One Gun Platform Vs Multiple Gun Platforms

[@andreszwei]

NAVYMAN, curious where you stand on this topic 9 years later.

[@navyman8903]

Same place. I'm too far gone personally, but I have collapsed my platforms down to 3 45acps, and 4 9mms. All based off of magazines.

[@andreszwei]

If I could’ve talked sense into my past self, I would’ve trimmed things down. Then again, I regret every one I’ve ever sold.

[@johnmcdonald5334]

This one was really fun, great video!

[@a.joegevara3519]

Ha! You're kidding yourself if you think you're done. I love my HKs, but I shoot a Hi-power the best, like groups at 50yds! Trying to resist buying a P30...

[@zachb.6606]

Your Tier One operator voice sounds like Jocko Willink.

[@AdamerKeithski]

Cue “House of the Rising Sun”. 👌🏽 x 💯

[@GeloNegron]

Hey, bro, LMFAO, I ended subscribed like 5 videos ago. Right after I said I was. Shits hilarious, the Batman voice killed me.

[@navyman8903]

Lol thanks man.

[@kaiul2967]

"Reasons not to get into guns" - Colin Noir

[@destroyingdadxx2274]

Good advice. But how do you find the right gun without first owning and operating several? My gun journey is similar to yours. First pistol was a 1911. The I figured a had to have a 9mm so I picked up a Beretta 92fs. Then I figured I needed a more compact gun for carry so I bought a Taurus TH9c. Then I needed a higher quality carry gun so along came a Sig p229 Legion. The I figured I needed a handgun for deer hunting so I got a Ruger Blackhawk 357. Then after seeing several police shootings with 9mm where suspects drove away/ran away unphased, I decided 9mm was an ineffective caliber so I picked up two more 45 caliber pistols, a S&W 4566 and a S&W 457. After all that my favorite gun is my single stack Smith 457. The rest of them stay in my safe. Will I sell any of them? He’ll no, I love them all like children. Thanks for the video.

[@navyman8903]

Oh you're not wrong at all. It's definitely a balance that's difficult to achieve.

[@navyman8903]

It will do that. The USP 45 is just that good, and a shooter. Every time I shoot it, I get reminded of how good it is. I will never sell mine.

[@joshuasmith6346]

Do you have another channel? You sound familiar?

[@shreddinjoe]

I have the USP 9mm...it's simply just bad fuckin ass...expensive..but worth every penny...

[@navyman8903]

@@shreddinjoe They really are great guns.

[@payback_carter]

But,... IF two is one and one is none,... don't you need, like at least four or something? Because two being one, makes one not enough!

[@roboadvisor3598]

Wish I watched this before I got started. Sound advice!

[@navyman8903]

Lol me too. I was too far gone once I figured it out and still on that track.

[@roboadvisor3598]

@@navyman8903 I’ve clawed my way back into sticking with one platform (Glock) and am selling off the rest but it’s not easy and I just saw a new Usp45 in the case at my lgs😬

[@fr3d_fly351]

Wow. Navyman's 2013 operator voice is a dead ringer for Lego Batman's

[@deanster3435]

I hate being a gun nerd because then it's like pokemon, gotta collect all them sumbitches. I have prioritized the glock platform as my go-to, but I'll definitely say it's hard trying to get away from the temptation and the want to experiment.

[@PBSviaPNW]

I have watched this video probably 50 times by now. It’s an interesting discussion and I’m coming around to tapering my guns down to M&Ps - which just fit me and I shoot well

[@rondobrondo]

This video is hilarious in retrospect lol

[@kylerumsey8942]

Best video ever. I have way too many….. in the search for finding the one I shoot better. But I know which one i shoot the best already honestly.

[@BBKnls]

"That's not TIER 1 Operator as fuck!" Hahahaha, awesome!

[@BrassAddict93]

This is probably one of my favorite videos on KZbin for various reasons. Good stuff, man. 👍 Also the whole "You gotta have a 9mm cause if you don't have a 9mm, you gone die!" Was pretty hilarious lol That one earned you another sub

[@navyman8903]

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

[@MilitantX1]

I absolutely LOVE my HK's as well. I shoot the HK 45c extremely well and better than my USP's so I carry it for my EDC. I travel with 2 HK 45c's. Sure, I have the P30 series and the VP9 series and a few USP's as well BUT the HK 45c is KING to me! Great video!

[@PBSviaPNW]

Sushi roller, nice

[@MrSmith-zy2bp]

"If you don't have a 9mm you gonna die!" 🤣 That is the perfect Robert Downey Jr. Tropic Thunder voice ever.

