One Mystery about every HoloEN Member!

[@ColsenYoutube]

Wait... I litterly just noticed that Ame even had the Stopwatch as a child (its even in the clip i used, me blind i guess) That just makes the whole thing even weirder... ALSO JOIN THE DISCORD: discord.gg/2FAFbK4Jap

[@randyfulcher1470]

if i had a guess it could be kronii saw young ame trying to mess with time and out of worry that she might make a unstable time machine gave ame the time watch so she wouldn't make one herself! and as much as you could say "why did kronii not just stop ame or get rid of her" one i don't think stopping ame would be possible she's to stubborn and two kronii both likely wouldn't want to harm a child and harming ame would almost definitely screw the timeline up! i mean its just a theory and theres still many ways it could be done but that one would tie up any of the mysteries i saw-

[@ColsenYoutube]

Good shout! 🤔

[@iamGriffy]

@@randyfulcher1470 I was thinking something similar, that Kroni wanted to prevent Ame's machine possibly screwing up the timelines.

[@yoman8027]

Well, maybe it wasn't the shame stopwatch.

[@Copperdoll1]

I honestly thought ame just stole it from kronii😭

[@AJarOfYams]

I believe Ina and Shiori are in the same camp: they were human until they encountered the *Ancient One* directly and indirectly, respectively

[@adamaulia1945]

Ina met one Eldritch God face to face. Shiori learnt of the Old Gods, amongst other thing that actually would brought her to the prison, by unknown means.

[@itzuuki]

I'm pretty sure Ame stole the stop watch cuz everytime kronii ask about it ame dodges the question or try to runaway

[@ZyphisV]

Yeah I was about to point out the same thing. It's been heavily implied, since Ame self inserted the time traveler lore herself, that the time watch "was stolen" and Kronii's just been kind of lazy or unconcerned about getting it back.

[@ddmaster08]

Some things i know are: LIiz has said multiple times that she is indeed only a human, however, she also said that The only reason she did not caotured advent yet is because their job is to monitor them. And only attack if they do something criminal. So she is probably at least as strong as nerissa. Since it was her target. About raora, her role is to gather information, and her god eyes can see anywhere on the universe, so i assume that when it comes to fighting, her strenght is not on direct combat, rather in preparation and planning. She would propably study fuwamoco and learn how to defeat them before the battle even starts.

[@avsbes98]

I'd assume that for Calli the answer is similar to how death works in the Runeterra (LOL) Universe in the form of Kindred: She guides those that come with her willingly gently and swiftly and brutally hunts down and lacerates those that resist her when their time has come.

[@avsbes98]

Also Cecilia mentioned that she served Justice even before Justice was Justice, so she certainly wasn't created specifically to assist them. IIRC it was even mentioned that she's by far the oldest of them all.

[@avsbes98]

Liz stated during her Debut (iirc) that she's a normal human. Now, how factual that statement is is questionable as most normal humans don't project a flame out of their chest and travel across multiverses...

[@avsbes98]

For both Liz and Ina i'd assume that they were born as normal humans, but kind of "ascended" through contact with some high power - that being the Ancient Ones for Ina and for Liz possibly the Gods?

[@avsbes98]

My personal theory about your question for Raora is that Liz expected Fuwamoco to simply be chasing Raora back to the Justice Headquarters (or some other prepared trap) because they want to eat her tail.

[@infamouse9263]

⁠@@avsbes98wait when has Cecilia mentioned serving justice before it became what it is now? not doubting you just want to know

[@corrinflakes9659]

IRyS as a nephilim is probably working under the Devil May Cry definition of a nephilim.

[@Kenshi_2900]

2:35 "Are emotions that powerful?" *Stares in Warhammer*

[@alok-kfpwahkingdeliveryguy3420]

The answer why everyone didn't remember that world ending accident with ina is because of the "forgetti beam" Hahahha

[@autismandgaming4532]

I wanna know what happened between FUWAMOCO & Pero to make them hate each other. Rewind 2000 years & Pero was working as the twin's mentor, but now they're out of the cell we see "Peroccino the great" doubts Them & is more interested in sightseeing everywhere, while Fuwawa & Mococo always call him Nasty & treat him like a punching bag. What's the deal with that?

[@waddles8927]

The reason Fuwamoco got jailed is because I quote they were a "pain in the godly behind" Basically they got jailed for being a pain in the ass

[@krisfaust909]

FUWAMOCOOOO!

