ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL? Big Ten and SEC TEAM UP | Bigger Ten

Steve and Aaron discuss the harmonic convergence of a plethora of events and alliances, and why college football could be heading for even larger tectonic shifts in the near future.
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ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL? Big Ten and SEC TEAM UP | Bigger Ten #153

[@expeditionmidwest6926]

Grew up a Michigan fan but went to U of Cincinnati. I’m all for improvements and guard rails, but concerned for the little dogs. We can’t lose the pageantry, bands, and history of college football as a whole, and I worry those things will greatly diminish with a B1G-SEC monopoly.

[@dependentfanatic9684]

They will form their own championship and thrive. Fire Up Chips!

[@stevelunde5683]

Thanks fellas, I really appreciate your discussions.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

ESPN (ESEC) is falling apart, Saban retires, 2 B1G teams play in the National national championship, Ohio state is building a superteam. The SEC knows their run is over. I’m not saying they aren’t going to be good. But they know the B1G is replacing them as we speak. 5 years ago they would have never done this.

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

OSU is building a superteam?

[@ericspicer5132]

Saying Will Howard isn't much better than Kyle McCord is a take that shows a lot of boxscore watching was done with very little football watching being done. His best weapon at Kansas State was a fullback. Also, "Ohio State is pursuing a boring brand of football" by bringing in arguably the best RB in America, a really good QB, and the top QB in the recruiting class on offense and returning 8 starters from the #2 defense in America and bringing in the best safety in the country? Okay then Aaron lol

[@shanestahl8788]

That Catlin Clark dude can hoop!

[@SammyJ..]

😂

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

The NCAA needs investigated, put those in prison that have broken the law.

[@thefireshow1]

Cheaters in Ann Arbor! 😊

[@timcole8905]

I think it would kill Aaron to actually have anything good to say about Ohio State.

[@kevinpowers2959]

As it happens, there isn't anything good to say about Ohio State

[@st-xi3ys]

His boss is a michigan grad. What do you expect

[@cameronbrennemanoutdoors]

I hope everyone knows the reason it was the most watched cfb season was because it was the last truly good season of college football. Now it will still be a good sport but the regular season will be half meaningless and the game is meaningless if both are 11-0

[@alexanderpressly4072]

If players become employees could universities force the players to sign a non-compete

[@OHPeteB]

Kirk hired Tim Lester as an FU to Iowa fans by proving that there is someone worse than Brian.

[@user-de6zb9uy5l]

Who says Ohio State will have a boring offense. 3 great wr's , 2 great running backs and a good qb. With a Top Defense. It is michigan's Team with a much better offense. They won't be boring. They will run up the score on everyone and teams will have a very very hard time scoring on this defense. If these new players can gell with the returning players, this team will be historically scary good.

[@TheLwaller09]

All depends on the O-line, as we know from watching that mess in the bowl game.

[@pesci19]

Both of your lines are soft as toilet paper. See ya November 🤡

[@st-xi3ys]

Michigan will not have the better offense with all the production lost. Only 1 starter returning on offense.

[@ronfrederick9983]

Bucks absolutely NOT coping Cheatigin

[@tedryan2798]

1) Reboot segment: There is an elephant in the room! It is called upcoming NCAA sanctions! Rats are leaving the ship! They know! 2) Hoops segment: OSU a “traditional powerhouse” in the B1G????? Top 4 or 5 on occasion, but certainly not a “traditional powerhouse”.

[@berryeastbrush3672]

Ncaa sanctions ? Lol they have no power

[@pesci19]

🤡

[@pesci19]

Your a 🤡 See ya in November 🖕〽️

[@thefireshow1]

Ann Arbor is burning 🔥

[@berryeastbrush3672]

@@thefireshow1 you mean defending national champs? Ok

[@buckeye200175]

Need a dual QB …like Miller and Fields

[@dependentfanatic9684]

Didn't Ryan Day say that he needed 13 Million Dollars last year? He got what he wanted

[@st-xi3ys]

Yeah, but that was 2 years ago. I don't think we will know if it was more or less than that this year.

[@thefireshow1]

Here’s a Kleenex 😜😜😜

[@buckeye200175]

Two mega leagues …..North Stars and South Stars ….the Mason Dickson line divides the teams

[@christiansmith2104]

Dixon*

[@ronfrederick9983]

There have been NO "reports". Just some tweets to stir things up. Although that coach has nabbed way more people than osu

[@ronfrederick9983]

So Steve comments about to stir things up

[@Hassler247]

Caitlin Clark getting ridicule is such bs :/

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Fire Warde Manuel. The whole reason you hire from inside the program is to keep the continuity of the coaching staff. That was every pundits argument for retaining Moore. Yes, we'd lose Minter and Jay Harbaugh, but everyone else would stay with the program. That is not what is happening. Herbert and Elston also left. Who is next to go? Once again, Warde Manuel is an incompetent, worthless, arrogant, DEI hire and our Athletic Dept is in shambles because of him.

