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[@tyrantz1424]

Blizzard: "We're removing hard counters" Also Blizzard: *buffs Hammond's counters

[@maxmoch6044]

and not doing anything to make ball playaball lol

[@Ahilliard44]

Every new hero that comes out has some type of skill that somehow is strong against ball. Nap got his jump, echo got her beam, Miri her suzu, weaver pull etc etc etc. it’s like a check list they have, almost like they gauge their new characters on how well they can survive or kill a ball

[@hippiethehypocrite107]

Pretend to be bad to give ball a bad rep, and blizzard will be tricked into buffing ball

[@Jvizzlezz]

tricked?

[@leonardoobrandi]

Chazm is the reason they don't buff ball

[@Owenisapro363]

You just noticed lol

[@FrankTheTank107]

Doom got a buff even though ZBRA ranks higher than chazm this season

[@andranikpapazyan3150]

@@FrankTheTank107doom also got nerfed like right before the buff, if anything, they were targeting do to get nerfed more than ball. The only reason he got that buff is cuz his ult is basically useless

[@rousinggibbon3428]

Yep chazm faq , stop playing for season, may be they will notice that ball character exist, and it need buff against new doom and mauga

[@messikis9828]

Just like when they nerfed zen cuz of jjonak lol

[@massive733]

It sucks the amount of effort Ball has to do in order to do what several other heroes can *undo* in one button press. Let alone the ones that can do it a lot more effectively PS. Bring back Adaptive Shields not giving Ult Charge

[@dankelmo8732]

I don't think overhealth gives ult charge

[@defragsbin]

Bliz have basically powercrept CC and heals, so now they're in a tough spot. Their solution seems to be more damage to cut through the heals. Hmm! Where have we heard this before? We're stuck in groundhog day. They generally seem to struggle with designing heroes to work together. We lost 6v6 because they couldn't balance 2 tanks working together (a year of GOATS, a year of double shield etc.) and now we've got situations where Ball is an uphill struggle because: A) Ball doesn't do enough damage to burst through the absurd zero-aim supports & multiple get-out-of-jail cards (lamp/tp/suzu/pull/petal/etc). Ball only feels 'fraggy' when he's got a Mercy boost (... rare) or a nano. Then he feels scary. Most of the time you feel like a clown occupying the enemy team's attention. B) Ball gets absolutely obliterated by layered CC. You can literally get hacked, then slept, then a junk throws trap which gets you as you wake up (which shouldn't be a thing), then hooked ... etc. C) There's limited synergy & no peel for him, because supports can't follow him. This means your supports get limited value with a Ball, other than the odd LW pull. If Kiri TPs in to save a Ball, she dies instead. With all other tanks save for perhaps Winston (who is nearly always paired with an Ana), the supports get much more easy value using their abilities on their tank when the need arises. D) He cannot displace tanks because of the knockback passive E) So many abilities just plain ruin your flow, even incidentally (e.g. seismic touches you, or a Rein hammer swing, or a random bodyblock, or Illari's shift hits you when she doesn't even see you) I've been saying for months that there's _more_ CC in this game compared to OW1. You just feel it way worse on Ball because Ball has zero mitigation.

[@_XRMissie]

Well said. What non-ball players don't understand is that soft CC is just as damning as hard CC. The amount of times I've lost all value because doom tickled me with slam, brig bashed me, mei barely touches me with primary, bodyblocked by the smallest hero (tracer), etc, is just uncountable. And that's not even considering the billion ways to completely shut down doom and ball with hard CC. People already crying that doom is getting a buff to his laughably shit ultimate. We're not allowed to play hyper-mobile heroes if the have even a crumb of skill expression. Gotta give everybody something to fuck *specifically us* over, because because high skill ceiling = bad according to bliz. Frustrating af. Edit: By value, I mean fireball. There's too many abilities that shut down ball's most important mechanic. Only reason we play like rats (hit & run) is because of garbage like that. Like fireball even has any value anymore (esp booping) with all the "I win"/1 button counters. In fact, let's make a quick list of all the abilities that will completely negate the effectiveness of boops: tank knockback passive, coach, bash, roll, booster, slam, fly, dash, lunge, w/e illari's jump thing is called, conc, tp, wall climb, pull, wallride, GA, fade, fortify, jumpjet, wraith, slide, blink, recall, grapple, leap, grapple, bubble, and pull. Or what about all the other abilities that just stop or alter your momentum? Like sleep, (bastion) nade, whipshot, mag nade, slam, punch, knife, trap, (friendly lw) pull, (lucio) boop, wall, mei primary, literally anything orisa does, (phara) conc, vortex, pin, hammer swing, hook, pigpen, rock, hack and (ball) slam. And that's not even including the bloody ultimates. Tl;Dr: We ball (and to an extent, doom) mains are playing un ultra hardcore.