[@TrenkaiLeand]

speculation and theories for some of the points i came out with out of boredom. Bijou's power (theory): Bijou is just the remain of a more powerful being, that would explain why her design is full of gem shards (and yes, the "candy feet") she was lured with cake because they just needed to find her rather than defeat her again after that fight, she wasn't technically defeated (thinking that was Kaela's fault is quite funny if you ask me). Calli (speculation): she said "kill people" just as a way to referene the usage of her scythe, freeing the souls from the terrenal plain. Fwmc (speculation and theory): thanks to Pero and the second name "abyssgard", we know that both were trained for being guardian dogs of the gates of hell, but Pero being labeled as her pet now suggest that he had power over both before, specially if we consider that he threatened both girls with ripping her tails off, so, Fuwawa and Mococo could have broke the rules, ran away from work, and provoked a ruckus (some people say that Nerissa was able to go to the human world due to that, idk what to think but i find the idea funny, she is a demon after all, that also would explain the house in the middle of nowhere in the 3d debut) and why unlike the rest of advent both had plenty of liberty in prision, plus, they are way more chaotic that people give them credit for in the lore (thanks to hologra) now add demon claws, inhuman strenght... yeah probably they just wanted both girls away, both escaped with Shiori, Nerissa and Bijou out of boredom after all. Irys (speculation): Yeah, in the bible demons are fallen angels and the nephilims the offspring of those angels and humans, in fact the word "demon" means "lesser god" mostly making reference to this creatures otherwordly powers, nephilims are demons Nerissa (speculation): In hologra she destroys the earth by accident just because she was too hyped, you know, without even trying... so, you can know espculate a little bit better how much power she had before, lol ( as a side note, Biboo said that the strongest in Advent is Shiori, idk if he considered Nerissa with both horns, horn wich Shiori knows where it is... As an additional note ¿Doesn't that change the whole powerscale? that or Justice is just very competent (or delusional enough) to handle Advent. Shiori: it's a human with a lot of stress as far as we know, it's easier to say what we know than what we don't

[@chito2701]

HoloEN lore is too complex and rich they need to make an anime about this.

[@masser4555]

You can't do us saplings like that man! Maybe one thing i'd like to know about Fauna is the extent of her powers - like she supposedly restored the entire earth and all of its life after Sana destroyed it which is an insane and incomprehensible feat, but hasn't really shown or spoken about anything nearly as powerful since. It makes you wonder how powerful she really is and how she'd really stack up against the other counsel members if we knew the full extent of her power.

[@Arcomagus]

I like to think that she can theoretically wield the full power of nature to do things like that, but actually manipulating nature like that is kind of unnatural so she greatly prefers limiting herself to mortal witchcraft and herbalism.

[@KABLAMMATS]

All of council is basically a god, a power that we cant comprehend. Myth and council basically just like advent and justice, Myth come first and then Council is there to watch them

[@iamGriffy]

Perfect question to ask about Ceci, especially as it's her birthday. This was along the lines of what I was thinking after watching her birthday. Is there only one Cecelia? is the mimic real? immerGold? ImmerRed? (obviously they are not canon but they could be ...) And if not why create only one? As she stopped doing her chores, why not replace or reprogram her? Other than, that she is just too adorable Also for Raora, send a cat to bait the Bau Baus, both of them love cats for various reasons

[@avsbes98]

If we take the Birthday Adventure as at least semi-canonical i'd say it's implied that there are at least multiple CC personalities, if not also multiple CC Bodies.

[@lianaverwood9810]

​@@avsbes98 If Anything would be Canonical about the Birthday Story, it's the fact that there is indeed a Soul inside of Cecilia's Automaton Body, powering it and keeping it Functioning. *Theory Time:* As the Justice Organization was originally formed to enact the Judgement of the Gods, a Device powered by Unwilling Souls would probably not sit too well with them, so (under the assumption they weren't Corrupt) they'd have supposedly only agreed to this Automaton being made if someone had Openly Volunteered to have their Soul Transplanted for this purpose without Manipulation. Whoever Cecilia was back then was likely a devout follower of the Gods and willingly sacrificed herself to serve them, but over Time and as Justice became more Self-Serving, and her Job much more Mundane and Slave-Like, she began wondering if Justice were even Working for the Gods anymore. Then the news came out that the Gods had Vanished, and while Justice stayed Active for quite some time, they eventually Disbanded and Cecilia had the Time and Freedom to think about it all... Though Why she chose to Accept Elizabeth's proposal to be part of the Reimagined Justice is unstated, Cecilia's current Personality is the Polar Opposite of someone who should be part of a Group standing for Justice - someone who believes her Gods she gave her Soul for have Abandoned her, and made her a Tool for Mortals to abuse, so with her newfound Freedom she seeks to have All the Power over those who'd seek to Use her... In this sense, Cecilia only has One Personality: One that only wants Justice for Herself, at the expense of Everyone Else.

