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On the Fringe of the French Empire: Fort de Chartres

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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

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@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Several have mentioned that I both confused and mispronounced the Sainte-Marie Sault where Jacques Cartier thought he was near China. The rapids he ran into were near Montreal, not Michigan. Apparently I was as lost as he was. I apologize for the error. To be clear though- he was a long way from China. Some have asked about the success of John Law’s financing scheme. In brief, he oversold shares and created one of the world’s first real-estate bubbles. The bubble collapsed and he was forced to flee France.
@marknesselhaus4376
@marknesselhaus4376 4 жыл бұрын
That's OK, I knew what you were getting at :-) I learn so much from this channel at my retired age ;-)
@peregrine3695
@peregrine3695 4 жыл бұрын
The rapids are called Lachine, which was in some ways even worse, implying China..... and the name Cattier is pronounced Car-Shay..... just sayin'
@garysanning3208
@garysanning3208 4 жыл бұрын
LoL
@sammyseguin2978
@sammyseguin2978 4 жыл бұрын
Lachine, apparently from the French term la Chine (China), is often said to have been named in 1667, in mockery of its then owner René-Robert Cavelier de La Salle, who explored the interior of North America trying to find a passage to China. When he returned without success, he and his men were derisively named les Chinois (the Chinese). The name was adopted when the parish of Saints-Anges-de-la-Chine was created in 1676, with the form Lachine appearing with the opening of a post office in 1829. An alternative etymology attributes the name to the famous French explorer Samuel de Champlain, who also hoped to find a passage from the Saint Lawrence River to China. According to this version, in 1618 Champlain proposed that a customs house would tax the trade goods from China passing this point, hence the name Lachine.
@djolley61
@djolley61 4 жыл бұрын
There ARE rapids at Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, on the St. Mary's River that connects Lake Superior and Lake Huron (and indirectly Lake Michigan) making it necessary to for the Soo Locks to be built to facilitate navigation between the two lakes. Watching the lake boats transit the locks is like watching a sky scraper move horizontally down a street. :)
@dirtcop11
@dirtcop11 4 жыл бұрын
The fort was never captured...by men, but the Mighty Mississippi took it down. I lived less than a mile from the Mississippi for the first 9 years of my life. As a small boy in 1958, I watched as the water crept out of its banks and oozed ever closer to my hometown. I learned to respect, and fear, nature that year.
@JosephOlson-ld2td
@JosephOlson-ld2td 4 жыл бұрын
"Rising Tide" by John M Barry > 150 years of Army Corp of Engineers failures on the Mississippi
@Cory_Springer
@Cory_Springer 4 жыл бұрын
I've walked across the rocks left side Lake Itasca, the Mississippi on the right. Rivers are wild creature.
@114927jarka
@114927jarka 4 жыл бұрын
I love how much you cover illinois history! Thank you for telling people that illinois isnt just Chicago and corn!
@sarahd2800
@sarahd2800 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@09smitel
@09smitel 4 жыл бұрын
As one of the reenactors portraying a French Marine at Fort de Chartres (FYI my unit, including myself, is pictured multiple times in this video and the thumbnail) this is perhaps the most in depth, not to mention up-to-date, description of the fort’s history that I’ve seen in a long time; and I thank you deeply for it. However, I’d like to point out a potential reason as to why the fort is located where it is. The French settlements located in the Mid-Mississippi River Valley constituted the only cluster of European settlements between Canada and the Gulf Coast. Fort de Chartres was strategically located at a sort-of halfway point between the fore-mentioned regions. As well, just for the sake of mentioning, the soldiers garrisoned at the fort were Marines. Since the French navy was placed in charge of colonial security. French colonial troops in North America were classified as Marines. Army regiments would not appear in Canada until the beginning of the French and Indian War.
@Ammo08
@Ammo08 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Southeast Missouri, there are so many places close by with French and Spanish names. Up north of us is Ste. Genevieve, MO. From Cape Girardeau to the north you can definitely see the French influence in names.
@fload46d
@fload46d 4 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup, Monsieur Doctor!! One minor note, les voyageurs did not always marry with native women. They were usually very busy during their virile years in going about hauling freight in the canots. Les courreurs du bois were the ones who usually "married" native women.
