One & Done On Ranked Is Shameful | Tekken 8 Rant

Hear me out. I have a reason for making such a bold claim lol.
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[@OTOBIOhazord]

The only time i leave is when the connection is atrocious. Can't be fun for either of us, so let's just find a better match.

[@ShadowMark3_]

God damn WiFi Players...

[@Frostile]

​@ShadowMark3_ I haven't played against a single fellow ethernet user. I have also only had a single game with bad connection (so far). Yes ethernet is better, but ridiculing and gatekeeping people who cant use ethernet or are simply casual players is not fair. Someone using WiFi is not the defining point of whether the game will be bad.

[@ShadowMark3_]

@@Frostile every time I've played against wifi, which has been quite a bit, it has gotten severely laggy. I just can't if I don't have to.

[@16bitktempo]

@@Frostile there are various methods to get ethernet if the modem is far from the room ppl game in. ppl dont have to settle for wifi.

[@juanbarb57]

​@@Frostile Unfortunately, I didn't have the same experience, whenever a 5 bar Wi-Fi option would pop-up I'd always take it in the beggining, but the matches were ALWAYS troublesome, they were a bit iffy and jaggedy at best and literally unplayable, slo-mo fests at worst, which happened quite a bit, it effectively stopped me from accepting Wi-Fi matches period, I'm not saying I'm getting 100% perfect matches all the time against Ethernet bros, but they feel a lot more consistent.

[@williamlindsey2744]

As someone who ALWAYS rematches others, I want to give a friendly reminder that no one owes you a rematch. Regardless of their reasons, they do not have to rematch you. It honestly annoys me to type this as I really would like for my opponent to rematch me as well, regardless if they won or loss the 1st set.

[@toXXic501]

for sure! like personally im here to game and the more matches i get to play the more i get to game so when someone leaves, i get mild irration purely for the fact of IM TRYNNA GAME ARENT YOU? lol

[@Triforcebro]

You owe it to yourself to finish the set.

[@coreyrachar9694]

For real, a mature take unlike so many others in the FGC. It's human nature to assume the worst reason possibly for why you opponent is or isn't doing something but it's really not always about you. Even if it is, sometimes the other person doesn't wanna fight you because they noticed you're spamming and playing like a monkey and they'd rather not lose randomly to some flailing kid with an ego the size of an entire country. This is as valid a reason as any other, just get over it lol.

[@sammitch524]

Yeah, but why wouldn't you just rematch? Unless it's a bad connection or an unfortunately timed real-life distraction, I really can't think of a good reason to not rematch.

[@moominfin]

​@@coreyrachar9694 Creating a whole character for the opponent in your imagination and pretending like any loss would be "random" is something only a person with an inflated and fragile ego would do. Take the L and accept you were beat instead of accusing someone of being a mashing kid and running.

[@JoseJimenez-fc6pu]

I get more frustrated when we win a set each, and a 3rd set is needed to break the tie....and then they leave! That REALLY pisses me off!

[@Synthpopper]

In which case, assume the remainer is the overall victor

[@inzanity490]

T7 on launch would've definitely pissed you off... there was no unlimited rematches. Always only two matches. Even if both won, no third match to break the tie

[@junkmagician]

it’s like damn dude it was just getting good

[@calleocho2107]

@randomvideoboy1true competitive players don’t believe in that

[@Airuniel]

That's called frienship wins, why so toxic:(

[@andredw1763]

I ain’t gone lie, if it’s Victor I win or lose I’m out!

[@tobiasvik3278]

Yep. It's a joyless character. Like fighting a mummy that randomly teleports.

[@calleocho2107]

@@tobiasvik3278I don’t get it, why people have a problem with him?

[@darklurker0194]

Can't stand playing against Victor. it's not even fun

[@Kyori888]

Just jab when the teleport lol

[@andredw1763]

@@Kyori888 it’s easier said then done.

[@sakimiyanaga6251]

Fighting Game. People forget the more important part of this word, the 'Game' part. Games were fundamentally made for entertainment. Not everybody picked up Tekken 8 or SF6 to become the next Knee or Daigo. Some saw the marketing, thought it was cool, and gave it a try. For the majority of people, they don't even realize that being good at it can already be a sustainable livelihood in this modern era. A person would be lying if he told you that in his family reunion one day he decided to tell everyone that his job is competing in fighting games and he didn't get weird looks. People need to accept the fact, that games in general are stress relief and because of that they're not always going to press that rematch button. Do you really expect fighting a victor who spammed 22222 in the entire fight to rematch you after you sidestepped his Glock, launched him, and then killed him? How about the Asuka who kept spamming parry because it worked well in arcade only to get grabbed (grabs in this game are unbreakable if they caught you while doing a parry) over and over? How about the King who got boosted to Vanquisher with his myriad of throws only to face you whose throw break defense is S+ because you've been breaking them since tekken 5? No. When you find these people you need to understand that they play the game for stress relief. They come home from work, boot up the game, hoping to get their fill of dopamine that will help them stave off the stress and not unalive themselves thinking that they have to work for an douche boss 5-6 days in a week. Unless you're in extremely high ranks, where it's obvious everyone's playing to get better, you shouldn't expect anyone to give you a rematch and even then, having a 'bad day' is still a perfectly acceptable reason to walk away.

[@CADPgamer]

Why are they grinding in ranked then? There's literally quick play and lounges.

[@BanditTools]

@@CADPgamerPlayers like this dude will turn around and tell you they can’t play Casual because it’s not taken seriously. How will you get your dopamine if number doesn’t go up.

[@sakimiyanaga6251]

@@CADPgamer Because Ranked has more newbies. If you've played this game as much as I have (and the previous titles) you know you're going to find Tekken God Primes/ God of Destructions in casual. Meanwhile you'll only find similarly skilled players in Ranked (most of the time, T8 matchmaking can be weird sometimes).