[@TheMightyBone]

Hell yea I loved seeing the Dev Blog come out and show all those juicy, tasty, squishy, round, amazing ball buffs.

[@glxxmy4244]

Where did you find it?

[@TheMightyBone]

Sorry that was a joke - the official blizzard website released a blog (search for blizzard blog season 8 and it should be on top.) In the blog they go over balance changes. There are 0 changes listed for ball. @@glxxmy4244

[@cloutan2746]

​@@glxxmy4244that's the neat part...

[@JoshSansom-g3x]

They didn’t mention ball buffs wdym?

[@ocurtamemes1477]

My fellow baller...

[@yamato4271]

Give ball an actual personal shield to block shots with for his adaptive shield rather than not. Every other tank has a way to block cc in the form of shielding. Those that don't doesn't care so much for being cc'd for a time. Hammond will get screwed over for his entire combo just by getting booped slightly to the side let alone a sleep dart or roadhog hook. His piledriver should also b cc immune like how you gonna play a literal wrecking ball and get tossed around like a wet tissue. It infuriates me.

[@eu-ilst]

🎯

[@joshuacopley2331]

Ana is a gigantic tumor on an otherwise fun tank experience

[@Wojtug]

You're not alone Chazm. Pretty much it every tank main is fed up with seeing ana. Sleep is the most powerful stun in the entire game and anti is straight up the most powerful ability. "Ohhoo boo hoo go kiriko" first of all, you can hardly ever suzu both sleep and anti at once, and there are like a hundred other things you need to suzu. Just nerf ana, nerf.her to the ground. I am so tired of this support getting the highest picks and getting pathetic nerfs and even buffs instead.

[@goatyqt4553]

Make Adaptive shield give him 50hp per enemy, but it gives immunity for 0.5s and if you cancel some ccs like sleep with that immunity, you get a 25% damage buff for the shield’s duration

[@floppy5537]

tuxedo thumbnail hammond is back 🔥

[@acoustic_sh33p49]

Gotta love how the best supports are counterpicks to ball and winton. Like what are dive tanks gonna do when the supports can stun, boop, sleep, anti, and block.

[@teelo523]

They should make anti harder to hit

[@summationx8376]

The reason they don't buff ball, because chamz has not been freed yet.

[@PandaC1aus]

Chazm makes me spazm

[@TheInfiniteZeal]

Hear me out, what if they replace Ana’s anti nade with a self heal ability (similar to bap) or a movement ability like widow to get her to high ground and change the anti heal to proc when she hits a target multiple times within a short window. That way she has to focus on getting the anti or healing and increases her min max skill ceiling if she tries to do both at once

[@reverendnon5959]

Nah, nice try, but it's a bad idea, most targets die after a few ana shots anyway and lowering damage is not a solution. And it will be really easy to ani the whole enemy team because shooting with ana is really easy. You spend just like 3 seconds getting an ani effect, and you are ready to heal again, or you can use bap tactic heal/shoot/heal/shoot. Your suggestion just buffed ana into the sky xD Movement ability just doesn't fit Ana's character and self heal would be too boring.

[@jonsnow9541]

that would be way too busted in neutral game, or it would just not be very useful since squishies die in like 3 shots. you would only ever anti tanks, which is already what happens anyway.

[@TheInfiniteZeal]

Hmm I’m seeing the counter argument. To fix the overwhelming anti aspect what if they made it a passive that’s on cooldown. So her anti can only proc every 30 seconds or so. That way it’s not entirely prevalent every fight.