@DomTV2010
@DomTV2010 4 жыл бұрын
A couple of my ancestors resided at Fort de Chartres. One of them was a physician - Dr. Rene Roy, whose descendants reside in Louisiana. Most of my French ancestors would arrive in New Orleans and eventually settle in what is now Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana.
@benn454
@benn454 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up less than 5 miles from Fort de Chartres. I remember the curtain wall being rebuilt and playing in the foundations of the original buildings, which were nearly buried by over two centuries such that they were hardly higher than a single step. They have since been dug out and rebuilt. I remember going to the Rendezvous every year and seeing all the reenacters and making paper kites and dipping wax to make candles. I moved away after the Great Flood of 93 and haven't been back since. This brings back a lot of childhood memories and makes me want to go back to see how it's doing today. Thanks, History Guy.
@Silkstep
@Silkstep 4 жыл бұрын
I live about a 30 minute drive from the fort, and enjoy many of the rendezvous held there each year. Artisans, food and drink, and history that will excite you as it comes alive. Worth checking out.
@matthewanderson4593
@matthewanderson4593 4 жыл бұрын
Sassafras root beer and good times. I live in Belleville and try to get to the rendezvous every year. Its a bummer they didn't have one this year.
@charlesweber4419
@charlesweber4419 4 жыл бұрын
As a French and Indian war reenactor and 20+ year living historian, thank you for this one.
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE 4 жыл бұрын
What I appreciate most about you is how you are genuine about history deserving to be remembered, it cannot be overstated in its importance. You do everyone a great service by keeping obscure history alive and spreading it more. And for that, I salute you.
@bucheronix
@bucheronix 4 жыл бұрын
In the 17th and 18th centuries, the Canadiens (french-canadians) were everywhere in the Wild West, from Détroit to Les Dalles in Oregon, and down to the Rivière Canadienne in Texas. When Lewis & Clark arrived in Saint-Louis in 1804, they had to hire a french interpreter. Many Americans, when they get interested in genealogy, are surprized to find french ancestors in their family tree.
@writerconsidered
@writerconsidered 4 жыл бұрын
Not in New England, we know our Canadian French ancestry.
@ryandavis7593
@ryandavis7593 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Scot, Irish, Native American and of course French. Dutch Welsh but no German. This is what happens when your family are among the first off the boat.
@chuckhainsworth4801
@chuckhainsworth4801 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like most of Canadian and Canadien history. They French traders were known as 'courier du bois' (poetically translated as 'runners of the woods') and it has become a rather popular surname. They formed families with Aboriginal women, and settled down to become Metis. A similar settlement pattern followed when the Hudson's Bay Company arrived on the scene, with their mostly Scottish workers.
@bucheronix
@bucheronix 4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckhainsworth4801 'Coureur des bois' ; not 'courier du bois' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coureur_des_bois
@mstewart3711
@mstewart3711 4 жыл бұрын
Live about 30 minutes from there in Chester, Illinois (Home of Popeye). Used to bring propane to the grounds keepers building. Glad you pronounce it correctly. Everyone around here calls it Fort Charters. Its very well kept and they even found a foundation of an even OLDER fort nearby.
@henrycomputer1403
@henrycomputer1403 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@krispeterson1021
@krispeterson1021 4 жыл бұрын
Might of been set up to fight the Giants
@16v15
@16v15 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the midwest. Butchery of French nomenclature is standard equipment.
@benn454
@benn454 4 жыл бұрын
@@16v15 German, too.
@Mitch62918
@Mitch62918 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up east of Carbondale, IL and we called it Fort Charters. Also, Prairie Du Rocher, we added the "R" to the end. BTW.. the town of Cairo, where the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers meet is pronounced Karo, like the syrup.
@mbrant4973
@mbrant4973 4 жыл бұрын
Although I have a general knowledge of history, I love these videos because they provide insight into the details of certain historical events I would have never thought even remotely interesting....until now.
@petchy9088
@petchy9088 3 жыл бұрын
Well they are full of shit. Everything you herd is bullshit. That was a star fort and it much old than 300 years. Think suppressed technology, and look it up.