[@sakimiyanaga6251]

@@BanditTools Opposite, nice try though. If you're the kind of person who just wants to have fun winning, you don't want to rank up. That's how you plateau. You don't want to plateau if you want your dopamine. You want your easy wins in brawler- warrior ranks. On the other hand if you have fun by getting better at the game, that's when you want to either 'win a lot in ranked' until you start fighting arslan ash, knee, and anakin. OR, go to casuals, where strong players who are too scared to lose their rank practice. Lastly, you could be the third kind, who enjoys being notorious. Someone like Locaso. You're probably doing it for content in front of an audience who knows you're a loser. You can then use scripts and just frame quit every time you're about to lose in ranked.

[@iwasakikoji6969]

Man, I dunno about you, but I tried quick play and got matched with guys WAY above my rank when I was Beginner and got stomped thoroughly. I don't care about rank at all, but ranked has been the only way I've been able to find a more level playing field.@@CADPgamer

[@Jellofreeze]

If you are going to rematch a person , do it based on being competitive. Do not rematch just because " its the thing to do". A player gets thier ass destroyed in Rank, get demoted , and they're supposed to fight the person AGAIN so they can lose twice and get demoted even further. Lmfao! You can honestly find another match up within seconds on Tekken 8. Theres no shortage of opponents so 'Rank Shaming ' One and Dones is fruitless. Sad part is I've seeen so many streams where a player rematches. ( not because they are competitive ) They rematch because they were taught to finish the set no matter what. More times than not it ends HORRIBLY for them. Twice.

[@alonechyld]

totally agree

[@despicableree58]

I always want to finish the set. But there are some matches where the connection magically starts to slow down when I get a launcher that sour it.

[@ScientologyHunter2]

tbh I don´t mind people not rematching if they get completely destroyed (it´s understandable they don´t want to try again)...the ones that annoy me are the ones who manage to steal a win with cheese and run off or the ones who beat you in the first match thinking they get another easy win, you turn up and beat them and the leave on 1 - 1 it´s never a big deal tho...just a little annoying sometimes

[@burni988]

I left on a loss one time against a bear player. It's very rare I leave but that time I did cause I knew I would lose and I went to lab the character straight after. I wasn't gonna learn anything in that match when I can't even recognize any of the moves. I haven't left in a long time now tho and I don't think I'd need to cause I have enough of an understanding of all the characters that I can learn at least something even on heavy losses.

[@junk_bot_man6412]

I fought a bear and he dogged on me and I knew I’d lose so I rematched but I found that trick he used (my lack of knowledge) and managed to win the whole set. That’s what put the mindset into my head. No matter how hard the fight was, I gotta find their trick and win

[@TheDarkness4560]

​@@burni988I wouldn't emphasize on leaving tho in your Bear case. ^^ What I like to do if I get demolished in a match up knowledge check is I try and change my playstile (more passive or aggressive etc) And even if they demolish me there too I got 2 replays to study what I did wrong. Replay feature way too good imo.

[@nanobreaker1128]

I get how 1 and dones are aggravating,but I agree with the emergency comments simply because this is a videogame...unless this is your job well there is always a good reason to stop playing even I it's in the middle of a game.

[@Sammysapphira]

95% of winquits and lose quits are done out of ego, not emergency. If "Emergencies" were a thing you'd see people go afk in the middle of the round, which happens aobut 1 in every 50-100 games.

[@kennedymensah6270]

@@Sammysapphirait’s not even just emergencies tho you could just have 5 minutes but to 10-15 millions of people unironically play a single game of ranked before work or school

[@kennedymensah6270]

@@Sammysapphiralike I never return to standby but I never get mad at someone who does simply because I know that 1million things could stop them from coming back anything from a bad connection on their side, checking their phone seeing a missed call from their dad, having to take a shit but having to finish the match, I can think of 1million valid reasons to not rematch. It’s honestly a matter that they don’t have to. Technically the call, the shit, and the connection could be dealt with for one more game but honestly they don’t need to be. If you want that complain to harada not anyone else

[@blueisacolor7639]

Ok, I'm gonna say this cuz i think many will be scared to and also seems most people are in a sheepish mindset unwilling to actually think logically. I mean no offense. I like a good productive convo. Firstly, yes a person can one and done if they want. Not everyone has the same goals as anyone else in playing or find enjoyment from doing the full set. That's cool. Hate when folks try to push the bs narrative that you need to rematch them in ranked to get better. No you dont. You got quick match, practice mode, friends, group match, etc etc. I think yal use "you cant get better" as an excuse to try to mask yal own frustrations and personal ego because that point is literally one of the weakest arguments for them to play you again. 😂 They could learn without ranked mode. So could you. If all of the folks with a problem with it all wanted to learn, yal wouldnt have trouble finding ways to help each other beyond just a "won a set against you, bye". Add each other and do sets of ten lol. Secondly, there's tons of reasons a person can one and done besides the typical reasons yal bring up. For instance, they just want to tick you off because they know yal hate it, same with ki charging and t bagging, or maybe they take some weird pride in ranking up from just doing one match, etc. Regardless of their reason, we can only guess from the outside. People crying about a person choosing not to risk their points is, IRONICALLY, just as "caring about losing" as much as the guy quitting. Otherwise, why does it matter if they play you again? You'll see that same character hundreds of times and if yal got a similar mindset, add each other and work on learning the ins and outs of the character. Taking ranks so seriously that you all will talk trash, call names, and be toxic to people for simply possibly choosing to strategically not risk their points, being scared, or whatever their reason is funny to me. There's so many other players, matches, and things you can do to get better, if that's your aim, that it doesnt make much sense to get salty at all lol then try to tell them how important it is to take those matches less seriously and accept losses so they get better. Yal dont see the hypocrisy? Who cares if they get a cheap win on you, you're just playing just to get better right? Even if you wn you cant learn that character in one ft3 right? Well on to the next, shouldn't matter enough to create a whole video complaining, twitter, or call names. Half the players could be little kids and yal get angy and judge. "Be a man and finish the set", maybe, how about be a man and shrug it off like nothing? It's a game. "But respect tho", 90% of yal in the fgc are toxic, disrespectful, and illogical many times. So getting yal respect aint some significant thing to care about. Yal take ranks, points, and whatnot so seriously that yal actually care if they "fake" their skill? The "appearing good but not good" point only matters if yal take ranks as some end all of skill. A beginner rank could beat gods, a God could lose to beginner ranks. Ironically, if yal stopped depending on others to give you a chance to get your win or learn, yal would probably be less triggered.