[@lilbfrom094princeton8]

The pms cycles are different 😂

[@tonysoprano7777]

Love all the info in your video's.Sold all my other cal's. Have HK45 & HKP30,Daniele defense AR, Selling my Kimber ultra covert II, for HK45C or HK USP 45. last hand gun I can buy for a while. Have daughters Law school to help out with. If it was you!!!! Thanks again for all your help, keep up the good work.

[@navyman8903]

HK's have never let me down. I honestly am going to own only HK's, and Sig MK25's. They just run so well, are well built, and run great for me. They have never let me down. Thanks for the support, and I am glad I could help.

[@morganml3983]

Too far gone... Me too!!!

[@timewing4611]

I think you should have one or two platforms for your carry and home defense set ups. I’m super accurate with Glocks and beretta 92s, so I own multiples of both and shoot both pretty regularly. I have a beretta 92a1 with a surefire x300 I use for my bedside gun, and a regular beretta 92 I have as a back up in another spot in the house. I EDC a Glock 19 and also have a Glock 17 I use as a another backup in another spot in the house. I also have the triggers all set up the same way on both platforms to keep them as similar as I can. Then outside of those two platforms I have other guns to shoot for fun

[@navyman8903]

That's a smart way to go about it.

[@timewing4611]

@@navyman8903 maybe one day I’ll replace the Glocks with USP’s. That seems to be my new favorite, just wish they were cheaper lol

[@tumbleweedtodd]

@ 12:30 wisdom. Thanks for the videos

[@navyman8903]

Thanks for watching.

[@SolidBren]

Thanks for helping me solve this “issue” for myself. Definitely need to test an HK45 and a USP45 sometime. Heard nothing, but great things about them.

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Boy that's wise what you said about possessions. They really do own you.

[@Guts_6664]

Can you do a striker vs hammer fire handgun comparison and why you would choose one over the over in a boogaloo Situation?

[@SortoMario89]

It's been years since I watched this video, it was nice to revisit. Lol because of this of video I started my usp 45 platform/collection.

[@tyrellandonmorris07]

Love the video. I've been thinking about his same topic recently also and you do a great job explaining your point of view. I do have a question kinda off topic. I'm looking at getting an hk in 45acp. Kind leaning towards the usp, but hk45 feels awesome. is the hk45 worth the extra money and really 250$ better of a gun? The 12 round capacity is the biggest selling point to me on the usp.

[@navyman8903]

+Tyrel Morris Honestly the USP 45 and the HK45 are staples for me. I run them both well and love them equally. Here's the video I did on the subject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2Kcc2eqjayifM0

[@j.h.17]

+DevilDolphin any chance of a link to the scar aka. p30 l videos??

[@navyman8903]

+Johnny Hartmann I'll pm them to you here shortly, and I've got a new video or two coming up with Scar down the line.

[@j.h.17]

+DevilDolphin Thank you. I will be looking forward to that. really circling the p30L and truly value your opinion.

[@navyman8903]

+Johnny Hartmann kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSXn3-ipsqcgZY

[@EN2HAMMSTER]

Good video. Sounds like you need to decide if you are a collector or a shooter. I guess I fall into the shooter category. I run and train with only one platform and one caliber for me that is the SIG platform. I have two German made P226s that I train with and a P239 that I carry. Very, very similar to the P226s same sights, same control surfaces and same caliber and same trigger and it is easily replaced if I were to lose it in a court case.

[@ajfam871]

Im not sure which video of yours has the most views but this my favorite one. Ive seen it at least 4 times

[@navyman8903]

Well thanks. I enjoyed putting it together. Thanks for watching.

[@tonysoprano7777]

Went to pick up my USP 45 today, saw the HK45 Tactical,Kept thing about this vid, and held it. Don't have to tell you which one I came home with, USP will have to wait. Thanks for all the great info

[@navyman8903]

I feel your pain man. They are both great and hard to beat. I love the HK45, I can't wait to get the Tactical to the range myself.