@aarondesrochers3890
@aarondesrochers3890 4 жыл бұрын
I'm descended from Missouri French, and can assure you that relations between the French and Native Americans were extremely friendly. My DNA test revealed a significant percentage of Native American DNA in me.
@FOR_THE_Pascal.
@FOR_THE_Pascal. 4 жыл бұрын
Nice man @ De la Roche. Upper Louisiana fed most of New Orleans back then. I didn't even now you existed up until a year ago. I'm a Franco-ontarien !
@johndesherlia264
@johndesherlia264 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron, likewise, I am a direct descendant of a French Canadian Family who came down from A town by the name of Louiseville which is near Trois-Rivieres, halfway between Quebec City and Montreal. they settled first near Florissant here in the Saint Louis area, then around 1826, moved across the River to what is now Calhoun County where they settled. My 3X Great Uncle even married a Kaskaskia Indian woman and also involved in the fur trade. My 3X Grandfather also married 3x - 1/ Died & buried in Florissant. 2/ Married a Lady from Vincennes. 3X married a local French woman from Saint Louis. And that is just the beginning.
@orwellboy1958
@orwellboy1958 4 жыл бұрын
My monday afternoon appointment with the History Guy.
@garretvaughn7936
@garretvaughn7936 4 жыл бұрын
Amidst all the Covid-19 and rioting that dominates the news feeds and social media, your content is a welcome break and a breath of fresh air! Thank you, sir, for what you do to help raise humanity up during these trying times!
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 4 жыл бұрын
"Pirates and Cannibals" A future shirt perhaps?
@TheHerbdude
@TheHerbdude 4 жыл бұрын
Cannibal Pirates. They steal your booty and then they eat it.
@billrentz
@billrentz 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHerbdude Next episode: The History of the Rump Roast.
@robertbergren8680
@robertbergren8680 3 жыл бұрын
It better be a puffy shirt.
@davidmeyer3795
@davidmeyer3795 4 жыл бұрын
I remember playing down there all the time as a kid. It was so cool to run around the old fort
@benn454
@benn454 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Lived about 5 miles down Stringtown Rd from it.
@grammeb719
@grammeb719 4 жыл бұрын
My sons and then my granddaughters played there all the time. Military and then Princesses.
@baileybrunson42
@baileybrunson42 4 жыл бұрын
You should come to Alabama and visit Ft. Toulouse at Wetumpka.. it was De Chartres little brother on the Eastern border of French Louisiana (c.1715-1763). Hope to see you there soon..!
@spuwho
@spuwho 3 жыл бұрын
I was not aware of Ft Toulouse. Thanks for sharing this.
@chrissanders541
@chrissanders541 4 жыл бұрын
we have Bald Knob Cemetery up here in Boone County Arkansas it has French & Spanish Graves dating back to the late 1600's. now i haven't been up there sense i was ah teenager but it was a cool place to go see growing up. it's on the boarder of Newton Co. & Boone Co. up on a hill overlooking Clear Creek in the middle of a farmers field. This is a photo looking west towards the Boat Mountain arkansasgravestones.org/view.php?id=68511
@denknugz87
@denknugz87 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing this
@matthewanderson4593
@matthewanderson4593 4 жыл бұрын
There's a Bald Knob in Illinois also. It has a giant cross on it.
@FOR_THE_Pascal.
@FOR_THE_Pascal. 4 жыл бұрын
As a french Canadian I can't get enough of this forgotten history. There's probably still old folks who speak French around the Ozark mines in Missouri.
@ritaclark591
@ritaclark591 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you, Sir are as far as I know the first U. S. citizen to admit there was history in North America before the U. S. revolution. The French went on to contribute a great deal to North American history, from the Canadian Province of Quebec to Cadillac and Chevrolet among others whose names are attached to U. S. items in daily use and the founding of important U.S. cities like Detroit and New Orleans. This continent was explored and claimed by the French, the British and the Spanish and others who worked with or against the native people in this land and your recognition of it is history that deserves to be remembered!