[@wombochrombo3610]

9/10 I’ll rematch win or lose unless it’s a King player💀

[@rbelljr29]

I know this feel Mike. Right now I'm fighting my way to "Master" in sf6. (Currently plat 5) I take wins, i get bodied...but i always follow through on the ft2. I've gone from 186k, down to 178k, back up to 184k as of last night. The road up isn't supposed to be easy. If im losing to diamond players, then im not ready for diamond. Gotta get better.

[@abstractmodern4920]

Realest shit I ever read 💯💪 Huge respect

[@AzureSkywalker]

I respect players like this

[@juanbarb57]

"1 in a 1000 one and dones are an actual emergency" not true, the amount of times I'd fucking shit myself whenever I realized I needed to go badly after just one match is surprisingly high, shit happens (literally), its just a game at the end of the day and I'm not about to shit my breeches for an honourable duel lmao

[@BigheadBao39cm]

You can literally tell if someone had to go or is being a coward by the way they play. I have fought alissas and hworangs who only decline rematches after you figure out how to punish a certain move they like to spam, its usually pretty obvious. If you play like a normal person i will assume your door rang or something

[@robotwars666]

why would i rematch someone who totaly crushes me and i barely get a hit on him?? i play for fun if someone completly destroys me why would i lose another match 0-3 were i barely can do a thing? Instead i go the next match and get someone who where i have a close match agianst and then yes i rebattle because its fun and you learn way more from that then getting 0-3 stomped. Mayby there are also players that arent't that good in the game and rather have a fun match then getting 0-3 stomped? Idc about my rank how long i have fun playing Like whats wrong with that??

[@flerphead]

lounge and quickplay are great for that.

[@robotwars666]

@@flerphead yeah playing agianst people Who are 8 ranks higher or lower then you great.... I just do ranked and get players of my own skill level

[@flerphead]

@@robotwars666 but you dont thats why you one and done.

[@robotwars666]

@@flerphead LMAO did you even read the comment i only one and done agianst people who destroy me 3-0 there is no fun in that. People were i have close matches agianst i always rematch. Many people one and done me too they made it in the game so its fair play. deal with it!

[@flerphead]

@@robotwars666 learn to lose scrub

[@KingBaihu]

That Adesanya one is a good example of this. Didn't expect you to use that fight, although at least we're able to see Strickland dominate him. Off topic but I hope Volkanovski serves Ilia a humble pie on Saturday.

[@faisaalkamara4181]

damn this aged a bit poorly

[@KingBaihu]

@@faisaalkamara4181 I know man, I agree for sure definitely. Even if he didn't get KO'd from the Islam rematch, Ilia would've still get the job done, especially if Max and Brian was able to drop Volk

[@theplaymakerno1]

If a Battle Can’t be Won, Don’t Fight It. - Sun Tzu

[@genyatus]

Man, this sounds so whiny.

[@RealMikeHollow]

It is. I kept whining after the recording ended.

[@acesword7111]

​@@RealMikeHollow I respect it

[@umbrasunbro2142]

Generally I rematch as much as possible because I just don’t want to wait/i want to play as much as possibly. But sometimes the “emergency” is going to the bathroom, or picking my something up or something. It doesn’t have to be an actual emergency. And I put it like this: it’s a game, win lose or draw, if I gotta use the toilet, or run to the door, or whatever the case I’m going to exit and jump back on later, even if it’s only 2 minutes and I personally don’t think I have to explain myself (if I do it’s as a curtesy). The game only gives you 10 seconds to decide, my name ain’t Sonic or Berry, I’m not gonna be back in that 10 seconds

[@coreyrachar9694]

It's all in your head, bro. There are many reasons someone might leave after one match. Like I understand that it always FEELS like they are disrespecting you because I feel that too, and many times they probably are. But like, take me for example. I have anger problems, always have. I have a tendancy to break my stuff and do really stupid things when I'm angry so if for any reason I feel myself getting angry I just leave the set without going again, even if I won. It could be the way my opponent is playing, the way i'm playing, or simply the fact that I'm getting bodied. Whatever, It doesn't matter, and isn't about my opponent. It's a personal flaw that I recognize and this is one way I try to minimize it. Or maybe someone has to leave for some reason, pick any reason (crying baby, knock on the door, phone call, literally whatever). The reality is that tekken ranked matches are not always the top priority for people. For real though, unless someone is outright BMing you, getting offended about them leaving is just you inventing something to be upset about. Offended at something that might not even exist.

[@Sammysapphira]

This is a completely invalid and fallacious argument. "Emergencies" are a valid reason to stop playing the game, but 9 times out of 10, it's not an emergency. If you truly had an "emergency", or a time sensitive event, you would AFK in the middle of the round. The people who do 1 and done ARE Bming, because 99% of the time, they either got exposed for being a fraud, or got a cheap round and saw you starting to figure it out at the end of the match. I never see legitimate players quitting anywhere near as much as total frauds.

[@coreyrachar9694]

@@Sammysapphira It's not all about you bro. Deflate the ego a bit and you'll live a much less stressful life. Even if you're completely right, you're only stressing yourself out by getting so upset about it. It's really not that a big a deal if you were better than a random guy on the internet or not. I'm not trying to antagonize you. This is what I consider honest advice from an old dude who spent most of his life way too angry and upset about things like you described.

