One D&D: Picking Apart the Expert Classes

[@stephenlucas8836]

34:22 quick reminder for watchers that don’t reach the end, two weapon fighting now don’t use a bonus action so you can still use hunter’s mark on the same turn as shooting two hand crossbows.

[@stephenlucas8836]

13:00 this dose limit how many 3rd level spells you can prepare which to be frank have been pointed out to me are the best spells to have in general, so good that you probably prioritize your 4th and 5th slots and learn more spell at 3rd level just to cast them more even if they have now upcast benefits. Just example for wizard: Counterspell, Fear, Fireball, Fly, Haste, Hypnotic pattern, Sending, Slow, Tiny Hut, Tongues.

[@MonstersMulticlass]

Agreed. The more I think about it the more I dislike this. I see little simplicity benefits either

[@stephenlucas8836]

@@MonstersMulticlass Feel the opposite way. From what I understand, one of the better ways to lower the spellcaster's power curve without nerfing many spells is to reduce the number of 3rd spells they can use in an encounter, as they disproportionately have higher utility than spells at a higher level. This way of preparing spells also makes it a hell of a lot easier to choices which spells to prepare/learn for a session, especially for a one-shot. Applied the oneD&D Bard prep method when picking spells for my 12th-level druid, and the process was made a lot easier as I knew I only needed to prepare a number of spells at each level equal to the equivalent slots and cut down on the extra hours of agonizing decision making picking more spells thier was not a spell per level limit. After playing this way, I actually preferred preparing spells with the 5.0 ed [ability modifier + your class level] method. I do have some confidence that the 5.0 method will still exist as an optional rule.

[@MonstersMulticlass]

Well that's good to hear you enjoyed it! I was hoping that martials would get more powers, not a lowering of casters. But we'll see the long term

[@disembodiedvoicek]

Love the analysis. I really like that they moved bardic inspiration to be a reaction. It would be interesting if bards can get a feat where they can have two reactions a round. That way lore bards can do both bardic inspiration and cutting words in the same turn.

[@TMRyan]

I agree completely about the change to remove the Hunter customization. I’d preferred if they instead reworked the weaker options as opposed to removing the entirely.

[@JuckiCZ]

The problem is, the weaker options remained, but the best options were taken away: Horde Breaker is gone, Multiattack Defense is gone, Whirlwind/Volley have been replaced with useless spell, the only improvement is high level ability, which is definitely an improvement.

[@JosiahAkaBrick]

Jack of all Trades was re-worded to no longer apply to things such as initiative, Counterspell, or Telekinesis. It was probably an oversight in the original PHB, but it's a fun quirk of the rules interaction that I'm sad to see get errata-ed

[@MonstersMulticlass]

Oh wow you're right! That's actually huge

[@raziel5835]

I was waiting for a video like this from you guys! Dont know how I feel about this UA Lore Bard, the only thing that feels thematic now without Magical secrets is the bonus proficiencies at level 3, maybe Peerless Skill? I dont really get why a bard that specializes in knowledge and traditions gets to insult their enemies and do psychic damage as a subclass feature. 😅

[@JuckiCZ]

I hate what they did to Ranger. Now Rangers have to choose DEX over STR to be relevant, 2WF is now by far the best, no Dueling and no defensive features at Hunter lvl 7 (6). So instead of 7-8 good/viable possible builds (STR or DEX? Melee or Ranged? Defender? Tank? Striker?), we have only 2 left (Ranged or Melee? Rest is set - DEX and Striker, nothing else possible). Terrible game design!

[@kwaksea]

While I personally think old Thief's 3rd lv stuff is more useful than it gets credit for (you may throw dybamite, smoke bomb, or alchemist fire as bonus acrion) it wont make me play old rogue. About usefulness of old Thief, ask Flute Loot kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYnVXnaCYp2aoM0