@13Photodog
@13Photodog 4 жыл бұрын
WOW did this catch my eye. The first rendezvous was held in 1970 after being promoted by Joe Akers editor of the Randolph County Herald Tribune, published in Chester. I was a part-time photographer for the weekly paper while attending college about 10 miles north of your home base. As I recall I spent 3 days out there photographing everything that moved. One of the final events then was a canoe race on the Mississippi river from the fort to Kaskaskia. Which was the first state capitol of Illinois and now is west of the river. Joe secured places for himself and me in these 24ft long canoes. Luckily I was in the winning canoe. Joe was in the last place canoe and was told to put his camera down and pick up a paddle. The paper then published an 8 page supplement covering the events with all the photos printed in duo-tone to simulate old sepia color. That was a neat trick as the paper did not have a color press.
@hyfy-tr2jy
@hyfy-tr2jy 4 жыл бұрын
THG....i must say a huge THANKS for keeping your community feeling like they are "insiders" by maintaining the "pirate" commentaries
@WaltzingAustralia
@WaltzingAustralia 4 жыл бұрын
And once again you succeed in reminding us how much stranger and more wonderful history is than what we ever learn in school -- you couldn't make up something like a Scotsman being the French authority in Arkansas. Lovely.
@rivierstad3817
@rivierstad3817 4 жыл бұрын
I remember going there on several occasions on field trips. Growing up in nearby Belleville there was a lot of history to explore. Thanks History Guy for this episode.
@bigal7454
@bigal7454 4 жыл бұрын
I love visiting there! Might I suggest you do a future episode on Tecumseh or Lewis Wetzel and their adventures in the Ohio River Valley. Also an episode about Captain Brady's leap over the Cuyahoga River would be greatly appreciated. His life should be made into a movie. Keep up your incredible work!
@randyrick8019
@randyrick8019 4 жыл бұрын
As a childhood avid reader, I found Zane Grey's books to be captivating. And Wetzel remains one of my favorite early frontier heroes to this day.
@patmancrowley8509
@patmancrowley8509 4 жыл бұрын
THG, My dad and step-mother introduced me to Fort de Chartres back in about 2006. It is a fascinating place to visit and imagine what life was like in and around those walls. Thanks for an interesting episode.
@bobberceli6874
@bobberceli6874 4 жыл бұрын
History Guy, fascinating. Will share. Thanks for your time and efforts. An old gray grizzled Sourdough in Remote AK, Bob.
@kenthawley5990
@kenthawley5990 4 жыл бұрын
I love when you do these regional pieces, and I love when pieces about how things begin. Fort de Chartres is definitely History That Needs to Be Remembered.
@pagamenews
@pagamenews 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is pure gold. I spent 12 years being educated in the public school system and another 4 years in college...and this is history that was never taught in the classrooms or textbooks. School districts with their multi-million dollar budgets don't do this good of a job of "educating" Just saying.
@Jedikun
@Jedikun 4 жыл бұрын
Love that a lot of the history you cover comes out of the interior of the US. So many historians and KZbin channels ignore the AMerican Heartland
@waynevreeland3141
@waynevreeland3141 4 жыл бұрын
Even they call it "flyover country"
@dancingwiththedarkness3352
@dancingwiththedarkness3352 4 жыл бұрын
Pirate/cannibals make you walk the plank into the deep fryer.
@ezragonzalez8936
@ezragonzalez8936 4 жыл бұрын
The story of George Westinghouse next History Guy!! He was probably the only genuinely good hearted industrialist and inventor of the early 19th century a genius thatt is overlooked unfairly a overshadow by Edison whose. Character was dubious at best .. thank you for shining a light into stories long obscured by time!!!
@f3xpmartian
@f3xpmartian 4 жыл бұрын
"Release men from prison, on the promise that they would marry a prostitute and move to Louisiana." 1. Did any take that offer? 2. Wonder if Elon Musk will have to do similar methods to get people to go to Mars... 😉
@The105ODST
@The105ODST 4 жыл бұрын
New Orleans never changed.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 4 жыл бұрын
1. Did any bloody DENY that offer? 2. Why would he? People are almost running his doors in NOW before anything actually COULD happen. If he takes 5 million per one way ticket there still will be a waiting list and they can pick just the cream of the physically and mentally fit applicants and will have leftovers... People would upend their whole existenceon earth for that chance and with only a few hundred or maybe couple of thousand slots you can bet it will be more than enough to just take applications.