[@Biscord]

I will say, I am a one and done player and im shameless about it. My reason for doing it though is for one of the following reasons or multiple or all of the above 1. Their connection sucks and the game is too laggy to have a rematch and I dont want to deal with that problem anymore 2. because I live in South Africa, I often get matched with the same people multiple times. (I have had an instance where I matched up with someone 6 ranks higher than me 3 times in a row and it was the same person). If I wanna fight the same person multiple times id create a session or group match so no I dont want that. 3. I dont want to fight a scummy person. Some people are just not enjoyable to fight and I dont want to fight them again. I refuse to plug so ill just one and done. like I said I am unapologetic about it. I wont have others ruin my fun, they can match up with someone else and if the game forces me to run into them again then I will fight them again I do try to get better, while I stream my viewers can see me doing stuff like studying frame data, side stepping, watching replays and downloading and watching pro players matches and all that stuff (Leroy main btw) so I do spend my time trying to get better at the game and its always tested. but I am someone who whether I win or lose, I will one and done unless I really enjoyed my match with them

[@MannerdDesert7]

Hey Mike, are you going to upload your convo with Fate. It seemed like you guys worked things out, if you decided to keep the convo private that’s fine but it would be interesting to see how you guys hashed things out.

[@Yanquii]

If someone crushes me for the first match and want a rematch, i am declining. If i loose but the match was great for both party, i rematch and if i win, i simply wait for the challenger answer. If they want a rematch then i accpet (and that’s mostly what i’ve encountered). If they win the rematch and decline my rematch, then fuck off. 😂

[@usmansubhani7482]

So if I have a match, then need to take a shit. Do I have to hold it in so you can have a rematch? If I do it once then I should be blacklisted? I respect the opinion of having the right mindset but the people who are worse are pluggers. Making a video about ‘one and done’ isn’t really going to make other things brought up vividly clear. One and done is an option for a reason. There were a lot point farming in Tekken 7 and even if I gave a second game, there won’t be much to see. Unless you go back to the drawing board and learn punishing, a second rematch won’t really improve your skills. Losing in itself doesn’t increase your skills, and you only learn when you’re actually practicing on covering your weakness. Moreover, even if it’s not taking a shit there are chores and IRL. Tekken 8 isn’t even the only game I have.

[@ZeldaKingdomHearts9]

as someone who will quit after losing a match, it’s not always to protect my pride lol. not to say i never get frustrated as a new player, but i would rather go watch the replay for tips so i actually LEARN rather than get demolished twice bc i got shaken a bit and couldn’t learn from the first match. don’t really see the point in blacklisting someone for this bc chances are they’re new, and a big reason the community can fail to grow is being shamed for using options literally baked into the game. no need to be a sore winner about things.

[@usmansubhani7482]

There are times higher level players don’t rematch me. Not because I won but that they have standards. It’s pretty short-sighted to think only those who lose do ‘one and done’.

[@XxPlatinumChief]

One reason probably is cause they get low points .

[@burni988]

12:33 this was me in T7 which is another reason I'm happy that infonite rematch is gone. It applied for win streaks too lol, I just nearly always rematched till the other person said no. It also meant my rank was a lot more volatile cause it would just depend on what person I got into an hour+ long set with. Friendly match is a great idea tho.

[@ITSBurgerPT]

I never remtach people because I know it hurts their ego and that is really funny to me 😂😂😂

[@elusivenahwoo]

Do I have this right? Opponent: Wins yet leaves = Rage Losses and leaves = Rage Player: Wins yet leaves, Depends on connection/Is bored = Acceptable Losses and leaves = Being salty/tryhard So what's the difference between rage quitting at that point? The opponent and the player will be upset regardless of who wins or loses and if they just decide to leave on the first one. The only difference is you're either given points for the win or lose points for taking an honest loss instead of just shutting off the game. But if the person wins and they still get their points because their opponent didn't Rage Quit... then why would the person who won be angry? Would they rather the opponent Rage Quit so they can make quick upload clip, or at least get the points they won? I am aware Esports exist and everything but why are people treating online like it's grand finals? ( I come from a family of extreme sport fanatics and I don't believe I've heard of something this convoluted over winning or losing ) I can understand the whole tournament thing because there's lots of money on the line. What isn't ranked mode pretty much just bragging rights? And what about the whole thing of people saying - "Being an online ranked Warrior isn't the same as being up there on stage." (or whatever) I mean damn guys. I'm pretty sure not everyone who has bought the game is planning to make a career out of it. Some people just see video games as what they are - A pastime. If someone is getting this worked up over convoluted technicalities regarding unspoken rules for games (that aren't even in a tournament) I wouldn't even bother playing online in that game if I'm going to risk getting my account banned because I somehow hurt someone's feelings. I enjoy video games, but I'll never understand why some people take it *THIS* seriously.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Nobody's feelings are hurt and always attributing wanting to play the full set to someone being into eSports seems a little narrow minded. I just like playing in my room, but I like to complete the set. That's it. It's no fun when someone leaves right way. That's subjective obviously but that's not fun to me. Maybe it is to you. I'd argue that you're missing out on the fun of Tekken because the longer matches go, the more you'll see playstyles evolve and new moves be used rather than just one. Again, nothing to do with eSports, just a different idea of what fun is.. and yes, taking points does give a sense of accomplishment and that's fun to some people. Does that mean they're running to book their next ticket to EVO... No. Just a different idea of what fun is.

[@oflife6265]

So I always rematch cause apparently that “respectful” stat is based on rematching and I want that shit at S+ lol Jokes aside I don’t think we are entitled to a rematch as long as developers don’t force it. I disagree with you that everyone needs to be improving. I feel a flowcharter that refuses to learn still adds value to the health of the game at a casual level, and I want them to play as long as possible. If not forcing rematches is gonna help that, that’s fine. At the end of the day Flowchart Jim is gonna quit if he gets bodied too many times in a row, but the guy actually dedicating himself to getting better is not gonna quit over a few win quits. Also if you mash through the win screen and hit rematch before your opponent makes a selection, it usually doesn’t freeze on me. Only freezes when I choose simultaneously or after my opponent.