[@jonsnow9541]

@@TheInfiniteZeal another alternative would be to have anti reduce healing effects by 80% instead of outright negating them.

[@TheInfiniteZeal]

@@jonsnow9541 I like this. I think Nader needs to be addressed tho. Because her combo is guaranteed death out side of forcing a team to use multiple cooldowns for one of her abilities that takes very little skill to create a terrible situation for the opposing team.

[@bread9840]

Ball is the only tank i genuinely feel bad dunking on as a sombra main. The hamster mains are trying so hard but theyre hero is just so damn bad compared to other tanks

[@neverascent]

"as a sombra main" you are in the wrong place bud. no one wants you here

[@JugsMcNasty]

Some of us like playing on hardcore mode lmao

[@Rose-85]

Chazm, huge fan Your the reason i started playing Ball, and i feel like im doing pretty good, been climbing through silver however i feel im in such a weird predicament Going solo queue tank feels like absolute misery as i can almost never get anything done even when i swap off ball Last time i played i went 0-5 But then when group up with people who also play dive, some of them actually using comms too My winrate skyrockets and now im stuck in Silver 1 At first i questioned if im being carried But then literally all of them say i a cracked Ball And both the enemy team and some of my friends accused me of being a Smurf Ball because apparently my movement is too good for Silver At this point idk what to think

[@goatyqt4553]

Getting boops isn’t everything, you gotta disturb the right people or boop them in the right direction. The problem with ball is that you can do good yourself but if you don’t give everything to your team so they can do stuff, they’ll make you lose every game

[@Rose-85]

@goatyqt4553 I'm constantly diving to try to get a pick but sometimes it's just really hard especially when your on your own Or i just misstime the engagement and eat every stun the enemy team has to offer

[@VYNYL_Music]

Have to say, I am also getting sick and tired of seeing Ana in every round I play, it honestly might be time to give some other supports some more time in the field than Ana because god forbid the amount of times I wanted to break something because Ana came to fuck it up. 2 abilities and both have more potential to change everything than the devs do in a year.

[@silentdc404]

I remember ml7 or some other support main one time talking about ana and saying something like “yea I just don’t want to see her ruined because she is one of the most fun and well designed supports” Shit I mean Winston is “well designed” does that mean he should have 1200 hp bubble and have 50 dmg punches?

[@maxmoch6044]

I think lucio is way better designed. They just like her bc she is an ez to learn character. Her nade is pretty much the same as CS Nades, her sleep is just a projectile that you need to land every 11s and BAM HARD CC BABY! You dont need much to learn her and her value is unmissable. Her nade gets value in every situation, her sleep is not hard to land against tanks and her nano is impossible to miss and gets value in every situation because it is doing everyting (dmg reduction, burst heal, dmg boost on autoaim with target selection) Thats why she got such a high pickrate. IMO thats not a well designed character. Its just a ez to understand character. @@silentdc404 And fun fact: Ana players are still "missing" Nanos bc they cant look around. Ana players could have infinet HP and they will still die. CHANGE MY MIND

[@king18888boss]

silky chazm it’s already been over for us

[@mental_bed4637]

Unranked to gm controller 🎉 Ball is what keeps me playing ow

[@Pam234]

That’d be way too easy if he’s in console lobbies. Also ball isn’t the most aim intensive hero.

[@eddiemorgan7290]

@@Pam234ball is heavily reliant on good aim tho, since his boop slam combo isn’t nearly as effective, ball mains need to have superb tracking or you find yourself needing to disengage or reload mid fight way too often

[@Pam234]

@@eddiemorgan7290 if a character can theoretically make it to gm without shooting then they don’t rely on their aim as much as other characters.

[@maxmoch6044]

do you mean AIM like on weapon? Its not that ez bc you need to aim on your cooldowns too. like boop reset from a wall with a specific angel. You need Aim for that. You still need aim even when you arent shooting@@Pam234

[@TwistedMetal32]

I think if Hammond hit box was lowered it would be the only buff he’d need. Or make adaptive shields aoe for teammates.