@arachnonixon
@arachnonixon 4 жыл бұрын
what little I know about about conditions in French prisons at that time, I'd take that deal in a heartbeat
@ChiefMiddleFinger
@ChiefMiddleFinger 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the laugh....I needed that !
@michaelporzio7384
@michaelporzio7384 4 жыл бұрын
A wife with a profession and a steady income was rare in those days.
@racerxfile
@racerxfile 4 жыл бұрын
My father took me here in the late 1970s...and I chaperoned my daughter's field trip to the fort some 30 years later. It's a fascinating drive, down off the bluff and onto the flat flood plain on a small county blacktop that seems to be taking you the "long way" to get there. I need to go back soon.
@technosaurus3805
@technosaurus3805 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Southern Illinois and your videos like this one help me remember my history long after I have moved to greener pastures. Thanks for keeping it alive.
@railgap
@railgap 4 жыл бұрын
I did historical re-enactment (for the public) at Fort de Chartres when I was a kid in the 70s; it was a major annual "rendezvous" event and a really good time for the re-enactors.
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 4 жыл бұрын
This is a KZbin channel. That deserves, to be remembered.
@thomaswilson517
@thomaswilson517 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the trip downriver to Randolph County where Illinois began. Good to hear the recounting of my boyhood playground and where I first got the taste of Rondezvous fifty years ago. Family all around there .net
@michaelpeters2490
@michaelpeters2490 4 жыл бұрын
I was born in northern Illinois and spent the first 40 years of my life in Illinois, Wisconsin,Minnesota, and that surrounding area and I've learned a great deal about that region from the history guy. Thank you so much for the education!!!
@southilgurl2003
@southilgurl2003 4 жыл бұрын
Loved going through the fort!
@stevedietrich8936
@stevedietrich8936 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video.
@henrycomputer1403
@henrycomputer1403 4 жыл бұрын
Was down there the other day. It's a nice ride along the bluff road. And Lisa's has the best food. There is also a nice bed and breakfast with some really nice old woodwork
@benn454
@benn454 4 жыл бұрын
Used to go down to Lisa's about once a week when I last lived in the area about 20 years ago. Glad to hear things haven't changed.
@jimp6542
@jimp6542 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching each little snippet of history you present here. I like history in general.
@scobbydoo773
@scobbydoo773 4 жыл бұрын
I have asked before and because of the anniversary, as well as the current conditions in the US, I find it fitting to ask you again about doing a video on the Tulsa Race Riot Of 1921.
@terryoneill9525
@terryoneill9525 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE MY HISTORY STORYS THANK YOU FROM THE UK
@soulscanner66
@soulscanner66 4 жыл бұрын
2:12 Cartier planted the cross on the Baie des Chaleurs while he was exploring the Gulf of Saint Lawrence. He made it up the Saint Lawrence River to rapids near Montreal that he named the Lachine Rapids, which means China rapids.
@HweolRidda
@HweolRidda 4 жыл бұрын
That is to say, he never got close to the Sault Ste Marie (St Marie Rapids).
@darianrose2195
@darianrose2195 4 жыл бұрын
It's loaded with history, a special place for the area and locals are protective of it. The annual Rendezvous is wonderful and if you have $200, you can get married there. My family had attended the Rendezvous for years and my husband's family has been in the activities since his grandparents started. We couldn't believe how lucky we were to have our wedding at a historic sight and barely needed decorations, the old stones do the work for you. Side note, the geography around the fort grounds has changed quite a bit over the centuries. It's location made more sense when a waterway was much closer. In the museum they have a series of maps showing the gradual changes.
@cav1stlt922
@cav1stlt922 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, after re-watching the video, I suddenly realized the photo at 12:25 was that of Mr. & Mrs. History Guy! What a merry couple you two were!
@Marimilitarybrat
@Marimilitarybrat 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy The History Guy. Very creative. So well done.
@silascochran9705
@silascochran9705 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy every episode breakfast with the history guy part of my daily routine Horace Devore is still one of my favorites🤠🐕🌈🌄🦅🇺🇸⚓
@tango6nf477
@tango6nf477 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is great that you have preserved such a piece of your history. over the years we taken ancient buildings for granted to the point that we have allowed countless to be demolished to make way for car parks, supermarkets and the like. Sadly we have still not learned and continue to do so ignoring the words of the song "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?" Janis Joplin, Big yellow taxi. If only this could be history that is remembered!