[@curtisjackson4090]

Lmao wait is that Respect Stat for real? That's awesome

[@LonesomeSparrow7]

The respectful stat has nothing to do with it. I have respectful on S+ and I never rematch.

[@DanL90]

I have played tekken for the first time since ps1 this week and i play ranked, Im learning the game and dont expect to win every game at all and for me if im playing someone who beats me within 10 seconds 3 rounds in a row i see no point in rematching, it doesnt make me scared its just seeing the experience difference and i dont see how i will learn with the exact same thing happening again. If i have a entertaining game with someone or its close i will rematch, or if i win i will give them a chance to fight again. a lot of people play these games just for fun, its really not that deep, i dont care about gaining someones respect, i just want to fight on there learn and have fun, im not trying to go to tournaments or put 10k hours into it. You have 3 rounds to win or lose, no one owes anyone anything else except for seeing them out without rage quitting like a child. Ive had people who didnt want to fight me again and see no problem with it, i moved on and fought someone else because it takes literally 10 seconds to find another game.

[@magicalsensation4600]

Reasons I one and done: The other guy is playing Azucena, Viktor, Yoshimitsu, Reina, or Devil Jin. Those fuckers are way too annoying to fight so I'm saving my own sanity.

[@hatsuneelissu5924]

i only move on if i whent against someone that i have 0% chance in winning! u want a rematch and tbag me more while stroking your ego over a unfair win? Nahh no thanks! *U wont learn from it* learn what? taking Advantage over people thats not your level? nahh ill one & done THAT

[@Synthpopper]

Meh. I stay if I'm having difficult matches. But if the opponent is actually tilting me or being toxic I'm out after 1 set. I don't even care. My mental health matters more than someone's gamer pride and 100 rank points. And it does feel like the people complaining about 1 set care as much about their points as the people who leave do.

[@JadenRockz99]

I have no shame, so I will do one and done until the game allows me to pick stages when losing. Even if I win, I would never subject my opponents to play on Underground Arena and it's bullshit wall resets.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Man, I love that stage 😂

[@JadenRockz99]

@@RealMikeHollow As someone that mains Leo, it's absolutely busted dude. Anyway, I will cease one and done when they update so I can change the stages and the characters just like in tourneys.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

I only do that with Howarang in ranked. I hate fighting that mf 😂

[@just-hx2oj]

remember when playing fighting games was about enjoying yourself? yeah, me neither also, emergency doesn't always mean a straight up disaster is occurring. if I get a call from my mom or grandma I would obviously prioritize answering it rather than finishing the set (unplugging is almost inexcusable tho)

[@younes9745]

I do one and done not because of point or false emergency. Its because of the character, if i play against law, king or F***** victor. I leave win or loss. Im not here to learn or some nerd shit. Im here to have fun in a game i worked and paid for to have fun after work.

[@younes9745]

4:44 its a game man 🫥🫥, i was enjoying watching KZbin about T8 but i think you guys are just either very young or toxic as hell.

[@maximumdeejay]

He is the amongst the most played character next to Reina rn, might as well play sum else since you don't enjoy the game that often.

[@NarcoticDimension]

Hey mike, what are your thoughts on Arslan checking SonicFox, and sikander getting in on it too? Such an embarrassment trying to get in with the tekken pros. Arslan knows better than him.

[@RealMikeHollow]

I'll have a look at it tonight, bro. Hadn't been on twitter to check 🙏🏾

[@NarcoticDimension]

​@RealMikeHollow ah fair enough bro!

[@demrasnawla]

I usually rematch but i dont think its that deep, sometimes someone doesn't have time for another match. A lotta people are playing in their break, or when they're about to go out, or about to go to bed, or they live with others who might need their attention or help, etc.

[@kimbeakhyun9991]

I have to say is that fighting genre for this generation of player don't like losing even on other games

[@alextyc3]

I rematch but this opinion is pretty entitled.

[@RealMikeHollow]

100%

[@SuperJJParker]

No, it isn't. The 1 and done players are entitled.

[@soulserum5030]

You don't deserve a rematch. It's an option for a reason.

[@alextyc3]

@@SuperJJParker how are they entitled? They dont owe you a rematch.

[@SuperJJParker]

@@alextyc3 They feel like they have the right to cherry-pick their fights to rank up. They feel they deserve the higher ranks and don't need to earn them by winning legitimate sets. If you aren't prepared to play the set that you sign up for, then just stick to casual matches.

[@neoconnor4395]

I think Izzy wasn't interested in a rematch because Dana wanted to preserve both Alex and Izzy's draw power by sparing one of them in a hypothetical rematch from becoming obsolete after defeat. Instead he can move Alex up to 205, and they both kept their careers (until Strickland smoked Izzy).. Honestly a rematch doesn't make any sense to me, but we have a pretty good idea about what would happen anyway.. 4-1, Poatan! **does crazy ring entrance crossbow reenactment of a tribesmen, and screams in the camera**

[@thecritic8947]

That’s because there’s no more unlimited rematches which mean less chances to figure your opponent out

[@waize-1383]

You have ghost battles for that though. Though if they haven't trained it thats the downside to it.

[@MissEVE07]

While I do respect what you’re saying in the video, I’ve got one question for you; Why is it an issue now with one and done? If it wasn’t an issue back in Tekken 7 and Dead or Alive 6, then why is it an issue now?

[@stratusfactionlove]

That’s actually a good question. I didn’t see people complaining when Tekken 7 and DOA6 allowed players to 1 and done, so I don’t understand the issue all of a sudden with people choosing to 1 and done whether it’s an emergency or not.

[@BobtheX]

@@stratusfactionlove It was simply less common back in Tekken 7. Honestly it's still not very common for me in Tekken 8. In all my time playing I've only met one person who left after I beat him and it was a Victor player. But I'm still orange ranks so maybe it's a problem more for high rank.