[@theonereborn1337]

They have actually done this once before. He was a lot larger when they first released ball. It was weird seeing him smaller for a while.

[@TwistedMetal32]

@@theonereborn1337 that was when there was 2 tanks tho. Time to do it again

[@theonereborn1337]

@@TwistedMetal32 stupid

[@tru3ascension778]

Ana's sleep dart is literally just as annoying if not more than Sombra's hack especially with Ball. I just said this yesterday while I was playing Ana and Sombra every match for 2 hours who only look to target me as a Ball main and no one else lmao it's so annoying.

[@timbarrett4580]

At least sleep dart can miss. It's kind of fun fucking with Ana players to make them miss their dart and then going ape on them. Sombra just holds right click until you need to reload

[@Jvizzlezz]

what gets to me is the insane, psychopathic, literally nonsensical hard counter switching when you play ball. like, ball isn't that great of a hero. he's not even "good". so why in the fuck does every game have to immediately get filled with sombras anas roadhogs bastions/reapers/lifeweaver/etc every single time i try to play him? i queue up for tank to have some good ol fashioned ball fun and immediately after wiping the enemy team once you just see EVERYONE rage swap to counter you and YOU alone. at that point, even if you win the game because they're all throwing chasing you all over the map, you don't even feel proud. like, the game wasn't fun, what exactly did you do? you wasted time for 30 minutes and now the game is over because everyone JUST HAD TO KILL YOU AT ALL COSTS. meanwhile i can play junker or zarya or mauga or orisa or w/e and people only SOMETIMES counterpick (against tanks that are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more effective)

[@tru3ascension778]

@@Jvizzlezz Agreed. Being a ball player capable of playing him correctly and effectively only brings counter swapping when his ceiling to learn him is so much harder to reach than characters that can dominate with ease that are easier to use with so much less of a ceiling to master them. It doesn’t make sense. Can’t wait for ball’s rework.

[@tru3ascension778]

@@timbarrett4580 it can only miss when you’re moving around, soon as you use piledriver it’s an instant sleep or a sombra hack then sleep. Ball has so many counters that can stop momentum as well, such as Brig’s shield bash and whip mace ability, dooms punch, sigmas rock, reins charge, lucios sonic boop, Maugas charge, it goes on and on. Why does a character that is already weaker than all tanks get countered by a lot of characters in the game?

[@tru3ascension778]

@@Jvizzlezz also he is already a weak tank so why let almost all other characters counter him too? It’s insane. Could literally run sombra, doom, Ana, Cassidy and Lucio and all of balls momentum is gone. Dooms punch, Ana’s sleep dart, sombras hack, Cassidy’s grenade, and sombras hack all stop momentum completely on grapple fireball and/or the piledriver. Could also run Brig to stop fireball momentum with both of her abilities, pharas sonic rocket, junkrat trap. It’s a huge list of counters all against a character that is already weak.

[@markflopresti]

why and how would they do that

[@juanperret7044]

reasons ball isn't getting buffed: this channel

[@su9cp]

Kraanflop

[@eljefe09]

I cant wait, ball is king.

[@allanlugo7842]

I started playing ball because well, is a hamster in a ball rolling over people and playing with the map, im still missing a few details but by far my best game i think has been 25-4-0 in silver 5, im still stuck there because rank apparently wants me there 😒

[@AllyMind5Star]

Good, we need him to be stronger.

[@TevinMachart-pc5wy]

Let’s all lose till they buff him

[@lonkbonk5859]

Or, we just don’t play ball at all, since all blizzard devs wanna do is change characters based on their pickrate

[@ruka9700]

They buffed Sombra for season 8. They buffed ball once and nobody but the ball players liked it so they reverted it.

[@solilacio]

What a nice game dude 🎉

[@Skreeee]

Will you buy crab skin when ball gets buffed?