@seathrunmagaoinghous4119
@seathrunmagaoinghous4119 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is my family history.
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 жыл бұрын
One measure of a success of a castle is not whether it survives an assault, but whether the enemy decides to risk it.
@Chaos8282
@Chaos8282 4 жыл бұрын
Should be there dressed up and camping this weekend, cancelled due to the lockdown sadly. Maybe you can do Fort Massac next. Was married there, to the English Captain who was leading the grenadiers daughter, in the pics of this video lol
@kimpolansky8780
@kimpolansky8780 4 жыл бұрын
Been there. Absolutely fascinating.
@brucemoore1339
@brucemoore1339 4 жыл бұрын
Right, Canadian guy here. So it's Sault(soo) Saint Marie, and a voyageur was someone of French origin who transported furs by canoe. The children of French and Scottish fur traders and aboriginal women are Metis(may tee), one of three recognized indigenous peoples of Canada.
@wanderingator
@wanderingator 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Chester about thirty miles south, the county seat. Fort de Chartres is very much part of the French-influenced culture of the region. You might want to do an episode on the Pierre Menard Home, an existing example of French colonial culture a few miles north of Chester. Pierre Menard was the first Lt. Gov. of Illinois.
@wanderingator
@wanderingator 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, this is her husband Mike who grew up in Chester. Nann is a Gator from Florida.
@kenrank8489
@kenrank8489 4 жыл бұрын
Family of Godier settled Kaskaskia in 1703 and here in 2020 my lineage through my father can lay claim too the French heritage both being French with Luis Rank . Luis Rank came from France thru the port of New Orleans in 1846 and settling in Alton , Illinois.
@BilbusWilbury
@BilbusWilbury 2 жыл бұрын
Just visited this place yesterday. My three year old had a blast climbing up the watch tower and generally running amuck. It's great to know a little of the history of the old fort. We also recently visited Fort Massac which was also nice but sadly the buildings remain locked up for safety concerns.
@tloller52
@tloller52 4 жыл бұрын
I used to really enjoy going to the rendezvous there every year. It was a big one, with lots of people and lots of traders. Great fun! I miss it.
@paulwallis7586
@paulwallis7586 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain had a lot to say on how the Mississippi moves around. Limestone, however, is pretty good, and it's chemically resistant to various types of deterioration. Good to see.
@patrickdunster1083
@patrickdunster1083 4 жыл бұрын
I was stationed at Scott AFB for a few years and never heard of this fort or any French settlements for that matter. It does seem like it’d be a really good reason to take my boys get out there and visit. Speaking of The Seven Years War and French/Indian War, have you and Mrs. History visited Fort William Henry and/or Fort Ticonderoga? You’ll love it!
@Brian-bp5pe
@Brian-bp5pe 4 жыл бұрын
Le plus intéressant, Guy d'Histoire!
@whoareyou1034
@whoareyou1034 4 жыл бұрын
Piece of History: *has pirates & cannibals* The History Guy: "Its free real estate!"
@lewisharty8801
@lewisharty8801 4 жыл бұрын
Magnificent video! I am tickled that you worked in pirates! I have been to the Rendezvous there at Fort DeChartres twice. I first saw the Fort in 1992, not long after Illinois rebuilt part of the walls. That area is beautiful country. It is not far from current location of Kaskaskia which was the to be the first capital of the State of Illinois.
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Monday! Outstanding content, thank you.
@marvindoolin1340
@marvindoolin1340 4 жыл бұрын
I was thrilled to find this in your channel. Until I was nine, my family lived in the mostly German village with a French name, Renault, a few miles up the bluff from the old fort. It was a frequent location for Sunday School picnics. Renault and Fort Chartres, by the way, as well as "Rocher" were not pronounced in any way similar to the French pronunciations. Shortly after WWII the Core of Engineers built a levy that protects "Rocher" and Ft. Chartres, as well as many square miles of farm land in the fertile valley.
@spartygreen2550
@spartygreen2550 4 жыл бұрын
Born and raised in IL and have never heard about this place. Thank you!