[@kylevantassel7259]

Well of course there are no wrong answers here . BUT , I come at it with a slightly different perspective.If you are a 1911 person you will understand this when I say I think I have more of those than I own good socks . If you are into that platform they just seem to find their way to you like magic . This satisfies my gun cravings , if I feel the jitters coming on I can always throw another 1911 at it and sooth the inner crack head. But as far as getting down to business is concerned.... You hit on something when you mention finding the platform that you shoot the best . Thats a complex statement hidden behind easy words... Most people find the platform they think they should have and then try to shoot it well . That works ok but until you venture out and try others you wont know that there may just be a model that clicks with you and makes you throw rocks at that one youve been struggling with. Ive had 1911s my entire life , some very upscale brands as well and I love them . My EDC is either a SIG P220 elite carry SAO or the HK 45CT...... Why ? Because I shoot them better and thats just a fact....Not just a little better but a ton better.... I find that both of these pistols is better at follow ups and multiples....Now you 1911 guys out there dont get all twisted.... Im with you all the way and dont dog my 1911s , I shoot them well , probably well enough . But you simply cannot ignore taking a gun out of a box brand new and shooting the first mag better than youve shot your 100th mag in the other platform..... I choose two differing platforms for my EDC simply for effectiveness . I may learn one day that one of these sucks..... I doubt it but its possible. The odds of them both sucking is slim to none....

[@stevenotto2581]

A gun is not a platform. A truck is a platform. A plane is a platform. A ship is a platform. A gun is not a platform.

[@neanders2]

Funny, this is an old video now, but man it's screamin' at me! I'm in the process of trying to consolidate my handgun collection, too many that I don't shoot. Leads to a "collection" yes but not proficiency. But man it's tough, I love guns too much!!!

[@navyman8903]

I'm still fighting this very battle every day. For 9mm, my P226 LEGION is dunking on everything for whatever situation I put it in. The P30L and VP9 are fighting for 2nd place, while the Gen 5 17 is right behind that. But the P226 is king of my 9mms right now. IT's hard because lots of people make great 9mms, we're not talking good, GREAT! 9mms. So it's hard to narrow it down and commit when there's so many out there that give you that same feeling. 45's are much easier for me to narrow down, but I also have a bunch of those so.....

[@michaelgrayman7614]

Glock 23 with conversion barrel making it a glock 19. problem solved. Like most .40 guys and a middle child I feel like I’m smarter than most lol😂

[@Gmar69]

This has been the Parable of a Gun Owner by the Wise Navyman8903. Thanks for watching. Everything said is so true.

[@dexm2010]

This video alone is worth a sub.

[@yukoneo]

LOL! Well said brother!

[@zboyjason]

please do another usp review and upgrade/modification video

[@navyman8903]

I'll be making a 5,000 round update here soon and I will reshoot both of those videos. I'm adding them to the list. Can't say when they'll be out, but you have my word I'll make them before the year is out.

[@zboyjason]

Awesome, can't wait. I finally was able to replace my usp with a newer one sadly and went looking for the old videos

[@thegoldenhurricane]

Have you checked out the Arex Rex Zero 1?

[@sigsoup]

strange after I bought my usp 45 a lot of my other handguns started to be sold off...I carry it every day.

[@HalfCrazy520]

I have a DA/SA .45 and a striker .45.... 10-11 rounds capacity I have a DA/SA 9mm and a striker 9mm... 16-18 rounds capacity If I'm honest, that's all I really need for handguns, so I'm selling off some. I own ZERO Glocks. Carrying a Sig 320 Compact in .45 ACP.

[@vdub5818]

Damn navyman, you gotta work on your tier one operator as fuck status. Lol

[@djstonerokk]

I just purchased my first gun... Watched your 'loaded gun in the house video'... and, with this, gets me well prepared to keep my house secured. Thank you. Also-- Thanks for keeping it light and fun.

[@oneeyedpatriot]

Thank you for your insight into this. I took note of the wide range of guns and platforms that I have recently and realized that I should have merged it down a while ago. Your point is very well represented in your smart thinking video. I like your statement at the end of your video.

[@justinm.791]

Started with a Ruger P89 then rolled into higher end 1911s. Bought my first Glock 19 and sold all but two of my 1911s which I gave to my step dad. Bought a bunch of G19s, G23's G21 G41, SW629, a bunch of CZ's, Sig 320's, 3 different variations of Beretta 92's. I was out shooting and looked at the pile of various calibers of ammo and handguns and realized how stupid it was. I sold off everything but my G19s and G23's. I bought a Gen5.5 G17 which I absolutely can shoot clover leafs with. I shoot the G17 better than any other gun. I'd sold a CZP10C but had enjoyed shooting a friend's P10F, so I bought one a couple weeks ago and have had it out several times and think I may keep it. The only handgun I want now is a full build LTT 92 Elite.

[@navyman8903]

I know man, it is pretty tough. I have to step my game up lol.

[@jesstaylor47]

Thank you so much brother and where can I find the match trigger kit at.