[@ItzSpritz]

The problem with ball is one small buff and he’d be way too OP for those that main him. The only small buff I can see adding is instead of having shield health, they replace it with armor, considering he’s literally an armored ball. And it’d be a decent balance since it doesn’t replenish itself like his shield health, but the damage reduction would be nice. Edit: Also it doesn’t make sense that tanks are supposed to have knockback reduction but a brig can whip shot me almost 20 meters. And a doom can punch me so far off the map that my grapple hook won’t even reach the edge. A flaming wrecking ball can smack a measly 400 HP JQ and she goes no where but a brig can whip shot me as if I’m just another DPS. His physics are so busted it makes zero sense.

[@timbarrett4580]

imo he doesn't really need more surviability, he needs more damage potential. They should rework his adaptive shields to give him a short damage boost proportional to the amount of allies around. That way it doesn't break him when he dives, but he has enough damage to fight the enemy tank when he rotates back to his team.

[@yamato4271]

@@timbarrett4580 I would say he needs more reliability to land his abilities and avoid cc, so I would suggest they give him an actual shield around his body for his e so he can avoid hooks, ana sleep dart, and other projectiles. He would still get cc'd by other stuff like brig, junkrat, and rein to name a few. Even then and it would reduce the amount he would have to deal with in terms of cc overall.

[@silentdc404]

I hate adaptive shields. It is one dimensional and boring. It existing also means he can’t have more movement or dmg or tools for cc or anything else.

[@gamist8166]

He probs doesnt need more survivability for buff, he got a shit ton of that

[@JugsMcNasty]

Having all your momentum stolen simply by brushing shoulders with a tiny little tracer is death when momentum is your entire advantage. I get body blocked, unintentionally so much and its just bad physics. And habing the world's largest hitbox definitely doesn't help either.

[@TevinMachart-pc5wy]

Dude this character is impossible once I hit gm5 nothing dies and I just piss my team off so they throw

[@eu-ilst]

hopefully he gets more ammo

[@maxmoch6044]

no. more ways to counterplay cc

[@RoboFizz520]

Ball = stall hero

[@Hampteerr]

Insane

[@ihavevisionfearme]

Balance is thrown out the window because of the community bias for Ana. "she takes skill", "just bait out cds" my ass. Rework her nade to finally reduce healing rather than prevent it. And watch how they cry she's useless whilst still being in every game and having a huge impact.

[@abrasiontest6954]

Done come get me

[@allink5526]

Are you the strongest because you're chazm2? Or are you chazm2 because you're the strongest?

[@THECAMERON11]

Chazm: Nah I'd win

[@DFD3ADP00L]

"Rollin on For Rank 1'"

[@pandakai6422]

How does this have 2 million likes

[@discord-0494]

No ball buff for us, dude. Stop sope

[@QuarterbackTCG]

Your team not touching is so tilting just as an observer on KZbin

[@lightfox5397]

Start play orisa so they nerf her, talk about how weak is ball for all season so they buff it, they just doing everything so we can’t play ball

[@DolanAndGoobyFTW]

why do you waste piledrive at 1:12 after youve had enough time to see genji died and winston is too far away

[@JaronPalone]

To get on high ground asap

[@allink5526]

it was just to change what direction he was going

[@reverendnon5959]

Piledrive moves tou forward in the direction you are looking a little bit

[@DolanAndGoobyFTW]

@@allink5526 he already was going the direction of highground after he did the 180 wallbounce, the piledrive even has a delay which is slower than if he saved it and rolled up the stairs to highground. later he was in a room with ana and couldve done a walljump piledrive to secure a kill and maybe hold the first point longer, but he was on piledrive cooldown and subsequently lost the first point

[@DolanAndGoobyFTW]

@@JaronPalone I know it looks like it helps, but the moment he presses piledriver he loses all that horizontal velocity he had a few seconds ago, then he has to roll starting from 0 m/s from that edge of high ground to the other edge to see the fight. Look even though chazm paints himself as the best wrecking ball player in the world, he still makes mistakes. Stop glazing so hard. If he hadn't piledrived and rolled up the stairs, he would be in the same exact position but with an essential part of his kit not on cooldown.

[@themuffinman4838]

FIRST

[@solilacio]

What a nice game dude 🎉

[@emmandiaz3495]

FIRST

[@solilacio]

What a nice game dude 🎉