@williambabbitt7602
@williambabbitt7602 Жыл бұрын
Nice picture of those two tours to look remarkably familiar! Thank you.
@michaelhawthorne8696
@michaelhawthorne8696 4 жыл бұрын
5:51 Wow... Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne De Bienville... Does he not look the spitten image of Dr Zachary Smith (Johnathan Harris) from the TV series 'Lost in space' 'Oh the pain'
@mikeakers2043
@mikeakers2043 4 жыл бұрын
i live in ST Louis,i have never heard of this place.the wife and i will have to take a day trip very soon to see it. thank you for this and all your videos.always very enjoyable
@seanjoseph8637
@seanjoseph8637 4 жыл бұрын
The Scots and the French were always close because of their "rivalry" with the English.
@denknugz87
@denknugz87 4 жыл бұрын
Auld Alliance
@seanjoseph8637
@seanjoseph8637 4 жыл бұрын
@djrmarky Proof please...
@comm2531
@comm2531 4 жыл бұрын
Killing me with that "nothing gets more interesting than PIRATES" That I've seen in several postings by the history guy. I get a good chuckle on that. What a product this guy puts out. Excellent stuff.
@jamestrueblood1990
@jamestrueblood1990 5 ай бұрын
I’m part French American Illinoisan my ancestors have been here for a very long time since Illinois was part of New France
@howardjohnson2138
@howardjohnson2138 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating - Thank you
@spuwho
@spuwho 4 жыл бұрын
It was strategic for several reasons. It sat at the confluence of the Mississippi and Kaskaskia Rivers. It kept British aligned Iroquois from encroaching on New France from the north (see the history of the "Fighting Illini"). It allowed expedient communication with the Illini using the Kaskaskia River. It protected French commercial mining interests across the river in Missouri. It was also a certain distance from the French fort in Memphis. The French had planned for additional fortifications to be built up the Illinois River all the way to the Des Plaines. Because the French government extended from Kaskaskia, the first capital of Illinois was also established here until moving to Vandalia (where the national road to St Louis crossed the Kaskaskia River as well) and then Springfield. One has to remember than when Illinois became a territory most of it's GDP was in the southern end of the state. Today it's mostly centered around Chicago. That is why people get the baffled "it's not near anything" remarks. Today it's farmland. Back then it was the formal extension of the French government.
@wetbobspongepants
@wetbobspongepants 4 жыл бұрын
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. Yet, those of us who do study history are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it!
@tylerfoss3346
@tylerfoss3346 4 жыл бұрын
Great job again, HG. Thank you for starting to fill in a largely empty portion of US history, that history driven by France in the 1600s and the 1700s.
@briangarrow448
@briangarrow448 4 жыл бұрын
And who says there's no style in Arkansas? A Scottish French Duke is about as stylish as they come.
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 4 жыл бұрын
hmm Deep fat fried escargot with a Iron Bru to top it off.
@agentm83
@agentm83 4 жыл бұрын
People forget there is a long history between Scotland and France. The Auld Alliance.
@jst7714
@jst7714 4 жыл бұрын
I dunno, they have Dillard's Department Store too
@TSemasFl
@TSemasFl 4 жыл бұрын
@@agentm83 Don't go there, that history is kept for the enlightened.
@waynevreeland3141
@waynevreeland3141 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that high falootin' title might cut a rug in Memphis, but could the old boy spit a melon seed worth a damn?
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 4 жыл бұрын
"Only about 700 Europeans in all of New France" That must have been an awesome time!
@stevejohnson1685
@stevejohnson1685 4 жыл бұрын
This is great - nice to learn more about the "blank" Illinois side of the Mississippi south of St. Louis. Would you consider doing a segment on Cave-in-Rock, along the Ohio River, famous for its pirate hideout?
@patrickduley405
@patrickduley405 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful show today. 🇫🇷
@tmr3513
@tmr3513 4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if anyone has commented it since I haven't read the previous comments but Kaskaskia, Illinois is orphaned now from the rest of the state. The Mississippi river altered its course and that area where the village location is now sits on the west side of the river completely surrounded on three sides by the state of Missouri. Not many people live there.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 4 жыл бұрын
We might do an episode on it. Kaskaskia is in a unique position...