[@Kiriemy]

She is magearna of hololove

[@Zenith-zb8op]

I’d also want to know how exactly Cici’s violin transforms into a spear

[@iamGriffy]

@@Zenith-zb8op if they ever animate this ... 🔥

[@xBursx]

I think Irys said in a recent stream that the definition of a nephilim is different in the hololive universe that`s why it`s half angel half demon, i think it`s the karaoke stream.

[@lerneanlion]

After watching this video, I cannot helped but wondering that Princess Biboo ended up being captured led to the Jinn being defeated by the Lucifer-led angels' army dispatched by God. When she was by their sides, the Jinn were most likely on the verge of victory against the angels. And since they know that direct confrontation is not the answer, they lured her out with a cake and capture her instead. With that said, I think we may have to look outside of the box to get the answers for ourselves.

[@barfrost007]

Regarding FuwaMoco, their design and the design of their homeland from their 3D always gave me Hati and Skoll vibes, so I wonder if their lore reason for being locked away is similarly fashioned as some sort of attempt at averting whatever Holo's version of Ragnarok is. Bijou fighting gods isn't that strange if you take a more ancient view of how gods work: Gods need human worship to function in one way or another for a lot of older traditions, so if Bijou is capable of drawing large numbers of people away from that, she'd be effectively stealing the god's power and possibly threatening their existence, depending on how you view the worship/divinity dynamic. Mumei is probably simply a sort of spiritual/supernatural manifestation of the concept of civilization, or possibly of humanity itself, in much the same way Thanatos is the concept of death in Ancient Greek mythology. If so, that may or may not make her technically divine in origin, depending on how you construe divinity. Also, I'm pretty sure Gura is indeed supposed to be related to Poseidon, if not his daughter, then maybe granddaughter, or niece, or something, based on what we saw from the Minecraft RP: 1) She stole her trident, an apparently powerful and important artifact in Holoverse that is also heavily associated with Poseidon, showing she knew where it was and had access to it 2) The trident belonged "that geezer", which infers a familiarity with said person, and that said person is not young (Poseidon is the middle brother of the original 3 male Greek gods and is usually depicted as being at least 40s-50s) 3) She was shown to sit in a position of high rank at the table and perform what appears to be official paperwork and mediation between factions.

[@yoman8027]

I assume Shiori is a human who, thanks to her role as an archiver, found several occult knowledge that allowed her to gain supernatural powers and extend her life.

[@ChatNoir-999]

