerations etc. I’ll keep watching.

[@girlbro595]

I enjoy your content immensely!! I look to you guys for new gear reviews and providing an educated view on everything having to do with photography. I get the exhaustion too. It’s ok to do you. Chelsea, i am glad you’re back and feeling better. But it’s also ok not be ok!! We all deal with it in one way or another. God bless u both and thank you for the content!! btw, i have a Nikon D750 and z50 and appreciate d ur info on both!! ♥️

[@InspireDogworks]

Happy birthday doggy! Couldn't even hear her scratching but I love it

[@roelkouwen4547]

Just to add a positive comment. I absolutely love both of you. It’s so cool to see you both working together doing what you love. I’m jealous. Thank you for all the time and passion you put into this. Will always be excited when I see a new video from you.

[@allengillis2636]

Happy birthday Pixel! Also, Happy birthday Tony!!! You are truely a nifty Fifty. Also, you both are absolutely amazing no matter what all the haters say.

[@ScottishVanTrips]

This was great. A simple path to wealth book is awesome, defo recommend. I'd love to see a behind the scenes video! Check out diary of s ceo, behind the diary. How do you produce your videos, writing scripts, filming. ❤

[@TeddyRumble]

Yeah, the nuts and bolts of producing a utube episode. Helps to have attractive people, 'cause it's a visual medium. As they say, I have a face for radio.

[@user-tl2ub8cz4v]

I was born in 1960. My dad gave me a Canon F-1 in 1972. I started a pet portrait business in High School and made a lot of money. I wanted a photography career, but I did not know how to do it. I was also a science and engineering wiz so I worked hard and earned a doctorate, but I always wondered about being in photography. At 45 I became the CEO of one of the largest photography companies in the US with 10K employees. The challenge was to make portrait photography fun and profitable. I did that job for 8 years and loved it, but it made photography a grind. Since then, I shoot mainly wildlife and landscape photography where I can be away from people and enjoy the outdoors. I have changed up my career every 8-10 years. No one should be doing the same thing forever.

[@Coatsey007]

This is probably one of your best videos, I love the genuine candour and humour.

[@ericlowenbach5151]

You guys are always so mindful and engaged. It's great.

[@petersvan7880]

Always fun watching you both, greetings from Sweden!

[@zigatretjak75]

That is a really good vlog, down to earth and non-bashing. Thank you.

[@Bob-Horse]

I have been there with you all the way, watching most of your videos 🙏🏻

[@phillipmaguire4671]

I am from Australia, and have had my own music videos that I have personally produced and streaming on KZbin, and don't get anything from them. I am not monetised with them because of some changes that KZbin made years ago. They put ads onto my content, but don't pay me a cent. This is against Australian laws and they are very likely to get into BIG trouble with the Australian regulator very soon, just like Google and Facebook did, when they flaunted Australian media laws.

[@AlienDrones]

And THAT's how a professional nonchalantly works the words "cat's balls" into a conversation and doesn't miss a beat... lol. Good for you guys, thanks for the content! 👏😎

[@CarolineJensen]

I love how real you guys are! Refreshingly honest

[@ChristianPecksteiner]

Nice and honest. The "more time with my family" thing was an eye opener. It's actually "I am rich enough to not upload videos to YT anymore".

[@krane15]

Is that is?

[@BerlsMcSquirrels]

I love how you talk about success in a real way, mentioning the money and acclimating to the perks while still sounding relatable. I think a lot of other "quitting KZbin" videos just come off as spoiled, or not appreciative of being a millionaire on KZbin. You guys always keep it 100%

[@DelmaRaySmithJr]

Unique dyadic connections you two make interacting with one another is what is nurturing for me regardless of how you're talking, regardless of what you're saying.

[@maximusaugustus6823]

Daniel Day-Lewis, the greatest actor in the business, has quit at the prime of his remarkable career.

[@shakerman55]

You two have brought me through some very hard times. I started watching you when my mother got sick, and I watched for two years until she died. I can’t describe what that time was like, but you guys helped me through some dark hours. You have no idea what impact you both have had on people. I will always watch and respect both of you.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

It brings tears to my eyes thinking that we were able to bring you a little bit of joy during an unimaginatively difficult time. I’m so sorry for your loss ❤ Chelsea

[@GSAirTherapy]

And just for that, I’m watching your sponsorship message all the way through. Been watching you for years - thank you for keeping at it!!

[@drdehailey]

You guys are the best. I have never had such open insight into the KZbin world.

[@broskies2598]

I've done two videos, haha, with my phone for fun and have no views or scribes. But waiting for my check that never came . Maybe I'll wait another 4 years to see if anything happens. You two are great inspiration of photography, never stop having fun!!