[@dawhitecastle]

I love this video. EXCELLENT! I am, like you, too far gone myself but its excellent advice.

[@fearnonebutone4977]

I hate that this is true because I know it is true and have spent a long time trying to justify buying more. That said, I do have two exact same P30’s, a p30L and p30sk that are all the same from sights to LEM to gray guns reset. In fact, every HK I own is light LEM with short reset, except the usp tactical which is V1. I hear there might be a “LEM hybrid” which is LEM but retains some match kit parts. This video is 8 years old and it seems like you bought a bunch since hahaha. Makes for good content.

[@navyman8903]

Yup. I was too far gone lol. But don't be like me.

[@jesstaylor47]

What is the difference between the Match kit and the LEM kit, also which one is better?

[@shreddinjoe]

I know it's just my opinion...but a Glock has no business next to HK..Yea yea!! I know Glock is a functional dependable gun...but they look like a matchbox with a trigger..HKs at least have some visual appeal..ASIDE of being one the best on the planet

[@navyman8903]

Perfect thinking there sir. I wish I could do the same. I like the P226 myself also, I love my MK25. Plus it is something for you to run if you show up at my door right?

[@kyliejohn3813]

Wait… an HK went down???

[@navyman8903]

What?

[@militantx0660]

Great video man! I own a FNX .45 and was looking for a nice conceal carry weapon. Instead of getting a 9mm, I thought about staying in the .45 cal platform by getting a .45 c. I'd save big time by buying one type of cartridge instead of bouncing back and forth. So, I'm looking into getting BOTH the M&P 45 and the M&P .45 compact for my conceal and carry. I may even look into these H&K's cause they look like they are left hand friendly. Are they?

[@ramonbenitez4093]

Great advice. A little late for me, but great advice.

[@8Soul88]

I mess with a few different platforms, and calibers. A few I could have passed on, but some for a purpose. My sig p365 SAS is my edc in the summer. It's a great pocket carry. My M&P 40c with a 3.6 barrel is my edc for winter. My H&K P30L is my bedside, and my Sig P220 legion is my weird flex at the range. I've given them roles in order to justify the amount of money I've spent lol. I totally agree with you, and had I known what I do now, I'd have a few more mags and ammo for the ones I run. Ya live and learn.

[@82lowe36id]

Excellent video and my journey has been long and expensive as well. I am currently working on condensing down to 1 platform. As of right now I have Sig (DA/SA & striker), FN (DA/SA & Striker), M&P, Walther (PPQ) and CZ (DA/SA) that all are intended for use, not collecting. This is freaking stupid. So, first thing I am trying to decide is if I want to go DA/SA or striker. From there I have narrowed it down to 3 options. DA/SA - CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical for HD and carry a CZ RAMI BD 9mm. For striker I am looking at either Sig (P320c 9mm & Subcompact x-change kit for all uses) or M&P (M2.0 5 inch 40S&W for HD & Shield9 & 45 for carry). My problem is I am like you and love guns. However, I MUST make this consolidation so I can focus my time and money on one system. I have even thought about just keeping it more simple and going either striker or DA/SA, but that still has a mix of trigger types and different over all feel between guns. The only one I can see right now is out is the PPQ M1, since I have no other handguns with paddle mag release….even though I love that gun. It is a sickness!!!

[@Itsallnyermind4]

Good vid. I agree, it's a hard trap to avoid. I decided on the 9mm because am a new shooter and I would like to get proficient with the 9mm before getting into .45's. as much as I love that H&K .45 CT. Right now it's not practical. Sigs I really like, the looks, the feel, the proven track record, they do it for me. So I got the m11-a1 in compact and soon will add the mk25 full size, both Guns share the same mags. 1 for carry & 1 for the bedside with a light on it. But wait...the HK p 30.

[@navyman8903]

Yup. That is exactly how it goes....

[@marcuscrawford585]

As someone new to firearms, this video was incredibly helpful...and absolutely hilarious. It's nice to know I'm not "gon' die" without a 9mm.

[@willy4869]

So i need to buy another C2....shucks. Only thing killing me is the cost per mag. I could buy 3 glock mags or 6 magpul mags for 1 sti mag.😂

[@jesstaylor47]

Hey Navyman I need some help, I might be getting the HK USP 9mm full size. I was curious to see if there is any upgrades you recommend? Also do you know if the M2 will fit on it?

[@Eeedr956]

That’s y I only have one brand which is Glock

[@ACYT298]

Well were always all done buying guns till the next newest gun comes out lol

[@navyman8903]

I would do that one, but that is me.