[@Erica-vd1gb]

Yeah be prepared for some more rich rod type seasons

[@Erica-vd1gb]

A good barometer of warde Manuel is juwan howard didn't he hire him ?? Course you know you got big time u of m alumni that do twist his arms

[@toewstokane9023]

If the new NCAA game is like modern Madden, we’re in trouble. The depth of NCAA 14 is outstanding, Madden is awful.

[@j.w.greenbaum7809]

I ‘m concerned about beer sales in college stadiums now! The number of mixed fans in the stadiums with insults being thrown around on websites…are we going to wind up like some out of control European soccer fans? Checking ID’s and limiting 2 per fan…with those thousands of people? Give me a break. The 2023 season was first time really able to watch in 6 years due to illness/deaths. All the constant ads and super hyped fans before games by Fox ANNOYING! Now with NIL,etc and no rules in place…SAD😢

[@brianmeyers9102]

emulate xichigan with a mobile qb and dynamic running backs? 2020 - Justin Fields, Trey Sermon and Master Teague; 2019 - Justin Fields, JK Dobbins and Master Teague; 2018 - Dwayne Haskins, JK Dobbins and Mike Webber; 2017 - JT Barrett, JK Dobbins and Mike Webber. Ohio State isn't emulating anyone, they're just getting back to their roots.

[@lukeskywalker4223]

It's like these guys have never watched a Buckeye game before CJ Stroud...

[@DuaneTownsend]

That was Urban Meyer. Days is trying to emulate Michigan.

[@brianmeyers9102]

@@DuaneTownsend Day ran the offense in 2018, and was the head coach in 2019 and 2020.

[@pesci19]

See ya in November 🤡🖕〽️

[@GratefulDeadPhish]

​@pesci19 as always michigan. Stay classy

[@Erica-vd1gb]

When you going stop calling it the big ten when you got 18 teams ?

[@ericspicer5132]

You know the last 3 years as a Buckeye fan have sucked. But at the same time, we got 20 years of utter domination and all we had to suffer in return was 3 years of Michigan being on top? Not a bad trade tbh. Michigan's going back into the abyss

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

With Warde Manuel as the chair of the CFP, there'll be no OSU in the 12.

[@thefireshow1]

Connor Stalions is gone. Suffer

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

@@thefireshow1 15-0, 3 B1G's in a row and a natty.

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

THE B1G SEC

[@jordanrennolds4919]

Sorry Aaron, the chiefs are the new Patriots, always getting away with horseshit

[@TheLwaller09]

It's not that hard to figure out what Day is doing. It's not "interesting", it's playing to where they'll be the best at in the upcoming year until they have another QB that's ready to take over and be elite, like the run of QB's they had for 10+ years before last season. They don't have a QB currently on the roster with ANY experience that is Stroud/Fields/Haskins/Barrett level. Sayin or Air Noland likely will be, and one of them will be the guy starting in 2025. Brown can't stay healthy and even if he could nobody really knows how good he can be or if he can even be halfway decent because he gets hurt a quarter into every game he's taken meaningful snaps. And no one knows if Kienholz can develop or be any good. You can't have that entering a year where you have to win to save your job. And a year where you HAVE to beat Michigan. Is Will Howard that much better than McCord? I don't know. But I do know he's won a conference championship and as you said he's more mobile. That will help the o-line blocking scheme, having the threat of him pulling it and taking off if they key too much on Henderson or Judkins. It also makes it easier for receivers to get open if you have to drop less guys to keep an eye on the QB. Trust me, Day wants an elite QB and they have several coming in the next few years. But the chances that any of them are ready to step in and be elite NOW are low, and he knows they have to win THIS year. So he went out and got a guy that is a blue collar, lunch pail kind of QB that's won a decent amount at this level with FAR less around him than he's going to have here. They have 2 NFL running backs and however many NFL wide receivers on their roster. All they need is for the offensive line to be decent and Howard to do what he did at K State, and they're going to win games. He doesn't have to be Stroud or Fields. He just needs to be the Will Howard of KState in an OSU jersey, and have good ball security. Day is banking on experience + some ability to run being more than adequate for this year, especially with the talent upgrade he's going to be working with, plus OH BY THE WAY, an easily preseason top-5 defense on the other side of the ball.

[@lukeskywalker4223]

Talent wise...McCord has more talent. In this case, I think its the intangibles that separates the two. Kyle McCord was too soft to be a QB at OSU. Being a QB at OSU is not for the weak as you will take slings all season long no matter how well you play. Just gotta push through it.

[@TheLwaller09]

@lukeskywalker4223 right and that's what I meant with the lunch pail, hard nosed, tough kinda of player. Watching him some the last few years at KState he reminds me of a slightly more polished version of Craig Krenzel. Not gonna blow you away with anything in particular, but the kind of kid that just makes plays a good amount of the time if he needs to.

[@lukeskywalker4223]

@@TheLwaller09 Agreed. Kinda of like in the JT Barrett mode.