[@lcd7556]

My wife once mentioned to a professional artist that I had an art hobby. She looked very sad when she turned to me and said something the the effect: Keep it a hobby, once you start to do it for a living it is not longer so much fun. On a separate note: Thank you for pulling back the curtain on KZbin producers. Professionals, particularly presentation professionals, often hide the sausage making from their clients. Everyone benefits by know what goes on in the thousands of KZbin workshops out there.

[@sophietucker1255]

You know the old joke that goes, “the only way to make money as a photographer is to sell your equipment.” I think the other one is “the way a billionaire becomes a millionaire is to become a photographer”.

[@darrellkc48]

Thank you for the insight into content creation's rewards and pitfalls. I have always enjoyed how you try to be fair in your appraisals and comparisons of products, and willing to share your hard-earned photo tips. Please keep doing what you are doing. And Chelsea, your hair always looks good, but that isn't why I watch you guy's channel. 🙂

[@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures]

I have recently seen many KZbinrs talk about quitting/leaving or cutting back on content production and claiming various reasons. After 27 years as a sworn law enforcement official, I retired to become a beach bum. When I began creative writing three years into being a bum, I wrote nearly three hundred blog posts during my first year. My writing fell off when I traveled outside Southwest Florida during the summer. I attempted to video blog my travels only to discover that pre and post-production video blogs took time, and it became a job. In my previous career, I worked steadily for well over a quarter of my life without the option nor consideration to quit or reduce my responsibilities. So, like many KZbinrs, the individual must find their medium to satisfy their creative content of something they love. Tony and Chelsea, thanks for the video and the inspiration to become a photographer.

[@JeffandLeslie]

I agree with much of what you all are saying. Anytime you do something for money, it is a job. Good news is I do KZbin videos for fun and to share nature photography. I worked at a corporate job for 36 years, was totally stressed out and beyond burned out. It was impacting my health and my relationships. I retired. I don't plan to turn YT into another job. One thing about some of the bigger channels stepping back, it does leave a little more oxygen in the room for smaller creators.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

Your journey sounds like mine! Retired federal manager, now a nature photographer and KZbinr. I'm fortunate to not need KZbin money thanks to a generous pension. But not being monetized means I spend a lot of time and effort on each video without recompense. I keep doing it because it's fun, and the comments I get tell me I'm bringing value to people.

[@classic.cameras]

I have been following Tony Northrup since he was a tech-nerd from the east coast reviewing camera gear. 😉

[@Dwyeb73]

On a serious note I have been watching you guys for about 8 years. Your videos were and have always been important to my photography growth. I consider your channel as a staple. You are right though in the past (I am older than both you) it was a privilege to take a great image. Now with phones having “good enough” images you really have to be a great photographer to make money. Good enough with the phone camera is good enough for most. I wish there would be as much development in the DSLR innovations to keep me at a greater distance from phone images which in return would help keep the value of my images up with the cost of shooting DSLR. People are bombard with pictures now so it’s just not as big a deal as in the past. Needs to be some major breakthroughs in the DSLR market to set us set us photographers apart.

[@ohnezuckerohnefett]

This is one of the most honest, open, vulnerable talks about the kind of work you do. Very good, thanks a lot! You're great, keep it up!

[@shouldigetit]

The title copy directly from MKBHD is something else…

[@frankbafumi7025]

I really liked this video. Have you ever done a “day in the life” of a KZbinr type video? I think a bunch of us would like to see that. Anyway, thank you!

[@RoySATX]

I've brought up on other channels the fact that money is never mentioned on the YT bail videos. The other thing I have noticed is the "fame bubble" is the same regardless of what format the fame was acquired in. Hollywood actors, corporate media peronalities, sports stars, social media creators/influencers, they all develop a disconnect with how life operates beyond their peer bubble. What is odd is I haven't noticed the public giving social media peronalities the same amount of addoration as they do to others who's fame came from somewhere outside social platforms. Then again, I don't know for sure because I've never been one to admire fame. What I do know and do admire is neither of you seem to have fallen into the bubble. That is a rare trait that so few "famous" people have.

[@resqbrett]

I appreciate the reflection on using KZbin. Thank you!

[@hrg3design905]

I've been subscribed and enjoying all you present. So that's my moment of good on "ya". Burn-out is real depression is real. I spent 20 plus years running the Community College of Denver Engineering Graphics program (Computer Aided Design/Drafting), advising students, building curriculum, breaking in new Deans and Presidents, being father and therapist to a high percentage of those students that according to state education requirement you have to make sure they complete and get employment. Also let's not talk about having to find enough students each semester to keep the program going! I didn't really know how much it was killing me, it took a therapist to give me a card saying "let go or be dragged". I really like what you both do, your slowly helping me be the photographer I'm hoping to be. But ultimately be true to yourself, and be well.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I’m so glad you were able to let go and find peace

[@hair2050]

I’m in the group you mentioned Tony. I was into still photography and after agonizing over the latest Sony for years finally decided to only do smartphone. I learned a huge amount from your channel and appreciate the work that you both, and your crew, do. But I’ve perhaps at most watched one of your videos in the past year. I’m learning other skills now, from KZbin.