[@waize-1383]

@@BobtheX It shouldn't be an issue now if it wasn't one before. Even at high ranks, I've seen Tekken gods/Omega Tekken King Emperor ect in 7 pull a one-and-done constantly in both Ranked and Player matches and in player matches it really never made sense but it is what it is. People just salty about not getting revenge and their ego is bruised because of it. It can be annoying I been on that side but I also understand I'm not entitled to shyt. If they don't run it again either their scared punani or they want to move on. either way its fine. I'll run into them again eventually and humble them and even pull a run and done on them since they didn't give me the rematch.

[@stratusfactionlove]

@@waize-1383 Exactly and I’ve been one and done’ed countless of times in DOA6 than on Tekken 8 and no one complained, so I’m confused why people are making a big deal out of it now.

[@illsneakyou]

Bro on tekken ranked all you see is Reina and eddy that shit is annoying nobody want to Vs that again.

[@BvLee]

If I’m on my laptop playing on the keyboard on Wi-Fi are y’all rematching me?

[@AyoCoffeeSama]

This is honestly a hot take here. No one is honestly obligated to rematch you. Win or lose. Doesn't matter. Just move on. Kinda childish if you ask me.

[@daddy_murdoc]

I'm a beginner and I'm trying to learn the game. What could I possibly learn from a veteran player going all out and comboing me into oblivion 6 times in a row? Thats right, nothing. So I one and done and move on to the next fight. Where, I will definitely lose but hopefully I can squeeze in one counter or combo etc and actually learn something

[@HarmonicResonanceScale]

You don't know enough to know what you could have learned. Getting dumpstered is paying your dues. It will happen again and again and again. You either learn to adjust on the fly or you keep losing.

[@Sammysapphira]

You can learn lots from fighting a "veteran comboing you into oblivion"... Why are you getting launched? Why are you getting counter hit...? Holy crap... this justification is terrible. If you're getting 100-0'd by "veteran" green ranks, then the issue is you're not even thinking about learning.

[@phenom504]

Even though I tend to rematch after I win or lose, the amount of points that you lose after a loss can be pretty harsh, so I can see how some people may be hesitant to rematch especially if they might lose twice and lose double the amount of points. People do play to win at the end of the day, and losing does help you learn and get better at the game, but I think some may be more willing to take losses when they reach a higher rank cuz they will still be seen as good even if they’re on a losing streak. I can also understand if it’s a laggy match and they choose to leave after one match. It’s not a big deal for me if someone doesn’t want to rematch, but I can see how it could be annoying.

[@SageRyock]

I play ranked almost exclusively, and I don't mind losing a couple ranks from time to time. It doesn't mean anything anyway, and I'm just looking to improve. That said, no one owes you a rematch. It could be a number of things. The connection seemed good at first, and then it became spotty. Something came up that I need to tend to(I'm married, so sometimes my wife will ask if I can help her with something, so I tell her right after the fight, then refuse the rematch). And even if it's not either of those, I will refuse a rematch if I get thoroughly destroyed, because at that point I'm not learning anything, I'm just giving the guy a free win and I recognize that.

[@snoop_lion]

If they whoop you so bad that you're butthurt and want a rematch just to "learn the matchup" but they leave, maybe you should use the built in replay system to see what they did right and what you did wrong, instead of sitting there being pissed off lol

[@notyourscott4510]

Fought a super gimmicky Law player that I lost the first game to. After finding their gimmick out in the first game I completely reverse swept them. I was so ready to do it again in the 3rd game but they left instantly and I've never had such a big smile on my face knowing they left because I figured them out.

[@romeodoyle2952]

Who was it lol? I use law 😂

[@CallmeSins]

What im hearing is you want to farm me out!? Lmao

[@RealMikeHollow]

I've been found out ☠️

[@CallmeSins]

@@RealMikeHollow just jokes. Lol

[@alekid]

Being new to Tekken I had to get used to the level of frustration getting beaten brings. I never plug and never will, and I always rematched, up to one day that I got so frustrated that I started denying rematches whenever I knew I would be destroyed. My argument was that I couldn't learn a thing by being juggled to the wall after 1 single whiff and that I had not learned the match up yet, therefore I couldn't win regardless. However I gradually chilled and started rematching more and more as soon as I noticed what you also said here: we might get destroyed for 1 match but eventually we figure something out and we might learn something, and sometimes make a come back. Now that I have admitted being guilty of Cancelling rematches (only sometimes, when I get destroyed; I'm not a chronic "Canceler") I have to say I agree with your argument here. The only exception to this would be matches with Wifi players that start lagging immensely, or if I find disrespectful or abusive taunting. I really can't stand that one bit and I don't feel I owe any respect to trolls, so in that case I feel free to go search for other players.

[@cbimz]

Personally I have no problem rematching in ranked except if it's a character I really dislike like long or Yoshi. I should still rematch but sometimes the stress is too much. I do however rematch when I lose because playing better players makes you better if your willing to learn

[@toXXic501]

The replay system is your best friend. ill rematch someone even when i lose HARD purely for the fact of my intentions are to go to the replay system and learn why i lost

[@scarfacepr1874]

I won and done in TEKKEN8 because these mother flowers deserve it but I've been facing too many rat's that deserve it that I'm ONE AND DONING people almost in every match, I can't stand this game and especially almost all of the TEKKEN community, you guys are toxic as hell, shaking my head!!!

[@Ro-fw3lc]

Some ranked matches are just a slog to get through,met a nina that kept doing a string that ended with her firing her guns constantly (she was higher ranked than me too) so I won after making changes to my gameplan and left.

[@eh4372]

Yes you are right. Iv experienced a lot and I’m guilty of a couple 😂. But generally happens to me. I find if you win they leave if they win but it was extremely close they leave. They only stay generally when they destroy you.

[@YabbyUra]

I never one and done but I definitely always take a small break from Ranked if I lose two “sets” since I don’t want to have my learning clouded from being in a potential bad mood/shitty mindset. Doing this has actually decreased my tilt considerably.