@johndesherlia264
@johndesherlia264 4 жыл бұрын
13 or 14 people actually live in the Village, but on the Island, there's about 30 or so people who live on the Island.
@ALTruckerDad
@ALTruckerDad 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Mobile, AL, (named after the region, and tribe of Mauvilla) actually has moved from it's original location. The old site is referring to as 7 mile bluff, and/or Old Mobile. There was a devastating flood that precipitated the relocation.
@WHix-om4yo
@WHix-om4yo 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Founded in 1701 and moved in 1711. Lesson: don't build your settlement on a low lying place on a river. Yellow fever really sucks. Cheers!
@ALTruckerDad
@ALTruckerDad 4 жыл бұрын
@@WHix-om4yo yep, Mobile was actually .. mobile. At least once. :) Mobile relocated. New Orleans doubled down.....
@charlesprokopp276
@charlesprokopp276 4 жыл бұрын
In the Mid-Seventies, I participated in rendezvous at the fort, braving the steaming climate and man-eating mosquitoes. Whenever I revisit Illinois, I always stop by to see the progress in restoration.
@assessor1276
@assessor1276 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another excellent tale of times past HG!
@DJako89
@DJako89 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this bit of local (for me) history. Another interesting bit of this local history is the murder of Chief Pontiac in Cahokia. The native murderers, paid by the British, were tracked to northern IL and trapped on what is now known as "Starved Rock State Park". There are other interesting early American local stories in a book by Carl Baldwin called "Echoes of Their Voices". Thank you for your videos they are very enjoyable.
@mercator79
@mercator79 4 жыл бұрын
I think I was more blown away by the Scottish man who was the French Duc d'Arkansas than even by the French strategy to colonize the Louisiana territory with prisoners and prozzies. Great history lesson as usual! Merci beaucoups.
@CharlesinGA
@CharlesinGA 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, enjoyed it. I have been wanting to visit the area, Southern Illinois is Rich in early history and Native American history. The next time you are in the area, be sure and take the ferry across the Mississippi from Ste. Genevieve, MO, to Prairie du Rocher.
@douglasleedy
@douglasleedy 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. We visited the fort while I was stationed at Scott AFB back in 2010. I remember reading about it, but still couldn't figure out what the hell it was doing out there. YOU explained it VERY well. Thank you! Love the videos...keep posting!
@xvsj-s2x
@xvsj-s2x 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for sharing THG 😉🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@RagingMoon1987
@RagingMoon1987 4 жыл бұрын
Love Fort de Chartres! My family used to go on day trips there, and it's amazing.
@patrickrose1221
@patrickrose1221 4 жыл бұрын
During ww2 my great grandfather was working at the very secret Rolls Royce research establishment in Hucknall - Nottinghamshire at the same time as Franz Von Werra ( a German pow ) tried to steal a Hurricane parked up ready to go, before he was forced to climb out at the end of a pistol barrel. Good film too. Many thanks for all of your amazing stories, peace x
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 4 жыл бұрын
The Duke of Arkansas- nearly as unlikely as the Duke of Earl!
@dirtcop11
@dirtcop11 4 жыл бұрын
Or, "How a Scotsman became a French Duke of Arkansas." It sounds like a satirical story, but it is true.
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 4 жыл бұрын
@@dirtcop11 I don't suppose anybody will celebrate this with song- unlike that old Duke of Earl! "Nothing can stop the Duke of Earl..." kzbin.info/www/bejne/nme4madsbs1rf9U
@BlameThande
@BlameThande 4 жыл бұрын
Metternich was once made the Duke of Texas by the King of Spain - which was almost meaningless at the time as Mexico was already practically independent.
@mr.k7457
@mr.k7457 4 жыл бұрын
Or Duke of Nukem
@robertjackson9601
@robertjackson9601 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent story. Thank you. Really enjoy your videos.
@danielt.3152
@danielt.3152 4 жыл бұрын
Good job on this. As you point out, it is remote even today very accurate. I went to several re-enactments rendezvous there. Very cool place. If you ever get a chance to canoe the Mississippi or Illinois river do it.
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt 4 жыл бұрын
thanks
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