Some theoretical answers Amelia/Kronii: Maybe after she used it but malfunctioned along the way causing her to be hurled across Space and Time by some miracle Kronii found Ame and lent her the stop watch or imbued it with her powers considering Ame has it since childhood so that Ame could go home it could also be the reason why Kronii isn't really in a hurry to get it back because she lend it to Ame out of kindness in the first place. Bijou: The reasonable explanation is Biboo doesn't actually have the raw power to go toe to toe but her specific abilities allows her to go against them and even pose a threat Emotional as Concept should be pretty powerful specially against sentient beings since every sentient being has to have it in some capacity the Gods probably didn't realize how much Authority they gave her what could've happened was Biboo turned the Gods against one another causing a civil war similar to the one in her lore vid until she was eventually stop by the cake and the Gods not wanting to destroy her because Plot reasons (or maybe destroying Biboo will affect humanity in some way) imprisoned her instead at least that my take on it. The Biboo explanation is that she just went in there GOD OF WAR style. Baelz: In the C'thulhu Mythos there's this something called the Ultimate Gate which is unlocked by a Key this Gate leads into the Void which where she technically comes from BAE being an incarnation of Chaos has to have some connection to this i think i actually an Incarnation of an Outer God and is Hololive's version of Yogg-Sothoth him or her in this case being the Gate Keeper the Gate And the Key and is actually the one keeping the Ancient Ones atBAE. FuwaMoco: Considering Fuwawa's personality she probably went on a Killing Spree like an actual Hell Hound and Mococo was just tagging along some Guardian of smiles they are they're literally eating one of the most therapeutic animals as snacks (I'm joking btw). Gura: (Answers are based on Plato's account) Question: Is she Related to Poseidon and Is she his Daughter and is she Royalty Answer: Probably. Poseidon is known to be very Frisky as a God and has a ton of children but Gura has denied this so the most likely thing is that she is a descendant like a Granddaughter or even further down the line. According to Plato the founders of Atlantis were Gods with its ruler being Poseidon's son Atlan Greek Gods are know children with animal or animal like features and since gura is most definitely not 100% Human this would she has God blood in her so yes she Could be a Royal or at least a Noble with a high enough social standing to access the Trident which is Typically used as a symbol for Royals in Atlantis since it's also the weapon that their Patreon God uses that would also mean that Gura is technically a Demigod. In conclusion Gura is probably Related to Poseidon but not as his Daughter but a Direct descendant instead and has Royal-High Nobility status That or She's a Sea Nymph. Ina: Typically the Necronomicon contains Knowledge about the Outer Gods and How to summon them Ina might've accidentally summoned One as to who Stopped it could BAE since her role seems to be the Order In Chaos and that thing about the Ultimate Gate i talked about. IRys: One way to explain IRys is that one of her parents is a full fledged angel and the other one is a Cambion(human/demon) this would allow her to be a Nephilim and half demon at the same time so technically she's a triple hybrid which apparently is also a thing in IRL as for the Fallen being demons that was the case at first but when other deities from other religions got demonized by the church a distinction had to be made. Mumei: I think rather than being Civilization herself Mumei is more similar to the Scribe in the Bible where he just records the deed and history of humanity. Raora: Ponderings that or Raora is the Bait because kittens Shiori: She's Shiori

[@ColsenYoutube]

ChatNoir popping off as always!

[@ChatNoir-999]

@ColsenKZbin Thanks you as well

[@Mati-kun]

Oh hi, Im new here and have some theories. 1. I belive Mumei is an archiver, but unlike Shiori, Mumei records human history or specifically important events in history of civilizations, like the sinking of Atlantis and the Black Plague, witch we see in the music video in her song. 2. Liz's flame, I think the flame is connected to Nerissa. ERB's blue flame is the same shade of blue as the glowing light in Rissas horn. The color is not the only thing that's similar, we know that Elizabeth was sent to deal with Nerissa, the battle would be the moment in which Rissa's horn broke, at that moment Liz subdued the power that was set free and took is as her own in form of the blue flame and lets not forget that their powers work as opposites. Nerissa was said to drive people mad with her singing, so basically she debuffed her enemies and after Liz took part of Risa's power she transformed it to counteract her debuffs, so that Liz buffs her allies with her singing. And this could also explain why they are so attracted to each other, it's because Nerissa subconsciously feel her power from Elizabeth and that said fragment of power that resides in her pushes her towards Risa, to become whole again. 3. Raora vs FUWAMOCO (this one is a joke, but still could be something). Raora has her God Eyes, thats one and second, she created the Chattini and by now the Chattini have a far more oconvluted and tangeled lore than annyone in Hololive, so whos to say that she didn't create something that helped her in the fight. 4. The big one for last, Ame. I may not get everything right becouse I also dont really remember everything, as far as I know Ame played with her lore heavily to the point she pulled other in and established her lore. Amelia Watson #1337, the Ame we all remember, love and miss, was not "our" Ame. As far as I know Amelia, the Ame from our timeline was the one who stole the pocket watch from Kronii, gave it later on to Ame #1337 and drew her last breath... Ame #1337 confirmed Amelia's passing in one of her streams, Kronii during a birthday stream asked her "where did you get that watch?" and not "give me back the wach" implying that she knows that Ame #1337 is not the Ame that should be in this timeline, Ollie, more specifically Olivia, Ollie's counterpart from a different timeline also confirmed that Ame #1337 is originally from her and not our timeline. So the thing that interests me the most in Ames lore is, what was the "Cataclismic event" that our Ame faced that led her to steal and pass on the pocket watch and ultimately leading to her demise. The thing I want to know is Kiara Alter, the one who took our Kiaras place? Is she a one of Kiaras former lives, is she from a different timeline like Ollie and Olivia, who send the letter, was she summoned , had the commet something to do with it, whats the LORE?! Thank you for the video.