[@iwasakikoji6969]

I often 1 and done because I get pissed at my own execution and just immediately head right back into practice.

[@angeloskossyvas2884]

We found something MK1 is better than T8 at the moment at least, the way the ranked mode work. I don't mean the road to Elder God but what you talked about in the video. If you Win a game in MK you have to complete the set to get points, if you quit early you lose point and the opponent gets points, also the MK have the feature for friendly rematch. Finally a W for MK1 because otherwise the MK1 is full of Ls.

[@curtisjackson4090]

I might have to get MK1 down the road. But yeah I've heard a decent amount of people say this about MK1 rank. Props to MK rank

[@justadude8893]

now im gonna start by saying feng players are the same to me as eddy, katarina and alisa. law and paul as well, where everyone who plays them is usually carried and picking this char because they have such strong and obnoxious tools to make up for thier lack of knowledge and skill... you are right about wanting to keep points and rank. and with your point about being able to defend it. but i just wanna call out your rose tinted shades and also realize not everyone wants to fight feng or alisa or azucena/reina... maybe my ranked session is going great without running into some scub who only has his rank because he can only mash and does not need to actually play tekken wharsoever.. he can go into kempo stance and cheese the whole time or snipe me with d3 (alisa)....plenty of times im launching scubs and they still keep doing same shit. ima rematch these guys??? i normally wouldnt watch a feng mains vids either but i like ya bro, except this take. good god, the lack of perspective. maybe no rematch cuz i gotta piss? hate the stage? gotta take trash out, shower.. or am just way too tilted to fight a hwo or feng... who demand 200% of your respect and attention at all times. finally some chars just cheese and flowchart you to death... regardless of you launching them.. some chars are just straight up brain dead... feng being one of the worst examples of this.. no need to step. no need to backdash. just mash. character will do everything for you.. like alisa, kuni. paul , and law

[@danielnewton6718]

5:46 I understand that completely, spend 8 to 10 fights getting a couple hundred points a pop then run into an ascending monster that just juggernauts you out they way for minus 1000 😅😢

[@amarjo351]

Damn, I guess I'll piss myself mid match 😂

[@spitfire7170]

Personally I only get annoyed at people not rematching when I go against someone much much better than me with my main because I want to learn more from how they play to improve my game and then they just leave and their ghost is just as good as a ghost can be so there's not much to learn from that

[@hermetichermitxxxiii8131]

As soon as they rematch. I just let the time run out,and laugh.

[@altafahmad8578]

lol

[@hermetichermitxxxiii8131]

@@altafahmad8578 :)

[@wiremuharimate6666]

Yeah I faced a lot of people who do that like for some reason I feel like it's because they know I'm catching on to their move set and when I lose the first match, I've got a set game plan for the second and just as I'm about to press rematch, I said that they cancelled and it lowkey irritates me to some degree

[@wiremuharimate6666]

And for me personally it happens the most with Eddy players like Eddy is pretty strong but he's pretty easy to telegraph because I find a lot of Eddy's have similar rotations in their move sets like a lot of them spam the same moves which makes it easier and easier to punish them for it

[@zenodio3D]

This isn't really a big deal at all. People do this to me all the time but I really don't get why anyone would be bothered by this at all.

[@wontonkhan42069]

Is that a yujiro hanma costume? I want to make Feng into Retsu!

[@DaPhenomAce]

I understand because folks got lives outside of gaming but I have gotten salty when my streak ended. I need that run back lol

[@valvilpro]

To be honest I might have one and done a couple times, because I felt underwhelming and needed to go lab/train before going to rank, realizing that launching rank was too early and was a mistake. I guess some people wouldn't want to keep up with a game because they feel too tilted or tired to enjoy properly the revenge match. I personnaly try to avoid caring about the rank itself since it's not what brings fun, it just gives stronger oponents, which you will eventually match naturaly after you nutured yourself

[@scouge6676]

Reina, the face of one and doners; appropriate thumbnail

[@scarfacepr1874]

I love doing 1 and done matches because of conserving my rank and if you mother flowers got a problem with that I really don't care not even a lil bit!!! 😂😂😂

[@RealMikeHollow]

This man's a villain ☠️

[@scarfacepr1874]

@@RealMikeHollow DAMN RIGHT I AM!!! 😭😭😭😂😂😂💀

[@RealMikeHollow]

@@scarfacepr1874 I want my rematch if we run into each other fam. Don't do me like that ☠️☠️

[@scarfacepr1874]

@@RealMikeHollow 😭😭😭😂😂😂💀

[@scarfacepr1874]

The reason why I'm like this is because I hate fighting games with a passion so I rather piss people off because F fighting games!!!

[@lilwolf4183]

When I play ranked im playing RANKED im picking and choosing my fights. My rank and points are important to me. If i wanna "Learn" then i go into quick match. Quick match where everyone knows it doesnt matter. I think if it makes u that mad u should play unranked. Everyone is more likely to rematch even if there is a clear skill difference.

[@MannerdDesert7]

I can understand if something comes up, like I had to one and done once because my mum needed help with something, it wasn’t an emergency but I’m not going to make her wait for potentially 2 more matches. But if something doesn’t come up or there’s not dogshit lag (I live in Australia so while it’s mostly good connection you occasionally get a 1 fps match) I’ll rematch even if I’m getting my ass beat.