[@jasonallen9428]

Comparing Kaitlyn Clark to Steph Curry in any way is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I mean, has she won any championships, national titles, or consistently appeared in finals? Let's be real here, where's the championship pedigree or hardware to back up these comparisons? Love the show, but this one feels like a reach.

[@jflannez19]

Aaron... Female Larry Bird ( Steve can help)

[@AFS67]

This is why Michigan will never be a very top tier 1 type program. Places like Georgia, Bama, OSU, etc would just reload and ride the momentum after winning a National championship; not Michigan, now it’s a rebuild. Very frustrating as a fan but it was fun while it lasted, back to the tier 2 level for who knows how long again.

[@GratefulDeadPhish]

As an OSU fan living in Michigan. I get called a sore loser when I state that shambles that are happening at michigan. Losing 65% of production 8 staff members is unheard of after winning a natty. The past was sweet but the future is sour. They're still drunk off the koolaid for sure

[@Man_of_Culture_7]

You sound pathetic

[@mwtroupe]

CC gets the hate because she's a white girl from Iowa,

[@rootedrotor525]

Wow, $13m?? Gonna be a lot of pressure on Day in that game this year - he'll be coaching for his job. Huge favorites - better win.

[@dougnelson8130]

May have been born on third, then bought home plate. :)

[@st-xi3ys]

Where was sherome moore born then?

[@rootedrotor525]

@@st-xi3ys Since he beat John Cooper 2.0 last year, he already crossed home plate. Long Live 3rd Base - hope he stays for another 10 years!

[@st-xi3ys]

@rootedrotor525 Didn't ryan day win his first game against harbaugh.........I think your confused

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

Fox needs to buy out the Mickey Mouse network so it can become a sports network again. Fire all that try to make it a political platform.

[@thefireshow1]

Trump 2024

[@robertjulieannanalett1691]

I would say give Howard one more year to get it together he's had so many one and two year players leave for the NBA in the last 3 years drafted in the first round to get an accurate read on him . This year could have been very good if admissions would have allowed two players that wanted to come here instead 1 player went to Illinois and one player went to Arizona that were difference makers if that would have happened Dickinson also would have stayed and that would have been a formidable team.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

I would say your opinion is ignorant and blinded by emotion. Howard should have been fired after last season, he wasnt, so he should have been forced to make changes to his coaching staff. He didnt. This was Howard final year to prove hes not a terrible coach with low character. He has failed on all counts.

[@iexist14]

13 million is has been ruled out as inaccurate. There was less than half of that spent in the transfer portal.

[@pesci19]

Check your facts 🤡

[@OHPeteB]

The 13 Million number came from Ryan Day when he was speaking to Columbus business leaders last June. That is where the number came from that Lane Kiffin spouted off. It does not mean they have spent 13M this offseason.

[@Nostalgic_07]

😂

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

OSU is tampering with players.

[@st-xi3ys]

Who did they tamper with

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

@@st-xi3ys Ohio State Coach Brian Hartline was tampering with Jeremiah Smith.

[@st-xi3ys]

@otisjohnjr.3023 you mean the the photo that no one could make out and could of been and old photo. And also the kid that was committed to ohio state for the last 3 years. Lol ok guy good try

[@thefireshow1]

Connor Stalions fool😜

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

@st-xi3ys no, it is confirmed tampering as being reported.

[@ronfrederick9983]

And biggest cheaters in all of college history. Stop your BS steve

[@blackdawg7324]

OSU did NOT spend $13 million. 🤣🤣🤣 They are going to roll UM and Iowa anyway.

[@jasonbrock4321]

4 in a row coming

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Day literally said OSU had to spend that much and they did.

[@pesci19]

Soft as toilet paper 🤡 See ya November 〽️🖕

[@st-xi3ys]

He stated that 2 years ago​@@calvinhobbes6118

[@jojowhite9296]

@@calvinhobbes6118 Big deal is they did..... why don't your cheap ass alumni come to the table with some greenbacks?

[@djtut_clt5236]

Ohio st is setting itself up for a colossal failure. Henderson, Burke, JTT, Sawyer, Hancock, Ransom would all be gone if the draft stock was higher. They are NOT culture guys like the kids that returned last season at Michigan. Egbuka is the only player aside from MHJ that had a chance of sneaking into rd 1. The influx of talent, loaded teams are nothing new for Day! Michigan beat an osuCKS team with 4 1st rd draft picks at WR in ‘21! By the way, so did Oregon & the buckeyes have to go to Eugene in September. The last time ttds lost in September it gave Michigan a blue print that was easy to follow. Michigan will have the best run game in the B1G this fall, yeah, I know who osu, psu & Oregon have returning. Returning production in the case of Michigan is a misleading stat because no team in the country rotated more players. QB is the only question mark & it’s gonna surprise some people. The defensive is gonna be flat out NASTY! If osuCKS doesn’t fix their OLine issues MICHIGAN will be facing Oregon for their fourth Big 10 crown in as many years!

[@st-xi3ys]

Yeah the run game will be the best with 5 new starters at offense line guy

[@thomaslitwinski3903]

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