[@protato4034]

Good theories!

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

The "Cataclysm" was Myth's Bad End, but in a version where Ame got to the Good End timeline instead of the projector.

[@-ZH]

One mystery about every holoEN member (except fauna)

[@ColsenYoutube]

You always have something to complain about don't you? 🤔

[@randyfulcher1470]

also with cecilia im pretty confident she wasn't made for justice but after her creators were likely killed she was later found by justice- i could be incorrect but that seems like what it is! given apparently i missed something about liz traveling though damn multiverses so who bloody knows-

[@EnderPryde]

Regarding Fuwamoco: I don't really think its all that serious for them? From the Breach MV, they seem to just be vibing - not overly happy, but more like a dog excited to be let out into the yard. Based on Shiori's sinister, knowing smile, Biboo's worried expression, and Nerissa's death glare, it seems like they're aware of what the prison is and what escaping it means, while Fuwamoco come off as being used to the whole "locked up and then let out" thing. So that seems more just like their 'we got rowdy around humans' makes total sense - they didn't hurt anybody, but they were being overly excited and needed to be put in the cage for the (metaphorical) night.

[@lianaverwood9810]

*FUWAMOCO* are Well Aware of the Seriousness of their Incarceration, as they have repeatedly claimed that they were held in this (Read: MAXIMUM SECURITY, 'INESCAPABLE') Prison for *at least 2000 Years* - not once mentioning they were Ever let out for any amount of Time during that Period. Whatever they were Imprisoned for _had to have been Disastrous enough to Warrant such a Punishment,_ and not just be for rampant Destructive 'Playing'... and *I came up with Something that'd Fit...* Remember _that silly Lore about a Disease called_ *'BAU BAU Byou'* _that Matsuri supposedly caught?_ Well Lore is still Lore, and *the Incurable and potentially Deadly* nature of the disease that they explained for it is a P@ndem!c waiting to happen, _especially if a Strain emerged that could infect the usually-Immortal Gods!_ That Disease, if FUWAMOCO carried a Strain like that, *would Definitely qualify for Permanent Quarantine in The Cell if an Immortal had become infected by the Disease* - and we can potentially ascertain that FUWAMOCO have a Strain like this as *Matsuri is often seriously referred to as a "GOD" by those within HoloLive.* Not a God by the same Status as the Elder Gods that sentenced FUWAMOCO to The Cell, but enough to consider as Evidence for this Lore Theory _as the Information was quite Intentionally introduced through Her..._

[@DeliriumFatalis]

as im aware, ame found the time watch, also, this is a constant in every timeline, and that is the reason of the Ame wars, the fist 1 was good Ames vs bad Ames, and the second one, was Ames vs kronni

[@tealeyesdragon2917]

Ina's almost destroying the earth might be a referance to "Myth's Bad End" by Mazumaro. Its an amazing animation that got a hug amount of traction a while back. Basically Ina gets taken over by the ancient ones and the rest of myth tries to stop her. Its amazing.

[@squallphin]

On my head was omega who gave to Ame her clock and hired her to investigate the rest of Myth to ensure they joined Hololive, why? Well that is the question

[@lavender_cat_]

Ame isn't a normal human, she's British 😌

[@Tubewatcherdude]

I always head canon-ed Ame yoinked that stopwatch right under Kronii’s nose for the lols By the by it’s been explained that the continuity of the ENigmatic streams are different than the original lore of the girls. For example ENigmatic Ina being a patient grim reaper versus HoloEN Calli’s “just kill the bastard” style of reaping she claims to have. So it’s safe to rule out some stuff

[@dudeguy1894]