[@frankgonzalez3822]

I subscribed because of this video. I have a similar story.

[@MDC2020]

NavyMan permission to steal the quote " Operator as Fuck" hahaha diggin your channel.

[@timpczman]

great advice in this video!

[@navyman8903]

Yes the M2 UTL will fit, and I would only look at the Match or LEM or Hybrid LEM trigger for it. Night sights if it doesn't have them already. But all and all, it is a great gun, you will be very happy with it.

[@navyman8903]

It is indeed, and in NJ I would probably do the same thing.

[@alexg36c]

I messed it all up i got a p30 didint shoot it so well yet im very new i took it to the range only 3 times. I got a mk23 shot it once, i shot it so well but its kind of too big for certain shooting disciplines so now im looking at getting something that shoots similar but here in canada the usp45t is rare ): if not what else shoots as well like the mk23?!

[@navyman8903]

Thanks man. I work on it.

[@navyman8903]

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[@navyman8903]

I feel you there, we have both already fallen to the dark side on this one. I know your safe is heavier than mine, but after I get to texas, I am sure we will be neck and neck.....

[@navyman8903]

Thanks man.

[@jesstaylor47]

Great video once again.

[@nobodysreview6137]

Funny thing is shooting different guns makes you a better shooter, when you find that one gun all the practise from the other guns transfers over, its like that with guitars too, I played Gibsons for years and one day started playing a Fender Strat and switched over and the Strat was so much easier to play and felt amazing, Took me 15 years of shooting to get to double to single action semi auto being the best set up but for a few years i shot nothing but revolvers and surprise, that double action shot doesnt bother me at all and i prefer it, the transition to single action seems so efortless after the first shot it feels like so easy and you just cant mis. HK USP 40 and Sig P 220 is what i'm shooting now and i never would of thought that 10 years ago. I kinda want a USP 45 but i feel the 40 helps my shooting for the same reason as playing the Gibsons, its just harder to shoot but i can still shoot it great though. The P220 is almost like cheating 😎

[@gypsymanjeff2184]

Where to get ..LED upgrade???oh n well SAID

[@natani___7666]

Started with the HK USP and staying with it. Have a stainless and a tactical .45 so far. Next I’m going for a 9mm Tactical and then a standard .45 with night sights.

[@Itsallnyermind4]

Do I really need to add the p 30 ? No but damn I really like it. Not easy.

[@jesstaylor47]

Your Welcome anytime brother.

[@Italy42180]

Takes a long time to develop true muscle memory (20000 repetitions if i am not mistaken), having multiple platforms definitely complicates and lengthens the process. Its nice to have a duplicate but you did buy HK so it will most likely last a long time.

[@dawhitecastle]

good batman voice at 1:50...or movie preview guy

[@07Kimo07]

I say everyone should only have a maximum of two guns! One for your right hand and for a very, very, very rare occasion, one for the left (should you need two guns at the same time)! I will argue with you all day that you don't need the rest when you only have two hands to shoot with. Separate your wants from your needs. Buy Ammo instead or spend your money on training and training accessories. Master those two guns and you'll be covered.

[@jesstaylor47]

You are awesome!!!

[@RayfulM5]

Just keep them all and buy more

[@robosdrumworld]

I’m a H&K fan boy!!!

[@sunnycat69]

im might pic up a usp 45C on a trade o_O for my mossberg

[@Frankdubbsfpv]

Hah. Don't we all wish we could go back in time and tell our idiot younger selves that you didn't need so many. I stopped my self after getting one of each. Full size 9mm. Full size 45acp. A 1911. A compact 40. A revolver. And a .22.

[@sunnycat69]

& you know you love the 40. bro don't lie

[@ajfam871]

I currently debating the same topic. I have a G19(gen4) and love it. I want a 45acp and am looking at the G21. But I want a SA/DA hammer fired pistol (Sig P220 and P226) obviously I don't have a ton of money so I will have to only have a few I'm thinking of going Sig. But after your videos. I considering the HKs. Uggghhhh this sucks. Thanks funny topic.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

USP 9x19mm USP .40 S&W USP .45 ACP Plus compact versions if needed. *OCD Issue Solved* *Minimalist achievement unlocked*

[@navyman8903]

^ Agree 100%

[@justintime4072]

You got my number

[@user-lg4zm5nj8t]

Easy.. Sig.

[@johnerickson3336]

Man I wish I only had 1 gun. But I love them all so I know I would miss them if I sold them off.