[@RichardCookphotography]

Very interesting video. Thank you. As a KZbinr with a tiny channel it’s interesting to see the challenges that large channels also have. I appreciate your candor. Well done guys👍🤞🙏😀

[@cerl981]

One of the reasons I love watching your videos is how genuine you are. Keep up the awesome work ❤

[@antonoat]

Interesting topic, I think it's easy to forget how much effort guys like you two put into these things, kudos to you and congrats for coming this far!

[@tedsmith_photography]

A very helpful and honestly insightful video - thanks - great to get a perspective of the realities from experienced people. I keep wobbling with whether to start or not, on KZbin. I am conscious of the "once its posted, it may always be there in some form", and who knows whether I will want that a year from now, or 10 years from now.

[@jeffreylane7647]

You folks do some nice work. Keep it up. I very much like the content you produce, it has been a help in some of the choices i have had to make with my photography.

[@Ratsters]

Thanks guys, for the consistency! No matter the subject, it's always interesting ... Cheers

[@MaunoKoivistoOfficial]

Probably your best video, guys. Not even joking

[@errol1967]

You both do a great job on YT and deserve a big medal for determination. You both are two beautiful people with compassion for photograpy and I hope you will continue here. Much love from The Netherlands

[@bingbong4848]

A few select channels have mentored me through my formative years in photo/video. This being one of them. Tony you're the greatest silver fox geeky pro. Chelsea, you're never not beautiful and funny and the life and soul of the channel. Thanks for the journey. Even the days when you shot everything at Toneh 1.2 were fun 😅 When you do eventually stop, be sure to do a 'Why I Quit' video. Most of us will care. Ignore the haters.

[@user-nj3pn1ds1u]

Truly enjoy your videos and information. Will always follow as long as the two of you are around. I like the way you present the information and never talk down to your viewers. Keep the faith and keep true to yourselves.

[@straighterline]

Pretty cool that you can be vulnerable knowing about all the vipers waiting to strike. Please keep up the good work. I enjoy your channel.

[@deweyforever]

Love you guy! Thanks for sharing this!♥♥♥

[@TheHamNinja]

Nice vid. Post production is hard for a one person show and I definitely get the burnout. Well done as usual. Chelsea providing genuine commentary with excellent support by Tony. The cuts to Chelsea only would be better if she were looking directly at the camera. Just me though. :) No hate here.

[@RMNgozi]

With all this talk about youtubers quitting. I hope you too don't quit cause I enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work Tony and Chelsea.

[@WilliamSheck]

I have watched you guys for many years and have always appreciated your honestly and informative insight.

[@flodv8_MeDroningOn]

Thanks for the honest commentary. I spent a good amount of time developing a sizeable channel that was monetized and growiing until after a couple of years a troll and friends got me three community strikeouts and I was taken out of monetization immediately with no recourse (but YT still ran ads on my content and earned revenue themselves)...I think the business on YT is potentially fragile, lacks being a true legacy and now they run long ads I hardly watch it anymore. Building well now on Mr Musk's portal...

[@TeddyRumble]

How can you make $$$ on TwitterX with the millions of folks posting???

[@MikeLikesChannel]

It's no different than a sitcom ending. You make the money you need, you end the show. But much more common is, "yeah there's no money on this platform."

[@RedTick2]

I so prefer to see in video sponsorship "ads" as opposed to the horrid google ad sense ads that always interrupt at the worst possible times. It's also nice when the creators really use and like the products they sponsor. I love the channel you guys have created!

[@chelseanorthrup8787]

Thanks!

[@michaelwebb4500]

You guys are my inspiration. I agree with you and your position on having a life and work. I for one have a hard time believing you guys have grown daughter and are maturing as you are. You guys look to be much younger. You have a great combination Chelsea art direction and Tony with the technical side. You are a great team and I am more impressed now knowing you are real people.

[@Omey731]

I learned everything I know about photography from your book "Stunning Digital Photography" several years ago and joined the facebook group when it only had a handful of members! your content is great and good quality and I hope you stay here for a long time :)

[@yavuzc927]

Don’t quit. We love you.

[@chrishyde7798]

Thank you for your videos and creative content. Your work and professionalism shines through.

[@jasonssimon]

I for one enjoy your videos and content, and appreciate your content, so please keep going.