A few of my theories: Kronii saw Ame's time machine and realized it was too rough and dangerous, so she gave her the stopwatch as a safer tool. Although it's also been implied that Ame actually stole it from Kronii. Biboo probably defeated the gods by manipulating their emotions, per her title "The Jewel of Emotions". Which would explain why it was easier to trick her with a cake rather than fight her directly. Being the embodiment of chaos, Bae's key is probably a literal "key to the universe", and using it would cause the universe to fall into chaos. She probably keeps it on her person so that it doesn't fall into the wrong hands. Calli doesn't directly "kill" people. When she visited Ame for the first time it was because she was about to die, and Calli was supposed to bring her soul to the afterlife. When Calli talks about "killing", it's probably just a euphemism for her actual job. According to her debut stream, she worked for Justice even before they were officially founded. My theory is that she was a maid or something and became sentient later. There's a popular theory that Liz's flame represents magic that she stole from Nerissa's broken horn. Liz has actually denied this though, so who knows? Gura's ENreco lore video shows her dealing with a lot of paperwork, so I'd assume she's royalty, or at least some kind of high-ranking nobility. Ina is human, but coming into contact with the Ancient Ones turned her into a sort of superhuman. The actual meaning of "nephilim" is debated. Some sources say they're giants, some say they're half-angel/half-human, etc. IRyS's status as a half-angel/half-demon nephilim is probably just an interpretation of the latter. Kiara may be more than *just* a phoenix. Her age being "eternal" might imply that she's a literal deity or a personification of life. Rather than civilization, Mumei probably represents humanity as a sentient race, differentiating her from Fauna representing the "natural" world. Nerissa probably did lose her demonic powers too, since we've never seen them from her. Shiori is similar to Ina, some kind of superhuman.

[@Kiriemy]

Ame from different timeline knows what happen with Ina so she gave the watch to the timeline that she sure all of them survive

[@ollypa7062]

I have one mystery about Fauna. Why is she called fauna(animal) when she has a flora(plant)-theme.

[@KGH3000]

She's not meant to be just plants, she represents all of nature, flora and fauna. Or more accurately she represents all of life/biology.

[@ollypa7062]

@@KGH3000 All of nature? The only fauna thing about her is her name, her looks are just flora themed with flower, leaves and two fake horns made of twigs. And she got no fungus part at all. She doesn't look life themed but just plant themed. (I'm just slightly disappointed that she got no mushroom themed outfit and animal themed outfit yet. She could have some really cool outfits with horns/antler or mushroom horns, and with different colored hair.)

[@KGH3000]

@@ollypa7062 Well I mean her lore not her model but yeah. Her goth outfit has a skull with antlers which is animal but I can't think of much else.

[@terrykusanagi3849]

From what we were taught at ENReco, Gura is a random girl who stole Poseidon's fork. In Don't fear death, they say that Calli feels when someone should die and kills them, it's her decision. BUT, in ENReco, they say that her is only in charge of collecting souls, so it is a bit contradictory.

[@SweetKscam]

IRL Queen Elizabeth had a sister named Nerissa whom was send to asylum in teenage years. Nerissa and Elizabeth

[@kos2919]

for Mori I was wondering about her older lore and the recent EnReco lore. In the original she took a break from reaping to focus more on doing rap and streaming. But in EnReco she literally rebelled against Death and don't want to reap souls anymore. Is EnReco lore canon or it's just a part of what if? Because Mori and Death seems chill with each other so it's weird to see her suddenly rebel against him.... it?

[@kos2919]

Bijou: The thing is, there might be levels of deities in Holoverse. Bijou might be considered small/low level deity and her rivals are on the same level. In her 3D debut stream it was set in her old destroyed church. So it seems that she also has followers before her arrest. Also, you can make an interesting video about Hololive power levels.

[@IILMKE]

if i had to guess i would say Raora would be able to lure FUWAMOCO in by just being a cat

[@davidmendez8306]

Calli definately kills people btw and she loves the process. In her debut room she has a bunch of sharp or blunt weapons on her wall and she also sings/raps about how guns are too easy a method to kill and no one having an appriciation for the classics these days

[@holonerd13]

A theory about Liz that I've heard tossed around (however questionable it is) is that she's the one who broke off Nerissa's horn and possibly ate it to give her powers

[@randyfulcher1470]

im pretty damn sure those are just dino shoes but it is gigi so-

[@kos2919]

I believe that Ame and Kronii relationship is like cat and mouse but it seems that Kronii let Ame escape everytime because it became so much fun for her. She became more active and actually talk more with her fellow council members. This is why Kronii sounds so broken up when she was at Ame's Aquarium. Ame felt more like a friend for her now but she's gonna leave for another timeline now.