[@ScorZulu]

Playing kazuya in ranked is like playing dark souls. I had to fight 23 lillis, 14 hwo pluggers, and 8 kings just to rank up from eliminator to garyu

[@TheKingOfRuckus]

First thing, I agree with your overall point about "one and done"s; for most it's about that rank for sure. Your experience with (a lack of) lag is very different than mine. Release day I had one or two laggy matches, but the days since then the number has increased. Almost exclusively wi-fi players I have lag issues with. Sometimes it's a four bar I've accepted but it's usually five green or even five blue bars. Some of those wifi matches are more than passable, but several others are just passable, or damn near unplayable. Maybe it's a New York thing with all these wi-fi connections. Against wired players though, generally a solid connection. Not "perfect", but pretty good most of the time. As for one and dones, I've had it happen several times(twice before I stopped between matches to type this out, one after I beat someone in a promotion match). It's especially during ranked but also in Quick Match. Sometimes I can understand it, even if it doesn't count. If you're a beginner to Tekken and you just got completely stomped, you most likely didn't learn anything and the opponent will just steamroll you again, which isn't fun or competitive. At that point why would they not try another opponent who the actually stand a chance against?? That said, I hope these people at least go to practice mode when they leave matches like that. I used to recommend that new players "Stick around and play anyway, (as they) might pick up on something", and get flamed or downvoted on Reddit or elsewhere for that, but after running over a few newbies the first few days, I totally get why most people say beginners should start off more slowly. Just to be clear, I get stomped out at times too. We all do. Difference is us long time players will most likely come back. A beginner might be less inclined to.

[@liftedaura99]

If it was this serious they should’ve made it a game mechanic that you must play best of 3, but they didn’t… get over it

[@stiffo1825]

Some people have kids and if there’s any lag I won’t play a 2nd match win or lose

[@havyn88]

My personal opinion is that people that are genuinely looking to get better will not rematch someone that is obviously much more skilled or much less skilled than them. Genuine competitions comes when both participants are about the same level of skill, there's no point absolutely trashing or getting absolutely trashed for another 2-5 minutes. Especially when the game is newer, there is a big discrepancy in skill levels within ranks.

[@dragonz9688]

Ngl when i leave the 1st match its only because i cant fight tekken gods im just a vaquisher :(

[@TheAcesShow]

I actually dislike how no one wants to add anyone. If I have a really good match, very close and it’s back and forth, I try to add people and have never had one accept, not once. I understand they assume I’m adding them to swear at them, but it’s sad that that’s the mentality by default. I would love to continue to play against someone where it’s anyone’s game.

[@maaramori3404]

Some of us don't have time to learn matchups which you see one in 600 matches like Shaheen, Claudio, Raven or Xiaoyu

[@TerraFuu]

Funny enough, Melty Blood Lumina had the friendly match from Ranked feature you mentioned.

[@febrizey]

thats what they need in this, i fought some good 3 setters and would love if i could have fought those ppl more

[@neoconker2k8]

If i got my ass beat and couldn't do a damn thing, i have NO reason to rematch . With the new replay feature, there's NO reason to rematch

[@SuguSugux]

when i get absolutly destroy or i lose, my mindset is " is not over until the game kicks me, i will rematch you until the end of the universes if i have to" i know i can get atleast 1 win!.

[@curtisjackson4090]

The best thing..... *THE BEST THING* ...is when they one and done you. You get sent back to standby. You accept another match. AND IT'S THE SAME PLAYER THAT ONE AND DONE BEFORE. LMAOOOOO... man those are the BEST occurrence in fighting games for me. SF4, TTT2, VF5, SF5, T7 amd now T8.... I enjoy the hell outta rhat ish, and it never gets old. 1 and Done: Ha Ha, i got that lucky win. Glad i left and dont have to face that pla- Me: "GOTCHA, WELCOME BACK ☕".... 🤣💯💯

[@sawsebawse2000]

just cuz i outsmarted you in one match, i'm taking my dub

[@spook507]

The only condition I win and leave is when I get 0 points for winning so whats the point to keep going.

[@nekolink7167]

I personally think that people dont own me a rematch but i do like when we get a rematch and maybe insted of putting down single matches what if we promote rematch and earn more if they win essentially the win streak will earn you more then just doing 1 game and dipping. It obviously im not describing well but it my 2 cents on it

[@ChrisYoungGunn]

I don't like doing one and done unless it's a severe connection issue; but yesterday, I got wrecked by a modern Law. I was so angry, my finger slipped and left lol

[@AzureSkywalker]

I remember i was playing Street Fighter with Ed, i remember for an hour straight i got nothing but 1 and doned ,its very annoying NGL

[@memekingk373]

I think there are alot more instances of people leaving for emergency reasons than whats credited for but I agree with you on the point of the mentality of willingly leaving a set prematurely. It does no one any favors and ultimately is just making the both of you do unnecessary waiting in between games. Yes you bought the game and that does, by pure technicality, give you the right to choose to leave but youre also the one that chose the ranked mode, the mode thats supposed to be a marker of your progress and skill. Cherry picking matches is definitely lame behavior and I really dont like people justifiying it to themselves

[@frankopanklaric]

I'll leave if I want to. If I didn't enjoy the set I'm gone whether it's win or lose.

[@ryth-2401]

most people I've played against don't rematch so at this point I'm kinda used to it

[@ugmo0722]

The definition of a sore winner 😭

[@zzz8606]

I'm very competitive generally and make a point to always rematch with 2 exceptions. 1. Toxicity. Sometimes I'll stay and just be toxic back and often will win on a comeback but after a ton of toxic fights it gets tiring. 2. Lag. I try to only accept wired fights, however, if I'm stuck searching for awhile and only finding wifi I'll eventually accept a 5 bar wifi. Sadly, that 5 bar turns to 2 50% of the time when you actually get in the fight. I agree with accepting losses. It is key to getting better. I just can't bring myself to want to lock people into a fight with me or vice versa. Also, shit just happens. If they gotta go then they gotta go. It's hard to fight a nice middle place with this topic that makes everyone happy.

[@daninadine686]

What kind of character do you play, if I may ask

[@RealMikeHollow]

Feng Wei

[@daninadine686]

@@RealMikeHollow ahh ok, strong very strong 👌 i play leroy But I can't get any further from Garyu

[@altafahmad8578]

try dragunov he will easilly carry you out of red ranks@@daninadine686

[@flerphead]

How ranked isn't forced b.o 3 is mind-boggling

[@GhoulWorldOrder]

I remember having this same problem with SF6. It's annoying as hell