[@cread13]

For ame the stopwatch was likely turned into a time travel device after she met kronii during her tine travel experiments. For what reason we dont know but likely the stopwatch was an important thing to her so it was chosen to house the time powers. For fuwamoco if u watched any of holo gta that would explain pretty well why they were locked up. What ina was referenceing in the henya colab i believe is the fab video called "myth bad end" which is about ina being taken over by the enitity and the rest of myth fighting her/it to stop it from destroying the world.

[@ColsenYoutube]

Good points all around!

[@cread13]

@ColsenKZbin if u haven't seen it yet highly recommend "myth bad end" it's a great fan piece that a lot of myth has even watched themselves.

[@lianaverwood9810]

It's also the closest suggested version of the 'Cataclysm' you referred to, as far as Holomems Reactions to it go - how close is still a mystery, but it's the Best we currently have...

[@marcthesaddletankprod9777]

the reason what actually happened when ina almost ended earth. Probably someone did a "Made in heaven" to prevent that and reset the universe

[@Kiriemy]

Everyone keeps saying that ame build a time machine but they forgot that multiverse exist in EN lore so the reason why Ame have watch is because it came from different time line where somehow she got a watch from Kronii and maybe she gives the watch to another ame who still is a child because she knows she need it it the future event

[@ColsenYoutube]

Your tone is pretty judging for someone who is also just making speculations 🤔

[@Kiriemy]

I want an official manga for EN, it will a good story

[@ModHaterHD2003]

I mean there was that human handprint on that machine in Kiara's torture room maybe that's where the human employees ended up, after all KFP could also stand for Kentucky Fried People

[@angelwing9]

KFP IS PEOPLE!!!

[@kos2919]

Cici mystery: Is the thing downuder useable?

[@randyfulcher1470]

im sorry- WHEN THE HELL DID I MISS LIZ TRAVELING THROUGH BLOODY MULTIVERSES?!

[@ColsenYoutube]

She says it in the little introduction portion in her debut stream 🤓☝️

[@randyfulcher1470]

@@ColsenKZbin of bloody course-

[@blueghost4184]

She also drops casual references to other “realms” all the time in her streams, implying that they’re other worlds she’s visited. Liz is really dedicated to her lore.

[@lianaverwood9810]

​@@blueghost4184 'Realms' is also the only Term I've ever heard Liz use in her talking about her Travels, even in her Debut Stream. While possible, this Term doesn't necessarily mean that Multiversal or even Interplanar Travel is involved, though with her line of Work as Context, at least the latter Option can be somewhat Implied... As a Former High-Ranking Member of the Justice Organization, Elizabeth was a Knight that worked under the Gods, delivering their Judgement wherever they wished it - this would certainly send her to all sorts of Lands in all Corners of the World, which could be the 'Realms' she talks about. She'd also likely have to travel into the Realms of beings seeking to Destroy the Mortal World, which may not be in the same Plane as that of Mortals, so there's that too. Less likely is the chance that she'd be sent a completely different World or Reality, though not Impossible - we can't rule it out, but can safely assume against it unless directly contradicted by Liz herself...

[@deathshadow17vl52]

The thing is that most people think that Gura most question is she royalty or not? Well I got it even bigger mind bomb if she is royalty to Atlantis. Ask the question who is her dad? Well in most myth the king of Atlanta is a God of the sea a.k.a. Poseidon that would be good a demigod

[@ChaosGodEnerjak]

I, iirc, think Nephilim (or a nephal) is a half-demon and anything else, being either human or angel commonly. So I think where either half “came from” probably just the gods. I did often think why she was referred to the plural form of nephal (even if its usage is uncommon). Though I feel like that was probably just an oversight.😅 Though a cool reason could be that because she splits into her blue and purple half in her CoD MV, it’s like she’s 2 beings in one. As she was made when they just started creating things (probably even before Sana). She does come from the “Paradise” (likely some type of non-specific heaven) of sorts. It does make me wonder, since Bae is Chaos, is she the “chaos” of the dimension that soon became the universe or just the chaos of all realms. And what if IRyS? Is she comes from the Gods (and presumably wherever they possibly went when they left unless that wasn’t “the Paradise), so is she the Hope of the universe, all realms, the gods, all of the above? And although Bae was formed last, she and IRyS weren’t created like the rest of Council so is one of their concepts older? The creation of Space was aid to have been “nothing but chaos” so Nature was made, but also said to have existed since “the Genesis” but the genesis of what exactly? The universe, the space in which the universe resided before its creation or just in terms of reality?

[@Eggzdavezt]

Hey heres something i notice, in Lore nerrisa Is the only one with a confirmd family, the rest of the are orphans

[@Eggzdavezt]

Oh and ame can you do a which hologirl has a familie video

[@ColsenYoutube]

Not a bad idea 🤔

[@lianaverwood9810]

Many HoloLive Members have Confirmed Family Members, but Nerissa's one of only a few who've intergrated them into their Lore History: • FUWAMOCO have a Confirmed Mother and Father, with Peroccino being a Family Friend of their Father's, who agreed to Train them as Demon Guard Dogs to follow their Father's Profession (This part's Source is Pero, so take with a Grain of Salt). • Cecilia Immergreen's 'Father' is her Creator, a respected Inventor in the Country of Immerheim during the Times the Elder Gods existed in. Presumed Deceased. • In ENReco, Gawr Gura's Memories imply that she was likely the Descendant of the Ruler of Atlantis, though not necessarily fully Canon. The Ancestor is quite likely Presumed Deceased in either Case... • Mumei often refers to a 'Father Owl' that was the Chieftain of whatever Tribe she came from - whether she was their Biological Daughter or not is Uncertain. Her Job as an Observer of Civilization is related to this Tribe though, so they're important enough for this List. Potentially Deceased, as Mumei can't Remember how long ago she's been removed from this Tribe... That's just within the EN Branch. HoloLive JP has members like Usada Pekora, whose Mother rules a Kingdom on the Moon, and has numerous Siblings by her Account, and there's likely others I can't immediately recall. The Talents of HoloLive do include Family Members within their Lore, but they're often not because of the chances they'll eventually refer to their IRL Family Members during their Conversation...

[@web_trekker8298]

About humans in EN I believe there are 4.5 humans in EN. First is Ame, that one is pretty clear by now. Second and third have a similar story of encountering forbidden knowledge and being changed, Ina and Shiori. Fourth, I think Mumei was once human (my mystery for her is "why does she forgor?") but somehow obtained her role. So who's the 4.5? I think Liz is human, but that has a different meaning where she is from. She is from Great Exardia which seems to be a parallel to our world's United Kingdom. In the history of royalty, it was often believed that royalty was chosen by god(s) themself. Perhaps that's true in her world, and her magic was gifted to her by some higher power.

[@KingOfDepravity]

Ina gave Amelia her watch, check out one of the early detective diaries. Kronii has tried to chase her, but Ame was always out of reach~

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

Those aren't official lore.

[@caddycheon]

I clicked the subscribed button twice

[@ColsenYoutube]

Bro tricked the system

[@randyfulcher1470]

oh and i think finally- yeah no agreed what the absolute hell is shiori-

[@Yurie13]

Ame probably got the watch accidentally probably another Ame variant (#0 is gone btw) Beejoe probably fought the gods same level as Council and not the gods that created the Council because those gods are at best on par with Ancient Ones Bae having La+ key is probably one of chaotic thing one can do what if Cecilia and Roboco has relation in some form? like future humans try to recreate Ancient Automaton with science and technology thus Roboco as result? Kiara is eternal boomer lol Mumei is Guardian of Civilization but not as same level of title and power in her group like some kind of observer or recorder if Raora's god eyes has sharingan level of power then yeah she can deal with 2 physical types plus she's a beeg cat, fast and flexible Shiori is like Ina but looks like less possessed she most likely took mental damage given how unhinged she is there, no double dot this time lol

[@TheError202]

it says on the webside ... Gura is an descendant of Poseidon ... therefor royalty.

[@ColsenYoutube]

On which website?

[@aminzamri8476]

are you really fall rabbit hole?

[@walterroche8192]

Kronii & Amie.. well Amie asked Kronii "What time is it!" innocently. Kronii just rolled her eyes and said "Here this is safer.. & never say that again.." Mumei is Prometheus with amnesia who isekai'd. Our little cat.. well she's a panther and American Big Cats ARE these continents Apex Predators. Routinely out hunting entire wolf packs. Two little doggies can't compare.

[@randyfulcher1470]

how was raora able to beat fuwamoco?... colsen im pretty confident she's basically a better version of nighteye from mha and that mf had human reflexes even if well trained ones do i need to explain how she would be a incredibly difficult to beat in a fight?

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

She's closer to Oracle from DC, just with omni-vision.

[@randyfulcher1470]

@casteanpreswyn7528 hmm maybe!